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>>187203
80% of the problems with Brie can be addressed with 100% of one player. Dont make me make this awkward, cuz awkward is ALL I have in my hand anymore

The quest had a pretty good momentum going for a while. Then that week before Christmas, on that Monday and especially the Tuesday after the last combat, Brie got pissy at Posey for... existing, I guess, and went on an unending diatribe. Just when I had hoped that Dark Star was posting and I could pay attention to him instead it was Posey deciding to spam the thread with endless "sneed spam." Because that's what we need. Spam. Just like the russian bot posts except 10+ posts while I'm at work rather than just one or two. Anyways, all of this drama happened while I was trying to work, and it damn near caused me to have a nervous breakdown. Basically I was put in the position of Skylar in this video. It got so bad that my parents asked me if I was okay when they saw me, as they heard me muttering "shut up" to myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RPoDvDVmwc&pp=ygUXc2h1dCB1cCBzaHV0IHVwIHNodXQgdXA%3D . After that I decided that I was going to play stellaris instead. But the problem with that is that Stellaris is very addictive, and when you start you can't easily stop. So the momentum was lost for those free days before Christmas, and then I was out of country for more than a week, and then work was hard last week, and basically I'm not back in the groove.

I really am unsure about quite a few decisions. Narrative, combat, how to handle things... It's easy for me to be demoralized. This is the first big quest since 2020, and the first multi person quest at all since 2022... Actually, I've had the idea since 2022... I don't know. I want things to go well, but don't always know how to do that.

So yes, I was upset when Brie's player is out of character criticizing another player for trying to actually play the game. And this is another thing. Brie loves to focus on what other players do and criticize them for it. Not in character. Sometimes it's valid and sometimes it isn't. Either way just shut the fuck up and let people play the game, Jesus. Focus on your own damn character and let Silver talk. It's not like I was going to force the whole group into combat at 10 PM anyways. What did you think would happen?

And then losing the millennial post... any time I looked at the thread and thought "maybe I should get back to it" I look at the thread, see that it's on the wrong number, and the enthusiasm just dies.

Also stop the fucking post spam. We're more than 1/10th of the way into this thread's miserable life already and nothing at all has happened. Holy hell

>>187076
>it's better if you articulate why you disagree with his point than imply that it's faulty without addressing why
No, and I'm not sorry. Sometimes an expression of emotion is really just an expression of emotion. Sometimes emotions just need to be expressed. The post just came off as rude and offensive in multiple parts. I know that because I was pissed off everything I read is going to be offensive, but with this player specifically this is a consistent issue. This player, every single night, wants to have some kind of correction "They wouldn't use American trucks" or "there should only be one cathedral in a city and not two" or "You can freeze to death at 40 degrees" (when I say that shivering was caused by mental degradation and not the cold) and this is so consistent that any time we play, I can expect that he'll post two+ hours after things have started, and there's going to be some sort of correction like that somewhere. Normally this is the kind of thing that I can just suffer but... Have you ever seen the film Falling Down? There's a thousand things that we all suffer every day in normal life, but after we've already snapped... You just feel like pulling a submachine gun at MacDonalds when they won't serve breakfast, or shooting a rocket launcher at the obvious make-work never-ending construction site. The tone he used really did piss me off, and I wasn't going to suffer it. Am I making any sense? No? Moving on.

Also, what was I to say to the substance of what he said? He made his point rather clearly. 1. He didn't think his character did anything wrong given how things were set up (Maybe it's on me for not including his in that category of 'character's that didn't piss me off', since I don't think he really did), and second and more importantly 2. He'd rather his character suffer any failure than have any correction. Okay. Fair enough. The only question left to be asked is, do others feel that way?

>>187183
>In terms of acceptability stealing ranks below killing party members.
This is retarded, and I don't care if you don't understand why this is retarded.

As for stealing the crown,
1. Posey has not demonstrated that she can be trusted with a cursed crown any more than Brie can with explosives or Silver with your daughter
2. After getting the crown, Posey then wanted to refuse to negotiate any kind of agreement where it counts as a decent potion of her share... really? She just expects to get it as pure profit for herself without the rest of the party getting something in compensation? My brother in Christ, this is how you get conspired against and stolen from by the party (You) stole the crown from
3. Posey would have no way to know how it was lost, as these things could absolutely fall out of the bag, be stolen by one of the ethereal jaunters, stolen by one of the non-ponies in the group, or any number of such sources. Anything to the contrary is just metagaming

Don't be a faggot and you won't be stolen from
>It's what my character would do!
Your character is about to be pickpocketed twice in the same day

>>187204
And will you shut the fuck up about how much you hate Posey. We get it. You hate Posey because reasons. You made that point 3 months ago. We understand. You've said that already. You've posted maybe already a thousand posts about how much you hate Posey. You've killed multiple threads saying it. Okay. We hear you. We've heard you. Now shut the fuck up. Jesus Christ.

>>187205
>Brie got pissy at Posey for... existing, I guess
Flagrantly reductive, but okay, not gonna take the bait.
>You hate Posey
Posey was one of my favorite people.i dont hate him, I dont know what the deal is honestly

This will be my last post on the matter. A bunch of months ago, I did something stupid. I do that, its usually oblivious and not malicious. But, I know me, so I own that I did something. That I'm not specifically aware of what it was MAY be a source of anon's ire. I never thought of him as an opponent until he dickrided Asuka in the discord. And since then, we have been at odds. And for what it's worth,... nevermind. I dont want to be at odds anymore

>>187207
>Posey was one of my favorite people.i dont hate him
You may feel that way, but to the rest of us it really feels like you despise his guts. Hell, I've personally felt you've been trying to run him off to be frankly honest.

>>187207
>Flagrantly reductive
I honestly and sincerely do not remember what it was that allegedly set you off that day. What I absolutely remember is your reaction to it, and then Posey’s reaction to your reaction (and insisting on doing it while I was trying to work) reducing me to such an exasperated state that it was actively harmful to my mental health, and I had to step away from the game and we still haven’t recovered from it.

Whatever valid critiques you may have, your reactions are consistently so excessive and annoying that whatever it was you had to say is entirely lost on outside observers, who just want you to stop. Have you read any version of Romeo and Juliet? That story isn’t about the subtle nuances of the Guelph and Gihboline conflict and the history of the feud and why we should be invested in it, it’s about how greatly the conflict has exceeded its initial causes to the degree those reasons no longer matter.

>>187208
>Dickrided Asuka in the discord
Neither Asuka nor discord has anything to do with my game at all. This fight reminds me of how, many years ago when I was in school, Israelis and Palestinians would get into literal fights on campus. All I could think is “why are they even in my country? Go fight each other in Israel.”
I don’t care if he fucked your boyfriend or whatever he did out of game. That has nothing to do with my game and neither I, nor but other player besides the two of you care. Go fight him on discord. Go fight him on Roll 20 or min max.net or one of those other games he’s in or go over to his house with a giant boom box for all I care, just stop interrupting my game to fight him.

https://youtu.be/x7-165hJAis?si=Dhy53YzJC88XLWqB

None of this is an argumen
>>187210
>I've personally felt you've been trying to run him off to be frankly honest
I can see how it might seem that way. Ive felt hes been enabled to try and run me off this whole time, to the tacit acceptance of everyone else.
>I dont remember what he did that day
I do
>excessive and annoying
When you get to the point where you're using explosives to stop a wildfire,...
>neother Asuka nor discord
Its all the same people
>Stop
I'm trying ;_;

>>187205
>Posey deciding to spam the thread with endless "sneed spam."
I was doing that because Brie's player was randomly kvetching and making cryptic, vaguely-threatening posts and then deleting them, and otherwise trying to bait my engagement.
Maybe it wasn't the best response, but it's what I would do in any other context.
>I was upset when Brie's player is out of character criticizing another player for trying to actually play the game. And this is another thing. Brie loves to focus on what other players do and criticize them for it. Not in character. Sometimes it's valid and sometimes it isn't. Either way just shut the fuck up and let people play the game, Jesus. Focus on your own damn character and let Silver talk.
This.
>Don't be a faggot and you won't be stolen from
If my character is stolen from, am I supposed to just not respond? What would you do?
Remember what Posey said to Mala about not descending into barbarism? This is what causes that.
>3. Posey would have no way to know how it was lost, as these things could absolutely fall out of the bag
There is only one available character who is a self-described thief, and even if that's not set in stone, she wouldn't just give up on it.
>Anything to the contrary is just metagaming
She'd kill the most obvious candidate, and if that didn't work she'd move onto the next one and/or make their corpses say where her equipment is. She would not just give up.
>Posey then wanted to refuse to negotiate any kind of agreement where it counts as a decent potion of her share
I didn't say that.
>She just expects to get it as pure profit for herself without the rest of the party getting something in compensation?
I didn't say that either.
Nobody else even said they wanted the crown. Nobody else asked to keep it. Posey has the Tiara just like Kira has her pearl necklace.
>get conspired against and stolen from by the party (You) stole the crown from
If this happens, I will respond however I deem is appropriate.
>Your character is about to be pickpocketed twice in the same day
If he pickpockets me, so help me god I will kill him and anypony who gets in my way of killing him.
If you don't like that, you can just throw me out of the game right now, because I absolutely won't tolerate him stealing from me. I could tolerate all his other bullshit, but that is not something that I am going to compromise on. It makes me livid. I would not be able to continue playing in good faith knowing that he has stolen something from my character.
>>187210
>I've personally felt you've been trying to run him off to be frankly honest
I feel that way too, and tbh if it weren't for completing the quest I might've left already. I really dislike having to interact with him, which is why I have stopped interacting with him altogether for the past two months. I don't meme at him. I don't reply to him. I don't bother him. I don't antagonize him. I don't even read his posts. I have held up my end of the deal not to bother him, but he has not done the same.
>>187212
>do not remember what it was that allegedly set you off that day
It was calling his character cute and posting cute bat pony pics. That's literally it.
>reducing me to such an exasperated state that it was actively harmful to my mental health, and I had to step away from the game and we still haven’t recovered from it.
I'm sorry bro...
>your reactions are consistently so excessive and annoying that whatever it was you had to say is entirely lost on outside observers
He also has the tendency to delete what he posts after about ~30 minutes (long enough for people to see it) to avoid the consequences of his actions.
>Asuka
Who the fuck is Asuka, and why does that matter?
See, this is part of what bugs me: he keeps dragging unsolicited off-site drama into this game. I didn't ask for that. He's done this dozens if not hundreds of times.

>>187215
>Nobody else even said they wanted the crown
Not true
Leaving the rest, trying to stop.

>>187215
Dude, I’m saying that if you just don’t be a faggot with cursed items like the crown and with loot in general then I’m not going to let anyone steal from your character. Jesus Christ, chill. You hate stealing so much that you decided to DM a character out of nothing just so she could successfully steal from you. We get it. Calm down. Take a Valium if you have to.

>>187205
>This player, every single night, wants to have some kind of correction "They wouldn't use American trucks" or "there should only be one cathedral in a city and not two" or "You can freeze to death at 40 degrees" (when I say that shivering was caused by mental degradation and not the cold) and this is so consistent that any time we play, I can expect that he'll post two+ hours after things have started, and there's going to be some sort of correction like that somewhere.
I'm sorry. I can see why being so pedantic, especially in public, can be exhausting to someone else. I'll just roll with your descriptions, and if I really think there is a bad discrepancy then I'll privately mention it. Being a nagging editor is just unfun.

>>187213
>Ive felt hes been enabled to try and run me off this whole time, to the tacit acceptance of everyone else.
Don't misrepresent us. I won't get into the drama of it but we did stand up for you at the time and it's irritating that you forgot this, since apparently you cannot forget the grudge itself.

>>187215
>She'd kill the most obvious candidate, and if that didn't work she'd move onto the next one and/or make their corpses say where her equipment is. She would not just give up.
sigh
>Nobody else even said they wanted the crown. Nobody else asked to keep it. Posey has the Tiara just like Kira has her pearl necklace.
The party consensus was that the crown was too dangerous to be entrusted to any one pony, and that we would ensure its safe storage, study or destruction after the mission. Amidst different counterproposals Cavaliere wanted Mala to hold onto the tiara because he seems trustworthy enough. We only very reluctantly allowed Posey to have it AFTER retconning Posey putting it on, and mainly because we just wanted to get on with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXE8LdXzeHM
>If you don't like that, you can just throw me out of the game right now, because I absolutely won't tolerate him stealing from me. I could tolerate all his other bullshit, but that is not something that I am going to compromise on. It makes me livid. I would not be able to continue playing in good faith knowing that he has stolen something from my character.
Stealing from another player is enough of a grey area that I am okay with not allowing it, I guess. Posey notably did not have that reaction to a NPC pickpocket; however, the money is worth much less to her.

>>187218
>Posey notably did not have that reaction to a NPC pickpocket
See >>178141 →

>>187215
Dude, he has been leaving you and your character alone, both in and out of character. What has there been since Christmas? Nothing, I think, or even for the week before then. Then when he made that post you decided to empty your pockets of spaghetti, cast it upon the ground, point a finger, issue a fatwa against Brie and his player, and scream "I'll kill you! I'll kill you! I'll kill you!" I wish I were exaggerating that last part, that's what you did.

For God's sake, your character was never stolen from, Reread Brie's post. He's saying "I had this idea two months ago. I've decided not to go through with it because I don't care any more." He's posting about it because it didn't happen and he's abandoned the intent to do so, and he believes that being open about this former plot will help him on his growth. It didn't happen. If it had, he wouldn't be openly posting about it.

As you yourself have pointed out, PvP is banned, and stealing is a type of PvP. No theft from a player can happen without my say so and I never said so. He came up with the idea and messaged me about it on Discord in November two or three days after the cursed crown fiasco happened. At that time I was seriously questioning if it was right for Posey to take the crown at all, and the incident was still fresh. He messaged me while I was in a museum in Delft in the Netherlands. The only thing I had to say was to comment on how his character did not have maxed-out sleight of hand, when even a joke NPC character I made had max sleight, and meanwhile I went on to read about Willem of Orange's leading of the Dutch revolt in Delft, and about how the first European knock offs of Chinese porcelain were made in Delft. I never said "yeah, this happened."

Your reaction yesterday was on the scale to make Brie look like the reasonable, non-spergy one who can control his emotions and doesn't get triggered easily. Read the room. Silver - the most levelheaded and inert of the entire set of players here - posted to tell you that Brie has actually improved pretty significantly over the last few weeks, and please don't start more drama because you'll just piss off GM and stop us from playing. Read >>187218 where all he can say is sigh. For God's sake, you sound like a Muslim when someone draws a cartoon about Mohammed. No one has stolen your non-existent item. Calm down. Go outside. Pet a dog. I don't know. Do whatever you need to get over this slight that never happened.

And there's that time that you were upset that I was out meeting with a friend and my family to eat dinner, while Posey was on hold as I was trying to get the party together, so you DMed your own solo encounter. You created a character to pickpocket Posey, and predicably, Posey lost that encounter and got pickpocketed. You expect all of us to take your hypersensitivity to your character being stolen from seriously after that? That would be like a Muslim drawing a comic of Muhammed being drawn in a comic... including actually drawing the panel of Muhammed in his own comic... Then within the universe of the comic strip Gert Wilders or Trump gets elected and all muslims get deported. Are we supposed to assume that that Muslim hates depictions of the Prophet Muhammed and will go full Charlie Hebdo on anyone who does?

>>187218
>it's irritating that you forgot this
I havent forgotten, thats not not even accurate

>>187220
Okay, I overreacted. I'm sorry. I'm done with the matter.

>You expect all of us to take your hypersensitivity to your character being stolen from seriously after that?
Yes, I do.
Rolling a random encounter table against myself and losing 100 gp is not the same as another PC taking a magic item. That's like saying because you blew 100 dollars at a casino you would tolerate your neighbor stealing your car.
And if Posey ever met that same pony that I randomly generated again, she would kill her on site.
>What has there been since Christmas? Nothing
He tends to delete his posts right after he makes them.
>you sound like a Muslim
Idk, amputation for theft is low-key based.

I delete my posts because later on I see what Ive written and feel shitty. I'm not trying to avoid accountability, Im trying to clean up the pee puddles I sometimes leave around

>>187223
>again?
Im trying to put around 5-10 minutes between my posts
But anyway, this bears clarification.
Yes, I shitpost and then delete it, because the thread doesnt need any more shitposts but I "have a really good one", and cant resist. The irrelevant and unnecessary posts I delete quickly. The adversarial and belligerent posts I try to delete when I have come back later and realized I expressed myself poorly, am unintentionally escalating, or otherwise being destructive.

>>187215
>Spamming is what I would do in any other context
Maybe on 4chan, Roll20, Giants in the Playground, and the myriad discord servers you’re in, the administrators and game masters just love seeing you spam on their respective websites and appreciate that you do that instead of alerting them and letting them handle it. But this is my thread, my game, and my website. And here, do not spam. You see how I constantly bitch at Brie for making innumerable small posts, and unlike you, he isn’t intentionally trying to disrupting the experience for everyone else. You are. Even the constant stream of Cyrillic bot spam at least has the defense that 1. It’s only one or two posts at a time, and 2. They are presumably trying to advertise drywall in Cornwall, or boost Google metrics, unlike what you do which is intentionally destroy the thread. You have told the rest of us that we must respect your hypersensitivity to your character being stolen from without debate or qualification, even though the rest of us see it as either morally grey or moderately annoying, and that if your character is stolen from you will kill every member of the party until you find the stolen item, endlessly kill the PCs of the responsible player, and or quit the game, and we must accept this. Will you please respect in kind that spamming (and wasting of the millennial gets) is one of my triggers that I absolutely despise?

If you spam again, so help me God, I will unleash such terrible vengeance upon Posey that you will reee until Judgement Day. First, a swarm of gypsies will descend upon Posey like locusts from the heavens. And they will take her saddlebag and pickpocket her. But it won’t be that simple, oh no. First, they will ask Posey to sign their petitions, then they would do the “accidental bump into,” then they would have a child annoyingly do some stupid dance as a distraction, and annoy her with all kind of nonsense. Then Posey would receive magical messengers telling her that her UPS package would not be delivered unless she inserted her credit card information. Then she’d receive a letter from her master in Magehold telling her that she’s been laid off from her position as an apprentice mage and replaced with an HB1 Visa worker from Hindia, then another letter from a court telling her that squatters have occupied whatever property she claims as hers, including both the cottage and the catacombs, and the State has given it to the squatters per adverse possession doctrine, and then another letter informing her that Gloomy has been taken by CPS, and then stilll another letter from the Revenue Service telling her she owes back taxes on all of the loot she has acquired. If she has a cart or vehicle, or hell, even Mason’s car, it will have its catalytic converter stripped by zebras and will be broken into to steal any coins or firearms. Her cottage will be burgled by addicts and any items she had their stolen (these burglars will also steal from the squatters, for what it’s worth. Then she will receive a call from Elijah Goldstein of First Zion Global Bank, telling her that she’s being charged an overdraft fee after her Nord VPN subscription fee, and her purchase from and membership in Sam’s Club, put her below zero. And no, Posey has never had any association of any kind with Sam’s Club. After all of this is accomplished, that dreads bat pony, the one who stole from her before, will sneak up behind her and whisker in her ear “thank you for your contribution to the Bat Pony Defense League. She will then turn herself in to a nearby police officer, who will laugh and tell her that they don’t prosecute minor thefts in Baltimare anymore. Then the police officer will arrest Posey on a warrant for not paying a fee on an unleashed dog charge (her “puppies”). If after all of this, Posey choses to give up on her crusade and enter merciful oblivion, any new character would find that, to their horror, they have inherited Posey’s student loans - because not even in death do the student loans end. Don’t spam my thread

>>187226
Okay I won't sneedpost anymore.

>>187226
>my website
Woah, wait. You're Elway? Cool. Though while I have you here, you must admit that what you call "soccer" is actually the real football, you know the sport were the majority of the time the players are touching the ball with their feet, not their hands. Just putting it out there. Maybe you should make petition to have the name changed. ^^

>The rest
+1 for creativity. I chuckled. ^^

>>187232
Pupper owns the site, not Elway.

>>187233
Thank you. I was just joking. ^^

Uhm, in that posession is 9/10ths of the law, and in that my posts absolutely dominate both the recent posts, threads, and the percentage of posts for the last few months, its MY board Xp

>>187232
>S***er
…

OOOOOONE MILLION YEARS DUNGEON!
No trial! Straight to the dungeon!
https://youtu.be/krHMzFIpTlg?si=PX58zHZCRp9d-e7h

>>187226
Oh, I forgot to add that if Posey spams I’ll have her stallion stolen by another white mare with a thicker ass.

>>187232
Hey, I have a potential idea that requires Virgin Flame to seduce or kidnap Dust

>>187235
Screeches

>>187237
I RESENT BEING USED AS A BARGAINING CHIP

Do I really spam that much? Sneedposting was a one-off thing.

>>187238
YOU’RE NOT A BARGAINING CHIP! YOU’RE LOOT! Now stand still so Vir can put the bag over you!

>>187239
Honestly, you dont. Honestly, Im a hypersensitive fuck that sometimes simply cant handle the bantz. Honestly, I'm sorry for everything, and if I was intuiting, I think GM ending on "stop sneeding" is an attempt to conclude with an otherwise dismissible issue, so we can get back to what we came here for.

>>187240
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>187245
I mean, he's literally Dust. How valuable can dust be

>>187247
In 3.5e, the price of a slave is the slave's CR squared, times 100 gp. A character with class levels has a CR equal to their level. A character with an NPC class has a CR equal to their level minus 1 (or a fraction of that, if lvl 1).

Dust's base slave/ransom value is about 3,600 gp, since he's a lvl 6 Cleric (CR 6). He could go for more, depending on the buyer who wanted something specific, if you were buying from (((neogi))) who would try to extract extra value from the buyer. He probably wouldn't sell for anything above 3600 gp on the Thayan slave market (which is similar to what they would have going on in Magehold).
A Necromancer would probably pay no more than 50-100 gp for his corpse, unless that Necromancer could cast Create Undead and benefit from his class levels, in which case they could be persuaded to pay about half his cost as a living slave, but only if the seller/body-snatcher is aware of this fact.

Assuming Dust weighs as much as a 500 pound Zebra, he's worth about 50-100 gp in meat. This is relevant if you wanted to boil a giant pot of Zebras to summon Dalmosh, in which case it would take about 100 Zebras to call him.
(It's easier if you use fell-animate Cloudkill on a village, and then command the resulting zombies to boil themselves. Dalmosh isn't a picky eater)

His organs (eyes, heart, brain, etc) could sell for maybe another 5 gp, if sold to a caster interested in using them as spell components. Humanoid body parts are worth very little 3.5e, probably to discourage players from going full cyberpunk and trying to sell the eyes of every goblin they kill.

>>187247
There's value in defiance,....

And yes, I shared a number of unkind words to Silver. Givr him an inspiration point ffs

The fun/exploitablr part about taking a 20 is that youre volunteering to fail any other check for the duration of the 20 skill action.
So, in order to not ruin what he's doing with the bomb, he would have to auto-fail a dexterity check, listen checks, spot checks,....

You can't take 20 when disarming a bomb. Taking 20 assumes you failed the check several times before succeeding it.
>Taking 20 means you are trying until you get it right, and it assumes that you fail many times before succeeding. Taking 20 takes twenty times as long as making a single check would take.
It means failing up to 19 times in a row before succeeding by statistic inevitability.

>>187277
Oh contraire. Taking a 20 means A. You arent in a timecrunch/battle situation and B. You're taking all the necessary time to do your absolute best work at the exclusion of all other skills and faculties for the necessary period which technically is 20 rounds, but because its a high explosive I would COMMIT 20 MINUTES

20 minutes being 200 rounds

>>187278
No. You are confusing it with taking 10. Taking 20 means rolling again until you inevitably succeed, but sparing the spamrolls.
>"I keep pounding at the door until it breaks. It will give eventually."
Taking 20 is basically "if at first you don't succeed, try try again".

Taking 10 means doing something carefully so you get an average roll. You do this when your modifier is high enough to succeed on a 10, but not high enough to succeed below 10.
>"I take time to disarm this deadly trap, not leaving anything to chance."
Taking 10 is doing something carefully.

It's written very clearly in the SRD. Go read it. You can't take 20 on a check where the consequences of failure would kill you. Or rather, you CAN take 20, but you would just kill yourself before you succeeded.

>>187280
If GM wants me to roll, I'll roll

>>187281
Maybe check if your modifier is high enough to succeed on a 10 before you blow yourself up.

>>187282
Dont worry, I got this ^_~
Taking a 20 when you have a 10 modifier means you can take a 10 as many times as it takes to get a 20 numbnuts

Brie has a 12 btw

>>187283
Look at the source material again and site the passage for taking 20. Read it carefully.

Taking 20 assumes failing multiple times. It's clearly written as such

>>187285
And if GM asks me to roll, I WILL. Rosey already ran off out of the blast range

>>187284
If your modifier is 12, and you would succeed on a 22, you could take 10 without issue.

Even if your modifier were 9001, you would still blow yourself up if you took 20. Taking 20 guarantees failure the first several times.

>>187286
You are misunderstanding how taking 20 works.

>>187286
>disarming a bomb
Technically speaking, Brie isnt disarming the bomb. He is attempting to not activate the bomb while harvesting the explosives for later use. Important distinction.

>>187288
And you care too much for published rules

>>187289
That still results in the bomb going off if you fail, so taking 20 would just set off the bomb.

>>187291
Then apparently Brie simply hasnt blown up yet, cuz hes well committed to motion