This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
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>>168225>It's no mystery that gravity is based on densityCareful anon, Density is not the same than mass.
>>168226>Observable>Repeatable>Measureable>It's funny how you think that those alone is how things are "proven".The 3 items mentioned above are cornerstones of the Scientific Method. Gravity doesn't meet any of those 3 parameters and therefore is just pitiful pseudoscience.
>>168236>ObservableEvery observable quality of gravity lines up with predictions made before the model was formed.
>RepeatableI think the fact we can fly across the breadth of the earth at a stable velocity in what we feel as a straight line showcases that our models for gravity and how best to work around and within it have been repeated pretty thoroughly.
>MeasurableNot one flat earth model to scale can even be produced, let alone without conflicting with itself. Meanwhile we have both Newton's and Einstein's models of gravity which match our experience about as closely as is possible
The reason I'm not even bothering to bust out the math and graphs is because, as has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt through this thread, any physical evidence produced in favor of a round earth or gravity working as we understand it will simply be dismissed as part of the cover-up. If I sit here and argue flight paths you're gonna tell me that pilots simply choose the least effective flightpaths to maintain the illusion of sphericity. That any and all mathematic models related to large celestial bodies are inventions of the masons. This song and dance is tiresome.
>>168237FYI. When this bread reaches 2,000 posts I'll make a fresh one.
>>168238And you spamming faggots call
me a bad actor with ill intent.
>>168239B-but you want this thread to keep going forever?
>>168235You're right. I stand corrected.
>>168236How does it not meet those?
Can any flat earthers tell me more about what glory lies beyond the great ice wall? What civilizations and explorers might've journeyed past it?
Fresh memes just baked. HiRes.
Flight Route Memes.
>>168397Sagging will give you the attention you wanted and deserve. None.
>>168410>why do commercial flights sometimes take detours or stop in other placesI have one very simple explanation, and it doesn't involve the entire world being topsy turvy: there is not enough financial incentive for a commercial flight which often requires a certain number of seats filled to be profitable to go to your specific destination from your specific departure region. Example, Mexico is a developing country which is decently populated but generally quite poor; Los Angeles is in the country closest to Mexico in a state right against its border. More people in California are either beaners or have the affluence to vacation in a poor place to get their cheap hookers and margaritas.
This is one of the reasons that flights to Christchurch are somewhat sparse depending on where you're departing from; New Zealand isn't that big of a country and Christchurch is not very populous or mainstream of a place (unless you're the PM of NZ touring to apologize to the poor Muslims for evil white people)
>>168413>profitabilityI heard that many times and for the unaware to the heliocentric model lie makes totally sense, however taking a closer look, the cost for extra fuel makes no sense and the detours are way, way, way too long.
>>168414You do know that map of yours is a warped, not-to-scale interpretation of a globe earth using the north pole as its center, and the lines spaced out as a means of illustrating the distortion as the southern hemisphere is warped beyond all recognition, right?
>>168415>You do know that map of yours is a warped, not-to-scale interpretation of a globe earth using the north pole as its centerIt is as it is according to cartography scientifically drawn. See
>>149243 >>168416Alexander Gleason patented his work in the US patent numbered 497,917, stating the following:
>"The extorsion of the map from that of a globe consists, mainly in the straightening out of the meridian lines allowing each to retain their original value from Greenwich, the equator to the two poles."In the queen's English, what he's saying is that he knowingly used a globe shaped map of Earth, shifted perspective to the north pole, and extrapolated with even lines with reference to the meridian in order to come up with simplified time zones. Funny how your purpose is cartography for ease of navigation, instead of the establishment of simplified time zones. Why would he have to adapt his map from the globe model if this were a flat-earth researcher?
As a little side note to showcase why I'm not taking your argument that "it's just so far!" to heart: Greyhound buses have long distance detours all the time. The trip from Fayetteville NC to Columbia MO went as far south as Atlanta GA, both ways. This is because Fayetteville really isn't a super major city aside from the military base within it, and outside of the military which will happily pay their recruits' flight bills to go anywhere within the US, average Joes aren't vacationing to a college city in good ol' Misery where life is expensive and very unattractive for tourism.
>>168417>In the queen's English, what he's saying is that he knowingly used a globe shaped map of Earth, shifted perspective to the north pole, and extrapolated with even lines with reference to the meridian in order to come up with simplified time zones.I believe your are flipping the meaning. He calls the ball map out.
>>168417And the map issue is not restricted to that map in particular because the German High Command and the USAF also used that Flat Earth map to conduct the war. See
>>157419 >>168418I can forgive you for thinking that he's calling the globe some kind of extortion in the legal sense of the word, but in the context of the sentence he seems quite clear in saying "the difficult obtaining/crafting of this map from the other map" -- otherwise, he would be calling himself an extortionist twisting the arms of globe-earth cartographers to get them to confess to the
reeeaaal map, which I highly doubt.
>>168419I could name a dozen armies who used any vaguely representative maps for their planning, whether highly accurate or not, so long as they had some kind of handle on the topography of the region he is acting upon, which I can easily assume is on his other, more local maps. The map distorts the northern hemisphere the
least. Now if Hitler decided he'd fly bombers over Australia or Argentina and he used that map, he'd be bombing water with how off-base he'd be.
>>168420>I could name a dozen armies who used any vaguely representative maps for their planningIt is up to you if choose to believe the teachings for nomies or go straight for the maps used by professionals.
>>168421I literally couldn't even see a map in the first clip until the arrow pointed at it. The lines aside from the rings around what seem to be the center point don't even seem to have a pattern to them. The video of the phoneposter waving at a paper map is so low resolution and unfocused that I genuinely can't figure scale or even differentiation of countries' shapes. It looks like a high-fantasy map png you see hung up on an orc's fucking wall at a comically low resolution, or some kind of meme with a fisheye lens with its focal point somewhere that was totally arbitrary. I can't see the mileage markings, I can't see the flight lines themselves even with his finger going over them.
The line about curved/arced flights also showcases that you have never thrown a ball straight up while on a moving object. When something is moving or rotating, and you are going with its motion, you are essentially swimming along with the tide as opposed to upstream, which consumes less fuel and takes less time. Some flat earth proponents say this is just because of wind, but no wind speeds even remotely high enough to make a major difference have ever been recorded even amid hurricanes. And some of these inter-continental flights go in opposite directions simultaneously, are the wind currents localized to the planes, like a state-spanning tornado surrounding each individual plane that flies one way so they both make it to their destination quickly?
>>168422As I said, it is your choice which framework of knowledge you use.
>>168423Let's see, the framework which seems to purport to all the evidence and doesn't require believing the entirety of humanity has been duped into some mostly-inconsequential model of reality which only affects physicists and physicists seem just dandy doing experiments with.......or the one where gravity is actually electromagnetism but magnetic materials and forces are unaffected by its pull toward the Earth, the moon is a hologram or a flat object which everyone at every place in the world sees exactly the same way, eclipses require an anti-moon to explain, and plane travel is conducted entirely by conspirators of the NWO.
Oh yeah, you're right. Flat earth sure is an entertaining model. For science fiction novels.
>>168411Why would you sage if you want attention?
>>168424>and plane travel is conducted entirely by conspirators of the NWO.The plane model isn't even correct. It's just using "popular travel" routes, which are designed around providing airplanes with the most financially profitable routes, as in where civilization actually exists, as an example of said "conspiracy". This is despite the fact that you can personally charter a direct flight from one of those locations to another for a bit more money, but that's also further "solidifying" the conspiracy angle because you have to pay real money to do it.
>>168423Horsie knows what's right. Listen to horsie.
>Jesuits Erasing our Flat Earth - Documentary - (25:38 long)>How the biggest deception started and who promoted it, narrated by Johnny Cirucci. From the Holy Roman Empire, to modern times, while explaining the Jesuit connection with Pythagoras, Copernicus, Tycho Brahe, Kepler, Galileo, Einstein, etc.https://www.bitchute.com/video/u2N9xKJZA5zP/Mirror:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbyJDou4qQIt is a solid, informative documentary.
>>168460>How a Pilot Ended the GlobeHere's the 3rd part watching the stars moving in a totally different fashion than expected by the ballers.
>4,656 Miles and Zero Curvature - Part 3 (How a Pilot Ended the Globe) - (2:36 long)https://odysee.com/@TabooConspiracy:c/4,656-miles-and-zero-curvature-part-3:2Mirror:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RagVOOW-sa8 >>168572>more "wer do i go down doe" argumentsAllow me to put this in terms that even you might understand. Imagine, if you will, that there is a rubber band of a very specific distance connecting you and a plane to the very center of a ball earth. Elevation from the center would be exactly the same on a round trip no matter where you go. The "band" pulls in a manner that you could pull it further by tilting up, loosen it by tilting down, or stay at the same length with a moderate amount of downward force which is resisted by your craft on account of being aerodynamic.
You don't need to actively try to point down because the angle changing is imperceptibly small and elevation is not changing relative to the center of the earth on a cruise route.
>>168573>The "band" pulls in a manner that you could pull it further by tilting up, loosen it by tilting down, or stay at the same length with a moderate amount of downward force which is resisted by your craft on account of being aerodynamic.That's a fine explanation if you want to stick to the delusion; however the stars don't lie, if this realm would be a ball, stars would move upwards and they don't.
>>168574>the stars don't lieYou mean the stars that look different from places on different areas instead of looking the same across the flat earth? The stars that proponents of flat earth have to come up with shit like "personalized stars" to explain?
>>168575>the stars that look different from places on different areas>personalized starsWell, I don't want to gloat but you might need a bit of training on using the starts to navigate.
>>168576From the north hemisphere, the "starts" rotate in one direction, and from the south hemisphere, the "starts" rotate the other way. How is this? Imagine how that would look from a flat earth model. Imagine someone looking south from the south ends of South America, Africa, or Australia. On a round earth, aside from potential timezone differences, these people can all look south and see the Southern Cross. On a flat earth, these people are literally on opposite ends of the realm. How the fuck is that explicable with a flat earth?
>>168576>>168577Actually, to add to that, what the fuck is """south""" on a flat earth? These people would be looking in entirely different directions on the flat earth map, looking directly to the closest direction of the outer ring of Antarctica.
>>168578What???
>>168577The planed crossed the Ecuator tropic. Did you notice that happening?
>>168580Why did you delete your post if you're not even going to spellcheck what you said? How does this make it so these three countries' southernmost points are literally looking in
OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS? >>168583???????????
Firstly you literally changed the topic of the stars and then told me to get "back to the topic." Secondly, how the fuck does the planet cross a tropic? Tropic literally means a region of the planet.
>>168584>how the fuck does the planet cross a tropic?This is elementary school geography class. In my region I learnt about tropics perhaps when I was 10. I assume you are the product of the Rockefeller curriculum, so, it is not your fault.
Seriously, would you like to talk about Hollywood movies instead?
>>168587Rockefeller curriculum indeed. The jews did a very good job retarding the population.
>>168588This doesn't clear anything up.
>>168588And U are the biggest example.
>>168589It was you who said the stars rotate in opposite directions in every hemisphere, then, if you know the very basics of geography...
I'm not saying that's incorrect, I'm saying where in the video happened? And because you have no clue and speaks only because of the movies and what the school taught you, you are more than confused.
Stick to Flat Earth fren, even if you insist you live on a ball, you will learn A LOT about STEM subjects and many other useful themes.
>>168591>I'm not saying that's incorrect, I'm saying where in the video happened?Motherfucker, go to the southern hemisphere. Set up a telescope and watch the change over the night. Fucking drive to South America through Mexico. It's not some super obscure thing that nobody is allowed to see because the EU will stop you by any means necessary.
And since you've completely ignored this point because you think naming tropics invalidates it:
how do these three locations see the same Southern Cross?