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Okay Seriously. I would like responses. What do you want me to do when characters are not taking an action that I think is an obvious solution and next step, AND in situations where the consequences will be something the player will consider not desirable? Seriously. What should I do? Because if you don't tell me the answer is almost certainly going to be that I will just not respond for several days and do nothing.
I would say that it should just be played out as is and the characters get whatever end they are heading towards - but I'm afraid that If I do that, I'll either be blamed for it, or it will result in a generalized disappointment. I thought I could just hint things strongly enough, but I don't feel confident about that anymore.
How would you want me to handle it? Do an intelligence roll and spell it out? Have an NPC say something even if that would not be something the NPC would normally say? Drop more hints even if it isn't entirely sensible in context? Just outright say it? Do nothing and then what happens, happens? How should I handle this?
I would say that it should just be played out as is and the characters get whatever end they are heading towards - but I'm afraid that If I do that, I'll either be blamed for it, or it will result in a generalized disappointment. I thought I could just hint things strongly enough, but I don't feel confident about that anymore.
How would you want me to handle it? Do an intelligence roll and spell it out? Have an NPC say something even if that would not be something the NPC would normally say? Drop more hints even if it isn't entirely sensible in context? Just outright say it? Do nothing and then what happens, happens? How should I handle this?
>>186257
>Do an intelligence roll and spell it out? Have an NPC say something even if that would not be something the NPC would normally say? Drop more hints even if it isn't entirely sensible in context? Just outright say it?
Any of these are appropriate.
You could also just remind players that their characters should, given skills and background, know to do things that aren't necessary obvious to the player.
Whatever works.
>Do an intelligence roll and spell it out? Have an NPC say something even if that would not be something the NPC would normally say? Drop more hints even if it isn't entirely sensible in context? Just outright say it?
Any of these are appropriate.
You could also just remind players that their characters should, given skills and background, know to do things that aren't necessary obvious to the player.
Whatever works.
>>186257
I think the DMG1 and DMG2 both have pages on how to handle these sorts of situations. Maybe flip through them again.
If you don't have the DMG2 I can link a PDF.
I think the DMG1 and DMG2 both have pages on how to handle these sorts of situations. Maybe flip through them again.
If you don't have the DMG2 I can link a PDF.
>>186263
>Instead of us telling you what we want in three sentences, why don't you go read this book while you're on vacation in France and still being harangued by work
Sure. Whatever
>Instead of us telling you what we want in three sentences, why don't you go read this book while you're on vacation in France and still being harangued by work
Sure. Whatever
>>186265
Just saying that Monte Cooke probably has a better answer than I do.
Overall, it really depends on what the situation is, what the preferred action is, what the consequences are, and what your goal is for the desired content. It's a case by case thing.
Also, I'm off my meds and severely jetlagged rn, so I can't formulate a long-winded, geeky response like usual.
Just saying that Monte Cooke probably has a better answer than I do.
Overall, it really depends on what the situation is, what the preferred action is, what the consequences are, and what your goal is for the desired content. It's a case by case thing.
Also, I'm off my meds and severely jetlagged rn, so I can't formulate a long-winded, geeky response like usual.
>Wakes
>its 1:07
This is why I said it early. Fucking nelw year,....
>its 1:07
This is why I said it early. Fucking nelw year,....
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>tactics
If we see a group of enemies within 180 ft, I would like to cast Kelgore's Grave Mist on them. This is preferable to use on enemies who can't move away easily, like those manning heavy artillery.
Kelgore's Grave Mist is a spell that does little damage, but the Fatigue+Exhaustion debuffs can end fights on its own if used strategically. The reason why I haven't been using it up until this point is because I didn't want to cripple fellow party members.
Posey is immune to the effects of Grave Mist, so she can use it at close range, but she can't avoid snapping the strength of other PCs if they are near her targets.
If someone with high perception spots a group of several enemies before they spot us, Posey could cast Grave Mist at medium range, while the rest of the party shoots into the AoE. Just don't enter the range of the spell unless you want to be crippled for the rest of the day.
I didn't use it last encounter because the melee character said that they would moving in, and I didn't want to screw them (Exhaustion is no joke). If I had access to Animate Dead I would normally animate a large/huge None Lurker to grapple the enemy and hold them down within the most, but alas, I have only a single scroll.
Wait... I guess I could animate two large bone lurkers using those leviathan bones, if I used up the rest of the castings/components in my scroll.... Yeah, those would be large sized flying creatures, that could carry non-flying PCs aboard the ship.... It would, however, mean that the Day Low Rain's sister at the manor would become uncontrolled though, although Baka is still there to rebuke her if things get ugly.
Thoughts?
[Read more] If we see a group of enemies within 180 ft, I would like to cast Kelgore's Grave Mist on them. This is preferable to use on enemies who can't move away easily, like those manning heavy artillery.
Kelgore's Grave Mist is a spell that does little damage, but the Fatigue+Exhaustion debuffs can end fights on its own if used strategically. The reason why I haven't been using it up until this point is because I didn't want to cripple fellow party members.
Posey is immune to the effects of Grave Mist, so she can use it at close range, but she can't avoid snapping the strength of other PCs if they are near her targets.
If someone with high perception spots a group of several enemies before they spot us, Posey could cast Grave Mist at medium range, while the rest of the party shoots into the AoE. Just don't enter the range of the spell unless you want to be crippled for the rest of the day.
I didn't use it last encounter because the melee character said that they would moving in, and I didn't want to screw them (Exhaustion is no joke). If I had access to Animate Dead I would normally animate a large/huge None Lurker to grapple the enemy and hold them down within the most, but alas, I have only a single scroll.
Wait... I guess I could animate two large bone lurkers using those leviathan bones, if I used up the rest of the castings/components in my scroll.... Yeah, those would be large sized flying creatures, that could carry non-flying PCs aboard the ship.... It would, however, mean that the Day Low Rain's sister at the manor would become uncontrolled though, although Baka is still there to rebuke her if things get ugly.
Thoughts?
Bone lurkers could also aid our extraction, since they're large sized creatures that could carry non-fliers to distant vessels.
It would piss off Dust, but Posey could excuse herself and run off to the leviathan skeleton while Kira leads the others to the Marines.
Because Posey is undead, she can take the Run action indefinitely: she can cover land twice as fast as another character could while hustling (four times regular travel). A bone lurker can fly at the same speed, so if she rides one back she could reconvene with the party in the time it takes for them to find the marines.
It subjects Posey to extra risk, but with the Traveller distracted she could avoid encounters.
Thoughts?
It would piss off Dust, but Posey could excuse herself and run off to the leviathan skeleton while Kira leads the others to the Marines.
Because Posey is undead, she can take the Run action indefinitely: she can cover land twice as fast as another character could while hustling (four times regular travel). A bone lurker can fly at the same speed, so if she rides one back she could reconvene with the party in the time it takes for them to find the marines.
It subjects Posey to extra risk, but with the Traveller distracted she could avoid encounters.
Thoughts?
>>186379
>>186380
My plan for extraction following killing the Traveler involves using a spell to broadcast Silver's voice across the island, warning the newly-freed Kostroma crew members that the Defense Intelligence Agency has landed on the island with the goal of killing all witnesses to the Traveler's powers and that they need to get to the Kostroma before the GRU does and before high tide causes the boat to become unstuck. Once it does get unstuck and as many defecting soldiers and sailors get on board as possible, then them, the party, the marines, and the griffons will sail away to freedom aboard the Kostroma.
>>186380
My plan for extraction following killing the Traveler involves using a spell to broadcast Silver's voice across the island, warning the newly-freed Kostroma crew members that the Defense Intelligence Agency has landed on the island with the goal of killing all witnesses to the Traveler's powers and that they need to get to the Kostroma before the GRU does and before high tide causes the boat to become unstuck. Once it does get unstuck and as many defecting soldiers and sailors get on board as possible, then them, the party, the marines, and the griffons will sail away to freedom aboard the Kostroma.
>>186380
>leviathan skeleton
I'm striggling to recall that being mentioned, unless that was part of the untranslated Russian
>leviathan skeleton
I'm striggling to recall that being mentioned, unless that was part of the untranslated Russian
Did I mention Lacey speaks 12 languages just for tjis reason?
>>186379
If you intend to use this move, I would have to it as her "Gas" attack.
Or, if you (or anyone) wants to use an AoE attack/spell/effect, just tell Brie to
"Hold off, and draw their fire". He wont know what you have planned, but he'll (probably?) divert from his plans for a round.
Alot of Brie's maneuvers involved chained-round actions. Improved feint allows him to feint as a move action or a full round action, so if he's within 5' of a target, he can close with his 5', move action feint, and sneak attack in the same round.
Dodge being a full round action, he also has a strategy of literally fluttering around in midair, to draw enemy fire (full-round dodge action)
In order to sneak-stab 2 opponents without any initial flanking requires a full-round feint action (risky without his dodge), followed by 2 stabs.
His grapple technique youve seen. If solo he CAN turn a grapple into a murder (you recall the face stabbing? I was proud of that technique, slapping a blade into THEOR hand right before the pin maneuver so you can turn their weapon on them, while removing their dex bonus making it a sneak attack, where theyre forced to stab themselves,... I mean yeah it's raw,... still cool tho)
In a more chaotic battle, his tumble-dodge allows him to disengage and maneuver far more.readily than most, so of someone ISN'T getting flanking, he.can adjust to give it to them: Prior to Brie's turn, if any character wants flanking, let me know and I'll try
Other than THAT, hes a skill monkey, so alot of usefulness is contextual and strategic.
"I do not fear the pony who knows 10000 types of stabs, nor the pony who practiced 1 stab 10000 times. For I am the Bat who has practiced 10000 stabs, 10000 times." He would say, if this universe had a Bruce Lee equivalent to paraphrase.
[Read more] If you intend to use this move, I would have to it as her "Gas" attack.
Or, if you (or anyone) wants to use an AoE attack/spell/effect, just tell Brie to
"Hold off, and draw their fire". He wont know what you have planned, but he'll (probably?) divert from his plans for a round.
Alot of Brie's maneuvers involved chained-round actions. Improved feint allows him to feint as a move action or a full round action, so if he's within 5' of a target, he can close with his 5', move action feint, and sneak attack in the same round.
Dodge being a full round action, he also has a strategy of literally fluttering around in midair, to draw enemy fire (full-round dodge action)
In order to sneak-stab 2 opponents without any initial flanking requires a full-round feint action (risky without his dodge), followed by 2 stabs.
His grapple technique youve seen. If solo he CAN turn a grapple into a murder (you recall the face stabbing? I was proud of that technique, slapping a blade into THEOR hand right before the pin maneuver so you can turn their weapon on them, while removing their dex bonus making it a sneak attack, where theyre forced to stab themselves,... I mean yeah it's raw,... still cool tho)
In a more chaotic battle, his tumble-dodge allows him to disengage and maneuver far more.readily than most, so of someone ISN'T getting flanking, he.can adjust to give it to them: Prior to Brie's turn, if any character wants flanking, let me know and I'll try
Other than THAT, hes a skill monkey, so alot of usefulness is contextual and strategic.
"I do not fear the pony who knows 10000 types of stabs, nor the pony who practiced 1 stab 10000 times. For I am the Bat who has practiced 10000 stabs, 10000 times." He would say, if this universe had a Bruce Lee equivalent to paraphrase.
>>186382
That sounds like it involves a bit too many Diplomacy/Bluff checks to be foolproof.
We have no reason to assume that the liberated thralls will be in any condition to man the ship after the Traveller is removed, or that they would defect just from a story about the special forces supposedly coming to attack them. They ARE communists, and they're no more likely to trust us than their own country.
Besides, this is supposed to be a covert operation, with the party disguised as pirates. Stealing a ship full of defectors is plausible, but can we really sail an entire Stalliongrad freighter back to Baltimare covertly?
We still have the Swan Feather token, so we could leave using that.
On another note, how many languages are there in this setting? I'm revising my character sheet, and trying to decide which languages I know, and how many I have access to without skillpoint investure.
That sounds like it involves a bit too many Diplomacy/Bluff checks to be foolproof.
We have no reason to assume that the liberated thralls will be in any condition to man the ship after the Traveller is removed, or that they would defect just from a story about the special forces supposedly coming to attack them. They ARE communists, and they're no more likely to trust us than their own country.
Besides, this is supposed to be a covert operation, with the party disguised as pirates. Stealing a ship full of defectors is plausible, but can we really sail an entire Stalliongrad freighter back to Baltimare covertly?
We still have the Swan Feather token, so we could leave using that.
On another note, how many languages are there in this setting? I'm revising my character sheet, and trying to decide which languages I know, and how many I have access to without skillpoint investure.
>>186388
Or it could involve no Diplomacy/Bluff checks. We'll have to see what GM pone decides, but something tells me the liberated thralls will quickly come to our side when the GRU starts killing them one-by-one. I think we can do it, and it's certainly the best/only plan that's been actually formulated beyond just a basic idea, and so far I haven't heard any outright criticisms or major concerns from GM pone so I'm assuming he's okay with it?
>languages
Basically if you can think of a real world language, there's probably a language for it in the setting. For languages that actually have common use in the current setting, you have Ponish (English), Feathesian (Dutch), Wechselbalg/Herzlander (German), Aquileian (French), and Severyanan (Russian). You might occasionally come across a character who speaks a different language, like Blue Skies who also speaks Nimbusi (Greek), or if/when we have an adventure somewhere else in the world we might hear the local language, like with Silver's plan to go search for the Tree of Life over in Zebrica.
>>186384
Back at the Whaling Station, an oversized whale skeleton was described, as well as a journal entry that described the griffons hauling it up from the ocean to the station in order to harvest it's meat and blubber.
[Read more] Or it could involve no Diplomacy/Bluff checks. We'll have to see what GM pone decides, but something tells me the liberated thralls will quickly come to our side when the GRU starts killing them one-by-one. I think we can do it, and it's certainly the best/only plan that's been actually formulated beyond just a basic idea, and so far I haven't heard any outright criticisms or major concerns from GM pone so I'm assuming he's okay with it?
>languages
Basically if you can think of a real world language, there's probably a language for it in the setting. For languages that actually have common use in the current setting, you have Ponish (English), Feathesian (Dutch), Wechselbalg/Herzlander (German), Aquileian (French), and Severyanan (Russian). You might occasionally come across a character who speaks a different language, like Blue Skies who also speaks Nimbusi (Greek), or if/when we have an adventure somewhere else in the world we might hear the local language, like with Silver's plan to go search for the Tree of Life over in Zebrica.
>>186384
Back at the Whaling Station, an oversized whale skeleton was described, as well as a journal entry that described the griffons hauling it up from the ocean to the station in order to harvest it's meat and blubber.
>>186389
Oh, my bad. The responded-to statement seemed to imply we were walking toward such a skeleton
Oh, my bad. The responded-to statement seemed to imply we were walking toward such a skeleton
>>186390
No prob, right now we're walking towards where Kira *thinks* she detected the marines from her Survival roll.
No prob, right now we're walking towards where Kira *thinks* she detected the marines from her Survival roll.
>>186391
Was Silver able to determine what the thrall experience is like? Like, are they in some way conscious? Are they trapped in a state of madness while their body is controlled?
Was Silver able to determine what the thrall experience is like? Like, are they in some way conscious? Are they trapped in a state of madness while their body is controlled?
>>186392
While he doesn't know anything for absolutely certain, it's clear these ponies have been completely mentally dominated, with the Traveler taking full control of their bodies to speak and act through them. They're still in there, helpless and trapped in their own minds, and horrifically it's possible they might be stuck watching their bodies act without them being able to do anything about it. Certain extreme stimulations such as fear seems to be able to at least temporarily allow the pony's consciousness to "fight back" against the Traveler's influence, such as the pony that Kira constricted seemingly returning to normal during the act.
All of this is conjecture, as Silver doesn't know anything for a fact, but the evidence he's gathered seems to be leaning towards this possibility.
While he doesn't know anything for absolutely certain, it's clear these ponies have been completely mentally dominated, with the Traveler taking full control of their bodies to speak and act through them. They're still in there, helpless and trapped in their own minds, and horrifically it's possible they might be stuck watching their bodies act without them being able to do anything about it. Certain extreme stimulations such as fear seems to be able to at least temporarily allow the pony's consciousness to "fight back" against the Traveler's influence, such as the pony that Kira constricted seemingly returning to normal during the act.
All of this is conjecture, as Silver doesn't know anything for a fact, but the evidence he's gathered seems to be leaning towards this possibility.
>>186393
Thats kind of what I had imagined, a basically null state of paralysis while something else gets to decide what the body does. And it probably doesnt shut off sensory/pain perception either.
Im trying to grasp the state they're "in" and to intuit what their reaction to liberation might be
Thats kind of what I had imagined, a basically null state of paralysis while something else gets to decide what the body does. And it probably doesnt shut off sensory/pain perception either.
Im trying to grasp the state they're "in" and to intuit what their reaction to liberation might be
If GM wanted to make it super-perverse, it could be a scenario where they can still control their body "ish", but any bodily commands are forceably exerted.
For example, imagine trying to hold your hand on your chest, with muscles and tendons and ligaments, but something forces against your resistance, and now your arm is ruined. And boy do it scream with pain. And more pain, cuz the sadistic fuck whos controlling you doesnt feel the pain (or doesnt care)
For example, imagine trying to hold your hand on your chest, with muscles and tendons and ligaments, but something forces against your resistance, and now your arm is ruined. And boy do it scream with pain. And more pain, cuz the sadistic fuck whos controlling you doesnt feel the pain (or doesnt care)
>>186389
I only start with "common" (Equestrian?) + 3 languages (because 16 Int). Idk which ones I should know.
Maybe I should invest in a Helm Of Comprehend Languages... Or find a way to cast Tongues.
How many languages does Silver speak? Did you invest any skillpoints to learn more?
>so far I haven't heard any outright criticisms or major concerns from GM pone so I'm assuming he's okay with it?
That doesn't mean it will work.
>>186393
>Certain extreme stimulations such as fear seems to be able to at least temporarily allow the pony's consciousness to "fight back
Fear is Posey's specialty, especially in the context of breaking chains of enemy command.
I only start with "common" (Equestrian?) + 3 languages (because 16 Int). Idk which ones I should know.
Maybe I should invest in a Helm Of Comprehend Languages... Or find a way to cast Tongues.
How many languages does Silver speak? Did you invest any skillpoints to learn more?
>so far I haven't heard any outright criticisms or major concerns from GM pone so I'm assuming he's okay with it?
That doesn't mean it will work.
>>186393
>Certain extreme stimulations such as fear seems to be able to at least temporarily allow the pony's consciousness to "fight back
Fear is Posey's specialty, especially in the context of breaking chains of enemy command.
>>186400
>You can animate skeletons now?
No. Posey can't do that until she reaches lvl 8 (so probably never...), but she has a scroll of deathmaster Animate Dead, part of which she used to animate that zebra jenny at the beginning of the game. It had "enough to make six friends" (up to 12 HD). I think considering the stakes of this battle now would be a good time to use it.
Also, I would get to use those leviathan bones, and I would feel very validated as a Necromancer getting to do actually necromancy in a meaningful context for the first time in this game.
>>>186382
The downside of this involves the operatives also hearing it and beelining for the Kostroma, or sinking it if it looks to be sailing away.
Yeah, I really don't think we're equipped for naval battle.
>You also get a native language if Equestrian is not your native language
What language counts as Native to the Dread League? Can I take Abyssal (Hebrew) or Infernal (Sanskrit) as one of those languages?
[Read more] >You can animate skeletons now?
No. Posey can't do that until she reaches lvl 8 (so probably never...), but she has a scroll of deathmaster Animate Dead, part of which she used to animate that zebra jenny at the beginning of the game. It had "enough to make six friends" (up to 12 HD). I think considering the stakes of this battle now would be a good time to use it.
Also, I would get to use those leviathan bones, and I would feel very validated as a Necromancer getting to do actually necromancy in a meaningful context for the first time in this game.
>>>186382
The downside of this involves the operatives also hearing it and beelining for the Kostroma, or sinking it if it looks to be sailing away.
Yeah, I really don't think we're equipped for naval battle.
>You also get a native language if Equestrian is not your native language
What language counts as Native to the Dread League? Can I take Abyssal (Hebrew) or Infernal (Sanskrit) as one of those languages?
Are we doing things this weekend?
I'm going to have next week off
I'm going to have next week off
https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/prestigeCChamp/fistOfTheForest.html
Fist of the Forest is a great prestige class for Multiclass barbarian/monks.
It's also only 3 levels long, so you can easily fit it in any build.
Fist of the Forest is a great prestige class for Multiclass barbarian/monks.
It's also only 3 levels long, so you can easily fit it in any build.
>>186396
>Fear is Posey's specialty, especially in the context of breaking chains of enemy command
Hold up a second, maybe theres something here thats been overlooked. Perhaps we might stop a moment with one of the thralls and Posey could try scaring the gay out of it
>Fear is Posey's specialty, especially in the context of breaking chains of enemy command
Hold up a second, maybe theres something here thats been overlooked. Perhaps we might stop a moment with one of the thralls and Posey could try scaring the gay out of it
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I know I argued against splitting the party earlier, but I would really like for Posey to run off alone and do spooky necromancy stuff while the party saves the marines. I believe that my plan may be pivotal in helping us defeat the Traveller and evade the Special Forces.
Posey can cover ground more quickly than most creatures can due to being able to run indefinitely (double-hustle).
Since the floating disk is tied to Posey, I would like to take the enthralled prisoner with me to test a tactic to break the Traveller's mind control, a tactic that is rather ugly and best done away from the good-aligned party members.
Posey can cover ground more quickly than most creatures can due to being able to run indefinitely (double-hustle).
Since the floating disk is tied to Posey, I would like to take the enthralled prisoner with me to test a tactic to break the Traveller's mind control, a tactic that is rather ugly and best done away from the good-aligned party members.
I will accept the consequences if Posey runs into an encounter alone while racing to the leviathan skeleton.
Lacey's newly minted CM (tks Dark Star's player <3)
>>186408
You can sneak away one of the captives if you want. If other PCs spot you they may raise some questions. Getting away from the island on skeletons is not viable in my opinion. Sending a signal for seaplanes to arrive and using dinghies to reach them is conventional but likely to work.
You can sneak away one of the captives if you want. If other PCs spot you they may raise some questions. Getting away from the island on skeletons is not viable in my opinion. Sending a signal for seaplanes to arrive and using dinghies to reach them is conventional but likely to work.
>>186415
Something Brie would like to try:
Improved feint (cause flat-foot) is a move action.
Attacking defensively (+3 ac) is part of a single-strike standard-action.
If Brie did an improved feint as his move action, could his standard action be a not-full-dodge, but comparable to fighting defensively? No attacks, but +3 ac and causing flat foot depending on bluff/perception?
Pleeeeeease? :3
Something Brie would like to try:
Improved feint (cause flat-foot) is a move action.
Attacking defensively (+3 ac) is part of a single-strike standard-action.
If Brie did an improved feint as his move action, could his standard action be a not-full-dodge, but comparable to fighting defensively? No attacks, but +3 ac and causing flat foot depending on bluff/perception?
Pleeeeeease? :3
>>186420
Note, the flat foot comes on Brie's next attact at that opponent, on principle that the deceptive nature of the bluff would prevent the opponent from realize when the attact comes
Note, the flat foot comes on Brie's next attact at that opponent, on principle that the deceptive nature of the bluff would prevent the opponent from realize when the attact comes
I was reading Frostfell looking for a creatable monster for my plans, and I remembered they had Golden Compass armored polar bears there.
Would make great stats for the polar bear nation:
https://equestriaatwar.wiki.gg/wiki/Polar_Bear_Communities
Would make great stats for the polar bear nation:
https://equestriaatwar.wiki.gg/wiki/Polar_Bear_Communities
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Frostburn has a lot of great monsters. I'm partial to the aberrant ice dolphin thingy.
I have this statblock for a Huge sized advanced Bone Lurker, based on the one that the demon made for me from the hydra bones. It doesn't have as much HP as the demon's, but it's as good as Posey could possibly make with her scroll.
Hone Kujira (advanced Bone Lurker)
Huge Undead
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Initiative: +3
AC: 13 (-2 size, -1 Dex, +6 natural), touch 7, flat-footed 14
Hit Dice: 9d12 (68 HP)
Fort +3, Ref +3, Will +6
Speed: 20 ft., fly 30 ft. (poor)
Space: 5 ft. by 15 ft./15 ft.
Base Attack +4; Grapple +22
Attack: slam +12 melee
Damage: Slam 2d6+15
Special Attacks/Actions: Constrict 2d6+15, improved grab, paralysis
Abilities: Str 30, Dex 8, Con -, Int -, Wis 10, Cha 11
Special Qualities: Immunities, undead traits
Feats: Improved Initiative
Skills: -
Constrict (Ex): Hone Kujira deals 2d6+15 points of damage with a successful grapple check.
Improved Grab (Ex): If Hone Kujira hits an opponent that is at least one size category smaller than itself with its slam attack, it deals normal damage and attempts to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity (grapple bonus +21). Hone Kujira has the option to conduct the grapple normally, or simply use its body to hold the opponent. Either way, each successful grapple check it makes during successive rounds automatically deals slam damage and constrict damage.
Paralysis (Ex): Any creature hit by Hone Kujira's slam attack must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC 14) or be paralyzed for 1d6+2 minutes.
Immunities (Ex): Hone Kujira has cold immunity. Because it lacks flesh or internal organs, it takes only half damage from piercing or slashing weapons.
(This should probably be corrected to DR 5/bludgeoning)
Hone Kujira attacks by dropping onto its prey and wrapping itself around its victim. Dropping down in this fashion is considered a charge attack from higher ground. If Hone Kujira misses its initial attack, it often flies up and tries to drop on the opponent again.
https://www.realmshelps.net/monsters/block/Bone_Lurker%7Calpha%7CAll%7CUndead
[Read more] Hone Kujira (advanced Bone Lurker)
Huge Undead
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Initiative: +3
AC: 13 (-2 size, -1 Dex, +6 natural), touch 7, flat-footed 14
Hit Dice: 9d12 (68 HP)
Fort +3, Ref +3, Will +6
Speed: 20 ft., fly 30 ft. (poor)
Space: 5 ft. by 15 ft./15 ft.
Base Attack +4; Grapple +22
Attack: slam +12 melee
Damage: Slam 2d6+15
Special Attacks/Actions: Constrict 2d6+15, improved grab, paralysis
Abilities: Str 30, Dex 8, Con -, Int -, Wis 10, Cha 11
Special Qualities: Immunities, undead traits
Feats: Improved Initiative
Skills: -
Constrict (Ex): Hone Kujira deals 2d6+15 points of damage with a successful grapple check.
Improved Grab (Ex): If Hone Kujira hits an opponent that is at least one size category smaller than itself with its slam attack, it deals normal damage and attempts to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity (grapple bonus +21). Hone Kujira has the option to conduct the grapple normally, or simply use its body to hold the opponent. Either way, each successful grapple check it makes during successive rounds automatically deals slam damage and constrict damage.
Paralysis (Ex): Any creature hit by Hone Kujira's slam attack must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC 14) or be paralyzed for 1d6+2 minutes.
Immunities (Ex): Hone Kujira has cold immunity. Because it lacks flesh or internal organs, it takes only half damage from piercing or slashing weapons.
(This should probably be corrected to DR 5/bludgeoning)
Hone Kujira attacks by dropping onto its prey and wrapping itself around its victim. Dropping down in this fashion is considered a charge attack from higher ground. If Hone Kujira misses its initial attack, it often flies up and tries to drop on the opponent again.
https://www.realmshelps.net/monsters/block/Bone_Lurker%7Calpha%7CAll%7CUndead
>>186442
So, I'm not here to poop on people's parades, I like being able to do cool stuff with my characters, but...I'm not sure riding a huge flying whale skeleton is exactly the most subtle way to get to the Kostroma. Like, we were worried enough already about Brie or Garv flying and getting shot out of the air.
Also, how does it fly?
So, I'm not here to poop on people's parades, I like being able to do cool stuff with my characters, but...I'm not sure riding a huge flying whale skeleton is exactly the most subtle way to get to the Kostroma. Like, we were worried enough already about Brie or Garv flying and getting shot out of the air.
Also, how does it fly?
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