This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
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>>164063
Hendrik Brouwer (Dutch explorer who developed the route through the current in the early 1600s for spice trade with India)
James Cook (circumnavigated the polar region, iirc he's specifically mentioned by Dubay)
Vito Dumas did so single-handedly during WWII without any knowledge or assistance from world governments
I'll keep looking if you need more names
Hendrik Brouwer (Dutch explorer who developed the route through the current in the early 1600s for spice trade with India)
James Cook (circumnavigated the polar region, iirc he's specifically mentioned by Dubay)
Vito Dumas did so single-handedly during WWII without any knowledge or assistance from world governments
I'll keep looking if you need more names
>>164064
Dude, I sailed the Drake channel 10 years ago two times, I know the place and is hell when choppy, the strong currents are normal because the waters accelerate at that point. Frequently and unexpected weather conditions are the norm, they change without warning in a matter of a couple of hours.
Dude, I sailed the Drake channel 10 years ago two times, I know the place and is hell when choppy, the strong currents are normal because the waters accelerate at that point. Frequently and unexpected weather conditions are the norm, they change without warning in a matter of a couple of hours.
>>164066
have you circumnavigated at that latitude? All of these people mentioned (excepting Brouwer) did.
have you circumnavigated at that latitude? All of these people mentioned (excepting Brouwer) did.
>>164068
so you went round Cape Horn. I'm... proud? of you? but by your reckoning you're missing about 50 thousand miles of journey.
so you went round Cape Horn. I'm... proud? of you? but by your reckoning you're missing about 50 thousand miles of journey.
>>164070
Sure. We're getting off track. I've provided plenty of sources for you to look into. Are you willing to do so, or are we discounting every circumpolar expedition to ever happen as wrong?
Sure. We're getting off track. I've provided plenty of sources for you to look into. Are you willing to do so, or are we discounting every circumpolar expedition to ever happen as wrong?
>>164071
>I've provided plenty of sources for you to look into
The only trusted source is your own eyes. Sailing there without interference.
>I've provided plenty of sources for you to look into
The only trusted source is your own eyes. Sailing there without interference.
>>164072
Then why reference all these ancient and modern sources when you haven't seen these things with your own eyes? This isn't a disputed fact. Your sources confirm it, my sources confirm it, ball earth sources confirm it, there's a current that goes steadly east to west round the world at the latitudes south of the three southern capes and north of Antarctica. Nobody disputes this that's been round the world at that latitude, including sources you yourself have put forward. Its established fact.
Then why reference all these ancient and modern sources when you haven't seen these things with your own eyes? This isn't a disputed fact. Your sources confirm it, my sources confirm it, ball earth sources confirm it, there's a current that goes steadly east to west round the world at the latitudes south of the three southern capes and north of Antarctica. Nobody disputes this that's been round the world at that latitude, including sources you yourself have put forward. Its established fact.
>>164075
okay, I'm not disputing the map, the shape of the earth, or any other point you've brought up. I simply want to know what your explanation is for an established, fairly stable circumpolar current (and I suppose the winds that go with it, but that's very likely explainable in your model by the motion of the water)
okay, I'm not disputing the map, the shape of the earth, or any other point you've brought up. I simply want to know what your explanation is for an established, fairly stable circumpolar current (and I suppose the winds that go with it, but that's very likely explainable in your model by the motion of the water)
>>164077
Independent research has been done and matches the facts I've presented. If its not independent enough for you, I'm terribly sorry, but if someone who is actively hiding from world governments (Vito Dumas) makes the claim, I'm going to call them independent
Independent research has been done and matches the facts I've presented. If its not independent enough for you, I'm terribly sorry, but if someone who is actively hiding from world governments (Vito Dumas) makes the claim, I'm going to call them independent
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>>164079
I accept your concession.
By the way, if you'd just said "it matches up when you view the whole oceanic current map in context of the flat earth" I would have probably taken you at face value, but you're so tied to the very few sources you have that you can't do independent research yourself.
I still don't know if your theory has any merit, but I'm 100% sure now that you, personally, do not.
I accept your concession.
By the way, if you'd just said "it matches up when you view the whole oceanic current map in context of the flat earth" I would have probably taken you at face value, but you're so tied to the very few sources you have that you can't do independent research yourself.
I still don't know if your theory has any merit, but I'm 100% sure now that you, personally, do not.
>>164080
In fact, I'm going to go absolutely top tier schizophrenic here and note a few things.
In this diagram, the redder a current, the warmer its water, and per established science, these are the surface currents, whilst cold blue currents are usually much deeper. IF your polar gyre exists, you could explain these currents as warm water being sucked into the pole from the surface, and cold water being pushed back down through the deep ocean. This removes the need for a "breathing" gyre and allows a much more plausible forceful, periodic underswell, possibly because this supposed northern polar whirlpool exists inland on the aforementioned 4 islands, and it "runs out" of water because its recycling effect exceeds the inflow of surface water. Since the land surface, per Dubay, rests ON the ocean, not on underlying crust, this allows for a massive inflow of water to the central reservoir, a relatively quick emptying of the reservoir _under_ the land surface, and a repeat.
There, I just answered your question for you, since you're completely incapable of independent thought.
In fact, I'm going to go absolutely top tier schizophrenic here and note a few things.
In this diagram, the redder a current, the warmer its water, and per established science, these are the surface currents, whilst cold blue currents are usually much deeper. IF your polar gyre exists, you could explain these currents as warm water being sucked into the pole from the surface, and cold water being pushed back down through the deep ocean. This removes the need for a "breathing" gyre and allows a much more plausible forceful, periodic underswell, possibly because this supposed northern polar whirlpool exists inland on the aforementioned 4 islands, and it "runs out" of water because its recycling effect exceeds the inflow of surface water. Since the land surface, per Dubay, rests ON the ocean, not on underlying crust, this allows for a massive inflow of water to the central reservoir, a relatively quick emptying of the reservoir _under_ the land surface, and a repeat.
There, I just answered your question for you, since you're completely incapable of independent thought.
>>164083
C'mon, it is obvious that it is about to make fun of a dumbass that can barely articulate his thoughts.
The NASA ballers can rapidly extinguish the Flat Earth discoveries if debate is arranged, but, like the jews they won't do that and pick on low hanging fruits instead while claiming to be on the right.
Imagine if the negro tyson would debate Dubay, but... NASA knows that will be PR disaster.
C'mon, it is obvious that it is about to make fun of a dumbass that can barely articulate his thoughts.
The NASA ballers can rapidly extinguish the Flat Earth discoveries if debate is arranged, but, like the jews they won't do that and pick on low hanging fruits instead while claiming to be on the right.
Imagine if the negro tyson would debate Dubay, but... NASA knows that will be PR disaster.
>>164085
Thanks. The problem here seems to be that Dubay has an extremely compelling and calming voice. I watched his history of flat earth and I was honesty a little hooked until he went on his autistic tard rage about the flat earth society
Thanks. The problem here seems to be that Dubay has an extremely compelling and calming voice. I watched his history of flat earth and I was honesty a little hooked until he went on his autistic tard rage about the flat earth society
>>164087
>Tyson wont argue rhetoric with a virtual child cuz NASA is scared of the blowback
Imagine unironically thinking this
>Tyson wont argue rhetoric with a virtual child cuz NASA is scared of the blowback
Imagine unironically thinking this
>>164086
>>164091
NASA had to sell all its infrastructure to Elon Musk and outsource its rocks to Russia to stay afloat, and it still can't get congress to fund any of its projects (gotta send that tax money to Israel for their space program instead). Wtf do you think they have the funding to do that?
>>164091
NASA had to sell all its infrastructure to Elon Musk and outsource its rocks to Russia to stay afloat, and it still can't get congress to fund any of its projects (gotta send that tax money to Israel for their space program instead). Wtf do you think they have the funding to do that?
>>164072
>this much goalpost moving
So, you'll only accept direct, personal empirical evidence for ideas that challege your worldview, but you're willing to cite sketchy youtube videos for ones that reinforce it?
Talk about hypocrisy.
>this much goalpost moving
So, you'll only accept direct, personal empirical evidence for ideas that challege your worldview, but you're willing to cite sketchy youtube videos for ones that reinforce it?
Talk about hypocrisy.
>>164086
>NASA paid shill
Citation unironically needed. I wasted an hour looking for any real evidence of this.
>NASA paid shill
Citation unironically needed. I wasted an hour looking for any real evidence of this.
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OP is a retarded faggot.
>>164098
welcome to the Flat Earth thread, where "paid shill" means "disagrees with my retarded ideology"
welcome to the Flat Earth thread, where "paid shill" means "disagrees with my retarded ideology"
I think this may fit here:
>Russian space chief speaks out on UFOs
https://www.sott.net/article/468677-Russian-space-chief-speaks-out-on-UFOs
>Russian space chief speaks out on UFOs
https://www.sott.net/article/468677-Russian-space-chief-speaks-out-on-UFOs
>>164117
Well, in the last months the UFO psyop went into overdrive in the States, now the Russians join. Is any doubt left that they are together in the space deception?
Well, in the last months the UFO psyop went into overdrive in the States, now the Russians join. Is any doubt left that they are together in the space deception?
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>V-2 Rocket Films (FLAT) Earth in (1946) - (2:02 long)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVA3TlB_AzM
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@DITRH:f/v-2-rocket-films-(flat)-earth-in-(1946):a
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2XEoiKjE4kAJ/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVA3TlB_AzM
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@DITRH:f/v-2-rocket-films-(flat)-earth-in-(1946):a
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2XEoiKjE4kAJ/
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>Van Halen - FLAT EARTH.
Good music.
Good music.
>>148614
rate of rotation is not measured in mph.
The earth rotates at 7.29x10^-5 rads/s. Of course you can't feel it spinning. If you were on a roundabout that was spinning at that rate, you would not even be able to see it moving let alone feel anything.
rate of rotation is not measured in mph.
The earth rotates at 7.29x10^-5 rads/s. Of course you can't feel it spinning. If you were on a roundabout that was spinning at that rate, you would not even be able to see it moving let alone feel anything.
>>164125
>rate of rotation is not measured in mph
And yet on the surface and according to the freemasons we are moving at incredible speeds.
>rate of rotation is not measured in mph
And yet on the surface and according to the freemasons we are moving at incredible speeds.
>>164127
>You tried
Nope, that faggot is trying to obfuscate when bringing angular speeds which are supposedly constant.
>You tried
Nope, that faggot is trying to obfuscate when bringing angular speeds which are supposedly constant.
>>163908
Dark matter has exactly zero relavence to flat earth. Yes the models are incomplete this is known. But they are more than sufficient to describe our solar system. Even classic newtonian gravity is good enough for the most part.
Dark matter has exactly zero relavence to flat earth. Yes the models are incomplete this is known. But they are more than sufficient to describe our solar system. Even classic newtonian gravity is good enough for the most part.
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