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>>182610
Blood-choke being a 'pinning' option similar to "use opponent's weapon," but without the weapon-in-hoof requirement
Blood-choke being a 'pinning' option similar to "use opponent's weapon," but without the weapon-in-hoof requirement
>>182612
Yes. Im not trying to introduce a blood choke mechanic. Just saying it would be cool here, here, and here.
Yes. Im not trying to introduce a blood choke mechanic. Just saying it would be cool here, here, and here.
>>182615
Yes, but WotC game designers are gender-confused faggots. They should never have been allowed near racial/gender options for characters
Yes, but WotC game designers are gender-confused faggots. They should never have been allowed near racial/gender options for characters
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Psycho-esquw flooters
>>182616
.... What does that have to do with the Sublime Way?
>WotC game designers
Which one? Monte Cooke?
.... What does that have to do with the Sublime Way?
>WotC game designers
Which one? Monte Cooke?
There were no troons involved in 3.5e, to my knowledge.
The same can't be said for 5e.
The same can't be said for 5e.
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Today, December 3, is the six year anniversary of the start of Occupied Equestria. Six years since I started it. Happy Anniversary to everyone who is, and who has played.
It began here, in this thread >>67940 →
It began here, in this thread >>67940 →
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>>182646
What do you get out of the third level of Monk? Not much for your build.
It depends what you want your build to do.
What do you get out of the third level of Monk? Not much for your build.
It depends what you want your build to do.
>>182647
Cavaliere is meant for dual-purpose. He is an extremely good gunfighter and is a capable brawler who should be able to win conflicts non-lethally and knock out enemies before they can raise an alarm. He can also resolve missions peacefully through a combination of diplomacy and intimidation, though he is above all known to be good at fighting. All that is hard to fit into a single DnD 3.5e character which is why I'm left scratching my head.
Cavaliere is meant for dual-purpose. He is an extremely good gunfighter and is a capable brawler who should be able to win conflicts non-lethally and knock out enemies before they can raise an alarm. He can also resolve missions peacefully through a combination of diplomacy and intimidation, though he is above all known to be good at fighting. All that is hard to fit into a single DnD 3.5e character which is why I'm left scratching my head.
>>182648
This actually sounds a bit more like a Rogue to me. Could also be a Swordsage, or a Scout. Maybe even the d20 modern classes are worth a look.
When it comes to combat, what do you want to specialize in?
This actually sounds a bit more like a Rogue to me. Could also be a Swordsage, or a Scout. Maybe even the d20 modern classes are worth a look.
When it comes to combat, what do you want to specialize in?
Btw
I noticed the biggest major difference between 3.5e and d20 modern is the massive damage threshold.
In 3.5e, a Barbarian can take 40 points of damage to the chest, and ask for more.
In d20 modern, a character can get crit with a gunshot for 14 damage, and instantly die if they fail the save.
The massive damage thresholds are what separate high fantasy from military realism.
It's only fun with action points though, which are the default in d20 modern.
I noticed the biggest major difference between 3.5e and d20 modern is the massive damage threshold.
In 3.5e, a Barbarian can take 40 points of damage to the chest, and ask for more.
In d20 modern, a character can get crit with a gunshot for 14 damage, and instantly die if they fail the save.
The massive damage thresholds are what separate high fantasy from military realism.
It's only fun with action points though, which are the default in d20 modern.
>>182651
>Only 1d6 for getting shot with a revolver?
Pistols average 2d6-2d8 in d20 modern. Lowest ones are 2d4.
>I'm not sure how to remedy that.
There's a dragon magazine article that suggests just increasing the damage of firearms by one size category as a variant rule. 2d6 is a lot for a base weapon though.
I forget the issue. It's the same one with the Adamantine Dragon.
System shock thresholds are much lower: your massive damage threshold is equal to your constitution in d20 modern, so if you take a crit from that 2d6 weapon, you could die if you fail the save even if you have 100 HP.
That's probably where you want to spend your action points.
>His specialization is in his revolver (using D20 Modern stats) and his fists
How much are you willing to invest in either fighting style?
>Only 1d6 for getting shot with a revolver?
Pistols average 2d6-2d8 in d20 modern. Lowest ones are 2d4.
>I'm not sure how to remedy that.
There's a dragon magazine article that suggests just increasing the damage of firearms by one size category as a variant rule. 2d6 is a lot for a base weapon though.
I forget the issue. It's the same one with the Adamantine Dragon.
System shock thresholds are much lower: your massive damage threshold is equal to your constitution in d20 modern, so if you take a crit from that 2d6 weapon, you could die if you fail the save even if you have 100 HP.
That's probably where you want to spend your action points.
>His specialization is in his revolver (using D20 Modern stats) and his fists
How much are you willing to invest in either fighting style?
>>182653
Oh, duh, I'm stupid and should have read it.
>System shock thresholds are much lower: your massive damage threshold is equal to your constitution in d20 modern, so if you take a crit from that 2d6 weapon, you could die if you fail the save even if you have 100 HP.
The DM manual for 3.5e also proposes an alternative rule for instant kills where rolling a 20, then a 20 again, then scoring a hit, is an instant kill. I like the concept but on an extremely long campaign like this and in a setting with permadeath it's likely to end up being frustrating for an unlucky player. It's a 1 in 800 chance to instantly die from any hit. It's low compared to real life but in this game it might still be too risky.
>How much are you willing to invest in either fighting style?
Most of my feats are already dedicated to the gunslinger fighting style and I will probably put more towards that end since I want Cavaliere to be the very best in that role. Better unarmed combat is a good plus but if he can beat the average goon on his own then that's good enough.
>>182658
Many thanks!
Oh, duh, I'm stupid and should have read it.
>System shock thresholds are much lower: your massive damage threshold is equal to your constitution in d20 modern, so if you take a crit from that 2d6 weapon, you could die if you fail the save even if you have 100 HP.
The DM manual for 3.5e also proposes an alternative rule for instant kills where rolling a 20, then a 20 again, then scoring a hit, is an instant kill. I like the concept but on an extremely long campaign like this and in a setting with permadeath it's likely to end up being frustrating for an unlucky player. It's a 1 in 800 chance to instantly die from any hit. It's low compared to real life but in this game it might still be too risky.
>How much are you willing to invest in either fighting style?
Most of my feats are already dedicated to the gunslinger fighting style and I will probably put more towards that end since I want Cavaliere to be the very best in that role. Better unarmed combat is a good plus but if he can beat the average goon on his own then that's good enough.
>>182658
Many thanks!
Not trying to relitigate mind you, just wondering. Like, it seems to me that without giving FULL credit, there may have been some degree of precipitation prior to OE, significant enough that players are still trying to distance themselves from,....
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Brain bleach final thought:
Vampire bats dont exsanguinate, they gouge parallel holes with their fangs and then lick the blood like kitties.
Vampire bats dont exsanguinate, they gouge parallel holes with their fangs and then lick the blood like kitties.
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>>182674
At the time, the two main progressive movements were LGB (T hadn't caught on yet, and was still a punchline on sitcoms) and radical feminism. I domt have names of thats what you're asking for, but Id wager if I looked up the lames of people credited as staff, I'd find a bunch of leftism. Yes, thats prejudice on my part.
At the time, the two main progressive movements were LGB (T hadn't caught on yet, and was still a punchline on sitcoms) and radical feminism. I domt have names of thats what you're asking for, but Id wager if I looked up the lames of people credited as staff, I'd find a bunch of leftism. Yes, thats prejudice on my part.
>>182675
>two main progressive movements were LGB (T hadn't caught on yet, and was still a punchline on sitcoms) and radical feminism
Okay, but how is that reflected in 3.5e books? What does that have to do with the game?
>I domt have names
If you don't even know their names, how do you know they were "gender-confused"?
>if I looked up the lames of people credited as staff, I'd find a bunch of leftism
I really don't see any politics reflected in the old books. 3.5e was written before that was commonplace.
>two main progressive movements were LGB (T hadn't caught on yet, and was still a punchline on sitcoms) and radical feminism
Okay, but how is that reflected in 3.5e books? What does that have to do with the game?
>I domt have names
If you don't even know their names, how do you know they were "gender-confused"?
>if I looked up the lames of people credited as staff, I'd find a bunch of leftism
I really don't see any politics reflected in the old books. 3.5e was written before that was commonplace.
>>182677
>there doesnt seem to be any politics in 3.5e
Agreed, but that doesnt mean that it wasn't simmering below the surface.
One thing that people may not appreciate - with regard to GamerGate, Feminist Frequency, and all that shit - is that the left didn't 'infiltrate' games, comics, and so on; the left has always been a significant part of all those cultures. What has changed is the degree of radicalization, reflected in current products.
By the way, y'all hear that Elon is talking about buying Hasbro/WotC?? Expressly to save DnD.
>what does that have to do with the game?
OE? I mean, in a Kevin Bacon sense it could be said to be as relevant to OE as alot of posts here. Regardless, Ive made my point and need not continue
>there doesnt seem to be any politics in 3.5e
Agreed, but that doesnt mean that it wasn't simmering below the surface.
One thing that people may not appreciate - with regard to GamerGate, Feminist Frequency, and all that shit - is that the left didn't 'infiltrate' games, comics, and so on; the left has always been a significant part of all those cultures. What has changed is the degree of radicalization, reflected in current products.
By the way, y'all hear that Elon is talking about buying Hasbro/WotC?? Expressly to save DnD.
>what does that have to do with the game?
OE? I mean, in a Kevin Bacon sense it could be said to be as relevant to OE as alot of posts here. Regardless, Ive made my point and need not continue
>>182678
Left-wing thinking has been pervasive in counter culture and pop culture since the 19th century–it still clings on despite this all flipping. Old DnD wasn't too bad but it did have themes of "racism bad" and women being equal in all aspects. Now that it has become overtly political it is much, much worse.
I hope Elon is not just meming and will do it. Buying out Hasbro could save ponies too.
Left-wing thinking has been pervasive in counter culture and pop culture since the 19th century–it still clings on despite this all flipping. Old DnD wasn't too bad but it did have themes of "racism bad" and women being equal in all aspects. Now that it has become overtly political it is much, much worse.
I hope Elon is not just meming and will do it. Buying out Hasbro could save ponies too.
>>182678
>that doesnt mean that it wasn't simmering below the surface.
Why is that relevant though?
3.5e was written two decades before GamerGate. Before Hasbro acquired WotC. Back when California was a red state. It wasn't an issue.
>y'all hear that Elon is talking about buying Hasbro/WotC?? Expressly to save DnD
That's a topic I will gladly discuss with you, but in another thread.
>that doesnt mean that it wasn't simmering below the surface.
Why is that relevant though?
3.5e was written two decades before GamerGate. Before Hasbro acquired WotC. Back when California was a red state. It wasn't an issue.
>y'all hear that Elon is talking about buying Hasbro/WotC?? Expressly to save DnD
That's a topic I will gladly discuss with you, but in another thread.
What source for ranged increments should we use? D20 Past has much smaller increments for cartridge weapons than D20 Modern, but there's little in the way of technological difference. It hasn't come up much until now because all fights have been at short range, but this mission is in an open area with 100' visibility.
>>182692
I dont know GM's answer to that question, but a bit of theory:
Range increments don't relate to the actual range limit of a weapon, it is a reference of how increased range makes the shot more difficult (and why certain feats negate/increase range increments, alluding to technique and expertise)
I dont know GM's answer to that question, but a bit of theory:
Range increments don't relate to the actual range limit of a weapon, it is a reference of how increased range makes the shot more difficult (and why certain feats negate/increase range increments, alluding to technique and expertise)
>>182692
>What source for ranged increments should we use?
DM doesn't seem to own very many d20 books, so probably default to whatever is most readily available in the SRD.
It's still a question worth considering though.
>>182694
Range Increment is still an important factor to consider in 3.5e, as many feats, items, spells and class features only work within the first or second range increment of your weapon.
>What source for ranged increments should we use?
DM doesn't seem to own very many d20 books, so probably default to whatever is most readily available in the SRD.
It's still a question worth considering though.
>>182694
Range Increment is still an important factor to consider in 3.5e, as many feats, items, spells and class features only work within the first or second range increment of your weapon.
>>182695
Correct. Rogues can't sneak attack beyond 30', and all thrown weapons are limited to 5 increments, and all mechanocal (incl sling) has a limit of 10
Correct. Rogues can't sneak attack beyond 30', and all thrown weapons are limited to 5 increments, and all mechanocal (incl sling) has a limit of 10
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Hey, I finally found the Seduction Rules. I had a feeling it was based on Bluff, not Diplomacy.
It's in Sword & Fist of all places. I couldn't find it because they didn't put it in the Rules Compendium.
Posey is a seducer.
It's in Sword & Fist of all places. I couldn't find it because they didn't put it in the Rules Compendium.
Posey is a seducer.
Meta: receiving a mysterious radio signal begging for help when we were already on our way to the light house feels like a classic hook in ttrpgs. Going to rescue them might be the more interesting route, with unforseen rewards.
>>182851
The option is there, and a couple PCs would be better suited for investigating the Kostromo as they could maintain stealth better. Our stealth/fighting-based characters won't be much help for medical aid to survivors at the airship.
The option is there, and a couple PCs would be better suited for investigating the Kostromo as they could maintain stealth better. Our stealth/fighting-based characters won't be much help for medical aid to survivors at the airship.
>>182853
Splitting the party would divide GM's attention, and make things take more than twice as long in an already slow PbP game. It's not worth it.
Not to mention the encounters planned are probably meant to be a threat for the entire party, and we have at least three more party-level encounters for the XP budget of this day, so you can expect us to face difficult combat again one way or another.
Splitting the party would divide GM's attention, and make things take more than twice as long in an already slow PbP game. It's not worth it.
Not to mention the encounters planned are probably meant to be a threat for the entire party, and we have at least three more party-level encounters for the XP budget of this day, so you can expect us to face difficult combat again one way or another.
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