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Im gonna revert to previous depictions of malice, willlful disregard, and attempted misrepresentation, in the forgoing disregard of this faggot and whatever theyre likely to say i. The foregoing timeframe
>>182365
You imply that posey is the one pushing for GM to resolve the situation. Cute.
I have tried to avoid interaction witb Posey. The inverse is not true.
You imply that posey is the one pushing for GM to resolve the situation. Cute.
I have tried to avoid interaction witb Posey. The inverse is not true.
>>182372
I don't know what you're upset about. Is it the suggestions of rape that made you uncooperative? The described metallic object looks to be irrelevant and it should not take much time to find out what it is before moving on. There is nothing to gain by being cryptic to all the other players. Is there a tacit deal the other players don't know about where Posey and yourself have to avoid interaction?
I don't know what you're upset about. Is it the suggestions of rape that made you uncooperative? The described metallic object looks to be irrelevant and it should not take much time to find out what it is before moving on. There is nothing to gain by being cryptic to all the other players. Is there a tacit deal the other players don't know about where Posey and yourself have to avoid interaction?
>>182373
Let's get specific. Are you asking if I refused to go along with PF's (Posey's faggot) demands of me as a player/character? Yes, thats correct. If he, you, or anyone makes demands, three guesses what the response will be. If its important, maybe dont be a dick about it.
Theres this odd and prevailing attitude that other characters are stepping stones, or a means to another particular character's desired end. How about wwel all play our own characters?
Let's get specific. Are you asking if I refused to go along with PF's (Posey's faggot) demands of me as a player/character? Yes, thats correct. If he, you, or anyone makes demands, three guesses what the response will be. If its important, maybe dont be a dick about it.
Theres this odd and prevailing attitude that other characters are stepping stones, or a means to another particular character's desired end. How about wwel all play our own characters?
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Can you please not shit up my thread with cryptic arguing? It's unpleasant for the rest of us. We don't want to wade through shit to get to the substantial replies. It makes it harder to backread. And it kills the thread more quickly.
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When you have a problem with another player, can you just write out, in plain English, what the issue is? There are six other people here besides you and Posey.
None of the rest of us want to wade through 30 replies trying to guess what the issue is. And when you bury your own replies with more replies, if by some accident you do say what the issue is, that answer gets buried. Either say what the problem is or shut the fuck up and don't shit up my threads. If you're afraid that you can't articulate the issue, then please try, and we'll attempt to interpret it. And if you can't or won't do that, then please just don't post.
We are autistic and not paying attention to your tit for tats with Posey. We don't see subtext, we don't get context. Hell, even if you say it out loud and then bury that reply with 30 others we'll assume it's because that reply wasn't very important. If you don't want to say it then don't write 30 replies of nothing.
Don't write 30 one sentence replies. It's spam. It shits up the thread and disrupts everything. There are six or more of the rest of us besides you two who use these threads.
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Can you keep it out of my game? This is disruptive to the rest of us. There are six of us here besides the two of you. We don't want our experiences ruined.
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I think you had figured out I was asleep by that point.
If you have something to say out of character, say it out of character, rather than this weird confusion between the two.
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While Brie's player won't tell us what the issue is, I think there's a very fair bet that a big part of the reason is you telling him what he should do with his own character - and then still insisting on it 20 posts later. It's clearly not appreciated. Don't do it.
Also, making a one sentence reply to tell us how bored you are and imply that you want to sexually assault another player character who is a thousand miles away in game is not appreciated by me.
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None of the other of us six people know what the deal you made is. Evidently neither does Posey. Can you just say what the issue is not force the other six people to sift through a half dozen posts on some kind of "deal" that is not explained and is secret? It's basically spam to talk about it here.
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Your character can't even sleep. How could she hope to dream?
>>182379
You could have said this from the beginning and saved the rest of us needing to click "last 50 posts" to see anything of meaning
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Can you please not shit up my thread with cryptic arguing? It's unpleasant for the rest of us. We don't want to wade through shit to get to the substantial replies. It makes it harder to backread. And it kills the thread more quickly.
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When you have a problem with another player, can you just write out, in plain English, what the issue is? There are six other people here besides you and Posey.
None of the rest of us want to wade through 30 replies trying to guess what the issue is. And when you bury your own replies with more replies, if by some accident you do say what the issue is, that answer gets buried. Either say what the problem is or shut the fuck up and don't shit up my threads. If you're afraid that you can't articulate the issue, then please try, and we'll attempt to interpret it. And if you can't or won't do that, then please just don't post.
We are autistic and not paying attention to your tit for tats with Posey. We don't see subtext, we don't get context. Hell, even if you say it out loud and then bury that reply with 30 others we'll assume it's because that reply wasn't very important. If you don't want to say it then don't write 30 replies of nothing.
Don't write 30 one sentence replies. It's spam. It shits up the thread and disrupts everything. There are six or more of the rest of us besides you two who use these threads.
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Can you keep it out of my game? This is disruptive to the rest of us. There are six of us here besides the two of you. We don't want our experiences ruined.
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I think you had figured out I was asleep by that point.
If you have something to say out of character, say it out of character, rather than this weird confusion between the two.
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While Brie's player won't tell us what the issue is, I think there's a very fair bet that a big part of the reason is you telling him what he should do with his own character - and then still insisting on it 20 posts later. It's clearly not appreciated. Don't do it.
Also, making a one sentence reply to tell us how bored you are and imply that you want to sexually assault another player character who is a thousand miles away in game is not appreciated by me.
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None of the other of us six people know what the deal you made is. Evidently neither does Posey. Can you just say what the issue is not force the other six people to sift through a half dozen posts on some kind of "deal" that is not explained and is secret? It's basically spam to talk about it here.
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Your character can't even sleep. How could she hope to dream?
>>182379
You could have said this from the beginning and saved the rest of us needing to click "last 50 posts" to see anything of meaning
Having said, I think I know what the real issue is, if there IS a 'real' issue. I just got finished detailing it to Stix, ask him. I dunno what exactly to do if Im right, and I certainly dont know what if I'm wrong, but its something to go off of at least.
>>182384
Oh cause that's what we need, involving more people. Great, yippee, that will surely help and not just expedite issues further. Who even is that? It doesn't seem to be one of the other players.
>>182382
Can you just let me know when we're actually playing so I don't have to keep tabs on the thread? I wanted to play a zeeb, not be a pawn in someone's surprise group therapy intervention.
Oh cause that's what we need, involving more people. Great, yippee, that will surely help and not just expedite issues further. Who even is that? It doesn't seem to be one of the other players.
>>182382
Can you just let me know when we're actually playing so I don't have to keep tabs on the thread? I wanted to play a zeeb, not be a pawn in someone's surprise group therapy intervention.
>>182372
>resolve the situation
What situation?
>I have tried to avoid interaction witb Posey
No you didn't. You made 30+ posts of evasive, cryptic bullshit, when you could have just said nothing.
>>182373
>The described metallic object looks to be irrelevant and it should not take much time to find out what it is before moving on. There is nothing to gain by being cryptic to all the other players
This.
>Is there a tacit deal the other players don't know about
Even if there were, I wouldn't care.
>>182374
>Sweet, summer child
>Cute
Why are you always patronizing other players? It's not as cool as you think it is.
>>182376
There is nothing to iron out.
Just play the game.
>>182378
What does this even mean?
>>182379
>demands
What demands?
Is all of this about me suggesting that you roll a skill check? I literally don't care. The rest of us could roll. It doesn't matter. I was just trying to move the story along and settle the questions about your weird dildo so we could get to the light house.
>Theres this odd and prevailing attitude that other characters are stepping stones, or a means to another particular character's desired end.
Idk how you came to this conclusion.
I suggested that you roll a skill check to appraise the item that you had already claimed as yours. The rest of us had already rolled checks to identify it, and I didn't want to linger on it. You don't have to roll if you don't want to, and you could have just said that you didn't want to instead of confusing people with your weird cryptic jargon.
>>182382
>Can you please not shit up my thread with cryptic arguing? It's unpleasant for the rest of us. We don't want to wade through shit to get to the substantial replies. It makes it harder to backread. And it kills the thread more quickly.
This.
I'm sorry for participating in the spam. It's a waste of everyone's time.
>When you have a problem with another player, can you just write out, in plain English, what the issue is?
>if you can't or won't do that, then please just don't post.
This please.
>While Brie's player won't tell us what the issue is, I think there's a very fair bet that a big part of the reason is you telling him what he should do with his own character - and then still insisting on it 20 posts later. It's clearly not appreciated. Don't do it.
Alright. I just got confused by the way he replied.
>is not appreciated by me
Noted.
>None of the other of us six people know what the deal you made is. Evidently neither does Posey. Can you just say what the issue is not force the other six people to sift through a half dozen posts on some kind of "deal" that is not explained and is secret? It's basically spam to talk about it here.
I didn't even know there was a deal.
When I said "what's your deal" I meant to ask what his issue was, because he was doing the "stonewalling discussion with cryptic nonsense" thing again.
>Your character can't even sleep. How could she hope to dream?
Well, vampires sleep in coffins, don't they? There's also the whole dream haunting thing they do.
It was a half-ironic shitpost to see how okay you were with the idea of adventuring in the dream dimension. I saw other dream sequences earlier in the threads, and I thought it would be cool to invade one if I invested in the ability to do so.
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What situation?
>I have tried to avoid interaction witb Posey
No you didn't. You made 30+ posts of evasive, cryptic bullshit, when you could have just said nothing.
>>182373
>The described metallic object looks to be irrelevant and it should not take much time to find out what it is before moving on. There is nothing to gain by being cryptic to all the other players
This.
>Is there a tacit deal the other players don't know about
Even if there were, I wouldn't care.
>>182374
>Sweet, summer child
>Cute
Why are you always patronizing other players? It's not as cool as you think it is.
>>182376
There is nothing to iron out.
Just play the game.
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What does this even mean?
>>182379
>demands
What demands?
Is all of this about me suggesting that you roll a skill check? I literally don't care. The rest of us could roll. It doesn't matter. I was just trying to move the story along and settle the questions about your weird dildo so we could get to the light house.
>Theres this odd and prevailing attitude that other characters are stepping stones, or a means to another particular character's desired end.
Idk how you came to this conclusion.
I suggested that you roll a skill check to appraise the item that you had already claimed as yours. The rest of us had already rolled checks to identify it, and I didn't want to linger on it. You don't have to roll if you don't want to, and you could have just said that you didn't want to instead of confusing people with your weird cryptic jargon.
>>182382
>Can you please not shit up my thread with cryptic arguing? It's unpleasant for the rest of us. We don't want to wade through shit to get to the substantial replies. It makes it harder to backread. And it kills the thread more quickly.
This.
I'm sorry for participating in the spam. It's a waste of everyone's time.
>When you have a problem with another player, can you just write out, in plain English, what the issue is?
>if you can't or won't do that, then please just don't post.
This please.
>While Brie's player won't tell us what the issue is, I think there's a very fair bet that a big part of the reason is you telling him what he should do with his own character - and then still insisting on it 20 posts later. It's clearly not appreciated. Don't do it.
Alright. I just got confused by the way he replied.
>is not appreciated by me
Noted.
>None of the other of us six people know what the deal you made is. Evidently neither does Posey. Can you just say what the issue is not force the other six people to sift through a half dozen posts on some kind of "deal" that is not explained and is secret? It's basically spam to talk about it here.
I didn't even know there was a deal.
When I said "what's your deal" I meant to ask what his issue was, because he was doing the "stonewalling discussion with cryptic nonsense" thing again.
>Your character can't even sleep. How could she hope to dream?
Well, vampires sleep in coffins, don't they? There's also the whole dream haunting thing they do.
It was a half-ironic shitpost to see how okay you were with the idea of adventuring in the dream dimension. I saw other dream sequences earlier in the threads, and I thought it would be cool to invade one if I invested in the ability to do so.
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>what situation
There's two primary possibilities.
The first is that Posey and I just rub eachother the wrong way, and all of our misgivings and conflicts have been entirely organic and unrelated to anything else.
The second is that there's something unresolved between me and Posey such that they feel entitled to harangue me any time I'm disinclined to say how high every time they say jump.
Ive tried to get along in a gaming group sense, trying to opt for less contrary positions and to admit when I start acting irrationally (and the many reasons why), and not only has that been thrown in my face multiple times in a most contemptible manner, but when challenged there's the little boy "I'm sowwwy, I didn't mean tooo", and then 2 days later hes back to diligently searching for a nerve to jump up and down on, typically because he wants to advance the story without GM and I'm usually the one insisting he not, or otherwise waiting on fucking clarification because GM doesnt have the energy to effectively respond to my post because he's responding to a dozen other "Posey is bored" posts. At least when I take the time to embellish and/or length post, it doesnt typically demand a response.
And wouldn't you know it, every time Ive lost my shit I've has Posey all up in my ass. Might be a correlation there.
[Read more] >what situation
There's two primary possibilities.
The first is that Posey and I just rub eachother the wrong way, and all of our misgivings and conflicts have been entirely organic and unrelated to anything else.
The second is that there's something unresolved between me and Posey such that they feel entitled to harangue me any time I'm disinclined to say how high every time they say jump.
Ive tried to get along in a gaming group sense, trying to opt for less contrary positions and to admit when I start acting irrationally (and the many reasons why), and not only has that been thrown in my face multiple times in a most contemptible manner, but when challenged there's the little boy "I'm sowwwy, I didn't mean tooo", and then 2 days later hes back to diligently searching for a nerve to jump up and down on, typically because he wants to advance the story without GM and I'm usually the one insisting he not, or otherwise waiting on fucking clarification because GM doesnt have the energy to effectively respond to my post because he's responding to a dozen other "Posey is bored" posts. At least when I take the time to embellish and/or length post, it doesnt typically demand a response.
And wouldn't you know it, every time Ive lost my shit I've has Posey all up in my ass. Might be a correlation there.
>>182389
I was asking about this particular situation.
>The second is that there's something unresolved between me and Posey
I have nothing to resolve with you. Maybe you think I have an issue with you, but I really don't. I don't know why you randomly get do antagonistic for some reason.
I'll admit, for about a week after your "threatening to kill the party" thing, I was a bit wary of you, because I was prepared to treat you like a potentially hostile player, but I got over that a long time ago. It's over: I have no problems with you.
I have only been trying to get along with you this entire game, but for completely undisclosed and uncommunicated reasons you don't seem to want to do that.
Even last night, all I did was suggest rolling a skill check, because players generally like having opportunities to roll their skills so I thought I might remind you this this was the opportune moment to do that. I only suggested that because I would have appreciated it if the same was done to me. I wasn't trying to control you in any way.
Maybe I came off as demanding, maybe what I said was offensive, but I had no way of knowing that because YOU DIDN'T TELL ME. Instead, you just spammed a dozen posts of increasingly adversarial and cryptic nonsense that accomplished nothing but frustrating and confusing everyone involved. All you had to say was "I don't want to do that."
>just rub eachother the wrong way
The only thing that rubs me wrong is your adversarial method of communication, or lack thereof.
Why can't you just tell us what your issues are, instead of making 30-50 one-sentence snide remarks of cryptic nonsense? Maybe you think it's cool to flood the thread with cryptic posts acting like a druidic hermit who only speaks in riddles, but to the rest of us it's just frustrating and unfun.
Last night was an example: if you didn't want to roll the skill check, why didn't you just say so? I wasted two hours of my time trying to interpret what your problem was from your nonsense spam.
Another example was the fit you threw over me asking for permission in-character it Posey could finish Sea Stone: you made 70-90 posts containing one sentence or less, but in none of them you said what your actual problem was.
Why can't you just say what your problems are in plain English? Have you learned nothing from the show? If you tell us what your problems are clearly, we can address them accordingly. If you instead spam the thread with cryptic nonsense, you just come off as adversarial and unapproachable, and your issues get ignored.
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>The second is that there's something unresolved between me and Posey
I have nothing to resolve with you. Maybe you think I have an issue with you, but I really don't. I don't know why you randomly get do antagonistic for some reason.
I'll admit, for about a week after your "threatening to kill the party" thing, I was a bit wary of you, because I was prepared to treat you like a potentially hostile player, but I got over that a long time ago. It's over: I have no problems with you.
I have only been trying to get along with you this entire game, but for completely undisclosed and uncommunicated reasons you don't seem to want to do that.
Even last night, all I did was suggest rolling a skill check, because players generally like having opportunities to roll their skills so I thought I might remind you this this was the opportune moment to do that. I only suggested that because I would have appreciated it if the same was done to me. I wasn't trying to control you in any way.
Maybe I came off as demanding, maybe what I said was offensive, but I had no way of knowing that because YOU DIDN'T TELL ME. Instead, you just spammed a dozen posts of increasingly adversarial and cryptic nonsense that accomplished nothing but frustrating and confusing everyone involved. All you had to say was "I don't want to do that."
>just rub eachother the wrong way
The only thing that rubs me wrong is your adversarial method of communication, or lack thereof.
Why can't you just tell us what your issues are, instead of making 30-50 one-sentence snide remarks of cryptic nonsense? Maybe you think it's cool to flood the thread with cryptic posts acting like a druidic hermit who only speaks in riddles, but to the rest of us it's just frustrating and unfun.
Last night was an example: if you didn't want to roll the skill check, why didn't you just say so? I wasted two hours of my time trying to interpret what your problem was from your nonsense spam.
Another example was the fit you threw over me asking for permission in-character it Posey could finish Sea Stone: you made 70-90 posts containing one sentence or less, but in none of them you said what your actual problem was.
Why can't you just say what your problems are in plain English? Have you learned nothing from the show? If you tell us what your problems are clearly, we can address them accordingly. If you instead spam the thread with cryptic nonsense, you just come off as adversarial and unapproachable, and your issues get ignored.
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The subtext of this appears to be
>Spend a week or two coming up with a whole framework for a character and theme did you?
>Be a shame if someone made a character along the same lines
Immediately afterward, you started (ahem) "being pushy" about the check in thread, and I felt you were being adversarial on multiple fronts. This is not the first time I have observed you do this, in fact while on the surface you claim the OOC thread is to contain unnecessary cross-talk, I can point to numerous instances where it appears to have been made FOR it. You'll posture innocently in one while taking shots in another.
At least, thats certainly what the evidence suggests to me. If I have to end every post with "Thats what Brie os doing, and I am going to decline whatever else is happening until I directly reference GM or another party member, I guess thats what I'll do.
Brie had gone back to surveillance, and I was waiting on GM to.either carry the narration forward - something (you) seemed all to keen just before when Brie was trying to have a moment with what I hoped was something cool, and likewise when he was having his safecracker moment. Maybe Im hypersensitive, but during other player moments (or.maybe just mine) you come across like the "Can we GO now???" kid, who I'm.inconveniencing because GM is addressing me for a moment.
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The subtext of this appears to be
>Spend a week or two coming up with a whole framework for a character and theme did you?
>Be a shame if someone made a character along the same lines
Immediately afterward, you started (ahem) "being pushy" about the check in thread, and I felt you were being adversarial on multiple fronts. This is not the first time I have observed you do this, in fact while on the surface you claim the OOC thread is to contain unnecessary cross-talk, I can point to numerous instances where it appears to have been made FOR it. You'll posture innocently in one while taking shots in another.
At least, thats certainly what the evidence suggests to me. If I have to end every post with "Thats what Brie os doing, and I am going to decline whatever else is happening until I directly reference GM or another party member, I guess thats what I'll do.
Brie had gone back to surveillance, and I was waiting on GM to.either carry the narration forward - something (you) seemed all to keen just before when Brie was trying to have a moment with what I hoped was something cool, and likewise when he was having his safecracker moment. Maybe Im hypersensitive, but during other player moments (or.maybe just mine) you come across like the "Can we GO now???" kid, who I'm.inconveniencing because GM is addressing me for a moment.
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>Be a shame if someone made a character along the same lines
That wasn't adversarial. That was an ironic way to express the awkwardness of the situation of two similar characters potentially being introduced. I mentioned the nightstalker cohort last year, and I mentioned a ghoul bat months ago, I even started roleplaying her in the diner: I did not just suddenly made it up just to spite you. I was intending to work it out in thread, or just drop my character altogether.
>second paragraph
Idk what you're trying to communicate here. Are you saying that you didn't get enough time to roleplay your thing? What does that have to do with what I was trying to do?
I thought we had already left for the lighthouse. GM was already describing the thick foggy environment.
And you didn't address anything I said or asked in the previous post
>Be a shame if someone made a character along the same lines
That wasn't adversarial. That was an ironic way to express the awkwardness of the situation of two similar characters potentially being introduced. I mentioned the nightstalker cohort last year, and I mentioned a ghoul bat months ago, I even started roleplaying her in the diner: I did not just suddenly made it up just to spite you. I was intending to work it out in thread, or just drop my character altogether.
>second paragraph
Idk what you're trying to communicate here. Are you saying that you didn't get enough time to roleplay your thing? What does that have to do with what I was trying to do?
I thought we had already left for the lighthouse. GM was already describing the thick foggy environment.
And you didn't address anything I said or asked in the previous post
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It’s not a trap. It’s a harpoon head that contains an explosive charge. It’s ammunition, like a shotgun shell. Sure, you could rig it to explode as a part of a trap, just as you could a shotgun shell. So I said there was no trap, because there wasn’t. The harpoon head was not rigged with a wire not any other device to detonate; it was not a part of a trap.
I suppose it makes sense that “trap sense” is a general “knowledge:explosives, bombs, and ammunition” roll, but that didn’t occur to me at the time.
Lay off of me. The party had no rogue for five years, and this is the first time I’ve ever had anyone use trap sense on something like this.
It’s not a trap. It’s a harpoon head that contains an explosive charge. It’s ammunition, like a shotgun shell. Sure, you could rig it to explode as a part of a trap, just as you could a shotgun shell. So I said there was no trap, because there wasn’t. The harpoon head was not rigged with a wire not any other device to detonate; it was not a part of a trap.
I suppose it makes sense that “trap sense” is a general “knowledge:explosives, bombs, and ammunition” roll, but that didn’t occur to me at the time.
Lay off of me. The party had no rogue for five years, and this is the first time I’ve ever had anyone use trap sense on something like this.
>>182401
We should take it with us. It could be useful in the event that we lose one of our explosive charges, or an unexpected kraken fight.
We should take it with us. It could be useful in the event that we lose one of our explosive charges, or an unexpected kraken fight.
>>182394
I'm sorry I jumped to conclusions. Just like I am not interpreted how I think I will be, you are not always easy to interpret, and the interpretations available tend to appear adversarial.
So I'll say this: if you want to be helpful and indocate what GM has said and I may have missed, link the post. Otherwise, please give me ny space in game - including being at least seemingly patient when I'm doing something. Ever notice how when not doing stuff, Brie flies up and surveils (read: allows players/characters the chance to do things)?
I'm sorry I jumped to conclusions. Just like I am not interpreted how I think I will be, you are not always easy to interpret, and the interpretations available tend to appear adversarial.
So I'll say this: if you want to be helpful and indocate what GM has said and I may have missed, link the post. Otherwise, please give me ny space in game - including being at least seemingly patient when I'm doing something. Ever notice how when not doing stuff, Brie flies up and surveils (read: allows players/characters the chance to do things)?
Maybe this will help give perspective:
Rosie's favorite moments have bern d escribed as clutch battle moments; those are always great.
My favorite moments are scenes where my character interprets the situation and does something awesome; "If you're unfamiliar", Brie deciding to save the changelings and later getting a double nat-20 in both a griffon's eyes, after playfully dancing while being shot at, was one of my top 3 RP moments.
I dont need to almost die, I need to be able to envision something cool. Let me have my moments.
Rosie's favorite moments have bern d escribed as clutch battle moments; those are always great.
My favorite moments are scenes where my character interprets the situation and does something awesome; "If you're unfamiliar", Brie deciding to save the changelings and later getting a double nat-20 in both a griffon's eyes, after playfully dancing while being shot at, was one of my top 3 RP moments.
I dont need to almost die, I need to be able to envision something cool. Let me have my moments.
Behold: I have discovered an exploding harpoon
Is cooler than
Behold: idfk what it is even though I said I was trying to figure out what it is.
I'm fine with Behold: the dice decided I'm an idiot, and havent figured the thing out
Is cooler than
Behold: idfk what it is even though I said I was trying to figure out what it is.
I'm fine with Behold: the dice decided I'm an idiot, and havent figured the thing out
Oh, hey, spearguns are simple weapons in d20 modern, and they can load harpoons. That means any of us can use harpoons if we find a spear gun here.
Harpoons are considered by some to be the strongest exotic weapon in 3.5e: they do just as much damage coming out as they do going in, and they can immobilize targets to prevent them from charging.
http://dmreference.com/MRD/Arcana/Equipment/Weapons/Ranged_Weapons.htm
>>182409
You should take it. Look around to see if you can find a spear gun to go with it. If you find a spear gun, take as many harpoons as you can carry as amo. Harpoon + sneak attack is great.
https://www.realmshelps.net/stores/weapons/Harpoon
Harpoons are considered by some to be the strongest exotic weapon in 3.5e: they do just as much damage coming out as they do going in, and they can immobilize targets to prevent them from charging.
http://dmreference.com/MRD/Arcana/Equipment/Weapons/Ranged_Weapons.htm
>>182409
You should take it. Look around to see if you can find a spear gun to go with it. If you find a spear gun, take as many harpoons as you can carry as amo. Harpoon + sneak attack is great.
https://www.realmshelps.net/stores/weapons/Harpoon
>>182410
>you should take it
I'll actually consider it for later, as it bypasses Brie's aversion to firearms AND isn't 'just' a crossbow.
As for the harpoon head in question, I'm fine with rolling it that Brie somehow didnt notice the explosive charge cuz harpoon, and offered it along to the captain who.it would seem it blonged to to begin with (and we may need his/their help)
>you should take it
I'll actually consider it for later, as it bypasses Brie's aversion to firearms AND isn't 'just' a crossbow.
As for the harpoon head in question, I'm fine with rolling it that Brie somehow didnt notice the explosive charge cuz harpoon, and offered it along to the captain who.it would seem it blonged to to begin with (and we may need his/their help)
>>182401
In finality, I am genuinely sorry. I appreciate that you comprehend my frustration, and I comprehend why you overlooked my intentions in the moment.
>>182394
Maybe they can do mutually beneficial business with Lacey. I'm open to it. I have a "thing" planned to establish Lacey's establishment, a soiree where all of Baltimare (including the vagrants!) will be invited!
In finality, I am genuinely sorry. I appreciate that you comprehend my frustration, and I comprehend why you overlooked my intentions in the moment.
>>182394
Maybe they can do mutually beneficial business with Lacey. I'm open to it. I have a "thing" planned to establish Lacey's establishment, a soiree where all of Baltimare (including the vagrants!) will be invited!
>>182412
Too bad mundane (and magical) crafting takes so long in 3.5e... I can never play an Artificer without multiple Dedicated Wrights crafting for me.
This is where Craft Points come in handy
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/craftPoints.htm
Good variant if you want to have a lot of crafting in your game. Slightly abusable if you control a lot of intelligent minions (i.e. making a bunch of homunculi and having them spend their craft points), but balanced overall.
It's a per-level resource, but unlike action points, craft points are cumulative.
Too bad mundane (and magical) crafting takes so long in 3.5e... I can never play an Artificer without multiple Dedicated Wrights crafting for me.
This is where Craft Points come in handy
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/craftPoints.htm
Good variant if you want to have a lot of crafting in your game. Slightly abusable if you control a lot of intelligent minions (i.e. making a bunch of homunculi and having them spend their craft points), but balanced overall.
It's a per-level resource, but unlike action points, craft points are cumulative.
>>182415
I've asked GM pone for a change to the crafting rules, he hasn't said no to it so I'm curious if he agrees: I'd want the checks to be done per hour rather than per week, as especially with a slower paced game like this one the normal rules mean we would never be able to actually craft anything. Per hour means that simple items like Cure Light Wounds potions or a simple spear or knife can be made in just a couple hours, while the more expensive and powerful items will still need anywhere from a couple days to a week to complete.
I've asked GM pone for a change to the crafting rules, he hasn't said no to it so I'm curious if he agrees: I'd want the checks to be done per hour rather than per week, as especially with a slower paced game like this one the normal rules mean we would never be able to actually craft anything. Per hour means that simple items like Cure Light Wounds potions or a simple spear or knife can be made in just a couple hours, while the more expensive and powerful items will still need anywhere from a couple days to a week to complete.
>>182419
You mention magic items, but it's questionable how XP mechanics would work in this game. 3.5e really isn't made for milestone games.
That's why I didn't bother to take any crafting feats, despite having had virtually unlimited downtime before Posey met with the party.
I did put Ritual Of Transference in though, so that I could have allies, minions and captured enemies to pour their XP into items for me, if the need arose. You can gain ritual of transference as a bonus feat if you participate in multiple rituals of transference or craft talismans of transference (backstory material), so I could give you the rest of we cooperate.
You mention magic items, but it's questionable how XP mechanics would work in this game. 3.5e really isn't made for milestone games.
That's why I didn't bother to take any crafting feats, despite having had virtually unlimited downtime before Posey met with the party.
I did put Ritual Of Transference in though, so that I could have allies, minions and captured enemies to pour their XP into items for me, if the need arose. You can gain ritual of transference as a bonus feat if you participate in multiple rituals of transference or craft talismans of transference (backstory material), so I could give you the rest of we cooperate.
>>182420
Paying XP to craft magic items just feels kinda wrong to me. Magic items already take so much money to craft, and you have to have the skill points allocated to the Craft skills which take away from other arguably more useful skills, and on top of that you have to have a specific feat to craft magic items which takes away a feat slot from other more useful feats, adding an XP cost on top of that just feels like a way to discourage the entire practice. What's the point of taking this feat and putting all of these skill points into crafting if you're gonna be penalized for it? It's not like finding a magic weapon in a dungeon subtracts from your XP or anything like that.
Paying XP to craft magic items just feels kinda wrong to me. Magic items already take so much money to craft, and you have to have the skill points allocated to the Craft skills which take away from other arguably more useful skills, and on top of that you have to have a specific feat to craft magic items which takes away a feat slot from other more useful feats, adding an XP cost on top of that just feels like a way to discourage the entire practice. What's the point of taking this feat and putting all of these skill points into crafting if you're gonna be penalized for it? It's not like finding a magic weapon in a dungeon subtracts from your XP or anything like that.
>>182422
I wouldn't say I'd rather make them than find them? Like, finding cool stuff is always great, but it's also great being able to make your own stuff personalized and tailored specifically for you.
I wouldn't say I'd rather make them than find them? Like, finding cool stuff is always great, but it's also great being able to make your own stuff personalized and tailored specifically for you.
It's also great being able to make cool stuff for your other party members who don't have those ranks in the crafting skills. Like, genuinely I'd want to hear from everyone if there's anything they'd like for Silver to make them when he gets his smithy up and running, he's got plenty of ranks in Weaponsmithing and a few even in Armorsmithing. Kira's got some ranks in Bowmaking too if anyone wants a bow or arrows or somesuch.
>>182422
I have no craft feats, so I would rather find them.
Silver seems really interested in crafting though, even if he's only going to use it to craft mundane weapons (suboptimal, but in-character and fun).
If I took Craft Wonderous Item, I would probably only use it to spellstitch minions.
If I took ranks in a mundane craft skill, I would use it on Craft (Writing), to write reference books for the university.
I have no craft feats, so I would rather find them.
Silver seems really interested in crafting though, even if he's only going to use it to craft mundane weapons (suboptimal, but in-character and fun).
If I took Craft Wonderous Item, I would probably only use it to spellstitch minions.
If I took ranks in a mundane craft skill, I would use it on Craft (Writing), to write reference books for the university.
>>182425
Also, it's not as if crafting magic items is out of the picture. Perhaps Silver can take the feat at a later level, or he can hire an enchanter for his smithy (basically just an NPC with the feat for crafting magic items, where Silver pays the cost for making the item, crafts it, then gives it to the enchanter to make into a magic item).
Also, it's not as if crafting magic items is out of the picture. Perhaps Silver can take the feat at a later level, or he can hire an enchanter for his smithy (basically just an NPC with the feat for crafting magic items, where Silver pays the cost for making the item, crafts it, then gives it to the enchanter to make into a magic item).
>>182428
>Perhaps Silver can take the feat at a later level
>implying we'll ever make it to lvl 9
Lol, lmao even.
I would like that too though. Posey could provide select spells if Silver provides the feat. I want a set of Grotesque +1 Fearsome Feycraft spiked Chain Shirt, made out of hydra bones dipped liquid metal.
Silver has a caster level from his horn magic, so he should qualify for the feat. Other ponies would need to provide spells if he crafts anything other than +X weapons/armor though.
>Perhaps Silver can take the feat at a later level
>implying we'll ever make it to lvl 9
Lol, lmao even.
I would like that too though. Posey could provide select spells if Silver provides the feat. I want a set of Grotesque +1 Fearsome Feycraft spiked Chain Shirt, made out of hydra bones dipped liquid metal.
Silver has a caster level from his horn magic, so he should qualify for the feat. Other ponies would need to provide spells if he crafts anything other than +X weapons/armor though.
>>182429
>>182430
Actually getting super hyped for this idea with you guys being on board. Silver provides the tools, skills, and feat, Posey provides the spells, and Brie provides the components, and Silver will make all of the cool stuff you guys could want, like Posey's chain skirt, or maybe even special kunai daggers for Brie that he can throw and then recall back to himself.
>>182432
And I haven't forgotten about my loyal cohort Mala, who will most certainly want some cool stuff, too.
>>182430
Actually getting super hyped for this idea with you guys being on board. Silver provides the tools, skills, and feat, Posey provides the spells, and Brie provides the components, and Silver will make all of the cool stuff you guys could want, like Posey's chain skirt, or maybe even special kunai daggers for Brie that he can throw and then recall back to himself.
>>182432
And I haven't forgotten about my loyal cohort Mala, who will most certainly want some cool stuff, too.
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