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>>180750
Alright, although note that the Swordsage can do a lot of assassin stuff too. The Hand Of Death Maneuver can paralyze its target.
Assassin spells are great too though. I've played a few assassins. The spells are great if you use them right.
Idk, I just thought Swordsage fits the ninja martial artist gimmick you were gunning for. Maybe I shouldn't stick my chef spoon in other people's characters though. Didn't mean to intrude.
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>>180776
Is it your intention to keep deleting your comments over and over again?
Alright, although note that the Swordsage can do a lot of assassin stuff too. The Hand Of Death Maneuver can paralyze its target.
Assassin spells are great too though. I've played a few assassins. The spells are great if you use them right.
Idk, I just thought Swordsage fits the ninja martial artist gimmick you were gunning for. Maybe I shouldn't stick my chef spoon in other people's characters though. Didn't mean to intrude.
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>>180776
Is it your intention to keep deleting your comments over and over again?
>>180779
IDK where Brie is gonna go honestly, all the recent with Lacy gives me a whole lot of background and personal motivation to round/flesh out his character way more than ever before. I'm open to "innovative" ways to improve on, when the time comes
IDK where Brie is gonna go honestly, all the recent with Lacy gives me a whole lot of background and personal motivation to round/flesh out his character way more than ever before. I'm open to "innovative" ways to improve on, when the time comes
Lacy wants Brie's progeny, and Brie wants the security of power. Effectively they both want the same things, but focused on opposite objectives first.
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Her DR 2 is from her class. Her DR 5 is from her race (half-vampire)
Also, she's undead. Crits don't affect undead, oozes, plants, or elementals, because they don't have vital organs.
Her DR 2 is from her class. Her DR 5 is from her race (half-vampire)
Also, she's undead. Crits don't affect undead, oozes, plants, or elementals, because they don't have vital organs.
>>180814
No, your character doesn't get fucking Damage reduction 5 on top of damage reduction 2. I said no to that bullshit when you pulled it out of your ass during a fight a year ago. It's still no. Why the fuck are you not satisfied with the highest HP, the highest AC, regenerating health, and Damage reduction 2?!
No, your character doesn't get fucking Damage reduction 5 on top of damage reduction 2. I said no to that bullshit when you pulled it out of your ass during a fight a year ago. It's still no. Why the fuck are you not satisfied with the highest HP, the highest AC, regenerating health, and Damage reduction 2?!
>>180814
You know what, fuck it. We can change it so that no enemies even bother to attack Posey so that she's immune to everything. I'll just have her unable to make attacks when its necessary for game progression. I have no idea why playing that way is more fun to you, but sure, I'll let you play the way you want to play
You know what, fuck it. We can change it so that no enemies even bother to attack Posey so that she's immune to everything. I'll just have her unable to make attacks when its necessary for game progression. I have no idea why playing that way is more fun to you, but sure, I'll let you play the way you want to play
>>180819
>No damage reduction
It's your game, but also note that I spent two character levels and almost all of my starting gold to become like this. Posey is level 4, while the rest of the party is 5-6.
Posey has redundant damage reduction from three different sources (lich body, half-vampire, spellstitching); they don't stack, they just overlap. Do you want me to cut out all three of them?
>>180820
I can tell that I have upset you. Can we work it out somehow?
>I have no idea why playing that way is more fun to you
Well, to me it's like playing a vampiric monster, which is fun to me.
I don't want it to be unfun to you though.
>No damage reduction
It's your game, but also note that I spent two character levels and almost all of my starting gold to become like this. Posey is level 4, while the rest of the party is 5-6.
Posey has redundant damage reduction from three different sources (lich body, half-vampire, spellstitching); they don't stack, they just overlap. Do you want me to cut out all three of them?
>>180820
I can tell that I have upset you. Can we work it out somehow?
>I have no idea why playing that way is more fun to you
Well, to me it's like playing a vampiric monster, which is fun to me.
I don't want it to be unfun to you though.
>>180819
>I said no to that bullshit when you pulled it out of your ass during a fight a year ago. It's still no.
I must have forgotten this, and I apologize.
Posey would not have survived the Hydra fight if not for the DR5.
>I said no to that bullshit when you pulled it out of your ass during a fight a year ago. It's still no.
I must have forgotten this, and I apologize.
Posey would not have survived the Hydra fight if not for the DR5.
>>180749
>swordsage
EWWW no. No offense, but you've seen how long progression takes in this game, I'm not waiting around while "Improved unarmed strike" tries to vie as a decent technique. I'm good.
>swordsage
EWWW no. No offense, but you've seen how long progression takes in this game, I'm not waiting around while "Improved unarmed strike" tries to vie as a decent technique. I'm good.
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So GM, I like to present my ideas for my character and make it work with your world. Basically, this is the gist of what I want for this character and decide what works with our world and what needs to be changed.
I'll put this in a spoiler, since I know some people don't like to be spoiled, however, I don't mind if you do. It's only for your benefit that I put it in under a spoiler.
Backstory and motivation:
At Celestia's Sunny Sun orphanage/monastery or whatever I called the place, the Virgin had two fillies that she grow up with that were almost like sisters: Hope's Anchor and Pew Seat. They were all good friends, even though Virgin's and Hopes'es friendship was mostly through Pew Seat which was a filly so nice that you couldn't help but adore her. Hope's Anchor studied magic under the guidance of mother Justeney, the other unicorn at the place and a knowledgeable as well.
So since I don't know the lore, I'm just gonna give the events chronological order and you can tell me when and how they happened. But from what I get of the lore, here's my take:
1. Pew Seat gets abducted by changelings. (Did she die? I don't know. She could've if you wish. That's up for you to decide but both Virgin and Hope's assumes that she did.)
2. Hope's fights with what's essentially her surrogate mother (essentially all three's surrogates mother), Justeney. Hope's want to learn more dangerous and powerful spells but Justeney doesn't want to teach her.
3. Occupied Equestria happens and with the death/disappearance/or-whatever-happened of the Princesses, Hope's compltely disillusioned with the monastray and filled with hatred for the changelings.
4. She tries to convince Virgin of joining the Steel Hooves with her but Virgin can't forgive them for their part in Occupied Equestria_tm. Then she says something about how the Princesses were just mere mortals and they disagree.
5. In the end, Hope's leave and the last clue, maybe letter, ticket, or maybe she just said where she was going, leads to Baltimare.
6. For whatever reason, Virgin doesn't go after her immediately and is delayed perhaps with the war complications and stuff, or perhaps the wounds of what they said were too fresh. But now she's here in Baltimore, on this quest to find her and save her soul.
I would enjoy if you could fit her into the narrative in the world. I'd also liked it if she rivaled my character in power, like that she's a level 6 but instead of monk she's a powerful spell caster.
Past that and these things about her past, you have free reign to make her in whatever way you feel. Develop her skills set in anyway you want and so on. I trust you. ^^
So Virgin's goal is to find her but it shouldn't happened to fast. We gotta have some nice slow pacing for big reveal. ^^
But I thought it be cool if she somehow get embroiled in whatever the rest of the pc party is doing, or someone of these ponies. That way it could bridge the gap between the others and, well, me.
Just an idea. You do whatever you feel like. Just wanted to tell you what I would like. ^^
Also, these are Hope's colors:
A bit of a retcon but I think I prefer the right most one to be her body/fur color and the other two colors being the dual colors of her mane.
I'll put this in a spoiler, since I know some people don't like to be spoiled, however, I don't mind if you do. It's only for your benefit that I put it in under a spoiler.
Backstory and motivation:
At Celestia's Sunny Sun orphanage/monastery or whatever I called the place, the Virgin had two fillies that she grow up with that were almost like sisters: Hope's Anchor and Pew Seat. They were all good friends, even though Virgin's and Hopes'es friendship was mostly through Pew Seat which was a filly so nice that you couldn't help but adore her. Hope's Anchor studied magic under the guidance of mother Justeney, the other unicorn at the place and a knowledgeable as well.
So since I don't know the lore, I'm just gonna give the events chronological order and you can tell me when and how they happened. But from what I get of the lore, here's my take:
1. Pew Seat gets abducted by changelings. (Did she die? I don't know. She could've if you wish. That's up for you to decide but both Virgin and Hope's assumes that she did.)
2. Hope's fights with what's essentially her surrogate mother (essentially all three's surrogates mother), Justeney. Hope's want to learn more dangerous and powerful spells but Justeney doesn't want to teach her.
3. Occupied Equestria happens and with the death/disappearance/or-whatever-happened of the Princesses, Hope's compltely disillusioned with the monastray and filled with hatred for the changelings.
4. She tries to convince Virgin of joining the Steel Hooves with her but Virgin can't forgive them for their part in Occupied Equestria_tm. Then she says something about how the Princesses were just mere mortals and they disagree.
5. In the end, Hope's leave and the last clue, maybe letter, ticket, or maybe she just said where she was going, leads to Baltimare.
6. For whatever reason, Virgin doesn't go after her immediately and is delayed perhaps with the war complications and stuff, or perhaps the wounds of what they said were too fresh. But now she's here in Baltimore, on this quest to find her and save her soul.
I would enjoy if you could fit her into the narrative in the world. I'd also liked it if she rivaled my character in power, like that she's a level 6 but instead of monk she's a powerful spell caster.
Past that and these things about her past, you have free reign to make her in whatever way you feel. Develop her skills set in anyway you want and so on. I trust you. ^^
So Virgin's goal is to find her but it shouldn't happened to fast. We gotta have some nice slow pacing for big reveal. ^^
But I thought it be cool if she somehow get embroiled in whatever the rest of the pc party is doing, or someone of these ponies. That way it could bridge the gap between the others and, well, me.
Just an idea. You do whatever you feel like. Just wanted to tell you what I would like. ^^
Also, these are Hope's colors:
A bit of a retcon but I think I prefer the right most one to be her body/fur color and the other two colors being the dual colors of her mane.
>>180921
>But I thought it be cool if she somehow get embroiled
With "she", I meant Hope's Anchor not Virgin.
>But I thought it be cool if she somehow get embroiled
With "she", I meant Hope's Anchor not Virgin.
>>180923
Like I, Virgin is looking for Hope's and because she's with the Party I meet the party, is the idea.
Like I, Virgin is looking for Hope's and because she's with the Party I meet the party, is the idea.
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I want to emphasize that there was absolutely no attempt to figure out what the tiara was, where it came from, what culture made it, what religion it belongs to, what it does, if it's intelligent, or anything about the tiara before placing it on. There was no knowledge: religion roll, no Arcana roll, no Appraise roll, no attempt to look closely at it to see if there was any written text on it, no attempt to identify the creature depicted on it, no anything. Just "lol a cursed item let me activate it!"
There was a disarm roll to remove it from Posey's hoof that was just ignored by Posey's player.
I would like it to be known that the tiara absolutely could have been taken home by Posey, studied, and yes, ultimately be safely made to wear and even to be something like a phylactery. All that had to happen was for her to not immediately put on the very obviously cursed tiara.
There was a disarm roll to remove it from Posey's hoof that was just ignored by Posey's player.
I would like it to be known that the tiara absolutely could have been taken home by Posey, studied, and yes, ultimately be safely made to wear and even to be something like a phylactery. All that had to happen was for her to not immediately put on the very obviously cursed tiara.
>>180921
Oh I can definitely work with that.
Any personality aspects of Hope's Anchor I should know about?
Oh I can definitely work with that.
Any personality aspects of Hope's Anchor I should know about?
>>180926
That disarm roll was 19, from the yellow griffin, was targeted at Posey, and was before she put it on. It was accompanied by words in plain english that the crown was cursed and don't put it on. The disarm roll and the warning were both blatantly ignored by Posey's player, with no counter roll
That disarm roll was 19, from the yellow griffin, was targeted at Posey, and was before she put it on. It was accompanied by words in plain english that the crown was cursed and don't put it on. The disarm roll and the warning were both blatantly ignored by Posey's player, with no counter roll
>>180927
Thank you, that makes me really happy.^^
I look forward to playing again. Feel no pressure or responsibility for that though. ;^P
>Any personality aspects of Hope's Anchor I should know about?
Not that I can think of right now. What I wrote is basically, everything about her. I guess, her character so far boils down to an atheist spell caster with a hatred for changelings probably also some kind of ptsd from having lost her dear friend, Pew Seat, and mixed feelings for mother Justeney. The reason she carries the can of soda in her hooves in the flashback btw, is because she's sore from practicing her magic too much. I imagine the powerful magics she desired to learn from Justeney was like evocation spells but I don't necessarily want to her limited to that, I just think they fit the theme of "powerful spells".
I think I want to you to fill in the blanks for her character. If I come up with something cool maybe I'll add that in a flashback. However, I feel like I'd honestly like the idea of giving you this character. So, I'd run by you if I have a cool idea for this character and you can implement it if you like but ultimately you get the final say on the matter. That way it be an interesting surprise to see what happens.
Yeah, I like this idea. So I hereby declare that: Hope's Anchor is yours! ^^
Thank you, that makes me really happy.^^
I look forward to playing again. Feel no pressure or responsibility for that though. ;^P
>Any personality aspects of Hope's Anchor I should know about?
Not that I can think of right now. What I wrote is basically, everything about her. I guess, her character so far boils down to an atheist spell caster with a hatred for changelings probably also some kind of ptsd from having lost her dear friend, Pew Seat, and mixed feelings for mother Justeney. The reason she carries the can of soda in her hooves in the flashback btw, is because she's sore from practicing her magic too much. I imagine the powerful magics she desired to learn from Justeney was like evocation spells but I don't necessarily want to her limited to that, I just think they fit the theme of "powerful spells".
I think I want to you to fill in the blanks for her character. If I come up with something cool maybe I'll add that in a flashback. However, I feel like I'd honestly like the idea of giving you this character. So, I'd run by you if I have a cool idea for this character and you can implement it if you like but ultimately you get the final say on the matter. That way it be an interesting surprise to see what happens.
Yeah, I like this idea. So I hereby declare that: Hope's Anchor is yours! ^^
>>180929
Yes! Now I know. I'll just tell you whenever Virgin has one of her flashback episodes with the character and you can just play her in those flashbacks. That's nice. Because I still wanted to have flashbacks regarding Virgin's time at the orphanage and it then makes sense to have scenes with the two of them. But then you can simply take over the wheel for her character in those episodes. Nice.
Yes! Now I know. I'll just tell you whenever Virgin has one of her flashback episodes with the character and you can just play her in those flashbacks. That's nice. Because I still wanted to have flashbacks regarding Virgin's time at the orphanage and it then makes sense to have scenes with the two of them. But then you can simply take over the wheel for her character in those episodes. Nice.
>>180921
Curses, this is what I was gonna do. Nicely done.
The following are my OOC-Meta intentions for Brie in THIS mission/segment:
1. Transition (cuz reasons) from Neutral Evil to Chaotic Neutral
2. Get his Cutie Mark (yes, he's a grown-ass stallion who still doesn't have his CM)
3. MAKE IT BACK ALIVE (he's having moments in his head where he's having to reevaluate and challenge many/most presuppositions, it's all very canonical)
He is evil, but he's coming to a point of realizing that there's a fine line between necessary evil (mafia shit that helps protect the community, and enforces a standard of decorum that prevents socially abusive lawlessness) and unnecessary evil (this cursed crown incident really helped).
He's never been one to shy away from getting his hooves dirty (nor ever will), and has always always asserted/appealed to a sense of decorum even when being lawless. But his idea of "evil" is mundane, corruption, and nefarious conspiracies. Spoopy evil magic is well beyond his wheelhouse.
I'm not saying he's turning over a new leaf right NOW, but it's brewing. Where once he was looking at the world as needing someone to balance 'things', NOW he is starting to grasp what the world needs to be balanced 'AGAINST'.
Curses, this is what I was gonna do. Nicely done.
The following are my OOC-Meta intentions for Brie in THIS mission/segment:
1. Transition (cuz reasons) from Neutral Evil to Chaotic Neutral
2. Get his Cutie Mark (yes, he's a grown-ass stallion who still doesn't have his CM)
3. MAKE IT BACK ALIVE (he's having moments in his head where he's having to reevaluate and challenge many/most presuppositions, it's all very canonical)
He is evil, but he's coming to a point of realizing that there's a fine line between necessary evil (mafia shit that helps protect the community, and enforces a standard of decorum that prevents socially abusive lawlessness) and unnecessary evil (this cursed crown incident really helped).
He's never been one to shy away from getting his hooves dirty (nor ever will), and has always always asserted/appealed to a sense of decorum even when being lawless. But his idea of "evil" is mundane, corruption, and nefarious conspiracies. Spoopy evil magic is well beyond his wheelhouse.
I'm not saying he's turning over a new leaf right NOW, but it's brewing. Where once he was looking at the world as needing someone to balance 'things', NOW he is starting to grasp what the world needs to be balanced 'AGAINST'.
And as a piece of advice for Posey (appreciating if it isn't desired, but I'm being quite forthright and sincere in this):
Consider a calculatingly evil character. For example, I'm going with Arkhan the Cruel in Critical Role campaign 1. I'll spare most of the details.
Arkhan - an openly evil oathbreaker paladin devoted to Tiamat - never hid the fact that he was evil. He was openly and proudly and honorably evil. And he fought the good fight bla bla bla. But he wanted the hand of Vecna, so he hatched a very long and convoluted plan to orchestrate the surreptitious gaffling of the hand.
His 'betrayal' of the party was so clean and surgical, that barely had the words "This was just business" escaped his lips, he was gone and escaped.
Rosey is well established to want things. But she is also conniving and calculating. Please, let her not be so quick to try to "ascend" right this instance, perhaps have her be gathering the means to and do so behind closed doors when no one is watching (and we're not still in combat).
Consider a calculatingly evil character. For example, I'm going with Arkhan the Cruel in Critical Role campaign 1. I'll spare most of the details.
Arkhan - an openly evil oathbreaker paladin devoted to Tiamat - never hid the fact that he was evil. He was openly and proudly and honorably evil. And he fought the good fight bla bla bla. But he wanted the hand of Vecna, so he hatched a very long and convoluted plan to orchestrate the surreptitious gaffling of the hand.
His 'betrayal' of the party was so clean and surgical, that barely had the words "This was just business" escaped his lips, he was gone and escaped.
Rosey is well established to want things. But she is also conniving and calculating. Please, let her not be so quick to try to "ascend" right this instance, perhaps have her be gathering the means to and do so behind closed doors when no one is watching (and we're not still in combat).
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It was a fair tactic, tbh. Most of us have good Fortitude saves or resistance/immunity to the spell. Brie, sadly, got screwed, but we still won in the end.
A stunned character drops whatever its holding, and can't take any actions. Had the enemies not made splendid rolls, it could have ended the fight.
Next time just give us a warning
It was a fair tactic, tbh. Most of us have good Fortitude saves or resistance/immunity to the spell. Brie, sadly, got screwed, but we still won in the end.
A stunned character drops whatever its holding, and can't take any actions. Had the enemies not made splendid rolls, it could have ended the fight.
Next time just give us a warning
>>180926
>There was no knowledge: religion roll, no Arcana roll, no Appraise roll, no attempt to look closely at it to see if there was any written text on it, no attempt to identify the creature depicted on it
Yeah, I probably should have done that...
>There was a disarm roll to remove it from Posey's hoof that was just ignored by Posey's player.
I didn't ignore it though. Silver succeeded in knocking it off.
>I would like it to be known that the tiara absolutely could have been taken home by Posey, studied, and yes, ultimately be safely made to wear and even to be something like a phylactery. All that had to happen was for her to not immediately put on the very obviously cursed tiara.
Sorry...
>There was no knowledge: religion roll, no Arcana roll, no Appraise roll, no attempt to look closely at it to see if there was any written text on it, no attempt to identify the creature depicted on it
Yeah, I probably should have done that...
>There was a disarm roll to remove it from Posey's hoof that was just ignored by Posey's player.
I didn't ignore it though. Silver succeeded in knocking it off.
>I would like it to be known that the tiara absolutely could have been taken home by Posey, studied, and yes, ultimately be safely made to wear and even to be something like a phylactery. All that had to happen was for her to not immediately put on the very obviously cursed tiara.
Sorry...
>>180941
It was, and on a very real note it was an excellent opportunity for me to engage in strategies I'm developing to try and control my less socially-acceptable reactions to adverse situations. I don't regret it having happened at all, though it took a WHOLE lot of effort to not lose my shit.
It was, and on a very real note it was an excellent opportunity for me to engage in strategies I'm developing to try and control my less socially-acceptable reactions to adverse situations. I don't regret it having happened at all, though it took a WHOLE lot of effort to not lose my shit.
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I would like to apologize to everyone for my actions last night. I was tired and getting impatient to try it after waiting all week, but I shouldn't have done that. Even in-character, Posey would know better than to try on something before taking a free action to examine it first, because she's a professional.
I just really wanted that crown, and I have fancy for cursed items, and I thought I had made my intentions to put it on clear at first. It was wrong of me to just do that without ample warning.
I didn't see the disarm checks, I thought those were just attack rolls.
I just really wanted that crown, and I have fancy for cursed items, and I thought I had made my intentions to put it on clear at first. It was wrong of me to just do that without ample warning.
I didn't see the disarm checks, I thought those were just attack rolls.
>>180946
Imo, as long as a lesson has been learned - and I say this being in the process of teaching myself alot of lessons - then the only thing you have to apologize for IMO is not posting the anonfilly/twilight version of that image
Imo, as long as a lesson has been learned - and I say this being in the process of teaching myself alot of lessons - then the only thing you have to apologize for IMO is not posting the anonfilly/twilight version of that image
Not to belabor the point, but "realizing an apology is appropriate" is not the lesson. I can't really say what the lesson is, but if it were me it would involve taking stock of "what caused me to behave in the way I did, and how do I combat those impulses and proclivities going forward?"
>>180428
>>180465
>I rly hope Vul doesnt object to my appropriation of her likeness, especially in a criminal context
You can just ask him. He's not hard to reach, just send him a message on Ponerpics. Why not drag him into the game and have him play as Lucky? She's not an adventurer (yet) so it wouldn't be a demanding role for him. It would be awesome to have him, but he's quite busy as an artist.
I get your conniptions about your characters being romantical with other players' PCs, but I'm not entirely keen on having one's own two PCs being in a literal or metaphorical circlejerk. I mean, it eliminates any mystery in how the other character will respond to indications, words, or actions, and at that point why not just write a self-contained FiM story? When playing Amber, the most fun interactions with her coltfriend Mustard Trim have not so much been the raunchy moments as much as the attempts to understand each other, which often fail. If her relationship were entirely platonic (which it could have ended up being) it would still be worthwhile because it is interesting in its own right. Silver and Kira are under the same player, and they are in the same quest, but they won't necessarily be maintaining close proximity after this quest. It sounds like Brie and Lacy Row will be, so a good part of their respective stories will be just monologuing with no outside input. I like the concept of Lacy Row and if this is the only way you will have her then go for it, but I prefer interplayer interaction. That doesn't mean either character has to go around kissing other PCs, but there's room to explore.
>>180449
So she's basically a dwarf.
Also, protecc this mare, not just because she's especially cute (she is), but because without her virginity she would need a name change, and that is a bureaucratic headache.
>>180483
>I see. I thought you were okay with Posey having minions though, and ponies who follow her cause would logically be evil.
You can have evil without being eviller than the average Western politician or Latin American cartel leader. In fact, fiction has no shortage of evil minions who aren't really that evil, or are loveable goofballs. Why not go for something like that? Gloomy is likeable as a character who was raised in a purely evil setting but who is not deliberately and maliciously evil. He's more of a character from The Addams Family.
>I thought of making a charisma character with the personality of a sleezy lawyer, like Saul from breaking bad. The symbol of the Black horse of Famine is a set of merchant scales, so that made me think of a lawyer-like character.
That sounds good
>Oh look, Posey's childhood.
>Business as usual in Magehold.
You can see how that throws a wrench into the DM's atmospheric worldbuilding. If anything grimdark in the setting gets repeatedly outdone by a PC hailing from the grimdarkest corner of the world, it loses its impact. Mind you, it's a setting based on Friendship is Magic, which is supposed to be bubbly and happy and the existence at all of your "business at usual" implies something has gone horribly wrong.
Your ideas for how the game should go are both really cool, but they are at a loggerheads. At one point I wanted to make a serial killer evil character, but I'm glad I didn't because it would have led to problems like this. I don't want to discourage you, but you should expect some occasional pushback from the GM until it's somehow resolved.
>>180514
>>180516
>Keep OOC posts here.
GM hasn't said that we need to.
>It's partly for Tenebrous's sake that the ooc thread even exists, so that he doesn't have to sift through off-topic spam to backread what happened in the thread.
Okay I respect that, and I hope he comes back to play.
>>180530
As a fellow enjoyer of alcohol, I recommend moderating your intake. This is coming from a happy sort of drunk.
>IF there is gameplay AND I am unresponsive, GM is authorized (as is the nature of RPs) to commandeer Brie in a limited capacity especially as pertains to skill checks, and Brie is the sort who you call out something like "Hey creepy, where the fuck you at?" and he will swoop, appear, or whatever.
>I will go ahead and stipulate now that unless expressly doing something, Brie can be said to be actively listening/looking (alternating between listen checks +11 and spot checks +8) around for any changes or points of interest with hostiles/threats being the primary sought. He might get a penalty because of elevation, but he's still trying to see "bad things" before anyone else does, and provide the best advantage before engaging himself (an 80' drop can occur in a single turn, ostensibly with charge/momentum bonuses)
Thank you!
>>180746
>5 rogue, 1 monk
I know experience isn't being taken too seriously in this game, but that's going to hit your experience gain. Also, won't Brie's light armor affect his monk abilities (I ask, as Cavaliere used stunning fist while wearing a leather jacket classed as light armor)?
>>180785
>Lacy wants Brie's progeny
Wouldn't that conflict with her job running a strip club? Brie's not likely to be a particularly good, or faithful father either.
>I can tell that I have upset you. Can we work it out somehow?
GM Pone is upset because his world is grounded as a mix of FiM and a modern setting. There are some exceptional ponies capable of great feats, but fearful monsters are in decline and mass-produced weapons are easily capable of killing even hardened heroes. A shootout with even average gangsters is meant to be thrilling, and the heroes should have to avoid getting shot through tactics and stealth. Nigh-unkillable monsters are meant to be extremely rare and very difficult to deal with. I wasn't there when the party fought undead creatures in the catacombs but having read through it, it looked to be slog taking multiple trips and several close calls. The last undead were finished off with smarts rather than strength. Posey being the nigh-unkillable monster breaks all that.
>>180465
>I rly hope Vul doesnt object to my appropriation of her likeness, especially in a criminal context
You can just ask him. He's not hard to reach, just send him a message on Ponerpics. Why not drag him into the game and have him play as Lucky? She's not an adventurer (yet) so it wouldn't be a demanding role for him. It would be awesome to have him, but he's quite busy as an artist.
I get your conniptions about your characters being romantical with other players' PCs, but I'm not entirely keen on having one's own two PCs being in a literal or metaphorical circlejerk. I mean, it eliminates any mystery in how the other character will respond to indications, words, or actions, and at that point why not just write a self-contained FiM story? When playing Amber, the most fun interactions with her coltfriend Mustard Trim have not so much been the raunchy moments as much as the attempts to understand each other, which often fail. If her relationship were entirely platonic (which it could have ended up being) it would still be worthwhile because it is interesting in its own right. Silver and Kira are under the same player, and they are in the same quest, but they won't necessarily be maintaining close proximity after this quest. It sounds like Brie and Lacy Row will be, so a good part of their respective stories will be just monologuing with no outside input. I like the concept of Lacy Row and if this is the only way you will have her then go for it, but I prefer interplayer interaction. That doesn't mean either character has to go around kissing other PCs, but there's room to explore.
>>180449
So she's basically a dwarf.
Also, protecc this mare, not just because she's especially cute (she is), but because without her virginity she would need a name change, and that is a bureaucratic headache.
>>180483
>I see. I thought you were okay with Posey having minions though, and ponies who follow her cause would logically be evil.
You can have evil without being eviller than the average Western politician or Latin American cartel leader. In fact, fiction has no shortage of evil minions who aren't really that evil, or are loveable goofballs. Why not go for something like that? Gloomy is likeable as a character who was raised in a purely evil setting but who is not deliberately and maliciously evil. He's more of a character from The Addams Family.
>I thought of making a charisma character with the personality of a sleezy lawyer, like Saul from breaking bad. The symbol of the Black horse of Famine is a set of merchant scales, so that made me think of a lawyer-like character.
That sounds good
>Oh look, Posey's childhood.
>Business as usual in Magehold.
You can see how that throws a wrench into the DM's atmospheric worldbuilding. If anything grimdark in the setting gets repeatedly outdone by a PC hailing from the grimdarkest corner of the world, it loses its impact. Mind you, it's a setting based on Friendship is Magic, which is supposed to be bubbly and happy and the existence at all of your "business at usual" implies something has gone horribly wrong.
Your ideas for how the game should go are both really cool, but they are at a loggerheads. At one point I wanted to make a serial killer evil character, but I'm glad I didn't because it would have led to problems like this. I don't want to discourage you, but you should expect some occasional pushback from the GM until it's somehow resolved.
>>180514
>>180516
>Keep OOC posts here.
GM hasn't said that we need to.
>It's partly for Tenebrous's sake that the ooc thread even exists, so that he doesn't have to sift through off-topic spam to backread what happened in the thread.
Okay I respect that, and I hope he comes back to play.
>>180530
As a fellow enjoyer of alcohol, I recommend moderating your intake. This is coming from a happy sort of drunk.
>IF there is gameplay AND I am unresponsive, GM is authorized (as is the nature of RPs) to commandeer Brie in a limited capacity especially as pertains to skill checks, and Brie is the sort who you call out something like "Hey creepy, where the fuck you at?" and he will swoop, appear, or whatever.
>I will go ahead and stipulate now that unless expressly doing something, Brie can be said to be actively listening/looking (alternating between listen checks +11 and spot checks +8) around for any changes or points of interest with hostiles/threats being the primary sought. He might get a penalty because of elevation, but he's still trying to see "bad things" before anyone else does, and provide the best advantage before engaging himself (an 80' drop can occur in a single turn, ostensibly with charge/momentum bonuses)
Thank you!
>>180746
>5 rogue, 1 monk
I know experience isn't being taken too seriously in this game, but that's going to hit your experience gain. Also, won't Brie's light armor affect his monk abilities (I ask, as Cavaliere used stunning fist while wearing a leather jacket classed as light armor)?
>>180785
>Lacy wants Brie's progeny
Wouldn't that conflict with her job running a strip club? Brie's not likely to be a particularly good, or faithful father either.
>I can tell that I have upset you. Can we work it out somehow?
GM Pone is upset because his world is grounded as a mix of FiM and a modern setting. There are some exceptional ponies capable of great feats, but fearful monsters are in decline and mass-produced weapons are easily capable of killing even hardened heroes. A shootout with even average gangsters is meant to be thrilling, and the heroes should have to avoid getting shot through tactics and stealth. Nigh-unkillable monsters are meant to be extremely rare and very difficult to deal with. I wasn't there when the party fought undead creatures in the catacombs but having read through it, it looked to be slog taking multiple trips and several close calls. The last undead were finished off with smarts rather than strength. Posey being the nigh-unkillable monster breaks all that.
>>180921
What are the steel hooves? I like her backstory!
>color pattern
The way I envision it, it doesn't look good. Also, what's her eye color? I recommend using a pony creator tool like this one: https://www.numuki.com/game/mlp-pony-creator/
>>180933
>Transition (cuz reasons) from Neutral Evil to Chaotic Neutral
Doesn't the rulebook say a character can move only adjacently in alignment? Wouldn't he have to become Chaotic Evil or True Neutral first?
>Get his Cutie Mark (yes, he's a grown-ass stallion who still doesn't have his CM)
Blank-Flank!
>I'm not saying he's turning over a new leaf right NOW, but it's brewing. Where once he was looking at the world as needing someone to balance 'things', NOW he is starting to grasp what the world needs to be balanced 'AGAINST'.
Interesting!
>>180946
We all make hasty decisions sometimes when tired, it's alright. Only thing lost is time and some post numbers.
What are the steel hooves? I like her backstory!
>color pattern
The way I envision it, it doesn't look good. Also, what's her eye color? I recommend using a pony creator tool like this one: https://www.numuki.com/game/mlp-pony-creator/
>>180933
>Transition (cuz reasons) from Neutral Evil to Chaotic Neutral
Doesn't the rulebook say a character can move only adjacently in alignment? Wouldn't he have to become Chaotic Evil or True Neutral first?
>Get his Cutie Mark (yes, he's a grown-ass stallion who still doesn't have his CM)
Blank-Flank!
>I'm not saying he's turning over a new leaf right NOW, but it's brewing. Where once he was looking at the world as needing someone to balance 'things', NOW he is starting to grasp what the world needs to be balanced 'AGAINST'.
Interesting!
>>180946
We all make hasty decisions sometimes when tired, it's alright. Only thing lost is time and some post numbers.
>>180952
>the issue of Lacy and Brie
I can see your concerns, and outside of a particularly justifying context, Lacy is not intended to be a combat-oriented PC. If anything, Lacy's business will be her singular location that Brie might sometimes be found at. I'm not going to RP any dialogue between them that other PCs aren't present for, and while they are expressly romantic, that will all occurr "off camera" outside some cheeky one-liners.
As far as inviting Vul, I'll consider it. In general I am amazed at his work (I had been unknowingly familiar with him previously) but I also admit that I can suffice with "Almost-Lucky" (appearance wise) who I can customize along specific lines.
In alot of ways, Lacey justifies alot of character development I had always wanted for Brie, as well as giving all manner of context for his backstory and how he came to be the bat that he is. It's the kind of thing that I really hope to depict in game, but not - as you describe - a one-poster circle-jerk.
The intended dynamic between the two is that she is the privileged daughter of a traditional yakuza-style criminal family who cuz of many reasons decided that Brie belongs to her, in spite of overt refusal from her family. Lots of drama and possible story-arcs there.
To Brie, she is a complete enigma, who is JUST bent in JUST the right ways that she's irresistable. Business partners at times, fierce compeditors at others, business always comes first, but they both can't stop playing the game. Through her lineage and upbringing, she has access to devastating traditional techniques, but physically (aside from lewd) there's nothing impressive about her, seemingly able to snap in a stiff breeze, and yet cunning and deadly and brilliant and,... she is gonna be a driving force for his increased participation back in and around Baltimare.
>the issue of Lacy and Brie
I can see your concerns, and outside of a particularly justifying context, Lacy is not intended to be a combat-oriented PC. If anything, Lacy's business will be her singular location that Brie might sometimes be found at. I'm not going to RP any dialogue between them that other PCs aren't present for, and while they are expressly romantic, that will all occurr "off camera" outside some cheeky one-liners.
As far as inviting Vul, I'll consider it. In general I am amazed at his work (I had been unknowingly familiar with him previously) but I also admit that I can suffice with "Almost-Lucky" (appearance wise) who I can customize along specific lines.
In alot of ways, Lacey justifies alot of character development I had always wanted for Brie, as well as giving all manner of context for his backstory and how he came to be the bat that he is. It's the kind of thing that I really hope to depict in game, but not - as you describe - a one-poster circle-jerk.
The intended dynamic between the two is that she is the privileged daughter of a traditional yakuza-style criminal family who cuz of many reasons decided that Brie belongs to her, in spite of overt refusal from her family. Lots of drama and possible story-arcs there.
To Brie, she is a complete enigma, who is JUST bent in JUST the right ways that she's irresistable. Business partners at times, fierce compeditors at others, business always comes first, but they both can't stop playing the game. Through her lineage and upbringing, she has access to devastating traditional techniques, but physically (aside from lewd) there's nothing impressive about her, seemingly able to snap in a stiff breeze, and yet cunning and deadly and brilliant and,... she is gonna be a driving force for his increased participation back in and around Baltimare.
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>>180954
That is a great explanation and you've won me over on this idea.
>As far as inviting Vul, I'll consider it.
Please do! He's even drawn Amber before
>pic related
That is a great explanation and you've won me over on this idea.
>As far as inviting Vul, I'll consider it.
Please do! He's even drawn Amber before
>pic related
>>180933
>Curses, this is what I was gonna do. Nicely done.
^^ Really?
>>180934
Thank you. It warms the heart.
>>180952
>protecc this mare, not just because she's especially cute (she is)
^^
>>180953
>What are the steel hooves?
I'm probably just wrong but I thought that was the name of the nationalistic pony military faction in Baltimare, but it was forever ago I knew.
>I like her backstory!
Aww, thank you.
>The way I envision it, it doesn't look good.
> I recommend using a pony creator tool like this one:
I'll check it out but I do think that the color scheme look nice when I envision it though. ^^
>Curses, this is what I was gonna do. Nicely done.
^^ Really?
>>180934
Thank you. It warms the heart.
>>180952
>protecc this mare, not just because she's especially cute (she is)
^^
>>180953
>What are the steel hooves?
I'm probably just wrong but I thought that was the name of the nationalistic pony military faction in Baltimare, but it was forever ago I knew.
>I like her backstory!
Aww, thank you.
>The way I envision it, it doesn't look good.
> I recommend using a pony creator tool like this one:
I'll check it out but I do think that the color scheme look nice when I envision it though. ^^
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>>180957
>I'm probably just wrong but I thought that was the name of the nationalistic pony military faction in Baltimare, but it was forever ago I knew.
That's the Blackhooves, and they rule from New Baltimare (which is actually an ocean away). Their leader is Duke Haygel, but he and his advisors aren't directly relevant to the plot.
>I'll check it out but I do think that the color scheme look nice when I envision it though. ^^
Pony Creator is great because when I used it way back when, I had an accessible way of depicting and posing Amber. It doesn't come close to hand-drawn art, but it's a good baseline to get a feel for the appearance of a character.
>I'm probably just wrong but I thought that was the name of the nationalistic pony military faction in Baltimare, but it was forever ago I knew.
That's the Blackhooves, and they rule from New Baltimare (which is actually an ocean away). Their leader is Duke Haygel, but he and his advisors aren't directly relevant to the plot.
>I'll check it out but I do think that the color scheme look nice when I envision it though. ^^
Pony Creator is great because when I used it way back when, I had an accessible way of depicting and posing Amber. It doesn't come close to hand-drawn art, but it's a good baseline to get a feel for the appearance of a character.
>>180957
>Really?
Yeah. I have a habit of trying to keep my characters enigmatic with all kinds of lore and references (that no one ever gets because I never explain any of it), but I woke up deciding to give a better outline so that when I am depicting Brie, players can understand the type of "enigmatic" character that the other players can only guess at and react to.
While it can be fun for all to surprise players with revelations about characters, without the proper background info it falls flat and is boring/uninteresting.
I mean c'mon, I want people to know why I think what he is doing (and why) is so cool. :3
>Really?
Yeah. I have a habit of trying to keep my characters enigmatic with all kinds of lore and references (that no one ever gets because I never explain any of it), but I woke up deciding to give a better outline so that when I am depicting Brie, players can understand the type of "enigmatic" character that the other players can only guess at and react to.
While it can be fun for all to surprise players with revelations about characters, without the proper background info it falls flat and is boring/uninteresting.
I mean c'mon, I want people to know why I think what he is doing (and why) is so cool. :3
>>180952
Also, the strip club is a money-laundering front for her prostitution, smuggling, and information brokerage, that also serves as an embassy of sorts for her family's business ventures in the area.
It's not so much that she wants Brie's progeny, it's that she wants to be able to HAVE Brie's progeny and NOT have them be taken/killed by the family, which is a difficult development to manage so far.
Also, the strip club is a money-laundering front for her prostitution, smuggling, and information brokerage, that also serves as an embassy of sorts for her family's business ventures in the area.
It's not so much that she wants Brie's progeny, it's that she wants to be able to HAVE Brie's progeny and NOT have them be taken/killed by the family, which is a difficult development to manage so far.
>>180958
I might make a detailed description of her, like I intended to do for Virgin.
>It doesn't come close to hand-drawn art, but it's a good baseline to get a feel for the appearance of a character.
Yeah, that makes sense.
>That's the Blackhooves, and they rule from New Baltimare (which is actually an ocean away).
Thank you. Now, I know.
Virgin is in New Baltimare, I realize now, or rather remember, I just didn't remember that there existed two Baltimares in this world.
I might make a detailed description of her, like I intended to do for Virgin.
>It doesn't come close to hand-drawn art, but it's a good baseline to get a feel for the appearance of a character.
Yeah, that makes sense.
>That's the Blackhooves, and they rule from New Baltimare (which is actually an ocean away).
Thank you. Now, I know.
Virgin is in New Baltimare, I realize now, or rather remember, I just didn't remember that there existed two Baltimares in this world.
>>180962
Question for the DM: Are strip clubs even legal in Baltimare? Although there is a prolific underworld, gambling is explicitly illegal and even conventional nightclubs (like the Club Maurice) are harassed by the law at times. Such places might still exist in secret though.
>It's not so much that she wants Brie's progeny, it's that she wants to be able to HAVE Brie's progeny and NOT have them be taken/killed by the family, which is a difficult development to manage so far.
Fair. Is her family in conflict with the Waterfront Gang? Iron seems to have stopped playing but the gang is still around.
>>180963
She is in New Baltimare? New Baltimare is the former Equestrian colony in Griffonia and is the seat of the Blackhooves's power. Regular (old) Baltimare is a city in eastern Equestria and is under occupation. All active PCs are based in (old) Baltimare.
Question for the DM: Are strip clubs even legal in Baltimare? Although there is a prolific underworld, gambling is explicitly illegal and even conventional nightclubs (like the Club Maurice) are harassed by the law at times. Such places might still exist in secret though.
>It's not so much that she wants Brie's progeny, it's that she wants to be able to HAVE Brie's progeny and NOT have them be taken/killed by the family, which is a difficult development to manage so far.
Fair. Is her family in conflict with the Waterfront Gang? Iron seems to have stopped playing but the gang is still around.
>>180963
She is in New Baltimare? New Baltimare is the former Equestrian colony in Griffonia and is the seat of the Blackhooves's power. Regular (old) Baltimare is a city in eastern Equestria and is under occupation. All active PCs are based in (old) Baltimare.
>>180964
I expressly asked. Strip clubs yes, but not prostitution or gambling (yes, theres also gambling at her place; the only major vice she DOESNT serve is drugs).
Her family isn't well fleshed out yet, and its chock full of Shounen stereotypes, but as far as official alliances/adversaries,... maybe?
I expressly asked. Strip clubs yes, but not prostitution or gambling (yes, theres also gambling at her place; the only major vice she DOESNT serve is drugs).
Her family isn't well fleshed out yet, and its chock full of Shounen stereotypes, but as far as official alliances/adversaries,... maybe?
>>180965
>Strip clubs yes
Makes sense, given that there are no mores against nudity for ponies so this would be a legal loophole. Being aroused in public probably, but otherwise not. Will you be hosting gambling sessions in-game? GM Pone doesn't want to do it.
It seems there will be a lot more politicking to look out for. That's always been a strong point of this setting so the inter-gang conflicts will be fun.
>Strip clubs yes
Makes sense, given that there are no mores against nudity for ponies so this would be a legal loophole. Being aroused in public probably, but otherwise not. Will you be hosting gambling sessions in-game? GM Pone doesn't want to do it.
It seems there will be a lot more politicking to look out for. That's always been a strong point of this setting so the inter-gang conflicts will be fun.
>>180967
Well to be clear, the door would be wide open for inter-gang politics if GM wanted to introduce those elements. Additionally, he has an entire framework to play with to do with the multi-family dynamics back in Neighpon that could spill over into Baltimare, that I would have no issue spearheading the creation of, assisting in, or being entirely ignorant of. It's a whole bunch of different categories that contextually just got added to his rolodex of future content, if desired to be explored.
>gambling sessions
I will have to think about it. Initially I want to say hard "no", but I suspect that something could be arranged. It would be far more story and RP related, and far less to do with basic dice rolls than one might expect, but that sounds like something that could be fun that Lacey would naturally be the Maitre' D for.
Well to be clear, the door would be wide open for inter-gang politics if GM wanted to introduce those elements. Additionally, he has an entire framework to play with to do with the multi-family dynamics back in Neighpon that could spill over into Baltimare, that I would have no issue spearheading the creation of, assisting in, or being entirely ignorant of. It's a whole bunch of different categories that contextually just got added to his rolodex of future content, if desired to be explored.
>gambling sessions
I will have to think about it. Initially I want to say hard "no", but I suspect that something could be arranged. It would be far more story and RP related, and far less to do with basic dice rolls than one might expect, but that sounds like something that could be fun that Lacey would naturally be the Maitre' D for.
Oh curses, it's happening again.
It suddenly occurs to me how ham-fisted it is to just retcon in a strip club, etc. While permissible in certain game styles, it would be far better to have a grand opening,....
It suddenly occurs to me how ham-fisted it is to just retcon in a strip club, etc. While permissible in certain game styles, it would be far better to have a grand opening,....
>>180968
>Neighpon
You keep bringing that up. I'm not sure if that country is in EaW, and if it is based off Japan it would be populated by kirins (who are a stand-in for Asians). How would a batpony be in a Neighponese crime family, in Baltimare? There's room for backstory there.
>I will have to think about it.
I ask because Cavaliere, although lawful good, is an avid gambler, and gambling is a good way to gather information from disreputable sorts. Plus, it's fun, and although I cannot speak for Silver's player he might enjoy it too.
>it would be far better to have a grand opening
I like that idea!
>Neighpon
You keep bringing that up. I'm not sure if that country is in EaW, and if it is based off Japan it would be populated by kirins (who are a stand-in for Asians). How would a batpony be in a Neighponese crime family, in Baltimare? There's room for backstory there.
>I will have to think about it.
I ask because Cavaliere, although lawful good, is an avid gambler, and gambling is a good way to gather information from disreputable sorts. Plus, it's fun, and although I cannot speak for Silver's player he might enjoy it too.
>it would be far better to have a grand opening
I like that idea!
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