/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

>>157933
It's expensive as fuck, but I hope to one day do it.
https://www.adventure-life.com/antarctica

I'm going to stop posting on this thread now.

>>157935
I know that grift and read the contract the passengers have to sign before jump on board. Spoiler, those small ships only visit pre-determined outer islands and never reach the antarctic wall. Also the voyages leaving Usuhaia (Argentina) are in peak summer, or January in the South.

>>157924
>Flat earth is not peer reviewed. There's a reason to it.
A reason, yes. Reason, no. This is why the flat earth is utterly incredible. Peer review is where other scientists and practitioners get to recreate the experiment to attempt to find flaw in it, to exhaust whether there is any refutation. Flat earthers dont know the first thing about controls in experimentation, which is why they cant (and have stopped trying 'for a reason') submitting for peer review.
>There are no peers for new ideas
Good quote, I used to have that posted over my bedframe as a child. Like many things, it can be distorted from the idea that 'having a new idea makes you the frontrunner', to 'having a new idea makes it unassailable, and the idea man is now the expert'. Thats childish thinking anon.

>>157937
Any scientistute on a payroll can recreate the experiments disproving the curvature of Earth, but they won't because they will be destroyed for even to consider such a heresy to the establishment's faith.
Did you even read this thread? Because it looks like you have no clue about what had been already posted.

https://youtu.be/hVWiJgh5nzI
Quick rundown

>>157940
>gaslighting 101
>You are not seeing what you are seeing
>You are delusional
Okay, beyond the shilling and character assassination, can you prove the existence of a curvature and space? Or is this all you have left?

>>157943
What would constitute proof, in your opinion?

>>157947
I can't make your case for you.

>>157948
How is illustrating what evidence you would find 'satisfactory' "making my case"?

>>157949
Okay, let us repeat the cycle: >>153856

>>157951
So in summary
>Flat earthers dont do peer review cuz reasons
>Youll accept evidence that passes the scientific method, which includes peer review
Ergo, you admit that Flat earth claims - which are not peer reviewed - do not pass the acceptable threshold of evidence.

>>157954
Nope.
NASA heliocentric claims, on which you base your whole faith, fail the scientific method.
This thread is a monument to the truth and your hollow shilling a disgrace.

The whole point of peer review is so that other credible (read: experienced in the field) professionals can disprove or prove a theory's validity! It is equally about making sure the person(s) conducting the experiment didnt fuck anything up so that the findings can be validated. If flat earth theories ARE valid, where is the hesitation to publish? Let me guess, cuz masons.

>>157955
To be cursed by the devil is truly to be blessed -Unknown

>>157956
Just dropping by?
See >>157924

>>157958
Im citing that video. You cant reject peer review, and then claim to allow (peer reviewed) scientific method evidence. Your whole premise is based on non-peer-reviewed findings! That you dont comprehend that is evidence of how flimsy your premise is. Its not shilling to ask questions, nor is it shilling to observe the answers and 'evidence', find it laughably unsupportable, and then proceed to illustrate in a variety of ways how it is unsupportable.
It IS shilling to insist that one idea (yours) is correct without an overwhelming volume of evidence, including the peer review process.
Calculus. The only evidence you should need - that fulfills the criteria of peer review, an overwhelming volume of evidence, and universally congruent models - is Calculus. Somehow, I suspect you dont understand Calculus, because if you did we wouldnt be having this "conversation".

For those just tuning in, OP is operating under the premise that Scientific peer review is NOT
>I have all this evidence of a new set of findings!
<What? That cant be right, let me see. Hmmm, seems plausible. Let me conduct my own experiments and Ill report my findings
and is INSTEAD
>I have all this evidence of a new set of findings!
<What? That cant be allowed to get out, NASA and the masons and every religion have decreed the goyim must not know
And thats just the start!

>>157959
>peer review
If the governments' scientists would step on firm science then many years ago they had debated nut flat earthers and put them in shame, but they didn't and won't.
What we see is silence from them and propagandists doing the speaking. It is very telling indeed.
>I'm citing that video
And by doing so, you are twisting
>Your whole premise is based on non-peer-reviewed findings!
So? No NASA propagandist will try to deny the zoom experiments neither the laser ones; instead they do the same than you: to ignore the evidence and double down with the globe lie.

>>157961
>For those just tuning in, OP is operating under the premise that Scientific peer review is NOT
By the way, NASA claims fail the scientific method. There is not a curvature to be seen.

>>157963
The 'evidence' for this claim is refused to be peer reviewed, but expects to be taken as credible.

>>157964
Refused by who? When? How?
It is a fucking 1,000 dollars zoom camera a refusal to be reviewed?
It is to go to the shore and shoot a laser across the water a refusal to be reviewed?
It is to launch a camera in a balloon a refusal to be reviewed?
Any of the government employees wearing a lab coat can do that if instructed, but the won't do it. The means to disprove Flat Earth are easily available but they won't do it because they can't.

>>157965
What elevation was the laser and the receiver? What natural movement of the boat was caused by currents? Showing a video is not submitting for peer review. Peer review is where you identify EVERY TANGIBLE element to the experiment, document it, and indicate how the presence of each element DOESNT throw the results into astronomical (pun not intended) percentages of error. It is NOT
>Heres a video of us doing a thing. You guys claim it cant happen but we did it see?

>>157966
Lurk moar faggot.
>>157848

>>157967
No u. That experiment doesnt prove shit. An observer cant test whether their measurements are accurate. The ONLY result one can 'conclude' is that more testing is needed.

>>157963
>There is not a curvature to be seen.
Have you tried replicating the circumstances, and accounted for all the influential factors to prove that? All you would need is to build a model of the Earth in proportion to a Medigus microcamera (Assuming that it would represent a 5'6" person and build the rest of the model accordingly) and see how it would compare in viewing results on a flat Earth model and a round Earth model.

>>157968
Which, funny enough, is EXACTLY WHAT THE PEER REVIEW PROCESS IS FOR

>>157968
>No u. That experiment doesnt prove shit.
Suit yourself.

I just had a brilliant idea, have any of you ever thought of making computer simulation models?

All the tools are already out there for free. You just need to download Blender, Unity, or Unreal; build your experiments in those environments to reflect all of the determining factors and showing the difference between the results of a flat Earth model and a round Earth model. Then, once you post your results, distribute the pack (With a checksum to validate it's originality) for others to try out the experiment in their own.

Hell, even if you're not accustom to those environments, you could still try it in mod-friendly games like Half-Life, Doom 3, and GTA.
The only actually cost is the time it takes to build the experiment.

>more evidence
Vector Equilibrium

Let me explain why I feel the shard earth theory is plausible and the flat earth theory is not.
Understand, Nasa is full of shit.

>>157976
>phone buttons
Im coming at this with a professional engineering applied science (machining and fabrication of metal and lumber), AND a thoroughly tinfoil hat background. I refer to the interview between Credo Mutwa and David Icke on youtube. I find Credos story to be plausible, and the overa4ching story derived of that is that the planet experienced a cataclysm, and a giant chunk of the earth is missing. This would coincide with the passing of planet X on the 'anniversary' of the astrological alignment with the Giza plateau. Thats going to be the subject of the next post in thr History is a Lie thread, spoilers.

>>157977
Checking my dubs.
That theory allows for the diminished curvature of the planet, while still allowing for spheroid geometry to work everywhere except the earth, as flat earth claims. The moon is a gravitational counter-weight to allow the earth to maintain a stable orbit, and thats also why we only see one side of the moon. Nazis did escape to space on spacecraft taught by the vril (nordics, theyre referred to), mars used to be fully inhabited, the solar system got fucked.
I dont contest history is a lie, Im saying flat earth is an unsatisfactory theory to explain errors in the official narrative

Ergo, Antarctica is either a giant crater OR the border of what remains of a much larger planet that collided with the earth millennia ago, explaining the downfall from the heights of Atlantis, where we coexisted with countless alien races. They all watched it happen, and we are what is left of those who somehow survived

Excuse me, thats not accurate. Its the border of a much larger planet that WAS earth, that is now a smaller shard.

But its not 'flat', thats absurd.
mic drop

Oh yeah
>Mars
Used to be fully inhabited by humans and other races, still is by multiple races with a small contingent of human 'ambassadors' as it were, became surface uninhabitable when the cataclysm threw off its previous orbit with earth

>>157982
I havent been briefed or anything, I just worked it all out. Anyway, I guarantee all this shit is classified

>>157983
>I guarantee all this shit is classified
I've seen it for myself, it's all next to the classified documents about time traveling computers who have come to collect sperm samples of 21st century men and return to the 24th century because future humans have become sterile as a result of the moon colliding with the other end of our Earth shard and releasing all of it's radiation.

>>157983
This is why the theory of evolution doesnt add up, this is why the control systems are in place to maintain ignorance in the masses and allow an elite class who literally control our every move (the masons ARE involved, Ill admit that). This is why media control, financial control, locational control. This is a prison-planet in that humanity cant leave, and certain factions of alirn do do crazy spoopy shit. They also aid those who properly ask, and metaphysics is the proper way.

But the earth is not flat

Consider the above rant the first 'official' summary-publication of my amalgamated tinfoil hat theory that includes and is corroborated by crater/shard-earth theory, and therefore isnt off topic lol

>>157984
Hadnt heard that one, but it sounds plausible. Got any sauce before I dmor?
Also, the vaccine will have more to do with the sterilization of humanity than the planet strike, but yes there will be a planet strike

And now Ill do somethong flat earthers CANT do, Ill tell you why this matters.
Because its about to happen again. Planet x is still in its irregular yet stable orbit, and in the cosmic aftermath of its collision with the earth it now does a planetary flyby every 'so often', which explains the mud flood, and all the rest I will be going into in the history is a lie thread.

>>157989
(it mightve been the moon that collided with the earth, one cant be certain it was planet x, but one could surmise that planet x was involved)

>>157991
>a hollowed out planetoid/spacecraft that used to orbit planet x but was deliberately positioned to collide with the earth, but that would be silly
Why? Humanity is the only species in the known universe that can saw off it's only leg, then immediately get back up and start running again. Not to mention the horniest fuckers in the galaxy. Who WOULDN'T want to annihilate us when we're the stuff of nightmares?

>>157992
Obligatory.

>>157992
We didnt use to be, thats the point. The inhabitants of planet x didnt just wreck the earth, they fucked with the dna of the surviving humans and established their genetic offspring as the de facto rulers of a now stone age earth, with humanity as a slave race

>>157974
I have built solar system models for fun in Unity and OpenGL before (to the point at some point I realized I was replicating Orbiter, the simulator and decided to stop before I comitted to such a gargantuan project). But I love making simulations.
There is a flat Earth model simulation on Steam, but it's a joke.
I once saw an animation that portrayed the spiraling of the Sun and Moon over a flat Earth in a way that was realistic. I forgot what they're called, but there's these circular paper things that have rotating parts and map the trayectory of the Sun, the Moon and the stars over a whole year. That could be coded and expanded to make a flat Earth simulation.
However, in terms of optics, to account for the way we observe the atmosphere and whatnot, such a simulation would require insane (and possibly not yet fully known) things going on with difraction and distortion of light, atmospheric densities, etc.
A semi-realistic simulation. In contrast, the required mathematics and physics you need to know to begin implementing something like https://spaceengine.org/ are very basic in comparison. They complicate only as you ramp up realism and visual fidelity. And most important of all, what your simulation shows you matches perfectly with what you see when you look outside, from ground level, from a plane…, whatever.
>By clicking New Reply, I acknowledge the existence of the Israeli nuclear arsenal.
LOL. I had not noticed this until now.

>>157980
Wouldn't such a shard collapse into a spheroid fairly quickly (in geological scale) due to its own gravity?

>>158021
Sorry for the triple post, but I just remembered. It's a planisphere. I once saw one like pic related with removable layers that showed the movement of the Sun and the Moon over the four seasons, and it accounted for things like eclipses, even.
But see, that's the thing. At its best, the flat Earth model is just a projection of observations made from a sphere into a circle.
And I say flat Earth is a projection from a sphere and not the inverse because so far flat Earth fails to account for a few key observations such as 24 h sunlight in Antartica, Moon image reversals, precession of the equinoxes or parallax in stars over extended periods of time without resorting to all-knowing all-powerful gaslighting conspirators or extremely complex physics and math gymnastics that involve new problems and contradictions with the existing model.

>>158023
>key observations such as 24 h sunlight in Antartica
For the time being it is only a myth as no independent witness can corroborate it.

>>158022
I guess? I imagine it would depend on how much was left and what that shape is, but I could also see the presence of the moon acting like a form of gravity field counter-balance to offset? Pure speculation

>>158026
Gravity doesn't exist.

>>158025
>For the time being it is only a myth as no independent witness can corroborate it.
>independent
See, the problem is that most flat earthers only accept their own experience there as "independent". They would sooner contemplate the idea of a family member who claimed such experience being a paid shill than considering they might be wrong.

Anyway, I found this video, which I think contains enough information to be implementable as an interactive 3D simulation. I'm getting really hard just thinking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYv7gpFc_7o

>>158028
>See, the problem is that most flat earthers only accept their own experience there as "independent".
If the witness is on a masonic payroll and bounded by legal coercion, then it is not independent.

>>158029
And the criteria by which you know whether they are on a masonic payroll is whether they are against flat Earth.

>>158030
>And the criteria...
For that you need to lurk moar. Redpilling is a process that cannot be hurried.

I've hit my first stumbling block trying to implement a flat Earth simulation.
In order for the terminator to be a straight line across all the meridians, the Sun light source would need to be placed at an infinite distance. Otherwise it's always curved. You can see it in the second gif in the OP. The surface on which that sun is shining has some sort of distortion. It's not flat (ironically).
Can someone point me to the measurements and distances proposed by the flat Earth theory? It would make implementing this much easier. Thanks.

>>158032
>flat Earth theory
Fact. The curvature is debunked.

>>158033
Can you point me to measurements and distances so I can implement a 3D model of the flat Earth correctly modeled please?

>>158034
The most accurate one, to my knowledge, was posted in this thread month ago. Look for it.

It would be great if any glober could explain the following, it is damning at least for the scientists and academics on a payroll since this detail in the heliocentric model cannot escape their attention and only willing deception can explain their silence:

>Daylight Debunks the Globe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlNhPXCH5cA
Mirror:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Daylight-Debunks-the-Globe:0

>>158036
You cant grasp how the slight extention of progress (4 minutes a day) translates to a 90 degree correction over a 3 month period?
Lets get real simple. 4 min/day x 365 days/year = 1460 accrued minutes per year. Mathematically, that means 24.33 hours per year.
But wait now, we're going quarterly. Okay, 6 hours per quarter.
Hmmm, 6 hours per 3 month period. 6 hours is - wait for it- the amount of time it takes to rotate 90 devrees.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Try again.

I found a channel with a model that seems descriptive enough to implement as a 3D simulation. However, the mathematical hoops involved are absolutely insane. This is much more complicated than creating a 3D globular planetarium. And the guy has the gall to say that the globe is based on "mathematical impossibilities". What the actual fuck man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LREtlSGsCV0
>>158036
See >>158037
You can find many ways this is explained in the video comments:
>When the earth spins on its axis, it points back in the same direction every 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4.09 seconds. It then takes another 3 minutes and 55.51 seconds to point back at the sun. Humans chose 24 hours to be from noon to noon based on the sun, not based on the position of the stars.
>3:47 "how come no one else in the world before us ever discovered that the 24 hour day is incorrect by 4 minutes?"
>this isn't true, i can for certainty that the Romans knew about this as early and before Julius Caesar.
>the consuls used to have adjust Rome's calendar regularly.
>Julius Caesar wanted the process to no longer require Consul to perform, so he automated the process by simply adding the concept of the leap to the calendars

>>158028
Another problem with flat earthers - specifically the more delusional variety - is that there is often a lived sense of helplessness, that the thought "Ive been lied to" is very gratifying, as it allows them to 'break free' of their 'intellectual bondage'. The problem then becomes that their theory is juvenile in the least. As Ive ind8cated, I concur with OP that the planet is not a sphere, or if it is its a highly modified one. However, one model co forms with natural laws and ohenomenon, whereas the other attempts to throw out things that are so observably endemic that one wonders. This creates a double trap. They cant go back to the pure globe model, and theyre supporting a model that is quite unsupportable.
Then they have to realize that they emancipated themselves from one intellectual prison and into another one, which many people simply are either unable or unwilling to do.

>>158039
>Then they have to realize that they emancipated themselves from one intellectual prison and into another one, which many people simply are either unable or unwilling to do.
That is an interesting observation. Not long ago I discussed with a friend how most people who "believe the Earth is round" do so because it is the consensus. They are, in fact, no different than most flat Earthers. They chose a consensus, usually by emotional attachment, and defend it as Truth when in reality it is Belief.
I think this crisis of truth and trust we are living in has the potential to emancipate a lot of us intellectually. To realize that as long as they are applicable to any part of empirical experience, models don't need to be exclusive. They illuminate part of Truth. And no model illuminates all of it anyway.
The problem lies in pretending any one model or map of reality is Truth, and is absolute. The Aquarian age is holocentric. That's why we're having crisis in which no dogma seems to be able to dominate, and it will be even more so in the decades to come. Only those able to transcend cognitive dissonance, duality and polarization will survive intellectually (and possibly spiritually). The rest will be forever NPCs stuck in the hells they themselves create.

>>158040
It might just be semantics, but there appears to be an element of intellectual dishonesty to it. I freely admit I hve no first-hand evidence that the planet is any: sphere, shard, flat, pony. The confidence I have in the models I will argue (sphere/shard) is derived from their interconnectivity. Math constants lead to math constants, etc. Flat Earthers believe (as in conviction) and proclaim "This is debunked" when its not, "This is true" when the evidence doesnt aupport, and impugn the motives of anyone who argues against. And the sheer arrogance is baffling.

>>158041
>Flat Earthers believe (as in conviction) and proclaim "This is debunked" when its not,
Let's go back to the very basics, if the curvature is not found, then the whole heliocentric theory falls in a spectacular fashion.
You can spin it any way you like, BUT, if there is no curve, then there are not any globe and space.

>>158045
Please, continue to display your ignorance of evidence.

>>158046
>evidence
Deny this >>157848

Refute THIS (protip: you can't)

>>158048
If that example is about the claim that the curvature can't be seen from the surface of the Earth because of its size, then let me take you to the very foundations of the globe lie and the beginning of this bread:
See >>149071 >>149168
Again, your post shows that you need to lurk moar.

>>158051
It's about the claim that flat is justice, lmao.

>>158047
Theres nothing to deny. More experimentation needed, I told you that.

>curvature
https://youtu.be/EQa4u_Xgy8Q
Start at about 41:00 to 45:00
See what I did there? I actually know what counts as evidence, and rather than demand you pour through shit, I focused on the tangible part. Thats what you do in an argument, instead of petulent demands and proclamations

And for more of the meta of Flat Earth
https://youtu.be/umo6pMCkcXs
>pics semi related, but more to get that shit off the homepage

>>158055
>SciManDan
That NASA shill is famous, there are hundreds of videos from him and about him debunking and rebunking every topic. Worth to watch for entertainment purposes.
>>158056
I watched it a bit and is all about character assassination (optics) going so far as to call the opposition anti-semite. It is not serious and lacks of scientific arguments when the video creator has to resort to buzzing words.

>>158057
So, you didnt watch the 4 minutes I specify,where you can see an ocean tanker halfway down the horizon?

>>158057
>that guy is a shill
Literal strawman ad hominem. Two for one. Bravo. Also, you never claim he's wrong, probably because he understands evidence and presents it

>>158059
>Also, you never claim he's wrong, probably because he understands evidence and presents it
There is something very interesting about SciManDan, for every video he releases debunking X, 2 or 3 counter-videos pop up to refute his claims. But it gets still more interesting when he launches a second one to "crash" the video responses and of course, more videos responding him show up. It never ends.
I stop watching them long ago because you will never know who really won the argument.

>>158060
Thats a lovely exposition that in no way addressed the barges halfway down the horizon. Focus, nigger.

>>158061
I watched a video debunking that video, but I can't find it.

Since I KNOW youre dumb and stupid, heres the stills

>>158063
>stills
That has to do with the vanishing point of perspective, nigger.

>>158065
>stupid
As I said

>>158061
We’ve managed so far to keep this thread to degenerate into name calling. That’s quite a feat for a flat Earth thread.
For all we know, the whole thing could be engineered to pit the goys against each other. Don’t fall for it. We are civilized spiritual beings.

>>158069
*from degenerating

>>158069
Thats not true at all, Ive been called many names thus far.

>>158041
I have come across a very relevant reflection on this issue of knowing while reading The Ahrimanic Deception by Rudolf Steiner. This is not a coincidence.

>>158075
Well, its more basic than that really. The opposite of Entropy is Faith.

>>158098
Let me just clarify. You dont see anything wrong with that video, is that correct?

LOL the comment section is GOLD! Some of the finest schadenfreude Ive ever experienced!
Yet, interspersed are some comments worth sharing.

>>158100
>Some of the finest schadenfreude Ive ever experienced!
I know that feeling, it is glorious to see how fanatic and illogical globers are.

>>158101
Might wanna see this
>>158063

More grist for the mill
https://youtu.be/rjYc8h3xt-E
>Inside Flat Earth: An Exposè by an Ex-Flat Earther

>>158101
>lol globers amirite?
To this point, no. 95% of the comments are vapid "I believe!" posts, often displaying a fundamental lack of comprehension of how evidence, physics, and the scientific method works. But as I indicated, there are occasional posts showing these theories fornthe hogwash they are.

>>158103
>Ex-Flat Earther
I really doubt it. Once redpilled there's not going back.
>SciManDan
Nothing else to add.

>>158105
Wow, rejection without investigation. How very consistent of you. Its no wonder you can unironocally believe/tout this horseshit

>>158106
>rejection without investigation
Projecting much? Huh?

>>158107
>n.. no u!
Lol, what else do you call this but ignorance (as in, ignoring)?
>I really doubt it. Once redpilled there's not going back.

>>158063
I mean ffs, you wont even look at the photos. Because you know, those photos are impossible on a flat earth. I will reiterate, Im not saying the earth is a perfect sphere and Ive made that case earlier ITT. I agree, there are plenty of questions to be asked.

But these pics are impossible on a flat earth, which is why you wont look. Its a pity I cant A. repost the images, and B. delete the post (so I can repost the pics), since I know that even with Mlpol's way-better-than-4chan linked-post-view you wont even slick the link.
But just in case.
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>>158063
For the record, Im being petulent because that seems to be the only thing that somehow gets through your skulls

For those of you who come to this thread to argue with those who made it, you should really learn to sage.

>>158110
Why, cuz its gonna slide off the board if done so? Have you seen the /vx/ catalog?

>>158111
How new to chansites are you? You don't bump stuff if you don't want to see it, because that perpetuates it. This is the same behavior that ruined /pol/, because the /ptg/ newfags don't know how to avoid bumping shill threads.

>>158113
Whoever said I didnt want people to see it? Sunlight is the best disinfectant anon.

If (you) dont want to see it, apply filters. Shill threads are going nowhere cuz policy. This is about conditioning.

>>158114
No it fucking isn't. This is the internet, and anonymous to boot. Don't spread shitty memes.

>>158116
>no it isnt
Youre entitled to your opinion, but this really doesnt pertain to the thread. Your objections have been noted and summarily dismissed as immaterial. Anything else?

>>158117
Just stop bumping it if you don't like it.

>>158120
Just learn to sage.

>>158122
Then just keep being a nigger I guess.

>>158123
Can we get back to the topic now? Much as I appreciate the attention, its not pertinent to the thread.

>>158123
This.

>globers gonna globe
WOW! I left for a few hours and all these new posts.

Everything is perspective on flat earth.

>>158137
Do they offer any proof or evidence to suggest this visualization, or is it pure speculation in an attempt to fit the theory? I mean, if flat earth were true as depicted, it could be confirmed by 5 people on a conference call, each operating cameras and surveying the sun.
Why hasnt that happened. It would be far easier than tbose hobby rockets and retardedly flawed laser experiments

>>158138
*from separate continents

Also OP, would you be a dear and specify which version of the flat earth mind virus theory you orescribe to? Is it the firmament dome? Plasma disk moon and sun? Are they on the dome, or are they way behind the dome?
At what point do the observable laws pf physics cease to function, and/or what causes their appearance of function.

And the big question:
How long before a predictive model, in which the observable phenomena can be explained using a flat earth, that is cohesive with all the other observable phenomena?

>Space is Scientifically Impossible!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avsCM5lrfN4
More redpills.

>>158144
Jesus Christ,....
>cherry-picked 10-sec clip
Im sure the revised explanation was ommitted because you're so committed to science, right?
>We put a beakur under a glass shroud and tha water escaped!
It doest appear to escape, it appears to diffuse throughout the glass chamber, in fact you can see the point it forms a 4th phasic seal
Oh you dont know what the 4th phase is?
Unsurprising. When water molecules reach a sufficiently excited state - such as when being pulled in one direction by gravity and pulled in the other by vaccuum, they change their configuration from H20 and reforms as H3O2.
H3O2 is orders of magnitude more dense per volume, and is part of the active process that constitutes the Ozone layer that makes a pressurized atmosphere possible, however the water would need to remain in a constantly excited state. Like, if it was at the border of an atmosphere and a vaccuum.
<back to our example
Atmospheric pressure is what enables gravity to operate as a force. Thats why outside the atmosphere (you could liken the atmosphere as an 'event horizon', though not an onerous one as is proposed borders a black hole) is a vaccuum.
>Sea level pressure- 1013.25
>Space pressure- .0000000000000000133
Golly, its almost like the greater dual-force applied on the molecular structure of h3o2 causes a magnification to the structural density of the water due to magnified excitation.
>The water escaped the beaker!
Uh huh, its a vaccuum. Thats what vaccuums do, they distribute molecular material throughout the space until reaching molecular equilibrium. Try adding enough water to the point that the water vapor saturates and starts to condense (read: try FILLING the beaker).
The rest is a series of fallacious conclusions based on the initial fallacious claim.

Still waiting for you to rationalize those boat pics!

>>158145
Correction, the last few minutes actually argues my point funny enough. Thanks for that.

>>158145
>bringing forward rare molecules to obfuscate
>all based on the mythical gravity
And yet, gas masses and fictitious space vacuum cannot co-exist, it is an Impossibility.

>>158147
>I dont know about a thing so its invalid, so gravity is fake
Textbook ignorance

>>158149
>textbook blind faith
Gravity cannot be proven to exist. It is a theory, not a fact.

>>158152
That is a true statement only in subjective perception.
(read: belief =/= truth)

Ill rephrase. Your conviction to flat earth speculation does not make it true, nor does it invalidate the testable, conclusive evidence that such speculation is false.
But of course you can plug you ears and 'la la la' all you want, Ive got plenty more evidince to produce for every laughable insinuated and poorly controlled experiment/video you produce.

>>158153
>That is a true statement only in subjective perception
You were saying?

>>158155
Whoa there, those are some awfully mainstream science sources. You said theyre all a bunch of masons, in on the deception! I guess they arent when it helps your argument?
>You were saying?
Read the articles fgt
>pic related

>>158156
>general relativity
>Eistein pseudo science
Let's go to the root of relativity and derived branches of "theoretical physics", it is nothing more than stunts with numbers that can't be demonstrated in a lab. It is also called charlatanry.
See >>152559

>>158157
Gravity only has the 'title' of theiry becausr they havent yet composed a model that accounts for gravity in quantum-physocal framework. Beyond that there are precise and thoroughly vetted (read: no one can disprove in spite of trying to make a name for themselves by disproving) their models.
Which brings me to the most glaring issue witb flat earthers.
Ego. Everyone wants to be 'the guy' or 'group' that has special knowledge and gets the crediy (or assumes the credit by identifying with the group) unique and better understanding. The problem is, it takes more than watching youtube videos to reach that point even if that was even possible in context.

Any day now, a pr3dictive model would be good. While I wait, address the boats.

>Beyond that, there are precise and thoroughly vetted mathematical models that conform to observed experimental phenomena. Meaning, the data matches the hypothesis, except when getting into quantum physics
Apologies, thats what I meant to say. I get all excited grtting to continually beat a person who wants more. I imagine thats what happend with Tyson in the beginning of that video, and why the clarification was ommitted.

>>158159
>Meaning, the data matches the hypothesis,
I beg to disagree. The methodology used by these hacks is to create mathematical models, not data, to match the hypothesis.

>>158160
Its literally the opposite, and thats literally what flatties do

>>158162
Ahem.
I remind you of >>158157

>>158163
Yes, its theoretical mathematics because it operates at an infinitesimal level that it cant be effectivrly measured with ones eyes. Its not like you can hold a ruler up to it.
And yet the same video that attempts to cstigate modern science by presenting previous credible - by the video's own admission - scientists [i]all of whom had directly cohesive solar and astronomical charts, only varying with the increased precision of the medium. Copernucus for example, determined the orbits of the planets, but he couldnt get it quite right becausr he thought that the orbit was a c8rcle rather than an oblate. Same goes for pre/post Newton, in determining the shape of the planet.

You cant say its all bullshit, and then cite past scientists with contemporary ones, claiming the previous ones were doing it right. Thats a logical fallacy.
Either 1. The earth is flat and its all wrong OR
2. The earth is not flat, and there are elements to the equation that we cant yet account for, given the limited capacity of humans and the amount of time its taken to get as precise as it is.

>oblate
Elipse*
Okay fine, Ill sage my addendums and corrections. Im not unreasonable XP

>>158164
>Yes, its theoretical mathematics because it operates at an infinitesimal level that it cant be effectivrly measured with ones eyes. Its not like you can hold a ruler up to it.
Isn't an overused example is the "Double Slit" experiment, where they keep having the results change every time the experiment is performed, prompting the logical conclusion that more tests need to be performed in under to understand it's intricacies.

And, retards foam at the mouth as an example of how "Quantum Physics is MAGIC".

>>158171
Are you seriously trying to imply theres no validity to the double slit experiment?

>>158164
>You cant say its all bullshit, and then cite past scientists with contemporary ones, claiming the previous ones were doing it right.
You can in your particular case because, while Copernucus and Newton were raving about their flowed understanding of the universe, there was the Greek Antikythera device from 150 BC that was rotting at the bottom of the Aegean sea that perfectly calculates the movement of the planets, the sun, and the stars down to a T.

>>158172
No, I was implying that the double slit experiment is an example of where more data is require to understand the phenominon, but that doesn't stop your average idiot from trying to use it as am example of how science is "magic".

>>158173
So glad you mentioned it
>ancient greek device that accurately charts the planets n stars n shit
Almost like theyre in orbit around the planet that isnt flat, without negating the possibikity of orbits and shit
>THEY were precise tho, and we arent today
I of all people will not contest that ancient cultures were more advanced than modern day, thats one of the salient points of the History is a Lie thread. That you dont realize how that supports my argument is baffling.
>>158174
>magic
Wow strawman
Expectations of the observer that has an observable effect on the experiment, are you denying that?

>>158175
Wait, who are you arguing with?

>>158176
Im arguing with the assertion that theres a firmament dome on a flat earth and that space is a fabrication, when there exost anc8ent devices by which that can be proven false.

Dear Flat Earthers

if the earth is not round why are Radio Towers and Trebuchets designed with the curvature of the earth in mind?

>>158207
That's what we are told.

>>158252
>they faked that too?
In absence of space, that is the most plausible explanation.

>>158253
Imagine unironically saying this

>50 Scientific Facts for the Downfall of Modern Astronomy (Videobook)
>In the interest of preserving for posterity the wealth of flat Earth knowledge and research done during the late 19th and early 20th century, I am continuing a series of audiobook and PDF downloads to make them more easily and widely available. Today's selection is Ebenezer Breach's 1896 booklet "50 Scientific Facts for the Downfall of Modern Astronomy." You can download the free PDF here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/haj0ft8pllkitsy/ebenezer_breach-the_downfall_of_modern_astronomy.pdf?dl=0
>Please Note: Ebenezer Breach was a literalist Christian and makes a few points in this booklet which are clearly not scientific, and potentially not even facts. He also made his own astronomical measurements and had his own figures for the diameter and distance of the Sun, Moon and stars which differed from other 19th century flat Earthers, who themselves didn't have a consensus, other than to always be working with tens, hundreds and thousands, rather than the heliocentrist's millions, billions and trillions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk8hwjceGLo
Mirrors:
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/50-scientific-facts-for-the-downfall-of-modern-astronomy-videobook_x4FmCMlheQbd3qY.html
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/50-Scientific-Facts-for-the-Downfall-of-Modern-Astronomy-(Videobook):8
https://www.bitchute.com/video/N9xpGEDH2hFA/

>>158048
Little girls truly are the best

I post this for the globers. I truly doubt they will grasp the concept.

>Black Sun and Moon Phases Explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpj1kha4Ug

>>158414
By the way, I understand that access to the north pole is also forbidden as men with guns are guarding it.

>>158416
>men with guns are guarding it
You talking about the Russians securing their oil reserves?

>How the moon happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qo7uKmtA3Y
Another one on the Black Sun and the Moon.

>>158414
So, a model that consiats of more than basic sketches should be forthcoming right? I mean, if that actually worked, it should be a simple matter to make a predictive model right? Nevermind the
>the sun and the moon are holograms
assertion, lets see a model.
>158557
>gets the compass and square backward
>look guise, its totally the same! These arre the sekretz obs da maysons
This is why most people need guidance and direction in their initiation. Its very easy to misinterpret and misappropriate meaning from occult symbols

>>158558
>This is why most people need guidance and direction in their initiation. Its very easy to misinterpret and misappropriate meaning from occult symbols
Yeah. It is not what it seems. It is all product of imagination. /s

>>158559
No, it definitely requires a Cypher to properly decode it all. Without that cypher however, one does tend to get blown away on flights of fancy, as evidenced in this video

>>158560
>Cypher
If for cypher you mean Gematria, then all is already set. Freemasonry is Kabbalism for the goyim and its sorcery is almost public.

>>158561
Again, if that were the case, a model would be easily concocted, with easily established values.

Bump

To both remind flaggits which thread IS the flat earth thread, AND to propose a challenge which would give credit to the theory

We know gubmints wont allow entry to antarctica without authorization, whatever that REALLY means (again, no contest, its spoopy).
Why then doesnt someone sail around the perimeter of antarctica - in whatever way you want to visualize - and plot their trajectory? It would make very clear very fast which way the boat was steering, as well as the distances travelled.

>>158740
>Why then doesnt someone sail around the perimeter of antarctica
Read the thread and search it for Captain Cook.
>>149114
>>149115
>>149629

>>158743
Yes! Cook's account is valid, but inconclusive! But I know someone somewhere has the means to livestream the shit, in current year. It will take me a couple decades to manage on my own, but if it hasn't happened by then I absolutely will. Indpendently manned and heavily vetted and doxed for transparency. Like, everyone subject to the third degree oh shit, that was a masonic reference! It literally was, where do you think the term 'giving the 3rd degree comes from? and made public.
And by made public, I mean in a convenient file attached to video records, not citations.

And for clarity, I mean sail at least once, with overlapped cameras cycling their video times ensuring all equipment maintenance is likewise filmed, with live location, compass, etc coordinates visible

Twilight knows. Equestria is flat.

>>158804
Twilight is too smart to believe in a flat equestria

>>158816
Ahem.
See >>149265

>>158816
Equestria is not Earth. It could easily be flat.
At the very least, the sun and moon are smaller that the world.

>>158836
Oh my God! Discord used a turn of phrase and the ponies are looking at a map, It Must be Flat!
>>158840
Its Not Flat, And twilight is too High IQ to believe that it is.

>>158844
It's not necessarily round either though.
Equestria is a fantasy world. It could be shaped like anything. The fact that the Equestria doesn't orbit its sun leaves the door open to completely different cosmologies.

>Dear Spinning Ball Earth Believer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkjjsvgdsZ8
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/DearSpinningBallEarthBeliever:9
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RoARro8TsSf7/

>>159481
>>159482
Bullshit.
With a telescope can be brought it into a full view as shown over and over in this thread.
You are a deceiver.

>>159485
>your photograph evidence of landmarks viewed over planetary curvature are BULLSHIT! cuz I SAY SO!

Reiterating. Pic related displays curvature. Curvature is impossible on a flat earth.
Ergo, there cant be a flat earth.

>>159468
>>159481
>>159482
>>159485
>>159486
For posterity

>>159488
Still waiting
>>158063

>>159488
Also, to clarify:
If one operates off the premise of this linked post, and the subsequently linked posts then OP alleges:
Ita circular reasoning(logic) to refute rhetorical/spurious posturing (see >>159468) especially with unarguable photographic (read: not subject to interpretation) evidence or else it's 'bullshit' for reasons that you're not allowed to know cuz (you) are in on the NASA-masonic conspiracy

Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk

>>159490
>Still waiting
If you believe Earth is round because a local optical effect on perspective, then you have a loooooooong way before to come to your senses.
The pile of evidence disproving the ball and cementing the plane is overwhelming.

>>159492
>wont respond to literal still-frames that refute entire premise
>claims others wont come to their senses
Still waiting on the refutation of Calculus, while we're at it, which wouldnt work if the earth was flat

>>159488
It's spherical logic actually, you are just to dumb to understand it.

>>159842
Both of these retards

>>150294
https://youtube.com/shorts/TVV4TSi9A6k?feature=share
https://www.space220fla.com/
Oh look, Disney made a 220 mile-high elevator, with a restaurant at the top.
Let me guess, its fake?