This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal
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>>169477
>implying the pilots are taking three times as long for all three of the other flights just to conceal the true distance of the fourth one
>implying they could do this on a plane with minimum velocity without detouring in a way that would be impossible to conceal
Now you're just moving the goalpost. You lost the argument over the logic, so now you're resorting to denying the flight paths themselves.
You don't believe me, go crowdfund some flights from Jakarta to Bogota and try them yourself.
>implying the pilots are taking three times as long for all three of the other flights just to conceal the true distance of the fourth one
>implying they could do this on a plane with minimum velocity without detouring in a way that would be impossible to conceal
Now you're just moving the goalpost. You lost the argument over the logic, so now you're resorting to denying the flight paths themselves.
You don't believe me, go crowdfund some flights from Jakarta to Bogota and try them yourself.
Anonymous
No.169479
>>169477
Also, the path that moves over Sydney is still twice as long as the next path, even with that ugly black line you drew. Idk what you were trying to prove with that one.
Also, the path that moves over Sydney is still twice as long as the next path, even with that ugly black line you drew. Idk what you were trying to prove with that one.
Anonymous
No.169481
>>169474
>draw the arc on the map instead of straight line over or alongside the Americas.
The arc is reflective of the path the plane takes irl.
On a round earth, it's actually a straight line.
But that's still hardly relevant because even if you make the line straight as in >>169477 you'll find that it's still much longer than the other paths.
>draw the arc on the map instead of straight line over or alongside the Americas.
The arc is reflective of the path the plane takes irl.
On a round earth, it's actually a straight line.
But that's still hardly relevant because even if you make the line straight as in >>169477 you'll find that it's still much longer than the other paths.
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>>169478
>Now you're just moving the goalpost.
On the contrary, I'm securing their fixed position with proof. Instruments are calibrated to lie to the pilots.
>Now you're just moving the goalpost.
On the contrary, I'm securing their fixed position with proof. Instruments are calibrated to lie to the pilots.
>>169482
Then what are those planes really doing so that all of the passengers arrive at similar travel times?
If they took different paths, they wouldn't be hard to spot.
If they moved three times slower, they wouldn't be able to stay in the air.
So what are they doing? You claim that the instruments are lying to pilots, but what's your alternative proposal to what's happening?
Then what are those planes really doing so that all of the passengers arrive at similar travel times?
If they took different paths, they wouldn't be hard to spot.
If they moved three times slower, they wouldn't be able to stay in the air.
So what are they doing? You claim that the instruments are lying to pilots, but what's your alternative proposal to what's happening?
>>169484
I'm still playing the video, it didn't finish yet but here your are answering back. WOW!
Are you really after the truth? Or you just want to be right?
I'm still playing the video, it didn't finish yet but here your are answering back. WOW!
Are you really after the truth? Or you just want to be right?
>>169485
You still haven't explained how planes are able to fly in four different directions with those flight paths, and arrive in similar travel times for what would be wildly different distance on flat earth, but similar distance on round earth.
You can claim the pilots had their equipment like to them, but that doesn't explain how all those planes are getting there in the same amount of time.
You still haven't explained how planes are able to fly in four different directions with those flight paths, and arrive in similar travel times for what would be wildly different distance on flat earth, but similar distance on round earth.
You can claim the pilots had their equipment like to them, but that doesn't explain how all those planes are getting there in the same amount of time.
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No.169490
>>169488
I'm not contesting that instruments could lie to pilots. I'm asking you how the planes are able to arrive at their destination from three different directions in the same travel time.
You can't just fly a plane at a third of its cruising speed: it will crash.
I'm not contesting that instruments could lie to pilots. I'm asking you how the planes are able to arrive at their destination from three different directions in the same travel time.
You can't just fly a plane at a third of its cruising speed: it will crash.
>>169489
>You still haven't explained how planes are able to fly in four different directions with those flight paths, and arrive in similar travel times for what would be wildly different distance on flat earth, but similar distance on round earth.
It is right in front of your eyes. Get an orange and use a tailor measure tape, no matter from where choose to measure, the diametric opposite side will be at the same exact distance.
WOW!
>You still haven't explained how planes are able to fly in four different directions with those flight paths, and arrive in similar travel times for what would be wildly different distance on flat earth, but similar distance on round earth.
It is right in front of your eyes. Get an orange and use a tailor measure tape, no matter from where choose to measure, the diametric opposite side will be at the same exact distance.
WOW!
>>169491
Yeah, that works on a sphere; it does not work on a circle. You can clearly see on the chart that the path over Sydney is longer on the flat model, because it runs closer to the "ice wall" and would thus be much longer on flat earth.
Yeah, that works on a sphere; it does not work on a circle. You can clearly see on the chart that the path over Sydney is longer on the flat model, because it runs closer to the "ice wall" and would thus be much longer on flat earth.
>>169492
Make it easy for everyponer, get the times and the links to check what you claim is true and not a wild fantasy.
Make it easy for everyponer, get the times and the links to check what you claim is true and not a wild fantasy.
>>169494
>Jakarta–Istanbul–Bogota: 12h 0m + 13h 45m = 25.75 hours
>Jakarta–Hong Kong–New York–Bogota: 5h 5m + 16h 0m + 5h 42m = 26.783 hours
>Jakarta–Tokyo–Houston–Bogota: 7h 35m + 12h 5m + 4h 55m = 24.583 hours
>Jakarta–Sydney–Auckland–Santiago–Bogota: 6h 55m + 3h 5m + 11h 0m + 6h 14m = 27.23 hours
All these flights vary by only a couple hours, when on flat earth the path over Sydney should take 2-3 times as long because of it's southernmost route.
>Jakarta–Istanbul–Bogota: 12h 0m + 13h 45m = 25.75 hours
>Jakarta–Hong Kong–New York–Bogota: 5h 5m + 16h 0m + 5h 42m = 26.783 hours
>Jakarta–Tokyo–Houston–Bogota: 7h 35m + 12h 5m + 4h 55m = 24.583 hours
>Jakarta–Sydney–Auckland–Santiago–Bogota: 6h 55m + 3h 5m + 11h 0m + 6h 14m = 27.23 hours
All these flights vary by only a couple hours, when on flat earth the path over Sydney should take 2-3 times as long because of it's southernmost route.
>>169495
Plug it into the air miles calculator if you will
https://www.airmilescalculator.com/distance/bog-to-cgk/
On a flat earth, the further you go from the pole, the greater the distance around the earth will be. It's a radius/circumference thing. That's not happening here over Sydney. They're flying straight towards the antipodal point, just like a tailor's tape around an orange, that tailor's tape giving similar measurements for the other three flight paths.
Plug it into the air miles calculator if you will
https://www.airmilescalculator.com/distance/bog-to-cgk/
On a flat earth, the further you go from the pole, the greater the distance around the earth will be. It's a radius/circumference thing. That's not happening here over Sydney. They're flying straight towards the antipodal point, just like a tailor's tape around an orange, that tailor's tape giving similar measurements for the other three flight paths.
Anonymous
No.169499
>>169496
I've been doing this for over an hour. I need to go to bed. Fiddle with the link below. It shouldn't be hard to find other links, because the Jakarta-Bogota flight is famously the longest flight on earth (being on exact other side of the world, no matter what direction you fly in). In all cases, and all paths, the flights vary by ~3 hours at most.
>>169498
>straight lines on a flat plane
An ice ring has a circumference.
In either case, you could still see that the path was longer. It was STILL twice as even when you drew that straight black line through it.
I provided a link.
Pro-tip: you were onto something with the tape measure and orange analogy. Think a bit longer about the shape of an orange.
I've been doing this for over an hour. I need to go to bed. Fiddle with the link below. It shouldn't be hard to find other links, because the Jakarta-Bogota flight is famously the longest flight on earth (being on exact other side of the world, no matter what direction you fly in). In all cases, and all paths, the flights vary by ~3 hours at most.
>>169498
>straight lines on a flat plane
An ice ring has a circumference.
In either case, you could still see that the path was longer. It was STILL twice as even when you drew that straight black line through it.
I provided a link.
Pro-tip: you were onto something with the tape measure and orange analogy. Think a bit longer about the shape of an orange.
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No.169501
>>169498
All this time, you've been arguing for a round, circular earth. Idk what shape it would be if not a circle were it still surrounded by an ice ring.
The earth you described would have its circumference be 78142.78 miles of "ice ring".
All this time, you've been arguing for a round, circular earth. Idk what shape it would be if not a circle were it still surrounded by an ice ring.
The earth you described would have its circumference be 78142.78 miles of "ice ring".
Anonymous
No.169672
Did y'all like the partial solar eclipse the other day? Yesterday at noonish, my time? You know the collander trick, right? You grab a collander and hold it about waist-high and line it so the sunlight travels through the holes with least friction. This will project the shape of the sun on the ground, so you dont burn your retinas.
So this one was a partial solar eclipse. The sun never looked mpre than like the moon from castlevania; cool as shit, but not what you WANNA see.
Well.
It just so happens, THAT is gonna happen on April 8th 2024; right ~ 6 mos from now.
A full and total solar eclipse, with the mass darkening of the sky and the full ring of fire visible aloft.
And for me, its gonna peak at... 1:37
13:37, if using....
Anyway, you wanna know why this is significant?
Because if you understand all the references Ive made, you would know that none of this is possible on a flat earth.
So this one was a partial solar eclipse. The sun never looked mpre than like the moon from castlevania; cool as shit, but not what you WANNA see.
Well.
It just so happens, THAT is gonna happen on April 8th 2024; right ~ 6 mos from now.
A full and total solar eclipse, with the mass darkening of the sky and the full ring of fire visible aloft.
And for me, its gonna peak at... 1:37
13:37, if using....
Anyway, you wanna know why this is significant?
Because if you understand all the references Ive made, you would know that none of this is possible on a flat earth.
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>oxygen
I don't tell me it is because the NASA hacks used more pressure to fit more gas because both tanks contain liquid oxygen and liquid is for practical purposes incompressible.
I don't tell me it is because the NASA hacks used more pressure to fit more gas because both tanks contain liquid oxygen and liquid is for practical purposes incompressible.
>>169746
Those suits only had 6 hours of oxygen, iirc. Idk where the 22 hours thing comes from. I could be mistaken though; where did you find this information?
If you look closer, the suit and it's backup pack have significantly more volume than the driver's tanks. Oxygen/Nitrogen balance probably plays a role, as nitrogen saturation is a factor to keep divers from dying from the bends, but I would have to look it up first. Diving is also a much more oxygen-intensive task than walking in microgravity.
The Apollo 11 suits are also airtight, unlike the diver's gear which loses air with every breath in the form of bubbles. Humans don't absorb 100% of the oxygen they inhale, so as I gather the space suit has a longer life by refiltering exhaled air and sealing CO2 away.
Those suits only had 6 hours of oxygen, iirc. Idk where the 22 hours thing comes from. I could be mistaken though; where did you find this information?
If you look closer, the suit and it's backup pack have significantly more volume than the driver's tanks. Oxygen/Nitrogen balance probably plays a role, as nitrogen saturation is a factor to keep divers from dying from the bends, but I would have to look it up first. Diving is also a much more oxygen-intensive task than walking in microgravity.
The Apollo 11 suits are also airtight, unlike the diver's gear which loses air with every breath in the form of bubbles. Humans don't absorb 100% of the oxygen they inhale, so as I gather the space suit has a longer life by refiltering exhaled air and sealing CO2 away.
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>>169758
I tried reverse-image searching. It didn't work. Where did you get the pic?
When I looked it up, I saw that it is in fact only 6 hours of oxygen.
I tried reverse-image searching. It didn't work. Where did you get the pic?
When I looked it up, I saw that it is in fact only 6 hours of oxygen.
>>169759
>I tried reverse-image searching. It didn't work
Of course it won't work. You dump your dumb phone and get a real computer to search for oxygen tanks.
>I tried reverse-image searching. It didn't work
Of course it won't work. You dump your dumb phone and get a real computer to search for oxygen tanks.
>>169760
I was asking about where you got the meme. I have the oxygen tank info right in front of me on my computer. All sources I see say six hours.
I was asking about where you got the meme. I have the oxygen tank info right in front of me on my computer. All sources I see say six hours.
Anonymous
No.169765
>>169763
Well, it looks like they were mistaken though.
Of course 22 hours doesn't make sense, because that's not what it was. They did not walk on the moon for anywhere close to 22 hours. It was made for 6 hours.
Well, it looks like they were mistaken though.
Of course 22 hours doesn't make sense, because that's not what it was. They did not walk on the moon for anywhere close to 22 hours. It was made for 6 hours.
Talking about soooorces.
Most globers listen to this dumb nigger Tyson and agree he is smart. LOL
Most globers listen to this dumb nigger Tyson and agree he is smart. LOL
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>>169766
This is public domain information, ffs.
The 22 hours thing was an ass pull. I cannot find anyone who's ever claimed the suit has 22 hours of oxygen, and considering the fact that you won't say where you got it, you can't either.
This is public domain information, ffs.
The 22 hours thing was an ass pull. I cannot find anyone who's ever claimed the suit has 22 hours of oxygen, and considering the fact that you won't say where you got it, you can't either.
Anonymous
No.169771
>>169768
>Most globers listen to this dumb nigger Tyson and agree he is smart
Barely anyone thinks that. Even other astrophysicists think he's an egotistical hack. Faggot celebrity-scientist.
>Most globers listen to this dumb nigger Tyson and agree he is smart
Barely anyone thinks that. Even other astrophysicists think he's an egotistical hack. Faggot celebrity-scientist.
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>>169770
That PDF is about the technology used for life support in a close system and it does not apply to the meme which is specifically about gas volume/hour endurance.
It is very simple, so many cubic feet of oxygen can keep alive a human so many hours. It is like a fuel calculus, so much fuel, so many miles.
That PDF is about the technology used for life support in a close system and it does not apply to the meme which is specifically about gas volume/hour endurance.
It is very simple, so many cubic feet of oxygen can keep alive a human so many hours. It is like a fuel calculus, so much fuel, so many miles.
>>169779
The PDF is about the life support system, which includes how much oxygen the tank can provide.
It is able to go for 6 hours instead of two for multiple reasons including but not limited to the fact that it doesn't need to account for nitrogen saturated bends, it's visibly larger than a single diving tank or pair of tanks, and the fact that it doesn't waste oxygen by expelling it in bubbles every time a breath is taken like the diver does.
The PDF is about the life support system, which includes how much oxygen the tank can provide.
It is able to go for 6 hours instead of two for multiple reasons including but not limited to the fact that it doesn't need to account for nitrogen saturated bends, it's visibly larger than a single diving tank or pair of tanks, and the fact that it doesn't waste oxygen by expelling it in bubbles every time a breath is taken like the diver does.
>>169782
Dude, that might work. and with a lot of limits, in a submarine where size and weight are allowed, not on the back of a man.
Dude, that might work. and with a lot of limits, in a submarine where size and weight are allowed, not on the back of a man.
Anonymous
No.169786
>>169785
The designer expressed regret for not being able to make it last that long without increasing the volume of the suit, but luckily, equipment weighs a lot less on the moon.
Besides, these men were the fittest America had to offer. U.S. soldiers periodically carry heavier loads on their backs.
The designer expressed regret for not being able to make it last that long without increasing the volume of the suit, but luckily, equipment weighs a lot less on the moon.
Besides, these men were the fittest America had to offer. U.S. soldiers periodically carry heavier loads on their backs.
I believe the meme he shared is confusing aggregate time with the walk time. Google brings up that:
"The moonwalks conducted by American astronauts lasted for 20 hours and 14 minutes. During the Apollo 17 mission, astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin spent 21 hours and 36 minutes on the lunar surface. In total, American astronauts have spent 3 days, 8 hours, 22 minutes and 26 seconds walking on the moon."
This matches the meme time, which quite purposely confused the time when each individual walk before returning to pick up a new supply was:
"walked around for about two and a half hours"
In other words, their big ass backpack allowed for double the time of an average dive tank. You can tell in the image that those tanks don't match the size of the backpack, nor match the weight because you need to remain mobile under water while on the moon, you can just walk and jump.
You have been lied to. Next time, don't believe random fucking strangers on the internet giving you shit tier memes.
"The moonwalks conducted by American astronauts lasted for 20 hours and 14 minutes. During the Apollo 17 mission, astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin spent 21 hours and 36 minutes on the lunar surface. In total, American astronauts have spent 3 days, 8 hours, 22 minutes and 26 seconds walking on the moon."
This matches the meme time, which quite purposely confused the time when each individual walk before returning to pick up a new supply was:
"walked around for about two and a half hours"
In other words, their big ass backpack allowed for double the time of an average dive tank. You can tell in the image that those tanks don't match the size of the backpack, nor match the weight because you need to remain mobile under water while on the moon, you can just walk and jump.
You have been lied to. Next time, don't believe random fucking strangers on the internet giving you shit tier memes.
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>>169792
>Next time, don't believe random fucking strangers on the internet giving you shit tier memes.
Those hideous racists...
>Next time, don't believe random fucking strangers on the internet giving you shit tier memes.
Those hideous racists...
>>169794
I didn't say anything about them being racists. I said they lied to you because they are strangers giving you shit memes. Nice try at deflection.
I didn't say anything about them being racists. I said they lied to you because they are strangers giving you shit memes. Nice try at deflection.
>>169795
>I said they lied to you because they are strangers giving you shit memes.
Did you ever consider that memes can be homemade?
>I said they lied to you because they are strangers giving you shit memes.
Did you ever consider that memes can be homemade?
Anonymous
No.169798
>>169797
Exactly my point. Seeing as they made them at home and they gave you the wrong number on your meme for you to believe, then you were lied to.
Unless you are speaking to it being homemade as in you made it yourself, in which case you took the wrong fucking number, dumbass.
Exactly my point. Seeing as they made them at home and they gave you the wrong number on your meme for you to believe, then you were lied to.
Unless you are speaking to it being homemade as in you made it yourself, in which case you took the wrong fucking number, dumbass.
>>169797
That's no excuse for being shit-tier and inaccurate. Even at face value the meme made no sense, and the maker either did zero actual research or made it inaccurate on purpose.
And then you went and reposted it without checking, and claimed it proved your point, leaving the rest of us to check for you and call out that it's nonsense. Nice move.
That's no excuse for being shit-tier and inaccurate. Even at face value the meme made no sense, and the maker either did zero actual research or made it inaccurate on purpose.
And then you went and reposted it without checking, and claimed it proved your point, leaving the rest of us to check for you and call out that it's nonsense. Nice move.
>>169799
>Even at face value the meme made no sense
It makes totally sense, even with all the mentally gymnastics cannot be beaten, IMO.
>Even at face value the meme made no sense
It makes totally sense, even with all the mentally gymnastics cannot be beaten, IMO.
Anonymous
No.169801
>>169800
It makes no sense because nobody has ever claimed that the life support system works for 22 hours, except for the brainlet who made this meme.
It makes no sense because nobody has ever claimed that the life support system works for 22 hours, except for the brainlet who made this meme.
>>169803
The meme says 22 hours. You lied. You are suggesting you made the meme yourself or comes from trusted sources. It is proven to be a lie because it was 2.5 hours.
The meme says 22 hours. You lied. You are suggesting you made the meme yourself or comes from trusted sources. It is proven to be a lie because it was 2.5 hours.
>>169804
>The meme says 22 hours. You lied.
You lie. According to NASA, its actors in space costumes were there for 22 hours. If they replenished their air supply, is not proven.
>The meme says 22 hours. You lied.
You lie. According to NASA, its actors in space costumes were there for 22 hours. If they replenished their air supply, is not proven.
>>169806
https://youtu.be/S7Cl1hRMPA8?feature=shared
The meme says 22 hours. The sources said 22 is aggregate. Are you telling me that they didn't sleep at all during the mission?
https://youtu.be/S7Cl1hRMPA8?feature=shared
The meme says 22 hours. The sources said 22 is aggregate. Are you telling me that they didn't sleep at all during the mission?
Anonymous
No.169808
>>169803
The life support system is visibly bigger than the two tanks in your stupid meme: the tank is literally bigger.
It also, again, doesn't need to account for bends, and it is doesn't waste oxygen by bubbling it away.
It's ridiculous for a suit to last 22 hours, but one being designed to last for six hours is well within the realm of possibility for all of the reasons described above. Just the fact that the suit is a closed system alone means it's drastically more air-efficient than the civilian diver's tank.
Also, they didn't even use it for the full 6 hours, they did it for 2.5 hours. 6 hours is it's absolute maximum. Even most diving tanks can actually go for longer than their labelling recommends, but only retards would push the limit when their brain tissue is on the line. They made a suit that was more than twice the capacity they needed because they had to account for things going wrong and the astronauts somehow being delayed on their path back to the vessel.
The life support system is visibly bigger than the two tanks in your stupid meme: the tank is literally bigger.
It also, again, doesn't need to account for bends, and it is doesn't waste oxygen by bubbling it away.
It's ridiculous for a suit to last 22 hours, but one being designed to last for six hours is well within the realm of possibility for all of the reasons described above. Just the fact that the suit is a closed system alone means it's drastically more air-efficient than the civilian diver's tank.
Also, they didn't even use it for the full 6 hours, they did it for 2.5 hours. 6 hours is it's absolute maximum. Even most diving tanks can actually go for longer than their labelling recommends, but only retards would push the limit when their brain tissue is on the line. They made a suit that was more than twice the capacity they needed because they had to account for things going wrong and the astronauts somehow being delayed on their path back to the vessel.
>>169807
>Are you telling me that they didn't sleep at all during the mission?
Sleeping does not stops breathing. Just saying.
>Are you telling me that they didn't sleep at all during the mission?
Sleeping does not stops breathing. Just saying.
Anonymous
No.169811
>>169806
>You lie. According to NASA, its actors in space costumes were there for 22 hours.
Where and when has NASA ever said this? It's not in any of their documentation or their announcements.
>You lie. According to NASA, its actors in space costumes were there for 22 hours.
Where and when has NASA ever said this? It's not in any of their documentation or their announcements.
Anonymous
No.169813
>>169809
They weren't wearing the suits while they slept, idiot. They slept aboard the vessel, which had more than enough Oxygen.
They weren't wearing the suits while they slept, idiot. They slept aboard the vessel, which had more than enough Oxygen.
Anonymous
No.169857
>>169803
>refusing to acknowledge the tank sizes
We all said the tank on the suit is visibly bigger. You can see that it's bigger.
>refusing to acknowledge the tank sizes
We all said the tank on the suit is visibly bigger. You can see that it's bigger.
Anonymous
No.169858
>>169755
You simply get as much attention as you intended to raise. By saging, that means nothing at all.
You simply get as much attention as you intended to raise. By saging, that means nothing at all.
Anonymous
No.169954
Heres a quick short, so you wont have missed out
https://youtube.com/shorts/cu4tYxZA0g4?si=ke3za4YYvg579u2g
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Hello anons.
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Privately owned high altitude aerostatic balloon.
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>>170137
It's pretty easy to cut photos like this to make them appear flat. It doesn't help that the lower photo is so grainy; almost as it it were cut from a larger image.
Of course, we could settle this right away if we had the name of the balloon and the date this photo was taken.
>>170139
Privately owned by who?
It's pretty easy to cut photos like this to make them appear flat. It doesn't help that the lower photo is so grainy; almost as it it were cut from a larger image.
Of course, we could settle this right away if we had the name of the balloon and the date this photo was taken.
>>170139
Privately owned by who?
>>170141
>It's pretty easy to cut photos like this to make them appear flat
You tell me. For decades the masons have been using eyefish lenses and everybody swallowed the hoax.
>It's pretty easy to cut photos like this to make them appear flat
You tell me. For decades the masons have been using eyefish lenses and everybody swallowed the hoax.
Anonymous
No.170143
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>>170142
More like the opposite. Defishing high altitude photos make them appear flat. Give me a named example of a balloon and I'll show it to you.
More like the opposite. Defishing high altitude photos make them appear flat. Give me a named example of a balloon and I'll show it to you.
Anonymous
No.170144
Anonymous
No.170147
>>170145
>true evidence
You've still yet to give the name of the balloon, or any single example we can analyze.
>true evidence
You've still yet to give the name of the balloon, or any single example we can analyze.
Anonymous
No.170148
Anonymous
No.170150
>>170149
Just wait until april. Many may have missed the last one, but they WONT miss this one
No doubt itll be factored into the ramping WW3 talking points,... ugh, its gonna get spicy
Just wait until april. Many may have missed the last one, but they WONT miss this one
No doubt itll be factored into the ramping WW3 talking points,... ugh, its gonna get spicy
Anonymous
No.170153
>>169806
>According to NASA, its actors in space costumes were there for 22 hours.
I haven't found NASA saying this anywhere. You must be mistaken.
>According to NASA, its actors in space costumes were there for 22 hours.
I haven't found NASA saying this anywhere. You must be mistaken.
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Globers in this thread.
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Chunk of the moon appears to be orbiting near Earth.
To the globers.
>>170186
What's so special about this particular pic?
Also, this wasn't filmed. It was a photograph. The videos are much lower quality because video tech wasn't as developed back then.
What's so special about this particular pic?
Also, this wasn't filmed. It was a photograph. The videos are much lower quality because video tech wasn't as developed back then.
>>170185
>they're saying a piece of the moon just fell off
It didn't "just fall off". It's been there for a century.
>two years ago they said the same.
>second time in two years
The asteroid was named as a quasi-satellite in 2016, a study in 2021 analyzed it's material composition, and a recent study graphed it's current orbit and extrapolated it's previous orbit. This retard didn't even read the articles he's ridiculing, because he's claiming that NASA said two things happened when in fact both articles are referring to the same fucking rock.
It was two years ago (2021) that a study was done analyzing the light reflecting off of the asteroid and concluding that it had the same substance composition as the moon, but weren't sure how a lunar object would
The new study is based on a computer simulation that graphs the asteroids orbit, explaining how Kamoʻoalewa attained such a peculiar orbit bouncing between the earth and Sun's gravity.
Both studies were referring to the same rock, the rock that has been circling for decades. Nobody ever claimed that a piece of the moon "fell off" of it two years in a row, unlike what this wigger is saying.
Do you even research this shit before posting it?
>they're saying a piece of the moon just fell off
It didn't "just fall off". It's been there for a century.
>two years ago they said the same.
>second time in two years
The asteroid was named as a quasi-satellite in 2016, a study in 2021 analyzed it's material composition, and a recent study graphed it's current orbit and extrapolated it's previous orbit. This retard didn't even read the articles he's ridiculing, because he's claiming that NASA said two things happened when in fact both articles are referring to the same fucking rock.
It was two years ago (2021) that a study was done analyzing the light reflecting off of the asteroid and concluding that it had the same substance composition as the moon, but weren't sure how a lunar object would
The new study is based on a computer simulation that graphs the asteroids orbit, explaining how Kamoʻoalewa attained such a peculiar orbit bouncing between the earth and Sun's gravity.
Both studies were referring to the same rock, the rock that has been circling for decades. Nobody ever claimed that a piece of the moon "fell off" of it two years in a row, unlike what this wigger is saying.
Do you even research this shit before posting it?
>>170185
>NASA just announced
Ffs, they did not "just announce" it. The recent announcement was publishing a simulation-based study about it's historical orbit and a prediction for how long it will start near earth.
>NASA just announced
Ffs, they did not "just announce" it. The recent announcement was publishing a simulation-based study about it's historical orbit and a prediction for how long it will start near earth.
>>170194
You know he wont, because it is.
Still waiting on that whole eclipse thing not to mention the ships over the horizon thing
But staff is okay with this cuz it doesnt hilight (and yet it does) their malfeasance
You know he wont, because it is.
Still waiting on that whole eclipse thing not to mention the ships over the horizon thing
But staff is okay with this cuz it doesnt hilight (and yet it does) their malfeasance
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>>170212
Starlink is going pretty well for him. That satellite Internet is really taking off.
Elon owns half of the satellites orbiting the earth right now. It's come to the point where the U.S. military had to buy their own Starlink system for Ukraine so that Elon wouldn't be able to turn it off.
Starlink is going pretty well for him. That satellite Internet is really taking off.
Elon owns half of the satellites orbiting the earth right now. It's come to the point where the U.S. military had to buy their own Starlink system for Ukraine so that Elon wouldn't be able to turn it off.
>>170213
>Starlink is going pretty well for him. That satellite Internet is really taking off.
A hint.
Neither Starlink or any satellite service does work in the mountains away from populated regions nor in the middle of the ocean. And when actually and intermittently works is because there is a balloon floating at 30km high relaying the signal.
>Starlink is going pretty well for him. That satellite Internet is really taking off.
A hint.
Neither Starlink or any satellite service does work in the mountains away from populated regions nor in the middle of the ocean. And when actually and intermittently works is because there is a balloon floating at 30km high relaying the signal.
>>170216
>Neither Starlink or any satellite service does work in the mountains
Weren't they using Starlink terminals out in the mountains of Morocco after that earthquake recently?
The biggest benefit of Starlink is that it works even in remote areas and where infrastructure has gone to shit.
>ocean
Yes it does. It has almost complete coverage over all the world's oceans. They use it on ships all of the time.
>Neither Starlink or any satellite service does work in the mountains
Weren't they using Starlink terminals out in the mountains of Morocco after that earthquake recently?
The biggest benefit of Starlink is that it works even in remote areas and where infrastructure has gone to shit.
>ocean
Yes it does. It has almost complete coverage over all the world's oceans. They use it on ships all of the time.
>>170217
>It has almost complete coverage over all the world's oceans.
Go below the Ecuator parallel and see how it works, the further you sail to the south, the less functional is.
>It has almost complete coverage over all the world's oceans.
Go below the Ecuator parallel and see how it works, the further you sail to the south, the less functional is.
>>170218
They were it to track ships having to go around the horn of Africa in real time during that Suez canal fiasco. It works perfectly fine down south.
Where are you getting this?
They were it to track ships having to go around the horn of Africa in real time during that Suez canal fiasco. It works perfectly fine down south.
Where are you getting this?
>>170219
>Where are you getting this?
First hand experience sailing the Cabo the Hornos, where the world ends before reaching Antartica. This have been described by me like a thousand posts above.
>Where are you getting this?
First hand experience sailing the Cabo the Hornos, where the world ends before reaching Antartica. This have been described by me like a thousand posts above.
>>170223
Well, if it was more than three years, that's not really relevant, because most Starlink satellites have gone up very recently.
>dox yourself
>implying a boat among tens thousands sailing on a particular year is doxxable
Well, if it was more than three years, that's not really relevant, because most Starlink satellites have gone up very recently.
>dox yourself
>implying a boat among tens thousands sailing on a particular year is doxxable
>>170224
>because most Starlink satellites have gone up very recently.
Yeah, but satellital service is way before Musk's hoax.
>because most Starlink satellites have gone up very recently.
Yeah, but satellital service is way before Musk's hoax.
Anonymous
No.170226
>>170224
>implying a boat among tens thousands sailing on a particular year is doxxable
The Cabo the Hornos is a veeeeeeeeeery special route where no many adventure into. Just yandex it.
>implying a boat among tens thousands sailing on a particular year is doxxable
The Cabo the Hornos is a veeeeeeeeeery special route where no many adventure into. Just yandex it.
Anonymous
No.170227
>>170225
General satellite service isn't Starlink internet. Starlink has proven to be reliable all over the ocean, so sailors can shitpost from anywhere on the seas.
And as I said before, the number of satellites has doubled in the past few years.
General satellite service isn't Starlink internet. Starlink has proven to be reliable all over the ocean, so sailors can shitpost from anywhere on the seas.
And as I said before, the number of satellites has doubled in the past few years.
>>170225
>hoax
Considering how lucrative and influential satellite internet is proving to be, it wouldn't even matter if it were made of a bunch of balloons or dangling on strings glued to Ymir's skull. Whatever it's made of, Starlink is an incredibly promising technology.
>hoax
Considering how lucrative and influential satellite internet is proving to be, it wouldn't even matter if it were made of a bunch of balloons or dangling on strings glued to Ymir's skull. Whatever it's made of, Starlink is an incredibly promising technology.
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>>170228
>Starlink is an incredibly promising technology.
I would say a balloon technology rebranded as satellital.
>Starlink is an incredibly promising technology.
I would say a balloon technology rebranded as satellital.
>>170229
>pics
These aren't Starlink terminals though?
Pic 1 is from a test flight for a silly sunlight-blocking technology to fight climate change in Sweden. It was cancelled due to being stupid
Pic 2-3 are pics of NASA's launch of the Compton Spectrometer.
None of this has anything to do with Starlink.
>pics
These aren't Starlink terminals though?
Pic 1 is from a test flight for a silly sunlight-blocking technology to fight climate change in Sweden. It was cancelled due to being stupid
Pic 2-3 are pics of NASA's launch of the Compton Spectrometer.
None of this has anything to do with Starlink.
>>170230
>None of this has anything to do with Starlink.
Of course not. You really expect Mr Musk to show us commercial secrets? But the balloon technique stands.
>None of this has anything to do with Starlink.
Of course not. You really expect Mr Musk to show us commercial secrets? But the balloon technique stands.
>>170231
>But the balloon technique stands
Based on what?
We could've had satellite Internet a lot earlier if balloons were reliable satellites.
Starlink took off when spaceX developed a method to recover rockets so that the equipment for putting satellites in orbit wasn't only disposable.
>But the balloon technique stands
Based on what?
We could've had satellite Internet a lot earlier if balloons were reliable satellites.
Starlink took off when spaceX developed a method to recover rockets so that the equipment for putting satellites in orbit wasn't only disposable.
>>170233
>We could've had satellite Internet a lot earlier if balloons were reliable satellites.
Exactly, balloons are so effective as the wind currents that take them away, that's the reason why a continuous launching rate of balloons are necessary to fake satellites and keep an apparently stable communication link.
>We could've had satellite Internet a lot earlier if balloons were reliable satellites.
Exactly, balloons are so effective as the wind currents that take them away, that's the reason why a continuous launching rate of balloons are necessary to fake satellites and keep an apparently stable communication link.
>>170235
Except balloons also deflate over time at a rate that makes them unreliable for permanent infrastructure.
>continuous launching rate of balloons are necessary to fake satellites and keep an apparently stable communication link
Oh, hahaha, just continuously keep launching $250,000 satellites that fall into the sea when their balloons pop. That's totally a sustainable business model.
Except balloons also deflate over time at a rate that makes them unreliable for permanent infrastructure.
>continuous launching rate of balloons are necessary to fake satellites and keep an apparently stable communication link
Oh, hahaha, just continuously keep launching $250,000 satellites that fall into the sea when their balloons pop. That's totally a sustainable business model.
>>170236
>$250,000 satellites that fall into the sea when their balloons pop. That's totally a sustainable business model.
Dude, even Amazon was not a sustainable model for years and I'm not sure is getting even today. All these private enterprises would never survive a year without government contracts and assistance. You see, while claiming to be a companies in a free market environment, reality is that they survive because government centralized communism.
>$250,000 satellites that fall into the sea when their balloons pop. That's totally a sustainable business model.
Dude, even Amazon was not a sustainable model for years and I'm not sure is getting even today. All these private enterprises would never survive a year without government contracts and assistance. You see, while claiming to be a companies in a free market environment, reality is that they survive because government centralized communism.
>>170235
>>170236
It would cost $15,000,000,000 per day to continuously replace all Starlink satellites without communications loss, and that's just considering the manufacturing, not the salaries of the technicians or the cost of launching balloons.
>>170237
You seriously think Elon is spending more than fifteen billion dollars per day to continuously replace over five thousand satellites on weather balloons that cost two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and only last for two hours each?
>>170236
It would cost $15,000,000,000 per day to continuously replace all Starlink satellites without communications loss, and that's just considering the manufacturing, not the salaries of the technicians or the cost of launching balloons.
>>170237
You seriously think Elon is spending more than fifteen billion dollars per day to continuously replace over five thousand satellites on weather balloons that cost two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and only last for two hours each?
>>170238
>You seriously think Elon is spending more than fifteen billion dollars per day to continuously replace over five thousand satellites
>5,000 satellites
You seriously think Elon is telling you the truth? KEK
>You seriously think Elon is spending more than fifteen billion dollars per day to continuously replace over five thousand satellites
>5,000 satellites
You seriously think Elon is telling you the truth? KEK
Anonymous
No.170241
>>170240
No idea and it actually is not important because is the same case than Google. The government is interested in keeping functioning at any cost, if it makes profit is good, and if not injections of capital will keep it afloat.
No idea and it actually is not important because is the same case than Google. The government is interested in keeping functioning at any cost, if it makes profit is good, and if not injections of capital will keep it afloat.
>>170239
How would Starlink possibly work if there weren't that many satellites? You think this is possible with only a few satellites? This is a fuckload of data we're talking about.
How would Starlink possibly work if there weren't that many satellites? You think this is possible with only a few satellites? This is a fuckload of data we're talking about.
>>170242
>This is a fuckload of data we're talking about.
It is not. 97% of all internet traffic goes through submarine cables and the rest is distributed between land fiber optics and airborne relays.
>This is a fuckload of data we're talking about.
It is not. 97% of all internet traffic goes through submarine cables and the rest is distributed between land fiber optics and airborne relays.
>>170243
Except all of that has to be accessible through the satellite if Starlink is supposed to be useful for anything, so it does indeed have to go through the satellite.
The only reason Starlink works is because there's so many of them, and there's that many of them because SpaceX recovers the rockets for reuse.
Except all of that has to be accessible through the satellite if Starlink is supposed to be useful for anything, so it does indeed have to go through the satellite.
The only reason Starlink works is because there's so many of them, and there's that many of them because SpaceX recovers the rockets for reuse.
>>170245
Weather balloons only last two hours.
To have continuous connection, you'd have to replace each of them 12 times a day.
Weather balloons only last two hours.
To have continuous connection, you'd have to replace each of them 12 times a day.
For those in the known.
>The current solar cycle is, indeed, a circle. Because the sun revolves in a circle, that is also the shape of the ice wall that exists at our boundaries.
>The firmament barrier may be much larger than this, though, according to the 'moon map' - the image of the Earth we see projected on the moon.
>On the moon map, we see many other, HUGE pieces of land - and resources - outside our solar cycle, and the ice wall.
>The current solar cycle is, indeed, a circle. Because the sun revolves in a circle, that is also the shape of the ice wall that exists at our boundaries.
>The firmament barrier may be much larger than this, though, according to the 'moon map' - the image of the Earth we see projected on the moon.
>On the moon map, we see many other, HUGE pieces of land - and resources - outside our solar cycle, and the ice wall.
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>>170372
I've heard of Dark Continent theory. It's basically the Flat Earther's equivalent to Hollow Earth theory: it would be really amazing if it were true, but there's little evidence for it (even in context of Flat Earth cosmology). The concept of a terrestrial hidden world outside the known boundaries of our own with it's own lands and resources and unexplored frontiers is a cool idea, although not much supporting it.
I've seen Dark Continent theory in referenced in a lot of fantasy world-building. One example would be the Magi manga (although it has a spherical earth, it's still the same concept). It's a fun trope, for the reasons above. I would recommend it for fantasy world-builders interested in making a final frontier who's existence tells a story about the meaning of the world's creation, being in close proximity to the great rift of creation, perhaps even the path to an ancient, dead world from eons before this land was formed, or an inverted world unlike our own, perhaps even the realm of the dead, or the home of our ancestors.
The trope is, in many ways, like an inversion of hyperborean hollow earth theory. Where Hyperborea depicts a paradise in the north, and a world within a world, Dark Continent theory depicts a dark and loathsome wasteland which encompasses our own, a world outside our world.
In my own fantasy pony worldbuilding, I considered the idea of the Dark Continent being the icy frontier of the world being a rugged and untamable place, where providence withers, reality breaks down, and the wendigos rule the frigid edges of disharmony. I based it on the warning sign in The Witcher III: "You've reached the edge of the world! Only devils roam here! Turn back!". I love the trope of the edges of reality being dark and sinister places inhabited by nameless horrors, but still worlds in and of themselves.
Where did you quote that greentext from? I would like to read more about this supposed "moon map". All I find is maps of the cartography of the moon itself. I know the moon is reflective, but I didn't think it was reflective enough to reflect a mirror-like image of earth.
I've heard of Dark Continent theory. It's basically the Flat Earther's equivalent to Hollow Earth theory: it would be really amazing if it were true, but there's little evidence for it (even in context of Flat Earth cosmology). The concept of a terrestrial hidden world outside the known boundaries of our own with it's own lands and resources and unexplored frontiers is a cool idea, although not much supporting it.
I've seen Dark Continent theory in referenced in a lot of fantasy world-building. One example would be the Magi manga (although it has a spherical earth, it's still the same concept). It's a fun trope, for the reasons above. I would recommend it for fantasy world-builders interested in making a final frontier who's existence tells a story about the meaning of the world's creation, being in close proximity to the great rift of creation, perhaps even the path to an ancient, dead world from eons before this land was formed, or an inverted world unlike our own, perhaps even the realm of the dead, or the home of our ancestors.
The trope is, in many ways, like an inversion of hyperborean hollow earth theory. Where Hyperborea depicts a paradise in the north, and a world within a world, Dark Continent theory depicts a dark and loathsome wasteland which encompasses our own, a world outside our world.
In my own fantasy pony worldbuilding, I considered the idea of the Dark Continent being the icy frontier of the world being a rugged and untamable place, where providence withers, reality breaks down, and the wendigos rule the frigid edges of disharmony. I based it on the warning sign in The Witcher III: "You've reached the edge of the world! Only devils roam here! Turn back!". I love the trope of the edges of reality being dark and sinister places inhabited by nameless horrors, but still worlds in and of themselves.
Where did you quote that greentext from? I would like to read more about this supposed "moon map". All I find is maps of the cartography of the moon itself. I know the moon is reflective, but I didn't think it was reflective enough to reflect a mirror-like image of earth.
>>170373
Okay, I did some research on the "moon map" thing. It's the suggestion that the moon is actually a map/reflection/projection of the earth.
Overall, I have to say, I disagree. Not only do the craters of the moon not really match the geography of the earth (although they could look vaguely similar if you squint), the moon's craters are also observable in greater detail with medieval-era telescopes, and while observing the moon shows that it indeed does have mountains, pits, and valleys, they don't really match up with the geography of the world.
To kill time, I decided to check out if anyone decided to map out the moon's craters in detail and compare them to the earth, but all I found was vague outlines drawn with an excess of wishful thinking.
Cool idea, but it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.
Okay, I did some research on the "moon map" thing. It's the suggestion that the moon is actually a map/reflection/projection of the earth.
Overall, I have to say, I disagree. Not only do the craters of the moon not really match the geography of the earth (although they could look vaguely similar if you squint), the moon's craters are also observable in greater detail with medieval-era telescopes, and while observing the moon shows that it indeed does have mountains, pits, and valleys, they don't really match up with the geography of the world.
To kill time, I decided to check out if anyone decided to map out the moon's craters in detail and compare them to the earth, but all I found was vague outlines drawn with an excess of wishful thinking.
Cool idea, but it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.
>>170375
>Cool idea, but it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.
At less... you try to match the map with the undersea geology, then suddenly it makes sense.
>Cool idea, but it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.
At less... you try to match the map with the undersea geology, then suddenly it makes sense.
Anonymous
No.170377
>>170373
>Dark Continent theory depicts a dark and loathsome wasteland which encompasses our own
Did you know that there is some myths about sunny warm lands beyond the frozen wasteland? If so, it may be that there is at least other sun circling the dome in a wider ring.
>Dark Continent theory depicts a dark and loathsome wasteland which encompasses our own
Did you know that there is some myths about sunny warm lands beyond the frozen wasteland? If so, it may be that there is at least other sun circling the dome in a wider ring.
Anonymous
No.170378
>>170373
>The trope is, in many ways, like an inversion of hyperborean hollow earth theory. Where Hyperborea depicts a paradise in the north
A reminder that the north is also guarded by men with weapons and no one is allowed to travel there.
>The trope is, in many ways, like an inversion of hyperborean hollow earth theory. Where Hyperborea depicts a paradise in the north
A reminder that the north is also guarded by men with weapons and no one is allowed to travel there.
>>170376
Nah, I considered that. There doesn't seem to be any exact match with abovesea geography.
>there is some myths about sunny warm lands beyond the frozen wasteland?
Of course I know. I just referenced Hyperborea.
>no one is allowed
That's not really true at all. People go there all of the time. You can schedule holiday trips there. Multiple shipping routes go there too.
Nah, I considered that. There doesn't seem to be any exact match with abovesea geography.
>there is some myths about sunny warm lands beyond the frozen wasteland?
Of course I know. I just referenced Hyperborea.
>no one is allowed
That's not really true at all. People go there all of the time. You can schedule holiday trips there. Multiple shipping routes go there too.
>>170379
>Nah, I considered that. There doesn't seem to be any exact match with abovesea geography.
Hang on. I saw a good presentation but long and geometrically convoluted, but kinda a geographical match nevertheless.
>Nah, I considered that. There doesn't seem to be any exact match with abovesea geography.
Hang on. I saw a good presentation but long and geometrically convoluted, but kinda a geographical match nevertheless.
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Our constellations have never changed, and our Earth clock has never changed.
This is a small clip from >>148621
This is a small clip from >>148621
Anonymous
No.170386
>>170385
>Our constellations have never changed
Our constellations have demonstrably changed, since Ancient Egypt.
>If everything was moving we'd see different things in the sky
We've had this exact conversation before. It was explained. Scroll up.
Why are you posting redundant arguments? Why are you repeating yourself? Did you just forget?
>Our constellations have never changed
Our constellations have demonstrably changed, since Ancient Egypt.
>If everything was moving we'd see different things in the sky
We've had this exact conversation before. It was explained. Scroll up.
Why are you posting redundant arguments? Why are you repeating yourself? Did you just forget?
>>170387
>You've brought this up before. Everypony remembers.
Yeah, and yet you still insist in your misinterpretation because you have no clue what you are talking about. If your ball is flipping around in a allegedly universe, then is impossible to have any periodicity in stars' position.
>You've brought this up before. Everypony remembers.
Yeah, and yet you still insist in your misinterpretation because you have no clue what you are talking about. If your ball is flipping around in a allegedly universe, then is impossible to have any periodicity in stars' position.
>>170388
>then is impossible to have any periodicity in stars' position
How is that impossible?
And again, you're just repeating yourself, with the same arguments you've already made in this thread, like a broken record.
>then is impossible to have any periodicity in stars' position
How is that impossible?
And again, you're just repeating yourself, with the same arguments you've already made in this thread, like a broken record.
>>170389
>And again, you're just repeating yourself, with the same arguments you've already made in this thread, like a broken record
No U.
I have a better idea, instead of talking about something you know nothing about, why you don't plot the earth trajectory in a heliocentric setting and then find out where the stars are?
>And again, you're just repeating yourself, with the same arguments you've already made in this thread, like a broken record
No U.
I have a better idea, instead of talking about something you know nothing about, why you don't plot the earth trajectory in a heliocentric setting and then find out where the stars are?
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>>170388
>is impossible to have any periodicity in stars' position
Untrue. The stars have consistent positions because in the grand scheme of things we're not actually getting very much closer to any of them. The universe is so enormously vast that the amount the earth has moved in the history of humanity has made very little difference in terms of positions of the nearest stars.
>>170391
>why you don't plot the earth trajectory in a heliocentric setting and then find out where the stars are?
Pic related
There is an entire field of science devoted to tracking the position of the earth relative to the nearest celestial bodies.
>is impossible to have any periodicity in stars' position
Untrue. The stars have consistent positions because in the grand scheme of things we're not actually getting very much closer to any of them. The universe is so enormously vast that the amount the earth has moved in the history of humanity has made very little difference in terms of positions of the nearest stars.
>>170391
>why you don't plot the earth trajectory in a heliocentric setting and then find out where the stars are?
Pic related
There is an entire field of science devoted to tracking the position of the earth relative to the nearest celestial bodies.
>>170392
>The stars have consistent positions because in the grand scheme of things we're not actually getting very much closer to any of them.
Correct. This realm is fixed.
>The stars have consistent positions because in the grand scheme of things we're not actually getting very much closer to any of them.
Correct. This realm is fixed.
>>170391
>earth trajectory in a heliocentric setting
Are you asking for the trajectory of the Earth's or it around the sun, or the trajectory of the sun itself (and thus also the moon) around the center of the milky way?
>earth trajectory in a heliocentric setting
Are you asking for the trajectory of the Earth's or it around the sun, or the trajectory of the sun itself (and thus also the moon) around the center of the milky way?
Anonymous
No.170399
>>170396
Well, there are a lot simultaneous translations for a ball in a vacuum. Self spinning, relative to the sun, relative the cosmos. Then you may consider all of them.
Well, there are a lot simultaneous translations for a ball in a vacuum. Self spinning, relative to the sun, relative the cosmos. Then you may consider all of them.
>>170403
Most of them got bored and left.
>pounding this threa
If you make a thread and bump it periodically, people are going to respond.
Most of them got bored and left.
>pounding this threa
If you make a thread and bump it periodically, people are going to respond.
Anonymous
No.170405
heliocentrism is bullshit anons, theres no more reason to keep defending the imaginations of freemasons
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>>170432
The world revolves around Tia's giant ass: this is the true nature of heliocentrism. The earth (round) revolves around our sun, and the sun (projection of Celestia's holy plot) rises above Equestria (flat) when Tia claps her cheeks in the morning. Masons created both flat-earthers and general astrology to distract us from from the TRUTH about the cosmos, that Equestria is right beside us on the other side of the sun.
Embrace two-cheek theory.
The world revolves around Tia's giant ass: this is the true nature of heliocentrism. The earth (round) revolves around our sun, and the sun (projection of Celestia's holy plot) rises above Equestria (flat) when Tia claps her cheeks in the morning. Masons created both flat-earthers and general astrology to distract us from from the TRUTH about the cosmos, that Equestria is right beside us on the other side of the sun.
Embrace two-cheek theory.
OP
No.170453
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>SOLAR ECLIPSE BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA - (1:20 long)
>Thursday, July 2, 2019 from a roof of a building in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcOgqT-Pu0U
>Thursday, July 2, 2019 from a roof of a building in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcOgqT-Pu0U
Anonymous
No.170522
>>170379
>Nah, I considered that. There doesn't seem to be any exact match with abovesea geography.
>>170380
>Hang on. I saw a good presentation but long and geometrically convoluted, but kinda a geographical match nevertheless.
I was looking for the formal long presentation/lecture showing and explaining the moon/earth matches but I'm unable to find it for the time being. However I found the closest video on the subject, it has not the rigorous scientific content of the first one but it is close enough. This takes the moon map to a new level.
>Selenetical Physics Vol. 1: An Exercise in Visual Pattern Recognition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtM97zuMrfE
and
>Selenetical Physics Vol. 2: Reflections on the Electric Field
>Intro to the electric circuit of the moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL1bQS3kdk0
>Nah, I considered that. There doesn't seem to be any exact match with abovesea geography.
>>170380
>Hang on. I saw a good presentation but long and geometrically convoluted, but kinda a geographical match nevertheless.
I was looking for the formal long presentation/lecture showing and explaining the moon/earth matches but I'm unable to find it for the time being. However I found the closest video on the subject, it has not the rigorous scientific content of the first one but it is close enough. This takes the moon map to a new level.
>Selenetical Physics Vol. 1: An Exercise in Visual Pattern Recognition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtM97zuMrfE
and
>Selenetical Physics Vol. 2: Reflections on the Electric Field
>Intro to the electric circuit of the moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL1bQS3kdk0
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Anonymous
No.170533
Anonymous
No.170535
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All proofs that Earth is a spinning ball rely on un-testable claims.
>>170538
>but doesn't provide any reasons why/how, or even examples
It is meme. What you want is contained in tons of videos from multiple creators. I suggest you may begin with Eric Dubay's ones.
>but doesn't provide any reasons why/how, or even examples
It is meme. What you want is contained in tons of videos from multiple creators. I suggest you may begin with Eric Dubay's ones.
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>>170537
>>170539
>A list
>A meme
Okay haha clown world. This isn't something like E. It's not deep fried. It's not quadruple ironic.
Just a list. Anyone can make a list.
Normies can make a fucking list. They do it too!
What changes some bullshit into a meme is quite simple.
I'd share it but I have a hunch I've shared it before.
yogurt
It's in the name
If you're in you're in
Consider the humble meme farmer.
>>170539
>A list
>A meme
Okay haha clown world. This isn't something like E. It's not deep fried. It's not quadruple ironic.
Just a list. Anyone can make a list.
Normies can make a fucking list. They do it too!
What changes some bullshit into a meme is quite simple.
I'd share it but I have a hunch I've shared it before.
yogurt
It's in the name
If you're in you're in
Consider the humble meme farmer.
Anonymous
No.170543
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>Pastor Greg Locke - Flat Earth melt down # 3 - Debate Dec 2nd Nashville TN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T84zZs5nzc
This has got enormous entertainment value. The protestant self-righteous preacher, with guitars included in his church, suffers a nervous breakdown on The Bible passages describing this realm as being a plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T84zZs5nzc
This has got enormous entertainment value. The protestant self-righteous preacher, with guitars included in his church, suffers a nervous breakdown on The Bible passages describing this realm as being a plane.
>>170544
>A bad meme
An excellent one. It points straight to incongruencies in the heliocentric model.
>A bad meme
An excellent one. It points straight to incongruencies in the heliocentric model.
>>170547
It just says "evidence is contrary" on multiple points, but doesn't even bother to say how, summarize it, or even direct the reader to a "true" source where they could find it themselves.
It just says "evidence is contrary" on multiple points, but doesn't even bother to say how, summarize it, or even direct the reader to a "true" source where they could find it themselves.
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>>170552
Instead of focusing on his negativity, maybe think of why everyone else on this board is so tired of you.
Instead of focusing on his negativity, maybe think of why everyone else on this board is so tired of you.
>>170554
>sagging again
Maybe you could attend your own threads instead of getting obsessed with others' would bring you inner peace.
>sagging again
Maybe you could attend your own threads instead of getting obsessed with others' would bring you inner peace.
>>170556
>attend your own threads
It's not about the thread. It's about you. The way you behave, not only in this thread, but in all of the others, including ones that I made, both recently and less recently. You dump low-quality garbage and facebook-tier memes all over this board before derailing them with barely-related tangents.
Everypony is sick of you.
>attend your own threads
It's not about the thread. It's about you. The way you behave, not only in this thread, but in all of the others, including ones that I made, both recently and less recently. You dump low-quality garbage and facebook-tier memes all over this board before derailing them with barely-related tangents.
Everypony is sick of you.
>>170558
>It's about you.
Ah, it is personal so.
I'm afraid that I might not conform to your specs as you desire. Independent minds rarely do so, and it is natural that conformists like you lose their minds. Sorry, not much can be done about it. You may have to learn to deal with different opinions and approaches as life is not designed to cater your taste.
>It's about you.
Ah, it is personal so.
I'm afraid that I might not conform to your specs as you desire. Independent minds rarely do so, and it is natural that conformists like you lose their minds. Sorry, not much can be done about it. You may have to learn to deal with different opinions and approaches as life is not designed to cater your taste.
Anonymous
No.170561
>170560
>different opinions
>I might not conform to your specs
>conformists like you
He really doesn't get it...
>different opinions
>I might not conform to your specs
>conformists like you
He really doesn't get it...
Anonymous
No.170562
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Science.
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>>170582
I did the work of digging up the links, in case anybody cares to know more context than a single meme provides:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2022/08/03/do-we-need-the-first-ever-drop-second-a-new-wobble-by-earth-caused-the-shortest-day-since-records-began-say-scientists/amp/
https://www.independent.co.uk/space/earth-spinning-slower-day-length-b2140840.html
For the record, although the two headlines are conflicting, they're actually talking about the same phenomenon: the gradual deceleration of the Earth's rotation, and fluctuations thereof ala the Chandler Wobble (caused, of course, by Chris Chan's attempt to psionically bring about The Merge early from jail last year). Both articles are consistent with one another, probably prompted by the same news; it's just one is focused on the Chandler Wobble that offsets the general trend, and the other is focused on the gradual slowdown with the exceptional fluctuations caused by the wobble.
OP of course didn't bother to check the articles and instead just reposted a crappy meme that his Facebook algorithm recommended him with highlighted text as if that somehow alone proves that the earth is flat.
I did the work of digging up the links, in case anybody cares to know more context than a single meme provides:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2022/08/03/do-we-need-the-first-ever-drop-second-a-new-wobble-by-earth-caused-the-shortest-day-since-records-began-say-scientists/amp/
https://www.independent.co.uk/space/earth-spinning-slower-day-length-b2140840.html
For the record, although the two headlines are conflicting, they're actually talking about the same phenomenon: the gradual deceleration of the Earth's rotation, and fluctuations thereof ala the Chandler Wobble (caused, of course, by Chris Chan's attempt to psionically bring about The Merge early from jail last year). Both articles are consistent with one another, probably prompted by the same news; it's just one is focused on the Chandler Wobble that offsets the general trend, and the other is focused on the gradual slowdown with the exceptional fluctuations caused by the wobble.
OP of course didn't bother to check the articles and instead just reposted a crappy meme that his Facebook algorithm recommended him with highlighted text as if that somehow alone proves that the earth is flat.
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>>170583
>as if that somehow alone proves that the earth is flat.
Actually the lack of curvature demonstrates definitively that we are not living on a ball.
Neither you nor the fake scientists can beat that.
>as if that somehow alone proves that the earth is flat.
Actually the lack of curvature demonstrates definitively that we are not living on a ball.
Neither you nor the fake scientists can beat that.
>>170583
>I did the work of digging up the links
Imagine a faget so obsessed with insisting he was not deceived instead of accepting the overwhelming evidence that this realm is flat.
>I did the work of digging up the links
Imagine a faget so obsessed with insisting he was not deceived instead of accepting the overwhelming evidence that this realm is flat.
Anonymous
No.170588
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>>170587
What that to do with providing links?
>overwhelming evidence that this realm is flat
Lol, lmao even
What that to do with providing links?
>overwhelming evidence that this realm is flat
Lol, lmao even
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>>170585
>lack of curvature demonstrates definitively that we are not living on a ball
We've been showing you evidence of curvature from dozens of separate sources for more than two years now. You just refuse to acknowledge them because they contradict your worldview, or you call them fake without arguing for it. We've also refuted your claims to the contrary with eloquent and well-backed arguments, to which you just shit all over the board or pretend like you won by dumping your smug reaction image folder, and then go on to ignore the arguments themselves without addressing them because you know you can't. Then you wait a few weeks/months and post (redundant) memes parroting the same exact arguments that we refuted earlier in the thread, conveniently forgetting the prior argument which you failed to answer to.
Every couple weeks it's the same shit. You make an statement based on a shaky claim, you fail to refute the opposing argument, and then you forget it like it never happened and post the same thing again (as if we couldn't just scroll up to see it).
>lack of curvature demonstrates definitively that we are not living on a ball
We've been showing you evidence of curvature from dozens of separate sources for more than two years now. You just refuse to acknowledge them because they contradict your worldview, or you call them fake without arguing for it. We've also refuted your claims to the contrary with eloquent and well-backed arguments, to which you just shit all over the board or pretend like you won by dumping your smug reaction image folder, and then go on to ignore the arguments themselves without addressing them because you know you can't. Then you wait a few weeks/months and post (redundant) memes parroting the same exact arguments that we refuted earlier in the thread, conveniently forgetting the prior argument which you failed to answer to.
Every couple weeks it's the same shit. You make an statement based on a shaky claim, you fail to refute the opposing argument, and then you forget it like it never happened and post the same thing again (as if we couldn't just scroll up to see it).
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>>170591
Those circular maps are used in wars because they're more accurate for the northern hemisphere.
We know Hitler didn't believe the earth was flat, because he instead entertained the hypothesis that it could be hollow, and sent scouts to the North Pole to investigate the to hyperborea.
Those circular maps are used in wars because they're more accurate for the northern hemisphere.
We know Hitler didn't believe the earth was flat, because he instead entertained the hypothesis that it could be hollow, and sent scouts to the North Pole to investigate the to hyperborea.
Anonymous
No.170593
>>170592
>because he instead entertained the hypothesis that it could be hollow
I'm not aware of der Führer sending expeditions because of that.
But according to some, that idea makes sense indeed as the Black Sun is below.
>because he instead entertained the hypothesis that it could be hollow
I'm not aware of der Führer sending expeditions because of that.
But according to some, that idea makes sense indeed as the Black Sun is below.
Anonymous
No.170595
>>170592
Isn't the North Pole basically just water? Besides, you don't know he was looking for hyperborea. He probably just wanted to meet Santa Claus.
Isn't the North Pole basically just water? Besides, you don't know he was looking for hyperborea. He probably just wanted to meet Santa Claus.
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>>170603
>hurr durr monologue
You are like a baby. You failed to come up with a coherent response, so you once again resort to red herrings.
>hurr durr monologue
You are like a baby. You failed to come up with a coherent response, so you once again resort to red herrings.
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