This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
>>164061I'm not. The circumpolar ocean current starts at the southern tip of South America.
>>164063Hendrik Brouwer (Dutch explorer who developed the route through the current in the early 1600s for spice trade with India)
James Cook (circumnavigated the polar region, iirc he's specifically mentioned by Dubay)
Vito Dumas did so single-handedly during WWII without any knowledge or assistance from world governments
I'll keep looking if you need more names
>>164064oh, and Jon Sanders of Australia has done it 11 times.
>>164064Dude, I sailed the Drake channel 10 years ago two times, I know the place and is hell when choppy, the strong currents are normal because the waters accelerate at that point. Frequently and unexpected weather conditions are the norm, they change without warning in a matter of a couple of hours.
>>164066have you circumnavigated at that latitude? All of these people mentioned (excepting Brouwer) did.
>>164067>circumnavigatedNot circumnavigation, but circurm-continent voyage.
>>164068so you went round Cape Horn. I'm... proud? of you? but by your reckoning you're missing about 50 thousand miles of journey.
>>164069>Cape HornIt is called Cabo the Hornos by the locals.
>>164070Sure. We're getting off track. I've provided plenty of sources for you to look into. Are you willing to do so, or are we discounting every circumpolar expedition to ever happen as wrong?
>>164071>I've provided plenty of sources for you to look intoThe only trusted source is your own eyes. Sailing there without interference.
>>164072Then why reference all these ancient and modern sources when you haven't seen these things with your own eyes? This isn't a disputed fact. Your sources confirm it, my sources confirm it, ball earth sources confirm it, there's a current that goes steadly east to west round the world at the latitudes south of the three southern capes and north of Antarctica. Nobody disputes this that's been round the world at that latitude, including sources you yourself have put forward. Its established fact.
>>164073my apologies, steadily west to east. map dyslexia getting the better of me once again
>>164071>or are we discounting every circumpolar expedition to ever happen as wrongEnough derailing, the chart is already established and clear faggot
>>149243By the way, that map is super accurate when using a sextant.
>>164075okay, I'm not disputing the map, the shape of the earth, or any other point you've brought up. I simply want to know what your explanation is for an established, fairly stable circumpolar current (and I suppose the winds that go with it, but that's very likely explainable in your model by the motion of the water)
>>164076Again, independent research is needed.
>>164077Independent research has been done and matches the facts I've presented. If its not independent enough for you, I'm terribly sorry, but if someone who is actively hiding from world governments (Vito Dumas) makes the claim, I'm going to call them independent
>>164079I accept your concession.
By the way, if you'd just said "it matches up when you view the whole oceanic current map in context of the flat earth" I would have probably taken you at face value, but you're so tied to the very few sources you have that you can't do independent research yourself.
I still don't know if your theory has any merit, but I'm 100% sure now that you, personally, do not.
>>164080In fact, I'm going to go absolutely top tier schizophrenic here and note a few things.
In this diagram, the redder a current, the warmer its water, and per established science, these are the surface currents, whilst cold blue currents are usually much deeper. IF your polar gyre exists, you could explain these currents as warm water being sucked into the pole from the surface, and cold water being pushed back down through the deep ocean. This removes the need for a "breathing" gyre and allows a much more plausible forceful, periodic underswell, possibly because this supposed northern polar whirlpool exists inland on the aforementioned 4 islands, and it "runs out" of water because its recycling effect exceeds the inflow of surface water. Since the land surface, per Dubay, rests ON the ocean, not on underlying crust, this allows for a massive inflow of water to the central reservoir, a relatively quick emptying of the reservoir _under_ the land surface, and a repeat.
There, I just answered your question for you, since you're completely incapable of independent thought.
>>164055>>164081Welcome to the flat earth thread
>>164083>Sci-Fi DanA prominent NASA paid shill.
>>164083C'mon, it is obvious that it is about to make fun of a dumbass that can barely articulate his thoughts.
The NASA ballers can rapidly extinguish the Flat Earth discoveries if debate is arranged, but, like the jews they won't do that and pick on low hanging fruits instead while claiming to be on the right.
Imagine if the negro tyson would debate Dubay, but... NASA knows that will be PR disaster.
>It hurts to Change your world view: The ThreadFlatters will cope forever.
>>164087>>164086>NASANasa has no power you retards.
>>164085Thanks. The problem here seems to be that Dubay has an extremely compelling and calming voice. I watched his history of flat earth and I was honesty a little hooked until he went on his autistic tard rage about the flat earth society
>>164089>Nasa has no power you retards.I disagree.
You believe all their lies, right?
>>164091Nigger what lies do they even tell?
>>164087>Tyson wont argue rhetoric with a virtual child cuz NASA is scared of the blowbackImagine unironically thinking this
>>164087yes, acknowledging Dubay as worth debating would be a PR disaster
>>164086>>164091NASA had to sell all its infrastructure to Elon Musk and outsource its rocks to Russia to stay afloat, and it still can't get congress to fund any of its projects (gotta send that tax money to Israel for their space program instead). Wtf do you think they have the funding to do that?
>>164072>this much goalpost movingSo, you'll only accept direct, personal empirical evidence for ideas that challege your worldview, but you're willing to cite sketchy youtube videos for ones that reinforce it?
Talk about hypocrisy.
>>164077>>164079Define "independent research".
>>164086>NASA paid shillCitation unironically needed. I wasted an hour looking for any real evidence of this.
>>164098welcome to the Flat Earth thread, where "paid shill" means "disagrees with my retarded ideology"
>>164117Well, in the last months the UFO psyop went into overdrive in the States, now the Russians join. Is any doubt left that they are together in the space deception?
>Van Halen - FLAT EARTH.
Good music.
>>148614rate of rotation is not measured in mph.
The earth rotates at 7.29x10^-5 rads/s. Of course you can't feel it spinning. If you were on a roundabout that was spinning at that rate, you would not even be able to see it moving let alone feel anything.
>>164125>rate of rotation is not measured in mphAnd yet on the surface and according to the freemasons we are moving at incredible speeds.
>>164125You tried, but OP feels the best defense is a solid ignorance
>>164127>You triedNope, that faggot is trying to obfuscate when bringing angular speeds which are supposedly constant.
>>163908Dark matter has exactly zero relavence to flat earth. Yes the models are incomplete this is known. But they are more than sufficient to describe our solar system. Even classic newtonian gravity is good enough for the most part.
>>164129Wait till he gets to the lack of comprehension that a sphereoid object has a dissimilar sloping curve depending on what longitude one observes the planet at, and that there is no 'single calculation' for the distance to the horizon