This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
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>>163368>music and psychologYou don't qualify to evaluate even physics 101. That said, read a book nigger.
>>163369Oh, thays just college. That is what you said, college.
I got my engineering creds - which people actually pay me money for, enough to have employees, no less - from a trade school. But, accredation is an appeal to authority argument, and has no bearing on the discussion.
And speaking of no bearing on the discussion, in an ironic parallel to ITT, here's the latest Flat Earth Fridays!
Credit, I was oblivious to Sci Man Dan until this thread showed up https://youtu.be/2huZYKlAdVQ >>163370>Sci DanThat paid shill together with all NASA spoke persons won't debate Eric Dubay. There has to be a reason for them not to take that golden opportunity to shame and discredit the Flat Earth poster boy.
Interestingly, the same scenario applies to holohoax propagandists who always decline to debate holohoax debunkers.
>>163376>Flatty's cannot dispute this.Interesting details. And yet heliocentrism is not holding water, the announced curve cannot be found, then the globe is a fantasy.
>>163376As usual, surely Globebuster made an answer video to the glober. Videos of answer and counter-answers (polemic) populate jew-tube. By posting that Sci-fi Dan video, you are posting a partial view on the subject.
Take in count that OP refrains from posting this kind of crap and sticks to the facts.
>>163379>sci fi danNgl, thats hilarious, cuz its not wrong. Still, this is the flat earth thread so this is where such content applies, whether in support or in contest of flat earth
ahem theory. Gives an idea, actually; youll see.
>based nasaponr https://youtu.be/zixc8eojZdgHeres a 25 minute video showing the very slow process of a distant supertanker deacending over the horizon.
Pay specific attention to how OP reacts to yet more incontravertable visual evidence of curvature
Recommended at 2x speed
>>163017Because the sensors are square. But the lens does add barrel distortion, it's just slight enough in most cases that you don't notice it. In 3D renders people add in fake distortion to make it look more realistic
Actual photo of a straight building
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1SpyTP7rdwv6N-cA9VToYfBIS8yj6lg5Py2XfOeo488Q/edit#slide=id.g141444f9b3_1_251>>163365The reasoning for this could be as simple as the winds being strong or them not wanting to risk having a problem while being in the middle of nowhere to land. But I'm guessing there's also some economy to it, since flights aren't always simple A to B but can have people going to multiple different destinations and if you go a path that's close to many others you can make dropoffs for all of those places, and load on new passengers, places probably more worthwhile than Africa
How do you explain flight paths being curved most of the time? Including, yes, when they do actually go from Africa to South America or Australia
If you flattys get some flat earth bitch to suck my cock I might start shilling for it.
>>163507And yet, this realm is flat.
>>163508Rude
>>163509It could be for a price, until then it's round.
>>163511The Burden of Proof is on (you) by the way don't just say "Hurr Look at da thread"
People in the middle ages didn't even believe it's flat.
>>163512>People in the middle ages didn't even believe it's flat.Not true.
What you call "people" were a bunch of freemason satanists spouting kabbala teachings. Heliocentrism is opposed to the our natural senses and is debunked by experimentation.
Real "people" from before and after the middle ages knew Earth is flat.
>>163513Why would freemasons waste so many resources from the middle ages up until the present trying to convince everyone that the planet we are on is flat?
>>163515>meme arrow instead of just telling me>linking to a 30 minute video without timestampsC'mon you gotta do better than that if you want to convince me.
>>163516>B-but.. why?>linking to a 30 minute video without timestampsI knew it. You won't do any research whatsoever.
>>163517>More meme arrows instead of just telling me why the masons would waste their most precious recourses on perpetuating a scam on a global magnitudeYou know. if I asked some /pol/ack why jews do what they do he could give me a straight answer
>>163518>if I asked some /pol/ack why jews do what they do he could give me a straight answerSadly I can't give you a pol/ack answer, it is forbidden by rule #7.
>>163522Hardly when it is you who won't research and choose to parrot heliocentric falsehoods.
>>163513>mideval freemasonsPlease, PLEASE attempt to validate this point, I beg (you).
>>163520>I cant cuz da roolzUhm,... what?
>>163523No no, you opened this can of worms.
How do site rules prohibit you from simply answering the question?
>inb4 the site is staffed by masons I wish IDs were turned on so I could call out the faggot(s) that ignore my points whenever I post them in reply to some dumb meme they post.
>>163482 >>163311 >>162824 >>162790 still waiting
The threads all dumb memes and bickering about "AD HOMINIM" or "BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU" because the flat earth fags can't do anything else
Today's Flat Eart Friday was boring, just some loon reeeeing about how video of the International Space station can't be real cuz this one guy's collar moves at this point, and how its probably a green screen in spite of them passing a floating microphone around.
So instead, here's a vid where Sci Dan and Prof. Dave go over the main proofs from Dave's debate with "DITRH", for those who dont comprehend the citations.
https://youtu.be/26UkTow1RRoOriginal post
>>163010>>163538>>163685>Sci-Fi DanAnd yet, how come the curvature can't be found?
>33.63 miles No curvature..Againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6kOOvNLuGY >>163690I trust you're going to pretend all the proofs posted in your absence dont exist?
>>163697>all the proofs postedSeriously?
Any pseudo proof is rendered null if not a curve is found.
>>158063Try to comprehend it this time
>>163697Sorry fren but there is point where you have to face the Plane.
>>163701How come its only in obscure locations and by dodgy indivoduals that results like this manifest? How come when there are proper controls, equipment, and documentation, the results show curvature? Like the 15deg tilt gauge incident?
Ahem
>>163525 >>163704>How come when there are proper controls, equipment, and documentation, the results show curvature?Simple, if the faggots doing the measurements and equipment are paid by the occupiers in power, the results will always be the same lies.
Independent research discovers what the globe religion won't tell.
>>163781I get it now. Flat Earth is conceptually a hierarchy structured around scientific invompetence (umbrella term representing the various fields that unanimously, cohesively, and uniformly present an array of results among them a spherical earth), where the greater one's assertiveness and incompetence, the further 'up' the hierarchy.
>>163783>cohesively, and uniformly present an array of results among them a spherical earthMost of those results are not valid at all as the (((occupiers))) won't allow travel beyond the 60th Parallel and claim a monopoly on ship's traffic rights.
>>163785speaking of Antarctica and/or "the Antarctic Ice Wall"
lolIF the flat earth pizza were a thing
THEN the length of distance in the lower hemisphere to circumnavigate the planet would be vastly greater than the distance to circumnavigate the planet in the upper hemisphere, exponentially so.
In a globe, the upper hemisphere is equidistant to the lower hemisphere.
In a flat earth, the upper hemisphere is a fraction of the distance around the same latitudinal position
>flat earth
The circumference of the line closer to the north pole is much less than the like that goes near the ice wall, represented by the border. And yet, is this reflected in navigation?
>>163786>THEN the length of distance in the lower hemisphere to circumnavigate the planet would be vastly greater than the distance to circumnavigate the planet in the upper hemisphere, exponentially so.That's correct.
Search for captain Cook in this thread, he sailed like 70,000 miles trying to go around Antarctica, but he couldn't cos' Earth is a plane.
>>163788And yet, is this reflected in navigation?
Everyday.
Search for flying routes in this thread.
>>163790>NavigationPlanes are based on profit motive, of getting as many people from everywhere to everywhere else. Its not like when you buy a plane ticket they fly ONLY YOU nonstop to wherever, unless you charter a plane for ~1.5 million. The failure to grasp how profit motive affects air traffic and flight plans is one of your most laugable bits of incompetence.
>CookYes, your idiocy on that has already been addressed. Heres the reminder!
>>149629>Cook>149629 >>163795>how profit motive affects air traffic and flight plans Are you implying that all air traffic control and navigators have successfully been bribed into concealing the shape of the earth?
>>163796>denial plus sticking to the brainwashing programmingLet us check what some technical guy has to say out:
>US Navy Missile Instructor Proof of Service - Flat Earth - Mark Sargenthttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/Z5jWs-xZiaEMark Sargent is a Flat Earth researcher and cat is out of the bag.
Allow me to shill some Firmament models.
Not mine but they are cool nevertheless
https://flatearthmodels.com/According to flat earth, the distance between blue x and y, and red x and y is:
A. the same
B. blue is greater distance than red
C. red is greater than blue
D. omfg, masonic nasa shill
Its friday again! Today's FEF starts off with Bob proving the planet's rotation!
https://youtu.be/CXylB6HPHRk>>163816These are the worst and most retarded memes I have ever seen.
>>148613Maybe Flat Earth is a CIA PsyOp to make legitimate conspiracies look silly by comparison.
Radio towers are tall because short ones aren't as good. Shoet ones aren't as good because the earth is round.
Catapult and Trebuchet users centuries ago accounted for the curvature of the earth when calculating and aiming because the earth is round.
We have seen space.
We have landed shit on asteroids.
We have launched sattelites into space and used them, so we know they are there.
The planet is a round speck in a vast ocean of astral bullshit. Sorry, but we are not a flat plane rotating on the back of four elephants on the back of a turtle.
>>158065>>159492>If you believe Earth is round because a local optical effect on perspective, then you have a loooooooong way before to come to your senses.Could you elaborate a little on this? I'm genuinely curious. I see that after your response to the photos in question nobody else bothered to reply to your reply instead opted to pretend as if you didn't answer. I'm neither pro nor against flat earth. The scientific community is indeed a bunch of liars and I gain nothing from being loyal to them, however, just believing in a flat earth to spite them isn't something I'm gonna do.
So, I'm genuinely curious here. When you talk about the optical effect on perspective I assume that you're talking about how things get smaller the further away they are from you. But some of these ships' hulls seem to be out of view. Either the ships are way too submerged or we don't see the hull because there's water in the way. This could be explained by the idea that there's curvature and that there becomes a hill of water that cut off the line of sight. At the same time, if this was true you'd expect the ships' poles and cargo to be slightly angled away from you.
All of this is taken by a camera. I have seen the video that's somewhere in this thread about a nikon camera that zoomed in so far that it got a view of the islands and cities despite the fact that the formula for the curvature so has obstructed them. Don't remember if those cities were submerged though.
What are your thoughts?
>>163826>my disbelief is an argumentMeanwhile, notice how the flat earth model involves exponentially more area between continents, the closer one gets to the perimeter. What this means is, flat earthers have to explain why the planet doesnt reflect this in geography.
>>163825Or just answer this guy's question
Ill reiterate, simplified.
If thr flat earth map has any legitimacy, you would be ablr to measure an increase in the amount of area between longitudinal degrees, the further one gets from the north pole.
Ill also point out how it makes MORE sense for a plane to fly halfway across the world when going to the next continent over, to a flat earther
>>163828>If thr flat earth map has any legitimacyIt looks legit enough to me
>>149243 >>163795>Planes are based on profit motiveAbsolutely, and yet their fly paths across the oceans make not sense at all, at least... our realm is a plane.
>>163365 >>163831>they dont make senseOnly if you're a mong. It makes sense to anyone who has ever had to work out product sourcing and distribution
>>163811You didn't answer my question.
>>163833Dude, your "science" doesn't add up. There is not any curve and sticking to the lies makes you look a shill or the dumbest on this plane. See
>>149168 >>163835>implying if you ask questions you're a shillI didn't cite any "science", faggot. I just asked a basic question.
>>163836>I didn't cite any "science", faggotAll your premise is founded on the globe religion which is based on fake science. If you dispute the Plane, then your are talking about science, actually fake science.
>>163837Wtf does any of that have to do with what I asked?
What dumb nigger decided that this thread didn't need IDs? It's the only thread on /vx/ that would actually benefit from IDs.
>>163839>IDsActually it is useless, these kikes jump IP like rabbits and to pinpoint them would be an impossible task.
>>163840>implying IDs are useless because shitposter evade themBy that logic, we should remove IDs from the site entirely because the concept of them would be flawed.
IDs make it more difficult to change between contradictory points and sockpuppet mid-conversation, or at least add extra steps to do so.
We put IDs on /vx/ despite the fact that neither /v/, /x/, /tg/, /vg/, /mlp/, or even /int/ have them, perhaps even to the detriment of those elements, just to police /pol/-tier shitposting arguments. Threads with these kinds of arguments should always have IDs.
>>163842There are shitposters on both sides, but it's impossible to have even a /pol/-tier conversation because there's no IDs.
>>163837I only asked about the implication of navigators being bribed, because I thought it might be interesting. I didn't say anything for or against the flat earth in that question.
>Leonardo DiCaprio, Pope Francis, and the Flat Earth picture
it tells you everything to need to know about the ball lie.
>>163844>navigators being bribed,There are plenty of videos where pilots state that Earth is flat.
>>163847Okay, but what about the ones that don't, or the ones that say the contrary?
>>163848I think it is the same case of doctors and nurses that recommended poisonous injections to the public because of the sweet money.
>>163849In every country though? Who would be paying them?
>>163850I sense the jew is back. Asking questions and shooting whataboutisms.
This is /vx/, back to /mlpol/ schlomo.
>>163851>Asking questions>implying asking questions somehow makes me a kikeIf you don't know, just say you don't fucking know.
>whataboutismsWhere did "what about" appear in any of my posts? All I did was ask you to elaborate.
>>163851>This is /vx/, back to /mlpol/You know, just because it's /vx/ doesn't mean people might not want actual arguments or want their questions answered seriously. That kind of stuff doesn't stand on /x/ either.
>>163853>doesn't mean people might not want actual arguments or want their questions answered seriously.There is not good faith in you.
>>163854You're accusing
me of bad faith, when all you did was sling a series of ad homenim calling me a shill instead of answering my questions? What am I supposed to say to get my questions answered?
>>163856You have plenty of evidence that the ball is a lie. Go on, tell me that you are not arguing in bad faith.
All this stuff just to make a strawman for being rebuked.
Thanks for being being the whole circus I suppose.
But if you are genuine about not curved Earth just stop being a cock sucking garggle blasting fag. Simple, but for you it may not be easy.
>>163854I asked you a question to give you the opportunity to explain your worldview. I didn't make any technical or fake "scientific" arguments, I just asked a question about a claim that seemed worthy of skepticism.
If skepticism isn't "good faith" to you, then I must be wasting my time here.
>>163857I wasn't asking about the fucking ball, I was asking about navigators and pilots being systemically bribed to keep it a secret.
>>163860>copingSorry, recognize your loss, this realm is flat.
>>163861>missing the point>still won't answer basic fucking questions>no reading comprehension whatsoeverYou know, I really was giving you the benefit of the doubt, because I really am open to the prospect that kikes and corporations really could be keeping big secrets about the geography of Antarctica and even the rest of the world, and I thought that was worth discussing, but I now see that I'm dealing with an asinine retard incapable of holding a conversation without resorting to reddit-tier shitflinging.
Sorry for wasting your time. I'll go back to ignoring this shitty thread.
>Gamer Asmongold does a real time Flat Earth poll, and guess what.
KEK
>>163866Preposterous he says, carefully ignoring every argument that he can't refute, which are many and multi-genre.
Whether from actual incompetence or actual malice, it is clear that you are incapable of arguing in good faith. It seems a clear case of intellectual dishonesty, whatever the cause may be, but you'll continue to posture-post ponies because in your mind thaTs what making an argument is.
>B but, a bunch of WOW-streamer simps are retarded and think the earth is flat!Yes, it takes a particular type of retardation to follow WoW streamers in current year. Small wonder that half his audience fits the bill. They could still be trolling though.
>>163863But THIS one is my favorite. Here you have an unobstructed admission from the flatty.
He doesnt want discussion, he doesnt want to dissect the idea and discern truth from fiction, he wants an echo-chamber thread where he can post his tripe and rub circles in his own back about how right he is, nevermind the endless list of phenomena that very clearly illustrate that he's full of shit, has never known what he's talking about, and has the most pathetic grasp of physical dynamics while claiming an 'engineering background, lol, and anyone ELSE should kindly gtfo so he can get back to his FB-tier 'memes'This has been a public service announcement
>>163868Cope and seethe, the earth is spherical no matter the level of ignorance you adopt
>>163870Theres that pone-posturing I mentioned. Cope and seethe faggot, you're wrong, ad the only reason you dont know it 8s b3cause you insulate yourself with incompet3nce.
>>163870While not intending to, the pone-posturing speaks to another phenomenon that is readily observed in the horsefucker community;
The 'I found a pony reaction image, your argument is therefore invalid' pretense. The idea being overtly, "I can present Twilight(example) in a meme that doubts your position, therefore it's invalid".
The problem is that, this 'argument' neglects the basic requirements of an argument; to indicate invalidity with position(s), and to present a counter-argument with facts.
One may note that this is why the flatty wont argue facts, excepting those 'observed' and recorded by dodgy individuals who have been laughed out of any critical assessment.
But the flatty isnt vying for anything authoritative, no, he is quite content simply to muddy the water; it is well enough for him to suggest that there is legitimate grounds to contest the uni ersal findings that uniformly depict a spherical earth, BECAUSE there are none
again, I cant conclude what level of dishonesty that OP is operating from but hes "just so skeptical of nasa masons".
I literally cant ironically parody at that point,.
But to this post's point, its really just a reiteration of the rule about one's carefully worded arguments being sumarrily ignored.
Welcome to the flat earth thread, where feelings dont care about your facts.
>>163871>>163872>pone-posturingDo you know where you are?