This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
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>>173307Draw the Jarkarta-Bogota flight paths on a flat earth map, and show how they could possibly be the same distance on a circle instead of a sphere.
You can't? Then that is the proof.
>>173310I have to check that. That said and back to the missing curvature, where is the curve?
>>173311Draw the lines, and you'll see that the curve is the only plausible solution.
>>173312Do you have a pic?
>>173313Several. Scroll up.
>>173313Here's just one example
>>172855>>173314I'm sick of them squirming away. I've spoonfed them so there's no excuse about how hard it is to look back.
>>173299>Don't bring up philosophical theorems like Occam's Razor if you don't want them to be applied to you as well.it never applied to me though, try again. "they cant fake everything" is not a rebuttal. you made the presumption that logistics is sound evidence, you need to back it up.
>So atheists supporting flat earth support your claim that the globe model is satanic, but Christians supporting round earth doesn't support that the globe model isn't satanic?Its sad that I have to even explain this. Who cares about who calls themselves "Christian"? nothing special in that argument. most Christians believe in all sorts of deceptions. There just seems to be a extreme correlation between scienceTM approved cosmology and having a higher percentage of atheism in a society. dont think its a coincidence. of course, I grant that many flat earthers and Christians both believe in insane things. who cares
>So atheists supporting flat earth support your claim that the globe model is satanic, but Christians supporting round earth doesn't support that the globe model isn't satanic?no. imagine being this light switch brained. never did I say atheists claim that. but they believe flat earth for other reason, such as observational evidence. both religion and evidence are good reasons to believe flat earth, for some not all
>He will never be powerful. People don't give him anything; he just convinces them to surrender their souls and be miserable like him, and he only does so because he's jealous of them and wants to drag them down to his level.
everytime you commit a sin you do a deal with the devil, can you tell us when the last time you sinned was? also youre rhetoric makes zero sense, people dont give their souls to satan, but they "surrender" their souls? what does that even mean lul
>>173300Ill ask this another time. everytime you sin you do a deal with the devil. can you tell us when was the last time you sinned?
>>173317>>173316>Muh Satan always has ur sole.Did you not read that nothing can ever take away from God's grasp?
>When sinned last?I'm not Jesus despite He who lives in me, it's likely I'll keep on fucking up.
Do you understand why His victory is so
total and
complete?
Do you not know you live in a totally new way of living that's not being under the Law?
>but muh Satan?What about him? Satan's a bitch ass pansy.
>deal with SatanHaha, no that's not how that works. Could a person actually attempt making a deal, kinda. But why would you? When you actually understand who God said you are why would you try taking a bad deal with that cunt?
Sin is transgressing God's immutable law. Transgressing means you violated the Law criminal scum.
Notice Satan is just trying to convince you to break rules because he doesn't like you.
You could even say he's a nudger.
God knowing Satan is going to nudge and tempt and fuck around, had the find out.
That is something even greater than the rule of God's Law. The Laws which Satan was using to nudge retards into breaking.
>But muh deal with debil!No dice, it's about which spirit is inside of you. It's either God or something else or nothing. Something else can easily enter an empty undefended house.
>But muh sin?Did you talk with Jesus or The Holy Ghost or Our Father?
Or are you kind of just saying shit? If you are I'll have you know I'm well versed in this topic you're trying to claim superiority on and more importantly The Comforter who shows God's Mind. So then it wouldn't be me who succeeds it's Him.
Are you sure?
>>173316>"they cant fake everything" is not a rebuttal.Nobody said they couldn't. We only said they had no motive to do something so difficult.
>it never applied to me thoughIf it applies to anyone, it applies to you too.
>Who cares about who calls themselves "Christian"? Then what makes you an authority on who is a good Christian? You've been making up heretical non-canon nonsense about "sucking energy"; you're none to judge others for their faith just because the idea of the universe being vast makes you feel small.
>There just seems to be a extreme correlation between scienceTM approved cosmology and having a higher percentage of atheism in a society. dont think its a coincidence. Correlation =/= causation
Basic statistics.
>people dont give their souls to satanI didn't say that.
>they "surrender" their souls?To turn away from God and face damnation with Satan is surrender. Satan's whole gig is trying to trick you into making the wrong choice, so you can burn with him.
>can you tell us when the last time you sinned was?Yes, I can.
>>173318>completely avoids the questionyoure the one claiming Satan has no power. hes a fallen angel after all, and has thousands of years of knowlege and wisdom
>>173319>Then what makes you an authority on who is a good Christian? You've been making up heretical non-canon nonsense about "sucking energy"; you're none to judge others for their faith just because the idea of the universe being vast makes you feel small.this is a flat earth thread not a Christian thread. but you first define what you mean by "good christian". also you dont know what heretical means
>Correlation =/= causationreddit moment. there are both correlation and causation. you are illiterate and dont know what those mean
>>173320>Thousands of year to attempt to be God.>Whiffs it.>God wins, but Satan try's to scramble together a response.>Fucks up and fails.Wooow, a being who is more like a very loud multitone calculator that could calculate far more than the physical brain could do acts like a frustrated glownigger and accomplishes nothing in the end besides being a dressed up tool.
>You got to worry.No. Love isn't based in fear. Satan is just some faggot being a dick.
God, His Spirit and His Son has the keys to everything and more, they called us to be family with them. The Creator of everything including Satan and me and you has an interest in us. If you ask you'll recieve.
He won't let you go when you reach back.
That's why I don't care about Satan or his cohorts or minions or whatever.
He's got this.
If you want to participate with Him it's highly recommended. Just spending anything with God is always worth it.
You haven't been recieving because you haven't been asking.
It's so important that you have The Holy Ghost inside you so what He has in store for you is right there.
>Knowledge WisdomWhy would I listen to Satan when I can listen to Him who is far greater.
Anything Satan would attempt to give of his will would be tainted at best.
>Smorter than youPoint is I'm insignificant, but God has the scale balanced. What you choose is yours. You can, because of God's grace.
That's also why I don't fret about Satan or any of those fucks.
You ask for the scales to be tipped to God's side even when fuck ups happen, and it already is so.
Besides why ask Satan when I can ask God?
God knows, and He has better things in store.
>Correlation CausationProve it. Point being you need more data to fo so.
>>173320>you dont know what heretical meanDefinition:
>belief or opinion contrary to orthodox religious (especially Christian) doctrine."Sucking energy" isn't part of Christianity. You made it up, and you're trying to pass it off as gospel when it's just your fanfic headcanon, which is heresy by definition.
>claiming Satan has no powerHe has no power over Christians. He is a tranny loser who's afraid of Jesus.
>thousands of years of knowlege and wisdomHe was at the peak of his wisdom when he served god, and has not gotten smarter since he fell from grace. He is incapable of learning, and refuses to even read the book. All of his demons kill themselves if you tell them the name of Christ, and he'd kill himself too if he weren't too scared to ever go near a Christian.
>define what you mean by "good christian"Not my place to judge. Ask God.
>reddit momentI have never used reddit even once, lol.
>there are both correlation and causationThere is not even correlation. People have believed in the world being round for centuries. The decline in religiosity is a very recent phenomena in the past few decades.
>you are illiterate and dont know what those meanYou can't even form a proper sentence, capitalize your words, punctuate your sentences, or properly place an apostrophe in contractions, and yet you call others illiterate.
You are a hypocrite.
>>173321>Why would I listen to Satandidnt say you should
>Prove it. Point being you need more data to fo so.i dont have to prove anything, both correlation and causation exists. youve said nothing here.
>>173323There is no correlation, neither is there causation.
Decline in religiosity occurred centuries after most people believed that the world was round.
>>173322you believe satan doesnt feed off the energy of others, and nothing in your definition is relevant to what I said. like I said, you dont understand what heresy is, and by claiming satan doesn feed of the energy of sould, is non-canon and heretical. you got it backwards
>Not my place to judge. Ask God.then why did you bring up "good Christian" if you cant define what you meant?
>>173324yes there is, correlation and causation both exist. youre denying the existence of statistical measurements
>>173326>yes there is, correlationHow is it a correlation if one even happens centuries after the other? If they do not occur in the same millenia, they are not correlated.
>>173325>then why did you bring up "good Christian"It was you who was accusing others of being Satanic false-Christians.
>you believe satan doesnt feed off the energy of others,I believe he's a faggot tranny who will never have any power, and only tries to tempt people because that's what total losers do.
>by claiming satan doesn feed of the energy of sould, is non-canon and heretical. you got it backwardsWhat Christian canon, scripture, tradition or history makes references to Satan "feeding off of energy"? How is that Christian dogma?
>>173328>It was you who was accusing others of being Satanic false-ChristiansI said they are fake Christians, lukewarm and soft. I never said the term "satanic christian"
>What Christian canon, scripture, tradition or history makes references to Satan "feeding off of energy"? How is that Christian dogma?you tell me the reason you think satan wants to take souls in the first place. more semantics
>>173329>you tell me the reason you think satan wants to take souls in the first place.Because he's jealous and spiteful, so he wants other losers to suffer with him.
Misery loves company.
>fake ChristiansWho are you to judge who is a real Christian?
>more semanticsOn that note, maybe learn some proper grammar.
>>173290Why do you assume we believe in your fiction BS, or that we are right wing nuts to begin with? I couldn't vote for Trump as soon he showed his zionist interest, and never regretted it.
Flat earth is about research, not politics or religion, myself I'm leaning left because I question authority.
>>173275Lmao I''ve shown this post to a friend, had a good laugh, may bring it to a convention!
>>173298I know you are a scientist but you just prove you're just a religious nutcase. Research, research research! I pay you with my taxes!
>>173331>Who are you to judge who is a real Christian?by what they say and preach. which authority are you goimg to appeal to? you think calling yourself "Christian" is good enough grounds for good morals? how did you arrive at that conclusion?
>>173333>good enough grounds for good morals?The shape of the earth is not a moral question.
>>173334It’s not really a religious question either, you’re pretty much just taking Christianity and grafting your own schizo fanfiction onto it.
>>173335I know. It was the flat earther who claimed it was a religious thing.
>>173332The boomer said that round earth is a conspiracy to turn people into nihilistic atheists, just because the idea of the universe being big makes him feel small. He went further as to say that they do it so that Satan can "suck up nihilistic energy".
Other Christian anons were saying that he is wrong, because the idea of a round earth or large universe never prevented them from being Christians, as well as to debate the non-canon idea of Satan "sucking energy" from people, which isn't a canon part of Christian dogma or tradition.
>Why do you assume we believeBecause 3/4 times people claim that the earth is flat, it's just religious screeching.
But since you claim otherwise, what would you say is the motive for why the powers that be would go through so much trouble to create a round earth conspiracy? What do they have to gain? Why would they do this? What is their reason to spend trillions of dollars and centuries of time and effort to do this?
>>173336> I know. It was the flat earther who claimed it was a religious thingMy bad fam, thought you were the other guy. With no IDs it’s hard to tell who’s who.
>>173337>With no IDs it’s hard to tell who’s who.By design. The boomer made the thread without IDs to mask how hard he's been samefagging.
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>>173339About time! Shut it down.
>>173339>>173340It's not about this thread, but threads in general. Bump limits are absurdly long on this site.
Bump limits exist for a reason.
>>173341I think the reason they're so high on this board is because of the game threads. The rest of the site is like 700 I think, which isn't that much higher than 4chan. But I agree, a 2600 post limit is pretty absurd, especially when you have shitty bait threads like this abusing it.
>>173351wtf, it's still bumping. will this stupid thread never die?
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>>173339>>173340>>173341>>173351>If (((you))) can't win then shut it down.
>>173354Yeah, well, it's kind of hard for anyone to "win" when you basically just deflect and post shitty memes whenever anyone backs you into a corner. On top of that, it's an extremely silly thread topic that can be debunked by anyone with access to a high school science textbook. So in the end, it's a lot of energy wasted trying to win a pointless internet argument against a delusional autist with too much time on his hands. There are no winners here.
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>>173357>On top of that, it's an extremely silly thread topicI disagree, it is the most important one.
>>173364Yeah I know you do. Thus reinforcing my view that you are a delusional autist with too much time on his hands.
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>>173364You didn't give the love and care it deserves if it's that important.
So I'm giving it just as much love if not more love and care than what you do.
>Pic is facebook tier stillYou haven't changed one bit.
>>173364>a fucking PNG that's somehow still been sent through jpg crunch hell.Wtf do you get these awful images macros?
>>173354>I can't win so I'll just spam nonsense instead.You did it after all these posts you've failed to coherently explain Flat Earth, why it's important, how it's functional or anything of substance.
I'm just watching the unlit fireplace till eventually it too ends.
You
could put something of value in here, but you haven't for three years anywhere so I don't have much hope.
>>173356>I don't know how the air is balanced if there's an ice wall in flatearth, wouldn't the air just fall off, if it's infinite then why isn't all the warm air rushing to exchange with the cold air or even balancing the concentrations, oh well.>It's not like there's a force that attracts things towards things with masses, oh well.did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>>173397>It's not like there's a force that attracts things towards things with masses, oh well.Check you privilege anon. You can be retarded sometimes, but not all the time without being called out.
>>173398>Check your privilegedid you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>Thread hits bump limit
>"We won guys!"
>Op starts new thread
>png
>>173351All of this is nothing but a game.
>thread is still around to this day
God I hate you all so fucking much it's unreal. See you all in hell.
>>173452You want to pick up any of the faggots slack? It's a heavy fucking load of bullshit just left to steam.
No?
I don't blame you, but Flat Earth has no highground.
Did you see them answer any questions? At all?
I didn't.
In the trenches watching the shit pile go higher and higher.
All the so called evidence for Flat Earth using Flat Earth standards for being true, means it's impossible. Can't trust any of them to not be in on maintaining the globe.
Can't trust anyone so how can you trust the math, science or so called evidence brought forth.
Flat Earthers can't. But they do so anyway.
Since nobody can be trusted to not be compromised by such an overwhelming organization why not take a look outside.
Just take a walk, admittedly in this day and age that's pretty dangerous.
When you see something fall it accelerates at ~9.8 meters per second
per secondOn a Flat Earth that means everything is moving faster and faster.
Since the beginning.
As such everything must also be moving at that same speed at the beginning to not fall.
Ah, but since it's just a vector force going 'up' people can push back against the acceleration.
And everyone would be able to tell that accelerating force has changed.
Woops. What if we consider it to just be a static part of reality.
Everything is going at approximately 9.8 meters per second ² going up.
That means if you were to jump you don't fall down because you're part of everything, because you too were going with that static Up force.
Whoops.
Let's say there's a massive list of exceptions that when not acted upon doesn't have the Static Up force applied.
What color is the sky?
As we approach faster and faster speeds light would being hitting at different frequencies.
Let's say you're on a walk, but you look off into the distance with the camera how far away is it?
Then you walk a bit more and check the other side.
I think you'll find some interesting data.
What if just on that walk double checking.
What if instead when on this walk you shine a laser at yourself and walk away from it once securing it.
What should happen? Where would to dot end up after walkimg for a very long way?
What if instead of doing that you made a map of your walk making every meter or aomething.
Then you do a sea search pattern when walking.
What happened to the map?
>>173453I love games.
>>173461>Did you see them answer any questions? At all?>I didn't.Don't worry blind poner, I brought something to make your rounded whereabouts a bit flatter.
This is strange, this thread is not bumping. Why?
And now mysteriously went down in the catalog to page 2.
WTF.
>>173466I also noticed and no other threads were bumped to make it so, so it's strange.
>>173461>There's no proof and we only win all the time.Then why is there a problem with a containment thread?
>>173470>>173461< we only win all the time.Actually, I retracted this statement because I'm not sure what you're saying, my reading comprehension is not good enough. So I apologize but my question stands.
The problem with globers is they keep going around in circles. They do what is called a "pilpul" argument. Instead of adressing the argument when they lost it, they move onto the next topic, as if nothing ever happened. Hitler warned about this exact type of argument tactic, and it comes from rabbinical study of the talmud.
How exactly can you tell that every space theory is a crock of shit? And I mean everything, planets, stars, gases, meteroites, dark matter, dark energy, gravity, etc. You can tell because of this argument tactic they use. The reason the theory of gravity is convincing to many is because its over-arched and reinforced by another theory, rather than being a theory that stands strong by itself.
Go ahead, ask any glober here to give an experiment anyone can preform, that proves the existence of gravity caused by the bending and warping of space-time. once you get to the point where they cant prove it, theyll jump to the pilpul tactic and say something like "well explain this then" or "how does this work then" which moves away from topic.
This happens every single time, without fail. Which is why flat vs globe debates never go anywhere.
After the 2600+ replies in this thread, still we recieve no verification for how curvature is detected and measurement for the 3959 mile radius.
Theyre also going to tell you to "explain the math", which is just a display of their own ignorance on the purpose of mathmatics in physical experiments.
>>173463>I won't solve it I'll have someone else who I never verified solve it.Nah, I'm done you have to do it.
You shit on every piece of evidence by other people by other people so you can't use it either. Good luck.
>>173470>Containment threadWell in the 2650 posts Flat Earth posting has remained decidedly shitty. Any discussion gets lambasted by Flatearthers and nothing is ever resolved.
It's just delay deny and deflect. Again.
And again.
And again.
There is now a multiple threads with delay, deny and deflect kind of shit fuckery.
It's a cancer, every time discussions tried to happen it got shut down by OP and fellow fucktards.
So you could say I'm sick and tired of all of them and deciding to reach out my hand just got it burned.
I don't want that kind of bullshit.
OP desires to remake the whole site in what he decides is best.
So I'm not enthused.
>I just wanted to discuss Flat Earth.Well do it I guess, because it won't really calm down. OP burnt down all his good will, fellow Flat Earthers copied OP and shutdown discussion.
It's like a radioactive wasteland.
>What's your point?Stuff that falls breaks Flat Earth models.
Image what happens when everything is moving at ~9.8 meters per second squared. My point is that is acceleration, everything has to be going faster on some Flat Earth models.
If everything is accelerating its almost like nothing is so we should be in freefall. So it's either something stranger or Flat Earth doesn't work.
Or on some Flat Earth models only some things fall inexplicably. It's a mystery why it happens.
So I move to the next point.
Stuff moving affects the color it is.
The furthest distance you see should always be the same on Flat Earth, it isn't.
The next is a test of straight lines, if you walk far enough the point where the laser light hits is different.
Mapping on Flat Earth should be easy.
On a Flat Earth coast gaurd search patterns are efficient in viewing all directions. Mapping that small irregularities and flaws quickly add up.
>>173475>Mr Slime being like slimeWell just stop jewing you cunt.
>>173476>noooooo having a single flat earth bread thats off the main board is literally remaking the sitelol
also you dont need a laid out model for every physical experiment. maybe learn science?
>>173475>ExperimentI gave multiple. And theres multitudes in this thread you decided to totally ignore and forget, just like a jew debater.
It's right here too
>>173461>I use math wrong so I don't understand how math can prove anything instead of the other way around.Right, I know.
3959 M I L E curve, it's detectable you're just too much of a brainlet to see every piece of evidence in your own evidence about Flat Earth
For fucks sake three thousand nine hundred fifty nine miles is fucking big. You aren't miles big you're feet big.
You never even tried to use an astronomy telescope which has better amplification than a Nikon.
Want proof of the curve, go survey and make a map as seen, from each location. With the multiple maps you have, you'll find they don't quite line up.
>>173478>>173479>I never learned math or science or practicality.You know I made a point and now you're refusing it again. Just as I said you would.
Then you're going to fuck around for a bit and whenever I bring up any math or a test or anything you'll just post more garbage and hide it.
I have 2650 posts of proof of you doing that. You aren't trustworthy or capable.
>3959 M I L E curve, it's detectable you're just too much of a brainlet to see every piece of evidence in your own evidence about Flat Earthhow did you detect it? go over your steps in your experiment
>>173481physics explains things, mathmatics describes things. they arent the same thing which was my main point.
anyways if you can go over your steps like previous post failed to do, thatd be nice
I'm sure after 3 years of dancing around in his purple codpiece OP is gonna entertain an honest and productive discussion. Please, continue contributing to every thread he makes. This site's future depends on how much attention we give the faceboomer.
>>173482Take a picture of the horizon using your Nikon. I would also recommend bringing a straight edge with or part of the location. There's your curve.
Not obvious enough?
Squish the sides bringing them closer and closer. You'll see it.
>>173483I know he will do so. So I'm making yet another stand and proof.
Because after this I'm done feeding that fuck.
>>173484>Because after this I'm done feeding that fuck.Good.
Then would you mind to remove the anchor to this thread and let it be free to make it bump again?
After all this topic was never of your liking and it is pointless to interfere on its development.
>>173485>Hur I don't know how image boards workGo neck yourself cunt.
>>173486/vx/ has not bump limits and anchoring this thread is sabotage. What about that? Hah?
You're a fucking retard know nothing.
>>173475>How exactly can you tell that every space theory is a crock of shit? And I mean everything, planets, stars, gases, meteroites, dark matter, dark energy, gravity, etc. You can tell because of this argument tactic they use. The reason the theory of gravity is convincing to many is because its over-arched and reinforced by another theory, rather than being a theory that stands strong by itself.This might actually be the most pants-on-head retarded thing I've all year.
Also, lol at this thread finally hitting bump limit
>>173484>Squish the sides bringing them closer and closerAHAHAHAHA the most retarded glober cope ever
For my part, I'm still waiting on an answer to the extremely simple question I asked: if a massive centuries-spanning conspiracy to conceal the true shape of the earth from the average person did in fact exist, who created it and to what purpose? Setting aside even the most basic questions of how such a complex conspiracy could be managed, who benefits from this effort and how? I never got a real answer. This anon
>>173266 >>173270 told me to call 1-900-MIX-A-LOT. Meanwhile this anon
>>173287 just spouted a bunch of sketchy pseudo-religious gibberish about the devil trying to feed on negative energy, which not only fails to answer the original question but actually raises further questions.
Flat earth is fake and gay. Nothing left to do with this thread but give it a casual salute as it slides its way to the bottom of the catalog, like a giant glob of cum sliding from OP's forehead to his chin.
>>173493>>173493"why the lie" is such a retarded fucking question. why do they lie about anything retard. to gain control over others. there are truths about flat earth that have profound impacts on human perspective, your pea brain just cant see it because you never stepped over to the other side. yes, the actual conditions and workings of the realm you live in matter, thats what we believe. if you disagree fine, just stop being a jewish shill cunt
>>173498>just stop being a jewish shill cuntThat's just a bunch of buzzwords strung together. He's just disagreeing.
What control does "flat earth don't real" give over anyone?
If anything it would cost more money to fake more efficient flights and sea paths, fake orbital satellite programs, fake probes, fake satellite technology in general, fake the math behind ICBMs...and all it would take is one physicist providing a decent model that stands on its own.
So, be more precise: why the lie? What specific advantage do !!They!! get by faking a globe earth?
>>173500>da goberment would never waste moneywut lol
>>173502It's not the government, it's every government, every corporation, every scientific study, every entrepreneurial venture (see, Elon), et cetera. It's not just a little money, it's a massive financial incentive to fly the most efficiently, make ballistic weapons work at longer ranges...my point isn't that America wouldn't waste money, it's that the amount of waste is massive in a flat earth model, and yet we don't see that. At least, not in that field.
Jannie, remove the anchor. Let this thread float as is meant to be.
>>173506You stupid bastard, you hit bump limit. Your thread's been up for
THREE GODDAMN YEARS.
>>173506Gonna counter-vote against anything this nigger asks for
>>173507Irrelevant. /vx/ has not bump limits and has not relationship whatsoever to time.
Free the bread.
>>173509Counter-vote for OP to eat a bag of dicks
>>173510Get a trip around the flat plane anon. May the freemasons pay you more.
>>173506There is no anchor. Board-wide bump limit has been set to 2200.
I literally cannot click “reply” to your posts while in moderator mode without the thread crashing on my phone.
>>173512>without the thread crashing on my phone.Sorry to read that. Did you try to load the last @50 replays? It works every time without any issues.
>>173513It would explain why you keep making redundant arguments and posting things that have already been posted.
>>173498>"why the lie" is such a retarded fucking questionIt's not a retarded question, it's a perfectly valid one that you refuse to answer, most likely because you can't. The "why" of any big project is important, in fact it's probably more important than the "how". It might be technically possible to dig a hole from America to China
well, I guess in your version of reality it wouldn't be, but bear with me for a moment, but it would be an extremely expensive and time-consuming project. Even supposing any one party had the resources required, I think most reasonable people would concede that there are easier ways to get to China.
>why do they lie about anything retard. to gain control over others.Case in point. If what you're claiming is true, then we're not just talking about simple willful deception of the masses by authorities. We're talking about a massive globe-spanning
excuse me, table-spanning conspiracy stretching back centuries. Entire disciplines of science have been faked. Entire industries based on that body of scientific knowledge have been faked. Everyone from ancient Greek astronomers to Columbus and Vespucci to Jules Verne
he wrote "Around the World in 80 Days," after all to Neil Armstrong and Elon Musk would had to have been in on it, and also willing to blatantly lie to all of humanity about it.
It would also require the conspirators to maintain complete and total control over the independent actions of anyone
not involved in the conspiracy, for literally thousands of years. I mean, if some nerd with a sailboat decided he wanted to circumnavigate the earth, only to end up bumping into the sky like the goddamn Truman Show, wouldn't that blow the lid off of the whole thing?
I think that, when you really consider the scope and magnitude of human effort that would be required for what you're proposing to actually be true, "y tho?" is a pretty fucking reasonable question to ask. Considerably more important than "hurr durr how do you prove curvature tho?!?111!?". Doubly so if "they want to le control le people because they are le evil" is the best answer you can come up with. There are easier goddamn ways to get to China.
Also, who are "they," anyway? Which of the usual boogeymen are we talking about here? Jews? Freemasons? Lizard people from outer space? Oh wait; outer space isn't real, so scratch that last one. Still though, we haven't identified an actual guilty party for this whole schizo clusterfuck. Are we still talking about Satan? Is he using "they/them" pronouns now? Wouldn't put it past him, that one's a slippery fucker.
>yes, the actual conditions and workings of the realm you live in matter, thats what we believe. if you disagree fine, just stop being a jewish shill cuntYes, they do matter. That is why hundreds of thousands of people over the centuries have devoted time and energy into studying these things and working them out, resulting in the vast body of scientific knowledge that you feel justified in dismissing with a few half-assed memes and some troll physics. This isn't a matter of me disagreeing with you, this is a matter of you disagreeing with literally everyone who isn't retarded.
>>173512>There is no anchor. Board-wide bump limit has been set to 2200.Thank you for let me know.
Flat Earth #2 - Reborn
INCOMING SOON
>>173516What do you even have left to say that hasn't already been said?
>>173517Chillax poner, you will have your chance, again, to shill the globe as much as you like.
>>173518Do you have any original content, or are you just trying to eternally-bump a general?
>>173516Or you could, you know, not do that. This thread isn't breaking any rules and you're free to do what you want, but sometimes it's better to just accept that some hills just aren't worth dying on.
Also, this thread is still in the catalog. Posting a new one before it falls off would technically be in violation of the "no duplicate threads" rule.
>>173512That is such a an absurdly high bump limit.
It should be 1000 at most.
>>173519The curve has not been found yet, right?
>>173522>Implying things are the same as they were 3 years agoMake s new thread when there's a major relevant happening.
>>173520I want the thread at the top. If it is not bumping nopony will know there is activity, this is pretty obvious.
>>173525This is texbook FlatEarthphobia, WOW.
Why such a terror to a silly bread?
>>173524>I want the thread at the top.And I want a blowjob from Twilight Sparkle. Doesn't mean it's actually going to happen. If people want to post in this thread, it's in the catalog, hence people still posting even though it's not bumping anymore. If you post a new thread while this one is still in the catalog, it will be deleted. Consider this your warning.
>>173526>-phobiaYou are a nigger.
>>173528>If you post a new thread while this one is still in the catalog, it will be deleted. Consider this your warning.Fine. Then what about /sp/?
>>173530No. This is your thread for talking about this schizo flat earth nonsense. All discussion of this subject will be contained here. You already have two containment threads on /sp/, you don't need another one.
>173530
>
It's impossible to reason with this nigger.
>>173532>reasonNah, it is just plain bounding and gagging.
>>173524You already have a very loyal set of flies posting to this garbage pile of a thread. What more do you want?
>>173535~Oh nooooo....! No free speech to be had on /mlpol/. Time to look for greener pastures.
Perhaps Facebook would be more to your liking.
>>173536>What more do you want?The Flat Earth bumping as it should. Not more, not less. I'm not asking much, just to be allowed to shitpost in my designated containment thread without being torpedoed by the management.
>>173539You're not being torpedoed, you're just being asked to follow the basic rules of the site. If you want to insist on being a cunt about this we can go down that road, but you probably won't like where it ends up.
>>173505>every corporation, every scientific study, every entrepreneurial venture (see, Elon), et ceterablatantly false lie. why would you make this up?
>>173515why are you asking me why all those figures in the past and present can never demonstrate how they verified curvature? everything they show us is fake, using CGI, photo manipulation, or greenscreen pools inside studios.
VERY GOOD QUESTION ON WHY THEY WOULD JUST RANDOMLY SAY ALL THIS SHIT, AND THEN ITS GETS THROWN INTO THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CIRRUCULUM.
WHY. WOULD. THEY. DO. THAT?
>>173542>never demonstrate how they verified curvatureAristotle didn't have greenscreen pools (what do you mean pools?), photo manipulation, CGI, or....photos. He had raw math and shadow measurements with which he extrapolated a close estimate of the volume of the earth.
>blatantly false lieIt's literally the only way that the globe earth model could be sustained -- if absolutely no flights followed the flat map, or any spacefaring craft or ballistic weapon. Because if the flat earth model were true, those who utilized it would be able to launch missiles faster, fly jets faster, move satellites faster, and get the advantage in any conflict or race. And yet...we don't see that. We see pilots flying routes in a specific route, as though the earth were a globe.
>>173542>why are you asking me why all those figures in the past and present can never demonstrate how they verified curvature?Are you high, or just a bad typist? I'm not asking anything even remotely close to that. I'm asking who you think organized this vast conspiracy you're claiming exists, and what, if anything, they hoped to gain from it. Still waiting on an answer, btw.
>everything they show us is fake, using CGI, photo manipulation, or greenscreen pools inside studios. That's a pretty bold claim to make. Have any proof?
>WHY. WOULD. THEY. DO. THAT?That's literally what I'm asking you. Also, I repeat my earlier question: who exactly are "they?"
>>173542>VERY GOOD QUESTION ON WHY THEY WOULD JUST RANDOMLY SAY ALL THIS SHIT, AND THEN ITS GETS THROWN INTO THE PUBLIC EDUCATION CIRRUCULUM.Also, this is not a sentence, nor is it the proper spelling of the word "curriculum." Those little red squiggly lines under the words you type indicate spelling errors, you should pay more attention to them.
>>173543using sticks and shadow IS NOT verification of curvature or valid measurement. its not aristotle youre referring to goof, its eratosthenes who first made this dumb idea up
>>173544Im asking YOU why they would say all this shit without being able to verify it. they never brought forth falsifiablity to begin with.
>I'm not asking anything even remotely close to that.okay tell me why I should care? thats why I asked you the thing I asked you specifically. youre being psychoanalytic like a jew, and questioning my stance against a positive claim thats never been verified. "why would they fake it all" is not the question to be asked, its "why have they never verified shit to us but still make these claims"
>>173548>youre being psychoanalytic like a jewYou use "Jew" like a meaningless buzzword, as if that behavior is somehow exclusive to them. People do that shit on the internet all of the time.
Also, Psychoanalysis isn't real. It's pseudoscience, and modern psychology has since moved passed it.
>questioning my stance against a positive claim thats never been verifiedYou are making very many positive claims about a supposed global conspiracy to convince people that the earth is round.
>why have they never verified shit to us but still make these claims"When they verify it with actual photos and math, you say they are fake.
What would even count as verification to you?
>>173466>>173516>>173512>>173520>>173528Here's who I see it:
<Mysteriously, this thread fell off to page two around 2.6k posts. <The bump limit is apparently set at 2200 or was this a recent change? <Perhaps that could explain why the thread dropped off past threads that hadn't been bumped at the time.<This could obviously just be a technical thing but it's just a bit weird and why I included it.<Admin Lotus said, he can't click reply (while mod mode on) without his phone crashing.<The thread is therefore too big and needs a new one.>Posting a new one before it falls off would technically be in violation of the "no duplicate threads" rule.<I disagree.<GG posted, in that case, duplicates of his threads back when he was reviewing F:E. <Now he's reviewing a longer work, obviously you can't reasonably force him to post in his thread past 700 posts until it drops off the catalog. <I would also say that Occupied Equestria threads also falls into this category of being duplicates of one another.>If you post a new thread while this one is still in the catalog, it will be deleted.<This board has very low activity. This will take forever. I don't believe you don't know this.Anyway, I don't really see the problem. It's been here for years, just let OP post a new thread and then it can sit here for years too. Through this period he hasn't posted his ideas outside of his containment thread, as far as I'm aware. Like look at the humor thread's Op that's on the board right now, it literally makes fun of his position but you can't find him replying to it to start anything.
>>173551>MysteriouslyI will retract that mysteriously. I honestly don't know and I sorry for accusing anyone. I kinda just copied the wording of the previous post that I replied to in the post.
>>173551>GG made new threadThere's nothing worth talking about in Flat Earth. No big new thing that absolutely needs to be talked about.
Every time in GG'ss it's a new topic fully exposed or exhausted and it's not on /vx/ which is much shorter.
OP and cohorts didn't even answer anything.
You never answered.
There's never an answer.
Ever.
Why are you even on this stupid bastard's side?
He shoveled shit and dances around every point.
>173526>This is texbook FlatEarthphobia, WOW.He lies constantly.
>I don't really see the problem.Really?
Have you even read these past thousand posts?
Good God man.
You know what happened next?
He made a new thread anyway!
It's been deleted, but for fucks sake dude.
Nobody gets any answers every time someone says post a curve and someone does so or there's fucking math it's dismissed on insane nonsensical grounds or never talked about again.
Every fucking time.
>I would appreciate not using such harsh language.Well there's nobody answering anything except retarded images and twitches hour long rambles that fuck up the FlatEarth position or just says "hehe globbers dum".
>>173553>You never answered.I did answer.
Besides, the idea that whoever gets last word wins doesn't make any sense.
>Really?There's no problem with having a containment thread for this question.
>There's nothing worth talking about in Flat Earth. No big new thing that absolutely needs to be talked about.Never stopped threads before nor are you unbiased judge for this.
>Why are you even on this stupid bastard's side?I'm not really on anyone's side. I simply think the flat earth model is convincing and I find no argument so far as I lurked that really convinced my otherwise, but obviously it could be wrong, which I'm very open for. That people generate drama about this has nothing to do with me.
>>173556>I simply think the flat earth model is convincingWhat model? Any model that a flat earther provides either contradicts itself or has to introduce new ideas to compensate for its inconsistencies. Like if gravity is just an upward force, as another anon said, then it would have to always be accelerating in order for objects to accelerate downward. If the flat earth map people associate with it is to be believed, then people on opposite ends of the outer ring are all seeing the southern cross from completely different areas in other directions. And then the questions of what are north and south come up. On the map with the north pole as the center, this means that there is no east or west, north is just an inward direction, and south is literally just "head towards the nearest point on the ice wall" (don't get me started on the ice wall argument, my head hurts already).
If OP has any long term memory he might remember when I confronted him about the southern cross hundreds of posts ago.
>>173551Moderating a site like this tends to be a balancing act between preserving free speech for all users
which includes idiots with nothing especially valuable to say while still maintaining a high-quality discussion environment. Rules on the site exist for the purpose of maintaining that quality. To that effect, how stringently a given rule is enforced will depend on the situation and the general attitude of the site's userbase, as well as the overall effect any mod action would have on the quality of the site as a whole. In other words, the interpretation of the rules is subordinate to their purpose.
For instance, the No Generals rule was put in place originally because generals were a huge problem on 4chan at the time the site was founded, but since this site didn't really have the same problem, we didn't feel the need to strictly enforce this rule for most of the site's history. The Syria General and Anonfilly threads technically count as generals, but those threads are well-loved by the community and have been an integral part of board culture for some time. To my knowledge nobody has ever complained about either of them.
Eventually, though, the "random news" thread and a couple others turned into massive generals which were being constantly bumped with low-effort content and no discussion, mostly by one user. This meant that every time someone visited the site, it was usually the same couple of low-quality, general-topic threads at the top of the page. This led to multiple complaints, which were deemed valid, because essentially this one user was filling the board with the kind of low-quality high-volume posting that people come here from 4chan to get away from. So, in this case, the no generals rule was enforced for these threads, while other threads like Anonfilly and /sg/, which arguably are generals, were left alone.
>GG posted, in that case, duplicates of his threads back when he was reviewing F:E.The Glim Glam threads are each dedicated to a review of a single story, so each thread is technically its own topic. The FoE review spilled into multiple threads because of the 700 post limit on the main board + the length of the story + Nigel's endless shitposting taking up space. It was an ongoing topic that was consistently producing new content, and the duration of the thread was determined by the amount of time needed to review the entire story. As soon as the story ended, there were no more GG FoE threads; the next Glim Glam thread was about a new story. In other words, every Glim Glam thread has a self-contained topic, and the lifespan of the threads is determined by how long it takes to exhaust discussion of that topic.
This thread is different. For one, it's gone on for three years, for almost 3,000 posts, without any apparent conclusion being reached. How many more threads of the same length would it take to bring the discussion to a close? The problem with this thread is that it's not a discussion that's going to end, it's just going to go on the way it's been going in perpetuity forever. Since the OP of this thread is the same person who was responsible for a large portion of the high-volume low-quality posting I mentioned earlier, it's likely that he sees the endless cyclical nature of this thread as a feature and not a bug.
Basically, what OP wants is for this thread to be continuously bumped to the top of the overboard so it's constantly visible, the same way he wanted visibility for his other low-quality junk threads. The problem with this is that what makes him happy tends to piss everyone else off.
So, in effect, we're being asked to piss off the entire mlpol community
or at least most of it in order to accommodate the whims of one obnoxious schizo. To this request, we say "neigh." If people want to discuss flat earth, they are free to do so in this thread until it expires. Meanwhile, the rest of the community gets a break from seeing it constantly occupying the top spot on the overboard. Pretty much a win-win for all parties involved.
When I first encountered the idea of “flat earth” a decade or so ago, I was convinced that it was a troll created to troll Reddit atheists, and generally the kind of people who always want to believe that they are smarter than someone else and will argue with anything. So when this thread appeared three years ago, my opinion was that people who tried to argue against flat earth should know better than to think they were going to have a sincere discussion on a scientific question, and they should just not reply to the thread and not engage in argument. And that’s exactly why I have not been a part of this thread for the past three years - because I don’t expect a real conversation.
After three years, I’ve been basically proven correct that this is nothing but a troll topic. Only meme images are posted, questions challenging the theory are ignored, and in every way the thread behaves as a bait or troll thread. OP even refers to his activity in this thread as “shitposting.” Where I was wrong was in believing that users would eventually learn not to reply to bait. They have not. This thread is very often top of the overboard and crowds the homepage, and always with very bad, unproductive content of people raging.
We have rules against bait threads and generally delete them on sight. This thread has been treated leniently because it’s posted by a regular user, and maybe, just maybe, the OP is sincere in his belief and doesn’t intend to create a terrible thread. But the reality is that this thread is identical in all practical respects to a bait thread. Given that, the best solution is to just keep discussion here in a thread that will not bump. Maybe if things changed and the quality of discussion were raised to be higher than simple bait, then a new thread would be warranted. But I don’t think that is ever going to happen.
>>173549pilpul is a jewish tactic, thats where it originates. in you stating that "everyone on the internet does it" doesnt make it non-jewish behavior. its not a buzzterm, its a discription of a behavior thats originally jewish. and youre partaking in it
physchoanalysis is a noun. psychoanalytic is a verb. maybe learn english?
A poisitive claim about a conspiracy is actually the conclusion thats arrived at when they cant support all the positive claims they make. do you know the meaning of 'conspiracy"? i means cover-up. how do you cover up? by lying. have you ever heard of deductive reasoning?
what the fuck else would you call it if not a conspiracy then? theyre lying because as I stated before, their cartoon theories have never been verified. why would you trust any of it?
>>173570>do you know the meaning of 'conspiracy"? i means cover-up.it literally doesn't though
>>173569>We have rules against bait threads and generally delete them on sight. This thread has been treated leniently because it’s posted by a regular user, and maybe, just maybe, the OP is sincere in his belief and doesn’t intend to create a terrible thread. But the reality is that this thread is identical in all practical respects to a bait thread. Given that, the best solution is to just keep discussion here in a thread that will not bump. Maybe if things changed and the quality of discussion were raised to be higher than simple bait, then a new thread would be warranted. But I don’t think that is ever going to happen.It is fine. You are the Admin and have the the final say.
On my end, I see the issue from a very different stand point and I pay more attention to actions than words. I stand for the plane and my refusal to entertain shills under no circumstance may be understood as lack of proof, all of which has been posted and in great quantities. Also I'm not blind to the /mlpol/'s move to mirror ZOG's policies to stonewall emerging narratives and inconvenient truths online, such as the oxymoron: "Freedom of Speech is Not Freedom of Reach".
Not my intention to debate or even to challenge your decision as I see it as a "fait accompli" and therefore my intention is no longer participate in a controlled opposition playground. On my part, it was a good ride and I truly enjoyed it
Cheers.
>Flearther still complaining that he can't make a clone thread with no new content
Shut up, nigger. Everyone can still see your shitty thread on the main board.
>>173597You want to fuck the ponies from my little pony? What is wrong with you?
>>173571>subversive has no connotation to the term "cover-up"youre being ridiculous. you know words exist because they are descriptive, not prescriptive? being hung up on definitions doesnt help anyone
>>173599>you know words exist because they are descriptive, not prescriptive?No. English is a prescriptive language. English has grammatical rules and standards, despite your disregard for them. Prescriptive linguistics is the only thing that prevents English from devolving into ebonics.
>>173598>You want to fuck the ponies from my little ponyWhere do you think you are?
>>173596>/mlpol/'s move to mirror ZOG's policies to stonewall emerging narratives and inconvenient truths online, such as the oxymoron: "Freedom of Speech is Not Freedom of Reach".What utter bullshit. Your presence is only tolerated because of this site's commitment to freedom of speech.
>my intention is no longer participate in a controlled opposition playground. On my part, it was a good ride and I truly enjoyed itDon't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.
Cheers.
>>173570>in you stating that "everyone on the internet does it" doesnt make it non-jewish behaviorIt's normal behavior on chansites, and has been since the beginning of 4chan.
>its not a buzzterm, its a discription of a behavior thats originally jewishYou're using it like a buzzword.
>physchoanalysis is a noun. psychoanalytic is a verb. maybe learn english?>learn englishAsk me that again when you learn to type a proper sentence.
Your grammar is terrible, you mispel words, and you don't even capitalize your sentences. You type like a nigger. It's annoying as hell.
>A poisitive claim about a conspiracy is actually the conclusion thats arrived atA positive claim is a positive claim.
>theories have never been verifiedThey have been verified countless times. You just dismiss all of them as fake. Nothing would count as verification to you.
>>173603its not a positive claim, its a conclusion based on invalid positive claim on the globe. the globe hasnt backed its positive claims yet.
I make zero positive claim except that theres no detectable curvature and no verifiable measurement, which you continue to keep ignoring and will do so everytime you reply to my posts
>They have been verified countless times. You just dismiss all of them as fake. Nothing would count as verification to you.can you verify them or not? go over your methods. thats all weve been asking. it hasnt been done a single time in this thread. please show me the post where its been done, ive read all of them already
>>173607>its not a positive claimIt is.
>its a conclusion based on That's not mutually exclusive with being a positive claim.
>I make zero positive claimEarlier you claimed that thousands of airline flight paths didn't exist and that the tens of thousands of people who took them were paid actors. That's a claim, and it is positive (says X happened).
>no verifiable measurementBy your ridiculous John Locke tier standards of refusing to believe anything that you do not see with your naked eyes (unless of course it supports your narrative) in spite of no evidence of fabrication.
>which you continue to keep ignoringI see them. I just disagree.
>can you verify them or not?Which thing do you want verified? There are so many.
>>173608>Earlier you claimed that thousands of airline flight paths didn't exist and that the tens of thousands of people who took them were paid actors. That's a claim, and it is positive (says X happened).no i didnt, you just made that up. i said flight paths make no sense on a globe. also there are pilots who are flat earthers, but ofc i have to explain that to an ignoramus
what do you want me to conclude other than that its a conspiracy? you refuse to answer the question
>By your ridiculous John Locke tier standards of refusing to believe anything that you do not see with your naked eyes (unless of course it supports your narrative) in spite of no evidence of fabrication.flat earth evidence requires the naked eye, globe evidence requires believing in unfalsifiable claims
>Which thing do you want verified? There are so many.unfortunately there is zero otherwise you wouldnt be doing this song and dance about it, and show me
>173609
>you wouldnt be doing this song and dance about it
I think I'll just stop then. I'm tired of dancing with you.
>>173599>guy who thinks the earth is a giant diorama says I'm being ridiculous
>>173596>my refusal to entertain shills under no circumstance may be understood as lack of proof, all of which has been posted and in great quantities.>I'm not blind to the /mlpol/'s move to mirror ZOG's policies to stonewall emerging narratives and inconvenient truths online, such as the oxymoron: "Freedom of Speech is Not Freedom of Reach".See, this kind of attitude is part of why this thread has turned into an endless cyclical argument with no purpose, and why staff is no longer inclined to take your complaints seriously. You've basically made up your mind about what's true, and anyone who disagrees or presents another point of view is automatically a shill or ZOG. You're willing to debate people, but only within a very narrow framework whose boundaries you get to define.
As I recall, you took the same bull-headed attitude when everyone was asking you to please stop dumping facebook memes all over the site. You're very similar to Nigel in this regard: you're either unable or unwilling to understand why your posting style rubs other people the wrong way, and whenever you're criticized you immediately spin it into some kind of persecution complex. Maybe it's an autistic thing, idk.
In any event, your interpretation of this situation is way off. There are no "shills" in this thread, just anons who are mocking you because you keep making outrageous claims that you can't back up. There is no attempt on the part of management to "stonewall" you either. If we really wanted to quash discussion of the "inconvenient truths" you think you're dropping, we would have done it three years and 2700 posts ago. For the last three years, you've had a platform from which to spread your ideas. You couldn't make your case effectively, and you've been shouted down by the crowd. That's all that's happening here. You might not like it, but this is how free speech works.
I'll tell you the same thing I told Nigel the last time he threw one of his trademark hissy fits: if you want to keep making an ass of yourself all over the site you're free to do so. However, you're still bound by the same rules that everyone else is; we're not just going to let you endlessly shit everything up with impunity. /mlpol/ is not your private blog. If anons don't like the content you post, you're going to get mocked and shouted down. If you double down, you're just going to get mocked and shouted down even harder, it's just part of imageboard culture. I hope at least some of this gets through to you.
I did not like how the moderation team handled this. This has created a rift between me and them. A lot of my faith in their judgement has tanked by this.
I have been gone from the site for like a month now due to being busy with irl stuff but also because of this. Every time I got the irk to lurk here, I remembered this and so the irk ceased. Obviously, inb4: You don't contribute to the site anyway so who cares if you leave and so on. Regardless, I don't believe in leaving or staying and such. I can do either whenever I feel like it and change that as well. But I did feel like I didn't belong here anymore, or something to that effect. Maybe it's unhealthy to make connections in these situations but would be true for irl relationship as, I think, so whatever.
I'm planning to write a post with everything I disagreed with this decision and post it here. I'm not certain it will reach the mods but I'll try.
That will take a while though due having other pressing matters to attend to.
>>174146I'm sorry you feel that way about it, and you're certainly welcome to air any grievances you might have. Same goes for everyone else. However, I stand by the decision. Boomer Anon is angry because he no longer gets to enjoy whatever dopamine high he gets from seeing his junk threads endlessly bumped to the top of the overboard, and in protest he appears to have fucked off into the aether for now. I can't say that I miss him. However, he's not banned, and neither is his ridiculous thread. He is free to return if he likes; all we ask is that he behave himself. The same goes for you if you decide to leave, it's not a question of who contributes what or to what degree. I like your posts and I don't particularly want you to leave, and I don't get the impression anyone else does either, but you are of course free to do as you please.
While I've made no attempt to conceal my personal disdain for the topic of this thread, discussion of this subject is not banned and the thread is still here if people want to continue arguing about it, so I don't think staff is in the wrong here. We made the decision to not allow a second thread for this subject because:
1) this one is almost 3,000 fucking posts long
2) very little serious discussion has been going on in here; it's mostly a no-u loop at this point
3) people have complained about this thread being constantly bumped
in fact I'm fairly certain this thread is the reason people have requested on /qa/ that we lower the bump limits4) the problems with this thread are more related to boomer anon's stubbornness and egocentricity than to anything having to do with whether or not the earth is flat
5) one thread for this topic is plenty
If people want to continue the debate over this subject they are free to do so, but I feel I can safely speak for the majority of users when I say that we all could use a break from seeing it endlessly bumped to the top of the overboard.
>>174149>2) very little serious discussion has been going on in here; it's mostly a no-u loop at this pointMore importantly, when he was asked if he had anything new to add for a new thread (
>>173517 >>173519) he couldn't even produce anything that would warrant such a new thread. He even openly admitted that he just wanted a thread to bump into perpetuity (
>>173524).
Realistically, he exhausted all of his novel arguments/sources/content to post ~2-3 years ago, and had long since resorted to bait posting to get engagement with redundant arguments that had already been discussed earlier in the thread. Sometimes he even posted redundant images and resized memes, because he had nothing new to post.
This kind of posting is the actual reason why we don't have generals in /mlpol/. Generalfags post bait to get engagement and bump their threads without content forever, because they insist on seeing the topic they like at the top of the catalog, even when there's nothing new to say.
>the reason people have requested on /qa/ that we lower the bump limitsThis is only one of the reasons for that. Bump limits exist for a reason, and having reasonably sized bump limits maintains the health of a board in the same way that cells in the human body have auto-kill sequences once they've divided enough times: to prevent cancer.
>>173598Pretty sure this was Boomer's last post on the site, btw. It goes to show how little respect he actually had for this community.
He never posted ponies in any context other than that stupid reaction image folder he downloaded from somewhere.
>>174146This again? Still, I want to hear how we got this wrong and if it will amount to anything more than an argument that you can't stop anyone from posting, period. If that if your stance, we have tried that for years at this point. I actively attempted to work with the guy with discussion after discussion. I even broke down my problems with him.
>>>/qa/8074 →Yet, he ignored me time and time again.
>>>/qa/8115 →He actively seeking out the worst possible means forward and antagonizing anyone that sought to criticize him.
>>>/qa/8130 →>>>/qa/8135 →He plays the victim directly after violating rules I tell him not to violate mere minutes after I clarify the rules to him.
>>>/qa/8132 →>>>/qa/8141 →>>>/qa/8149 →>>>/qa/8154 →>>>/qa/8155 →And this continued for months...
>>>/qa/8351 →>>>/qa/8355 →>>>/qa/8357 →>>>/qa/8358 →>>>/qa/8363 →>>>/qa/8367 →>>>/qa/8379 →>>>/qa/8380 →>>>/qa/8381 →>>>/qa/8382 →>>>/qa/8383 →>>>/qa/8384 →>>>/qa/8387 →>>>/qa/8392 →>>>/qa/8393 →>>>/qa/8394 →>>>/qa/8395 →>>>/qa/8397 →and months...
>>>/qa/8726 →>>>/qa/8727 →>>>/qa/8728 →>>>/qa/8729 →I have tried being nice, offering suggestions, offering feedback, offering solutions, offering compromises, and doing short bans to get the message across... nothing worked. If this decision is a problem, I fail to see any other way to go forward other than just continue to put up with him and we can't take any action against him no matter what. I seriously fail to understand what you could be offended over to such a degree that you are getting Vietnam flashes every time you visit the site. I don't mean to be terribly rude, but it is just that ridiculous to me. I hope you can clarify what the issue is.
>>174153>all those citationsI feel sorry that you went through all that work to prove the obvious truth that boomer is a massive fucking faggot.
>>174155Kek. It is better to show what happened than to simply say to trust that we did try to work it out. The process of finding these posts is worth the trouble to help solve any issues. Plus, it is fun to go back through and see just how angry he gets when being told to post better.
>>174156>just how angry he gets when being told to post betterHonestly, this was probably the single most irritating thing about him: the fucking persecution complex.
This site was perfectly fine before he arrived. Once he came and started shitting up the place, Anons told him to fuck off like is normal on any chansite. And then he had the audacity to play the victim, like he was being persecuted/oppressed over normal reactions to his asinine behavior and inability to follow basic rules/etiquette. He acted like he was the most important person on this board, and he even called people who had been here for years before him "shills", "newfags" or "glowies". He had no respect for this site, or anyone who used it. He just treated it as his designated shitting street because it was slow enough that he could feel like he was king of the trash pile if he posted his sewage in such volume; and if you dared call him out for it he would whine about it like a fucking child and say it's actually all the other active users who were abusing him.
>>174146What were we supposed to do?
The thread was at the time a dumpster fire. Boomer would make some claim, someone would respond to it, Boomer would reply to that response with a complete non-response, and very many people got angry. It became a cesspool of drama and flames that would dominate the home page and add up to very many non-productive posts every day. While Boomer had maybe one or two supporters, there were far more who were fed up with his behavior on the site in general and this thread in particular. They complained here in the thread, on /qa/, and on the Teatime server.
The bump limit on /vx/, which was set to an arbitrarily high number, was especially a concern. Some user started just spamming the thread, hoping to trigger the bump limit. The spam was deleted
probably. I don’t recall and a reasonable
ish bump limit was set on /vx/ to stop it from happening again. It was apparent if nothing was done that users would start breaking rules to try to stop the thread from filling up the overboard, and likely they’d eventually just leave. Everyone was tired of the drama by this point, except Boomer and I guess you.
I was tired of the flat-earth drama filling up the home page constantly.
So what were we supposed to do? The main problem with the flat earth thread was that people would make arguments against flat-earth that they thought were cogent, and that they certainly put a lot of effort into, and Boomer would just dismiss these arguments, which made him seem insincere, or at least completely incompetent. So we tried to improve his posting. For a year. It didn’t work. Boomer himself even refered to his flat earth thread as “shitposting.” No. That’s not what this thread is. This thread is presented as a venue to take the concept of flat earth seriously. Not
shit posting.
It would have been best, I thought, if people would just stop replying. They couldn’t, because the thing kept getting bumped on the overboard and shoved in their faces. When the thread stopped bumping, people slowly stopped replying to the flame bait.
Many people - and
most of the moderation staff - thought that Boomer should just be banned. I thought that was heavy handed and incorrect, as Boomer
seemed to be in good faith.
So I did the best thing that could be done. Boomer is free to post whatever he wants in the thread, and other users are free to reply to it (within the rules). But the arbitrarily high bump limit of /vx/ was not coming back, and no new thread would be made.
Again, pray tell,
what were we supposed to do?
>>174146Hi fren.
I understand your frustration but a sanity must prevail. What we have here is a bunch of snowflakes who cannot tolerate what they see as uncivil, rude, non-constructive, blah blah blah. Nothing can be done about it as those charges are just a way to intellectualize their "feelings', I mean, it is not actually my shitposting what bothers them the most, but my persona; in other words, it is personal. So, let them be, it is their choice.
Fucking hell, the nigger is still here.
>174161
>snowflakes who cannot tolerate what they see as uncivil, rude, non-constructive, blah blah blah.
If you act like a nigger, people are going to call you out for it. They'd do the same on any other chansite, but if course you wouldn't know that.
> I mean, it is not actually my shitposting what bothers them the most, but my persona
Again with the persecution complex.
There's are no "personas" here you stupid namefag. This is an anonymous board: if not for your recurring behavior and obnoxious posting style, nobody would know it's you. You would be completely anonymous and have no reputation if you behaved differently, so it is in fact your shitposting.
>So, let them be
Good. Fuck off back where you came them.
>>174146Glad to hear you're okay, quite a few people have been dropping out of touch.
>174161>a sanity>uncivil, rude, non-constructive, blah blah blah.>intellectualize their "feelings', >it is not actually my shitposting what bothers them>my persona>personaI mean to have the capability of understanding that you're acting like a real nigger,
disregarding all rules,
refusing education,
being offended that others have a problem with that,
demanding gibs me dats,
demanding showing off,
garbage graffiti trying to mark territory,
I dindu nuffin.
Truely you've shown a nigga moment.
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid your condition is terminal seek God. Only He can help you now.
hi guise, wat's goin on in this th
>174161
>splatter the site with low quality shitposting
>throw a massive tantrum when called out on it
>start claiming persecution and bullying when the entire site turns against you
>repeat cycle until driven off the site
>continue lurking in case anyone talks about you
Congratulations, you are officially the new Nigel.
>>174146You are dead fucking wrong. (They) should've banned him, amongst a dozen other shitniggers, from the ghetto-go, when the complaints started piling up.
>>174158All of you cucked out, as per usual. Which is perfect knowing that PRECISE SAME CUCKING OUT happened when the (((Gloryhole))) 1/4 kikegoy, the 4cuckoid Anun, the LITERALIST AUTHORITARIAN-COMMIE TANKIE BUTTBRUTHERZ, sockbrates, Niggel, and that insufferable half-kike, half-nigger, all UN lover from June of last year.
All of them had abso-fucking-lutely NOTHING in the means of intellectual dialogue or dialect to share, instead spouting zuckthecuckerboierg fakebawk memes, long kvetching rants from (((Mao))), (((Stalin))), and that boigoitoi (((Nietzsche))). OH GEE, I WONDER WHY PEOPLE HAVE LEARNED TO HATE THE (((MODS))) HERE WHEN THEY DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GET RID OF ACTUAL CANCER. Instead, (YOU) cry about (((hurrmurrdurr muh mayjowritee r not awlwehz rite))).
You could have gotten rid of jewboomer real easy after the first 10 complaints. Same with all the other cunts. Instead, (You) and the other cankickers waited until the 200+ complaint, then went: !!Oh MuH sHeKelZ i DuNnO wUt tWo Do HerE, pLeEz HaLp MuH dEiCiDe!!
>>174165Nah. The (((mods))) let britcuck fuckgoy Niggel get away with everything. They have since late 2016, and won't stop either.
>>174166>(They) should've banned him, amongst a dozen other shitniggers, from the ghetto-go, when the complaints started piling up.This, tbh. His repeated rule violations and explicit refusal to change were more than enough to warrant a ban by our own rules. Letting him stick around while pushing/breaking rules for three years did significant damage to our board.
Rules need to be enforced, and there is a real cost to not enforcing them. I hope we learn from this experience.
>>174183I'll grant that banning Nigel outright would have saved us all a lot of aggravation. For my part, I prefer to avoid banning anyone except as a last resort; maybe that was the wrong call in this instance. If so, I apologize. All I can really say in my defense is that at one time I honestly did believe there was some creative potential buried underneath all of that autism, and I assumed that if enough people kept piling on him for long enough he would eventually get the message and change his behavior. At the same time, though, you have to admit that some of the Nigel drama was pretty funny.
>>174166>pLeEz HaLp MuH dEiCiDe!!No. If you want to kill God, do it yourself.
Seriously, though, you of all people are hardly in a position to complain about anyone's posts being cancer. If I were going to start arbitrarily banning people just for being obnoxious, you would be at the top of the list. You are
at least as inarticulate as Nigel, and nearly as annoying. When he was still here and the two of you would get into it, it was like listening to two toddlers screeching at each other.
"HURR ma DURR DuRrR, random FUCKING profanity and TYPING IN ALL CAPS and (((inappropriate use of jew echoes))) and tYpInG LiKE tHiS jUsT tO bE oBnOxxIoUs and endless INSULTS and SLURS and aD hOmInEmS, everyone is a CUCKGOI or a zuckercuckbergfaggotgoyslimeniggerhurmadurrdurreatthepudding, maybe it's all a (((HEGELIAN DIALECTIC))) or some other inappropriate use of a term because I DOn'T KNoW what WORDS MEAN!!1!!"
See how fucking annoying that is? Why not just learn to express yourself in coherent English like a normal person? Also: why are you saging a thread that's already past bump limit?
>>174184I was referring to the boomer, not Nigel.
>All I can really say in my defense is that at one time I honestly did believe there was some creative potential buried underneath all of that autismYeah, I could say that for Nigel, but in all my scrutiny I didn't see anything the boomer posted that was worth keeping. He shit up dozens of my threads while contributing nothing to the conversation. He mass-dunped the tier of Facebook sewage that this board was created to escape. He didn't even post ponies in any context other than his reaction image folder. Most of his posting consisted of general-bumping, meme-dumps, rage-bait, or tangential arguments that derailed good threads: having borne witness to the cancer for three years, Idk what value he had that would have warranted letting him break rules with impunity or shit up the site for so long.
>>174185Oh I see, I guess I misunderstood which part of the rant you were replying to. Yeah, boomer anon is pretty much a lost cause; to hell with him. His content is just bad, without even being bad in a way that you can make fun of. If he can interact normally with the site and become indistinguishable from any other anon he's as welcome here as anyone else, but if he starts up that facebook meme-dumping bullshit again then if I have any say in it he's gone.
>>174185>He didn't even post ponies in any context other than his reaction image folder.Ahem.
https://mlpol.net/policy
>174188
Way to miss the fucking point you stupid, stupid nigger.
I thought you intended to
>no longer participate in a controlled opposition playground
And yet you came crawling back anyway, you narcissistic fuck.
>>174190What part of NO Exceptions you Mr. didn't understand? No matter your point, which is irrelevant when posting ponies is the subject. You should apologize and ask forgiveness.
>he thinks the issue is that he's posting reaction images
>not the fact that his posing and pretending to fit in when it's glaringly obvious he doesn't even care about ponies
This dense motherfucker.
>>174194>slanderIt is all you have.
>>174190>mfw boomer is back again just a month after saying he'd leaveThat's what I get for taking his word for it.
Long time no see horsefuckers, how goes it
I know you want to keep spamming horsepussy as ammunition against shills, thats fine. But Ive already been through it all. I spilled a bunch of coom at colorful TV screens. Just want to let you know some of us have grown up and our priorities have changed.
Heres some more memes, let us know when you got globe proof
>my intention is no longer participate in a controlled opposition playground. On my part, it was a good ride and I truly enjoyed it