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>>181786
See >>181787
>>181765
>>181764
That’s a very large amount of supplement book features to just give things for free, like ability scores and spells, besides getting free attack bonus from masochism. You really think that 22 charisma for a character at level 6 is appropriate and balanced?
I think I still have insist on no 5 Damage Reduction, because for Posey to take… I don’t know how much damage but definitely not much, in the same fight where Silver Sword takes 15 plus whatever the zebra did, is extremely unseemly to me. I’m also still unsure about the dastana, or whatever it is that makes her AC 20 rather than 19.
>>181784
Is she a cute, sexy pony, or is she an undead horror that’s incredibly terrifying? Because it seems wrong for her to be instilling so much fear in enemies while the cleric a few feet back just sits, contemplates throwing a grenade at the party, and says “this is normal.”
>>181790
Does the international council of zeeb relations have an address, because they are about to be served for not paying.
See >>181787
>>181765
>>181764
That’s a very large amount of supplement book features to just give things for free, like ability scores and spells, besides getting free attack bonus from masochism. You really think that 22 charisma for a character at level 6 is appropriate and balanced?
I think I still have insist on no 5 Damage Reduction, because for Posey to take… I don’t know how much damage but definitely not much, in the same fight where Silver Sword takes 15 plus whatever the zebra did, is extremely unseemly to me. I’m also still unsure about the dastana, or whatever it is that makes her AC 20 rather than 19.
>>181784
Is she a cute, sexy pony, or is she an undead horror that’s incredibly terrifying? Because it seems wrong for her to be instilling so much fear in enemies while the cleric a few feet back just sits, contemplates throwing a grenade at the party, and says “this is normal.”
>>181790
Does the international council of zeeb relations have an address, because they are about to be served for not paying.
>>181792
>You really think that 22 charisma for a character at level 6 is appropriate and balanced?
I mean... yes actually, imo.
Even with SRD only materials, you can play a Water Orc barbarian with 22 Str at lvl 1.
Also, half of the party can fly at will. I really don't consider my racial charisma bonus to be excessive by comparison.
>I think I still have insist on no 5 Damage Reduction
Oh, alright...
I do want to stress the level cost I paid for the damage reduction though. If I lose abilities that I paid valuable levels for, I would like to level up soon.
Also, a window dressing weakness on her sheet is that wooden weapons always bypass her DR.
>I’m also still unsure about the dastana, or whatever it is that makes her AC 20 rather than 19.
AC boosting really wasn't my priority anyway, so whatever.
>Is she a cute, sexy pony, or is she an undead horror that’s incredibly terrifying?
Can't she be both? Like Sparklemoon? Nightmare Moon? Chrysalis? Rosa Maledicta? Midnight Sparkle? Pre-Redemption Glimmer? The list goes on.
She's a vampiric sorceress with : powerful and beautiful, and all around adorafying.
>Because it seems wrong for her to be instilling so much fear in enemies
90% of Rosey Ring's attacks and spells are fear-based. She's a fearmonger build in a fearmonger class.
>while the cleric a few feet back just sits, contemplates throwing a grenade at the party
I could do that too, but it would be kind of rude.
Rule #1 of playing evil characters: the party is not the target of your evil.
>You really think that 22 charisma for a character at level 6 is appropriate and balanced?
I mean... yes actually, imo.
Even with SRD only materials, you can play a Water Orc barbarian with 22 Str at lvl 1.
Also, half of the party can fly at will. I really don't consider my racial charisma bonus to be excessive by comparison.
>I think I still have insist on no 5 Damage Reduction
Oh, alright...
I do want to stress the level cost I paid for the damage reduction though. If I lose abilities that I paid valuable levels for, I would like to level up soon.
Also, a window dressing weakness on her sheet is that wooden weapons always bypass her DR.
>I’m also still unsure about the dastana, or whatever it is that makes her AC 20 rather than 19.
AC boosting really wasn't my priority anyway, so whatever.
>Is she a cute, sexy pony, or is she an undead horror that’s incredibly terrifying?
Can't she be both? Like Sparklemoon? Nightmare Moon? Chrysalis? Rosa Maledicta? Midnight Sparkle? Pre-Redemption Glimmer? The list goes on.
She's a vampiric sorceress with : powerful and beautiful, and all around adorafying.
>Because it seems wrong for her to be instilling so much fear in enemies
90% of Rosey Ring's attacks and spells are fear-based. She's a fearmonger build in a fearmonger class.
>while the cleric a few feet back just sits, contemplates throwing a grenade at the party
I could do that too, but it would be kind of rude.
Rule #1 of playing evil characters: the party is not the target of your evil.
>>181792
I think the dastana is fine, as long as it provides a spell check failure chance. Posey is kisted as being unable to fail on a spellcast, not sure what thats about
I think the dastana is fine, as long as it provides a spell check failure chance. Posey is kisted as being unable to fail on a spellcast, not sure what thats about
>>181800
>Posey is kisted as being unable to fail on a spellcast, not sure what thats about
I've explained this to you three times already. It's one of her class features:
>Dread necromancers are also proficient with light armor, but not with shields. The somatic components required for dread necromancer spells are simple, so members of this class can cast dread necromancer spells while wearing light armor without incurring the normal arcane spell failure chance. She still incurs the normal arcane spell failure chance for arcane spells derived from other classes. In addition, if a dread necromancer wears medium or heavy armor, or uses a shield, she incurs the same chance of arcane spell failure as any other arcane caster if the spell in question has a somatic component (and most do).
Dread necromancers get armor, like Bards.
Dread Necromancers don't get Improved Mage Armor or Shield or Protection From Arrows or other defensive spells, so they need to wear armor.
Note that even the Asian Lady who represents the sample Dread Necromancer in Heroes Of Horror is wearing bracers.
>>181764
I forgot that Posey's Lich Body Damage reduction is supposed to be 4/Bludgeoning and Magic now. I neglected to add that when she leveled up.
So yeah, I'll cut the Half Vampire DR and reduce her DR overall.
>Posey is kisted as being unable to fail on a spellcast, not sure what thats about
I've explained this to you three times already. It's one of her class features:
>Dread necromancers are also proficient with light armor, but not with shields. The somatic components required for dread necromancer spells are simple, so members of this class can cast dread necromancer spells while wearing light armor without incurring the normal arcane spell failure chance. She still incurs the normal arcane spell failure chance for arcane spells derived from other classes. In addition, if a dread necromancer wears medium or heavy armor, or uses a shield, she incurs the same chance of arcane spell failure as any other arcane caster if the spell in question has a somatic component (and most do).
Dread necromancers get armor, like Bards.
Dread Necromancers don't get Improved Mage Armor or Shield or Protection From Arrows or other defensive spells, so they need to wear armor.
Note that even the Asian Lady who represents the sample Dread Necromancer in Heroes Of Horror is wearing bracers.
>>181764
I forgot that Posey's Lich Body Damage reduction is supposed to be 4/Bludgeoning and Magic now. I neglected to add that when she leveled up.
So yeah, I'll cut the Half Vampire DR and reduce her DR overall.
>>181792
>You really think that 22 charisma for a character at level 6 is appropriate and balanced?
>>181764
>Dex: Posey's unmodified Dex score is 16 (+3), but with Undead Mastery it is 20 (+5).
And:
>Half-Vampire Template (Libris Mortis): +2 Cha, +2 Str, +2 Dex
>She also has a +2 Str Bonus from a symptom of Corruption (HH): Bones Thicken.
>She also has a +4 Enhancement Bonus to Str and Dex from Undead Mastery
It seems like she has at least three scores >=20 if I'm understanding this correctly.
Is your character stronger than mine by the way, whose whole identity is about her massive strength while yours is a caster?
>You really think that 22 charisma for a character at level 6 is appropriate and balanced?
>>181764
>Dex: Posey's unmodified Dex score is 16 (+3), but with Undead Mastery it is 20 (+5).
And:
>Half-Vampire Template (Libris Mortis): +2 Cha, +2 Str, +2 Dex
>She also has a +2 Str Bonus from a symptom of Corruption (HH): Bones Thicken.
>She also has a +4 Enhancement Bonus to Str and Dex from Undead Mastery
It seems like she has at least three scores >=20 if I'm understanding this correctly.
Is your character stronger than mine by the way, whose whole identity is about her massive strength while yours is a caster?
>>181801
I suppose if its an express feature of the class. The "simple gestures specific to "dread necromancy" was what I was having trouble with.
I suppose if its an express feature of the class. The "simple gestures specific to "dread necromancy" was what I was having trouble with.
>>181804
I mean, now when I think about it. I don't really care if Poesy is a superior being to Virgin.
I don't wanna be like interrogating you or anything. You have always been friendly and offered me help in building my character and I appreciate it.
And I'm trying to not take sides here because I'm a layman pleb when it comes to DnD so I try to refrain from giving my opinions.
But I am curious of your vision for Poesy. Usually, I like the rule of a pro and a con. For example: Virgin is strong and good at melee but she's dumb as bricks and she's has no range attacks. It's not perfect yet due to her sheet not being finished but you get the idea. An archer is easy prey when you're on top of them but are in a position of advantage from range. This idea works for the, "Jack of all trades(pro), master of none(con)," too.
Sorry, if this feel like I'm patronizing you. That's not my intention at all, I just wanted to be clear with what I mean.
So to me, she seems almost like perfect being but with the drawback that she's weak to holy stuff that hurts undead stuff. Do you find that a fair assessment? Or did I miss something?
I'm asking this because, if I was a GM, I would like to know how I'd challenge or threaten Poesy and again, this might just be because of my lack of knowledge, but I can't figure out how to do that from what I have read. Though, what you have written here isn't the whole sheet either so that might be why I don't get it.
I mean, now when I think about it. I don't really care if Poesy is a superior being to Virgin.
I don't wanna be like interrogating you or anything. You have always been friendly and offered me help in building my character and I appreciate it.
And I'm trying to not take sides here because I'm a layman pleb when it comes to DnD so I try to refrain from giving my opinions.
But I am curious of your vision for Poesy. Usually, I like the rule of a pro and a con. For example: Virgin is strong and good at melee but she's dumb as bricks and she's has no range attacks. It's not perfect yet due to her sheet not being finished but you get the idea. An archer is easy prey when you're on top of them but are in a position of advantage from range. This idea works for the, "Jack of all trades(pro), master of none(con)," too.
Sorry, if this feel like I'm patronizing you. That's not my intention at all, I just wanted to be clear with what I mean.
So to me, she seems almost like perfect being but with the drawback that she's weak to holy stuff that hurts undead stuff. Do you find that a fair assessment? Or did I miss something?
I'm asking this because, if I was a GM, I would like to know how I'd challenge or threaten Poesy and again, this might just be because of my lack of knowledge, but I can't figure out how to do that from what I have read. Though, what you have written here isn't the whole sheet either so that might be why I don't get it.
>>181806
I dont mind Rosey being OP one bit; I did mind the condescention. Ya see the bibliography on that shit? My bibliography has 2 listings: the PHB, and a single homebrew feat that allows you to basically do flurry of blows in light armor, but requires dagger focus as a prereq, so its kinda balanced. But anyway, Im not against the stacking, I just dont wanna die when the boss whos a challenge hits the party with Final Flash or some shit.
I dont mind Rosey being OP one bit; I did mind the condescention. Ya see the bibliography on that shit? My bibliography has 2 listings: the PHB, and a single homebrew feat that allows you to basically do flurry of blows in light armor, but requires dagger focus as a prereq, so its kinda balanced. But anyway, Im not against the stacking, I just dont wanna die when the boss whos a challenge hits the party with Final Flash or some shit.
And, the ask on the Dagger mastery included a description about how alongsize improved grappling, he used neighponese (or whatever it is) jiu jitsu and the dagger mastery to grapple and stabby stab his opponents after removing their dex bonus (so sneak attacks). It made sense with what I wanted to do with the character and fit his story background (what I had established, and its only reinforced 3x by inclusion ofnLacey)
>>181822
>Dagger mastery
Is this homebrew? The thing you describe really shouldn't cost a feat. There's even variant weapon proficiencies got Monk ACFs, some of which let you flurry with a dagger:
https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/baseCore/monk.html#weapon-proficiencies
Fill that slot with Darkstalker or Craven instead.
>Dagger mastery
Is this homebrew? The thing you describe really shouldn't cost a feat. There's even variant weapon proficiencies got Monk ACFs, some of which let you flurry with a dagger:
https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/baseCore/monk.html#weapon-proficiencies
Fill that slot with Darkstalker or Craven instead.
As part of my build change, I'm going to reshuffle Posey's feats. I'm going to dump Corrupt Arcana for Item Familiar.
>>181850
Yes, but cuz dagger focus its technically a double feat, and it only really buffs something he can otherwise already do cuz the monk dip, excepting the armor. Which its self not great when you consider what a wise monk could do, but hes not wise,....
Yes, but cuz dagger focus its technically a double feat, and it only really buffs something he can otherwise already do cuz the monk dip, excepting the armor. Which its self not great when you consider what a wise monk could do, but hes not wise,....
As a monk, it would make more sense to use weapon focus: unarmed/monk weapons, but cuz his rolls werent greatest I had to try and fit him how I could
>>181860
Understandable. But given his humble street background, he would have limited exposure to super cool feats and abilities, and the ones he does have are based off having impressed members of an ancient traditional ninja-bat dynasty/house, traceable back however many number of years.
Understandable. But given his humble street background, he would have limited exposure to super cool feats and abilities, and the ones he does have are based off having impressed members of an ancient traditional ninja-bat dynasty/house, traceable back however many number of years.
>>181864
>given his humble street background, he would have limited exposure to super cool feats and abilities
Ngl, I really dislike this approach to character creation. I've seen it before.
>I am humble so I wouldn't have access to nice things
You are a hero. You can do cool stuff if you want to.
>given his humble street background, he would have limited exposure to super cool feats and abilities
Ngl, I really dislike this approach to character creation. I've seen it before.
>I am humble so I wouldn't have access to nice things
You are a hero. You can do cool stuff if you want to.
>>181867
Bleh. I appreciate the merit to your position/structure, but i am trying to appeal to an archetype as much as I'm trying to make his stats and abilities viable, and limitations are a part of that. For example. The idea is that he has vested monies/interests all over, and is famously profitable. But at a given moment, he only has (literally right now 200 notes (not sure bits or w/ever). He is assumed to reinvest to a degree that hes kinda fancy-broke, butbif his assets were liquid he could retire the whole party.
And part of that amassing of wealth/power/influence is to leverage a specific interest increasingly emerging as part of his backstory and present story. Yes, it could be done other ways, but this current way makes sense especially with the specifics
Bleh. I appreciate the merit to your position/structure, but i am trying to appeal to an archetype as much as I'm trying to make his stats and abilities viable, and limitations are a part of that. For example. The idea is that he has vested monies/interests all over, and is famously profitable. But at a given moment, he only has (literally right now 200 notes (not sure bits or w/ever). He is assumed to reinvest to a degree that hes kinda fancy-broke, butbif his assets were liquid he could retire the whole party.
And part of that amassing of wealth/power/influence is to leverage a specific interest increasingly emerging as part of his backstory and present story. Yes, it could be done other ways, but this current way makes sense especially with the specifics
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>>181768
Earth ponies have +2 strength, +2 constitution. I don't think they get an extra feat, but I'm not sure. The thing about racial bonii is that they apply to averages. The average earth pony will be stronger and tougher than an average unicorn or pegasus of the same size. For example, Amber is fairly short but she is thicc and has effective strength/constitution scores of 14 with the racial bonus.
>>181764
>>181765
>The The Bloodtouched Rite (ECS): this is a ritual from Eberron Campaign Setting; it involves a bloodletting Sacrament where the blood-worshipping Necromancers and priests of the blood of Vol permanently decrease their Constitution scores in exchange for Charisma bonus to HP at lvl 1 only, and +1 effective level to Rebuke Undead.
>She gains Cerebrosis as a bonus feat by sacrificing Constitution for the Rite Of The Blot.
>All of her various racial modifiers, enhancement modifiers, etc. affect everything except for constitution.
Good thing undead don't have constitution at all. All this feels very powergamey. And yes, I know it's not "meta" and could be beaten by a real powergamer, but a lot of us are new to DnD and haven't optimized our characters nearly so well. This is why saying "I'm actually lower level" is just salt in the wounds, considering she is objectively stronger than everypony else just by ability scores alone. Nopony else is playing a water orc barbarian with 22 str at lvl 1, and it shows.
>>181806
Here, here
>>181786
Balancing zebras is harder because they wouldn't have the strength of earth ponies, nor wings, nor a horn to cast magic with. They would probably get a bonus to survival and alchemy, but I'm not sure what else.
Earth ponies have +2 strength, +2 constitution. I don't think they get an extra feat, but I'm not sure. The thing about racial bonii is that they apply to averages. The average earth pony will be stronger and tougher than an average unicorn or pegasus of the same size. For example, Amber is fairly short but she is thicc and has effective strength/constitution scores of 14 with the racial bonus.
>>181764
>>181765
>The The Bloodtouched Rite (ECS): this is a ritual from Eberron Campaign Setting; it involves a bloodletting Sacrament where the blood-worshipping Necromancers and priests of the blood of Vol permanently decrease their Constitution scores in exchange for Charisma bonus to HP at lvl 1 only, and +1 effective level to Rebuke Undead.
>She gains Cerebrosis as a bonus feat by sacrificing Constitution for the Rite Of The Blot.
>All of her various racial modifiers, enhancement modifiers, etc. affect everything except for constitution.
Good thing undead don't have constitution at all. All this feels very powergamey. And yes, I know it's not "meta" and could be beaten by a real powergamer, but a lot of us are new to DnD and haven't optimized our characters nearly so well. This is why saying "I'm actually lower level" is just salt in the wounds, considering she is objectively stronger than everypony else just by ability scores alone. Nopony else is playing a water orc barbarian with 22 str at lvl 1, and it shows.
>>181806
Here, here
>>181786
Balancing zebras is harder because they wouldn't have the strength of earth ponies, nor wings, nor a horn to cast magic with. They would probably get a bonus to survival and alchemy, but I'm not sure what else.
>>181806
If I were assaulting Rosey - assuming no.meta knowledge - Brie would start with grapples to eliminate all but light weapons. Then attempt a stabby stab. Strategy to follow based on result, ostensibly determining crits/sneaks dont work and prolly busting a smoke grenade
If I were assaulting Rosey - assuming no.meta knowledge - Brie would start with grapples to eliminate all but light weapons. Then attempt a stabby stab. Strategy to follow based on result, ostensibly determining crits/sneaks dont work and prolly busting a smoke grenade
>>181955
I didnt say it would work, just thats whatbhis strategy would be from his current practices and understanding
I didnt say it would work, just thats whatbhis strategy would be from his current practices and understanding
>>181957
Remember, Im the one saying Rosie bodies everyone (less so with recent developments, but still a force tonreckon with)
Remember, Im the one saying Rosie bodies everyone (less so with recent developments, but still a force tonreckon with)
>>181964
We don't even know what the crown does. The most dangerous thing it did was summon a yeth hound.
We don't even know what the crown does. The most dangerous thing it did was summon a yeth hound.
>>181986
>>182008
>>181986
Hey, I have money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ViQoMdKx4o
I've never done commissions before though. I'm shy...
>>182008
>>181986
Hey, I have money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ViQoMdKx4o
I've never done commissions before though. I'm shy...
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