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>>187203
80% of the problems with Brie can be addressed with 100% of one player. Dont make me make this awkward, cuz awkward is ALL I have in my hand anymore

The quest had a pretty good momentum going for a while. Then that week before Christmas, on that Monday and especially the Tuesday after the last combat, Brie got pissy at Posey for... existing, I guess, and went on an unending diatribe. Just when I had hoped that Dark Star was posting and I could pay attention to him instead it was Posey deciding to spam the thread with endless "sneed spam." Because that's what we need. Spam. Just like the russian bot posts except 10+ posts while I'm at work rather than just one or two. Anyways, all of this drama happened while I was trying to work, and it damn near caused me to have a nervous breakdown. Basically I was put in the position of Skylar in this video. It got so bad that my parents asked me if I was okay when they saw me, as they heard me muttering "shut up" to myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RPoDvDVmwc&pp=ygUXc2h1dCB1cCBzaHV0IHVwIHNodXQgdXA%3D [Embed] . After that I decided that I was going to play stellaris instead. But the problem with that is that Stellaris is very addictive, and when you start you can't easily stop. So the momentum was lost for those free days before Christmas, and then I was out of country for more than a week, and then work was hard last week, and basically I'm not back in the groove.

I really am unsure about quite a few decisions. Narrative, combat, how to handle things... It's easy for me to be demoralized. This is the first big quest since 2020, and the first multi person quest at all since 2022... Actually, I've had the idea since 2022... I don't know. I want things to go well, but don't always know how to do that.

So yes, I was upset when Brie's player is out of character criticizing another player for trying to actually play the game. And this is another thing. Brie loves to focus on what other players do and criticize them for it. Not in character. Sometimes it's valid and sometimes it isn't. Either way just shut the fuck up and let people play the game, Jesus. Focus on your own damn character and let Silver talk. It's not like I was going to force the whole group into combat at 10 PM anyways. What did you think would happen?

And then losing the millennial post... any time I looked at the thread and thought "maybe I should get back to it" I look at the thread, see that it's on the wrong number, and the enthusiasm just dies.

Also stop the fucking post spam. We're more than 1/10th of the way into this thread's miserable life already and nothing at all has happened. Holy hell

>>187076
>it's better if you articulate why you disagree with his point than imply that it's faulty without addressing why
No, and I'm not sorry. Sometimes an expression of emotion is really just an expression of emotion. Sometimes emotions just need to be expressed. The post just came off as rude and offensive in multiple parts. I know that because I was pissed off everything I read is going to be offensive, but with this player specifically this is a consistent issue. This player, every single night, wants to have some kind of correction "They wouldn't use American trucks" or "there should only be one cathedral in a city and not two" or "You can freeze to death at 40 degrees" (when I say that shivering was caused by mental degradation and not the cold) and this is so consistent that any time we play, I can expect that he'll post two+ hours after things have started, and there's going to be some sort of correction like that somewhere. Normally this is the kind of thing that I can just suffer but... Have you ever seen the film Falling Down? There's a thousand things that we all suffer every day in normal life, but after we've already snapped... You just feel like pulling a submachine gun at MacDonalds when they won't serve breakfast, or shooting a rocket launcher at the obvious make-work never-ending construction site. The tone he used really did piss me off, and I wasn't going to suffer it. Am I making any sense? No? Moving on.

Also, what was I to say to the substance of what he said? He made his point rather clearly. 1. He didn't think his character did anything wrong given how things were set up (Maybe it's on me for not including his in that category of 'character's that didn't piss me off', since I don't think he really did), and second and more importantly 2. He'd rather his character suffer any failure than have any correction. Okay. Fair enough. The only question left to be asked is, do others feel that way?

>>187183
>In terms of acceptability stealing ranks below killing party members.
This is retarded, and I don't care if you don't understand why this is retarded.

As for stealing the crown,
1. Posey has not demonstrated that she can be trusted with a cursed crown any more than Brie can with explosives or Silver with your daughter
2. After getting the crown, Posey then wanted to refuse to negotiate any kind of agreement where it counts as a decent potion of her share... really? She just expects to get it as pure profit for herself without the rest of the party getting something in compensation? My brother in Christ, this is how you get conspired against and stolen from by the party (You) stole the crown from
3. Posey would have no way to know how it was lost, as these things could absolutely fall out of the bag, be stolen by one of the ethereal jaunters, stolen by one of the non-ponies in the group, or any number of such sources. Anything to the contrary is just metagaming

Don't be a faggot and you won't be stolen from
>It's what my character would do!
Your character is about to be pickpocketed twice in the same day

>>187204
And will you shut the fuck up about how much you hate Posey. We get it. You hate Posey because reasons. You made that point 3 months ago. We understand. You've said that already. You've posted maybe already a thousand posts about how much you hate Posey. You've killed multiple threads saying it. Okay. We hear you. We've heard you. Now shut the fuck up. Jesus Christ.

>>187205
>Brie got pissy at Posey for... existing, I guess
Flagrantly reductive, but okay, not gonna take the bait.
>You hate Posey
Posey was one of my favorite people.i dont hate him, I dont know what the deal is honestly

This will be my last post on the matter. A bunch of months ago, I did something stupid. I do that, its usually oblivious and not malicious. But, I know me, so I own that I did something. That I'm not specifically aware of what it was MAY be a source of anon's ire. I never thought of him as an opponent until he dickrided Asuka in the discord. And since then, we have been at odds. And for what it's worth,... nevermind. I dont want to be at odds anymore

>>187207
>Posey was one of my favorite people.i dont hate him
You may feel that way, but to the rest of us it really feels like you despise his guts. Hell, I've personally felt you've been trying to run him off to be frankly honest.

>>187207
>Flagrantly reductive
I honestly and sincerely do not remember what it was that allegedly set you off that day. What I absolutely remember is your reaction to it, and then Posey’s reaction to your reaction (and insisting on doing it while I was trying to work) reducing me to such an exasperated state that it was actively harmful to my mental health, and I had to step away from the game and we still haven’t recovered from it.

Whatever valid critiques you may have, your reactions are consistently so excessive and annoying that whatever it was you had to say is entirely lost on outside observers, who just want you to stop. Have you read any version of Romeo and Juliet? That story isn’t about the subtle nuances of the Guelph and Gihboline conflict and the history of the feud and why we should be invested in it, it’s about how greatly the conflict has exceeded its initial causes to the degree those reasons no longer matter.

>>187208
>Dickrided Asuka in the discord
Neither Asuka nor discord has anything to do with my game at all. This fight reminds me of how, many years ago when I was in school, Israelis and Palestinians would get into literal fights on campus. All I could think is “why are they even in my country? Go fight each other in Israel.”
I don’t care if he fucked your boyfriend or whatever he did out of game. That has nothing to do with my game and neither I, nor but other player besides the two of you care. Go fight him on discord. Go fight him on Roll 20 or min max.net or one of those other games he’s in or go over to his house with a giant boom box for all I care, just stop interrupting my game to fight him.

https://youtu.be/x7-165hJAis?si=Dhy53YzJC88XLWqB [Embed]

None of this is an argumen
>>187210
>I've personally felt you've been trying to run him off to be frankly honest
I can see how it might seem that way. Ive felt hes been enabled to try and run me off this whole time, to the tacit acceptance of everyone else.
>I dont remember what he did that day
I do
>excessive and annoying
When you get to the point where you're using explosives to stop a wildfire,...
>neother Asuka nor discord
Its all the same people
>Stop
I'm trying ;_;

>>187205
>Posey deciding to spam the thread with endless "sneed spam."
I was doing that because Brie's player was randomly kvetching and making cryptic, vaguely-threatening posts and then deleting them, and otherwise trying to bait my engagement.
Maybe it wasn't the best response, but it's what I would do in any other context.
>I was upset when Brie's player is out of character criticizing another player for trying to actually play the game. And this is another thing. Brie loves to focus on what other players do and criticize them for it. Not in character. Sometimes it's valid and sometimes it isn't. Either way just shut the fuck up and let people play the game, Jesus. Focus on your own damn character and let Silver talk.
This.
>Don't be a faggot and you won't be stolen from
If my character is stolen from, am I supposed to just not respond? What would you do?
Remember what Posey said to Mala about not descending into barbarism? This is what causes that.
>3. Posey would have no way to know how it was lost, as these things could absolutely fall out of the bag
There is only one available character who is a self-described thief, and even if that's not set in stone, she wouldn't just give up on it.
>Anything to the contrary is just metagaming
She'd kill the most obvious candidate, and if that didn't work she'd move onto the next one and/or make their corpses say where her equipment is. She would not just give up.
>Posey then wanted to refuse to negotiate any kind of agreement where it counts as a decent potion of her share
I didn't say that.
>She just expects to get it as pure profit for herself without the rest of the party getting something in compensation?
I didn't say that either.
Nobody else even said they wanted the crown. Nobody else asked to keep it. Posey has the Tiara just like Kira has her pearl necklace.
>get conspired against and stolen from by the party (You) stole the crown from
If this happens, I will respond however I deem is appropriate.
>Your character is about to be pickpocketed twice in the same day
If he pickpockets me, so help me god I will kill him and anypony who gets in my way of killing him.
If you don't like that, you can just throw me out of the game right now, because I absolutely won't tolerate him stealing from me. I could tolerate all his other bullshit, but that is not something that I am going to compromise on. It makes me livid. I would not be able to continue playing in good faith knowing that he has stolen something from my character.
>>187210
>I've personally felt you've been trying to run him off to be frankly honest
I feel that way too, and tbh if it weren't for completing the quest I might've left already. I really dislike having to interact with him, which is why I have stopped interacting with him altogether for the past two months. I don't meme at him. I don't reply to him. I don't bother him. I don't antagonize him. I don't even read his posts. I have held up my end of the deal not to bother him, but he has not done the same.
>>187212
>do not remember what it was that allegedly set you off that day
It was calling his character cute and posting cute bat pony pics. That's literally it.
>reducing me to such an exasperated state that it was actively harmful to my mental health, and I had to step away from the game and we still haven’t recovered from it.
I'm sorry bro...
>your reactions are consistently so excessive and annoying that whatever it was you had to say is entirely lost on outside observers
He also has the tendency to delete what he posts after about ~30 minutes (long enough for people to see it) to avoid the consequences of his actions.
>Asuka
Who the fuck is Asuka, and why does that matter?
See, this is part of what bugs me: he keeps dragging unsolicited off-site drama into this game. I didn't ask for that. He's done this dozens if not hundreds of times.

>>187215
>Nobody else even said they wanted the crown
Not true
Leaving the rest, trying to stop.

>>187215
Dude, I’m saying that if you just don’t be a faggot with cursed items like the crown and with loot in general then I’m not going to let anyone steal from your character. Jesus Christ, chill. You hate stealing so much that you decided to DM a character out of nothing just so she could successfully steal from you. We get it. Calm down. Take a Valium if you have to.

>>187205
>This player, every single night, wants to have some kind of correction "They wouldn't use American trucks" or "there should only be one cathedral in a city and not two" or "You can freeze to death at 40 degrees" (when I say that shivering was caused by mental degradation and not the cold) and this is so consistent that any time we play, I can expect that he'll post two+ hours after things have started, and there's going to be some sort of correction like that somewhere.
I'm sorry. I can see why being so pedantic, especially in public, can be exhausting to someone else. I'll just roll with your descriptions, and if I really think there is a bad discrepancy then I'll privately mention it. Being a nagging editor is just unfun.

>>187213
>Ive felt hes been enabled to try and run me off this whole time, to the tacit acceptance of everyone else.
Don't misrepresent us. I won't get into the drama of it but we did stand up for you at the time and it's irritating that you forgot this, since apparently you cannot forget the grudge itself.

>>187215
>She'd kill the most obvious candidate, and if that didn't work she'd move onto the next one and/or make their corpses say where her equipment is. She would not just give up.
sigh
>Nobody else even said they wanted the crown. Nobody else asked to keep it. Posey has the Tiara just like Kira has her pearl necklace.
The party consensus was that the crown was too dangerous to be entrusted to any one pony, and that we would ensure its safe storage, study or destruction after the mission. Amidst different counterproposals Cavaliere wanted Mala to hold onto the tiara because he seems trustworthy enough. We only very reluctantly allowed Posey to have it AFTER retconning Posey putting it on, and mainly because we just wanted to get on with it.
[YouTube] Get on with it! (Monty Python) [Embed]
>If you don't like that, you can just throw me out of the game right now, because I absolutely won't tolerate him stealing from me. I could tolerate all his other bullshit, but that is not something that I am going to compromise on. It makes me livid. I would not be able to continue playing in good faith knowing that he has stolen something from my character.
Stealing from another player is enough of a grey area that I am okay with not allowing it, I guess. Posey notably did not have that reaction to a NPC pickpocket; however, the money is worth much less to her.

>>187218
>Posey notably did not have that reaction to a NPC pickpocket
See >>178141 →

>>187215
Dude, he has been leaving you and your character alone, both in and out of character. What has there been since Christmas? Nothing, I think, or even for the week before then. Then when he made that post you decided to empty your pockets of spaghetti, cast it upon the ground, point a finger, issue a fatwa against Brie and his player, and scream "I'll kill you! I'll kill you! I'll kill you!" I wish I were exaggerating that last part, that's what you did.

For God's sake, your character was never stolen from, Reread Brie's post. He's saying "I had this idea two months ago. I've decided not to go through with it because I don't care any more." He's posting about it because it didn't happen and he's abandoned the intent to do so, and he believes that being open about this former plot will help him on his growth. It didn't happen. If it had, he wouldn't be openly posting about it.

As you yourself have pointed out, PvP is banned, and stealing is a type of PvP. No theft from a player can happen without my say so and I never said so. He came up with the idea and messaged me about it on Discord in November two or three days after the cursed crown fiasco happened. At that time I was seriously questioning if it was right for Posey to take the crown at all, and the incident was still fresh. He messaged me while I was in a museum in Delft in the Netherlands. The only thing I had to say was to comment on how his character did not have maxed-out sleight of hand, when even a joke NPC character I made had max sleight, and meanwhile I went on to read about Willem of Orange's leading of the Dutch revolt in Delft, and about how the first European knock offs of Chinese porcelain were made in Delft. I never said "yeah, this happened."

Your reaction yesterday was on the scale to make Brie look like the reasonable, non-spergy one who can control his emotions and doesn't get triggered easily. Read the room. Silver - the most levelheaded and inert of the entire set of players here - posted to tell you that Brie has actually improved pretty significantly over the last few weeks, and please don't start more drama because you'll just piss off GM and stop us from playing. Read >>187218 where all he can say is sigh. For God's sake, you sound like a Muslim when someone draws a cartoon about Mohammed. No one has stolen your non-existent item. Calm down. Go outside. Pet a dog. I don't know. Do whatever you need to get over this slight that never happened.

And there's that time that you were upset that I was out meeting with a friend and my family to eat dinner, while Posey was on hold as I was trying to get the party together, so you DMed your own solo encounter. You created a character to pickpocket Posey, and predicably, Posey lost that encounter and got pickpocketed. You expect all of us to take your hypersensitivity to your character being stolen from seriously after that? That would be like a Muslim drawing a comic of Muhammed being drawn in a comic... including actually drawing the panel of Muhammed in his own comic... Then within the universe of the comic strip Gert Wilders or Trump gets elected and all muslims get deported. Are we supposed to assume that that Muslim hates depictions of the Prophet Muhammed and will go full Charlie Hebdo on anyone who does?

>>187218
>it's irritating that you forgot this
I havent forgotten, thats not not even accurate

>>187220
Okay, I overreacted. I'm sorry. I'm done with the matter.

>You expect all of us to take your hypersensitivity to your character being stolen from seriously after that?
Yes, I do.
Rolling a random encounter table against myself and losing 100 gp is not the same as another PC taking a magic item. That's like saying because you blew 100 dollars at a casino you would tolerate your neighbor stealing your car.
And if Posey ever met that same pony that I randomly generated again, she would kill her on site.
>What has there been since Christmas? Nothing
He tends to delete his posts right after he makes them.
>you sound like a Muslim
Idk, amputation for theft is low-key based.

I delete my posts because later on I see what Ive written and feel shitty. I'm not trying to avoid accountability, Im trying to clean up the pee puddles I sometimes leave around

>>187223
>again?
Im trying to put around 5-10 minutes between my posts
But anyway, this bears clarification.
Yes, I shitpost and then delete it, because the thread doesnt need any more shitposts but I "have a really good one", and cant resist. The irrelevant and unnecessary posts I delete quickly. The adversarial and belligerent posts I try to delete when I have come back later and realized I expressed myself poorly, am unintentionally escalating, or otherwise being destructive.

>>187215
>Spamming is what I would do in any other context
Maybe on 4chan, Roll20, Giants in the Playground, and the myriad discord servers you’re in, the administrators and game masters just love seeing you spam on their respective websites and appreciate that you do that instead of alerting them and letting them handle it. But this is my thread, my game, and my website. And here, do not spam. You see how I constantly bitch at Brie for making innumerable small posts, and unlike you, he isn’t intentionally trying to disrupting the experience for everyone else. You are. Even the constant stream of Cyrillic bot spam at least has the defense that 1. It’s only one or two posts at a time, and 2. They are presumably trying to advertise drywall in Cornwall, or boost Google metrics, unlike what you do which is intentionally destroy the thread. You have told the rest of us that we must respect your hypersensitivity to your character being stolen from without debate or qualification, even though the rest of us see it as either morally grey or moderately annoying, and that if your character is stolen from you will kill every member of the party until you find the stolen item, endlessly kill the PCs of the responsible player, and or quit the game, and we must accept this. Will you please respect in kind that spamming (and wasting of the millennial gets) is one of my triggers that I absolutely despise?

If you spam again, so help me God, I will unleash such terrible vengeance upon Posey that you will reee until Judgement Day. First, a swarm of gypsies will descend upon Posey like locusts from the heavens. And they will take her saddlebag and pickpocket her. But it won’t be that simple, oh no. First, they will ask Posey to sign their petitions, then they would do the “accidental bump into,” then they would have a child annoyingly do some stupid dance as a distraction, and annoy her with all kind of nonsense. Then Posey would receive magical messengers telling her that her UPS package would not be delivered unless she inserted her credit card information. Then she’d receive a letter from her master in Magehold telling her that she’s been laid off from her position as an apprentice mage and replaced with an HB1 Visa worker from Hindia, then another letter from a court telling her that squatters have occupied whatever property she claims as hers, including both the cottage and the catacombs, and the State has given it to the squatters per adverse possession doctrine, and then another letter informing her that Gloomy has been taken by CPS, and then stilll another letter from the Revenue Service telling her she owes back taxes on all of the loot she has acquired. If she has a cart or vehicle, or hell, even Mason’s car, it will have its catalytic converter stripped by zebras and will be broken into to steal any coins or firearms. Her cottage will be burgled by addicts and any items she had their stolen (these burglars will also steal from the squatters, for what it’s worth. Then she will receive a call from Elijah Goldstein of First Zion Global Bank, telling her that she’s being charged an overdraft fee after her Nord VPN subscription fee, and her purchase from and membership in Sam’s Club, put her below zero. And no, Posey has never had any association of any kind with Sam’s Club. After all of this is accomplished, that dreads bat pony, the one who stole from her before, will sneak up behind her and whisker in her ear “thank you for your contribution to the Bat Pony Defense League. She will then turn herself in to a nearby police officer, who will laugh and tell her that they don’t prosecute minor thefts in Baltimare anymore. Then the police officer will arrest Posey on a warrant for not paying a fee on an unleashed dog charge (her “puppies”). If after all of this, Posey choses to give up on her crusade and enter merciful oblivion, any new character would find that, to their horror, they have inherited Posey’s student loans - because not even in death do the student loans end. Don’t spam my thread

>>187226
Okay I won't sneedpost anymore.

>>187226
>my website
Woah, wait. You're Elway? Cool. Though while I have you here, you must admit that what you call "soccer" is actually the real football, you know the sport were the majority of the time the players are touching the ball with their feet, not their hands. Just putting it out there. Maybe you should make petition to have the name changed. ^^

>The rest
+1 for creativity. I chuckled. ^^

>>187232
Pupper owns the site, not Elway.

>>187233
Thank you. I was just joking. ^^

Uhm, in that posession is 9/10ths of the law, and in that my posts absolutely dominate both the recent posts, threads, and the percentage of posts for the last few months, its MY board Xp

>>187232
>S***er
…

OOOOOONE MILLION YEARS DUNGEON!
No trial! Straight to the dungeon!
https://youtu.be/krHMzFIpTlg?si=PX58zHZCRp9d-e7h [Embed]

>>187226
Oh, I forgot to add that if Posey spams I’ll have her stallion stolen by another white mare with a thicker ass.

>>187232
Hey, I have a potential idea that requires Virgin Flame to seduce or kidnap Dust

>>187235
Screeches

>>187237
I RESENT BEING USED AS A BARGAINING CHIP

Do I really spam that much? Sneedposting was a one-off thing.

>>187238
YOU’RE NOT A BARGAINING CHIP! YOU’RE LOOT! Now stand still so Vir can put the bag over you!

>>187239
Honestly, you dont. Honestly, Im a hypersensitive fuck that sometimes simply cant handle the bantz. Honestly, I'm sorry for everything, and if I was intuiting, I think GM ending on "stop sneeding" is an attempt to conclude with an otherwise dismissible issue, so we can get back to what we came here for.

>>187240
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>187245
I mean, he's literally Dust. How valuable can dust be

>>187247
In 3.5e, the price of a slave is the slave's CR squared, times 100 gp. A character with class levels has a CR equal to their level. A character with an NPC class has a CR equal to their level minus 1 (or a fraction of that, if lvl 1).

Dust's base slave/ransom value is about 3,600 gp, since he's a lvl 6 Cleric (CR 6). He could go for more, depending on the buyer who wanted something specific, if you were buying from (((neogi))) who would try to extract extra value from the buyer. He probably wouldn't sell for anything above 3600 gp on the Thayan slave market (which is similar to what they would have going on in Magehold).
A Necromancer would probably pay no more than 50-100 gp for his corpse, unless that Necromancer could cast Create Undead and benefit from his class levels, in which case they could be persuaded to pay about half his cost as a living slave, but only if the seller/body-snatcher is aware of this fact.

Assuming Dust weighs as much as a 500 pound Zebra, he's worth about 50-100 gp in meat. This is relevant if you wanted to boil a giant pot of Zebras to summon Dalmosh, in which case it would take about 100 Zebras to call him.
(It's easier if you use fell-animate Cloudkill on a village, and then command the resulting zombies to boil themselves. Dalmosh isn't a picky eater)

His organs (eyes, heart, brain, etc) could sell for maybe another 5 gp, if sold to a caster interested in using them as spell components. Humanoid body parts are worth very little 3.5e, probably to discourage players from going full cyberpunk and trying to sell the eyes of every goblin they kill.

>>187247
There's value in defiance,....

And yes, I shared a number of unkind words to Silver. Givr him an inspiration point ffs

The fun/exploitablr part about taking a 20 is that youre volunteering to fail any other check for the duration of the 20 skill action.
So, in order to not ruin what he's doing with the bomb, he would have to auto-fail a dexterity check, listen checks, spot checks,....

You can't take 20 when disarming a bomb. Taking 20 assumes you failed the check several times before succeeding it.
>Taking 20 means you are trying until you get it right, and it assumes that you fail many times before succeeding. Taking 20 takes twenty times as long as making a single check would take.
It means failing up to 19 times in a row before succeeding by statistic inevitability.

>>187277
Oh contraire. Taking a 20 means A. You arent in a timecrunch/battle situation and B. You're taking all the necessary time to do your absolute best work at the exclusion of all other skills and faculties for the necessary period which technically is 20 rounds, but because its a high explosive I would COMMIT 20 MINUTES

20 minutes being 200 rounds

>>187278
No. You are confusing it with taking 10. Taking 20 means rolling again until you inevitably succeed, but sparing the spamrolls.
>"I keep pounding at the door until it breaks. It will give eventually."
Taking 20 is basically "if at first you don't succeed, try try again".

Taking 10 means doing something carefully so you get an average roll. You do this when your modifier is high enough to succeed on a 10, but not high enough to succeed below 10.
>"I take time to disarm this deadly trap, not leaving anything to chance."
Taking 10 is doing something carefully.

It's written very clearly in the SRD. Go read it. You can't take 20 on a check where the consequences of failure would kill you. Or rather, you CAN take 20, but you would just kill yourself before you succeeded.

>>187280
If GM wants me to roll, I'll roll

>>187281
Maybe check if your modifier is high enough to succeed on a 10 before you blow yourself up.

>>187282
Dont worry, I got this ^_~
Taking a 20 when you have a 10 modifier means you can take a 10 as many times as it takes to get a 20 numbnuts

Brie has a 12 btw

>>187283
Look at the source material again and site the passage for taking 20. Read it carefully.

Taking 20 assumes failing multiple times. It's clearly written as such

>>187285
And if GM asks me to roll, I WILL. Rosey already ran off out of the blast range

>>187284
If your modifier is 12, and you would succeed on a 22, you could take 10 without issue.

Even if your modifier were 9001, you would still blow yourself up if you took 20. Taking 20 guarantees failure the first several times.

>>187286
You are misunderstanding how taking 20 works.

>>187286
>disarming a bomb
Technically speaking, Brie isnt disarming the bomb. He is attempting to not activate the bomb while harvesting the explosives for later use. Important distinction.

>>187288
And you care too much for published rules

>>187289
That still results in the bomb going off if you fail, so taking 20 would just set off the bomb.

>>187291
Then apparently Brie simply hasnt blown up yet, cuz hes well committed to motion

>>187290
Weren't you just taking about the "exploitable" rules in this post right here >>187276

I'm only correcting you because what you're about to do threatens to blow up the entire plane.
You're a rogue: Learn how skillchecks work.

>>187293
Yes, your opinion has been noted. Yes, it is technically "according to published material" more correct.
As I have and will continue to do so, displayed that the generality of the published.material is insufficient, less than well resourced, and subject to refinement, I have faith in GM to adjudicate fairly, including if he decides that whoopsie game over for Brie. If you have any more comments about it, please forward them to GM.
And if youre GM playkng possum (doubtful), then I think this is the most reasonable way I could manage this.

After all, the torpedo was Silver's idea

Let me explain further why I am confident in GM. I have detailed pages of plans and aspirations for Brie, Lacey, other characters, for missions and game sessions. He knows I am committed to making the game fun for everyone, inasmuch as I can.
And in that the torpedo was another player's idea that I as a player was trying to make amends with, I do very much doubt he will blow Brie's face off.

And, that you want to see it happen anyway is also noted. This is my final post on the matter ^_^

I missed the related exchange, but somehow I intuit it went a little like this
https://youtube.com/shorts/y4MAtleTvJ0?si=klVYv-TQGDZh4MWV [Embed]

Attempting to phrase this as delicately as possible.

WotC published THEIR rules for DnD. Im not interested in playing THEIR DnD

And for clarification, pages of aspirations and intentions are NOT intended to validate or justify ANYTHING. GM has learned to reveal nothing and comment little.
Having said, what I mean to emphasize is that,... well gosh darn it I didnt think that going with Silver's idea (admitting taking a 20 was on me, but I'll re-emphasize my "20 minutes not 20 rounds, taking a 10 until its a high enough roll?" idea right now. K.
Point being, I am not in the habit of accidentally blowing up my characters, and I wouldnt have even bothered with the torpedo at all without concincing. Im especially not in the habit of doing so when planning years worth of aspirations that simply aren't *possible* without his survival. Sure you could say my bad, and if GM does I'll take it. But how about we stop trying to cite rules to get eachother killed maybe?

I don't believe you understand the broader balance implications of removing the limitations for taking 20 on skill checks.

>>187315
You may be right, and allow me to emphasize A. It's not something I would ever have done outside of these circumstances, specitic to context both in-game and out. B. Its ABSOLUTELY not something I would entertain EVER with an explosive, appreciating the e3.5 specifics. Without intending to excuse fault, this isnt the first time that previous/later edition concepts have led me awry. Taking a 20 USED to be the skill check equivalent of a ritual cast spell, where even if you dont have a slot you can cast it. THATS what I meant when I said taking a 20, fully expecting 20 minutes from the outset, cuz you sacrifice time for finesse.
C. Im vociferously against the rule being interpreted as I have attempted to going forward and am REALLY (i mean reeeeeeealllyy) at GM's mercy on this one

>>187290
But while reemphasizing this, I will make playfull illiterations about how you MIGHT say that Brie is facefirst with a giant pile of "Does GM want to ruin my day, and potentially everyone else's?", which I have been going to great (dude) lengths to ensure that even if Im not playing right now, I'm seeking that his answer to that question is "No".
So while GM may want to explode all over Brie's face, this is not the correct context.

>>187316
>Without intending to excuse fault, this isnt the first time that previous/later edition concepts have led me awry
Read the PHB.
Or the SRD. It's all available online.
>Taking a 20 USED to be the skill check equivalent of a ritual cast spell, where even if you dont have a slot you can cast it. THATS what I meant when I said taking a 20, fully expecting 20 minutes from the outset, cuz you sacrifice time for finesse.
Where is this written? I don't see it in the 2e books.
I don't think that's how ritual casting worked in 2e either. 2e had advanced ritual casting, which is more similar to 3.5e incantations.
>C. Im vociferously against the rule being interpreted as I have attempted to going forward
Then why would you do it now, instead of just taking 10 normally?

What you are asking for is the benefits of taking 10, with a net +10 modifier.

>>187317
You could also just not do it, if you found out the thing you were trying to do didn't make sense in the first place.

>>187319
[I]And I am quite confident that GM will recognize this as an ILL intended consequence (unlike the time Rosey deliberatrly out the crown on) of a good faith attempt to enable other players to make their own plans and tactics, and your incessant insistance that this blow up in everyone's face could not be more apparent.
Tl;dr. I get it, it was a poor decision. I know it, he knows it, you know it. End of fucking story.

>>187316
It's not set in stone, and ignorance of this rule is reason enough to retcon the action. Brie could instead take 10, or if that won't cut it past the check then he could just stop before accidentally blowing himself up.

>>187321
This.

Or we could just decide that the rest of us are away from the plane while he disarms the bomb, which is what we should do anyway because we don't even know what the skill DC is yet.

>>187323
>the rest are away from the bomb
Nonononono, Brie started this well before ANYPONE was clear.
If this goes off, happy trails fren

>>187321
What about "Let GM decide" is so hard to grasp?

>>187324
Well, the implications of a failed check don't begin until the check is complete, and it should take at least a few minutes to make the check, so the rest of us have time to leave.

>>187326
Interesting. A moment ago you were emphatic about it being a default auto fail.
Wonder what changed

>>187327
Nothing changed. Those circumstances are not mutually exclusive.
>>187324
Talking is a free action, and all we did was talk. We have plenty of time to leave the vehicle.

>>187328
You seem awfully confident of what GM will decide. Or worried, I suppose. I have faith. ^_^

>>187321
>ignorance of this rule is reason enough to retcon the action
This
It would be like if I cast Lesser Planar Ally (takes 10 minutes to cast), but then I found out before the ally appeared that I don't actually know the spell lesser planar ally, so in that case the results of the spell wouldn't be revealed and we just wouldn't know what creature the deity sends because it didn't happen.
>>187329
I didn't say that.

>>187330
How badly do you want this to go off? Be honest?

Fyi, Im about to start getting creative with what things will shut you up about this, for the last tine let GM decide.

>>187332
>Im about to start getting creative
What is that supposed to mean?

I doubt Rosey knows enough about torpedoes to know to vacate the area tbh, that looks like metafagging

>>187335
Posey knows what a bomb is.

>>187336
Debatable. She may be familiar with the bombs in a conceptual sense, but you'd likely have to make a case (or a knowledge check) for her knowledge of state-of-the-art military-grade weaponry

Meanwhile, Brie sometimes smuggles these, and would know inherently whether or not he could even attempt to extract the torpedo's explosives, whichnis yet another layer to my faith

>>187337
Part of Posey's mission is surveying and analyzing the military capabilities of this continent to form magical countermeasures to conquer it. She knows a bomb when she sees one.
>>187338
>would know inherently
Do you have ranks in the relevant knowledge skill? If not, you would know just as much as I do. There is no reason why I should have to roll a check if you don't

>>187342
>+12
I dunno, does he? His background sure justifies it

>>187342
>Posey's mission
Oooh, and I'm sure she's been at it for a super-long period of time ^_^
Unlike Brie, who would have decades of experience in and around this type of thing. Keep arguing, Ill just keep.making you look dumb

>>187345
She's been preparing for this mission for literal decades, studying and making petitions to earn the privilege of being the one responsible with conquering Equestria, in addition to her prior military service on the Arcturian front.
Posey using archaic weapons like swords and bows is an ideological choice, not from lack of familiarity with modern weapons.
>>187343
Disable Device is not a knowledge skill.
>His background sure justifies it
So does mine.

>>187346
Good. Then we can wait for GM to decide, like Ive been saying ^_^

>>187348
It's not really relevant to the earlier discussion.
Whatever.

I liked it better when you two were not talking to each other....

>>187363
Sigh. Okay. Ive been trying to keep it constructive but if thats how (you) feel then I will oblige.

In exchange, I dont want to fucking hear it. If you dont think what Im doing works, tell GM and fuck off from me. Deal?
*extended hoof*

>>187391
Im kidding. As I indicated, this wasnt a request. It was a barter. ^_^

>>187398
And no, thats NOT an invitation to bombard GM with "I dont agree with this". You know who Im talking to

>>187092
>That is one of the few thing I know that will cheer him up. There has been a dearth of it in the game lately, and I don't think it's a coincidence.
The game had one instance of sex in 2024, and only one: Silver and Jubilosa, some time around July. There was one and only one instance in 2023, Posey and August around about October. In 2022, the last instance of sex for Silver before 2024 was around March. The final instance of sex with Amber was in the January of 2022 - three years ago. Dark Star’s last instance was in 2021.

>>187446
Okay. I'll make you another deal. Ill figure out how to detail Brie and Lacey sex
Are you interested? This is also a barter

>>187447
By "figure out" I mean "how to do it aesthetically and artfully, but also in a way I (probably?) Am not gonna feel.embarrassed about tomorrow"

>whats with you and barter all of a sudden
Well, the RP contract isnt in effect, I'm covering my bases and efforts. My good graces arent free after all.
Ebracing Lacey's spirit, while also giving everyone a free look into what's to come

Alright. Fuck it. Flashback time, yes

>approximately 6-7 years ago
>Not sure yet. But this is live so Im going with 7 cuz its a good number
Brie is his,... benefactor's,... up and coming assistant, on a venture in Everfree.
The Night court is like menzoberranzan (iykyk) with dozens of multi-layered, very detailed hierarchies of families, and political groups,... you have to be into that to really get the nuance, which Brie isnt (Lacey is).
In any case, during a routine 'product transfer'... thats when they met. At first.

When he first SAW her was weeks before, and his mentor deliberately and expressely said "Watch out for them" discouragingly. But that was when she also first saw him. And, without any reservations she waled boldly up to him (to the chagrine of her bodyguard, cuz shes still an easily hostageable minor at this point [sppiler]foreshadowing
I was saying. She boldly and defiantly (theres a subtext with her defiance of many family rules and expectations) walked up to him, smelled him (somewhat aggressovely if Im being honest), looked (slightly knowingly) in his eyes, and walked off without a word, to the very disapproving looks of her bodyguard. Dont worry, he'll be dead soon.

>formatting errors
Eh, yiu get what I was trying for

Lacey of the Row family is not your ordinary girl, and not just cuz her family has those funny eyes. Theres a steeped tradition going back several hundred years, if there ever is cause to go to that level of detail.
For now, rest with the knowledge that she is technically speaking, the sole and exclusive heir to a traditional family of bats who have generationally been involved in balck market shenanigen and chicanery.

Back to (flashback) present. When Brie was pfficially INTRODUCED to Lacey, that happened a few werks later, when a rivals organization decided it would be an apt business move yo try and kidnap the sole heir of the Row family.

(If you arent intuiting that this ends with a sex scene with some awkward questions about consent,... i mentioned stunning fist already)

>>187456
Anyway, and yes Ill stop for now, thats when Lacey got HWR CM, while he was incapacitated, erect, inside her, and helpless

8 consecutive posts

>>187459
Yep. Not much to do late at night other than think. Theyre in a row, so just pretend its one big effort post

I will endeavor to condense my posts better. I can explain why I do it, but feel itnwill fall on deaf ears, so,... just gonna continue with the flashback I guess ^_~

I still havent worked ALL the details out, but basically its a lure, entrap, execute the security and abscond with the payload (Lacey) type scheme, for ransom in whatever form. And ngl, it would have worked. But that was the day that Brie and Lacey met.
At first, it was him coming to her aid, over the corpse of her (rather incompetent) bodyguard. I mean come on, you should have known what was up,...
After the alley was littered with blood and bodies (and maybe a few traces of her juices cuz GOD does she love fighting fr), then she attacked him. At first it was combat, but it gradually transitioned with an air of deliberate lewdness.

Ill spell it out in detail in a later post, but basically he tried to refuse her, she hit him with 4 co secutive stunning blows, came, and then said "See you around"

Theme music
https://youtu.be/Upy4rB8V3T4?si=PzHQU_h0HnzjMsNF [Embed]

You thought I was done? Lol

The thing is, what Brie didnt know enough of body language and behavioral cues to register (he did register, but in his loins) was that that first time they locked eyes, her eyes dilated wildly. If you dont know what that means, look it up.
For him, this also created a surreal effect. Again, he wasnt co sciously aware of the ramifications, but to be an effective "scrub" for a nobody changeling teying to scrape out a meal, and to be looked at like the most delicious and enticing... I did say I digress.
Anyway, it's hard to pinpoint with any specificity what it was about him that drew her so, but she effectively 'decided' with that first glance.
Shes a little on the dommy side, but only to get him to make HER the sub.
Yes, this is the scope of the content I can provide to GM, and I have prrferred artfag commissioners.
Lets go

>>187446
Perhaps 2025 will be the year everyone starts bangin'

>>187446
Hey! You're forgetting the time when Posey raped Dust last year.

>>187468
*Almost raped Dust. Kira pulled her off of him and snekhugged her before she could besmirch his honor.

>>187469
No wonder there's no sex if you keep cockblocking us.

>>187470
Maybe Posey will find more willing participants on the island

>>187471
That's not the same

About the repetitious posts argument,... does it matter? I mean yeah, we can argue "excessive", "undisciplined", etc, but the structure of /vx/ (and the site, but being specific) is to a degree of enormative potential capacity that "wanton posts" (to be discouraged, for sure) are irrelevant and negligable.
>its annoying
Okay, lets unpack that.
Are player SERIOUSLY about to criticize other players for being annoying? After everything?
Okay, Ill work it into my list.
I just wanna tell cool stories with my friends.

>>187474
Yes.

Last night and this morning, you’ve made 13 posts, although judging by post numbers, you’ve made several more that you’ve since deleted. These posts contain between them 4730 characters, which means a post (limit of 6000 characters) could have been made with 1270 characters to spare. Your 13+ posts could have been condensed into one post.

This number of superfluous posts frankly makes threads much harder to read. There are many occasions where in order to respond to a player, or to remember some detail, I have to back read through recent parts of the thread. Please remember that I am often doing things IRL and can’t reply constantly, at least, in a manner that is satisfactory, so I have to back read. There are five ways to view a thread. I can look from the board view, which shows the most recent 6 posts, I can use last 50 posts, last 100 posts, and last 200. I can try to view the whole thread, but this is usually overly taxing on my phone or computer. When there are so many frankly slop posts, they clutter the thread, and make it much harder to find what I need to find. Often, I have to expand the field of view to see the posts I need to see. And this really is a frequent occurrence. I’d love to see the most recent relevant replies, but I can’t do that when the entire last six are nothing. I suspect other players have the same or similar problems.

Second, this kills threads. I like to make new threads on odd millennial posts. This is an occupied game tradition going back more than half a decade at this point. And it isn’t just an arbitrary number. Post limits exist for a reason. When a thread has too many posts, it will have difficulty loading on many devices. Threads have life expectancies. And I often like to keep the same thread around for a while, especially when I like the OP image. And I fucking hate missing the millennial post for a new thread in a way I cannot express. Mounds of meaningless wasted posts just bury through this post count and kill threads.

And further, I suspect that you probably want what you post to be read, instead of people just seeing the ID and skipping down. People would be more interested in what you have to say if you didn’t type out and immediately post every single thought that came to mind, but if you communicated only what you really wished to communicate to others, and maybe did so in fewer posts.

It reminds me of Elway doing an audit of his Fallout Equestria review, and finding that about 40% of all of the character volume was Nigel’s rants. It reduces the quality of the experience for everyone.

> Okay, lets unpack that.
>Are player SERIOUSLY about to criticize other players for being annoying? After everything?
>Okay, Ill work it into my list.
>I just wanna tell cool stories with my friends.
Yes. Absolutely. When something is annoying us, it’s hard to focus on good things. Talking about the behaviors annoy you is the first, critical step towards stopping that annoyance, and improving the quality of the experience for everyone. A game like this is not any one person’s story. It is everyone’s. And when everyone else’s stories are buried beneath small posts, it reduces the quality of the experience.

>>187476
You are absolutely correct

>>187476
Im not trying to be cheeky, but lately my activity across the sote has been widespread.
And lets say do limit myself, are you suggesting I wont instead get flak for writing a multi-page post than I will for a bunch of small ones? Im fine with engaging in discipline, but theres a variety of disciplines that are being neglected. Let's also not forget that I have been asking, appealing, and in some cases begging for guidance, assistance, something. And yes, you have figured out that the Sphynx approach is the most insular when dealing with me.
Are you saying I shouldn't post backstory to the OOC thread?
I'm not trying to capitalize on or get you to devote any more time to the thread than you are comfortable with.

Okay. If it isn't going to be a problem, I will condense my particularly late-night posting as much as Im able. I know I'm not unique in being tickled to talk about my character, and the inability to play for... however long kills me. I like telling stories to people assuming they're receptive to then, and if you get me going I can be so long winded that Elway's mightiest Elway-post would be like "No, stop, please, it hurts, how do I even feel pain?". And yes, I do take satifaction in lengthy diatribes and opinion posts even (usually) when no one replies. I know it's well stated,...
Until I come back and think of a better way to say it, or something I didnt include, or any of a dozen ways I could refine it.
And,... Ive lost ALOT of 'good' effort posts in my day. Thats why I have such atrocious spelling, its cuz as soon as Ive made my point I want it sent so that any number of mishaps can be avoided, neglecting to look back over it cuz one absent slip of the thumb,....
Im not making excuses, and Im not saying I won't work on it. Im just saying Im trying to keep myself occupied while waiting for the next session, or incidental involvement, or what have you.

>>187476
Theres a couple things here I wanna touch on
>when something is annoying us, it is hard to focus on anything
Im acutely aware, if you recall the months pf Dbaggery I had to.gp through to get one in particular to quit.
Not trying to go back over that, just suggesting that one olayer criticizing me for lots of posts kinda doesnt hit quite the same. I'm not planning to oppose your desires/directives, but still pointing out when the pot called me black.
I am acutely aware of how posts get buries, because mine do. Again, referencing the camera which I had to wait over a month on, and sti havent gotten a simple yes or no as to whether or not Brie can have taken photos of the stilts monster and the starfish when I fell aslep while you were controlling.
Thats it, a simple yes or no.
What I am getting at is that - and I'm not being insistent with this, but am being assertive - I will be happy to fervently apply all the things over time. But, heres that barter again, I need an agreement with (you) that I'm not gonna get overlooked, ignored, or otherwise neglected as a player. I dont think anyone here appreciates their time being wasted or not valued.

Elsewhere, distant, and entirely unrelated to any meta, Lacey is pouring over documents, ledgers, notebooks, and a few maps. Her plans were just at the verge of fruition; everything was set in place with all associable fish barrels aligned.
All she needed now was that one spark, a trigger, after which. The only problem is, but couldnt be by her hoof, or anyone immediatrly involved.

Meta P.S. There are a number of times I delete posts specifically to combine and add to them

Ninjas'rules for RP posting.
Main thread:
- No double-posting, except in cases where someone posts simultanously, and I feel necessary to add, like the follow-up sentence to Silver's attempt to.get Posey to open up
- Deletions and edits only if I know I can be quick and people dont seem to be posting

OOC
- posts to be restricted to small paragraphs at minimum, and separated ideally by 30 to 60 minutes, with potential revisions especially during late night, but ending in the morning with several effort posts

Yes, my 13 posts of 5000 works could fit in one post, but theyre spread out, and the inspiration to convey an idea that Im gonna have later doesnt occurr to me when Im posting whatever thing I feel justified in posting 'now'. Guaranteed I'm gonna think of better/more ways to phrase this post before 20 minutes have passed. But yes, sometimes I start an idea at 3am and dont finish it until 10am. But if I don't mention it, I will lose the inspiration/urgency.
If any additions are requested of this list, please advise.

First off, apologies for not being around. Life comes at you fast.
I am in an awkward position. I made what is basically a Necromancer hunter without knowing the party contained a necromancer. I blame no one but myself for not actually looking at the party's composition.
However, Dust's purpose in Equestria is to find out more about supposed rumors of increased necromatic activity, with the idea being it's just Dread League coming out of seclusion/the zeebs just now hearing about this. Side goal is kill any undead and necromancers he comes across. I'm sure you can see where this becomes exceedingly awkward. I don't want to fight Posey, but I also don't want to cheapen Dust's motives or character by suddenly making him okay with this necromancer for reasons. However, this makes the game a little awkward for me currently since I'm the newcomer I don't want to ruin Posey's character. But also everyone's talking about necromancy and even if Dust didn't hear this, he'll recognize what necromancy is. I am unsure how to pursue my character properly in light of this, because he is not going to like this.
I attempted to cut a deal in >>183669 → because of the dreads where Dust acknowledged Posey was a necromancer, but realized that if she actually had connections to this group he's been sent to investigate, she's much more valuable alive than dead (undead than dead?). However, I was shot down because she can't actually raise the dead. This is actually WORSE cause now she's lied about being a necromancer as well as being one. Now Dust is gonna be doubly ticked off at this. So unfortunately, we have to find a way to resolve this (preferably in character) but otherwise Dust is going to start flipping his shit cause undead being summoned.
Suggestions? Thoughts? Preferably ones that don't involve killing Dust and making me go with my backup character cause I don't think GM would like me for it.

>>187669
I’ll repeat what I said to silver when he was upset that Brie didn’t want to disassemble the torpedo: maybe talk about it in character?

>>187670
Reeee that's why I said I'd prefer to resolve it in character! But I can't have Dust start autistically wailing on Posey as my first action back

>>187669
Not to be a dick, but at least one can plug russian into google translate.
Maybe subtitles?

>>187673
Huh?

>>187671
If the party hasn't officially split yet, Brie would quickly and efficiently disable/disarm/pin Dust for attacking another party member. He doesnt stand for that, If you did want to attack.
Not saying I encourage it, nor that GM woukd endorse, but I doubt he would succeed at actually killing her, maybe just causing her pain.
But MY suggestion is:
Okay, Dust figured out she has some ties to necromancy. Might he not want to follow along, perhaps playing possum? She said the scroll came from a master,
.. perhaps she is a drone of a greater necromancer?

>>187669
>>187671
Maybe we can still work things out here. Posey genuinely can't raise the dead on her own, the only reason this is even an option is because of the scroll she has. And if Dust is worried about the scroll, this is its last use.

>>187675
Also this, if she got the scroll from her master, then who is her master?

>>187674
What I meant to say by that was that:
The adherence to zebrican rhymes is many ways impressive, endearing, and sometimes difficult to decipher.

>>187673
READ NIGGA READ

>>187671
Oh please Ziggah, don’t be so simple
Why must resolving conflict be so violent?
Really, you needs must spill no more blood than popping a pimple
I don’t mean to say that you must be silent
And most certainly your character doesn’t need to take a one hour nap
For the true warrior, there is but one field of battle
You must defeat Posey through rhyme and rap
And not just blindly eat grass, like cattle

>>187675
My zigga in celestia, I was saying I DON'T want to attack her. The problem is Dust isn't the subtle type. The idea of the deal he tried to strike is "I will not kill you, but I want information from you as you can give it" with the idea that he'd have to follow her around, also giving him incentive to continue adventuring with the party. Because he has to watch this crazy ass ball of insanity to make sure she doesn't kill anyone.
>>187677
Dust doesn't know about the scroll yet. Dust doesn't know any of this yet. Dust is off to the side praying and such while the party argues about weight limits. My point is the second he walks back over he's gonna have an aneurysm and I need to start damage control.

Is the rhyming really that hard to understand?

>>187680
>>187677 should have been >>187676

>>187681
What if Silver filled Dust in on the plan after he's done his grass inspection?

>>187680
I know, I get that, Im just saying if it happened it wouldnt be as bad as you think. But, heres the scenarios I can suggest from what I know of Dust:
1. Knowing she's a subprdinate necromancer, he could like I said, wait until later to.press the issue. At worst case, he would want her to expend her abilities so more vulnerable when time to confront.
2. He knows she isnt hostile and might be curious as to why she is invved in an otherwise benevolent venture
3. The traveler is a very big fish to first fry

>>187683
Any time yiu have cross-purpose party members, that doesnt mean you can't set aside differences and work together. Granted, it can only be a temporary partnership when all is said and done, but those are some of the best stories; otherwise adversaries and opponents working together and developing a mutual respect even if tomorrow they are destined to be at odds once more

>>187682
That might not be a bad idea. Silver could come over realizing that Dust may be less than happy about the undead aspects of the plan. He might want to bring Kira though. She may be helpful.
This grass sucks though, holy shit. Need better grass.

>>187680
I understand that Dust has autism,
But I don’t think that the character is bent on a party schism
Dust has risen to a position of power in his tribe
But I don’t think they promote like Klingons or through bribe
Instead, conflicts over power and mares (Jennies?)
Are probably resolved through battle of wits and whinnies
He doesn’t need to got axe crazy on Posey
Just make damn sure she can’t get cozy
And if there’s a question on who must stay and who must leave
It’s to be decided by who best, a rhyme can weave

>>187685
>>187682
Is the ostensible confrontation going to occur before the party splits or after? I just wanna know if I need a handy set of plausible explanations and scenarios, or popcorn

>>187686
I want to throttle you. Lovingly, but still throttle.
>>187687
No clue, depends on what everyone else wants

>>187685
Sounds like a good idea. Silver and Kira can comfort the zeeb.

>>187688
Im just saying, Brie can offer alot of good reasons to maintain a ceasefire even without assurances from Rosey to not get spoopy with skeletons. Philosophical reason, emmint reasons, comparative reasons,... if the discussion went down before splitting I might be able to contribute to it jn real time, but appreciate if its better done after/later. To reemphasize, it would make more sense for a confrontation after the skeleton was raised

Heres a smattering of WW2 era cameras.

Fun fact, theyre designed to be rewound before ejecting the film. If it ejected without rewinding, the extreme photosensitivity of the film will ruin most of the uncoiled film.
Which is all of it.

Work has been busy
>>187669
>I made what is basically a Necromancer hunter without knowing the party contained a necromancer. I blame no one but myself for not actually looking at the party's composition.
That's actually more my fault than yours. An anti-necro Cleric is a normal character; and evil Necromancer spy is less-normal. I came into the game saying I was willing to accept the consequences of whatever friction the nature of my character caused, but I didn't actually put very much legwork into doing so.
>dreads where Dust acknowledged Posey was a necromancer, but realized that if she actually had connections to this group he's been sent to investigate, she's much more valuable alive than dead (undead than dead?). However, I was shot down because she can't actually raise the dead. This is actually WORSE cause now she's lied about being a necromancer as well as being one. Now Dust is gonna be doubly ticked off at this. So unfortunately, we have to find a way to resolve this (preferably in character) but otherwise Dust is going to start flipping his shit cause undead being summoned.
Yeah, sorry about that. I should have been more considerate to your characters motivations. I was tired at the time and didn't want to deal with it. Let's work together for a solution that serves both of us.
>Suggestions? Thoughts? Preferably ones that don't involve killing Dust and making me go with my backup character cause I don't think GM would like me for it.
Well, for starters, once Posey gets to lvl 6, which I believe she will be at the end of this adventure, her apprenticeship will be over and she will be set free, no longer having to serve her master. When this happens, she will potentially be open to taking you up on her deal.
Posey is a slave to the Dread League: she does not actually have any loyalty towards them. She could potentially be willing to strike a deal to share secrets to usurp them in the long run.

>>187706
Unironically glad you said this. I wanted to suggest that Dust might know that servitude proxies/apprentices/drones have a restricted freewill, which might temper his response to the siuation, especially with her otherwise well-expressed instances of care and benevolence

>>187671
You can do that. I wouldn't mind.
>>187680
>The idea of the deal he tried to strike is "I will not kill you, but I want information from you as you can give it" with the idea that he'd have to follow her around, also giving him incentive to continue adventuring with the party. Because he has to watch this crazy ass ball of insanity to make sure she doesn't kill anyone.
I would normally have to wait until I leveled up to strike that deal, but if GM is willing to waive that code of conduct I gave myself as a voluntary nerf.
Posey is away from the Dread League, which means they can't use ritual of transference to steal her XP and prevent her from leveling up to keep her enslaved forever: she anticipates that she will level up at the end of this adventure, and finally break free of the control of her masters, after which she could do anything she wants.

>>187709
>You can do that. I wouldn't mind
I appreciate that heads up. But also I do think other players would have had words. But next time I'll just have Dust start autistically whinnying and chasinf pony.
>>187706
>an anti-necro Cleric is a normal character; and evil Necromancer spy is less-normal.
Nah it's fair. I came to the game after you. Besides, Dust wasn't my only character idea and I probably would have gone with one of my other ideas had I known.
>Let's work together for a solution that serves both of us.
I do appreciate your willingness to work with me.
>Well, for starters, once Posey gets to lvl 6, which I believe she will be at the end of this adventure, her apprenticeship will be over and she will be set free, no longer having to serve her master. When this happens, she will potentially be open to taking you up on her deal.
>Posey is a slave to the Dread League: she does not actually have any loyalty towards them. She could potentially be willing to strike a deal to share secrets to usurp them in the long run.
Actually this is intriguing.
>>187709
I have a thought. How about if we do have a level up at the end of the mission, Dust can be absolutely livid about the whole necromancer thing, Posey can explain her position to him on the way back, and they can strike a deal that involves some level of Dust becoming her autism-handler and adventures with her to gain favor and more info that he can report back?

>>187718
>I have a thought. How about if we do have a level up at the end of the mission, Dust can be absolutely livid about the whole necromancer thing, Posey can explain her position to him on the way back, and they can strike a deal that involves some level of Dust becoming her autism-handler and adventures with her to gain favor and more info that he can report back?
I could try to work with that

>>187721
Huzzah! We can hash out actual details when we get there, but we have a plan now!

Be warned, I have several full-posts of effortposting for tonight

>>187826
Bring it on!

Reposting why I am mad at GM about the
>I'm skeptical
Comment. For one, I know how players can be when padding scores, and thats without being specific to this game, just saying.
Which is why when I did my skills I was very detailed, and made frequent messages to GM with updates and breakdowns.
I can still break down each of his skills, including his +12 device check.

But you didnt ask for a breakdown, you implied doubt and let that sit in the air. Fuck off, there is no doubt, and if there is, lets have it out now.

Go on, ask me. My sheet is in the old nuts discord under bats, 1st pin. Ill wait.

>>187826
Reeeeeeeee! I was gonna post backstory!!!

>>187851 →
>>187852 →
Dude, if you're going to be rode OOC, at least keep it in the designated thread.
Everyone is fucking walking on eggshells because posters act bipolar/narcissistic and take everything personally. I know some of you have emotional sensitivity issues, but you have to try because the rest of us are just here to have fun and dealing with ooc drama is not fun.
It's just a game. Chillax.
>>187886 →
>Im "special needs", meaning if I am unable to engage you when you're available I will seek to when you're not, which is part of lends toward me spamming in threads.
You're a grown ass man. You are a sapient humanoid, not an animal. Learn to behave yourself. We are not the short bus staff. We are not your teachers. We are not your therapist. It is not our responsibility to babysit you or accommodate your retarded antics, especially not at the expense of the group's enjoyment or the GM's peace of mind. Saying "im special needs" (as if we didn't already know) sounds incredibly inconsiderate of the effect that you have, like we're just supposed to tolerate it because you're touched in the head.
This game is full of "special needs" autists, but that doesn't excuse being an asshole.

PBP games are inherently slow. You will get no blood from the stone by spamming and trying to engage people when they are not available. It's a fool's errand.
>I may never get over flipping out like a child when I'm upset
Then maybe you should reconsider your path going forward before you further humiliate yourself in front of everyone by flipping out over nonsense. Learn to control yourself, or don't post at all.
>So perhaps as a favor that I can return by having extra degrees of confidence that enable me not sperging in any of the threads
Maybe try not sperging at all.
Think before you post. Compress your posts. Read your posts aloud if you must. Ask yourself if it is appropriate to post what you post before posting it. Ask yourself if it's one of the posts you would immediately regret and delete before posting it.
>>187884 →
This on all points.

>>187890
I went as long as I can stomach without responding to this, so here goes; maximum effort
>OOC rudeness
I will affect to limit my rudeness, but I also council that if rudeness is an objectionable offense then a better standard needs to be levied, as rudeness prevails without my contributions.
>You're a grown-ass man
It would be more accurate to describe me as a perpetual child in the body of a grown-ass man. Again, none of this is intended to excuse, simply to explain. You know how people are all on about puberty blockers causing irrevocable damage? A similar dynamic occurs when you subject a child to horrible shit in and around age 4, a very critical time for social development. So yes, I am grown-ass, but sorry but I AM a child, to some degree.
>that doesn't excuse being an asshole
Begging your pardon, but your posture suggests that there are circumstances where being an asshole is justified. I don't consider instances of righteous and agreeable indignance as being "an asshole", I would describe an asshole as someone being deliberately adversarial.
>maybe you should reconsider
I do, every time there's an instance. I do a very thorough inventory of where I fucked up, what I can attempt to do in the future, as well as a thorough explanation to any affected/injured parties; the ones who speak to me that is.
>think/compress/read aloud
I do already, and the situation will drastically improve now that I have a PC again. Again, none of this is intended to excuse, only to explain.

>>187978
>I don't consider instances of righteous and agreeable indignance as being "an asshole", I would describe an asshole as someone being deliberately adversarial.
I don't care how righteous you consider your 1:00 AM Wednesday morning "Go fuck yourself" posts to be. When I see them, and especially, when I know that this is what I have to look forward to every time you post, it makes me not want to play. And I don't. There is a reason I didn't continue anything between then and Saturday.

Stop it.

>>187993
Okay

>>187994
But I never asked you to lie

>>188028 →
>I have gone to extreme lengths to show GM how much I appreciate his efforts and time, to an increasing degree
Whatever positive things you say are clearly invalidated by telling him to fuck off every other week, or apparently also sending him obnoxious DMs in discord about dick sucking.
Just because you leave a compliment here and there doesn't neutralize the negative effect you have on people.
>literally of the devil
You are such a drama queen, it's unreal.

>>188031
I tell him to fuck off because I appreciate him. I tell him to die in fire because I want him to live vibrantly. You of all fucking people are NOT about to begrudge ME for some anonboard-esque shitposting.

Unless you want those other records admissible

>>188033
>I tell him to fuck off because I appreciate him.
He doesn't appreciate it when you do that, and neither do I.
>I tell him to die in fire because I want him to live vibrantly.
It's not necessary for you to do that.
>You of all fucking people are NOT about to begrudge ME for some anonboard-esque shitposting.
>tu quoque!
No, I will begrudge it, because it's affecting me.
I never claimed to be free of sin. I am telling you that the way that you respond to GM's graciously-communicated feelings is counterproductive, socially destructive, and annoying to everyone else.
>Unless you want those other records admissible
I really don't give a fuck about 'records'. Stop demoralizing the dungeon master.

>>188036
I didnt ask you. Thank you for your input tho. If GM wishes to opine at me, I will assume he knows how to reach me. I will also assume he wont reach put to to.me through (you)

Did you think that would work?

And yes, its quite evident where this ramshackle attempt is coming from

>>188037
>Did you think that would work?
No. I expect you to continue to persistently continue sucking the fun out of this game until everyone else gets pissed off and leaves.
But I had to try.
>>188039
>Look, mom! My post is all bold and red!
You are like a child.

Could you not reinforce GM Pone's lack of desire to look at this every day?

Let's talk walking red-flags.

First, you bave Bre Achtungsechsig. He's literally designed to be a problem. Ill mannered, irreverent, somehow unkilled by the dice though I've tempted them on several occasions, he gives 0 fucks and has no reservations telling you. Not an actual threat, unkless you do something stupid like try to force a charm spell on him the moment you meet him, then you're on "the list".

Adeline Adolphine De Fatima Korragar Preston al Thez. Her Fucking HAIR is her red flag. Even less fucks than Brie, more guns and explosives, and about to shoot you probably. We won't get into her, she's just my met excuse to get these characters out of this world if things go south.

But then there's the pony of the goddamn apocalypse. You know, the one who is flippantly dismissive of anything other characters or even GM are doing, acts like they should be catered to because they are there and have a precious fucking schedule that should be catered to.

Yes, Brie is sucking the fun out.

>flippantly dismissive of anything other characters or even GM are doing, acts like they should be catered to because they are there and have a precious fucking schedule that should be catered to
When did I do this? I always say people can go ahead play without me if I'm unresponsive (usually at 11+ PM).

>>188050
>>188050
Do you want timestamps? E_e

>>188051
Go ahead.

I have never wanted the group to confirm to my own schedule.

>>188052
And if I decline to redress, are you going to take it as a ball, or are you gonna pretend I didnt have anything to say?

>>188053
Balk*

>>188053
Those are not mutually exclusive.

>>188055
Okay, then lets level, like civilized ponies. This can be done in done in my thread(s), but here is fine.
>I never wanted the group to conform to my schedule
If true - and as one who doesnt communicate well - then you're honeslty okay. Its one thing to indicate availability, its another tondemand engagement.
Shall we go further? ^_~

>>188056
Its your thread, "anon"

>>188052
Having said, and not willing to pretend otherwise. Gm is the biggest contributor to the kerfuffle. Cry moar, Im just speaking the real.

In an ideal standpoint Gm would indicate who is on deck. And would censure those who arent

>3 consecutive posts
>>188056
>and as one who doesnt communicate well
You should get your eyes checked too, and a lithium prescription.
>demand engagement
When have I done that?
>Shall we go further?
Go ahead. Citations needed.
>>188058
>Gm is the biggest contributor to the kerfuffle.
It's the GM's game: he's free to run it how he pleases. If you don't like it, why don't you just find another one and be a social parasite elsewhere.
>Cry moar, Im just speaking the real.
It's pissing off everyone.
>In an ideal standpoint Gm would
Who are you to be making demands like that?

With respect, (mostly) all players have worn out any favorable feelings; Im sure the feeling is mutual.
Some wholeome cuz it still hurts me and should hur you too
I am not a good player. On board and subject to board scrutiny
Lets let them decide

>>188060
Go on then Posey, lets let the OTHER players decide? Maybe?

>>188060
>With respect, (mostly)
As if.
>all players have worn out any favorable feeling
Then leave.
>Im sure the feeling is mutual
It is.
>I am not a good player.
Agreed.
.
.
.
>invoking the late Beefilly in the middle of your shitty argument
You are truly shameless.
>>188061
Decide what?

>>188062
>as if
Duly noted
>then leave
Sentiment received
>agreed
>shameless
Yes. Is it time to talk about (you)?
>decide what
Whether two autists who cant fug and make up can wreck the 7 year game. Ffs, read the roo. And STFU

It's like he's an actual child

>>188065
I literally admitted to it two posts ago, youre not gon a shame me anymore faggot

>>188066
You'll admit it, but you won't change.

>>188067
What part of "malaffected psychological development" are (you) struggling with?

>>188068
The part where you seem to think the rest of us deserve to bear witness to it.

>>188070
Well, Im not in violation of site guidelines (one of which was written for me lol) and Im not in violation of GM guidelines (though hes appreciably cross with me atm). Its just you now.

>>188033
You remember when you were a huffy fluffy wufflekins because Posey kept posting pictures of cute bat ponies or whatever that was? Or that time you got extremely mad because Posey did the charm spell on your character? The rest of us didn't entirely understand why you were so upset, but that was besides the point. The point was that it upset you, and for the sake of harmony, we should drop it. Well, I feel the same way about you bitching at me both on board and in discord. To you, sure, it's just fun or justified or just normal or whatever. To me it's demoralizing as all fuck when you do it literally every time I try to play the game.

I don't message you with curses or angry messages. I try to be nice to you because I know that kindness is what you need. Well I need a little too. Or at least, just stop with angry messages multiple times per week.

>>188045
None of the problems are in character. I just don't want angry posts and angry messages directed at me. Well I'd really like it if you didn't feud with Posey in the thread, but I'll handle one thing at a time.

Posey and Cavaliere, who have also contributed towards demoralizing me, have already posted that they recognize the problem and will make changes. See >>188042 → and >>188025 →

>>188030 →
>>188028 →
You just... You don't get it, and I am genuinely baffled from your response. >>188022 → is a cry to please, stop the negativity because it's seriously making me want to quit. The proper response to it is to be nice and emotionally supportive. Silver's player gets it. Sven gets it. Cavaliere gets it. Even Posey gets it (even if his first response was like yours). But you... Your response is to persist on whatever niggling little issues you're on about? Just... what? For the love of God read the room. See >>188044 >>188027 →. They see how bizarre your response is. This behavior is baffling, unless you want me to quit?

>>188030 →
If you think there's some kind issue that needs to be addressed, for the love of God, common sense says to deal with it later. This is a bad time. And I'm pretty sure the claim is wrong, but I'm not dealing with that now.

>>188028 →
I don't remember a single specific bit of feedback on an in game situation since the start of the quest about something that happened in the quest, positive or negative. You will bitch out of character every time I reply or don't reply about how I am on line when I shouldn't be or should be on line when I'm not, or about how I did reply to a skill check or did not respond to a skill check, but I can't remember you saying very much at all about what is happening in the quest. I don't know if that's because you genuinely aren't interested or engaged or have anything to say, or if it's because when you do talk about it, it's drowned out by you yelling at me every. single. time. we play, whether you play or don't, whether i respond to your posts or not. And that's my point. The point is that there are too many angry posts directed at me and it's a very serious issue.

Within the past 7 days you told me to go fuck myself on the board, you messaged me angrily about not pinging you because I made a reply, and you messaged me telling me to "stop sucking Posey's cock." In 7 days. With one day of play.

I am asking you - no, begging you. Pleading with you - to stop messaging or posting on the board about how angry you are at me for every single tiny thing I do or do not do. It's demoralizing. It makes me want to quit.

I made a post for Brie a week ago. >>187833 →. In it, I detailed that Brie's skill check succeeded. A couple posts before that, I detailed specifics about the kind of explosive and its properties. The only response I've gotten has been a post telling me to go fuck myself. Reply to that post with something that isn't just being angry at me and I'll reply to that. In the meantime, you're showing that you have no intent to acknowledge my effort posts.

>>188072
I can give you all the specifics, including the lead-up and all the surrounding circumstances, but you're right that it doesnt matter anymore

But can it not be about prompting (you)/GM about "What your character wants to do next"? Because that creates a culture of incentivized irresponsibility; one which I willlfully played at (and won't).

Shut the FUCK up unless GM prompts you. Its for him, its for (you), and its for the other players.

What? We were presuming to speak for GM in this thread weren't we?

>>188072
>Well, I feel the same way about you bitching at me both on board and in discord. To you, sure, it's just fun or justified or just normal or whatever. To me it's demoralizing as all fuck when you do it literally every time I try to play the game.
This.

GM is showing emotional vulnerability and trying to work things out so we can all continue the game in good spirits. Would it kill you to be more polite and considerate when GM does that?
>None of the problems are in character.
>You will bitch out of character every time
Also this.
He won't even keep it in the ooc thread, ffs.
>unless you want me to quit?
You could also just throw him out if he's really getting to you. No reason you should quit instead of him.
Not pushing for it, just saying...
>>188073
>Shut the FUCK up unless GM prompts you. Its for him, its for (you), and its for the other players.
>speak for GM in this thread weren't we?
You are replying to the dungeon master, you absolute nincompoop.

>>188074
>nincompoop
learn to comprehend a transition of subject/audience, you nincompoop
To the rest:
Thank you for your constructive criticism and input. I trust you have nothing futher to add. Thanks and Bye bye ^_^

Changing the topic...

What do other players want to spend their reward money on?
For me, it depends on what level we are at when we end the adventure, but I'm considering some +1 Grotesque Fearsome barding. Maybe some necromancy scrolls if I don't level up enough to cast those spells myself. A Night caller, a Ring Of Desecration or a Rod Of Undead Mastery could be nifty. I also want to set aside some gold for a Founding Legacy Ritual, to further enhance the Tiara after I analyze it for its powers.
Oh, land is an option. I intend to buy up Curwhinny's farm, if I can convince Mr. Glass that the "endemic curse" is a bigger liability than the land is worth. Not sure how much that would cost, but once I have a secure underground facility I could do some fun things, like create monsters and store them underground.

>>188077
Kira doesn't really have any plans for the money, she's a new arrival from a society that used a barter system and she still doesn't fully understand how much Bits are actually worth; instead of arriving to Baltimare with currency already in her bags, she arrived with a collection of hoof-made jewelry of gold and jade, foreign coins, and other valuables given to her to trade for local currency, AKA Bits. She'll probably just hold onto it until she finds something to spend it on as right now it's the reputation from completing the quest that's more important to her.

Silver, meanwhile, has a number of things to spend it on. The house needs an expansion so he has enough bedrooms for all of the NPCs he's collected, he needs to fund the expedition he's gonna go on with Pear Faucet to look for the Tree of Life, if things go well with this quest and he ends up with the Kostroma and the commie ponies he needs to ensure all of them are taken care of, and finally if there's enough left over he wants to buy a workshop to turn into a smithy, both for passive income to support his household and also so all the characters can get some powerful hoof-made gear in addition to the loot we get on our adventures.

>>188075
Yes, I get it. You want Posey to talk to you. You hope that by acting up, you can put pressure on him to do it. I sort of understand it

But it isn't going to work. If anything, you're just pushing him away by acting belligerant constantly. He'd be more likely to like you if you acted normal.

And more importantly - this isn't the place for your personal drama. Your belligerence is hurting everyone, including you. Keep the drama between you two somewhere else.

>>188079
Are you sure you want to invite this discussion now? I think it would be better suited to all after a few days but
^Fuckitall, lets get messy
>Posey to talk to me
No, I want to at least know where I went wrong with him so I can at least avoid doing so in the future. Frens are very few for people 'like me' and I especially hate when I still love the ones who hate me. Hate me all you want, ;m used to it.
>Not the place for my personal drama
no it isn't. So leave me alone unless you wanna conribute to whoever the fuck it is, cuz I aready defaulted Brie to GM and am OUT

I've mentioned the idea before, but I still wonder what everyone thinks of it: mithril and adamantium - especially with regards to D&D - are the fantasy terms for titanium and tungsten, respectively.

>>188081
I always saw mythril as titanium, and adamantine as uranium, but idk
Tungsten, cobalt, and a bunch of other finer metals seem to land more in the masterwork material. But Adamanitite is supposed to be second to none for hardness. Idk where that compares to diamond, but as metals go Id say thats uranium

>>188083
Apparently, raw tungsten is brittle and hard to work with, but when purified it rates at a 7.5 on the Mohs hardness scale which is stronger than steel, while being malleable enough to be easy to work. Google's AI overview thing says it can rate anywhere from 7.5-9 on the scale, but I don't know if it's lying. Diamond is 10 on the scale, but apparently it's possible to get materials that are even higher than 10 through very specific circumstances, like from meteor impacts.

>>188081
Adamantine is not heavier than steel. It weighs the same as steel, but is as hard as diamond.

Also, I resent comparing mythic fictional metals to mundane real metals.

>>188085
I disagree. Forgotton Realms as one example establishes adamantine as being exceedingly dense by volume