This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
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Its friday again! Today's FEF starts off with Bob proving the planet's rotation!
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>>148613
Maybe Flat Earth is a CIA PsyOp to make legitimate conspiracies look silly by comparison.
Radio towers are tall because short ones aren't as good. Shoet ones aren't as good because the earth is round.
Catapult and Trebuchet users centuries ago accounted for the curvature of the earth when calculating and aiming because the earth is round.
We have seen space.
We have landed shit on asteroids.
We have launched sattelites into space and used them, so we know they are there.
The planet is a round speck in a vast ocean of astral bullshit. Sorry, but we are not a flat plane rotating on the back of four elephants on the back of a turtle.
Maybe Flat Earth is a CIA PsyOp to make legitimate conspiracies look silly by comparison.
Radio towers are tall because short ones aren't as good. Shoet ones aren't as good because the earth is round.
Catapult and Trebuchet users centuries ago accounted for the curvature of the earth when calculating and aiming because the earth is round.
We have seen space.
We have landed shit on asteroids.
We have launched sattelites into space and used them, so we know they are there.
The planet is a round speck in a vast ocean of astral bullshit. Sorry, but we are not a flat plane rotating on the back of four elephants on the back of a turtle.
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>>159492
>If you believe Earth is round because a local optical effect on perspective, then you have a loooooooong way before to come to your senses.
Could you elaborate a little on this? I'm genuinely curious. I see that after your response to the photos in question nobody else bothered to reply to your reply instead opted to pretend as if you didn't answer. I'm neither pro nor against flat earth. The scientific community is indeed a bunch of liars and I gain nothing from being loyal to them, however, just believing in a flat earth to spite them isn't something I'm gonna do.
So, I'm genuinely curious here. When you talk about the optical effect on perspective I assume that you're talking about how things get smaller the further away they are from you. But some of these ships' hulls seem to be out of view. Either the ships are way too submerged or we don't see the hull because there's water in the way. This could be explained by the idea that there's curvature and that there becomes a hill of water that cut off the line of sight. At the same time, if this was true you'd expect the ships' poles and cargo to be slightly angled away from you.
All of this is taken by a camera. I have seen the video that's somewhere in this thread about a nikon camera that zoomed in so far that it got a view of the islands and cities despite the fact that the formula for the curvature so has obstructed them. Don't remember if those cities were submerged though.
What are your thoughts?
>>159492
>If you believe Earth is round because a local optical effect on perspective, then you have a loooooooong way before to come to your senses.
Could you elaborate a little on this? I'm genuinely curious. I see that after your response to the photos in question nobody else bothered to reply to your reply instead opted to pretend as if you didn't answer. I'm neither pro nor against flat earth. The scientific community is indeed a bunch of liars and I gain nothing from being loyal to them, however, just believing in a flat earth to spite them isn't something I'm gonna do.
So, I'm genuinely curious here. When you talk about the optical effect on perspective I assume that you're talking about how things get smaller the further away they are from you. But some of these ships' hulls seem to be out of view. Either the ships are way too submerged or we don't see the hull because there's water in the way. This could be explained by the idea that there's curvature and that there becomes a hill of water that cut off the line of sight. At the same time, if this was true you'd expect the ships' poles and cargo to be slightly angled away from you.
All of this is taken by a camera. I have seen the video that's somewhere in this thread about a nikon camera that zoomed in so far that it got a view of the islands and cities despite the fact that the formula for the curvature so has obstructed them. Don't remember if those cities were submerged though.
What are your thoughts?
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>>163795
>Planes are based on profit motive, of getting as many people from everywhere to everywhere else. Its not like when you buy a plane ticket they fly ONLY YOU nonstop to wherever, unless you charter a plane for ~1.5 million. The failure to grasp how profit motive affects air traffic and flight plans is one of your most laugable bits of incompetence.
Yeah, right.
>Planes are based on profit motive, of getting as many people from everywhere to everywhere else. Its not like when you buy a plane ticket they fly ONLY YOU nonstop to wherever, unless you charter a plane for ~1.5 million. The failure to grasp how profit motive affects air traffic and flight plans is one of your most laugable bits of incompetence.
Yeah, right.
>>163826
>my disbelief is an argument
Meanwhile, notice how the flat earth model involves exponentially more area between continents, the closer one gets to the perimeter. What this means is, flat earthers have to explain why the planet doesnt reflect this in geography.
>>163825
Or just answer this guy's question
>my disbelief is an argument
Meanwhile, notice how the flat earth model involves exponentially more area between continents, the closer one gets to the perimeter. What this means is, flat earthers have to explain why the planet doesnt reflect this in geography.
>>163825
Or just answer this guy's question
Ill reiterate, simplified.
If thr flat earth map has any legitimacy, you would be ablr to measure an increase in the amount of area between longitudinal degrees, the further one gets from the north pole.
If thr flat earth map has any legitimacy, you would be ablr to measure an increase in the amount of area between longitudinal degrees, the further one gets from the north pole.
Ill also point out how it makes MORE sense for a plane to fly halfway across the world when going to the next continent over, to a flat earther
>>163831
>they dont make sense
Only if you're a mong. It makes sense to anyone who has ever had to work out product sourcing and distribution
>they dont make sense
Only if you're a mong. It makes sense to anyone who has ever had to work out product sourcing and distribution
>>163835
>implying if you ask questions you're a shill
I didn't cite any "science", faggot. I just asked a basic question.
>implying if you ask questions you're a shill
I didn't cite any "science", faggot. I just asked a basic question.
>>163836
>I didn't cite any "science", faggot
All your premise is founded on the globe religion which is based on fake science. If you dispute the Plane, then your are talking about science, actually fake science.
>I didn't cite any "science", faggot
All your premise is founded on the globe religion which is based on fake science. If you dispute the Plane, then your are talking about science, actually fake science.
What dumb nigger decided that this thread didn't need IDs? It's the only thread on /vx/ that would actually benefit from IDs.
>>163839
>IDs
Actually it is useless, these kikes jump IP like rabbits and to pinpoint them would be an impossible task.
>IDs
Actually it is useless, these kikes jump IP like rabbits and to pinpoint them would be an impossible task.
>>163840
>implying IDs are useless because shitposter evade them
By that logic, we should remove IDs from the site entirely because the concept of them would be flawed.
IDs make it more difficult to change between contradictory points and sockpuppet mid-conversation, or at least add extra steps to do so.
We put IDs on /vx/ despite the fact that neither /v/, /x/, /tg/, /vg/, /mlp/, or even /int/ have them, perhaps even to the detriment of those elements, just to police /pol/-tier shitposting arguments. Threads with these kinds of arguments should always have IDs.
>implying IDs are useless because shitposter evade them
By that logic, we should remove IDs from the site entirely because the concept of them would be flawed.
IDs make it more difficult to change between contradictory points and sockpuppet mid-conversation, or at least add extra steps to do so.
We put IDs on /vx/ despite the fact that neither /v/, /x/, /tg/, /vg/, /mlp/, or even /int/ have them, perhaps even to the detriment of those elements, just to police /pol/-tier shitposting arguments. Threads with these kinds of arguments should always have IDs.
>>163842
There are shitposters on both sides, but it's impossible to have even a /pol/-tier conversation because there's no IDs.
There are shitposters on both sides, but it's impossible to have even a /pol/-tier conversation because there's no IDs.
>>163837
I only asked about the implication of navigators being bribed, because I thought it might be interesting. I didn't say anything for or against the flat earth in that question.
I only asked about the implication of navigators being bribed, because I thought it might be interesting. I didn't say anything for or against the flat earth in that question.
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>Leonardo DiCaprio, Pope Francis, and the Flat Earth picture
it tells you everything to need to know about the ball lie.
it tells you everything to need to know about the ball lie.
>>163848
I think it is the same case of doctors and nurses that recommended poisonous injections to the public because of the sweet money.
I think it is the same case of doctors and nurses that recommended poisonous injections to the public because of the sweet money.
>>163850
I sense the jew is back. Asking questions and shooting whataboutisms.
This is /vx/, back to /mlpol/ schlomo.
I sense the jew is back. Asking questions and shooting whataboutisms.
This is /vx/, back to /mlpol/ schlomo.
>>163851
>Asking questions
>implying asking questions somehow makes me a kike
If you don't know, just say you don't fucking know.
>whataboutisms
Where did "what about" appear in any of my posts? All I did was ask you to elaborate.
>Asking questions
>implying asking questions somehow makes me a kike
If you don't know, just say you don't fucking know.
>whataboutisms
Where did "what about" appear in any of my posts? All I did was ask you to elaborate.
>>163851
>This is /vx/, back to /mlpol/
You know, just because it's /vx/ doesn't mean people might not want actual arguments or want their questions answered seriously. That kind of stuff doesn't stand on /x/ either.
>This is /vx/, back to /mlpol/
You know, just because it's /vx/ doesn't mean people might not want actual arguments or want their questions answered seriously. That kind of stuff doesn't stand on /x/ either.
>>163853
>doesn't mean people might not want actual arguments or want their questions answered seriously.
There is not good faith in you.
>doesn't mean people might not want actual arguments or want their questions answered seriously.
There is not good faith in you.
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>>163854
You're accusing me of bad faith, when all you did was sling a series of ad homenim calling me a shill instead of answering my questions? What am I supposed to say to get my questions answered?
You're accusing me of bad faith, when all you did was sling a series of ad homenim calling me a shill instead of answering my questions? What am I supposed to say to get my questions answered?
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>>163856
You have plenty of evidence that the ball is a lie. Go on, tell me that you are not arguing in bad faith.
You have plenty of evidence that the ball is a lie. Go on, tell me that you are not arguing in bad faith.
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All this stuff just to make a strawman for being rebuked.
Thanks for being being the whole circus I suppose.
But if you are genuine about not curved Earth just stop being a cock sucking garggle blasting fag. Simple, but for you it may not be easy.
Thanks for being being the whole circus I suppose.
But if you are genuine about not curved Earth just stop being a cock sucking garggle blasting fag. Simple, but for you it may not be easy.
>Flat Earth, the sun, and mountains 175 miles away - case closed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqsT2dRCbTg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqsT2dRCbTg
>>163854
I asked you a question to give you the opportunity to explain your worldview. I didn't make any technical or fake "scientific" arguments, I just asked a question about a claim that seemed worthy of skepticism.
If skepticism isn't "good faith" to you, then I must be wasting my time here.
>>163857
I wasn't asking about the fucking ball, I was asking about navigators and pilots being systemically bribed to keep it a secret.
I asked you a question to give you the opportunity to explain your worldview. I didn't make any technical or fake "scientific" arguments, I just asked a question about a claim that seemed worthy of skepticism.
If skepticism isn't "good faith" to you, then I must be wasting my time here.
>>163857
I wasn't asking about the fucking ball, I was asking about navigators and pilots being systemically bribed to keep it a secret.
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>>163861
>missing the point
>still won't answer basic fucking questions
>no reading comprehension whatsoever
You know, I really was giving you the benefit of the doubt, because I really am open to the prospect that kikes and corporations really could be keeping big secrets about the geography of Antarctica and even the rest of the world, and I thought that was worth discussing, but I now see that I'm dealing with an asinine retard incapable of holding a conversation without resorting to reddit-tier shitflinging.
Sorry for wasting your time. I'll go back to ignoring this shitty thread.
>missing the point
>still won't answer basic fucking questions
>no reading comprehension whatsoever
You know, I really was giving you the benefit of the doubt, because I really am open to the prospect that kikes and corporations really could be keeping big secrets about the geography of Antarctica and even the rest of the world, and I thought that was worth discussing, but I now see that I'm dealing with an asinine retard incapable of holding a conversation without resorting to reddit-tier shitflinging.
Sorry for wasting your time. I'll go back to ignoring this shitty thread.
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>Gamer Asmongold does a real time Flat Earth poll, and guess what.
KEK
KEK
>>163866
Preposterous he says, carefully ignoring every argument that he can't refute, which are many and multi-genre.
Whether from actual incompetence or actual malice, it is clear that you are incapable of arguing in good faith. It seems a clear case of intellectual dishonesty, whatever the cause may be, but you'll continue to posture-post ponies because in your mind thaTs what making an argument is.
>B but, a bunch of WOW-streamer simps are retarded and think the earth is flat!
Yes, it takes a particular type of retardation to follow WoW streamers in current year. Small wonder that half his audience fits the bill. They could still be trolling though.
>>163863
But THIS one is my favorite. Here you have an unobstructed admission from the flatty.
He doesnt want discussion, he doesnt want to dissect the idea and discern truth from fiction, he wants an echo-chamber thread where he can post his tripe and rub circles in his own back about how right he is, nevermind the endless list of phenomena that very clearly illustrate that he's full of shit, has never known what he's talking about, and has the most pathetic grasp of physical dynamics while claiming an 'engineering background, lol, and anyone ELSE should kindly gtfo so he can get back to his FB-tier 'memes'
This has been a public service announcement
Preposterous he says, carefully ignoring every argument that he can't refute, which are many and multi-genre.
Whether from actual incompetence or actual malice, it is clear that you are incapable of arguing in good faith. It seems a clear case of intellectual dishonesty, whatever the cause may be, but you'll continue to posture-post ponies because in your mind thaTs what making an argument is.
>B but, a bunch of WOW-streamer simps are retarded and think the earth is flat!
Yes, it takes a particular type of retardation to follow WoW streamers in current year. Small wonder that half his audience fits the bill. They could still be trolling though.
>>163863
But THIS one is my favorite. Here you have an unobstructed admission from the flatty.
He doesnt want discussion, he doesnt want to dissect the idea and discern truth from fiction, he wants an echo-chamber thread where he can post his tripe and rub circles in his own back about how right he is, nevermind the endless list of phenomena that very clearly illustrate that he's full of shit, has never known what he's talking about, and has the most pathetic grasp of physical dynamics while claiming an 'engineering background, lol, and anyone ELSE should kindly gtfo so he can get back to his FB-tier 'memes'
This has been a public service announcement
>>163870
Theres that pone-posturing I mentioned. Cope and seethe faggot, you're wrong, ad the only reason you dont know it 8s b3cause you insulate yourself with incompet3nce.
Theres that pone-posturing I mentioned. Cope and seethe faggot, you're wrong, ad the only reason you dont know it 8s b3cause you insulate yourself with incompet3nce.
>>163870
While not intending to, the pone-posturing speaks to another phenomenon that is readily observed in the horsefucker community;
The 'I found a pony reaction image, your argument is therefore invalid' pretense. The idea being overtly, "I can present Twilight(example) in a meme that doubts your position, therefore it's invalid".
The problem is that, this 'argument' neglects the basic requirements of an argument; to indicate invalidity with position(s), and to present a counter-argument with facts.
One may note that this is why the flatty wont argue facts, excepting those 'observed' and recorded by dodgy individuals who have been laughed out of any critical assessment.
But the flatty isnt vying for anything authoritative, no, he is quite content simply to muddy the water; it is well enough for him to suggest that there is legitimate grounds to contest the uni ersal findings that uniformly depict a spherical earth, BECAUSE there are none again, I cant conclude what level of dishonesty that OP is operating from but hes "just so skeptical of nasa masons".
I literally cant ironically parody at that point,.
But to this post's point, its really just a reiteration of the rule about one's carefully worded arguments being sumarrily ignored.
Welcome to the flat earth thread, where feelings dont care about your facts.
While not intending to, the pone-posturing speaks to another phenomenon that is readily observed in the horsefucker community;
The 'I found a pony reaction image, your argument is therefore invalid' pretense. The idea being overtly, "I can present Twilight(example) in a meme that doubts your position, therefore it's invalid".
The problem is that, this 'argument' neglects the basic requirements of an argument; to indicate invalidity with position(s), and to present a counter-argument with facts.
One may note that this is why the flatty wont argue facts, excepting those 'observed' and recorded by dodgy individuals who have been laughed out of any critical assessment.
But the flatty isnt vying for anything authoritative, no, he is quite content simply to muddy the water; it is well enough for him to suggest that there is legitimate grounds to contest the uni ersal findings that uniformly depict a spherical earth, BECAUSE there are none again, I cant conclude what level of dishonesty that OP is operating from but hes "just so skeptical of nasa masons".
I literally cant ironically parody at that point,.
But to this post's point, its really just a reiteration of the rule about one's carefully worded arguments being sumarrily ignored.
Welcome to the flat earth thread, where feelings dont care about your facts.
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