This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
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>>149596It contracts at the pole to represent the roundness of the earth.
What are you sourcing to imply that this map is a flat-earth model used for WWII?
>>149597Let get some things straight, until WW2 schools were teaching the Earth was flat, then the concept of a "planet" and the theory of gravitation was introduced the the mass population as facts. The hoax of space and spacial travel also was deployed to solidify that false belief.
And going back to the map of
>>149243 you might consider it as a official Flat Earth map because it was used as such.
>>149598>until WW2 schools were teaching the Earth was flat, then the concept of a "planet" and the theory of gravitation was introduced the the mass population as facts.What are you sourcing this from? Where did you hear this?
>>149598>The hoax of space and spacial travel also was deployed to solidify that false belief.What about satellites? You can see them in the sky if you're in an area with no light pollution.
>>149599>Where did you hear this?A woman born in 1920 America. I'll post her testimony as soon as find the clip.
>>149601I had a grandparent who was in WWII. He never mentioned anything like this.
>>149602>He never mentioned anything like this.Very possible because the concept of planets and space travel were narrowed to academia and science fiction authors like Julius Verne.
>>149603You're saying he was brainwashed?
>>149603>concept of planetsMars and Venus are visible from the surface of the Earth. To what capacity are you saying planets don't exist?
>>149604Not at all, I'm saying that common people at that time hadn't TV to make them believe baloney.
>>149607References to a round earth in science and literature date back long before TVs were invented.
When did this supposed conspiracy start, and how did they get the entire world on board? Wouldn't other countries, especially those at odds with one another, just point it out to embarrass their foes?
>>149606When you use a telescope planets are not balls, but a luminescent objects roaming the sky. They were called errand stars for a reason.
>>149608>References to a round earth in science and literature date back long before TVs were invented.I agree. I mentioned it at
>>149603 >>149609If you use a much more powerful telescope, they look like rocky spheres.
>>149611I'll post the clips later.
Planets according NASA's CGI, versus reality.
>>149612Round Earth pre-dates NASA by quite a bit.
When is the conspiracy supposed to have started?
>>149613>When is the conspiracy supposed to have started?When the Freemasons re-introduced heliocentrism at the time of Illuminism and the Renaissance.
Italian Galileo Galilei ring a bell?
>>149601>A woman born in 1920 America. I'll post her testimony as soon as find the clip.I found the clip. Go to timestamp 2:22 for the lady's redpill; she was born in 1918.
>Ruth, 102 YEARS OLD. Pre interview clip>I was taught the earth is flat![YouTube] Ruth, 102 YEARS OLD. Pre interview clip
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[YouTube] I was taught the earth is flat!
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Question 01 - 00:15 - Where is the edge?
Question 02 - 04:02 - Where does the Sun go if the Earth is flat?
Question 03 - 05:30 - What's underneath the Flat Earth?
Question 04 - 07:06 - What about ships & boats disappearing over the horizon?
Question 05 - 08:19 - What about all the pictures of the Earth?
Question 06 - 11:01 - Why are all the other planets round?
Question 07 - 12:30 - What about satellites & GPS?
Question 08 - 14:00 - Is outer space even real?
Question 09 - 17:36 - How is circumnavigation possible on a Flat Earth?
Question 10 - 18:23 - How come the Moon is upside down in the southern hemisphere?
Question 11 - 19:14 - What about seasons?
Question 12 - 20:09 - What about gravity?
Question 13 - 22:02 - What about the Coriolis effect?
Question 14 - 23:17 - Why can't I see infinitely far?
Question 15 - 24:10 - Is the Flat Earth a religious thing?
Question 16 - 25:24 - Is The Flat Earth Society behind the resurgence of the Flat Earth?
Question 17 - 26:59 - Are all scientists, pilots & members of government in on it?
Question 18 - 28:21 - NASA isn't the only space program. Are all the others in on it too?
Question 19 - 32:29 - Who is responsible for this deception?
Question 20 - 34:27 - Why the lie?
Question 21 - 36:43 - What's it mean if the Earth is flat?
Bonus content - 39:17 - Dear NASA, why are you lying?
[Read more] >>149614>Italian Galileo Galilei ring a bell?The guy who was imprisoned because he refused to allow his work to be proof-read and declared that anyone who questioned his ideas was an idiot (Even to the point of mocking the then-current pope in his thesis)?
>>149243You do realize how ridiculous that map looks when you actually analyze the voyages people committed in the past, right? For example, Captain Cook. He explored much of the Southern Hemisphere. Logically speaking, if the earth was flat, as that pictures describes, then he would have had to travel an insane amount of distance, spending innumerable years of his life trying to navigate it all. However, when one actually looks at his voyages, all of them lasted for three years. For reference, Columbus' second through fourth voyages all lasted around the same amount of time.
<So yu can see, Cook's voyages are in red, Columbus' are in blueSo, unless he was using a speedboat, how is it possible to travel around the edges of the Earth, in such a short amount of time?
Also, explain the arctic poles.
>>149622>Question 02 - 04:02 - Where does the Sun go if the Earth is flat?<It's all "perspective"What about the month of complete night and sunlight that Northern and Southern regions experience every summer and winter?
>Question 14 - 23:17 - Why can't I see infinitely far?<It's because your eyesight is shit and there's too much dust in the wayOkay, why doesn't someone set up a laser system to prove their theory, then? A simple laser pointer is capable of still being visible for 12 miles away. Why setup a system to see if what you're seeing with the zoom shots shown in this video are legit or mirages:
>>148988>Question 21 - 36:43 - What's it mean if the Earth is flat?<[Starts going on a rant about fiat money, the NWO, and all the same bullshit that Neo-Libertarian conservatives have been repeating since Ron Paul made it cool]Have
ANY of you guys actually bothered to rewatch any of that shit from over a decade ago? Or, am I the only one who finds humor in how Alex Jones turned out to be the biggest source of controlled opposition?
[Read more] >>149630>Okay, why doesn't someone set up a laser system to prove their theory, then?There are plenty of videos with lasers debunking the curvature.
Do the research faggot.
According to the ball lie and as it is stated at
>>149168 , the Chicago skyline at a distance of 50 miles, should be hidden below 1,667 feet of curvature.
>>149633The jewtube algorithm scrubbed them all, now only (((authoritative))) opinions are shown. However I managed to find a couple.
>Flat Earth | Laser Test Proves The Flat Earth - Part 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhDFO4NMrw [Embed]>16.4-Mile Laser Test Confirms Earth is Flat[YouTube] 16.4-Mile Laser Test Confirms Earth is Flat
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https://www.brighteon.com/31db2f7b-135d-4a76-8e7e-451db974db45https://www.bitchute.com/video/h058DU2FSf7k/ [Embed] >>149614>Muh Freemasons/Illuminati>Galileo started itPeople have been speculating about the Earth being round since the 5th century BC, when Pythagoras was still figuring out new number tricks. From there, the information spread and people were able to both astronomically and mathematically prove it from the third century AD all the way up to 1522, when Ferdinand Magellan and Juan Sebastian Elcano circumnavigated the Earth FORTY YEARS before Galileo was born. If you're going to spout garbage, at least make it conform to actual history and not just fit whatever your single-digit IQ remembers from your elementary school knowledge of the sciences.
If the earth is flat why does the sun rise at one end of the horizion and set at the opposite end? shoudnt we see the sun and moon rotating in circles above us the entire time? Seems like a jewish trick to me
Tesla: "Earth is a Realm, it is not a planet".
LEVEL (2021) | First Flat Earth Documentary
>Are flat earthers insane? Are they delusional idiots, so convinced of the wrong belief that they all become very passionate truth seekers and activists that want nothing more than to spread their ideas for the benefit of all humanity? >No. Flat earthers are you. They are me. They are everyone and just because some people are indoctrinated into the heliocentric model of earth from a young age and still have a hard time letting go because of it, doesn't mean that those of us that know the truth about this world are going to give up on them. >They are family. Whether you know it or not, you and I are referred to as "useless eaters" in the eyes of the self proclaimed leaders of the world. >They wish to destroy us and the things we love in order to reduce the population to a more desirable number that's easier to steer and control. >We must unite before it's too late and stand our ground if we have any chance at a future without one world totalitarian rule. >We are taught that the earth is a cosmic accident and that life is meaningless because it's the only way to continually use us as batteries to power their economy, which is the real life matrix. >If we all knew the truth about where we are and where we come from, their would be a revolt overnight and the government that you know today would not exist in the morning. [YouTube] LEVEL 2021 - Flat Earth Documentary
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>>149243Wouldn't that result in the laser being to the right or left of the viewer? They cannot look at it straight on because, for example, if one were to look directly West along a latitudinal degree, everything would curve around to the right (With the reverse if you're facing East). Basically, imagine the Earth like a giant merry-go-round. The only exception to this would be if they were looking at it from a longitudinal angle, which would remain a straight line.
<But that doesn't explain how they can still see the laser.Because light bends:
https://archive.ph/zFuJYWith one of the reasons being gravity:
https://archive.ph/tfho5>>149648>>We are taught that the earth is a cosmic accident and that life is meaningless because it's the only way to continually use us as batteries to power their economy, which is the real life matrix.How is it possible for me to be a creationist, yet even acknowledge that sounds insane?
[Read more] >>149649>Because light bends: https://archive.ph/zFuJY>links to a diffraction articleDiffraction is diffusion, not bending.
It might be said that light bends when "refraction" is the phenomena, see
>>149110>With one of the reasons being gravity: https://archive.ph/tfho5>according to (((Einstein)))It is a "THEORY", aka speculation, aka a hypothesis.
>How is it possible for me to be a creationist, yet even acknowledge that sounds insane?It is an obvious analogy.
[Read more] >FLAT EARTH CULT MEMBERS COME DEBATE ME (IS THERE ANY AMONG YOU THAT IS NOT A COWARD)
Here it is shown the wrong approach to the subject. It is not about the biggest dick, but the soundest science.
>>149650>It might be said that light bends when "refraction" is the phenomenaActually it is not bending, but bouncing.
>American government TV
>Scientists are worried that Flat Earth may become a political issue
>>149775Shows like this should be illegal.
>>149870imagine a world where Standards And Practices has to erase all degeneracy from children's media
and govt funded art grants can only go to art that fits criteria intended to weed out degeneracy
>>149871Jews would abuse such legislation to stomp out opposition and "problematic" content.
You'd need to erase Jews before you did that. Jews are the reason why we can't have nice things.
>>149879>image 1it makes a claim and then doesn't even try to back it up. Discarded.
>image 2the solar system exists on a plane for the same reason that every planet except Uranus (long story) generally spins on the same axis, and that's because everything aside from the sun started off as a protoplanetary disk, something that has been observed elsewhere in the Milky Way galaxy and subsequently confirmed as of 2018, and thus seems the most likely origin of our solar system. If you want to know what a protoplanetary disk is, then look it up because there are many people who can explain them better than I can.
>image 3I looked this one up because I was legitimately interested. Anyway, Sir Ranulph Fiennes and his world record for doing so would like a word, alongside the others who undertook the same race back in the 1970s/80s.
>image 4Photoshop exists. Enough said.
>image 5Do you see that little thing down there in the bottom right in the map? It's to show you roughly how far it is from point A to point B on there by giving some rough distance estimates.
Do you see how it has sets of lines and numbers, all differing in respective meaning in relation to the map? That's because the map has inaccuracies just like any other projection that has ever been put into use. The projection most commonly used as the flat version of Earth by people in your sphere happens to have the inaccuracy or "warp" as it is more formally referred of splaying out as it goes further south in order to maintain the polar-centric circular projection. Thus, the corrections need to be made for proper calculations of distance. Now, if this was the real state of the Earth, then why would those corrections need to be made at all? Why wouldn't there just be one line with one set of numbers for the entire map?
>muh different units of measurement! No, that doesn't work. There are 14 separate lines, each with their own different meanings. There are only 2 units big enough and widely used enough to matter on a worldwide scale, the mile and the kilometer (imperial and metric.) Even assuming each of those lines is some different way of measuring distances within those two systems, that only adds up to 11 separate units (4 imperial, 7 metric,) requiring us to somehow pull 3 more units of length out of our asses to accommodate the other three lines shown. Anyone who knows these things better than me can feel free to correct any mistakes I've made, and anyone who thinks I'm wrong on any of these points is free to challenge me. I welcome the idea of learning new things, so I may be convinced if a more convincing argument than facebook-tier images are given.
[Read more] >>149879I really love how this thread is so full of completely un-cited claims that do nothing to help me consider the alternative point of view even after I give it the benefit of the doubt.
>>149963>un-cited claimsYou may begin with the lie that there is a curve behind the horizon. This thread shows plenty of empirical evidence debunking the curvature.
>>149964I'm saying that all these memes that make claims with no sources aren't helping.
Former Senior Officer in the CIA says NASA is Not a Space Agency.
Verbatim.
>>149963so many claims, so little sources, and so far out of the two- now three- posts I've made here nobody's been able (or at least willing) to prove me wrong. I'd love for that to happen, but something tells me that the guy's just not able to.
>>149969>nobody's been able (or at least willing) to prove me wrongAnd your sources are... NASA?
>>149969That's the simplicity of it. They want you to indoctrinate yourself to it to yourself.
They'll always maintain their aloofness from hard truth. That's why flat earth memes are rarely good of they are it's usually due to their failure.
The kinds of tactics are like a very familiar slime when squeezed. Not even a good kind that has a little bit of something. Because of the substanceless usually displayed corrodes anything of value. Which is why they pair it with many important topics with actual documented seriousness.
It can be explained with nuts.
Mine and others have the seed to germinate life extremely successfullyfilled with nutrition for the journey.
Theirs is completely dry to such a degree that they do it because of fear. Then they goad people into making a soggy waffle so they get to eat it. As they taste the life force as a whore supping on a fapichino they are watched because they have the same reactions every time, to determine the categorization of both the ideas and the effectiveness of which it can change a deadend husk.
That's the most scary part for these watchers.
This is their test bed to see if it is possible and how much it is. Along the way they drag immigrant issues through the mud by meer association, intentionally or not.
The best part of this is breaking the mental scaffold that replicates this is a testament to selfbrain washing. As such the solutions are viable.
It gets even better though because now a man can act on his own if he so dares to venture into his mind. A call to action made by himself to himself.

[Read more] Well, if some round earther may explain why the famous curvature fails to show up in every experiment done, then your credibility might increase.
>>149972Now that you mention it, I too notice a certain (((resemblance))) in the argument styles used by these types. They never even look at the ideas and points you make, content to continue arguing circles and making you look stupid by association while giving those of feeble mind the misplaced confidence to hold fast to their incorrect assumptions. Very familiar indeed.
>>149972>They want you to indoctrinate yourself to it to yourself.At least Jews put some effort into their propaganda.
This is like trying to get a commie to explain how communism works and they just shout "do your own research!".
Ffs, I try to keep an open mind, but it's really annoying when all I get in return for considering someone else's viewpoints is half-baked memes and unsourced claims.
>>149976>[Citation needed]Read the thread anon.
The citation you ask is in the physics books.
>>149978I have read this thread, and it's almost nothing but loose ends with no source.
>>150023Wtf the air cant be magnetic it's not metal like my fridge magnets
>>150022>implying the border between the atmosphere and space is a sheer borderThe air gets thinner with higher elevation. That's why high altitude locations have less oxygen. As you go higher, the air gets thinner and thinner until there is no air at all, which would be a vacuum.
>>150025Building on your point, space isn't a perfect vacuum either. Near to the sun as we are, there are actually a rather large number of particles flying around through our general vicinity due to factors like leftover particles from the birth of the solar system and even particles radiating off of the sun itself through solar wind and such. Space outside our solar system isn't a perfect vacuum either, but it's certainly more empty than space near the sun.
>>150026Yeah, space is not a perfect vacuum at all.
Vacuum is by definition relative.
>The nail in the coffin of the heliononsensical model. By: Owen Benjamin>Owen has completed his journey from not ever looking and just believing to having looked and now knowing that the heliononsensical model in impossiBALL.[YouTube] The nail in the coffin of the heliononsensical model. By: Owen Benjamin
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>>150031Owen Benjamin literally drinks turpentine to cure his gay thoughts. He’s a literal Retarded faggot. I wouldn’t want him parroting anything I believe
>>150031The earth doesn't rotate around the sun and the sun doesn't rotate around the earth.
Everything rotates around one unknown thing at the center of the universe.
My money's on a fucking big sun. The biggest one imaginable.
We're dust compared to our sun.
And our sun would be dust compared to that sun.
So when you think about it...
Thinking of earth as the center of the universe everything else rotates around is nicer than pretending our sun's more important than any other.
>>150042Who said anything about worship?
>>150054Don't you just love when a faggot personally attacks you for a bullshit reason while completely ignoring what you have to say?
It means you win.
I am right. To say the earth revolves around the sun is an oversimplification at best and entirely false in actuality.
It really is a matter of perspective.
Sunsimps only hate the "we earthlings are the center of the universe"chads for having self-esteem.
>>150037>Everything rotates around one unknown thing at the center of the universe.Galaxies are centered around black holes. Perhaps there really is a supermassive back hole at the center of our universe.
>>150062>Don't you just love when a faggot personally attacks you for a bullshit reason while completely ignoring what you have to say?That is exactly what happened with
>>150031Answers
>>150034 and
>>150037 evaded completely the physics facts. Science, specifically physics, it is what is being judged.
You cannot ask for to entertain your derailing answers.
>>150073>Science, specifically physics, it is what is being judged.Correction:
It is not science per se what is being judged, but its priests and their lies. Scientists were and are corrupting science to make it fit an agenda.
>>150037I mean, technically the Earth is the center of the observable universe, so everything that matters to our species is quite literally centered around this blue-green marble we call home.
>>150093Sunfags on susicide watch
they literally don't even earn the word suicide. They earn a stupid unfunny amogus reference.
>>150093>I mean, technically the Earth is the center of the observable universeI would like to mention that if there is not ball, then there is not space or universe. But a firmament and stars.
>>150073Cry all you want it’s not gonna stop your boy Owen from being a closeted homosexual who takes advantage of his fans.
>>150136The "universe" it totality. The metaphysics of it don't matter. Whether they're fixed stars or in space it's all part of the universe.
>>150149If motion requires something else to compare it to, is the universe technically moving?
>Obviously It's Fake - Podcast on Flat Earth (1:10:27 long)>Banned on Youtubehttps://www.bitchute.com/video/Zu3KrZ2y7r4v/ [Embed]There is an excerpt showing the normie reaction of the stream hostesses after the stream ended. It's priceless imho.
I attach it here. (4:58 long)
>Flat Earth - Obviously It's Fake excerpthttps://odysee.com/@DITRH:f/flat-earth-obviously-it's-fake-excerpt:9? >>150159That's the theory. The Earth turns on it's axis, the moon orbits the Earth, the Earth orbits the sun, the sun is one of millions of stars that is orbiting the black hole that creates the Milky Way, and everything is slowing moving itself apart from one another.
>>150294>Rocket Hits The DomeWouldn't that cause it to explode? Or immediately bounce back?
<Also, slow motion video is a thing. >>150317>Wouldn't that cause it to explode? Or immediately bounce back?It looks like the rocket got caught in some kind of force field. Even if somebody may claim that the rocket exhausted its propulsion and fell, that very fast spin was stopped on the spot.
I'm posting 2 screenshots showing that the rocket's camera is using an eye fish lens. That's the reason why the horizon switches between concave and convex.
Another video:
>Unedited Footage of 2014 Go Fast Rocket (full)[YouTube] Unedited Footage of 2014 Go Fast Rocket (full)
[Embed] >>150393Quick question, why are each of these videos two hours long in order to "dispute" a video that's 12 minutes long, with each video spending entire sections wasting people's time with useless information that doesn't answer the question being presented, doesn't link to the original videos being used, and some of the sourced channels in questioned being terminated by the author themselves?
In other words, why is there no actually answer to the question, and instead just some drawn out statements that fall into the same fallacies that were pointed out in the original challenge video? >>150408>In other words, why is there no actually answer to the questionI agree those videos are way too long and try to explain too much.
I believe the creator's intention is to educate the average person without a physics background.
The Flat Earth subject must dive in mathematics, physics and many other hard science branches in order to debunk lies and fake science. Obviously this is not the preferred flavor of most people because they lack the very foundations to grasp the concept, so an entertainment approach usually is chosen.