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No.179654
Parallel containment thread for out of character discussions related to the roleplay thread.
2019 replies and 286 files omitted.
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No.181535
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On a personal note, I have an unresolved issue with 'Gamer' culture in D&D (surely its been noticed).
Theres a time and place for characters like Rosie - expounding the envelope- and this can well be one of them. But lets not pretend its really east to balance a bunch of reasonably squishies alingside a (cuz regen and DR) 4x more health (aline) undead powerhouse.

I was exceedingly proud of what I accomplished with the unadulterated rolls I made with Brie (>point buy, <low sperm [Xp]), and knowing that I got the budget build "in good faith" kinda sucks.
I dont claim to fully grasp the spellstichjeedd necromicon in undead half vampire form with dread the fuck ever rituals and unholy nipply and clit piercings, but *aside from some oversight wrt spellstitched SLAs* actually seems not as - if justified (read combat) - can work really well for everyone
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No.181537
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No.181538
All I want is to make a character that is effective for the story we're trying to tell, and nobody complains about. I want to make a character with interesting abilities that make sense for her background, and also not get nerfed mid-combat when I use them for the first or second time.

What can I do? How can I do that?
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No.181539
181543
>>181535
More to the point on gamer culture is the proliferation of guides and build templates. Yes, I get wanting to main-character 'be THE BEST (Or observably trending toward.

The problem (as GM has illustrated and I hope Im not beating a dead horse,... kinda maybe preaching to the choir by now) is that when an observable but undeniable minority all flock to the "extra most bestest" class build, and most OTHERS are playing more or less mundane/minimally maximized if at all,....

It undermines the quality of playing not kitted/maxxed characters, or having to be okay with doing less than others are doing in a balnced risk-assessment/reward sense, neither of which is happy making,
Anonymous
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No.181540
>>181537
Most of the hactardedness of 3.5e is ppl overlooking rules or ignoring them.

Most bonuses DONT stack, if of similar type. You can ONLY concentrate on one duration spell (unless specified in description: Hallow) at a time, and so on.

3.5e is actually really decent AND balanced *if pne learn all the rules and what they mean*
Rosey isnt balanced, but Im okay with that (fwiw) if she's gonna be the Golu who everyone rallies around to kill things. Im saying, do your evil when we've parted ways
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No.181541
Just saying, emoting kissing the tiara,... it was in character too, cant unsee
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No.181544
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>>181542
I dont mond spellstitched, its basically glorofoed daily use scrolls.

The problem with spellstitched is the perception that because it is a spell like ability, it doesnt require or bypasses concentration.

It very much does not.

It does bupass verbal, somatic, material, and focus components.
But for example, Rpsey CAN NOT have an u seen servant, tensers floating dosk, and part ac buffs (excliding Brie e_e) at the same time
Anonymous
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No.181545
>>181544
Re: Duration, subcategory: Concentration
Anonymous
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No.181546
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This gets back to gamer mentality.

Everything I have askef GM for in my character is based upon a personality type I wanted to play before I knew what the mechanics, benefits, consequences, or possible layouts were (within reason, not.my first rodeo).

Rosey SEEMS to be a cut and paste of (no offense, but short of Pun pun) among the most broken of builds.
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>>181546
I had a lengthy sales pitch, and knew why I SOULD be able to without breaking the indended balance ang guidelines of the game.
Rosey doesnt come across that way. I am willing to see her mainfest as that kind of character, and I apologize if I go overboard in wxpressi g skepticism/criticism
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>>181544
>But for example, Rpsey CAN NOT have an u seen servant, tensers floating dosk, and part ac buffs (excliding Brie e_e) at the same
None of those are concentration spells, btw.
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>>181548
>cast mage armor, shield, protection from arrows
Another example that shouldnt happen
>reee, you havent seen my final form!
Dude, Im trying to be okay with how unfathomably broken Rosie is,... youre not helping
>why do you care
[I]Its one of the most basic functions of the game. Duration spells require concentration. U wanna not concentrate? Use a scroll. You want a scroll that regenerates every day cuz some asshole decoded he wanted to for his game and then told someone else and they eventually decided to sell their broken ideas to a pu lisher who said "fuck it why not',....
Oppsed.
Concentration is a thing, and its not just a saving throw when taking damage.
Anonymous
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No.181551
>>181549
Yes they are. Read it
Anonymous
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No.181552
181567
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Oh no, I've spilled my spaghetti, oops!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vHzWLmdeNMdwpV1ZZm7_odK8Se-M19KiiB6iZdOX0mg/pub
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_QNvNjIMKGivuMWayMOsOaXd-w9nCsnvnfyxEb4dbno/pub#h.mp7gnwz1yhkj
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CXF9Q2XUoq0Lzh0H8Zzk8gCq4GMkzB-pYTRxIfQGXH8/pub
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cPmFbL75JMGQ4im7iH9ySCJYh7tGP3g8eo1xIW5R8KA/pub
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h0SlmLGUjL6TgOGxxe8ww7yJPiZhfx5864v_6jwlYeg/pub
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No.181553
181554
On a different topic, I've imagine if Silver was ever somehow corrupted by dark magic into being evil, his name would change from "Silver Sword" to "Sundered Sword", and the sword in his cutie mark would change to appear broken in half.
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No.181555
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>>181554
No, no, NO. Go. Read your pdfs, PHB. Look up under spells, Duration: read until the end of subset Concentration. Have fun, Rosey isnt nearly as powerful as you were convinced (still super powerful, ngl)
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181556
>>181554
A little bit, I suppose. It sounds like a cool idea to me.
Anonymous
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No.181557
181558
>>181555
I dont mean the specific spell, I mean the general breakdown of duration and concentration as a concept
Anonymous
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No.181558
181561
>>181557
Okay fine, I'll spoonfeed. Spells without specofic qualifiers in their description, that have a duration REQUIRE CONCENTRATION.

Even SPELL.LIKE ABILITIES
Anonymous
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>>181555
I'm looking at it right now. Timed durations are not the same as concentration duration spells. You are wrong.
I know this by heart, because I am in two other PBP games. Look things up before you talk out your ass.
>Rosey isnt nearly as powerful as you were convinced
It's not even relevant to that Discussion, because Rosey has never even tried tried to use duration spells at once: she had no buff spells, duration isn't an issue for her. The longest she maintained a spell was when she summoned her amoebic crawlers in the hydra fight.
Anonymous
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No.181560
>>181559
You know what, I guess they really did write it that way. Forgrt I said anything.
Anonymous
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No.181561
181562
>>181558
You're wrong. That's not how concentration works in 3.5e.
You're thinking of 5e, where every ongoing spell costs concentration.
You are wrong. You have fundamentally misunderstood how 3.5e spellcasting works.
3.5e doesn't have 5e's silly concentration restriction. 3.5e spellcasting works like THIS:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nqjz5R8LrU [Embed]
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No.181562
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>>181561
Ive never met anyone who actually played 3.5e in any contemporaneous sense who interpreted the rules that way. Maybe they were intended that way, maybe youre right. You disgust me, and this convo is over.
Anonymous
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No.181563
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Your intepretation of the rules disgusts me, let me qualify
Anonymous
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No.181564
>>181562
>Ive never met anyone who actually played 3.5e in any contemporaneous sense who interpreted the rules that way.
There's literally NPCs in modules who do this: a Cleric in Age Of Worms casts Bulls Strength and Bless before combat. Monsters with tactics: a Nightwalker casts invisibility and haste before combat.
Anonymous
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No.181565
>>181562
>Maybe they were intended that way, maybe youre right. You disgust me, and this convo is over.
How is playing the game as intended disgusting?

And Posey hasn't done any of this at all. She has no buff spells. She has touch attacks, fear-based debuffs, and a handful of summons.
Anonymous
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No.181566
>>181563
My interpretation is the intended reading. It is a very clear reading. It is clearly published in the SRD.
I have never encountered someone who said that unseen servant and floating disk are concentration and you can't have them at the same time.

Even in 5e, neither of those spells are concentration. You are talking out your ass.

Are you drunk?
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Anonymous
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No.181568
181571
Idk how this was even an argument.
I asked for ways that I could voluntarily change/nerf my own character sheet to be more in line with the GM's intentions and fit in with the party, and it sonehow turned into a BS argument about Concentration spells because Brie's player can't fucking read.

Why does shit like this happen every fucking week? This is not fun.
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181569
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
Anonymous
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No.181570
181571
>>181567
It's got 'em. Check the last link
Anonymous
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No.181571
181572
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>>181568
I know there's a temptation to reply to every single post directed at you but sometimes it's best to not take the bait. Brie's player is not a bad person to my knowledge but he is extremely autistic and autistic people will hyperfocus on minor details sometimes. Just acknowledge the post exists and move on.

I still don't know what Test is.

>>181570
Ooh!
Anonymous
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No.181572
181588
>>181571
It turned/s into an argument cuz I read the character sheet, and MOST of the bullshit minmax sites he derived it from. (Im still behind on a few of his bullshit bonus feats cuz reasons).
That he insist its 'perfectly fine' ("Im jus tryin to play a lil ol villain, uwu") is exactly the sort of harktardedness Im trying to indicate as making the game more difficult for everyone.
Lets be clear. With the ability to daily-cast several spells with (primarily) no consequence raises a character CR far beyond "what the designers decided it does".
The WHOLE PARTY would LIKELY LOSE if facing Rosey.
But yes, I took the bait again. I know
Anonymous
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No.181573
With Posey's interpretation of spell duration, spells like Force cage, Gate, and a variety of other very demanding spells "dont require concentration". Im not on about ritual casts, theres an argument to be made there. Im talking about involved spells with very lasting/exacting effects that apparently you can just "set it and forget it".
Thats just one issue, and one that very significantly affects party balance.
Maybe I should have more faith in GM, theres a case to be made there.
Anonymous
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No.181574
Oh, 'Telekinesis requires concentration'. Nevermind, I guess they thought of everything.
Anonymous
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No.181575
Control Undead, 7th lvl sorceror/wis spell allowing control of multiple HD of undead for a number of rounds determined by caster level. Not a concentration spell.

Detect animals or plants
Concentration spell
Anonymous
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No.181576
Shall I go into Time Stop? Or shall I stop, with an admission that theres a glaring insufficiency in the concentration rules as written - if Posey's interpretation is correct - or that there is room for reevaluation of stacked spell effects, as I am asserting.
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No.181577
In conclusion, GM had expressed an interest that this game be "more /mlp/ and less D&D, excluding neither" (paraphrased). But also that 3.5e was a convenient/familiar system with lots and lots of optional add on material for consideration and integration with/without modification. 3.5e broke either because of liberal interpretation of the rules, or liberal implementation of rules. And, some players like breaking the game by CL and balance; ive seen players run full 18s for all stats, triple-classed from level 1.
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No.181580
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No.181581
181582 181583
>>181580
Bro, can you stop?
I was trying to have a productive conversation with GM about how to alter my character sheet, and now he can't even see my posts about it if he clicks "last 50 posts".
Anonymous
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No.181582
>>181581
All you had to do was ask
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Anonymous
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No.181585
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>>181583
>you asked “why does it matter that Posey is OP?”
What I asked was what the problems I caused were, and how I could amend them. I asked how you expected combat to go in the game, and how my character sheet could reflect that.
I already offered to cut abilities and HP from her sheet.
>I was going to reply to your earlier post
Please do...
>“In a serious setting, Posey is an unserious character"
Tbh, I originally meant for Posey to be to this game what the Dread League is to EaW: out of place and archaic, but also fun. She behaves the way she does because the country she hails from is a strange place.
Posey is a D&D character in a d20 Modern game, and I did that by design thinking it would be fun and well recieved. I guess I was wrong...
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No.181588
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>>181572
>The WHOLE PARTY would LIKELY LOSE if facing Rosey.
Dust solos her, give me backup and the fight maybe lasts 3 turns. Maybe.
Anonymous
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No.181589
>>181588
Shush, we'll get into that later
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No.181592
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And all of this aside, I still have unanswered questions for what I can do to fix her.
Anonymous
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No.181593
d20 Past.pdf
Let me interrupt with the D20 Past rule book. Carry on.
GM Pony
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No.181595
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No.181597
>>181596
No comment, hust saying halfway through I heard it in Critical Drinker. Not a criticism.
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>>181599
>character development
Asshole bat here, this is what Ive been working on, fwiw. When I set out to revamp Brie I was all "this is how he is, isnt it funny?"
It wasnt funny apparently,.... and since then Ive been looking to trim off uneven/jagged edges. Unfortunately, the jagged edges that are more pressing seem to come from the player. Fpr Brie, it's not about ammending stats pr anything, it's about changing my idea of his personality so that hes NOT such an asshole, but IS still himself.
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>>181602
>sneak attacks
While I appreciate the consideration, theres no reason I would want Brie to sneak/regular attack Rosey. I dont communicate well. Seemingly all this started when I reacted poorly to Posey trying to charm Brie early on, and Ive had a chip on my shoulder. Ive thought of a half dpzen ways I could have handled it better and hopefully I will have a comparable resolve if my jimmies get rustled in the future.
I never wanted or want any actual actual pvp (though I do like the occasional RP scrap in character :3)
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No.181605
181606 181617 181619 181639
Okay but I don't think we're answering the biggest question about Posey.
Is banging her necrophilia?
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No.181609
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>>181608
>right spells
Dust's whole build is undead killing. Spells, feats, etc. He's very efficient with it. Zeeb with just Kira I think could take her down pretty effectively. He might need Silver instead? Idk.
But the real real question. Is she cold or is she using some funky magic to keep it warm inside?
Anonymous
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No.181610
181611 181619
The thing about Brie and the transitional intent behind this mission:
When I first came back, I was proposing a scenario to GM where Brie was facilitating the Changeling boys going on a serial killing spree on the aristocratic pedos in government/politics, that the other players could murder mystery through. I assume thats why he later declared that serial killing was a hard hard:3 no.
His response at the time was a paraphrased: "Uhm, how about this mission Im about to send them on...."
Brie's asshole personality is a function of his upbringing, where being an asshole and getting under skin was essential for survival; but it isnt anymore, and its becoming more of a liability than an amusement/strategy. I'm actively seeding GM with ideas that he may be interested in introducing that may circumstantially assist, but as I learn/see the story develop I am increasingly impressed that I should just shut up and let it happen.
Anonymous
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No.181611
181612 181617 181619 181639
>>181609
When she seduced August Wreath she had to take a hot shower to raise her body temperature, so she is naturally cold to the touch.

>>181610
Serial killing probably would have been approved if it was directed at random ponies and lowlifes. When it starts affecting the whole region's government is when the chance for derailment is high. Don't get me wrong, I would love some Dishonored gameplay in here, but I can see why he decided against it.
Anonymous
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No.181612
181613 181619
>>181611
Yeah, but if he cant about blood, obvious no go
Anonymous
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No.181613
181615 181619
>>181612
His limit is explicitly exsanguination. The scene at the sealers' camp has a shack with blood covering the floor. Regular portrayals of blood are fine, so are dead bodies. Vampire stuff is just a no-go.
Anonymous
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No.181615
>>181613
Well, I have several plans - beyond even the serial killing changelings idea - that involve Dexter-like scenes, but I'm gonna assume thats not gonna fly
And when I say "plans", what I mean is "story elements, themes, and probable events based on temperment and likelyhood of circumstance". The only LEGIT plan is Brie getting his CM
Anonymous
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No.181617
>>181605
It makes you a necrophile, but it's only necrophilia as a condition if you know and are into it. Having fapped to skelenore with a fleshlight,... (I dont have the img anymore, though its somewhere in mixed nuts)
>>181611
So its warm when she likes you (or wants something)
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Anonymous
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No.181620
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>>181618
>>u dropped the ball
>no u
Not to glaze, but this. Theres more at play, and its not as simple as it seems. Suffice it to say, depending on how a character is presented to a GM, theres lots of room for NOT-bad-faith lack of oversight.
>no unwanton murder esp of the less fortunate
My man

For the audience, the Kerr and Wesley serial-killing would be specific to pedophile politicians in league with Comte (y'all remember, or will get the tl;dr). The purpose was to begin the process of replacing significant politicians with Changelings, but eventually something would go awry and there would be an unintended/reported crime scene
Anonymous
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No.181623
The potential for a/the party would be to weed through one or more "replaced changeling" politicians, leading inexorably back to Brie and the Boys. Ostensibly, Brie would sacrifice his freedom (through incarceration) to enable the lings to escape. Obvs this wont happen with Bries intended change of perspective, but its what I was gonna work toward when I FIRST came back
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>>181619
We should return to the Comte/Pier questline sometime
Anonymous
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No.181633
181634 181639 181641
>>181629
If Posey faces off against the whole party, final fantasy style, yes its debatable.

If Posey puts on a crown that grants mind-control to plebians, bodied instantly.
Anonymous
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No.181634
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>>181633
Yeah, its not just mind control.
Its mind control, and spells, and spell levels, and other things specific to your characters things theyre good at.

Posey is good at alot of things.

Alot alot of things.

Now you have an ish perspective of why no no no to the no no
Anonymous
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No.181636
>>181629
Cavaliere doesn't have magic weapons (yet), neither does Brie. I don't know if any of Silver's weapons are magic, and I don't think Kira's bow is. Excluding Dust and Tenebrous, the party would probably win but it would be close if you didn't pull any punches.

It's terrific that we're close to an agreement.

>>181632
yes
Anonymous
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No.181638
Ill even go a step further to suggest to Posey (the player) that Posey's interest in it might be a cursed compulsion
One that Rosey as a necrologist would detect and be mindful of
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>>181639
>the griffon didnt mind control us
There
A rube gained mind control
And infernal(?) Powers
He and his associates seem PANICKED at the idea that anyone would put on the crown

As a necrologist, by background (and Im building up cuz I know part of GM wants to go ha )

Posey simply wouldnt. She wouldn't.
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No.181642
Posey, as a "professional" would be like "this is extrme shit, I know things they dont know, this is bad on many levels"
Anonymous
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No.181643
>>181641
>by the time crown
No, my emphasis point. No
Anonymous
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>>181641
GM, by your response, I realize that I misfired these past two posts. I really shouldn't be going this while I'm cooking.
Anonymous
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I changed Vir's ability scores as I'm making a proper character sheet for her. Here's the one that I have decided upon right now.

I think this is the final one.
Anonymous
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No.181646
>>181644
It do be. But yeah, you also gotta admit when you fuck up. Good pone
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>>181645
What class did you decide on?
Anonymous
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>>181647
Right now, I'm thinking monk 5 levels and the last one in barbarian. I kinda like the rage aspect. I have decided exactly, how yet tho.

But I'm pretty certain about those scores. Strength is her main strength. ^^ And, con and dex rounds her out well. Wis because she I don't like her to be appalling so neutral cha makes sense. Int could be an eight instead just for the sake of roleplay. But I'm still thinking about this and this: https://gameoutonline.com/difference-between-wisdom-and-intelligence-dnd/
I just find it hard not to say things while roleplaying that are a bit too smart for my character. I guess, I could have her stumble on her words but have great insight, and I might do that. So might drop her int from 9 to 8. We'll see.
Anonymous
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No.181649
>>181648
>I have decided exactly, how yet tho.
*haven't*
Anonymous
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No.181650
181651
>>181648
Dexterity based, or strength based barbarian?
Anonymous
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No.181651
181655
>>181648
>Wis because she I don't like her to be appalling so neutral cha makes sense.
Sorry, I can't into writing it seems.

Wis cause I like the idea that she's a bit dumb but has great insight because she keeps her focus on what's important in life.

Maybe I'll minmax somewhat so her wis modifier gets to +2 by lowering her int to eight and something to 12. We'll see.

>>181650
I think strength based but she's more monk than barbarian.
Anonymous
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No.181652
>>181648
Consider Rage Monk
https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/baseCore/monk.html#raging-monk

But even moreso, you might be more satisfied using the Sublime Way
Anonymous
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No.181653
181656
>>181648
For alignment, I'm thinking chaotic good if that matters.
GM Pony
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No.181655
181712
>>181648
>>181651
>>181645
Okay, sounds good

You mean move one score to 14?
Anonymous
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No.181656
181712
>>181653
There's a Chaos Monk too:
https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/baseCore/monk.html#chaos-monk
Which could technically work with Rage Monk, replacing the equivalent features.
Could also go City Brawler Barbarian
https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/baseCore/barbarian.html#city-brawler
Barbarian recommended for urban adventures. It gives unarmed combat in exchange for armor and martial weapons.
It's a good entry into Fist Of The Forest
Anonymous
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No.181658
181659 181660 181661
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Anonymous
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No.181659
>>181658
>img
Danke dottore
Anonymous
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No.181660
181663
>>181658
... You didn't take your full WBL?
3.5e characters need equipment to be functional, especially martials.
>you're not going to roll for stats? That's part of the fun.
It's fun if you roll high.
Anonymous
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No.181661
>>181658
>happy Thanksgiving everypony
So this, plz bake.
Anonymous
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No.181662
Here's to you Atlas.jpg
[1d6 = 4][1d6 = 4][1d6 = 4][1d6 = 3]
[1d6 = 6][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 2][1d6 = 4]
[1d6 = 6][1d6 = 2][1d6 = 1][1d6 = 1]
[1d6 = 2][1d6 = 2][1d6 = 3][1d6 = 6]
[1d6 = 1][1d6 = 5][1d6 = 1][1d6 = 3]
[1d6 = 4][1d6 = 6][1d6 = 2][1d6 = 3]
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181663
181666 181670
>>181660
Neither Silver nor Kira started with 5k to spend on equipment. I forget how much Silver started with exactly but it was definitely less than 5,000 Bits, all he had to start with in terms of equipment was a set of banded mail and a greatsword, both non-masterwork, and he didn't have a whole lot of money leftover to use on a room at the tavern. To be fair, this was back when I knew literally nothing about D&D, and I still don't know a whole lot since my entire knowledge base comes from the SRD and it's missing a lot of basic knowledge like what levels characters usually get feats at. Kira didn't have any Bits at all and instead came to Baltimare with a bunch of gold and jewelry to sell to get Bits, but she did start at least with masterwork studded leather armor, a masterwork spear, and a masterwork recurve bow with a +3 strength adjustment.
Anonymous
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No.181664
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1732830611.mp4 (3.3 MB, Resolution:640x706 Length:00:00:19, mala.mp4) [play once] [loop]
mala.mp4

The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181665
>>181664
qt
Anonymous
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No.181666
>>181663
Maybe something I know of, but possibly something (somehow) overlooked
Anonymous
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No.181667
181668
>>181664
Posey when Mala
Anonymous
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No.181668
181669
Ngl >>181667
Always pets for doggo
Anonymous
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No.181669
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>>181668
GM Pony
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No.181670
181674 181675
NAT-200212-HYENA7811-1581685038855_17043c65f0c_large.jpg
>>181664
D'awwww

>>181663
Kira still got 2400 bits plus a pocket watch after spending around 1000 to buy a deer
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181674
>>181670
Hmm, that's true, she did get a deer out of it
Anonymous
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No.181675
>>181670
>1000
I think that's enough to buy a young hart
Anonymous
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No.181714
What did you have to drink? I had pinot noir with dinner and Angry Orchard apple cider afterwards.
Anonymous
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No.181716
181718
>>181712
You're using the wrong point calculator.
Just roll or use an array.
Anonymous
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No.181718
181719
>>181716
Ah, I see. Is there better point buy calculator out there that I could use? Do I have to use these other alternatives? Well, if I have to, I will. ^^
Anonymous
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No.181719
181762
>>181718
Nobody here has used point buy, so idk.
You should be using a third edition calculator if anything though.
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181721
I'd recommend rolling, myself. You can end up getting some pretty good rolls.
Anonymous
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No.181723
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Literally me
Anonymous
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No.181725
>>181629
>Look at other races with high natural armor
Which races are you referring to?
Anonymous
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No.181742
181748 181756
Heres my problem with the Dastana.
Mages in DnD can be compared to people who draw perfect circles in a single stroke.
Go ahead, try it for yourself.
Now imagine that you spend so much time in study and practice - decades even - learning to draw a perfect circle with a single stroke.
Now do that, with weights strapped to your arms.
Anonymous
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No.181748
>>181742
To clarify, Im not saying its undoable, but thats expressly what the spell failure percent represents
Anonymous
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No.181756
>>181742
You need to be proficient in light armor to wear dastana, let alone cast in them.
And they have arcane spell failure chance chance, just like any other armor.
Also Mages wears bracers all of the time: they're called bracers of armor.
GM Posey
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No.181757
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Anonymous
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No.181758
181759
>>181757
I will get that in a bit.
GM Pony
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No.181759
181761
Let me put it another way that hopefully is less passive aggressive:

Could you explain your proposed character sheet in such a way that all of the players - who are not steeped into the esoterics of 3.5 - could understand it, and such that I could not misunderstand it?

>>181758
Unless this is you. Then good
Rosey "Posey" Ring
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No.181761
>>181759
>Could you explain your proposed character sheet in such a way that all of the players - who are not steeped into the esoterics of 3.5 - could understand it, and such that I could not misunderstand it?
I can try.
I'll also lay it out in a way that isn't a convoluted mess on a myth weavers sheet.
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No.181766
>>181765
Oh yeah, she also has Kelgore's Grave Mist, from her Advanced Learning class feature. Forgot to mention that under spells.
Anonymous
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No.181767
181768
Sorry to nterrupt, but the racial adjustments I made for bats was +2 dex, -1 Con (hollow bones), +2 listen checks. If that is not correct, please advise.
Anonymous
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No.181768
181769 181777 181937
>>181767
>>181764
I didn't know that this setting had racial bonuses. What's the one for earth ponies?

I honestly, I'm pretty satisfied with my stats. Though, I am bit greedy for more str bonuses. ^^
Anonymous
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No.181769
181771 181772
>>181768
I think earth ponies are "humans", no point adjustment, just an extra feat?
Anonymous
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No.181771
181776
>>181769
Hehe, I thought that that might be the case as well. Well, that works fine for me. ^^
Anonymous
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No.181772
>>181769
They might be more of a half-orc proxy.
Bats also grt to fly, I think thats was why we went with that array
Anonymous
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No.181776
181782
>>181771
The thing about Earth ponies is they don't always have to be Big Mac sized, so its conceivable that the human template would be agreeable
GM Pony
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No.181777
181782 181786
>>181768
Earth Ponies get +2 Strength and +2 Constitution.

There may have been another benefit, but I cannot recall.
Anonymous
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GM Pony
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No.181780
181781
>>181779
With these changes, what are Posey’s

Final ability scores?

Total Attack Bonus (base plus relevant modifiers)?

AC as applied?
Anonymous
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No.181781
181784
>>181780
Ability scores
>17 Str, 16 Dex, N/A Con, 16 Int, 12 Wis, 22 Cha
>Total Attack Bonus (base plus relevant modifiers)
+5 (2 BAB, +3 ability) in both melee and range
+7 with a +2 weapon and no barding; +5 with a +2 weapon and no barding
>AC as applied
20, when wearing full armor
Anonymous
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No.181782
>>181777
Okay, nice. Do you accept these scores of mine: >>181762 ?
>>181776
>The thing about Earth ponies is they don't always have to be Big Mac sized, so its conceivable that the human template would be agreeable
Yeah, that does make sense to me. That's why in a homebrew idea I had, I created this other pony race, called trojan horses that took on the more strength based archetype.
Anonymous
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No.181784
181785 181792
>>181781
*+6 with a +2 weapon and grotesque barding

Tbh, I should probably ask for approval for this:
>Grotesque Barding: Crafted with horns, scales, and other body parts from devils and demons, grotesque barding is horrible to behold. An animal wearing grotesque barding takes a -1 penalty on attack rolls but automatically attempts to demoralize any creature it attacks, gaining a +2 circumstance bonus on the Intimidate check. This demoralizing check is made as a part of the animal's attack and requires no conscious choice by the animal, nor an additional standard action. Grotesque barding costs 50 gp more than ordinary harding of the same type and weighs an additional 10 pounds.
Posey wearing armor made of bones served a functional role, not just fashion. I was mentioning it since day 1, but idk if that was understood to be mechanical.
This is a feature made for animals and mounts, but I have used it for centaurs and other quadrupedal characters before.
Anonymous
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No.181785
9240BD5C17F632B96E879439A1A295E8-50446.jpg
>>181784
>literal undead
>decked out in grotesque skeletal/armor
>trying to pass off as... not
>in front of a literal undead hunter and a paladin
Anonymous
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No.181786
181787 181788 181792 181937
>>181777
Wait, was I supposed to get something for being a zeeb?
Anonymous
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No.181787
181788 181790 181792
>>181786
Child support obligation?
Anonymous
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No.181788
181790
>>181786
>>181787
I was just about to write bantz myself. ^^
Anonymous
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No.181790
181791 181792 181872
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>>181787
>>181788
Wha! How rude! The international council of zeeb relations will be hearing about this.
Anonymous
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No.181791
>>181790
Srsly, prolly str and dex for the athleticism, but idk
GM Pony
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Anonymous
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No.181793
>>181792
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>not paying
Imma scrunch on you
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No.181800
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>>181792
I think the dastana is fine, as long as it provides a spell check failure chance. Posey is kisted as being unable to fail on a spellcast, not sure what thats about
Anonymous
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No.181801
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Anonymous
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No.181802
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>>181801
Forgot pic
Anonymous
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No.181803
181804
>>181792
>You really think that 22 charisma for a character at level 6 is appropriate and balanced?
>>181764
>Dex: Posey's unmodified Dex score is 16 (+3), but with Undead Mastery it is 20 (+5).
And:
>Half-Vampire Template (Libris Mortis): +2 Cha, +2 Str, +2 Dex
>She also has a +2 Str Bonus from a symptom of Corruption (HH): Bones Thicken.
>She also has a +4 Enhancement Bonus to Str and Dex from Undead Mastery
It seems like she has at least three scores >=20 if I'm understanding this correctly.

Is your character stronger than mine by the way, whose whole identity is about her massive strength while yours is a caster?
Anonymous
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No.181804
181806
>>181803
We, I'm removing the Str bonus anyway.
Anonymous
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No.181805
>>181801
I suppose if its an express feature of the class. The "simple gestures specific to "dread necromancy" was what I was having trouble with.
Anonymous
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No.181806
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Anonymous
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No.181807
>>181806
>so I try to refrain from giving my opinions.
Lmao, well I failed at that. ^^
Anonymous
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No.181821
>>181806
I dont mind Rosey being OP one bit; I did mind the condescention. Ya see the bibliography on that shit? My bibliography has 2 listings: the PHB, and a single homebrew feat that allows you to basically do flurry of blows in light armor, but requires dagger focus as a prereq, so its kinda balanced. But anyway, Im not against the stacking, I just dont wanna die when the boss whos a challenge hits the party with Final Flash or some shit.
Anonymous
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No.181822
181823
And, the ask on the Dagger mastery included a description about how alongsize improved grappling, he used neighponese (or whatever it is) jiu jitsu and the dagger mastery to grapple and stabby stab his opponents after removing their dex bonus (so sneak attacks). It made sense with what I wanted to do with the character and fit his story background (what I had established, and its only reinforced 3x by inclusion ofnLacey)
Anonymous
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No.181823
181844
>>181822
>Dagger mastery
Is this homebrew? The thing you describe really shouldn't cost a feat. There's even variant weapon proficiencies got Monk ACFs, some of which let you flurry with a dagger:
https://srd.dndtools.org/srd/classes/baseCore/monk.html#weapon-proficiencies
Fill that slot with Darkstalker or Craven instead.
Anonymous
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No.181832
As part of my build change, I'm going to reshuffle Posey's feats. I'm going to dump Corrupt Arcana for Item Familiar.
Anonymous
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No.181844
181850
>>181823
Advanced, yes it's homebrew
https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Advanced_Dagger_Mastery_(3.5e_Feat)
Anonymous
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No.181850
181855
>>181844
Oh, this is actually a pretty strong feat.
Anonymous
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No.181855
181860
>>181850
Yes, but cuz dagger focus its technically a double feat, and it only really buffs something he can otherwise already do cuz the monk dip, excepting the armor. Which its self not great when you consider what a wise monk could do, but hes not wise,....
Anonymous
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No.181857
181860
As a monk, it would make more sense to use weapon focus: unarmed/monk weapons, but cuz his rolls werent greatest I had to try and fit him how I could
Anonymous
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No.181860
181861 181864
>>181855
I think I'd still prefer to spend my feats on Craven or sublime way resources, but you do you.
>>181857
This is why I like Swordsage: just one level gives you +1 in all weapons of your focused discipline. Good for hitting prerequisites.
Anonymous
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No.181861
>>181860
Pardon, the +1 comes from the weapon focus feat
Anonymous
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No.181864
181867
>>181860
Understandable. But given his humble street background, he would have limited exposure to super cool feats and abilities, and the ones he does have are based off having impressed members of an ancient traditional ninja-bat dynasty/house, traceable back however many number of years.
Anonymous
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No.181867
181869
>>181864
>given his humble street background, he would have limited exposure to super cool feats and abilities
Ngl, I really dislike this approach to character creation. I've seen it before.
>I am humble so I wouldn't have access to nice things
You are a hero. You can do cool stuff if you want to.
Anonymous
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No.181869
>>181867
Bleh. I appreciate the merit to your position/structure, but i am trying to appeal to an archetype as much as I'm trying to make his stats and abilities viable, and limitations are a part of that. For example. The idea is that he has vested monies/interests all over, and is famously profitable. But at a given moment, he only has (literally right now 200 notes (not sure bits or w/ever). He is assumed to reinvest to a degree that hes kinda fancy-broke, butbif his assets were liquid he could retire the whole party.
And part of that amassing of wealth/power/influence is to leverage a specific interest increasingly emerging as part of his backstory and present story. Yes, it could be done other ways, but this current way makes sense especially with the specifics
Anonymous
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No.181872
181889
>>181790
TZD
Anonymous
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No.181884
181889
Btw Dust's player.

Im srsly gonna try and limerick your rhymes
Anonymous
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No.181889
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>>181884
This should be entertaining
>>181872
Says the mare trying to get some hot zigger action not 5 minutes ago
Anonymous
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No.181903
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>>181889
You are mistaken
Anonymous
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No.181940
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>>181889
>>181903
Very Mistaken
Anonymous
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>>181806
If I were assaulting Rosey - assuming no.meta knowledge - Brie would start with grapples to eliminate all but light weapons. Then attempt a stabby stab. Strategy to follow based on result, ostensibly determining crits/sneaks dont work and prolly busting a smoke grenade
Anonymous
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No.181955
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>>181951
>Ghoul Touch
Anonymous
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No.181957
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>>181955
I didnt say it would work, just thats whatbhis strategy would be from his current practices and understanding
Anonymous
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>>181957
Remember, Im the one saying Rosie bodies everyone (less so with recent developments, but still a force tonreckon with)
Anonymous
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No.181960
181964
>>181959
If you can kill a vampire spawn, you can kill three Posies.
Anonymous
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No.181964
181969
>>181960
Okay, to rephrase, I said Rosey with the CROWN bodies everyone
Rosey "Posey" Ring
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No.181969
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>>181964
We don't even know what the crown does. The most dangerous thing it did was summon a yeth hound.
Anonymous
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No.181970
181974 181977 182030
Fuck, I want Posey lewds now. Damn you sexy unicorn!
>>181937
They gotta get something though, right?
>>181940
>>181903
Both of you are the same color on my end, please allow me to be retarded.
Anonymous
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No.181974
181975 181979
>>181970
Lewd art or lewd scenes?
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181975
>>181974
Why not both?
Posey
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No.181977
181979
>>181970
Who is this?
Anonymous
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No.181978
>>181969
I know enough to know whybit was a DC nat 20.
Zoob
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No.181979
181986
>>181977
Zoober
>>181974
I was thinking art
Anonymous
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No.181986
181996 182008 182011
>>181979
I'm too broke for comms
zoob
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No.181996
182008
>>181986
Same, is sadge
Anonymous
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No.182008
182011
>>181996
>>181986
I still owe an artist $50 ._.
Anonymous
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No.182011
182013 182017
>>181986
>>182008
>>181986
Hey, I have money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ViQoMdKx4o [Embed]

I've never done commissions before though. I'm shy...
Anonymous
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No.182013
>>182011
I recommend contemporary poni artists. My drawfags are furries.
Anonymous
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No.182017
182018
>>182011
Super real talk:

Pick ur favorites. U said loadsaemonay, pick your favorites. Thell walks you through. But A. Be specific but B. Know that specificity costs u loney

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