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>>185335
>what the french would call.... Les incompétents.
Pffft, Home Alone. Try something hard. Kidding/references aside, I agree. I understanf GM not wanting to.make it a minis-stratego hybrid, but flanking in 3.5e depends on 2 people being on opposite sides of an adversary, and I am okay with oekaki drawings of it will enable.me to better visualize what GM is trying to describe.
And its not to begrudge the descriptions, its that I dont want to have to ask questions that will delay progress
>what the french would call.... Les incompétents.
Pffft, Home Alone. Try something hard. Kidding/references aside, I agree. I understanf GM not wanting to.make it a minis-stratego hybrid, but flanking in 3.5e depends on 2 people being on opposite sides of an adversary, and I am okay with oekaki drawings of it will enable.me to better visualize what GM is trying to describe.
And its not to begrudge the descriptions, its that I dont want to have to ask questions that will delay progress
Final note to gm:
Im coming from the COMMODORE 64 text-based rpg days. I aint asking for fancy. Letters on a grid works fine for me
Im coming from the COMMODORE 64 text-based rpg days. I aint asking for fancy. Letters on a grid works fine for me
Just let the record reflect that Posey, and probably other players, want to fight less Ettins and outsiders
>>185345
No, I'm fine with fighting monsters. I would just also like rewards for doing so.
Also, corpses are fun
No, I'm fine with fighting monsters. I would just also like rewards for doing so.
Also, corpses are fun
>>185347
This. We might be able to arrange for a long rest, which is game changing for us AND GM in planning/story
This. We might be able to arrange for a long rest, which is game changing for us AND GM in planning/story
>>185347
Is whatever is on the equine enemies, plus whatever is on the ship, plus whatever can be wrangled out of the quest giver, plus the artifact and other objects already found, not enough?
Is whatever is on the equine enemies, plus whatever is on the ship, plus whatever can be wrangled out of the quest giver, plus the artifact and other objects already found, not enough?
>>185352
I just hope we get good rewards later. We won't know until the quest is finished, ergo time will tell.
I just hope we get good rewards later. We won't know until the quest is finished, ergo time will tell.
>>185354
The thing about GMs is, you dont always have to get the amazon overnight on your rewards. Sometimes they come in the form of well-stocked and permissive vendors
Let him cook
The thing about GMs is, you dont always have to get the amazon overnight on your rewards. Sometimes they come in the form of well-stocked and permissive vendors
Let him cook
I think people are misinterpreting my words as complaints. I'm fine with how things are going.
>>185320
Okay, so before this kicks off into a whole 'nother thing and derails the entire thread and game for another week, I'm just gonna come out and say stuff in my usual diplomatic way to hopefully help speed along the recovery process. GM pone is a bit upset with this post, he had a lot of cool stuff and encounters planned for this mission and I think saying you agreed with shortening the whole thing really made him sad and not want to continue today. Something tells me you don't actually want the whole thing shortened, so far the way Posey's been played it seems like you crave the challenge of combat and getting the chance to show off what Posey can do. My guess is that you just want to be able to level up so you can do cool necromancy stuff, and also maybe some money so you can buy and decorate your own personal lair.
Anyways, just coming out and saying it because I don't want this to spiral into another big issue and this is one of those situations where I think both parties just need to know what's actually going on to be able to talk and fix the problem.
Okay, so before this kicks off into a whole 'nother thing and derails the entire thread and game for another week, I'm just gonna come out and say stuff in my usual diplomatic way to hopefully help speed along the recovery process. GM pone is a bit upset with this post, he had a lot of cool stuff and encounters planned for this mission and I think saying you agreed with shortening the whole thing really made him sad and not want to continue today. Something tells me you don't actually want the whole thing shortened, so far the way Posey's been played it seems like you crave the challenge of combat and getting the chance to show off what Posey can do. My guess is that you just want to be able to level up so you can do cool necromancy stuff, and also maybe some money so you can buy and decorate your own personal lair.
Anyways, just coming out and saying it because I don't want this to spiral into another big issue and this is one of those situations where I think both parties just need to know what's actually going on to be able to talk and fix the problem.
>>185335
Agreed, a little detail goes a long way.
>>185377
The pacing so far is great and I'm sad that he's upset by apparent dissatisfaction. I think the players are just frustrated from a combination of factors including the specificity of the camera (I know the GM controlled Brie according to how he thought Brie would want to act, but the onus is still on him for neglecting the camera like everypony else), the loot not being flashy for a natural 20 (seems unfair but we're among a ragtag group in a long-ransacked village, but he could've gotten a grenade or something), and running low on resources (personally I like the attrition aspects and loot will be available elsewhere). Saying stuff we don't mean because of this frustration can throw off an attitude of ingratitude.
Agreed, a little detail goes a long way.
>>185377
The pacing so far is great and I'm sad that he's upset by apparent dissatisfaction. I think the players are just frustrated from a combination of factors including the specificity of the camera (I know the GM controlled Brie according to how he thought Brie would want to act, but the onus is still on him for neglecting the camera like everypony else), the loot not being flashy for a natural 20 (seems unfair but we're among a ragtag group in a long-ransacked village, but he could've gotten a grenade or something), and running low on resources (personally I like the attrition aspects and loot will be available elsewhere). Saying stuff we don't mean because of this frustration can throw off an attitude of ingratitude.
>>185377
Allow me to paraphrase. I speak for no one.
GM pone is more than upset with this post. Not only did it cast doubt onto what GM had going with player, it soiled his interest in involving with other players.
Having dkne simimlar and having length-ly addressed the causes and motiviations behind it - and explained to GM the etymology and everything including how not in future - allow me to suggest it in this case
Allow me to paraphrase. I speak for no one.
GM pone is more than upset with this post. Not only did it cast doubt onto what GM had going with player, it soiled his interest in involving with other players.
Having dkne simimlar and having length-ly addressed the causes and motiviations behind it - and explained to GM the etymology and everything including how not in future - allow me to suggest it in this case
Let me be clear. Im angry.
Im angry cuz Im not playing because of someone else. I threw alot of ahitfits, but I dont reca stalling the game.
Im angry cuz Im not playing because of someone else. I threw alot of ahitfits, but I dont reca stalling the game.
>>185380
>you stalled yesterday lol
[I]I fell asleep waiting to play cuz of the ame bullshit fucking distractions we've seen all.day!! Ask mr how I know! Its not rocket science, its diversionary awareness tactics. The question is whether its malicious or not.
>you stalled yesterday lol
[I]I fell asleep waiting to play cuz of the ame bullshit fucking distractions we've seen all.day!! Ask mr how I know! Its not rocket science, its diversionary awareness tactics. The question is whether its malicious or not.
Funny, the one player reaponsible for upsetti g the GM isnt present. Fucking convenient. After getting hours of direct dialogue.
>>185385
Again, not enabling. There's nothing enabling about explaining what the problem is to someone who might not even know there is a problem. We're all autistic here to at least some degree, and we all have problems at times picking up on the subtle social cues when there's an issue. When one crops up, the first and most important step in to solving a problem in the group is to ensure clear communication of the issue at hand, that way steps can be taken to fix it without it blowing up in our faces (again).
Again, not enabling. There's nothing enabling about explaining what the problem is to someone who might not even know there is a problem. We're all autistic here to at least some degree, and we all have problems at times picking up on the subtle social cues when there's an issue. When one crops up, the first and most important step in to solving a problem in the group is to ensure clear communication of the issue at hand, that way steps can be taken to fix it without it blowing up in our faces (again).
>>185386
But the problem te ds to supercede the precious
And the previous involves other players expressing their character intent
In so doing, one player can supercede the game
But the problem te ds to supercede the precious
And the previous involves other players expressing their character intent
In so doing, one player can supercede the game
>>185384
Well for one, he did say he's sick so we gotta cut him some slack for not being here kinda like I'm about to cut myself some slack for being sick and go to bed.
However, this is another stupid argument that we're gonna end up stalling the game even longer over. Kinda like every argument that ends up happening in this thread, but also I'm of the belief at this point that there is no thing as a good faith argument on the internet so maybe that skews my perception a bit.
Regardless, you got your honesty and you called it enabling.
Well for one, he did say he's sick so we gotta cut him some slack for not being here kinda like I'm about to cut myself some slack for being sick and go to bed.
However, this is another stupid argument that we're gonna end up stalling the game even longer over. Kinda like every argument that ends up happening in this thread, but also I'm of the belief at this point that there is no thing as a good faith argument on the internet so maybe that skews my perception a bit.
Regardless, you got your honesty and you called it enabling.
>>185389
>we gott cut slack
No. If bruh wanted slack, he coulda cut out early. Nah, he done. Fucknoff witb the "dindu" shit
>we gott cut slack
No. If bruh wanted slack, he coulda cut out early. Nah, he done. Fucknoff witb the "dindu" shit
>>185390
I'm not saying he didn't do anything you troglodyte. It's obvious he's said something that's offended GM whether intentionally or unintentionally, and I think everyone can acknowledge that. What I'm saying is you're getting all in a stink because he isn't here to 1v1 you because he's probably asleep is in bad faith. I get that you're pissed, and I'm sure this definitely won't be the last time we hear that you are, but holy shit calm down for once instead of making a tonne of rambling posts for fucks sake
I'm not saying he didn't do anything you troglodyte. It's obvious he's said something that's offended GM whether intentionally or unintentionally, and I think everyone can acknowledge that. What I'm saying is you're getting all in a stink because he isn't here to 1v1 you because he's probably asleep is in bad faith. I get that you're pissed, and I'm sure this definitely won't be the last time we hear that you are, but holy shit calm down for once instead of making a tonne of rambling posts for fucks sake
>>185392
>i'm not saying he didn't do anything you troglodyte. It's obvious he's said something that's offended GM whether intentionally or unintentionally, and I think everyone can acknowledge that. What I'm saying is you're getting all in a stink because he isn't here to 1v1 you because he's probably asleep is in bad faith. I get that you're pissed, and I'm sure this definitely won't be the last time we hear that you are, but holy shit calm down for once instead of making a tonne of rambling posts for fucks sake
You dont get it it. Its not that he feels entitled to belanor GM, its everyone else by proxy
>i'm not saying he didn't do anything you troglodyte. It's obvious he's said something that's offended GM whether intentionally or unintentionally, and I think everyone can acknowledge that. What I'm saying is you're getting all in a stink because he isn't here to 1v1 you because he's probably asleep is in bad faith. I get that you're pissed, and I'm sure this definitely won't be the last time we hear that you are, but holy shit calm down for once instead of making a tonne of rambling posts for fucks sake
You dont get it it. Its not that he feels entitled to belanor GM, its everyone else by proxy
>>185394
Really enjoying all the twenty dollar words. Mr. Grif said he couldn't even play tonight anyways, I don't think there really was an intention to play even if it wasn't for Posey. It's a Sunday night, and I know I at least have places to be tomorrow and I doubt I'm the only one.
Now I'm going to bed, and I suggest everyone do the same
Really enjoying all the twenty dollar words. Mr. Grif said he couldn't even play tonight anyways, I don't think there really was an intention to play even if it wasn't for Posey. It's a Sunday night, and I know I at least have places to be tomorrow and I doubt I'm the only one.
Now I'm going to bed, and I suggest everyone do the same
>>185396
I can play and I had later said I could. That said, I don't feel well either so staying up wouldn't be a wise decision.
Goodnight.
I can play and I had later said I could. That said, I don't feel well either so staying up wouldn't be a wise decision.
Goodnight.
>>185397
My apologies, I must have missed that message. I just remember the one where you said you wanted to do combat tonight cause you couldn't play tomorrow. I suppose I have made the boob of myself.
Good night, I hope you feel better than I do.
My apologies, I must have missed that message. I just remember the one where you said you wanted to do combat tonight cause you couldn't play tomorrow. I suppose I have made the boob of myself.
Good night, I hope you feel better than I do.
>>185396
>really enjoying all the $20 words
Really? Are you enjoying the .20c excuses? Are you enjoying where some players bombard GM with shite and then fuck off when theyve had their fun? Cuz thats what just happened. One player got all the attention, pissed off GM and fucked off leaving everyone with their thumb up their asses.
>really enjoying all the $20 words
Really? Are you enjoying the .20c excuses? Are you enjoying where some players bombard GM with shite and then fuck off when theyve had their fun? Cuz thats what just happened. One player got all the attention, pissed off GM and fucked off leaving everyone with their thumb up their asses.
[1d20+17 = (9+17) = 26]
Gm knows
Gm knows
While I have y'all's undivided attention, anyone care to take a guess what the operating issue here is? Anyone? You? No?
Addiction.
The game - especially for GM - is EXTREMELY dopamine-generating. Its Dope addiction.
Addiction.
The game - especially for GM - is EXTREMELY dopamine-generating. Its Dope addiction.
>>185423
You're fine, just working out some kinks.
Btw, to answer your earlier question about how mares are desirable (adorable, sexy, ???) the answer lies in the attributes of the 3 fates
1 is young, vibrant and innocent. 2 is older, developed and sexy, and the last,....
You're fine, just working out some kinks.
Btw, to answer your earlier question about how mares are desirable (adorable, sexy, ???) the answer lies in the attributes of the 3 fates
1 is young, vibrant and innocent. 2 is older, developed and sexy, and the last,....
>>185426
No, not really. Besides the comment about my exceptional faggotry. Duh, have you seen stallions? Especially that Thunderlane fella.
No, not really. Besides the comment about my exceptional faggotry. Duh, have you seen stallions? Especially that Thunderlane fella.
We were playing last night? I said I couldn't stay up late. I thought I gave permission to RP without me. I'm sick, sicker than usual.
>>185430
Sadly, no. I gave an explanation last night after you went to bed, and since then it's just been the usual.
Sadly, no. I gave an explanation last night after you went to bed, and since then it's just been the usual.
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>>185432
I would put Lacey/Lucky as pure sex appeal,... but the idea is the daughter, the woman, the mother
I would put Lacey/Lucky as pure sex appeal,... but the idea is the daughter, the woman, the mother
So then, to start things off, let me describe what it APPEARED happened last night. I'll be assessing my perspective and what I intuit to be GM's.
Friday, we didnt play. Why? By his admission, because Posey got distracted until another player had to leave.
Saturday is entirely on me with one exception: when the group cant play, its kinda fucked up to play with your side characters, cuz that only delays when we can play. I fell asleep waiting for initiative, and better believe Id have gotten a shot of adrenaline if it had happened.
In any case, in the aftermath of combat GM prompts me to do a search and I get a nat 20.
Gm says "Ill go over this tomorrow".
Now, I wont say I didnt post plenty; it would be inconsistent of me to NOT at this point. But in the early afternoon when all players declarrd availablility except for Posey, it was determined that since Posey couldnt play later that they could rp and do stuff during the afternoon. And so he and Silver got catered to for hours, virtually without interruption, while everyone else waited for GM to finish with you and then continue.
After all. it was fine playing without me, right? Right!
But then, at the end, the ONE time GM says "no" specific to the camera and potential loot, Posey decides to cop an ungreatful and contemptible posture about not getting enough, what GM has struggled to present is whatever and disposable, and basically sour GM's experience sp that no one got to play.
Now, from MY perspective, its ALMOST like Posey was okay with me not playing, but wouldnt suffer NOT playing.
Meanwhile, GM who has dealt with the most incredible group of autistic assholes ever, bending over backwards and inside and out to try and be both reasonable but also firm. As I said, DnD is a hell of a drug. Theres so much neuro chemistey going on, its incomparable really. But its an intensive labor. To do that WHILE tard wrangling for the last month (that Ive been party to) while juggling real life and everything and then have the player youre trying expressly to please for hours basically spit in your face,... yeah. I think he held it together better than I would.
Friday, we didnt play. Why? By his admission, because Posey got distracted until another player had to leave.
Saturday is entirely on me with one exception: when the group cant play, its kinda fucked up to play with your side characters, cuz that only delays when we can play. I fell asleep waiting for initiative, and better believe Id have gotten a shot of adrenaline if it had happened.
In any case, in the aftermath of combat GM prompts me to do a search and I get a nat 20.
Gm says "Ill go over this tomorrow".
Now, I wont say I didnt post plenty; it would be inconsistent of me to NOT at this point. But in the early afternoon when all players declarrd availablility except for Posey, it was determined that since Posey couldnt play later that they could rp and do stuff during the afternoon. And so he and Silver got catered to for hours, virtually without interruption, while everyone else waited for GM to finish with you and then continue.
After all. it was fine playing without me, right? Right!
But then, at the end, the ONE time GM says "no" specific to the camera and potential loot, Posey decides to cop an ungreatful and contemptible posture about not getting enough, what GM has struggled to present is whatever and disposable, and basically sour GM's experience sp that no one got to play.
Now, from MY perspective, its ALMOST like Posey was okay with me not playing, but wouldnt suffer NOT playing.
Meanwhile, GM who has dealt with the most incredible group of autistic assholes ever, bending over backwards and inside and out to try and be both reasonable but also firm. As I said, DnD is a hell of a drug. Theres so much neuro chemistey going on, its incomparable really. But its an intensive labor. To do that WHILE tard wrangling for the last month (that Ive been party to) while juggling real life and everything and then have the player youre trying expressly to please for hours basically spit in your face,... yeah. I think he held it together better than I would.
In conclusion:
Was it malice? Honestly, probably not. I want to think so sure, but no its probable that it was just blatant disregard and a lack of consideration for GM, and the other players. After all, if it was important for GM to at LEAST feel validated, then one might think he would be if so minimally as to not shit in his cereal after he has just presented you with bowl after bowl after bowl.
P.S. Why isnt Stix playing?
Was it malice? Honestly, probably not. I want to think so sure, but no its probable that it was just blatant disregard and a lack of consideration for GM, and the other players. After all, if it was important for GM to at LEAST feel validated, then one might think he would be if so minimally as to not shit in his cereal after he has just presented you with bowl after bowl after bowl.
P.S. Why isnt Stix playing?
Now, Im omitting a whole lot of past data that paints a MUCH less appetizing picture, and which removes any question of a pattern,... but we dont need to go there do we?
I was being honest about not being able to doxx, but dont forget how long Ive been paying attention, and how many behaviors a ive seen some of you display. Its still archived in all these threads. ^,_,~
I was being honest about not being able to doxx, but dont forget how long Ive been paying attention, and how many behaviors a ive seen some of you display. Its still archived in all these threads. ^,_,~
>>185436
>patterns
The only pattern I've noticed is you killing two outta two of my campaigns with this same whining about other players, but hey what do I know.
>patterns
The only pattern I've noticed is you killing two outta two of my campaigns with this same whining about other players, but hey what do I know.
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>>185425
>What does Vir look like by the way?
One day I might be able to draw her for you but as of right now I can only describe her. I might do that later. In short Didn't get short anyway. ^^ she's a bigger than average mare with concentrated muscles on her body. Big trunk. *blush* White fur and wine-gummy (at least I think it was) mane and tail which had golden metal bars used as hairbands for many small bums. Wears tan cloak with two depictions of Celestia's cutie mark, one on the hood and one on the back.
>What does Vir look like by the way?
One day I might be able to draw her for you but as of right now I can only describe her. I might do that later. In short Didn't get short anyway. ^^ she's a bigger than average mare with concentrated muscles on her body. Big trunk. *blush* White fur and wine-gummy (at least I think it was) mane and tail which had golden metal bars used as hairbands for many small bums. Wears tan cloak with two depictions of Celestia's cutie mark, one on the hood and one on the back.
>>185434
>>185435
>>185436
>>185437
Pointing fingers and causing drama is the LAST thing anypony needs, especially the GM Pone.
Unfortunately he is the only one who should be digging into all of this, but it slows the game down more than anything (much more than sudden naps and playing with side characters!)
>Meanwhile, GM who has dealt with the most incredible group of autistic assholes ever, bending over backwards and inside and out to try and be both reasonable but also firm.
Frankly, I don't know how he does it.
>>185438
Very cute! Is her cutie mark a human nun on fire?
If you want to visualize her easily you can look up GeneralZhoi's pony creator. It was used to make references for Amber Sunset and Dark Star.
>>185435
>>185436
>>185437
Pointing fingers and causing drama is the LAST thing anypony needs, especially the GM Pone.
Unfortunately he is the only one who should be digging into all of this, but it slows the game down more than anything (much more than sudden naps and playing with side characters!)
>Meanwhile, GM who has dealt with the most incredible group of autistic assholes ever, bending over backwards and inside and out to try and be both reasonable but also firm.
Frankly, I don't know how he does it.
>>185438
Very cute! Is her cutie mark a human nun on fire?
If you want to visualize her easily you can look up GeneralZhoi's pony creator. It was used to make references for Amber Sunset and Dark Star.
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>>185439
>2
Eberron and,....
Or are you talking Kaverns and Kobolds and Red... what was it....
Hard to pin you with 3 posts, but I'll speak to any/all.
Oh, wait, we're not talking about history.
>2
Eberron and,....
Or are you talking Kaverns and Kobolds and Red... what was it....
Hard to pin you with 3 posts, but I'll speak to any/all.
Oh, wait, we're not talking about history.
>>185443
Lets see,... the green haired gunslinger (name escapes) and Sonata Deline (So Not Adeline), a preliminary monk build with Addy's developing personality (still 'new') and Arizona's visuals.
I liked the Eberron campaign, and I observed an inherent desire to extend a,... not fatherly or brotherly,... but idk uncle-y (not the creepy uncle) way to the alchemist girl. I was sad when B3w8 decided to fuck the party fighting a brass dragon cuz there might have been loot. Huh, sounds familiar.
Lets see,... the green haired gunslinger (name escapes) and Sonata Deline (So Not Adeline), a preliminary monk build with Addy's developing personality (still 'new') and Arizona's visuals.
I liked the Eberron campaign, and I observed an inherent desire to extend a,... not fatherly or brotherly,... but idk uncle-y (not the creepy uncle) way to the alchemist girl. I was sad when B3w8 decided to fuck the party fighting a brass dragon cuz there might have been loot. Huh, sounds familiar.
>>185443
The same you're doing now. Insisting that a player was a miserable pile of it and they were why I didn't want to continue the campaign. No, I had legitimate scheduling issues at the time, but you wanted to assume malice and assume Ash's player had made me want to not run. I ended the game cause I got sick of this story and game I wanted to experience with my friends turning into a dramafest, cause that seems to be all DnD ever ends up being when I play.
Good night sir
The same you're doing now. Insisting that a player was a miserable pile of it and they were why I didn't want to continue the campaign. No, I had legitimate scheduling issues at the time, but you wanted to assume malice and assume Ash's player had made me want to not run. I ended the game cause I got sick of this story and game I wanted to experience with my friends turning into a dramafest, cause that seems to be all DnD ever ends up being when I play.
Good night sir
>>185444
>I was sad when B3w8 decided to fuck the party fighting a brass dragon cuz there might have been loot.
That's not what happened and you and I both know it. That player made a reasonable decision based on my descriptions and you quit the game on the spot over it.
>I was sad when B3w8 decided to fuck the party fighting a brass dragon cuz there might have been loot.
That's not what happened and you and I both know it. That player made a reasonable decision based on my descriptions and you quit the game on the spot over it.
>>185446
Oh, thats very much what happened. The player who spent all the game bitching about challenges and wanting to build make and do all the things, when we were facing the boss said "nah,... maybe theres loot down this hallway".
>>185445
I didnt say they were the reason you didnt want to continue, I said thats when they ruined it for me as a player, with 0 fucks to give cuz why should he? Its not like roleplaying is a shared story or anything.
Oh, thats very much what happened. The player who spent all the game bitching about challenges and wanting to build make and do all the things, when we were facing the boss said "nah,... maybe theres loot down this hallway".
>>185445
I didnt say they were the reason you didnt want to continue, I said thats when they ruined it for me as a player, with 0 fucks to give cuz why should he? Its not like roleplaying is a shared story or anything.
Your grudges are old enough to be in kindergarten. Please leave them behind you and try to take MLP's friendship lessons to heart. Give each other the benefit of the doubt instead of accusing each other of ruining the game.
Do I react u reasonably to adverse stimuli? Yes, Ive been doing it for years and Im finally (ish) getting a handle on it. Has he been ruining it for others for years?
>>185448
I want to, but my whole weekend LOOKS to have been deliberately sabotaged and I may not be the only one who feels that way
I want to, but my whole weekend LOOKS to have been deliberately sabotaged and I may not be the only one who feels that way
>>185450
If you really think it was deliberately sabotaged, you should privately tell GM Pone about it and never publicly accuse other players. This goes for meatworld games and online games. I personally don't think it was sabotaged; instead it's autistic miscommunications and longstanding grudges causing actual damage.
If you really think it was deliberately sabotaged, you should privately tell GM Pone about it and never publicly accuse other players. This goes for meatworld games and online games. I personally don't think it was sabotaged; instead it's autistic miscommunications and longstanding grudges causing actual damage.
You guys really only give the benefit of the doubt to one person in this thing, despite years' worth of counter examples. It is pretty frustrating.
>>185451
>if you really think sabotage
Do (you) think that wasnt the first thing I said?
>longstanding grudges
... come from long-unanswered abuses.
>if you really think sabotage
Do (you) think that wasnt the first thing I said?
>longstanding grudges
... come from long-unanswered abuses.
>>185456
I thought you all preferred anonymity here. Regardless, I wasn't cryptic. I am very clear. You are only showing the player Posey benefit of the doubt despite years' worth of examples that this is an actual problem. This isn't the first time this has happened, and you are pretending it is.
I thought you all preferred anonymity here. Regardless, I wasn't cryptic. I am very clear. You are only showing the player Posey benefit of the doubt despite years' worth of examples that this is an actual problem. This isn't the first time this has happened, and you are pretending it is.
>>185458
The main problem is a failure of communication. We need to learn as a group to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and not jump to the immediate worst conclusion, or this will keep happening over and over again.
The main problem is a failure of communication. We need to learn as a group to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and not jump to the immediate worst conclusion, or this will keep happening over and over again.
>>185447
I see you've made up your mind on what happened.
I will be ceding from this thread for the present future. I came to play a game, not participate in OOC arguments. If anyone specifically needs me for something serious, please let the GM pony know. Otherwise, see you in game.
I see you've made up your mind on what happened.
I will be ceding from this thread for the present future. I came to play a game, not participate in OOC arguments. If anyone specifically needs me for something serious, please let the GM pony know. Otherwise, see you in game.
>>185461
I do not care about this feigned neutrality you have going on. There is no giving everyone the benefit when there is clearly someone you are saying is innocent and one person that is going too far. Just directly say it. You think Posey is doing things fine and Brie is not. This is retarded but at least state it.
I do not care about this feigned neutrality you have going on. There is no giving everyone the benefit when there is clearly someone you are saying is innocent and one person that is going too far. Just directly say it. You think Posey is doing things fine and Brie is not. This is retarded but at least state it.
>>185466
>feigned neutrality
There's nothing feigned about it, it's a fact. We are all autistic here to some degree, we need to remember that and realize that sometimes how something appears isn't how it actually is in reality. I'm not even neutral in the matter, I made an entire post explaining to Posey's player what the issue is and how they made GM pone upset.
>>185464
>In an ideal world I would not exist
Mood...
>feigned neutrality
There's nothing feigned about it, it's a fact. We are all autistic here to some degree, we need to remember that and realize that sometimes how something appears isn't how it actually is in reality. I'm not even neutral in the matter, I made an entire post explaining to Posey's player what the issue is and how they made GM pone upset.
>>185464
>In an ideal world I would not exist
Mood...
>>185458
>despite years' worth of examples that this is an actual problem
1) This is a game and bringing in outside drama is undesirable. Speaking from my own opinion, I don't think players should be barred or lambasted for outside behavior problems as long as they genuinely try to keep them under control here. Haven't we extended this courtesy to Brie's player too?
2) I for one don't know about said examples despite being an oldfag from 2017, and I don't think you should expect others to know either. I looked up Sonata Deline and Adeline and they're characters from Ancap's campaign and Mixed Nuts, neither of which I read through. You keep bringing up tidbits of the deepest lore from those games but I don't know anything about them and I don't think GM Pone does either.
3) These games ended years ago back when Occupied Equestria was still young. I am a very different person from what I was back then and it's fair to give someone a chance to demonstrate character growth. Holding onto grudges is the opposite of that.
>>185461
Very much this.
>>185462
This, and I'm sorry you were scared away, new ID.
>>185464
I really can't tell if these are lurkers popping in or someone using a VPN.
>>185466
No, that is not the implication. GM Pone has made it clear that he doesn't want drama in his thread and if you have any concerns you should reach out to him privately. Is Posey's player doing things perfectly fine? I don't want to make that claim. Is Brie's player causing trouble now by dredging up drama? Yes, and I want it to stop.
It's not about sides. It's about keeping a healthy atmosphere around this game so new and existing players aren't scared away by all the infighting. If they're scared away we don't have a game anymore. Simple as.
>despite years' worth of examples that this is an actual problem
1) This is a game and bringing in outside drama is undesirable. Speaking from my own opinion, I don't think players should be barred or lambasted for outside behavior problems as long as they genuinely try to keep them under control here. Haven't we extended this courtesy to Brie's player too?
2) I for one don't know about said examples despite being an oldfag from 2017, and I don't think you should expect others to know either. I looked up Sonata Deline and Adeline and they're characters from Ancap's campaign and Mixed Nuts, neither of which I read through. You keep bringing up tidbits of the deepest lore from those games but I don't know anything about them and I don't think GM Pone does either.
3) These games ended years ago back when Occupied Equestria was still young. I am a very different person from what I was back then and it's fair to give someone a chance to demonstrate character growth. Holding onto grudges is the opposite of that.
>>185461
Very much this.
>>185462
This, and I'm sorry you were scared away, new ID.
>>185464
I really can't tell if these are lurkers popping in or someone using a VPN.
>>185466
No, that is not the implication. GM Pone has made it clear that he doesn't want drama in his thread and if you have any concerns you should reach out to him privately. Is Posey's player doing things perfectly fine? I don't want to make that claim. Is Brie's player causing trouble now by dredging up drama? Yes, and I want it to stop.
It's not about sides. It's about keeping a healthy atmosphere around this game so new and existing players aren't scared away by all the infighting. If they're scared away we don't have a game anymore. Simple as.
>>185468
It is feigned because you are pretending things are equal in a situation where it isn't. Posey has repeatedly done these exact things that piss people off and here you are saying that it is a failure to communicate. No. It is direct action that is causing this. You saying that it is actually everyone's fault is not correct. Yes, independent of this situation people have each done things wrong. That is irrelevant to this problem.
It is feigned because you are pretending things are equal in a situation where it isn't. Posey has repeatedly done these exact things that piss people off and here you are saying that it is a failure to communicate. No. It is direct action that is causing this. You saying that it is actually everyone's fault is not correct. Yes, independent of this situation people have each done things wrong. That is irrelevant to this problem.
>>185469
This isn't just some drama. It is game ending behavior coming from Posey that will eventually crash and burn this whole thing just as it has been known to happen before. If you can't be willing to hear this out, you deserve what is coming because this is not some shit that doesn't impact you. This will directly ruin your game, and you will be personally effected.
This isn't just some drama. It is game ending behavior coming from Posey that will eventually crash and burn this whole thing just as it has been known to happen before. If you can't be willing to hear this out, you deserve what is coming because this is not some shit that doesn't impact you. This will directly ruin your game, and you will be personally effected.
>>185464
Okay, I know how retarded it looks when I slide on a keypad by accident. I SAID 'I presented'. Ns, Os, Us, and Bs, and other letters get jumbled in when Im going fast. Im sorry, but fuck off its happening. In any case, to reiterate:
>>185462
I said what it looks like, yes.
>>185469
>undesirable drama
Agreed, but it persists, and WHY it persists is because the potentiating behaviors persist. Like last night
>courtesy to Brie's player
Brie's player is on record with GM as to what he has going on. Do u wanna know?
>oldfag c'2017
It was happening, if you missed it
>Sonata, Adeline
Yep, thats them. Good times, mostly.
>Im a different person than then
Ill come back to this one
>idk if these are lurkers
That was me while at walmart
>dredging up drama
Oh, no dredging, its just been underfoot where people have kept it
Okay, I know how retarded it looks when I slide on a keypad by accident. I SAID 'I presented'. Ns, Os, Us, and Bs, and other letters get jumbled in when Im going fast. Im sorry, but fuck off its happening. In any case, to reiterate:
>>185462
I said what it looks like, yes.
>>185469
>undesirable drama
Agreed, but it persists, and WHY it persists is because the potentiating behaviors persist. Like last night
>courtesy to Brie's player
Brie's player is on record with GM as to what he has going on. Do u wanna know?
>oldfag c'2017
It was happening, if you missed it
>Sonata, Adeline
Yep, thats them. Good times, mostly.
>Im a different person than then
Ill come back to this one
>idk if these are lurkers
That was me while at walmart
>dredging up drama
Oh, no dredging, its just been underfoot where people have kept it
>Im not the same person
A particular favorite, and very cliche. Andrew Tate is slinging this one after hundreds of millions in casinos and wecam whores. Everyone wants to have changed after they did the deed.
But they did! And Diddy did. But, the point here is that youre never a different person from then. You may want to think it, you can argue its not true on a cellular-regenerative level, but you're always a later version.
>but that version is different
Yours may be, his doesnt appear so
A particular favorite, and very cliche. Andrew Tate is slinging this one after hundreds of millions in casinos and wecam whores. Everyone wants to have changed after they did the deed.
But they did! And Diddy did. But, the point here is that youre never a different person from then. You may want to think it, you can argue its not true on a cellular-regenerative level, but you're always a later version.
>but that version is different
Yours may be, his doesnt appear so
>>185470
>>185471
Then why don't you write up a list of specific and documented examples to send to GM Pone by private means, instead of playing Town of Salem in the OOC thread? My argument (and presumably Silver's player's) has never been "stick your head in the sand" but instead "don't muddy up our game with public accusations and attacks."
We probably won't get any more progress on the game tonight because of this unfortunately, because having to deal with a thread full of drama usually gets GM Pone out of the mood. What you're doing is personally affecting me too, so don't expect me to be sympathetic. I also can't help but suspect you of being Brie's player with a VPN, considering >>185464 is his post with a different ID.
>>185472
>WHY it persists is because the potentiating behaviors persist. Like last night
Last night had several players complaining, including yourself, with Posey's player's post just being the most grating. I don't consider it a malicious or manipulative post because Posey's player has always been open about favoring loot and fast progression over atmosphere, which is at odds with the GM Pone's view of the campaign. The way it was worded just made it seem dismissive which was a disappointment to him.
>Brie's player is on record with GM as to what he has going on. Do u wanna know?
No because I don't want this information to be public.
>That was me while at walmart
That answers that.
>Oh, no dredging, its just been underfoot where people have kept it
Yes, it's better underfoot than overt because nothing good can come of these arguments. Your assumption of malice and citing of grudges against Posey's player won't end because it's apparent your end goal is to get him kicked from the game. GM Pone clearly doesn't want that and if you're in private correspondence with him then your evidence isn't strong enough to convince him. By starting public drama you're either trying to force Posey's player into defending himself (which makes the drama worse) or to manipulate the other players against him. I oppose what you're doing.
I will leave it at that because this entire argument will be deleted which is the best thing GM Pone could do in these circumstances. I was looking forward to a possible session but I hope you're happy with yourself for ruining that chance.
>>185471
Then why don't you write up a list of specific and documented examples to send to GM Pone by private means, instead of playing Town of Salem in the OOC thread? My argument (and presumably Silver's player's) has never been "stick your head in the sand" but instead "don't muddy up our game with public accusations and attacks."
We probably won't get any more progress on the game tonight because of this unfortunately, because having to deal with a thread full of drama usually gets GM Pone out of the mood. What you're doing is personally affecting me too, so don't expect me to be sympathetic. I also can't help but suspect you of being Brie's player with a VPN, considering >>185464 is his post with a different ID.
>>185472
>WHY it persists is because the potentiating behaviors persist. Like last night
Last night had several players complaining, including yourself, with Posey's player's post just being the most grating. I don't consider it a malicious or manipulative post because Posey's player has always been open about favoring loot and fast progression over atmosphere, which is at odds with the GM Pone's view of the campaign. The way it was worded just made it seem dismissive which was a disappointment to him.
>Brie's player is on record with GM as to what he has going on. Do u wanna know?
No because I don't want this information to be public.
>That was me while at walmart
That answers that.
>Oh, no dredging, its just been underfoot where people have kept it
Yes, it's better underfoot than overt because nothing good can come of these arguments. Your assumption of malice and citing of grudges against Posey's player won't end because it's apparent your end goal is to get him kicked from the game. GM Pone clearly doesn't want that and if you're in private correspondence with him then your evidence isn't strong enough to convince him. By starting public drama you're either trying to force Posey's player into defending himself (which makes the drama worse) or to manipulate the other players against him. I oppose what you're doing.
I will leave it at that because this entire argument will be deleted which is the best thing GM Pone could do in these circumstances. I was looking forward to a possible session but I hope you're happy with yourself for ruining that chance.
>>185476
>better underfoot
Thats been the problem the whole time. Unaddressed shit, and pretending to be nice and all so all could keep playing. Would that it could have, but Posey picked the wrong nigger. Here we are
>better underfoot
Thats been the problem the whole time. Unaddressed shit, and pretending to be nice and all so all could keep playing. Would that it could have, but Posey picked the wrong nigger. Here we are
>>185427
>>185429
Are you saying you want this in the game?
>>185432
Based
>>185434
This last weekend was only ever likely to have one encounter. I had one planned, and then from that point would look and see to what the Players did or chose to do. There were/are after battle actions that require downtime, and that would have prevented a second encounter.
Scheduling issues are and have been a consistent issue. Every time it looks like we have everyone together, oh no, Garv is out. Or Dust is out. Or floof is out. Or Posey is out. Or you are out. This is besides me having family matters and a job. It's not uncommon for us to not be able to play because of scheduling issues.
Also, three out of five players in the Mended Horn group were/are physically ill over the weekend. That's not a small matter.
To be honest, I don't think you managed your time perfectly either. On Friday, you were the one who called it early. On Saturday, while I think the hold up was that we were waiting on floof, you had like six hours to declare an action on the surprise round and I never got a clear and firm answer. And then on Sunday, I don't know if we've ever had a full encounter on a Sunday. I go to church, go to eat with my parents for lunch, and do other things. I had to work today and most people here either had to work today or were too sick to work today. So very little happened on Sunday. Yes, Posey's player offended me on Sunday, and because of it I stepped away and played Stellaris while watching Dragon Age: Veilguard hate reviews, and the same thing on Thursday.
But could you like... Not make 50 posts talking about how much you hate Posey? Can we leave the drama behind, step away for however long, and get on with things?
>>185429
Are you saying you want this in the game?
>>185432
Based
>>185434
This last weekend was only ever likely to have one encounter. I had one planned, and then from that point would look and see to what the Players did or chose to do. There were/are after battle actions that require downtime, and that would have prevented a second encounter.
Scheduling issues are and have been a consistent issue. Every time it looks like we have everyone together, oh no, Garv is out. Or Dust is out. Or floof is out. Or Posey is out. Or you are out. This is besides me having family matters and a job. It's not uncommon for us to not be able to play because of scheduling issues.
Also, three out of five players in the Mended Horn group were/are physically ill over the weekend. That's not a small matter.
To be honest, I don't think you managed your time perfectly either. On Friday, you were the one who called it early. On Saturday, while I think the hold up was that we were waiting on floof, you had like six hours to declare an action on the surprise round and I never got a clear and firm answer. And then on Sunday, I don't know if we've ever had a full encounter on a Sunday. I go to church, go to eat with my parents for lunch, and do other things. I had to work today and most people here either had to work today or were too sick to work today. So very little happened on Sunday. Yes, Posey's player offended me on Sunday, and because of it I stepped away and played Stellaris while watching Dragon Age: Veilguard hate reviews, and the same thing on Thursday.
But could you like... Not make 50 posts talking about how much you hate Posey? Can we leave the drama behind, step away for however long, and get on with things?
>>185476
I already have made a list and told him. Last I checked, I never came out and told you guys this until you all are deciding to team up against the one guy that is trying to tell you, and you are pretending he is insane for stating the obvious.
>talking for someone else
>don't muddy
Then don't further fling mud by pretending you are not getting involved by directly getting involved here. For fuck sake, you are not being neutral by saying one person is directly wrong and to shut up about it.
>What you are doing is personally affecting me too
How is me saying you are heading towards a cliff affect you? Do you want the joy of experiencing that freefall without the foreknowledge? I really hate that you have clearly deluded yourself by thinking anyone that points out a problem is your enemy in this.
>don't expect me to be sympathetic
I didn't because I can tell you have none from how you are handling this. Neither do I want whatever brand of sympathy you have to offer if this is how you behave.
>I must be Brie with a VPN
Clearly when I am faced with information that disagrees with me, I must be facing the one person I already have written off. How about you ask someone on staff to confirm I am not Brie because of my post history. Lotus can directly back that up, or Elway if you want someone completely non-biased.
I already have made a list and told him. Last I checked, I never came out and told you guys this until you all are deciding to team up against the one guy that is trying to tell you, and you are pretending he is insane for stating the obvious.
>talking for someone else
>don't muddy
Then don't further fling mud by pretending you are not getting involved by directly getting involved here. For fuck sake, you are not being neutral by saying one person is directly wrong and to shut up about it.
>What you are doing is personally affecting me too
How is me saying you are heading towards a cliff affect you? Do you want the joy of experiencing that freefall without the foreknowledge? I really hate that you have clearly deluded yourself by thinking anyone that points out a problem is your enemy in this.
>don't expect me to be sympathetic
I didn't because I can tell you have none from how you are handling this. Neither do I want whatever brand of sympathy you have to offer if this is how you behave.
>I must be Brie with a VPN
Clearly when I am faced with information that disagrees with me, I must be facing the one person I already have written off. How about you ask someone on staff to confirm I am not Brie because of my post history. Lotus can directly back that up, or Elway if you want someone completely non-biased.
>>185478
>I dont think u managed your time effectively
No shit. I waited to be available for a game that pops off at random. It seemed about to.pop off any moment. Maybe if a greater degree of limitation were placed on other players trying to nudge their characters forward, such that players who try to wait patiently get neglected and discarded, ask Stix, can NOT feel neglected and discarded,....
>I dont think u managed your time effectively
No shit. I waited to be available for a game that pops off at random. It seemed about to.pop off any moment. Maybe if a greater degree of limitation were placed on other players trying to nudge their characters forward, such that players who try to wait patiently get neglected and discarded, ask Stix, can NOT feel neglected and discarded,....
>>185482
No srsly, I was up 29 hours Sunday, trying to be ready for the game, before it got fucked by an asshole
No srsly, I was up 29 hours Sunday, trying to be ready for the game, before it got fucked by an asshole
wakes up
You guys are still arguing? What is this even all about? I thought the game was going well.
You guys are still arguing? What is this even all about? I thought the game was going well.
Or Idk, a collaborative schedule
Madness
Madness
I unironically don't have the energy to participate in this argument. Sorry.
Back to bed.
Back to bed.
>>185479
>I already have made a list and told him. Last I checked, I never came out and told you guys this until you all are deciding to team up against the one guy that is trying to tell you, and you are pretending he is insane for stating the obvious.
I like this response: "But could you like... Not make 50 posts talking about how much you hate Posey? Can we leave the drama behind, step away for however long, and get on with things?"
>Then don't further fling mud by pretending you are not getting involved by directly getting involved here. For fuck sake, you are not being neutral by saying one person is directly wrong and to shut up about it.
But could you like... Not make 50 posts talking about how much you hate Posey? Can we leave the drama behind, step away for however long, and get on with things?
>How is me saying you are heading towards a cliff affect you?
You are really doubling down on this. First of all, I trust the GM to have a handle on it. Clearly you do not, because you expect us all to suddenly yell at him to kick Posey from the game and accept nothing less. I find your behavior unhinged and founded upon personal grudges which makes me less inclined to believe anything you say. Maybe I should backread all the Mixed Nuts threads to unentangle years-old personal beef, but is it really worth my time to do that? I would much rather make character sheets for when my characters level up, or roleplay as one of my two characters in the game. I don't like it when anypony keeps me from doing that.
>Clearly when I am faced with information that disagrees with me, I must be facing the one person I already have written off.
I just find it odd that some lurker who played the same game you did years ago would show up at the moment you're writing these posts.
>>185483
Mental illness and insomnia don't go well together, as you're well aware.
>>185487
That's the smartest thing any of us has done all day.
>I already have made a list and told him. Last I checked, I never came out and told you guys this until you all are deciding to team up against the one guy that is trying to tell you, and you are pretending he is insane for stating the obvious.
I like this response: "But could you like... Not make 50 posts talking about how much you hate Posey? Can we leave the drama behind, step away for however long, and get on with things?"
>Then don't further fling mud by pretending you are not getting involved by directly getting involved here. For fuck sake, you are not being neutral by saying one person is directly wrong and to shut up about it.
But could you like... Not make 50 posts talking about how much you hate Posey? Can we leave the drama behind, step away for however long, and get on with things?
>How is me saying you are heading towards a cliff affect you?
You are really doubling down on this. First of all, I trust the GM to have a handle on it. Clearly you do not, because you expect us all to suddenly yell at him to kick Posey from the game and accept nothing less. I find your behavior unhinged and founded upon personal grudges which makes me less inclined to believe anything you say. Maybe I should backread all the Mixed Nuts threads to unentangle years-old personal beef, but is it really worth my time to do that? I would much rather make character sheets for when my characters level up, or roleplay as one of my two characters in the game. I don't like it when anypony keeps me from doing that.
>Clearly when I am faced with information that disagrees with me, I must be facing the one person I already have written off.
I just find it odd that some lurker who played the same game you did years ago would show up at the moment you're writing these posts.
>>185483
Mental illness and insomnia don't go well together, as you're well aware.
>>185487
That's the smartest thing any of us has done all day.
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>>185494
Its not about the mod card, its about "quit pretending he doesnt know what hes talking about"
Its not about the mod card, its about "quit pretending he doesnt know what hes talking about"
>>185494
Apparently you all need it. Can't have a single conversation without being called a samefag.
Apparently you all need it. Can't have a single conversation without being called a samefag.
>>185497
No, you being a mod has no bearing on the goddamn conversation, it's you just trying to intimidate him into submission. If you want to avoid being samefagged, use the handy name field just a little bit above the message box.
No, you being a mod has no bearing on the goddamn conversation, it's you just trying to intimidate him into submission. If you want to avoid being samefagged, use the handy name field just a little bit above the message box.
>>185498
You are right. It doesn't have to do with it. I did something that Brie can't do to prove I am not the same person. Anyone can use two different names and still be a samefag. I just blew the allegations out of the water before they got worse.
You are right. It doesn't have to do with it. I did something that Brie can't do to prove I am not the same person. Anyone can use two different names and still be a samefag. I just blew the allegations out of the water before they got worse.
>>185499
Knock it off with the mod shit and just type in the name field. I know who you are, no one would confuse you for being Brie's player.
Knock it off with the mod shit and just type in the name field. I know who you are, no one would confuse you for being Brie's player.
>>185500
Clearly, he didn't. He wanted to discredit me to at least himself if not others reading the thread, thinking that no one else knew either.
Like I already said, I have made these things clear to the GM. He is free to do or not do whatever. However, I am free to all you all retards for ganging up on someone that is in the right, despite coming across as rude to you. Posey has ruined the games I have been in before and if that offends you, sorry. I would have stayed quiet, but it is maddening to see all of you unite behind the wrong person in this fight, because it will not end well for the game and it will do everything you are accusing Brie of doing, kicking someone from the game because of a disagreement.
Clearly, he didn't. He wanted to discredit me to at least himself if not others reading the thread, thinking that no one else knew either.
Like I already said, I have made these things clear to the GM. He is free to do or not do whatever. However, I am free to all you all retards for ganging up on someone that is in the right, despite coming across as rude to you. Posey has ruined the games I have been in before and if that offends you, sorry. I would have stayed quiet, but it is maddening to see all of you unite behind the wrong person in this fight, because it will not end well for the game and it will do everything you are accusing Brie of doing, kicking someone from the game because of a disagreement.
>>185499
>>185502
I don't blame you for doing that. However this is an OOC thread for a DnD game, not a courtroom. Backing up a player's allegations against another player for something that happened years ago is helpful if it were a private conversation with the GM. It's not, it's public airing of grudges to accuse a player of "sabotaging" an ongoing game. Could we just not do that?
>>185502
I don't blame you for doing that. However this is an OOC thread for a DnD game, not a courtroom. Backing up a player's allegations against another player for something that happened years ago is helpful if it were a private conversation with the GM. It's not, it's public airing of grudges to accuse a player of "sabotaging" an ongoing game. Could we just not do that?
>>185502
Every post you make under your mod tag in this argument discredits not only yourself but the entire mod team.
Every post you make under your mod tag in this argument discredits not only yourself but the entire mod team.
>>185503
I want to, but every time Im assured/agreed the matter is resolved, something new appears. Again, not saying its the case, but its ALMOST like a person has used up their tricks and is trying at new things. It fits with the prevailing pattern
I want to, but every time Im assured/agreed the matter is resolved, something new appears. Again, not saying its the case, but its ALMOST like a person has used up their tricks and is trying at new things. It fits with the prevailing pattern
>>185503
I already said that I am just annoyed that you are all uniting against Brie when there is evidence that you should either sit out dogpiling him or at least hear what he had to say.
I already said that I am just annoyed that you are all uniting against Brie when there is evidence that you should either sit out dogpiling him or at least hear what he had to say.
>>185507
see >>185476
>My argument (and presumably Silver's player's) has never been "stick your head in the sand" but instead "don't muddy up our game with public accusations and attacks."
You might be completely right on everything you say about Posey, past and present. GM Pone has put his hoof down on that he doesn't want this game to be filled with drama and fighting, and (presumably) instead you should just give him all this information in private. I happen to agree with him on that. Would my inner gossipmonger enjoy reading all the juicy details that some internet autists have on each other? Sure, I guess. But I'd rather have one place on this website where I don't have to worry about politics or drama and where I can just play tabletop with cute ponies.
tl;dr if you're worried about a player or another ruining the game then tell GM Pone about it, if you're right and he does nothing then that's on him but otherwise just play the game
see >>185476
>My argument (and presumably Silver's player's) has never been "stick your head in the sand" but instead "don't muddy up our game with public accusations and attacks."
You might be completely right on everything you say about Posey, past and present. GM Pone has put his hoof down on that he doesn't want this game to be filled with drama and fighting, and (presumably) instead you should just give him all this information in private. I happen to agree with him on that. Would my inner gossipmonger enjoy reading all the juicy details that some internet autists have on each other? Sure, I guess. But I'd rather have one place on this website where I don't have to worry about politics or drama and where I can just play tabletop with cute ponies.
tl;dr if you're worried about a player or another ruining the game then tell GM Pone about it, if you're right and he does nothing then that's on him but otherwise just play the game
>>185508
I think Brie thinks that scheduling issues are you fault
>>185507
The moderator tag feels oddly coercive in a way I can't quite place or articulate. Perhaps post anonymously? We know who you are.
>>185506
Okay, but could we maybe not handle this with 50+ posts while almost everyone else is sick, asleep, or working?
I think Brie thinks that scheduling issues are you fault
>>185507
The moderator tag feels oddly coercive in a way I can't quite place or articulate. Perhaps post anonymously? We know who you are.
>>185506
Okay, but could we maybe not handle this with 50+ posts while almost everyone else is sick, asleep, or working?
Guys, my head is swimming, I can't handle reading all this rn.
Spell it out to me: did I say/do something wrong?
Spell it out to me: did I say/do something wrong?
>>185513
The moderator tag was to eliminate the attemt to disregard his position, thats obvious
>maybe mot 50 posts
Okay. Maybe not 59 posts from others. I tried to be patient. I tried to be a "good player" and let them do their thing. And I ended with a thumb in my ass. I dont like ending with a thumb in my ass, and Im sure as shit not gonna let it continue.
The moderator tag was to eliminate the attemt to disregard his position, thats obvious
>maybe mot 50 posts
Okay. Maybe not 59 posts from others. I tried to be patient. I tried to be a "good player" and let them do their thing. And I ended with a thumb in my ass. I dont like ending with a thumb in my ass, and Im sure as shit not gonna let it continue.
>>185512
I completely disagree that this is juicy gossip. This is a pattern that is being ignored to prop up the idea that Posey isn't doing anything worth complaining about.
>>185513
I already explained why I did it. If you don't agree, you don't have to worry. I won't be returning anyway. I just wanted the endless dogpiling to stop when it is not productive.
I completely disagree that this is juicy gossip. This is a pattern that is being ignored to prop up the idea that Posey isn't doing anything worth complaining about.
>>185513
I already explained why I did it. If you don't agree, you don't have to worry. I won't be returning anyway. I just wanted the endless dogpiling to stop when it is not productive.
>>185514
At first yes. GM pone was upset when you agreed with the mission being shortened (though he seems to be doing better, at least on the outside), didn't want to continue after that, and Brie's player is mad that he stayed up to play and nothing came of it.
Something tells me you don't actually want the mission shortened, you just want to be able to level up and get money for a cool necromancer level.
At first yes. GM pone was upset when you agreed with the mission being shortened (though he seems to be doing better, at least on the outside), didn't want to continue after that, and Brie's player is mad that he stayed up to play and nothing came of it.
Something tells me you don't actually want the mission shortened, you just want to be able to level up and get money for a cool necromancer level.
>>185517
>Im out
I hope you dont mean that. Im not giving up
>>185518
No no, Brie is mad that he posted extensively about insomnia, recording his awake hours for autists (including Posey) who will pretend to be unaware of - including the EXPLICIT post - watch, Im gonna pass out again cuz this is dragging on again - before I got some e energy drinks and stayed up until 4am fuming cuz this nigger couldnt say "Thanks Gnight"
>Im out
I hope you dont mean that. Im not giving up
>>185518
No no, Brie is mad that he posted extensively about insomnia, recording his awake hours for autists (including Posey) who will pretend to be unaware of - including the EXPLICIT post - watch, Im gonna pass out again cuz this is dragging on again - before I got some e energy drinks and stayed up until 4am fuming cuz this nigger couldnt say "Thanks Gnight"
>>185521
Yes, your skepticism is warranted, and I wont waste yiur time.
But, disclosing now, this nigger WILL try EVERY fucking button/angle ubder the sun. He don't care you are is his PLAYTHING.
Or, thats how he comes across
Yes, your skepticism is warranted, and I wont waste yiur time.
But, disclosing now, this nigger WILL try EVERY fucking button/angle ubder the sun. He don't care you are is his PLAYTHING.
Or, thats how he comes across
>>185514
Your post last night >>185320 obviously disappointed the GM Pone and discouraged him from participating the rest of the night, but as far as I can gather the accusation is that you deliberately worded it to ruin the game for him. This is singled out among a number of posts by other players expressing some measure of dissatisfaction, and is one of two posts quoted directly by the GM Pone when he was evidently upset.
>>185517
>dogpiling
Fair enough. I just can't help but see Brie's posts as stirring the pot.
>>185522
I was considering telling you at the time to not drink the energy posts and I should have. Saying goodnight is something most of us neglect anyway, and there have been multiple times where I played late into the night and stayed up an extra half hour awaiting another post from the GM.
Your post last night >>185320 obviously disappointed the GM Pone and discouraged him from participating the rest of the night, but as far as I can gather the accusation is that you deliberately worded it to ruin the game for him. This is singled out among a number of posts by other players expressing some measure of dissatisfaction, and is one of two posts quoted directly by the GM Pone when he was evidently upset.
>>185517
>dogpiling
Fair enough. I just can't help but see Brie's posts as stirring the pot.
>>185522
I was considering telling you at the time to not drink the energy posts and I should have. Saying goodnight is something most of us neglect anyway, and there have been multiple times where I played late into the night and stayed up an extra half hour awaiting another post from the GM.
>>185524
30 hours. 30 hours. I woke up, got a nat 20, was told "okay but gimme a sec" and this nigger fucked me the entire next day.
30 hours. 30 hours. I woke up, got a nat 20, was told "okay but gimme a sec" and this nigger fucked me the entire next day.
You cant claim its an accident when its a consostent pattern for years.
>>185518
I don't care if the mission is shortened or not. Killing things is fun. Getting paid is fun. I just want to advance my character and the story.
I saw someone, I think it was GM, suggest shortening it, so I said I was fine with it if it happened. PbP sometimes get streamlined for scheduling reasons; no harm in that if it's necessary. I'm pretty sure we only have a more encounters left in the XP budget for this adventuring day anyway though, so we might as well just do it all. Either is fine for me. Squash some xenos. I could do it all day.
>>185521
I am sick. I passed out last night. I slept most of today. As soon as I am better, I am going to have to do overtime every single day this week.
You can go ahead and play without me if you wish. Posey can't even talk to the NPCs, so she's basically just an attack turret for combat.
I don't even care if she's severely wounded, but I would prefer it if she doesn't die.
I don't care if the mission is shortened or not. Killing things is fun. Getting paid is fun. I just want to advance my character and the story.
I saw someone, I think it was GM, suggest shortening it, so I said I was fine with it if it happened. PbP sometimes get streamlined for scheduling reasons; no harm in that if it's necessary. I'm pretty sure we only have a more encounters left in the XP budget for this adventuring day anyway though, so we might as well just do it all. Either is fine for me. Squash some xenos. I could do it all day.
>>185521
I am sick. I passed out last night. I slept most of today. As soon as I am better, I am going to have to do overtime every single day this week.
You can go ahead and play without me if you wish. Posey can't even talk to the NPCs, so she's basically just an attack turret for combat.
I don't even care if she's severely wounded, but I would prefer it if she doesn't die.
>>185528
Exactly what I thought, it was all a matter of misunderstandings and communication failures. Again, I hope you get better soon, Posey! Same goes for everyone else who's sick right now.
Exactly what I thought, it was all a matter of misunderstandings and communication failures. Again, I hope you get better soon, Posey! Same goes for everyone else who's sick right now.
>>185530
They just aren't. Why would TF go to all of this trouble to come back and anonymously play a D&D campaign they've already explained multiple times they do not like, with two people they absolutely do not like?
They just aren't. Why would TF go to all of this trouble to come back and anonymously play a D&D campaign they've already explained multiple times they do not like, with two people they absolutely do not like?
>>185525
Anypony would be cranky in those circumstances. I can see why you would blame Posey but you could blame Floofernoodle just as much for what happened.
>>185528
I don't think you picked up on it, but it was a rhetorical question along the lines of "I worked hard on this mission, the encounters, and the setting, do you really want me to rush through it?" and your response was "Yes." It doesn't surprise me that you responded with such since you are focused on different aspects of the campaign, but that answer still took the wind out of his sails because it felt like his hard work was unappreciated.
Anypony would be cranky in those circumstances. I can see why you would blame Posey but you could blame Floofernoodle just as much for what happened.
>>185528
I don't think you picked up on it, but it was a rhetorical question along the lines of "I worked hard on this mission, the encounters, and the setting, do you really want me to rush through it?" and your response was "Yes." It doesn't surprise me that you responded with such since you are focused on different aspects of the campaign, but that answer still took the wind out of his sails because it felt like his hard work was unappreciated.
>>185530
>>185526
As I stated before,
"The only unsealing of ancient tombs" we will be doing here is by our characters.
>>185525
>>185523
I really don't think he was trying to push your buttons. I think we had unfortunate scheduling. As stated, we were only going to have one combat encounter anyways.
I know you're bright and wide awake at midnight on a Sunday/Monday morning, but all of us either have work or are trying to not die of COVID/Flu. You are awake when we are asleep, and apparently asleep when all of us think we finally have everyone together. That's not Posey's fault.
>>185526
As I stated before,
"The only unsealing of ancient tombs" we will be doing here is by our characters.
>>185525
>>185523
I really don't think he was trying to push your buttons. I think we had unfortunate scheduling. As stated, we were only going to have one combat encounter anyways.
I know you're bright and wide awake at midnight on a Sunday/Monday morning, but all of us either have work or are trying to not die of COVID/Flu. You are awake when we are asleep, and apparently asleep when all of us think we finally have everyone together. That's not Posey's fault.
>>185535
Yes, I know and disregard as silly, your opinion there.
>I dont think he was trying to push your buttons
Must we? Cant I just be resolved to a conditioned perception of bad faith cuz its proven out?
>youre awake when Posey is asleep
Yeah. So fuck off trying to bombard GM with what youd like to do next, and be a GOOD little blighter and ahut the fuck up until prompted yeh?
Yes, I know and disregard as silly, your opinion there.
>I dont think he was trying to push your buttons
Must we? Cant I just be resolved to a conditioned perception of bad faith cuz its proven out?
>youre awake when Posey is asleep
Yeah. So fuck off trying to bombard GM with what youd like to do next, and be a GOOD little blighter and ahut the fuck up until prompted yeh?
>>185536
>he can't even come up with a single point to argue
Anyways GM pone has spoken, knock it off with the "Posey is TF" stuff, it shouldn't have any bearing on the game regardless.
>Its about making sure nopony "accidentally" ruins it fkr any/everypony EVER again
Then stop shitting up the thread and drop the issue. It was just as I thought it was, a failure of communcation.
Explanations have been made, an apology has been spoken. Your need to keep talking about it is what's keeping it alive and preventing us from moving on.
>he can't even come up with a single point to argue
Anyways GM pone has spoken, knock it off with the "Posey is TF" stuff, it shouldn't have any bearing on the game regardless.
>Its about making sure nopony "accidentally" ruins it fkr any/everypony EVER again
Then stop shitting up the thread and drop the issue. It was just as I thought it was, a failure of communcation.
Explanations have been made, an apology has been spoken. Your need to keep talking about it is what's keeping it alive and preventing us from moving on.
>>185536
>This isnt about prosecution though. Its about making sure nopony "accidentally" ruins it fkr any/everypony EVER again
Logically speaking, the only way to do that would to kill each and every one of us. Can't ruin a game if there is no game, eh?
>This isnt about prosecution though. Its about making sure nopony "accidentally" ruins it fkr any/everypony EVER again
Logically speaking, the only way to do that would to kill each and every one of us. Can't ruin a game if there is no game, eh?
>>185537
I would be more amenable to your presumption of malice if it didn't express itself with what is probably literally a hundred posts between yourself and others on an off day.
I would be more amenable to your presumption of malice if it didn't express itself with what is probably literally a hundred posts between yourself and others on an off day.
>>185440
>Very cute! Is her cutie mark a human nun on fire?
Yeah, you're kinda right. It's virgin one fire. ^^
>GeneralZhoi's pony creator.
I have it up right now. Will try it.
>Very cute! Is her cutie mark a human nun on fire?
Yeah, you're kinda right. It's virgin one fire. ^^
>GeneralZhoi's pony creator.
I have it up right now. Will try it.
>>185553
Based Tenebrous, dealing with his mental health issues outside the game
Based Tenebrous, dealing with his mental health issues outside the game
Its the wee hours of the morning, so no one is going to object if I filibuster a bit more, yes?
Here's what really pisses me off about Sunday, aside from simply that I was rendered ultimately not able to play at all this weekend.
The following is a mild and minimally shameless glazing.
One of the best things about this game beyond most Ive experienced is the descriptions. The transitional moments where action or new propmts emerge, shifting the scene to a slightly new context in sequence.
GM does a better job at it than most, and I can point to where he isn't just visualizing in his head; he is drawing from personal experience and research when he describes intricate building structures. He applies his people-watching in how he describes casual pony behaviors. The airplane sequences are based off first hand visuals and skylines.
Theres alot of love he puts into the game, and all of us know it. And yeah, hes been doing it for 6 years now. Fucking incredible. I'm probably the last person who should be talking about gratitude. I'll shut up now.
ISTFG if another session gets ruined,... ill cry, but Ill act really angry on the internet
Here's what really pisses me off about Sunday, aside from simply that I was rendered ultimately not able to play at all this weekend.
The following is a mild and minimally shameless glazing.
One of the best things about this game beyond most Ive experienced is the descriptions. The transitional moments where action or new propmts emerge, shifting the scene to a slightly new context in sequence.
GM does a better job at it than most, and I can point to where he isn't just visualizing in his head; he is drawing from personal experience and research when he describes intricate building structures. He applies his people-watching in how he describes casual pony behaviors. The airplane sequences are based off first hand visuals and skylines.
Theres alot of love he puts into the game, and all of us know it. And yeah, hes been doing it for 6 years now. Fucking incredible. I'm probably the last person who should be talking about gratitude. I'll shut up now.
ISTFG if another session gets ruined,... ill cry, but Ill act really angry on the internet
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>>185548
>>185550
>>185553
This is the closest I could get with it. Also, every single one of the versions I tried were bugged in someway. *scrunch*
But I'll admit that gives somewhat of a good base to work from. ^^
>>185550
>>185553
This is the closest I could get with it. Also, every single one of the versions I tried were bugged in someway. *scrunch*
But I'll admit that gives somewhat of a good base to work from. ^^
>>185564
Very cute! I havent looked over the character sheet yet, I assume it's in thread?
>>185553
Not referencing this post, just activating the (you).
I'm largely retiring Brie after this mission, except as a possible RP fixture (like Addy was in the intro/briefing). Lacey will be my exclusive player. He will still be 'there' in a 'physical'/interactive sense, and will be present largely at Lacey's bar if and when that gets established/developed. In story/context, it could be situated/developed that Brie might be a stakeholder in the business, allowing for a more direct (but no less subtly-adversarial/competitive) relationship.
Whatever the case, Brie is not going to be going on any more missions.
Very cute! I havent looked over the character sheet yet, I assume it's in thread?
>>185553
Not referencing this post, just activating the (you).
I'm largely retiring Brie after this mission, except as a possible RP fixture (like Addy was in the intro/briefing). Lacey will be my exclusive player. He will still be 'there' in a 'physical'/interactive sense, and will be present largely at Lacey's bar if and when that gets established/developed. In story/context, it could be situated/developed that Brie might be a stakeholder in the business, allowing for a more direct (but no less subtly-adversarial/competitive) relationship.
Whatever the case, Brie is not going to be going on any more missions.
Okay. We get it. You don’t like Posey trying to deviate in game actions. But we don’t need 75% of posts being you complaining about Posey. This is harmful to every single other player in the game.
>>185599
Not to leave anything unanswered: you're right, we dont need 75% of posts complaining, any more than we need 20% of posts trying to bump their place "in line".
Im still waiting on that nat 20 search, and I for kne will be OKAY with not getting what "I think I deserve"
Not to leave anything unanswered: you're right, we dont need 75% of posts complaining, any more than we need 20% of posts trying to bump their place "in line".
Im still waiting on that nat 20 search, and I for kne will be OKAY with not getting what "I think I deserve"
>>185570
>Very cute!
Ty.
>I havent looked over the character sheet yet, I assume it's in thread?
You can find it here: >>182481 however, that one is both flawed as an anon pointed out and also not updated, work-in-progress sorta deal.
>The sent and deleted posts regarding Posey's player
I'm not here to tell you off (I don't feel that I understand the situation to, in goof faith, give my opinion on it honestly.) but I want to give you my perspective. When you post critique of another player, kinda don't let, up and they don't respond; (Again, you might be right here for all I know.) you come off as the one causing trouble.
What I'm trying to say here is that my suggestion is that, since you clearly have some issue with Poesy's player's behavior, you should definitely bring it up. It's good to air our feelings, I think. However, you should probably approach it in a more formal-ish manner. In practical terms, my idea would be that you write all your issues into one or (2-3) posts that you have with Poesy's player and post it/them.
But maybe you have already done that. So yeah, maybe your posting like this because you have tried everything else already. However, what you're currently doing is having the opposite effect of you intent. Like, you might be absolutely in the right for all I know, but even I find it kinda, well not annoying but a bit like you're ruining the cozy atmosphere by your critical posts meanwhile, all Poesy has done today is fun post about her pc dancing. This dance might have some implications and so on but you see what I'm getting at.
>Very cute!
Ty.
>I havent looked over the character sheet yet, I assume it's in thread?
You can find it here: >>182481 however, that one is both flawed as an anon pointed out and also not updated, work-in-progress sorta deal.
>The sent and deleted posts regarding Posey's player
I'm not here to tell you off (I don't feel that I understand the situation to, in goof faith, give my opinion on it honestly.) but I want to give you my perspective. When you post critique of another player, kinda don't let, up and they don't respond; (Again, you might be right here for all I know.) you come off as the one causing trouble.
What I'm trying to say here is that my suggestion is that, since you clearly have some issue with Poesy's player's behavior, you should definitely bring it up. It's good to air our feelings, I think. However, you should probably approach it in a more formal-ish manner. In practical terms, my idea would be that you write all your issues into one or (2-3) posts that you have with Poesy's player and post it/them.
But maybe you have already done that. So yeah, maybe your posting like this because you have tried everything else already. However, what you're currently doing is having the opposite effect of you intent. Like, you might be absolutely in the right for all I know, but even I find it kinda, well not annoying but a bit like you're ruining the cozy atmosphere by your critical posts meanwhile, all Poesy has done today is fun post about her pc dancing. This dance might have some implications and so on but you see what I'm getting at.
>>185619
Also, I saw you mentioned me a few times. I'm not really sure how I came into it all but I appreciate you standing up for me, ^^ if I got that correctly.
Also, I saw you mentioned me a few times. I'm not really sure how I came into it all but I appreciate you standing up for me, ^^ if I got that correctly.
>>185621
It was my pleasure. You have far less time to play than many of us, especially on weekends and such
It was my pleasure. You have far less time to play than many of us, especially on weekends and such
The thing about collaborative storytelling, especially in a format like this where the players never see or hear one another or even see when one another is typing, is that it forcibly restricts all the other senses, causing the brain to hyperfocus on the words and description. This causes a MUCH greater level of imaginitive immersion, a literal waking dreamstate.
And yes, in the right context means positive generation of ALL the best brain chemicals: Endorphins, Dopamine, Serotonin, and Oxytocin. It is naturally and productively addicting, because it excites the brain in all the ways we are wired to thrive under as social animals.
It is therefore doubly important that players exercise care in what they say. In that there's no body language, tone of voice, or any of that, the brain has to race to ascertain what was just said. And since players and GM are all trying to be as quick and efficient as possible, the best way to do that is to mentally let down the safeguards and mental protections necessary to insulate one's self in greater society.
So when everyone has their walls down, and is grinding in their mind to process, assess, and quickly respond to one another, an offhand shitty comment is like a virus to a computer with no firewall. Yes, it can be repaired (maybe, depending), but that comes after the sometimes lengthy frustration of scrubbing, restoring, etc.
Im just as guilty as anyone, this isnt accusatory. These games require a level of trust, and I get that I have given players reason to not trust me, which is why I'm making arrangements so that that wont be an issue. Y'all got along perfectly well before I showed back up, and I dont want anyone to lose that regardless of my personal feelings/impressions.
And yes, in the right context means positive generation of ALL the best brain chemicals: Endorphins, Dopamine, Serotonin, and Oxytocin. It is naturally and productively addicting, because it excites the brain in all the ways we are wired to thrive under as social animals.
It is therefore doubly important that players exercise care in what they say. In that there's no body language, tone of voice, or any of that, the brain has to race to ascertain what was just said. And since players and GM are all trying to be as quick and efficient as possible, the best way to do that is to mentally let down the safeguards and mental protections necessary to insulate one's self in greater society.
So when everyone has their walls down, and is grinding in their mind to process, assess, and quickly respond to one another, an offhand shitty comment is like a virus to a computer with no firewall. Yes, it can be repaired (maybe, depending), but that comes after the sometimes lengthy frustration of scrubbing, restoring, etc.
Im just as guilty as anyone, this isnt accusatory. These games require a level of trust, and I get that I have given players reason to not trust me, which is why I'm making arrangements so that that wont be an issue. Y'all got along perfectly well before I showed back up, and I dont want anyone to lose that regardless of my personal feelings/impressions.
>>185626
>It is naturally and productively addicting, because it excites the brain in all the ways we are wired to thrive under as social animals.
Doubly so because we are autists who don't get much of this excitement normally ^.^
>So when everyone has their walls down, and is grinding in their mind to process, assess, and quickly respond to one another, an offhand shitty comment is like a virus to a computer with no firewall.
Ain't that the truth. It's very easy to unwittingly give offense, and with thousands of replies posted with urgency to keep the game going it's bound to happen.
>Y'all got along perfectly well before I showed back up, and I dont want anyone to lose that regardless of my personal feelings/impressions.
I hope you don't leave the game. Drama aside, you have been fun to have around and you have been here from the very start of the campaign. Before you rejoined I had been asking GM Pone for months if you were coming back because it feels like the game is missing something with your absence. Plus, who would be the party rogue?
>It is naturally and productively addicting, because it excites the brain in all the ways we are wired to thrive under as social animals.
Doubly so because we are autists who don't get much of this excitement normally ^.^
>So when everyone has their walls down, and is grinding in their mind to process, assess, and quickly respond to one another, an offhand shitty comment is like a virus to a computer with no firewall.
Ain't that the truth. It's very easy to unwittingly give offense, and with thousands of replies posted with urgency to keep the game going it's bound to happen.
>Y'all got along perfectly well before I showed back up, and I dont want anyone to lose that regardless of my personal feelings/impressions.
I hope you don't leave the game. Drama aside, you have been fun to have around and you have been here from the very start of the campaign. Before you rejoined I had been asking GM Pone for months if you were coming back because it feels like the game is missing something with your absence. Plus, who would be the party rogue?
>>185627
Please, Im here forever. But I am restructuring how I play, particularly who I play and in what context. Honestly, Im more worried about other players leaving.
I really think that wd can get through the remainder of the mission with good spirits, and I came up with a few checks and balances of my own to prevent me from jumping to conclusions and taking undue offense.
Please, Im here forever. But I am restructuring how I play, particularly who I play and in what context. Honestly, Im more worried about other players leaving.
I really think that wd can get through the remainder of the mission with good spirits, and I came up with a few checks and balances of my own to prevent me from jumping to conclusions and taking undue offense.
>>185629
Nature abhors a power vacuum, that will be an option.
>>185627
The biggest problem with Brie is, he was designed as a character when I was probably at my greatest stage of 'unwell'. He wasn't designed to be played 'right', he wad intended to be a vehicle for me to express my contempt and frustration for the world. DnD is inherently psychological. For this reason, Brie will be effectively retired (assuming he survives) at the end of this mission, as far as engagjng in combat or non-story/rp purposes (open to exceptions, if GM gets an appealing scenario jn mind). No, Lacey is far better for everyone, because her game is finding a way where everyone wins/profits. She can stab, theres a family tradition, but its far better to prosper and make mlney, isnt it?
Nature abhors a power vacuum, that will be an option.
>>185627
The biggest problem with Brie is, he was designed as a character when I was probably at my greatest stage of 'unwell'. He wasn't designed to be played 'right', he wad intended to be a vehicle for me to express my contempt and frustration for the world. DnD is inherently psychological. For this reason, Brie will be effectively retired (assuming he survives) at the end of this mission, as far as engagjng in combat or non-story/rp purposes (open to exceptions, if GM gets an appealing scenario jn mind). No, Lacey is far better for everyone, because her game is finding a way where everyone wins/profits. She can stab, theres a family tradition, but its far better to prosper and make mlney, isnt it?
Sorry, geeking
This is the nature of the existing tension between Lacey and Brie, is shes ALWAYS willing to renegotiate for better and more amenable terms of a developing agreement, especially if it avoids unnecessary bloodshed. Brie however is blood first, then check IDs.
For Brie, she's at times unreliable and inconsistent. For Lacey, Brie is hard-nosed and uncompromising. If Brie survives, hes coming out of this very different, and I think some sort of (mildly contrived) scenario where he is taking a step back and maybe help.manage Lacey's agendas will be good for both characters, as well as all participants/GM
This is the nature of the existing tension between Lacey and Brie, is shes ALWAYS willing to renegotiate for better and more amenable terms of a developing agreement, especially if it avoids unnecessary bloodshed. Brie however is blood first, then check IDs.
For Brie, she's at times unreliable and inconsistent. For Lacey, Brie is hard-nosed and uncompromising. If Brie survives, hes coming out of this very different, and I think some sort of (mildly contrived) scenario where he is taking a step back and maybe help.manage Lacey's agendas will be good for both characters, as well as all participants/GM
I'll stop after this, I promise.
The thing that compels me about Lacey as a character is that her whole shtick is about making the best of a 'bad hand', but not in a tactical sense. Shes designed to have better assassin_rogue sneak-sploits than Brie, but thats her LAST move, as opposed to her first.
One of my top 3 alltime RP moments was in that first mission in the burning warehouse, where Brie (in character AND out) dared a griffon/GM to try and kill him, not even using a dodge action cuz it was new again and I had forgotten alot of things. The dice said no, the griffon missed, and then the dice said yes, Brie grts a nat 20 on both thrown daggers, described as embedding in the eyes of the opponent.
That was fine then. But aside from the face stabbing earlier, I dont want to ideate toward that mentality, and while "reforming Brie" is a good start, putting him on the backburner even if only temporary seems the best course of action.
Y'all have already been more than patient with my shit. Lacey wont bite if petted, thouch she might still pull a cautionary blade.
The thing that compels me about Lacey as a character is that her whole shtick is about making the best of a 'bad hand', but not in a tactical sense. Shes designed to have better assassin_rogue sneak-sploits than Brie, but thats her LAST move, as opposed to her first.
One of my top 3 alltime RP moments was in that first mission in the burning warehouse, where Brie (in character AND out) dared a griffon/GM to try and kill him, not even using a dodge action cuz it was new again and I had forgotten alot of things. The dice said no, the griffon missed, and then the dice said yes, Brie grts a nat 20 on both thrown daggers, described as embedding in the eyes of the opponent.
That was fine then. But aside from the face stabbing earlier, I dont want to ideate toward that mentality, and while "reforming Brie" is a good start, putting him on the backburner even if only temporary seems the best course of action.
Y'all have already been more than patient with my shit. Lacey wont bite if petted, thouch she might still pull a cautionary blade.
>>185638
May I create 200 level 6 yak barbarians (all with unique and rich backstories and personalities ofc) whose gimmick is to solve every quest with brute force?
May I create 200 level 6 yak barbarians (all with unique and rich backstories and personalities ofc) whose gimmick is to solve every quest with brute force?
>sudden realization
>yaks make for the best monk/pugelists cuz implied racial bonuses
>yaks make for the best monk/pugelists cuz implied racial bonuses
I had this idea for a Yakfolk-inspired Sha'ir years ago. Pact with the Dao, genie themed, etc. The idea was to use a half-minotaur template and refluff it.
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What about this idea:
Name: Kuiniu
Sex: Male
Race: Noble Yak (Half-Minotaur, half-ogre, Primordial Lesser D'hin'ni; LA total +2, which is equal to winged creature)
Class: Sha'ir (Yak Shaman, Genie Consuktant)
Alignment: Neutral, maybe Neutral Evil
Personality: As bullheaded as most Yak are, but also quite persuasive
Profession: Diplomat, Shaman
Goals: To establish the newly independent New Mareland as an ally of Yakistan (since Equestria was an ally)
Role: Party face, buffer, battlefield control, ranged spellstriker
Build: Diplomancer, caster
Strength: versatile with blessings of his ancestors
Weaknesses: despite size and fearsome attitude, is low HP and generally helpless in melee combat
Virtues: Keeps promises, supportive of friends
Flaws: Yak
Inspiration: Show, D&D Yakfolk lore, Asian History
Should I even bother making this sheet?
Name: Kuiniu
Sex: Male
Race: Noble Yak (Half-Minotaur, half-ogre, Primordial Lesser D'hin'ni; LA total +2, which is equal to winged creature)
Class: Sha'ir (Yak Shaman, Genie Consuktant)
Alignment: Neutral, maybe Neutral Evil
Personality: As bullheaded as most Yak are, but also quite persuasive
Profession: Diplomat, Shaman
Goals: To establish the newly independent New Mareland as an ally of Yakistan (since Equestria was an ally)
Role: Party face, buffer, battlefield control, ranged spellstriker
Build: Diplomancer, caster
Strength: versatile with blessings of his ancestors
Weaknesses: despite size and fearsome attitude, is low HP and generally helpless in melee combat
Virtues: Keeps promises, supportive of friends
Flaws: Yak
Inspiration: Show, D&D Yakfolk lore, Asian History
Should I even bother making this sheet?
Okay, Sha'ir 5, Mystic Wanderer 1
Feats: Wanderer's Diplomacy, Mercantile Background, Silver Tongue, Leadership
Let's do stats
[1d6 = 1][1d6 = 5][1d6 = 2][1d6 = 5]
[1d6 = 6][1d6 = 3][1d6 = 2][1d6 = 5]
[1d6 = 5][1d6 = 4][1d6 = 5][1d6 = 3]
[1d6 = 1][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 3][1d6 = 2]
[1d6 = 6][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 4]
[1d6 = 1][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 3][1d6 = 4]
Feats: Wanderer's Diplomacy, Mercantile Background, Silver Tongue, Leadership
Let's do stats
[1d6 = 1][1d6 = 5][1d6 = 2][1d6 = 5]
[1d6 = 6][1d6 = 3][1d6 = 2][1d6 = 5]
[1d6 = 5][1d6 = 4][1d6 = 5][1d6 = 3]
[1d6 = 1][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 3][1d6 = 2]
[1d6 = 6][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 4]
[1d6 = 1][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 3][1d6 = 4]
>>185644
Cavaliere was approved, actually suggested, because of the very simple reason that I wanted more players to join the main quest, but he refused to send Amber (believing it was not consistent with her character). So I had him make a new character who would go.
Kubana Kirafiki was proposed in passing, then we talked about it for what was probably two months, coming up with details of lamia culture, lamia biology, and details about the character. We planned out how she would be introduced in Baltimare and much of her first day. I like lamias, and it helped that she was to be introduced along an NPC companion whom I could use to make jokes about vore, and also was just a fun character. Kira is also an easily likeable character, being bubbly, nice, and fun to have every NPC run from in unintended terror. I think you can see we did not over complicate the character sheet or make her exceptionally powerful.
>>185649
What does "Should I even bother making this sheet?" mean? I was under the impression you like to make sheets just because it's a fun little minigame. Are you asking if the character is guaranteed to be approved? Well no, I wouldn't approve any character without seeing a sheet first anyways.
I don't see any serious problems, although I will say that the alignment of "evil" and to a lesser extent, "neutral" is a nebulous term behind which much annoying behavior hides. Also note that Minotaurs are a thing in the show and EAW.
>>185644
>200 Necropolitan Artificers and Masters who craft cool stuff
No
>>185639
Maybe as enemies
Cavaliere was approved, actually suggested, because of the very simple reason that I wanted more players to join the main quest, but he refused to send Amber (believing it was not consistent with her character). So I had him make a new character who would go.
Kubana Kirafiki was proposed in passing, then we talked about it for what was probably two months, coming up with details of lamia culture, lamia biology, and details about the character. We planned out how she would be introduced in Baltimare and much of her first day. I like lamias, and it helped that she was to be introduced along an NPC companion whom I could use to make jokes about vore, and also was just a fun character. Kira is also an easily likeable character, being bubbly, nice, and fun to have every NPC run from in unintended terror. I think you can see we did not over complicate the character sheet or make her exceptionally powerful.
>>185649
What does "Should I even bother making this sheet?" mean? I was under the impression you like to make sheets just because it's a fun little minigame. Are you asking if the character is guaranteed to be approved? Well no, I wouldn't approve any character without seeing a sheet first anyways.
I don't see any serious problems, although I will say that the alignment of "evil" and to a lesser extent, "neutral" is a nebulous term behind which much annoying behavior hides. Also note that Minotaurs are a thing in the show and EAW.
>>185644
>200 Necropolitan Artificers and Masters who craft cool stuff
No
>>185639
Maybe as enemies
>>185655
My question concerned if you liked the Yak Diplomat idea or not.
If you don't like the idea of Yak diplomacy, then the character is pointless.
My question concerned if you liked the Yak Diplomat idea or not.
If you don't like the idea of Yak diplomacy, then the character is pointless.
>>185657
The idea of a Yak with higher charisma than Posey in the universe irks me, so I'm going to shelf this idea for now.
The idea of a Yak with higher charisma than Posey in the universe irks me, so I'm going to shelf this idea for now.
>>185633
>sageing
Quick follow-up
In a weird sense, you could say that I'm trying for Lacey and Brie to be a darker version of Pear Butter and Bright Macintosh, but with an alladdin-esque trope thrown in. Like, I havent fully decided on her CM, but Im really tempted to make it be about him in some capacity
>sageing
Quick follow-up
In a weird sense, you could say that I'm trying for Lacey and Brie to be a darker version of Pear Butter and Bright Macintosh, but with an alladdin-esque trope thrown in. Like, I havent fully decided on her CM, but Im really tempted to make it be about him in some capacity
Kira wants to squishy face every pony she sees, they're just so cute!
>>185678 →
How much Dex would you say a pony character would need to be able to pull that off? Silver's probably flexible enough to put his hindleg behind his head like that, with his 18 Dex unmodified.
How much Dex would you say a pony character would need to be able to pull that off? Silver's probably flexible enough to put his hindleg behind his head like that, with his 18 Dex unmodified.
>>185679
Posey is a mutant, a zombie, and a masochist, and for her dislocating her joints or dismembering herself is just a mild inconvenience.
She practices yoga to keep her undead body beautiful.
I got the idea from the Nazi zombie contortionist in the Hellboy movie.
When I wrote Posey, her enhanced Dex was 20. Her current Dex is 16, which would still be considered superhuman (10 being average).
Posey is a mutant, a zombie, and a masochist, and for her dislocating her joints or dismembering herself is just a mild inconvenience.
She practices yoga to keep her undead body beautiful.
I got the idea from the Nazi zombie contortionist in the Hellboy movie.
When I wrote Posey, her enhanced Dex was 20. Her current Dex is 16, which would still be considered superhuman (10 being average).
I had an idea (or a couple of ideas) that I think would be pretty neat, but would also very likely increase the length of the quest, veyr possibly significantly. Is this going to be very badly received, or what?
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>>185682
I would be all for it. We're not likely to return to this island so getting the most out of this eerie setting would be perfect.
I would be all for it. We're not likely to return to this island so getting the most out of this eerie setting would be perfect.
>>185682
>Is this going to be very badly received, or what?
Unless it results in some kind of permanent unavoidable debuffs (as in, the kind we can't avoid by fighting/evading), Idk anything that I would dislike.
My only requests/suggestions:
>additional encounters/traps/puzzles/tasks that add to the XP budget of the adventure be rewarded with some appropriate treasure and/or levels, or otherwise contribute to character wealth/advancement/development (i.e. any kind of reward for winning, even if it's just a few coins or a random treasure roll)
>be mindful of the other PCs who are low on healing resources, because their confidence will be affected by their health (this can be amended by adding a Healing Belt, Wand of Vigor, or potions to any loot rolls)
But even if those requests aren't met, I'm fine with whatever. I trust that whatever you throw at us will be fun. Posey is adventuring to expand her personal powers, so she sees any kind of challenge as an opportunity to level up and practice her craft so that she can become a master and complete her apprenticeship.
We could be swallowed by a leviathan, warped into the far realm, or get abducted by aliens for all I care.
>>185684
Also this. I have a completionist mindset, so I want to exhaust every avenue of adventure on this island.
Assuming the Marines don't freeze, but tbh they're marines and they should be able to take care of themselves.
>Is this going to be very badly received, or what?
Unless it results in some kind of permanent unavoidable debuffs (as in, the kind we can't avoid by fighting/evading), Idk anything that I would dislike.
My only requests/suggestions:
>additional encounters/traps/puzzles/tasks that add to the XP budget of the adventure be rewarded with some appropriate treasure and/or levels, or otherwise contribute to character wealth/advancement/development (i.e. any kind of reward for winning, even if it's just a few coins or a random treasure roll)
>be mindful of the other PCs who are low on healing resources, because their confidence will be affected by their health (this can be amended by adding a Healing Belt, Wand of Vigor, or potions to any loot rolls)
But even if those requests aren't met, I'm fine with whatever. I trust that whatever you throw at us will be fun. Posey is adventuring to expand her personal powers, so she sees any kind of challenge as an opportunity to level up and practice her craft so that she can become a master and complete her apprenticeship.
We could be swallowed by a leviathan, warped into the far realm, or get abducted by aliens for all I care.
>>185684
Also this. I have a completionist mindset, so I want to exhaust every avenue of adventure on this island.
Assuming the Marines don't freeze, but tbh they're marines and they should be able to take care of themselves.
It's what I gathered from the backlogs I read.
A Wizard, I think?
A Wizard, I think?
>>185682
Yay!
>>185686
There are places to take shelter on the island, and Kira's Survival modifier is high enough that she realistically would have zero problems making a fire, so once the Traveler is dealt with we can stash the Navy ponies in a safe location with a cozy fire while we explore.
>>185680
>>185687
Hmm...Silver could probably do so, then. I should have him display his flexibility more.
Yay!
>>185686
There are places to take shelter on the island, and Kira's Survival modifier is high enough that she realistically would have zero problems making a fire, so once the Traveler is dealt with we can stash the Navy ponies in a safe location with a cozy fire while we explore.
>>185680
>>185687
Hmm...Silver could probably do so, then. I should have him display his flexibility more.
Clarification: in EaW for HoI4, the everfree bar society still is steuctured largely around Nightmare Moon and her ideals.
So, Brie knows that mentality. But, this is more evil even than Nightmare Moon, who was at least lawful in her evil. She didn't mind control ponies certainly, and aside from permanent night time never warped reality
So, Brie knows that mentality. But, this is more evil even than Nightmare Moon, who was at least lawful in her evil. She didn't mind control ponies certainly, and aside from permanent night time never warped reality
Mystic Wanderer is probably the best class for Zebra alchemists.
https://dnd.arkalseif.info/classes/mystic-wanderer/index.html
https://dnd.arkalseif.info/classes/mystic-wanderer/index.html
>saging
Theres wholesome shit going on in /sg/ Xp
Ghost brand Cherry Limeaid is the preferred energy drink of bats
Theres wholesome shit going on in /sg/ Xp
Ghost brand Cherry Limeaid is the preferred energy drink of bats
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