/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

High altitude footage, 22 miles above earth; and a reminder of the math coming from the heliocentric model.

>>148613
>floating in space
Would you be so kind as to offer a counter proposal?

Because this board is /vx/, the opening posts about Flat Earth should be addressed in proper fashion and I found the right /x/ stuff for the occasion.
Even if you reject the Flat Earth idea, just follow the below narrative as a /x/ fascinating mystery story, You'll learn a lot of incredible and undeniable facts with huge entertainment value. You won't be disappointed, guaranteed.
If you are one of those impatient anons, no problem, go ahead and jump to the last episode for the culmination, but the narrative won't taste the same, either way, it is not for narrow minds.

>The Lost History of Flat Earth - by Ewaranon (2020)
Odysee links in HD.

>Episode 1 - "Buried in Plain Sight"
https://odysee.com/@flatearth:9/11:9
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Q5SoQNkVIGgE/

>Episode 2 - "A Lens Into the Past"
https://odysee.com/@flatearth:9/LHFE-12:f
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/jiSCnFRC93wm/

>Episode 3 - "Inheritors of Mud & Magnificence"
https://odysee.com/@flatearth:9/LHFE-13:2
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/XaxSAOknYfgq/

>Episode 4 - "Back to the Future"
https://odysee.com/@flatearth:9/LHFE-14:7
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/cHJm9mbgCTKq/

>Episode 5 - "The Whispering of the Water"
https://odysee.com/@flatearth:9/LHFE-15:2
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/xixTVlEXDc7E/

>Episode 6 - "Offerus and the Alchemist"
https://odysee.com/@flatearth:9/LHFE-16:3
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/3TX1hZe7rcpJ/

>Episode 7 - The Known World
https://odysee.com/@flatearth:9/LHFE-1-7:5
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/mRQ9P6Ij5Uqs/

>>148613
How can the earth be Flat if its a sphere and hollow. Check mate retards

>>148626
Try to check mate this genius.

>>148613
I live by the ocean. I look out the window and I see ships sink below the horizon bottom first. Sperg. This is shit people knew 2300 years ago. Aristotle talked about it. Eratosthenes not only physically proved it was round but also measured it accurately using angles and shadows (something you can still do today). Aristotle also talked about how gravity would necessarily collapse things into a ball, and yes, you can measure gravity yourself. My friend has done it.
https://physicsteacher.in/2020/12/24/how-to-measure-universal-gravitational-constant-measurement-of-g/

>>148614
It's called momentum and a vacuum. When you fly on an airplane do you feel movement when not accelerating? Then remove the air so there's no turbulence either and that's what we have. And with the video, it's not that high up. The atmosphere is a lot thinner than the earth is big, and any sphere looked at from a shallow angle and without seeing depth looks like a disk.

>>148828
>gravity
Gravitation is a concept invented to explain the heliocentric model, it was widely theorized with math by Newton and the Church of England begun to teach it around the world.
In the Terra centric model, gravity doesn't exist, above and below are the parameters together with density.

Book:
>200 Proofs Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball! - by Eric Dubay - (2017)

>>148884
Also that book/presentation was made in video:

>200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball (HD Remastered)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEaHjPF47_E

I guess this might sound wierd but I don't really care either way.
I'm a bit curious, though. If the earth is flat, are there pictures of the edge?

>>148917
>If the earth is flat, are there pictures of the edge?
No, it is forbidden by the UN to even approach Antarctica. Only the military of the countries signatory of the Antarctic Treaty are allowed there.

>>148828
>It's called momentum and a vacuum. When you fly on an airplane do you feel movement when not accelerating?
Check this out:

>Uniform Circular Motion is Constant Acceleration
>Consult any mainstream science publication or ask any science teacher "why can't we feel the Earth spinning?" and they will unanimously reply that it is because the globe spins at a perfect constant speed, and we can only feel acceleration or deceleration. As CoolCosmos writes: "Earth moves very fast. It spins at a speed of about 1,000 miles per hour and orbits around the Sun at a speed of about 67,000 miles per hour. We do not feel any of this motion because these speeds are constant. You can only feel motion if your speed changes. For example, if you are in a car which is moving at a constant speed on a smooth surface, you will not feel much motion. However, when the car accelerates or when the brakes are applied, you do feel motion." The glaring problem with this claim rarely ever addressed is that the globe and everything on it, if it existed, would be undergoing constant acceleration, because uniform circular motion IS constant acceleration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAI3RNlMiFE

>>148877
>In the Terra centric model, gravity doesn't exist
First, no, geocentric models still had gravity, but second that would just make it retarded.

>>148938
>would be undergoing constant acceleration, because uniform circular motion IS constant acceleration
No, it isn't. It's not speeding up or slowing down, spin doesn't mean acceleration.

>>148976
>geocentric models still had gravity
Gravity = gravitation, and no, in the geocentric model what matters is "density", gravity is an invention to explain forces among fictional celestial bodies.

>>148976
>spin doesn't mean acceleration
Okay, get inside a washer machine and experience the centrifuge force, then come back and tell me spin doesn't mean constant acceleration.

>>148951
>>148952
That's not how spheres work. Any sphere looked at without depth looks like a flat disk from any angle. So is there a way to see the depth, aka the curve that's heading away from you? Well, yeah. Ships disappear from the bottom up instead of shrinking indefinitely.

>>148977
>gravity is an invention to explain forces among fictional celestial bodies
Historically people believed in gravity way way before heliocentrism. They're not really related. It was viewed more like objects moving towards "their natural state", but a force that pulled them down depending on their mass still.

>in the geocentric model what matters is "density"
Ok. Run a simulation in your head for me. You have a tank of water, in it is a beach ball. The beach ball is less dense than the water. Then what? What happens? You need a force acting on the mass to pull the water underneath so the beach ball is pushed up. What force is it that pulls on matter?

>Okay, get inside a washer machine and experience the centrifuge force, then come back and tell me spin doesn't mean constant acceleration.
1) That's not acceleration. Acceleration means speeding up, but every part keeps moving at the same speed. A centrifugal force isn't acceleration.
2) Do you get thrown off a merry-go-round when standing on it? What about one that only rotates once every 24h the size of a planet? Tangential speed doesn't mean a force, and we actually spin pretty slowly very far from the centre of the spin, meaning there's next to no force put on us.

>>148978
>and we actually spin pretty slowly very far from the centre of the spin, meaning there's next to no force put on us.
Speed = 0 at the poles.

>>148978
>1) That's not acceleration. Acceleration means speeding up, but every part keeps moving at the same speed. A centrifugal force isn't acceleration.
It is rotational acceleration.
Why?
Because the forces acted on the object accelerate and deaccelerate (that means accelerating in the opposite direction).
I want you to have a circle, now have a stick or pencil or some shit.
Make the pencil go around the circle so it's perpendicular to the center.
That's the direction of the force. Changes in direction (angles and degrees) need to be acted upon.
So yes it is accelerating.
It can maintain rotational acceleration or change in rotational acceleration.

>Thread is pics related.
Acting dumb for shits and giggles is fun until you're surrounded by bottomless pits and professional idiots.
Keep in mind glowniggers and 'tarded urinary brainpan where you are. I'd recommend you'd stop while you're still ahead.

>>148980
To clarify the perpendicular is the direction of acceleration.
>Make the pencil go around the circle so it's perpendicular to the center.
>The direct connection to the edge of the imaginary circle is the direction of the force so that it moves around the perimeter of that circle . Changes in direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ9AH2S8B6Y

>>148922
GUARDIANS OF THE EDGE. FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!

>>148980
>Keep in mind glowniggers and 'tarded urinary brainpan where you are. I'd recommend you'd stop while you're still ahead.
Chillax anon.
There are plenty of inconsistencies about the tall tale that we live on a ball.
It is so simple as to take a look and judge for yourself.

The History of Flat Earth
>From the beginning of recorded history, and for thousands upon thousands of years, cultures across the entire world all believed the Earth was flat. Their various cosmologies and cosmogonies differed in slight ways but their overall geographies and astronomies were incredibly consistent and in fact virtually identical. The Earth was a stationary plane void of any motion or curvature, flat across its entire expanse except of course for hills, mountains and valleys. The North Pole was the magnetic mono-pole center-point of the flat Earth with Polaris, the North Pole star situated directly above. Polaris was the only motionless star in the heavens with all the other constellations revolving perfect circles over the Earth every night. The stars were divided into two categories known as the fixed stars and the wandering stars. The fixed stars were so-called because they were observed then as we can observe today to stay fixed in their constellation patterns night after night, year after year, century after century, never changing their relative positions. The wandering stars, what are today referred to as “planets,” were so-called because they were observed then as we can observe today to wander the heavens taking their own unique spirograph-like patterns making both forward and retrograde motions over and around the Earth during their cycles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQCXT2pkans
Mirror: https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/TheHistoryofFlatEarth:3

>Retired astronaut Miroslaw Hermaszewski says earth is flat.
>Mirosław Hermaszewski is a retired Polish Air Force officer and cosmonaut. He became the first Polish national in space, when he flew aboard the Soviet Soyuz 30 spacecraft in 1978.
Be sarcasm or not, it gives something to wonder.

Actual flight routes from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile.
Curious, isn't it?

Why would anybody want to cover up that the world is flat?
>inb4 Jews
Why though? To what end?

>>149018
>Why would anybody want to cover up that the world is flat?
One reason I've heard is that it moves us from God. A globe earth in a vast universe makes us insignificant in the grand scheme, removes the spiritual connection we had, and turns people into atheists. And people who don't believe in God and the importance of our existence are easier to dupe and turn away from God and good.

>>149019
The idea of the earth as a speck in a vast universe doesn't move us away from god. It just shows that God's greatness it more than we could ever comprehend.

>>148999
>>149018
>>149019
You do understand all intelligence agencies love being able to implant any idea or belief in anyone. Doesn't matter if it's true or false.
It's because they can. Not if they should, but could they do it.

So how does a flat Earth help anyone?
What benefits does it have that are exclusive to that in comparison to the standard Earth thinking?
Otherwise it's pointless trying to convince people about something utterly worthless.
>>148952
From anywhere in the world according to them you'll always be able to see the ice wall. It's completely flat right? Ice is typically white. So if you send a laser beam to that it'll reflect back and everyone will see big shaking beams of light.
How about you buy a plane and go stream your journey to the ice wall. Then go off the little disk you think the Earth is.

>>149020
I'm not sure how the full explanation goes as I'm just paraphrasing from what I loosely remember seeing.

>>149022
Is this what you believe?

>>149023
I assume you believe that you live on a spinning ball and your ancestors were monkeys.

>>149021
>How about you buy a plane and go stream your journey to the ice wall.
Well, the problem with that is that the UN is threatening with violence anyone wanting to explore the zone, as you realize the common peasants have not means to defend themselves against ships' artillery.

>>149021
>Otherwise it's pointless trying to convince people about something utterly worthless
Redpilling is never pointless.
And the consequences of a Flat Earth are big. Imagine most of the so called scientists being ridiculed for their stupidity and dishonesty because they have chosen career and money over science and truth.
Imagine all governments pushing the lie being unmasked for their collusion about space programs, which brings into focus if most politicians and government career employees involved are anti-national agents executing orders from their gurus in the lodges.
Anon, fetching the freemasons to the foreground is casting light on the jewish hidden hand.

>>149029
You do realize video of being shot at is a piece of proof for your cause right?
>>149037
>Makes scientists salty
>Proof that everything is a lie
Well prove it, you have the plethora of models but you also need to do stuff with it that what people call normal do.
Unless you like tieing your shoelaces together before you even start.

>>149055
>Well prove it,
Have you even read this thread?
Have you ever read and understood something about physics? If you didn't, don't worry.
Just the very basic first step for you. If this realm' shape is a ball, trigonometry says that at the first mile the horizon should drop 8 inches, 32 inches at the second mile, and so on. Simple light reflection on the water denies that. Experiments with lasers on the water also deny any curvature. So, where the hell is the curve?

>>149071
That's not my point.
You're making a fool of yourselves in such a way people will remember it when it matters most.
Ya'll dun fucked up. To such a degree that even jokers would cease. No the ones that watch the jokers would have an ax to grind.
Then there's ponies and actually escaping the hell ya'll found yourselves in. You could stay there in your mind maybe have to go on day by day till you could actually have an ounce of self agency.
You do know they don't actually need you right? I get that's what you've signed up for, but you could take backesies.
You know that if they wanted you to do such a mission they'll frame the aircraft as another post. Amongst these.
Are the side benefits that good?
Is it a future promise by people that are meticulous in cleaning up every loose end? That you'll trust them? By the time you'd put the counter action into motion to recieve your dues from them they'll recieve dues into you.
That's...
If you so desperately want your chains that'll snuff it before your promised prizes It'd argue against that.
Not stupidly mind you, just out of professionalism at the very least.
So that's why the actual big wigs don't take any of you seriously. To me? That'd hurt quite a bit. That you're running their iconocracy for them you'd stick to being the monkey. Their monkey.
Well that's illuminating but doesn't seem all that bright. Anyway sorry about the psy flag on the files, but you do need to at least hear this.
Dream on little dorgy dream a dream for squee. I'd break down the complicated multi message ciphers but that'll waste the point fo perfectly crafted individual messages.
Do they package such things for you? I suppose that counts but seems to me rather cold much like where restructuring and shaving the important proportions in a slavery that from that point ever more may probably be everevereverever.
The ocean sends his regards. Make of that as you will. Laying about just won't seperate it anymore.
I'm truly, not sorry, but a sort of empathic sympathy not necessarily mine. Protip, every four letters because it's wwww.
Yes like the band. Not that band the blander one that's obvious.
it's all up to you -song lyric

>>149105
>deflecting
If you live on a ball, where is the curve?
The most basic question and still no answer.

Where is the curve?

>>149020
Pretty much.

>>149021
>How about you buy a plane and go stream your journey to the ice wall. Then go off the little disk you think the Earth is.
You are really upset anon.

>How about you buy a plane and go stream your journey to the ice wall.
Actually there are a couple of tours in summer to Antarctica for around 8,000/10,000 per passenger, leaving from Argentina, if I'm not mistaken they visit a peninsula far to the north from the real antarctic ice shelf, but according to current "official" pictures and the descriptions of captain J. Cook, see first pic >>148951 ; the edge is real.

>>149114
Okay, theres an oceanic Ice wall in Antarctica. Captain Cook described it. Kudos. Its still a remarkable stretch to use that to justify a flat earth. Maybe Im coming into this late, and there are a few points ITT that make me 'hmmm', but 'not having an answer = flat earth' is not an argument. Where is the evidence?

>>149108
>>149114
There's a difference between knowing you're big and thinking you're big.
Seems to me you lack the mental abilities in creating to scale dimensions. I'm sorry for your loss.

>>149116
>Seems to me you lack the mental abilities in creating to scale dimensions.
It looks like you didn't do the research.
Optical experiments demonstrate over and over again that there's no curve.
Take in count that you don't need expensive equipment to debunk the curve (Nikon P900 and P1000), remember that on this hypothetical ball the horizon should fall 8 inches the first mile and 32 inches the second one.
So, it is now "Reproducible Experiments" (real science) versus the "Established Agreed Truth" (propaganda).

But let us see what the "authoritative" priests have to say about Flat Earth (fascinating establishment damage control):
>Buzzfeed's Fake Flat Earth Theory Debunked
>In the following presentation head of the International Flat Earth Research Society responds and corrects several misconceptions and falsehoods in Buzzfeed Multiplier's video "The Flat Earth Theory Explained."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecnlz7SXDCk
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Buzzfeed's-Fake-Flat-Earth-Theory-Debunked:4
https://www.bitchute.com/video/G3QjI1gtPpZQ/

>NASAs Top Globe Proofs Debunked
>In the following presentation the President of the International Flat Earth Research Society Eric Dubay debunks NASA's Assistant Director for Science Communication Michelle Thaller's top "proofs" that Earth is a spinning ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow2MoLQXJsQ
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/NASA's-Top-Globe-Proofs-Debunked:e
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zBj0xAEOCYDS/

>Flat Earth Science: Not Wrong or Stupid
>In the following presentation International Flat Earth Research Society president Eric Dubay debunks science communicator Sabine Hossenfelder's video "Flat Earth Science: Wrong but not Stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rebktApD31I
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Flat-Earth-Science-Not-Wrong-or-Stupid:1
https://www.bitchute.com/video/R7gDpjIvWJvW/

>Theoretical Astronomy Debunked by Empirical Reality
>In the following presentation astronomer Dr. Stuart Clark's video "An Astronomer Responds to Flat Earth Theory" is refuted and debunked by the president of the International Flat Earth Research Society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXyot6Coe58
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Theoretical-Astronomy-Debunked-by-Empirical-Reality:6
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2dkN9u5I7jWY/

> Neil Tyson's Flat Earth Star Talk Debunked
>In the following presentation the President of the International Flat Earth Research Society Eric Dubay debunks astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson's top "proofs" that Earth is a spinning ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX_eBzCdBTk
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Neil-Tyson's-Flat-Earth-Star-Talk-Debunked:1
https://www.bitchute.com/video/VaiSf0uJOMth/

>>149123
>Take in count that you don't need expensive equipment to debunk the curve (Nikon P900 and P1000)
It is an impressive camera/telescope

>INCREDIBLE ZOOM | Nikon P1000 | Ben Lomond | Scotland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQlwKX3LQA
>Two Planets, a Star, and a Moon - Nikon P1000 Camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGvV_GcOkjs
>Nikon P1000 - Maximum Zoom Range Test (93 KM / 57 Miles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sx3rAdz2SA
>Nikon P900 zoom test, "readable" distances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRp13pRzzWQ

>>149123
You can do the experiments correctly but still manage to fuck up on decoding the meaning.
Get one of those planetary telescopes, you know the ones that looks really far away the consumer commercial kind.
Then try to find another content. Heck you could find the ice wall and see right past it. 'Cause according to you if the Earth is flat you should be able to see that far.
All of it. Just turning around completely to see the whole world in under twenty seconds.
No risking it all, no leaving the house (unless you live in a ditch), nothing at all strenuous or strange.
All that you would have to do is record the thing. Wouldn't that be cool.
Unless you're telling me that's also impossible.

>>149125
You are misinterpreting the experiment. I'm not sure if it is because of your lack of knowledge on physics or just trolling.
The point of zooming is not about how far is possible to see, but to demonstrate that there is not any curvature hiding ships or objects.

>>149126
How far are you zooming?
You do realize that the earth only appears flat at ground level because of its sheer enormity, right?
Also, the curvature of the earth is apparent at long distances, like how ships appear to sink at the horizon as they dip past the subtle curvature of the earth.

>>149131
>You do realize that the earth only appears flat at ground level because of its sheer enormity, right?
Read the whole thread faggot, there are plenty of videos debunking the curve by bringing objects supposedly hidden behind the horizon in full view.
Also read about trigonometry, it's not difficult, math proves that the curve is a lie. But if it is too convoluted for you, then a CAD software like AutoCAD might do the trick for you in a graphical fashion.

>>149131
>Also, the curvature of the earth is apparent at long distances, like how ships appear to sink at the horizon as they dip past the subtle curvature of the earth.
It's debunked.
See clip >>148988

>>149160
By the way, as seen in that clip, the distance from the observer (camera) to the boat is at least 2 or 3 miles. Trigonometry says that the boat's hull should be hidden by the curvature from 32 to 72 inches, see pic for the values.
Obviously that is not happening and the claim of the Earth being a ball is busted. NASA and all paid shill scientists are lying.

>>149160
You're just going to accept a video without proving it yourself. What are you a sheep?
>>149142
I guess you are...

>>148613
niggle me this flat earthers. why would the jews lie about the shape of the earth?

>>149171
See >>149111

>>149170
>>149172
And what other reasons. You know there's more you want to say.

>>149131
>Also, the curvature of the earth is apparent at long distances, like how ships appear to sink at the horizon as they dip past the subtle curvature of the earth.
How about when you're on top of a mountain? If the Earth really is "flat", then you should be able to look out and see even taller mountains far beyond.
<Instead, you just get this.

>>149170
>Second pic
That's another thing, how is all the water able to stay on "Earth" if it's flat? Also, aren't tectonic plates basically tearing apart the world? Wouldn't that mean that Earth would have been "destroyed" millions of years ago?

>>149174
>how is all the water able to stay on "Earth" if it's flat?
It appears to be contained by the Antarctic edge, But can't be confirmed because the UN and its associates will violently oppose any exploration.

>>149177
>It appears to be contained by the Antarctic edge
Then, isn't the U.N. in the right for getting all their knickers in a knot over global warming?

>>149178
>global warming
You know that that is another psy-op. Right?

>>149203
So, the multiple ice ages and warmer periods like during the dinosaurs are all psi-ops?

>>149208
Global warming is a psy-op prepared from the 70s by the Club of Rome, another globalist club founded to shape international policy.
Check the Great Reset thread for further redpilling newfag >>>/mlpol/286845 →

>>149219
Then, how do they explain all the underwater cave paintings? Or the fossilized remains of giant floral and lizards?

>>149219
>Club of rome
And how do the jews fit in?

>>149223
You are being dishonest. Glacial and warm periods extend for thousands of years and are not related the the globalist hoax. Warming is so real as the coronavirus hoax.
Lurk moar faggot: >>>/mlpol/302668 →

>>149223
/mlpol/ is always right, nigger.

>>149238
I think you have a theory.
By all means, let us hear it.

>>149239
Because the Earth is a sphere.

>>149238
>>149240
Not sure what are you talking about but if the subject is huge volumes of water, then I would like to point to the big flooding narrated by many ancient civilizations, even the Bible mention it.

>15 Nov 1892.
>From the Boston Library.
Notice the computational details on this patented navigational map, the patent is literally a mechanical computer for Worldwide Navigation.
File is 4773x6794 pixels, 31.4 MB.

Well technically the Earth is an irregular ovoid.
But you see the truth is the Earth is more akin to the life generating symbol in pic 2 the windmills of friendship.

>Chemtrails vs. Curvature
>Scifidan has been feeling a little left out recently so here's a little video he can watch in his safe space....
https://www.bitchute.com/video/72LVnhbytUHu/
Mocking the sheeple.

>>149247
The earth is hollow to store the botched metaphor for abortion on a kid's show
You know, The Cluster.

>>149248
I haven't a fucking clue what you mean or what show this is. But the earth is hollow, you just have to know where the entrances are.

>>149247
>>149248
>>149253
Ahem.

>>149255
Cubes can be hollow.
Checkmate retard

>>149259
Try to debunk this.

Why are they obsessed with FLAT EARTH?
>We are NOT the Flat Earth Society. The Flat Earth Society is Govern-Ment mind control.
>We live in a world of lies pushed on us by the upper levels of the world controllers. It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them they have been lied to especially when they are unknowingly addicted to the fear. If the FOUNDATION of your world belief is that you are on a spinning water globe pear rocket flying through an infinite space vacuum, then you will not know WHO you are, WHERE you are and WHAT you truly are. You will be lost and feel insignificant not KNOWING that you are at the center of creation rather than on a speck of dust in an ever expanding universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99fWjLYnT2Y

Flat Earth - The Ground Doesn't Move.

>A kike in space
Impressive footage from Amazon studios.

>>149567
Yeah, OP explain this please.

>>149567
>according to flat earthers
That's an obvious lie.
FYI, the map used by most military during World War 2 was very similar to >>149243
The modern maps are Mercator projections meant to match the round Earth lie.

>>149594
The map you're referring to is a round earth map.

>>149595
Look again.

>>149596
It contracts at the pole to represent the roundness of the earth.
What are you sourcing to imply that this map is a flat-earth model used for WWII?

>>149597
Let get some things straight, until WW2 schools were teaching the Earth was flat, then the concept of a "planet" and the theory of gravitation was introduced the the mass population as facts. The hoax of space and spacial travel also was deployed to solidify that false belief.
And going back to the map of >>149243 you might consider it as a official Flat Earth map because it was used as such.

>>149598
>until WW2 schools were teaching the Earth was flat, then the concept of a "planet" and the theory of gravitation was introduced the the mass population as facts.
What are you sourcing this from? Where did you hear this?

>>149598
>The hoax of space and spacial travel also was deployed to solidify that false belief.
What about satellites? You can see them in the sky if you're in an area with no light pollution.

>>149599
>Where did you hear this?
A woman born in 1920 America. I'll post her testimony as soon as find the clip.

>>149601
I had a grandparent who was in WWII. He never mentioned anything like this.

>>149602
>He never mentioned anything like this.
Very possible because the concept of planets and space travel were narrowed to academia and science fiction authors like Julius Verne.

>>149603
You're saying he was brainwashed?

>>149603
>concept of planets
Mars and Venus are visible from the surface of the Earth. To what capacity are you saying planets don't exist?

>>149604
Not at all, I'm saying that common people at that time hadn't TV to make them believe baloney.

>>149607
References to a round earth in science and literature date back long before TVs were invented.
When did this supposed conspiracy start, and how did they get the entire world on board? Wouldn't other countries, especially those at odds with one another, just point it out to embarrass their foes?

>>149606
When you use a telescope planets are not balls, but a luminescent objects roaming the sky. They were called errand stars for a reason.

>>149608
>References to a round earth in science and literature date back long before TVs were invented.
I agree. I mentioned it at >>149603

>>149609
If you use a much more powerful telescope, they look like rocky spheres.

>>149611
I'll post the clips later.
Planets according NASA's CGI, versus reality.

>>149612
Round Earth pre-dates NASA by quite a bit.
When is the conspiracy supposed to have started?

>>149613
>When is the conspiracy supposed to have started?
When the Freemasons re-introduced heliocentrism at the time of Illuminism and the Renaissance.
Italian Galileo Galilei ring a bell?

>>149614
I am aware of him, yes.

>>149601
>A woman born in 1920 America. I'll post her testimony as soon as find the clip.
I found the clip. Go to timestamp 2:22 for the lady's redpill; she was born in 1918.

>Ruth, 102 YEARS OLD. Pre interview clip
>I was taught the earth is flat!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP4pZJ1Szvw
Mirror:
https://odysee.com/@DITRH:f/102-year-old-ruth-was-taught-the-earth:f

Another of her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K87w1B019s

>A Stranger's Guide to Flat Earth: 21 Questions and Answers Proving The Earth Is Flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZkGY1Pa8_E
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/21-Questions-and-Answers-Proving-The-Earth-Is-Flat:2
https://www.bitchute.com/video/595frYc2yTug/

Content:

Question 01 - 00:15 - Where is the edge?
Question 02 - 04:02 - Where does the Sun go if the Earth is flat?
Question 03 - 05:30 - What's underneath the Flat Earth?
Question 04 - 07:06 - What about ships & boats disappearing over the horizon?
Question 05 - 08:19 - What about all the pictures of the Earth?
Question 06 - 11:01 - Why are all the other planets round?
Question 07 - 12:30 - What about satellites & GPS?
Question 08 - 14:00 - Is outer space even real?
Question 09 - 17:36 - How is circumnavigation possible on a Flat Earth?
Question 10 - 18:23 - How come the Moon is upside down in the southern hemisphere?
Question 11 - 19:14 - What about seasons?
Question 12 - 20:09 - What about gravity?
Question 13 - 22:02 - What about the Coriolis effect?
Question 14 - 23:17 - Why can't I see infinitely far?
Question 15 - 24:10 - Is the Flat Earth a religious thing?
Question 16 - 25:24 - Is The Flat Earth Society behind the resurgence of the Flat Earth?
Question 17 - 26:59 - Are all scientists, pilots & members of government in on it?
Question 18 - 28:21 - NASA isn't the only space program. Are all the others in on it too?
Question 19 - 32:29 - Who is responsible for this deception?
Question 20 - 34:27 - Why the lie?
Question 21 - 36:43 - What's it mean if the Earth is flat?

Bonus content - 39:17 - Dear NASA, why are you lying?

>>149622
A couple of clips.

>>149614
>Italian Galileo Galilei ring a bell?
The guy who was imprisoned because he refused to allow his work to be proof-read and declared that anyone who questioned his ideas was an idiot (Even to the point of mocking the then-current pope in his thesis)?

>>149243
You do realize how ridiculous that map looks when you actually analyze the voyages people committed in the past, right? For example, Captain Cook. He explored much of the Southern Hemisphere. Logically speaking, if the earth was flat, as that pictures describes, then he would have had to travel an insane amount of distance, spending innumerable years of his life trying to navigate it all. However, when one actually looks at his voyages, all of them lasted for three years. For reference, Columbus' second through fourth voyages all lasted around the same amount of time.
<So yu can see, Cook's voyages are in red, Columbus' are in blue
So, unless he was using a speedboat, how is it possible to travel around the edges of the Earth, in such a short amount of time?

Also, explain the arctic poles.

>>149622
>Question 02 - 04:02 - Where does the Sun go if the Earth is flat?
<It's all "perspective"
What about the month of complete night and sunlight that Northern and Southern regions experience every summer and winter?
>Question 14 - 23:17 - Why can't I see infinitely far?
<It's because your eyesight is shit and there's too much dust in the way
Okay, why doesn't someone set up a laser system to prove their theory, then? A simple laser pointer is capable of still being visible for 12 miles away. Why setup a system to see if what you're seeing with the zoom shots shown in this video are legit or mirages: >>148988
>Question 21 - 36:43 - What's it mean if the Earth is flat?
<[Starts going on a rant about fiat money, the NWO, and all the same bullshit that Neo-Libertarian conservatives have been repeating since Ron Paul made it cool]
Have ANY of you guys actually bothered to rewatch any of that shit from over a decade ago? Or, am I the only one who finds humor in how Alex Jones turned out to be the biggest source of controlled opposition?

>>149630
>Okay, why doesn't someone set up a laser system to prove their theory, then?
There are plenty of videos with lasers debunking the curvature.
Do the research faggot.

>>149631
Okay, link them

According to the ball lie and as it is stated at >>149168 , the Chicago skyline at a distance of 50 miles, should be hidden below 1,667 feet of curvature.

>>149633
The jewtube algorithm scrubbed them all, now only (((authoritative))) opinions are shown. However I managed to find a couple.

>Flat Earth | Laser Test Proves The Flat Earth - Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhDFO4NMrw

>16.4-Mile Laser Test Confirms Earth is Flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KYfodwnHAI
Mirrors:
https://www.brighteon.com/31db2f7b-135d-4a76-8e7e-451db974db45
https://www.bitchute.com/video/h058DU2FSf7k/

>>149614
>Muh Freemasons/Illuminati
>Galileo started it
People have been speculating about the Earth being round since the 5th century BC, when Pythagoras was still figuring out new number tricks. From there, the information spread and people were able to both astronomically and mathematically prove it from the third century AD all the way up to 1522, when Ferdinand Magellan and Juan Sebastian Elcano circumnavigated the Earth FORTY YEARS before Galileo was born. If you're going to spout garbage, at least make it conform to actual history and not just fit whatever your single-digit IQ remembers from your elementary school knowledge of the sciences.

If the earth is flat why does the sun rise at one end of the horizion and set at the opposite end? shoudnt we see the sun and moon rotating in circles above us the entire time? Seems like a jewish trick to me

Tesla: "Earth is a Realm, it is not a planet".

LEVEL (2021) | First Flat Earth Documentary
>Are flat earthers insane? Are they delusional idiots, so convinced of the wrong belief that they all become very passionate truth seekers and activists that want nothing more than to spread their ideas for the benefit of all humanity?
>No. Flat earthers are you. They are me. They are everyone and just because some people are indoctrinated into the heliocentric model of earth from a young age and still have a hard time letting go because of it, doesn't mean that those of us that know the truth about this world are going to give up on them.
>They are family. Whether you know it or not, you and I are referred to as "useless eaters" in the eyes of the self proclaimed leaders of the world.
>They wish to destroy us and the things we love in order to reduce the population to a more desirable number that's easier to steer and control.
>We must unite before it's too late and stand our ground if we have any chance at a future without one world totalitarian rule.
>We are taught that the earth is a cosmic accident and that life is meaningless because it's the only way to continually use us as batteries to power their economy, which is the real life matrix.
>If we all knew the truth about where we are and where we come from, their would be a revolt overnight and the government that you know today would not exist in the morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXU10zS1zFk
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@ODDTV:b/level-(2021)-first-flat-earth:6
https://worldtruthvideos.org/watch/level-a-flat-earth-film-2021_993zULRmPWdZzry.html
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=4HM5W1AW5KHN
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4SiTwJSONQk9/

>>149637
Hold up a second!
If the Earth is flat according to the according to the picture displayed here: >>149243
Wouldn't that result in the laser being to the right or left of the viewer? They cannot look at it straight on because, for example, if one were to look directly West along a latitudinal degree, everything would curve around to the right (With the reverse if you're facing East). Basically, imagine the Earth like a giant merry-go-round. The only exception to this would be if they were looking at it from a longitudinal angle, which would remain a straight line.
<But that doesn't explain how they can still see the laser.
Because light bends: https://archive.ph/zFuJY
With one of the reasons being gravity: https://archive.ph/tfho5

>>149648
>>We are taught that the earth is a cosmic accident and that life is meaningless because it's the only way to continually use us as batteries to power their economy, which is the real life matrix.
How is it possible for me to be a creationist, yet even acknowledge that sounds insane?

>>149649
>Because light bends: https://archive.ph/zFuJY
>links to a diffraction article
Diffraction is diffusion, not bending.
It might be said that light bends when "refraction" is the phenomena, see >>149110

>With one of the reasons being gravity: https://archive.ph/tfho5
>according to (((Einstein)))
It is a "THEORY", aka speculation, aka a hypothesis.

>How is it possible for me to be a creationist, yet even acknowledge that sounds insane?
It is an obvious analogy.

>FLAT EARTH CULT MEMBERS COME DEBATE ME (IS THERE ANY AMONG YOU THAT IS NOT A COWARD)
Here it is shown the wrong approach to the subject. It is not about the biggest dick, but the soundest science.

>>149650
>It might be said that light bends when "refraction" is the phenomena
Actually it is not bending, but bouncing.

>Anti-Flat Earth Defense Mechanisms
>Rather than genuinely inquire and research the proofs/evidence against the spinning globe model and for the stationary plane Earth, many people instead employ a variety of unconscious defense mechanisms to protect them from ever learning anything new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn9utRKNwhs
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Anti-Flat-Earth-Defense-Mechanisms:4
https://www.bitchute.com/video/D7Ot1oqaqVj3/

>>149775
Shows like this should be illegal.

>>149870
imagine a world where Standards And Practices has to erase all degeneracy from children's media
and govt funded art grants can only go to art that fits criteria intended to weed out degeneracy

>>149871
Jews would abuse such legislation to stomp out opposition and "problematic" content.
You'd need to erase Jews before you did that. Jews are the reason why we can't have nice things.

>>149873
>Jews are the reason why we can't have nice things.
Pretty much this.

>The Fall of Gravity
>The Fall of Gravity presentation is a collaboration between University of California Davis Electrical Engineer Vahid Ebrahimi and Head of the International Flat Earth Research Society Eric Dubay.
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/The-Fall-of-Gravity:d
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Go2MJKr5bUZc/

>>149879
>image 1
it makes a claim and then doesn't even try to back it up. Discarded.
>image 2
the solar system exists on a plane for the same reason that every planet except Uranus (long story) generally spins on the same axis, and that's because everything aside from the sun started off as a protoplanetary disk, something that has been observed elsewhere in the Milky Way galaxy and subsequently confirmed as of 2018, and thus seems the most likely origin of our solar system. If you want to know what a protoplanetary disk is, then look it up because there are many people who can explain them better than I can.
>image 3
I looked this one up because I was legitimately interested. Anyway, Sir Ranulph Fiennes and his world record for doing so would like a word, alongside the others who undertook the same race back in the 1970s/80s.
>image 4
Photoshop exists. Enough said.
>image 5
Do you see that little thing down there in the bottom right in the map? It's to show you roughly how far it is from point A to point B on there by giving some rough distance estimates.
Do you see how it has sets of lines and numbers, all differing in respective meaning in relation to the map? That's because the map has inaccuracies just like any other projection that has ever been put into use. The projection most commonly used as the flat version of Earth by people in your sphere happens to have the inaccuracy or "warp" as it is more formally referred of splaying out as it goes further south in order to maintain the polar-centric circular projection. Thus, the corrections need to be made for proper calculations of distance. Now, if this was the real state of the Earth, then why would those corrections need to be made at all? Why wouldn't there just be one line with one set of numbers for the entire map? >muh different units of measurement! No, that doesn't work. There are 14 separate lines, each with their own different meanings. There are only 2 units big enough and widely used enough to matter on a worldwide scale, the mile and the kilometer (imperial and metric.) Even assuming each of those lines is some different way of measuring distances within those two systems, that only adds up to 11 separate units (4 imperial, 7 metric,) requiring us to somehow pull 3 more units of length out of our asses to accommodate the other three lines shown. Anyone who knows these things better than me can feel free to correct any mistakes I've made, and anyone who thinks I'm wrong on any of these points is free to challenge me. I welcome the idea of learning new things, so I may be convinced if a more convincing argument than facebook-tier images are given.

>>149879
I really love how this thread is so full of completely un-cited claims that do nothing to help me consider the alternative point of view even after I give it the benefit of the doubt.

>>149963
>un-cited claims
You may begin with the lie that there is a curve behind the horizon. This thread shows plenty of empirical evidence debunking the curvature.

>>149964
I'm saying that all these memes that make claims with no sources aren't helping.

Former Senior Officer in the CIA says NASA is Not a Space Agency.
Verbatim.

>>149963
so many claims, so little sources, and so far out of the two- now three- posts I've made here nobody's been able (or at least willing) to prove me wrong. I'd love for that to happen, but something tells me that the guy's just not able to.

>>149969
>nobody's been able (or at least willing) to prove me wrong
And your sources are... NASA?

>>149969
That's the simplicity of it. They want you to indoctrinate yourself to it to yourself.
They'll always maintain their aloofness from hard truth. That's why flat earth memes are rarely good of they are it's usually due to their failure.
The kinds of tactics are like a very familiar slime when squeezed. Not even a good kind that has a little bit of something. Because of the substanceless usually displayed corrodes anything of value. Which is why they pair it with many important topics with actual documented seriousness.
It can be explained with nuts.
Mine and others have the seed to germinate life extremely successfullyfilled with nutrition for the journey.
Theirs is completely dry to such a degree that they do it because of fear. Then they goad people into making a soggy waffle so they get to eat it. As they taste the life force as a whore supping on a fapichino they are watched because they have the same reactions every time, to determine the categorization of both the ideas and the effectiveness of which it can change a deadend husk.
That's the most scary part for these watchers.
This is their test bed to see if it is possible and how much it is. Along the way they drag immigrant issues through the mud by meer association, intentionally or not.
The best part of this is breaking the mental scaffold that replicates this is a testament to selfbrain washing. As such the solutions are viable.
It gets even better though because now a man can act on his own if he so dares to venture into his mind. A call to action made by himself to himself.

Well, if some round earther may explain why the famous curvature fails to show up in every experiment done, then your credibility might increase.

>>149972
Now that you mention it, I too notice a certain (((resemblance))) in the argument styles used by these types. They never even look at the ideas and points you make, content to continue arguing circles and making you look stupid by association while giving those of feeble mind the misplaced confidence to hold fast to their incorrect assumptions. Very familiar indeed.

>>149972
>They want you to indoctrinate yourself to it to yourself.
At least Jews put some effort into their propaganda.
This is like trying to get a commie to explain how communism works and they just shout "do your own research!".
Ffs, I try to keep an open mind, but it's really annoying when all I get in return for considering someone else's viewpoints is half-baked memes and unsourced claims.

>>149973
>explain why the famous curvature fails to show up in every experiment done
[Citation needed]

>>149976
>[Citation needed]
Read the thread anon.
The citation you ask is in the physics books.

>>149978
I have read this thread, and it's almost nothing but loose ends with no source.

>>149979
If you say so.

>>150022
>Pic 5
Gravity and magnitsm.

>>150023
Wtf the air cant be magnetic it's not metal like my fridge magnets

>>150022
>implying the border between the atmosphere and space is a sheer border
The air gets thinner with higher elevation. That's why high altitude locations have less oxygen. As you go higher, the air gets thinner and thinner until there is no air at all, which would be a vacuum.