/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

>>172842
Meant to post this video, but the point is the same.
Earth is a very special and beautiful place. It is unique among planets, a paradise.

>>172843
>no planes have EVER done the bullshit like you claim. no such flight path exists of going around the full circumference of the ball
They go halfway around, which is always the same distance. That's what an antipodal flight is.
Scroll up and see the list of flights: they all take the same amount of time, no matter what direction they leave from. How is this possible on a flat earth?
>look how they're trying hard
Elaborate. The map should be simple.
>when i already told you the first time
You never actually answered how it's possible.
>>172844
That's not what I said. They only go halfway around the earth. You'd know this if you bothered to research it before replying.
And regardless, how is it possible for flights to leave in four different directions and arrive at the same location in the same amount of time, unless the world is round? On a flat earth, they would take wildly different amounts of time. We even calculated the amount of time it would take earlier in the thread.

>>172844
There is no flight route that goes around the circumference of the earth, because nobody has any reason to spend a ton of fuel to arrive at the same location they left from.
Antipodal flights go halfway around the world, and they can leave from any direction and arrive at the same location in similar amounts of time.

>>172844
>>172843
>t. does not know what the word antipodal means
Lmao, brainlet.

>>172846
>they take the same amount of time
this doesnt support your case argument in anyway. you can find many large flight routes that have similar flight times, and no, they arent exactly the same times, and even if you can find 2 of the same flight path times that work on a globe model it STILL doesnt support your case. there cant be such thing as anti podal flights, because theres no south pole. theyre just large different flight paths that happen to have relatively similar times

>>172848
antipodal flights dont exist retard, because south pole and curvature doesnt exist. take your meds

>>172849
>you can find many large flight routes that have similar flight times
Yes. Most of those are antipodal flights, because they're all half the circumference of the earth.
Regardless, on a disk earth, those four flights should take wildly different amounts of time, as demonstrated in >>169477
If you can map those routes on a flat, circular map and have them be similar lengths, go ahead and show us.
>they arent exactly the same times
See >>169495
They are similar times, averaging about ~26 hours, despite leaving from completely different directions. How is this possible on a flat earth?
>there cant be such thing as anti podal flights
On a flat earth.
Nevertheless, the four flights from those two locations take the same amount of time no matter what direction they leave from. How are they doing that?
>it STILL doesnt support your case
It does, because four planes flying off in completely different directions and arriving within an hour of eachother isn't feasible on a flat earth.
>theyre just large different flight paths that happen to have relatively similar times
They are flight paths from and two the same location. On a flat earth, they should vary wildly
Go ahead and try to draw the lines with crayola crayons, and see how you can't make four planes leave in different directions and arrive at the same point by flying the same distance.

>>172850
I don't care what you call them. Fact of the matter is that you can fly in four different directions from Jakarta and arrive in Bogota in the same amount of time every flight, because it's the same distance. They can't be done on a flat earth.

>>172850
>take your meds
>implying
Lmao, the flat earther calling 99% of people schizos for disagreeing with him. That's rich.

>>172849
>that happen to have relatively similar times
How is that possible on a flat earth? The the southernmost flight should be over three times as long as the northernmost, if the world were flat.

>>172850
The flight themselves, which are very real and can be independently verified by the thousands of people who take them every year, are evidence of the earth being round. The flight that passed over Sydney would be 2-3 times as long on flat earth, but it's a negligible difference irl.
If they're not, map then out and show how they could possibly be the same distance on a flat earth. Draw the lines to show us all and prove it.

>>172852
This is basic geometry, there is no antipodal flight.
Let's have another approach to this problem, since you have to push your science I will push mine.
You don't contradict science fact. there's facts, go outside, look at what you see, look at the distance.
There are mountains there should not be visible on round Earth that are visible. There are cities visible from miles away that should not be visible, all of the things you see in distance are hidden with atmosphere's thickness.
I'm explaining facts, I expect you to listen or leave this thread. Go back to SP, or whatever place more suitable for you, if you're here you're coming to seek truth.
Other people provided enough evidence in the thread, instead of being stubborn please learn, read, study and think like an adult.
Flat Earth should just be called "world" to begin with, there is a LOT of things WE need to reveal to you but it requires an intellect ready to accept the cold truth. That you live in a lie and need to quit believing in it.

>>172853
Take meds. Not the Rx crap they give you for depression and for making you like they want you to be, I have been there, we have been there, refuse their meds. There's meds that will help you opening your mind. shrooms, weed, ask any open minded person and try not to call the cops. You need help, we need to help.

>>172855
Pardon, the pic didn't show the flight over Sydney.
How is it possible that this flight takes ~27 hours, like the rest of them?
>>172856
I don't care if you call them antipodal or not. How can you have four different direction flights from Jakarta to Bogota take the same amount of time on a flat earth?
>Subject changing
Stop avoiding the question. These flights are real. How do they work on flat earth?

>>172856
>There are mountains there should not be visible on round Earth that are visible. There are cities visible from miles away that should not be visible, all of the things you see in distance are hidden with atmosphere's thickness.
Which mountains and cities, and from what focal point? You're going to have to be more specific. Horizon distance matters, as does elevation.
>I'm explaining facts
Then explain the Jakarta-Bogota flights.
>I expect you to listen
I am listening. I await a response to my various unanswered questions. Start with the flights.
>leave this thread
Lol, this is coming from the faggot who's shit on nearly every political thread I've made for the past 3 years.
>Other people provided enough evidence in the thread
And I've been engaging and refuting the arguments the whole time.
>instead of being stubborn please learn, read, study and think like an adult.
I could say the same for you.
>but it requires an intellect ready to accept the cold truth. That you live in a lie and need to quit believing in it.
Ditto.

>there is a LOT of things WE need to reveal
Reveal how the Jakarta-Bogota flight that passes over Sydney arrives within an hour of the other three flights, despite going in a completely different direction. Enlighten me.

>>172837
It's all so tiresome.

[YouTube] F-16 Pilot: The Earth is Flat! [Embed]
Pilot says it's flat.

Atmosphere is the limit, space is fake
[YouTube] No Human Has Ever Left Earth’s Atmosphere, Here's Why [Embed]

"space" technology when it hits earth reveals being balloons
[YouTube] Space satellite falls into backyard in Saginaw County [Embed]

>>172857
Pilots lies to you, you need a military training to pilot a jet plane. All airliners are freemasons.

>>170713
It is impossible for boats being visible in this distance

[YouTube] Flat Earth "Science" -- Wrong, but not Stupid [Embed]
Scientist says it's not impossible

[YouTube] Is Earth Actually Flat? [Embed]
He makes good points, I like his videos, and there's a message they want to pass.

[YouTube] Flat Earthers Do Not Know How To Read The Bible [Embed]
No, it's not about the bible, I'm not religious, only a few are and gets all things mixed up, round earth, space, and science are religion, if we are atheist we trust what we see as reality and not bullshit.

[YouTube] How The Ancient Greeks Proved Earth Wasn't Flat 2,200 Years Ago [Embed]
"greek with a stick" it hasn't changed since, we have powerfull cameras, lasers and more things to debunk curvature but they retort you can prove earth is curved with poles.

[YouTube] Professor Dave Humiliates Flat Earther David Weiss (DITRH Debunked Live) [Embed]
All they can do as arguments are humiliating and ad hominem attacks.

[YouTube] Meeting & Interviewing A Flat-Earther! [Embed]
No it's not just a white guy's thing, there's more and more people across the world who knows and always knew.

>>172856
Why do you keep avoiding the questions? You're taking us for fools, thinking we don't notice how you dodge the questions.
You don't deny the existence of a flight from Jakarta to Bogota that passes over Sunday, do you? There's ways to verify that.
There's another flight that passes over Istanbul: it leaves in a completely different direction, almost opposite direction, and yet it still arrives at the same destination in the same time.
How is that possible on a flat earth? Without curvature of the world, it should be possible to fly in two different directions and arrive at the same destination at the same time.

>>172861
>All airliners are freemasons
Bold claim.
You can still independently verify when the planes land. The airlines can't triple the speed of a commercial airliner beyond its maximum velocity, or send it to a completely different location.
>Pilots lies to you
It doesn't matter what the pilots say. The time and place the planes arrive at is confirmed in real time. The thousands of people who take the flights can't all be paid actors.
>It is impossible for boats being visible in this distance
We already addressed this.
>Scientist
>Pilot
Appeals to authority, which is rich coming from you.
These are both individual anecdotes who happen to contradict thousands of others. They offer no good evidence.
>if we are atheist we trust what we see as reality and not bullshit
That's nothing more than John Locke style empiricism. Air, radio waves, etc, there are things in this world that you can't see.
The curve isn't visible from the surface of the earth because the earth is so immensely large. The earth is larger than you can imagine.
>ad hominem attacks
That's rich coming from the faggot who said "all airliners are masons" to avoid having to respond to the antipodal flights argument.
Still waiting for you to explain how those flights being the same distance is possible.
>No it's not just a white guy's thing, there's more and more people across the world who knows
So because niggers think the world is flat, it must be true? How niggerbrained of you.

>>172830
Just took a selfie, but there's clouds. Look at that.
Spoiler alert IT'S GONNA RAIN.

>>172837
The guy literally admits he's on drug, expect some poor, uneducated bloke, who identifies as white without being one.

Now have some more decent shots of >(You) freshly taken from space, twice the alti of the ISS (850Km) and really the camera is decent and can be art photo.

>>172854
some airline tickets give times that dont include layovers. please explain whats wrong with flight paths being southernmost or northernmost departure or landing, youre making zero sense
>>172855
here this goes a 3rd time, WHO THE FUCK CLAIMS THIS MODEL? because no one here ever claimed that model in your infograph. your ENTIRE ARGUMENT with posting this pic falls flat on its face for that reason
>>172868
can you replicate this photo for us? weve been asking this forever now but you keep ignoring it

>>172870
point your antenna and set your receiver at 137.9125 MHz. yes it's VHF it's shit but don't requires a dish.

https://www.dk3wn.info/wp/wetter/die-wettersatelliten/noaa-18/
where are they now? look!
https://www.n2yo.com/?s=28654
voilà, you're now using one more space thing.

>>172870
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>172867
>>172868
Nice and pretty.
>>172870
>the graphic representation determines the question.
Explain the Jakarta-Bogota flights, you don't need a visual aid.

>>172874
all you had to say was "no i cannot replicate the photo myself, im putting blind faith institutions". you have the burden of proof waiting
>>172880
youre asking me to explain something on a model i dont claim. irrelevant. try to stay focused on topic

>>172875
>did you verify the meme yourself?
I'm thinking if I should make a thread in /ga/ about this nigger.

>>172917
>proof
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>>172941
>too afraid of the poster turning your own words against you
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>172917
>you're asking me to explain how multiple planes go zoom.
>it just can't be done.
>it's impossible.
>what do you mean explain how planes get from point A to point B in similar amounts of time and distance?
>planes are just a m o d e l, it's against my beliefs to say planes are real.
Fucking incredible.
It's just about how the fuck planes get from point A to point B is the just about the same time and distance.
Put forth something that works.
>but things are work just don't exist
>you just have to have an e x p e r i e n c e dude.
>you have to radically isolate yourself, but i get to like not do that
>"no i cannot replicate the photo myself, im putting blind faith institutions"
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>172941
>Too shocked that enough is enough means something.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

This is the guy they sent in to debunk and do the propaganda job posting obvious CGI and call it a victory.

>>172917
What always baffles me is the determination and energy they spend in forever replies, I've discussed flat earth with all kind of people, many other places so far resulting in rather constructive polite and educated commentaries thanks to some having arguments in good faith and open mindedness, accepting different views but this place sounds different like they're organizing to be stubborn and deciding what answers should be posted, what direction, who should intervene and shout their ha, got em! Some people took that facts and logic so hard with nothing holding them back or limiting them to the point of having pride instead. And that’s one of the seven deadly sins. For pride always blinds. Like it figuratively gouges your eyes out that you can no longer open them to see.

>>173062
There is plenty of facts posted in this thread, but globtards refuse to acknowledge them as was posted 3 years ago >>148984

>>172863
>The thousands of people who take the flights can't all be paid actors.
You're only scratching the surface awaiting to find out how much effort the propaganda machine is pushing for supporting their narrative and fiction. There's planes flying circles over the ocean to pretend people travel for hours across the globe. Why do airports have security so high they scan you, file you and make sure to check your background when traveling? Why do planes have windows so small so we can't see if it's curved or not?

No one can NOT "cross the Antarctica".
[YouTube] Crossing Antarctica [Embed]

Moon reflects earth
[YouTube] Moon Map Photoshop Analysis - From Coffee Talk 87 April 3 2023 [Embed]

Many official science-oriented channels gives you hints
[YouTube] The Holographic Universe Explained [Embed]

And they try to pass a message
[YouTube] The Universe As You Know It Does Not Exist. Let me explain with a graph... [Embed]

Muslims tries to redpill us on the consensus and they're the "bad guys"
[YouTube] What does Islam say about the Sun in the Solar System - Mufti Menk [Embed]

The elite knows and tries to give you a hint right there in plain sight, Noble prizes tells you the big lie.
[YouTube] How Physicists Proved The Universe Isn't Locally Real - Nobel Prize in Physics 2022 EXPLAINED [Embed]

Horizon is infinite, all objects in the distance fades into blue
[YouTube] Como os Barcos Desaparecem no Horizonte (legendas pt-br) [Embed]

Hollywood debunking space itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQx9wI4y9w [Embed]

Again, no, Flat Earth isn't a religion and not linked to any.
[YouTube] Does The Bible Describe the Earth as Flat? [Embed]

Orbs are not "stars"
[YouTube] You've Never Seen A Star Do This - The Water above [Embed]

All of the images are CGI and are not evidence this is hilarious if not ridiculing their own narratives.
[YouTube] Debunking Round Earth Theory! 🌎✨ [Embed]

NASA is in trouble, Musk is the successor as minds are changing. It isn't a political debate either.
[YouTube] BREVARD County Speaker Puts NASA in the hot seat [Embed]

Healing will be necessary
[YouTube] Transform Depression With Ayahuasca [Embed]

>>173046
planes cruise at about 30,000ft altitude. the highest we cant go is about 125,000ft with altitude balloons. youre not serious are you nigger? no airplanes going to catch any curvature of the earth, let alone no curvature is detected at the 125k height. so why are you going off on a tangent about airplanes exactly? please do explain
>>173062
that is the curse of pride and sadly very few will break from it. the saddest part is some of the most intelligent anons I know post on /mlpol/, so i would think minds attract like minds. They take such a fast dive into political information, and do a good job at extrapolating what is true from it all. But in doing so they are just working with what has been given to them, and their priorities arent exactly serving their own interests. their intentions are very good.

both sides here want to make redpilled horsepussy posts, but were both at contention at how much we can attract waves of newfags to our cause. they believe were repelling the newfags, because flat earthers are fighting the machine itself. both the globers and newfags that come here are still defending and serving the machine, because its all theyve ever know to work with for the cause

>>173066
It's not about whatever other stuff you've said, that's mudding the water.
Planes from Jakarta can take multiple different routes to reach the same end destination of Bogota at the same time and vis-versa.
Here's the post for good measure >>172832
Show how that's possible on any flatearth model.
If it's real that flatearth model can do it.

>>173063
>I'll start projecting that'll show them!
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>>173062
>Why aren't they rolling over and rejecting what's true for what I say?
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>>173064
>It's all propaganda! Everything is propaganda! Trust everything I say.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>>173066
>Why are smart people not submitting to what we say? Obviously we're correct because we say it enough times.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>173069
no they cant. theres only one line flying from one place to the other in a straight direction. take meds
>>173070
youre reply did exactly what i described you guys do, its the curse of pride. i know youre poking fun by calling yourselfs smart but its just immature and lame

>>173071
>no they can't
So the only explanation is that it's a globe. Good Game, maybe try a bit more next time.

>>173071
>stooopp. please stop. i can't take it anymore.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>>173061
> F U C K
> Y O U
>
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>173072
you claimed you can fly in both directions and end up in the same spot, not me retard. what you said is false

>>173074
How so?

>>172917
>something on a model i dont claim
You claim that the earth is flat and surrounded by an ice ring, right? That's the model presented.
>irrelevant
No, it is relevant. It's proof of curvature.
>focused on topic
The debate is the topic.
>>172941
>I'm thinking if I should make a thread in /ga/ about this nigger.
If you meant /qa/, I dare you to. I'm not him, but I know how it will go.
>>173062
>This is the guy they sent in to debunk
DT has been a member of this site community for five times as long as you have, newfag.
>but this place sounds different like they're organizing to be stubborn
You're free to leave if you don't like it here.
>deciding what answers should be posted, what direction, who should intervene and shout their ha, got em!
We are a close-knit community built up over years of pony fandom comradery and /pol/ memes. We are skilled debaters and shitposters because we were raised on 4chan. I wouldn't expect a newfag Facebook boomer to understand.
>For pride always blinds. Like it figuratively gouges your eyes out that you can no longer open them to see.
This is the nigger calling the kettle black.
>>173063
There you go posting redundant images again. And you wonder why everyone on this site hates you, when you refuse to adopt chansite culture or basic poster etiquette.
Lurk moar, faggot.
>>173064
>For pride always blinds. Like it figuratively gouges your eyes out that you can no longer open them to see.
This should be pretty easy to prove in that case. Have flat earthers tried? Have you tried taking those flights and recording them? That should be within your budget range if you want to disprove it.
All of those flight logs are public. You could stand outside the airport and watch the planes take off, without even being inside them. You could track where they go, because they're observable from the ground.
Fabricating those flights is logistically impossible to conceal, and no flat earther has ever tried to disprove it. You just go screeching about Masons and demand John Locke tier empirical evidence by denying anything that you don't personally see, without even attempting to go see it for yourself, even though it's in reach.
>Why do airports have security so high they scan you, file you and make sure to check your background when traveling?
A product of the war on terror.
Those flights still existed in the 90s before airport security increased.
>Why do planes have windows so small so we can't see if it's curved or not?
Commercial airliners don't fly high enough to see the curve of the earth anyway.
The windows are small to save money and ensure safety on a pressurized aircraft, and also to give every aisle a window.
>>173071
>theres only one line flying from one place to the other in a straight direction.
[citation needed]
There are four different flight paths. They pass over populated and tens of thousands of people participate. You could take all four of those flights yourself. In the link provided you can even see when the planes are taking off and schedule flights.
>take meds
More projection.
>its just immature
You're on a chansite dedicated to discussing the viscosity of Pinkie Pie's vaginal fluids. Idk what you expect.
>>173074
I claimed that. I proved it with independently verifiable evidence from multiple sources. You did not even try to disprove the existence of the flights, which you now claim are completely fabricated for no reason other than that they contradict your worldview.
I challenged you on an intellectual debate thinking that you would produce good faith arguments and intelligent counters, but all you have done is delay, deny, and and dodge the questions.

>>173075
dont ask me how to explain your flatearth.ws meme
>>173077
you showed a model that just assumes what we claim about continental placement and size. thats called a strawman. you showed zero sources for antipodal flights besides the meme website psyop flatearth.ws. there are international flights and then there are layovers. cope about it.

still waiting for the part where you conduct your own experiment to find curvature. STILL not done yet

Some more flight routes.

>>173078
>you showed a model that just assumes what we claim about continental placement and size
The model I posted was consistent with the picture in the OP, as well as several of the flat, circular maps that flat earthers in this thread have posted. If this is not consistent with your worldview, explain what your worldview actually is so that we can have this debate. Surely, you have at least one map or picture that demonstrates the world as you believe it to be. If you don't have a picture, do your best to put it in words.
>you showed zero sources for antipodal flights besides the meme website psyop flatearth.ws
Scroll up and look again. I posted flight paths from the airlines themselves using airline trackers, and I can post even more sources if that's what you're challenging me to do.

And regardless of the "model", it should not be possible for four different planes to leave im different directions, passing over different continents, and arrive at the same location with near identical travel times on ANY fat, disk-shaped world that has Antarctica as it's surrounding ice wall and the north pole st it's center. Try drawing the lines yourself on a map that represents your worldview.

>>173079
These maps are almost identical to the maps that showed the Jakarta-Bogota flights.
That's fine though. Now we have a consensus on what your worldview is. Now, using one of those maps, show how those flight paths can be drawn over the map, passing over the relevant cities and continents, and still have the same distance overall. It should take you only a few minutes on gimp/photoshop to draw the lines.

>>173080
>using airline trackers
this isnt evidence in your case. you can track airlines and place the lines on any map you like. this doesnt make your globe reality. try again
>And regardless of the "model", it should not be possible for four different planes to leave im different directions, passing over different continents, and arrive at the same location with near identical travel times on ANY fat, disk-shaped world that has Antarctica as it's surrounding ice wall and the north pole st it's center. Try drawing the lines yourself on a map that represents your worldview.
explain the pics. you only care about using the flat earth model when you find an inconsistence with it, even though it still works better than your fake cartoon globe

>>173081

>>173080
also, models are presentations. you can present and use a model without knowing its full certainty. all maps are scale models of reality, yours just lacks prediciton power the most

>>173085
>this isnt evidence in your case. you can track airlines and place the lines on any map you like
You've missed the point. The only thing that matters is what direction the planes leave in, what cities they pass, and when they arrive. All of these variables are independently verifiable.
Also, those pics don't depict the Jakarta-Bogota flights. Show what the Jakarta-Bogota flights would look like in your worldview.
>you only care about using the flat earth model when you find an inconsistence with it
And you don't care about inconsistencies? Inconsistencies that demonstrate impossible events on flat earth should be proof that the earth are not flat.
>even though it still works better than your fake cartoon globe
Then prove it. Draw the Jakarta-Bogota lines with similar distances on your flat map. It works fine on a globe map. If it works better on your flat map it should be easy to prove.
>you can present and use a model without knowing its full certainty.
It doesn't need to be certain, it just needs to be addressed. This would be the case on any flat/circular map, because all circles have the same geometry. The models in the pics I posted all gave similar geography to the pics you've been posting now, so it should be easy to draw the lines.
>yours just lacks prediciton power the most
My (global) map predicts that these planes that fly over different continents from the same point arrive at the same location within an hour of each other.
I am giving you the opportunity to do the same with your own map. Does it have the same predicting power?

>>173087
planes have stops and can go any direction to get to stops. not sure what youre getting at. youre the one not caring about inconsistencies with all international flight paths, the thing you keep ignoring.
>My (global) map predicts that these planes that fly over different continents from the same point arrive at the same location within an hour of each other.
I am giving you the opportunity to do the same with your own map. Does it have the same predicting power?
you can make paths on a flat surface and they can meet up. why do you think all 4 bases on a baseball field are connected?

>>173088
>planes have stops and can go any direction to get to stops.
So how do these planes arrive within an hour of eachother, for what according to a disc model would be significantly different distance?
>not sure what youre getting at
Holy shit, I've said it 20+ times at this point.
>youre the one not caring about inconsistencies with all international flight paths, the thing you keep ignoring.
Answer the questions about the Jakarta-Bogota flights, and then we'll move onto the others.
>you can make paths on a flat surface
Do it.
>and they can meet up.
With the same/similar distance? Prove it. Draw the lines and measure them.
>why do you think all 4 bases on a baseball field are connected?
Completely different shape, and not relevant to the Jakarta-Bogota flights.

>>173089
already answered the question, you cant read obviously. tell us when and where there is detectable curvature of the ground, you havent done so. nothing you said proves anything about flight paths forming around a curvature. you just keep screaming "SaMe DiStAnCE" which means nothing, thats why i brought up the baseball field anology but you completely missed the point on what the anaology meant. why are all lines on the 4 bases the same distance?

>>173091
>already answered the question
Point to the post where you answer the questions (plural).
>you havent done so
Yes we did, lol.
>nothing you said proves anything about flight paths forming around a curvature
I demonstrated an observable phenomena that is only possible on round earth, and challenged you to come up with an alternative explanation/map for it. You did not produce an explanation/map.
>"SaMe DiStAnCE" which means nothing
It does, for the reasons stated above.
>baseball field anology
Apples to oranges. Draw lines on the map and show how they work on flat earth.

Also, for the record, if you leave along the any of the lines of a baseball field, you'll get there slower than if you just cut across the middle of the field, because you moved at a 45° angle different. Your own example demonstrates the flaw in your logic.
>the anaology
Use a map, not an analogy.

>>173093
scroll up to read the replies, not going to go in circles for you. you keep ignoring the answers like a fucking troll, just like how right now you avoid the answer of WHERE THE FUCK detectable curvature is. no phenomenon you points to says anything about the ground curving.

why the fuck did you bring up cutting across the field? total retard non sequitur. all the lines are the same distance. stop going off track

>>173094
>scroll up to read the replies, not going to go in circles for you. you keep ignoring the answers like a fucking troll
None of those replies have a chart with the flight paths for the Jakarta-Bogota flights on a flat earth map. You are evading the point at hand.
>answer of WHERE THE FUCK detectable curvature is
I just gave you an example.
>stop going off track
>why the fuck did you bring up cutting across the field?
Because planes can fly in any direction, so obviously the diagonal distance, which is significantly shorter than the others, is a viable path to take.
Why

>>173095
none of us ever claimed a model, we claim the discription of the grounds surface which is appears non curving around a 3959 mile radius, water seeks it level.

please give me a number, an experiment ANYONE can conduct themselves WITHOUT relying on institutions blindly. at what height can you detect curvature of the earth? news flash: ZERO GLOBERS HAVE ANSWERED THIS CORRECTLY
>Because planes can fly in any direction, so obviously the diagonal distance, which is significantly shorter than the others, is a viable path to take.
what "diagonal distance"? diagnonal relative to what? no one ever said shit about diagonal

>>173096
>none of us ever claimed a model, we claim the discription of the grounds surface which is appears non curving around a 3959 mile radius, water seeks it level.
You just described a model.
>at what height can you detect curvature of the earth?
Surface level. Medieval trebuchet users factored it into calculations.
>diagonal distance
The distance cutting across the field.

>>173097
flat = discription of surface, not model
>Surface level. Medieval trebuchet users factored it into calculations.
no they didnt liar. that calculation would require a presumption for no good reason. theres no experiment that proves this and you will not show it cause it doesnt exist.
>The distance cutting across the field.
okay what about a diamond shape? perhaps theres reasons why we cant fly directly over the north pole? too much electric distrubance near the north pole for planes to handle

This place is a honeypot or infiltrated by big gov shills. No one defends the globe this hard.

>>173101
I would say commie infiltrators. They are the same ones denying that virology is a fraud and getting hyper-triggered by the covid saga.

>>173101
>>173103
I have hardly ever encountered a community who's this narrow-minded and skeptic and this aint even the worst thread on a so-called esoteric chan. I even held more civil conversation with atheist and science lovers when discussing the paradigm of truth being what we perceive and there's no objective reality beyond our reference point which makes sensorial perception valid. I don't know to engage. The anon who keeps saying " do you verify the meme" must have driven their teachers insane in school.

>>173104
>The anon who keeps saying " do you verify the meme" must have driven their teachers insane in school.
I don't know that but I positively know he feels entitled to shit on this tread because he and a couple of frens hate OP. So petty as that.

>>173101
Oh yeah, it's totally a glownigger nest. The jannies disable IP hashing just for you.
You should leave as soon as possible, for your own safety.

>>173106
>The jannies disable IP hashing just for you
I understand the mlpol's code won't permit that.
>>173105
BTW, after more than 2k replays, the haters should come to terms that cockblocking this thread won't accomplish anything. I'll keep shitposting no matter what.

>>173107
>I understand the mlpol's code won't permit that.
We are told.

>>173104
>narrow-minded and skeptic
You can thank OP for burning goodwill.
>paradigm of truth being what we perceive and there's no objective reality beyond our reference point
Truth is immutable nobody fucking has the whole picture except God. As in there is objective Truth.
There's also personal perception which is a description of experience, which is true that experience did happen not the validity in full everywhere.
You're trying to assert that perception is enough that subjective truth wins over objective truth.
That's false, and that is why leaving you to peddle the subjective truth is the only real true thing is damaging.
Why?
Because nobody would be able to do anything that just requires knowledge that can only be gained that our senses as is can't deal with.
>Oh but Nikon camera
Accepting a tool to expand what is seen, but how do you know what it sees and what you see is in fact reality.
This whole thing is the thought experiment of Maxwell's Daemon, its just some other being feesing you experience after experience how could you even know the difference between it and reality.
What Maxwell came to, is a Trust in God that reality and you being you is true.
>I don't know to engage
You can start with answering the plethora of questions about how shit works in flatearth.
Because alot of everyday stuff simply doesn't work in flatearth all together.
The question is how useful is it?
So far it's actively harmful, there are no positives that it brings that work.
Because all the shit everyone does occurs flatearth can't be true. Nothing on large scales would function.
>Why won't you accept our cult like fascination?
I considered it long ago as an experiment and verified how the world works.
Pony shaped planet is still more accurate than flatearth.
>But you can't trust anybody else except us!
I considered that too and frankly it's just doing the whole Maxwell's Daemon again.
>Why do holololo memes work, but flatearth doesn't?
Flatearth just isn't true. Maybe it's fun to briefly think of that as one possible interpretation of reality, but it doesn't work. It can't be proven true.
In the objective search for truth, the objective truth, flatearth fails so does every member in trying to find the objective truth.
The objective truth doesn't care about feelings or if that answer is disagreeable. It can be continually tested and still show what it shows.
Flatearth doesn't withstand the vicious and vigorous testing.
The 9 Gorillion, has obvious strange and dumb things that contest what is known about how objective reality functions.
It's been tested, viciously, vigorously, relentlessly, everywhere and every defense utterly destructed.
Why the fuck haven't you all been trying?
If this is what trying for flatearth is, please stop. Your lackadaisical methodology is anti-persuasive to anybody forged in the fires of truth.
>I don't get why our memes are considered bad to everyone else?
They don't have the harder, hotter, sharper, awe inspiring truth in it.
You have some surface level swill at best.
>Why are you so interested in pushing back?
I don't want this stronghold of truth to be compromised.
You're subjective wishy washy methodology can't forge the deep, vital truths of this life. It can't embed hard impenetrable truth into your being.
It can't withstand in the arena of truth.
It fails, the Truth confirmed by God almighty doesn't.
People might not ever get to what is fundamentally True, but we can try. That methodology you bring will hinder that.
If you all played by the Truth Finding rules of debate we wouldn't be here. But it would mean that you'd see exactly how well flatearth withstands.
Or you all could have gone the fun posting route expanding the creativity and odd-ball mimd expanding thinking.
Or you all could have embraced pony.
Neither was taken, so this thread stands as to the shallow level of advertisement vs the combined methodical penetrative Truth Finding of hoerse fuckers.
So spam for spam our spam is categorically better than yours.
>>173107
>Didn't even try debating.
>Just spammed shit tier images.
>I won because I don't care about anybody else in this community
Why the fuck are you here?

>>173109
>You can start with answering the plethora of questions about how shit works in flatearth.
You never debated in good faith, dishonesty is you brand. See >>173063

>>173111
>I'm going to project what I do to you, it's what the R.F.R. says to do.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>173111
You've never debated in good faith either.
Answer his fucking questions. All the unanswered questions make you look like a total hack. If you addressed all of the arguments and questions eloquently and completely, maybe people would take you more seriously.

>>173111
You never debated in good faith, dishonesty is you brand.

[YouTube] Why flat earthers scare me [Embed]
Wow WOW AGAIN Not even 24 hours ago I was looking for content and this scientist came on my first search results and now that video just came out
You're going to assume me it's all a coincidence (not) This place _is_ monitored.

>>173115
Horse fuckers are always ahead of the curve. Just like the origin donors.
Which may look like /mlpol/ is the actual zeitgeist of world culture.
But it's statistics and search reinforcement. Look for more stuff and it'll keep on trying to feed more of that stuff.
Anyway.
If you know the large scale patterns and genuine reasons why they appear you won't ever be extremely surprised. Maybe shocked, but it's all rather mundane at this point.
I can't see the future, but I have some estimations.
God always blows what I expect out of the water.
I know what they know, but they don't know what God knows.
It's all fuzzy logic and rational (if flawed) logical chains. Remove ethics from the consideration and you too can predict what the movers and shakers want to try to do too.

>>173115
The hell are you smoking? Someone posts a video on youtube during the same week people have an argument on the Internet, and you think they're connected?
>This place _is_ monitored.
Then leave.

>>173115
>another one of thousands of videos on flat earth
>must be spies
You never debated in good faith, dishonesty is you brand.

>>173115
>Flat Earthers lack scientific education
What a fat liar. Flat Earthers are the most read on sciene, on the oher hoof, her audience, the normies, have no clue about physics and take her baloney as authoritative.

>>173115
>this scientist came on my first search result
>"this scientis"
That's a good one.

>>173119
So you're going to answer any questions or just say how great you are?

>>173119
You can't even draw lines on a map to prove your point.

>>173119
>sciene
>oher
>baloney
Oh yeah, you're really well-read alright.
Imagine being this retarded.

>>173119
>>173115
I can't tell if you're trolling or genuinely retarded.

>>173116
globally speaking yes the mlp fandom is rather smart. I don't even think these mongs come here for ponies, just to vomit dumb rhethorics to think we will believe a pseudoscience.

>>173213
>I don't even think these mongs come here for ponies
The boomer doesn't post ponies in any context other than to dump the reaction image folder that he downloaded from somewhere.

>>173116
Fuck off. (((You))) have reached the second lowest stage of uselessness: willfully becoming a dipshit bandwagoning goy. Pack up your pigshit retardation, then go back to plebbit, soycialpol, or whatever intellectual cesspool cucked you into losing all logic and reason.

>>163904
>>166137
DM is more than disputed, it must stop, it was not detected on expected, possible forms. I think, and I'm certain for studying the question very seriously, that it's literally a mirage. The billions spent on it could have been distributed on various other projects, it deserves a whole topic about why people no longer trust science, I wrote a thing about it or two.

General relativity works on every scale. A JEW
Newton's law works on our scale, could be different in bigger scales. A long time ago Mordecai Milgrom OH NO ANOTHER JEW came with an idea, to adjust a little bit Newton's F=ma formula.

>>163905
>>163908
Gravity works as is, wanna try? You will never be RainbowDash, if you test it it will punish you by deadly force or proportional pain to your idiocy - but there is a small detail to be added or completed that fixes the thing at say, 98%.

The rest? Can be explained by general relativity, on a huge scale the density of stars, gas, matter in the center of galaxies curves space and time itself.

That's going to sound crazy but time doesn't elapse the same in a constellation in the center of the milky way as it does on the outer arms, the same way you have a few microseconds lag between satellites and earth's stations.

About string theory, nah. Higgs field buried any possibility to string theory to be realistic. Go check THAT JEW who came up with Modified Newtonian Dynamics. it's not a huge modification but will explain a few things in space. Again it's theory but Jonathan Oppenheim, OH NO ANOTHER JEW would agree to stop with the quantum bullshit other than in femto scales.
I mean, come on, I read things associated with quantum mechanics that would makes Paul Dirac A FRENCH HON HON spin in his grave.

Last thing would rather be the age of the universe itself, I'd say it tends to an infinity, but not 13,7 to 14 billion years, but that's because of George Lemaitre A CHRISTIAN who came up with the idea of a big bang.

Guess that's it, if I'm not clear feel free to ask. Flatters should just be ignored, plain and simple but this topic is funny anyways.

>>166807
chatGPT just aggregates the bullshit it finds to make more bullshit, just like every AI, it's just a lazy way to research and an amplifier of bullshit. also fine tuned by the company to push the agenda they want.

>>173219
He's right you know. Also,
>goes to Derpibooru
You don't belong here.

>>173220
>revisionist apologetics
lmao you cant make this up. yep mlpol is definitely on glownigger watch.

remember anons, always demand tangible evidence for the 3959 mile radius. watch how they try squirm and dodge this

>>173221
>mlpol is definitely on glownigger watch.
Oh no! We've been spotted! Now we will lose valuable posters and this thread will die!

>>173221
>you cant make this up. yep mlpol is definitely on glownigger watch
Then why are you here?

>>173220
>>Guess that's it, if I'm not clear feel free to ask.
Yes I do have several questions and I have no idea which one to start with.

>>173221
DT has been here longer than you, newfag.

>>173219
I honestly unsure what is the thing with you, or you are getting paid, or you suffer from the fluoride/vaccination combo.

>>173115
That zog hack can feel it.

>>173227
Fake news

>>173228
>meme tracker
Good boy, you may rightfully claim your paycheck now.
>>>/leftypol/

>>173229
Lol, assblasted

>>173230
No matter how you spin it, you are being paid.

>>173231
I wish, but nah. I dab on you as an act of public service.

>>173232
>coping
Let me assist you.

>>173233
>projecting
Lmao, stay mad nigger.

I sure do hate not having IDs enabled.
>>173221
Behold!
How big is a man!
>>148980
>>148982
>>149110
>>149116

>>173227
>>173229
>I don't verify anything if it'a true according to what I believe.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>173236
He complains about sources not being verified, and then he posts bullshit and gets defensive when others verify it. He is such a hypocrite.

>>173238
The only purpose of the nigger spamming this thread with "did you verify the meme yourself?" is to shut down Flat Earth posting. Go figures why.

>>173239
He's doing it to annoy you over your hypocrisy, and it appears that he's succeeding by the looks of it.
Stay mad.

>>173240
Suuuuuuuuuuure. It is personal.

>>173241
>Reddit filename.
Go back there.

>>173242
>Reddit filename
You're indeed a delusional cocksucker. I just renamed it myself.

Sure you did.

>>173244
I did.

>I totally took a screenshot right before posting this pic, just to prove that I renamed it
Desperate redditor.

>>173241
>baseless claims in every way
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>>173243
>>173245
>Aw sheeit I better start doubling down on my lies.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

Butthurt detected

>>173248
>Not even presenting as she glares as you won the race fair and square.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>173250
>as you won the race fair and square
Refusal to engage in a pointless I did vs you didn't is the smart move anon.

>>173251
He gave me the cold shoulder.
Looking back it's the same old same old. It's a real shame I was hoping to be proven wrong.

>>172838
>>173251
Disgusting tranny. Filthy infected axe wound, maggot-ridden Frankengina. Your kind will be eradicated.

>>173252
>He gave me the cold shoulder.
Perhaps it is all you deserve.

>>173253
Gondola wearing panties is not so bad. LOL

>173256
YWNBARW

>>172838
>Genital and chemical mutilations are the real gender bigot!
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI
>>173254
>Crying on the inside, but posts the smug mask.
did you verify the meme yourself? if not then how can you claim its real? youre obviously appealing to your own authority, and CGI is the only thing it can be. not real = therefore fake, and must be CGI

>>173220
Hold up. That cuckoid glowie is also a derpicuck? HAH. ACTUALLY FUCKING WOW. It's getting harder to even separate how much of a bitch he is.

>>173226
All forms of fluoride, whether elemental, semi-synthetic, synthetic, combined, or otherwise, are: highly toxic, highly poisonous, and highly mutagenic substances. Or are you STILL too retarded? No, not really. (((You))) are a paid schill. 0.02 shekels per post, or has that increased a tiny amount since the 2016 ShariaBlue frenzy? Goodest goyim is (((You))), fuckboi.

As for the genetically engineered deathjab containing large amounts of graphene, lead, mercury, arsenic, cadmium, aluminum, and other nasty shit? lol. rofl. roflmao. lulz especially.

Fuck no. (((You))) are a total fuckwit. Get out while you still can, glowie. There's a lot of new black book going around, and there's a high chance that (((you))) are listed in one of the top fifty. Stay weak, goy hypocrite.

We don't even look at the 1871, 1893, 1909, 1911, 1913, 1917, 1921, 1926, 1928, 1931, 1933, or any later pigshit. Why? The names, faces, and addresses of each and every single traitor is added, minute by minute, that (((you))) failures exist. Ruby Ridge and Waco created a million each. What do you think is about to happen, soygoyboi?

Hint: we win. And you fucking lose. Better start remembering how to Heil.

>>173260
>pic 3
>why is NASA lying to you?
This is actually a pretty good question. Even if the earth actually were flat and the entire body of science dealing with the subject were just an elaborate ruse…why? What would be the purpose of going to that much trouble to con everyone into thinking the world is a different shape than it is?

>>173262
What the actual fuck are you talking about, you absolute lunatic?

>>173264
>why?
1-800-WHY-NASA

>>173264
>>173260
I do believe that NASA has been lying, or at least it did during the cold war, but not about stupid things like the shape of the earth or the existence of space. The real lies were that all of the research dedicated to space exploration was also a front for ICBM development (a lot of rockets used by NASA are indeed made for ICBMs) and the orbital satellite systems that were necessary for military communications and mass surveillance and global telecommunications. The actual space race was never about exploring the cosmos, but about militarizing space before the Soviets could. NASA has made scientific innovations for cutting edge military weaponry, and has done so with support of the public because people are much more in favor of scientific endeavors that help us understand the universe than they are about building continent-wrecking nukes and satellites that can track their every move.
That being said, among all of the overpriced gay bullshit the government does, NASA is just a tiny drop in the bucket, and it's one of the things I like a bit more.

>>173266
Not an answer. If you honestly believe the earth is flat and the government/NASA/freemasons/lizard people/whoever are lying to us, I want to know what you believe the purpose of such a ridiculously complicated and expensive undertaking could possibly be. If you can’t or won’t answer, then you are full of shit, retarded, and this entire thread is fake and gay.

>>173267
Thank you, this at least is plausible. I also suspect the space program is largely a military project.

>>173268
>Not an answer.
Seriously? If you want an answer don't wait any longer, pick the damn phone up and ask them.

>>173270
He's asking (You). Explain your position.

>>173271
>position
That's the wrong subject.
This thread is about the lack of curvature of this realm and you faggots want to derail it over and over again by taking it to the personal terrain. Stick to the facts.

>its this difficult to show observation of curvature and tangible measurememt for the 3959 mile radius
I guess that concludes it. Im still curious about the motive to blindly trust NASA even though you also agree they lie all the time

>>173272
You claim there is a conspiracy. People are skeptical of such a conspiracy that would require so much trouble without a motive. What is the motive that you propose.
So far you have claimed:
>All space research agencies are fake
>Some third of international flights are fake/staged
>Pilots of these flights are paid off, the thousands of passengers are paid actors
>the cold war wasn't real and the space race was fake
>the Antarctica is not a continent, but a 78,229 mile circumference ice wall, and that every mile of it is heavily guarded so much that nobody would even consider trying
>All legal scientists/tourists that go to Antarctica are just fake actors
>all the illegal fishermen/whalers that go there are also paid actors
>all countries cooperate with this conspiracy, putting aside their differences to conceal the truth
>all photos of the earth/space (tens of thousands taken each year) are fake CGI that even the best forensics software can't debunk
>Flights over Antarctica are fake, and even if you go on one of these flights it's not really Antarctica
>Antipodal flights are fake, and only done at all to conceal the truth
>Starlink satellites that cost tens of millions of dollars and are as big as a school bus are actually just weather balloons, and Elon Musk has to replace them every few weeks as they fall out of the sky (something that would cost tens of billion of dollars every month).
>Records of Medieval trebuchet calculations that took the curvature of the earth into effect are also fake (trivial fake history, just because?)
All of this would require hundreds of trillions of dollars worth or resources to pull off, as well as time and effort that would eclipse all other priorities of the parties involved, as well as their total cooperation and precise communication. It's logistically implausible, and idk why anyone would try such a thing.

What is the motive for such an expensive and difficult conspiracy? Why would anyone go through all of that trouble? And if they have the power and resource to go through all of that trouble, why couldn't they get the same results through easier means?
People aren't going to believe you if you can't give them a motive.

To be honest I love people who question truth, people who doubt, it's important to be skeptic on evrerything and devend unconventional ideas, however from what I analyze from this post, and again I'm zero sociologist or psychologist, not even dropping a diagnosis but an interpretation or an attempt to understand how such reasoning is possible, but anyways, this is like observing a sample of >SOCIETY in a petri dish.

First to get what's going on, I assume It's important to say how postmodernist society have subtly but clearly influenced our cultural landscape, and individual thought processes for decades, through media, games, pop culture, music and more social activism that has been going on for a long time, and as we know, led to the growing idiocracy we have to deal with today. This obseessional behavior flat earthers have is a perfect example, and may you like it or not, I'm going to expose how you, Flat Earther, you are the byproduct of the zog you pretend to fight, by becoming literally, a wokeist faggot - I'll explain, if you have the courage to continue and dare bringing your counter argument.

In short, postmodernism, a philosophical movement that gained traction in the second part of the 20th century on the ashes of WW2, motivated by figures like Foucault, Vonnegut, Derrida, DeBeauvoir and fucking Sartre of course. They introduced a wave of skepticism towards grand narratives and objective truth, deconstruction, individualism and destruction of establismhent (to make room for a new one). Instead, this emphasized subjective perspectives and the idea that knowledge is shaped by cultural, historical, and social contexts, putting evidence and cartesian approach in the dumpster.

That shift in perspective is seen in every aspects of our society like a proliferation, if not industrial manufacturing of alternative viewpoints and skepticism towards established scientific principles, and various other things we thoguht that were common sense but are lost. Postmodernism, in its theory and in the early versions (Thanks to Heidegger's critics on modernity) could be summed up as ‘question authority and challenge the narratives’, which in some cases can lead to a sane debate of hardcoded beliefs, which I am the first to say it's necessary. On the other hoof, it also create a fertile ground for the emergence of absolute bullshit, and in a worse measure, the political usage of these absolute lies. We can see how far it went since the war in Iraq, about gender, about education, anticapitalism, climate alarmism, history revision blaming our civilization for all of the woes of mankind, emotion over logic and more lies that became laws.

<“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying,
<they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too,
<they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying.
<In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.”
<Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Many points, postmodernism suggests that truth is relative and shaped by someone's own interpretations which can lead some individuals to prioritize personal beliefs over widely accepted scientific evidence, or reality itself, viewing their perspective as valid. And you now have hugboxes and online hordes to back up and team up these with “you are so valid!”.

With its deconstruction narrative it does encourages skepticism against traditional authority figures and institutions, mostly religion, traditions, culture but also scientific establishment, now everyone interpret this skepticism as license to dismiss mainstream scientific consensus, preferring alternative explanations that resonate with their worldview or the one they imagined, like flat earth, inner world, transgenderism, therianthropism, chakras, aliens, universe as a simulation, and people love it because it makes them feel smart, because everyone else is dumb. All that ironically distracts them from awful truths and that's the goal of these dumb conspiracies, because oh trust me, we all well know there are ongoing conspiracies that are silenced by these cretins, who will never be banned or erased for these.

By all means, this is clearly a liberal philosophy, and the leftists are now anchored in postmodernism, not mentioning the millennials and more who grew up, were raised in yet another generation of postmodern dialectic, in cinema, music, schools... This spirit of defiance for a made up individualism contribute to the acceptance of fringe theories that offer unique interpretations of reality, even if they are built on zero empirical evidence or logical consistency, and will defend their views claiming there is a conspiracy against them. Yes you start realizing climate activists and antifa are following the same doctrine.

Logic is grounded in principles of consistency, coherence, and empirical evidence. Flat Earth fans are easy to debunk. The overwhelming body of scientific evidence, including observations of Earth's curvature from space and the dynamics of celestial bodies, points towards a spherical Earth. The logical coherence of this evidence forms the basis of the scientific consensus.

But the same could be said of a lot of more institutional lies, for political gain such as climate alarmism, which is the same level, OXFAM people use the same rhetoric but the scientists who observe, analyze and conclude are silenced just as if they said the earth is round. And in case you don't know, there's no scientific consensus on climate change being linked to human activity, other than fallacies of causality being causation. You will never find a single paper that cites a single evidence it does than data. Because even if they know it's false, pushing the lies so hard will make people convinced they are on the right side of History, and yes, this is terrifying.

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>>173273
>Im still curious about the motive to blindly trust NASA even though you also agree they lie all the time
NASA gives detailed explanations of what they do and answers the questions that they are asked. All their research is public domain and has thousands upon thousands of pages of details for me to scrutinize how their stuff works.
On the other side (You) do not explain things in detail, and you aggravatingly ignore or avoid relevant questions you are asked in the thread, which makes it impossible to have a fulfilling discussion with you.
Knowing that, why should I blindly trust (You)?

>>173274
>conspiracy cant happen at this magnitude
this is an odd position to have, the safer more logical position would be to assume theres possibility, not impossibility. you can say the same thing about holocaust and holocaust museums. statesmen and the powers that be have been working on crafting lies over several hundred years, but ofc they cant Fool God and they will be found out inevitably. if trillions of inflated dollars can be printed out of nothing but usury and finance, then logistical efficiencies can be nullified

>>173276
>NASA gives detailed explanations
ok and who cares? NASA cant use consistent models, also occams razor says the less complex an explanation is the more likely it is to be true

>>173275
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So in conclusion, while postmodernism encourages critical thinking and diversity of perspectives, it caused the absolute opposite, valorizing the discourse of the cretins, or manipulators passing as simple people, because people have empathy and identifies as low class, seeing the educated high class as the privileged, the enemy, the nerd is hated for these reasons. Where postmodernism should have emphasized individualism, it is the framework of social-liberalism, and class warfare. Yep, you fit the absolute definition of a delusional wokeist/SJW. And knowing you're wrong, but echoing anti-facts will not change reality, never. (>You) are literally being influenced by your enemy, the enemy who wants your destruction and you offer our enemy everything you wanted.

<‘‘If it can be destroyed by truth, it must be.’’

>>173267
Of course, you didn't want the enemy to know anything developed for your security, ensuring deterrence because, you know; nukes are scary, hello! NASA was based during this era, created thanks to DEUTSCHE TECHNOLOGIE literal nazis, with in the mind of burying commies, physically or ideologically. You have to keep a LOT of things top secret, not everything NASA published on rocket design are open source, same about moon missions, they are not retarded. Northrop, Boeing, Douglas all keep their industrial secrets. Discoveries are the trophies of this work and you want them published, that's the game. You should be okay with that if you are an US citizen just like I hate it when Macron sells our technology to our enemies (Yes you too) Anyways, Space exploration remains the gigachad move of white race and must go on.

>>173278
NASA isn't just one guy and exists since the 50's, a 1960's guy who worked on Project Mercury would punch the shit out of a current NASA guy. Also your logic is biased, kill yourself.

>>173279
>NASA isnt just one guy
did you just recently discover what "institution" or "corporation" means? I dont think anyone here ever claimed "NASA is one guy". maybe you need to lurk a few more years to gain some common sense

>>173270
No. I'm not calling a goddamn 1-800 number that links to God only knows what, probably some kind of weird phone-sex line for insane schizos. I want YOU to answer my very simple question. A conspiracy on the scale of what you're proposing would be extraordinarily expensive and complicated to pull off. I want to know what you think the purpose of such an endeavor would be. Because I do not see how anyone involved in such a conspiracy could possibly benefit from it, let alone benefit greatly enough that it would justify the effort. Surely you at least have an opinion?

>>173274
Pretty much what this anon says.

>>173277
>>conspiracy cant happen at this magnitude
That's not what I said. I said it's logistically implausible and that it's an absurd amount of trouble, so it requires a very, very, very strong motive.
>you can say the same thing about holocaust and holocaust museums
This is much easier to pull off. A museum is not hard to build.
Also, Jews have an actual motive to promote the holohoax and to go through that trouble to make people believe it.
>if trillions of inflated dollars can be printed out of nothing but usury and finance, then logistical efficiencies can be nullified
It's not about the money, it's about the effort. What you suggest takes billions of people coordinating im lockstep and devoting absurd sums of their lives to doing this.

What's their motive to jump through all of these hoops and do all of this hard work?
>>173278
>NASA cant use consistent models
Yes they do.
>occams razor says the less complex an explanation is the more likely it is to be true
By that logic, Occam's razor says that there is no absurdly complex and logistically-nightmarish conspiracy in >>173274 and that it is what it is at face value.

The most important point was that they answer questions, a point that you have ignored like many others.

>>173280
>maybe you need to lurk a few more years to gain some common sense
He's been here since the first week of /mlpol/, unlike you.
You never lurked, despite everyone telling you, you massive hypocrite.

>>173282
total kike debate tactic used here. nice semantic argument, but i just told you that statistical inefficiencies are nullified, theyre not a slam dunk like you believe them to be
>museums are east to build
space and curvature is easy to fake. just use CGI, greenscreen pools, and fish eye lenses
>Its about the effort
effort is made to incentive, incentive is made through money, money gets wasted all the time by government and is getting further and further devalued
>the complex lies prove that its too complex to be faked!
you arent saying anything here. in order to cover up a simple truth, you need a stack of reinforcing and over-arching complex lies. thats what flat earthers have been saying this whole time, and have been correctly pointing out. The flat earth positive claim on what the earth is, is the more simple one, relative to the cartoon spinning globe claim. the globers dont have a simple explanation for a simple claim, its not our job for us to deconstruct all their made up lies, its their job to stop being complicated pricks

>>173272
lol. Honestly, you've got nerve accusing anyone of going off topic. Literally 2/3 of this thread is just you deflecting or dumping stupid memes every time someone backs you into a corner or calls you out on your bullshit.

>>173277
>more deflection
We're not talking about the goddamn holocaust. Honestly, faking the holocaust would be less complicated than faking the shape of the earth in an age where air and space travel are technologically possible. And, as the other anon pointed out, there is actually a reason why someone would want to fake the holocaust. The holohoax is nothing but a few fake chimneys appended to some old buildings, and some exaggerated death statistics in wartime.

All I want to know is the answer to one very simple question: if the earth is actually flat, and there is a massive, complex conspiracy designed to keep the average person in the dark about this, then why does this conspiracy exist? Who benefits, and how? This would be a ridiculously complicated project to pull off, and no matter how I look at it, I can't see any benefit in it for literally anyone. Certainly nothing that justifies the absurd herculean effort.

>>173284
*logistical inefficiencies, not statistical

>>173285
>why the lie
you guys just keep asking the same shit over and over, when it was answered the first time
if were just a cosmic accident in the satanic model of space and floating planets, then i have severly less significance and relationship with the creator. i have less reason to fear sin. ALL OF THIS in the flat earth conspiracy lines of perfectly well with everything else going on. the lie of evolution, the lie of nuclear weapons, the lie of nihilism, the romantization with all of secular history.
Satan works by sucking energy out of other people, God wants all to feel his love and energy. Satan wants people to be globers so he can feed on their energy. thats why organizations and states are built on lies

>>173284
>total kike debate tactic
Said the bigger to the kettle.
>statistical inefficiencies are nullified
I disagree.
It was you who invoked Occam's razor: The absurdly complex logistics of such a conspiracy are evidence to the contrary using the very same logic you used.
>theyre not a slam dunk like you believe them to be
That is true, but you should still address it if you want people to believe you.
Why would they do this?
>effort is made to incentive, incentive is made through money, money gets wasted all the time by government and is getting further and further devalued
That doesn't mean it's a fuckton of trouble to manage and organize. It would go r the people in power a huge headache.
So what's their motive for this headache?
>>>the complex lies prove that its too complex to be faked!
I didn't say that. I used the same logic you invoked to refute the central point of your argument. Occam's Razor has its flaws, and I certainly wouldn't use it as proof for anything.
>in order to cover up a simple truth, you need a stack of reinforcing and over-arching complex lies.
So why do they want to do that?
>The flat earth positive claim on what the earth is, is the more simple one
I disagree. The concept of space and planets is rather simple, as it's just the wider application of very basic universal forces.
>the globers dont have a simple explanation for a simple claim
"Our earth is a planet in space."
There's your simple explanation. You can ask questions if you want more details.
>its not our job for us to deconstruct all their made up lies
You said in the OP that the purpose of the thread is to debunk the lies.
>its their job to stop being complicated pricks
They're pricks because their explanations are complicated? They're scientists, not preschool teachers.
When they give simple explanations, people ask for more details, and so they do their best to provide those details because that's their job.
And you're still avoiding the question: why would they do all of this? What's the motive?

>>173287
>satanic model of space and floating planets
>the lie of evolution
>the lie of nuclear weapons
>Satan works by sucking energy out of other people
>Satan wants people to be globers so he can feed on their energy

So in other words you don't actually have an answer, this is just some unhinged religious bullshit?

>>173287
>if were just a cosmic accident
The concept of the earth being round doesn't mean the universe couldn't have been intelligently designed.
>then i have severly less significance and relationship with the creator
Oh, I see how it is
Size = importance to you
You feel intimidated by the idea of an enormous universe because it makes you feel unimportant, instead of marvelling at the astronomical scale of God's creation, the scale of God's power, and feeling greatful that you can bear witness to such glory. Is your faith really so weak that you would give up on God just because the world is round?
You are a human. You are God's most intelligent creature: you are the sole creature that can look upon the universe and see it's beauty. For that reason, human life and what we do with it is the most important thing in the universe.
All of the other planets that scientists have observed? Lifeless desert shitholes. This is the most important place, no matter how vast God's creation is.
The majority of people in the world still believe in God despite believing that the world is round.
Pic related
>i have less reason to fear sin.
God is all-knowing. No matter how huge the universe is, you'll still be before him on judgement day, and he'll know all of your sins.
>ALL OF THIS in the flat earth conspiracy lines of perfectly well with everything else going on. the lie of evolution, the lie of nuclear weapons, the lie of nihilism, the romantization with all of secular history.
Most people who disbelieve those things don't believe the earth is flat, so flat earth can't be the basis for that belief.
>Satan works by sucking energy out of other people, God wants all to feel his love and energy. Satan wants people to be globers so he can feed on their energy.
Satan doesn't actually gain anything from it: he just wants people to be godless losers like him because misery loves company. He's a tranny faggot with daddy issues, and he spends his days trying to tempt people and trick them into surrender because that's all he can do. He's an illiterate retard who refuses to read the Bible and he's going to get incinerated in the end of days.

>>173288
>It was you who invoked Occam's razor: The absurdly complex logistics of such a conspiracy are evidence to the contrary using the very same logic you used.
im not the one who appeals to complexity arguments, that would be globers that do.
>you should still address it
i did
>its a headache
not really, there are liars and then there are fools who work for liars. no headaches required
>I didn't say that. I used the same logic you invoked to refute the central point of your argument. Occam's Razor has its flaws, and I certainly wouldn't use it as proof for anything.
Im not claiming the globe position of complex reinforcing and over-arching lies. so occams razor doesnt apply to me. im pointing out occams razor on the globers side. if you have a problem with occams razor logic, then you should point out how it doesnt apply or logically fit
>"Our earth is a planet in space."
you havent yet defined or shown tangible evidence for planets or space existing. too many complex variables youre still working with
>Theyre scientists
science doesnt require complex explanations from scientists. science is a way of understanding the physical world through physical experiment. you do what works, then you verify it that it works

>>173290
the satanic model is still okay as long as youre Christian!
no its not. the same model you claim "doesnt prevent faith" is also the one atheists froth from the mouth over and worship. Sorry but im not gonna go along the imaginations of jesuits just because all the soft fake "Christians" around the world do.
>Most people who disbelieve those things don't believe the earth is flat, so flat earth can't be the basis for that belief.
and EVERYONE who is a flat earther disbelieves those things, its almost like we have a consistent solid foundation for our beliefs unlike globers
>Satan just wants you to be Godless
yes, so he can suck away your energy. thats what he has to gain by you being a glober aswell, along with all the other psyop lies

>>173291
>im not the one who appeals to complexity arguments, that would be globers that do
It was literally you who brought up Occam's razor: that is an appeal to complexity.
>not really, there are liars and then there are fools who work for liars. no headaches required
Nigger, even managing a production warehouse is hard. Don't act like organizing such a conspiracy isn't a fuckton of trouble.
>so occams razor doesnt apply to me.
Then why did you bring it up? Logic goes both ways.
>im pointing out occams razor on the globers side.
>"Rules for thee, but not for me".
You are like a child.
>if you have a problem with occams razor logic, then you should point out how it doesnt apply or logically fit
I just did.
>you havent yet defined or shown tangible evidence for planets or space existing.
Nothing to do with the simplicity of the statement.
>too many complex variables youre still working with
I could ask you the same sorts of questions about firmaments, how objects fall, or how tides work. It gets more complex depending on what questions you ask.
>science doesnt require complex explanations from scientists.
This is true. People ask for complexity because they want greater detail. It can get infinitely complex depending on the level of detail.
>science is a way of understanding the physical world through physical experiment
Yes.
>you do what works, then you verify it that it works
Indeed.

>>173292
>the satanic model is still okay as long as youre Christian!
Nobody said that.
>the same model you claim "doesnt prevent faith" is also the one atheists froth from the mouth over and worship
Who cares what atheists think?
Besides, there are atheist flat earthers, even in this thread.
>Sorry but im not gonna go along the imaginations of jesuits just because all the soft fake "Christians" around the world do.
That wasn't the point.
The point was that nothing about the universe being huge makes you any less important, because earth is where humanity is.
>and EVERYONE who is a flat earther disbelieves those things
No. The other flat earther in this thread said he was an atheist.
>its almost like we have a consistent solid foundation for our beliefs unlike globers
Lol. Lmao even.
>so he can suck away your energy
Quote the passage in the Bible where it says this.
The Satan you describe is the romanticized Satan of pop culture. Satan irl is a powerless loser.