This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
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>>163873Do you? Do you think 'if I post a pony, theres legitimacy to my post'? Do you think 'if I post a pony, then my illegitimate post is somehow legitimate'?
Post all the ponies you want, you're STILL never gonna have a leg to stand on, intellectually.
you'd think someone would just fly over antarctica and shut down this whole conspiracy by now
>>163876>shut down this whole conspiracy by nowActually it will blow it out.
>>163876Your argument assumes that the flat earth hasnt been exhaustively debunked previously, except it has. All that remains are flat earthers who can't comprehend the evidence, which unsurprisingly is a gradually increasing number, as the standard of education likewise gradually decreases.
Show people a picture of Earth, its dismissed as CGI. Cite that the picture predates computer generated imagery, its dismissed as Nasa/masonic shilling.
The proof is already there. Its BEEN there since BEFORE any of us were even BORN. Theres more proof than there are technical analysts to explain its VALIDITY as proof.
Which leads one inexorably to the conclusion that Flat Earth has never been about truth. Hence why I say:
Flat Earth is an INcompetence hierarchy >>163876>>163877Apologies, I only touched on Antarctica. Funny you propose this, because there is an experienced pilot who is organizing just that.
The thing about a flight over the southern pole is, it takes a particular setup to accomplish. Being as though there arent commercial airstrips on Antarctica, not just ANY plane will do. It requires a plane with the logistical capacity to make the entire trip WITHOUT refueling. Remember when I said 1.5 million chartered? Thats because thats what it is going to cost to charter a provate plane capable of making the flight (and that is WITH the pilot doing the flying for no charge).
Now, flatties LOVE to point to Antarctica because of their certainty of an ice wall. At least, thats the NOT-disingenuous flatties.
Meanwhile, there are the flatty grifters who realize that its bullshit, but their name and livelihood is tied to the flat earth theory (DITRH, etc.) and so they are dug in at 'Antartica' because "no one could possibly expend that much time/resources/effort to fly over Antartica". Meaning, as long as no one DOES, they can continue to posture and act, regardless of the level of intellectual dishonesty they are operating from.
Recall, I already told you whats on Antarctica, and why the international treaty became a thing; its evidence of a megalithic human civilization/technology that defies the historical record to such a degree that the control systems would implode if readily known.
Spoiler alert, its not the masons nor NASA at the heart of it, its the CHURCH.
I wrote a long post but happened ot deleteed it. Oh, well. I might rewrite it but the gist of it is that I don't see why we should be fighting. Let us just discuss this impersonal and on topic that goes for both sides to different extents perhaps but still.
>>163881I'll come back and rewrite this. I have reasons for what I'm saying and I don't really know if this short post gives enough context.
>>163884Fake NASA shill, the sun doesnt go behind the earth, it rotates above it. This is clearly intended to undermine flat earth progress in the worldview.
Im false flagging as a/the flatty, if it doesnt come across >>163886>NASAWell, zog told everybody but normies can't help themselves.
>>163887Fake and shilling. Clearly, since the earth is flat, that any claims of curvature are false.
Cuz the earth is flat.
Checkmate globies.
The earth is FLAT
>>163887Zog convinced everyone that the flat earth is ROUND cuz they're Satanists, and who u gonna believe, satanists or ME who says what god says cuz I say that god says what I say = flat earth, checkmate atheists.
>>163888>>163889>>163886Wow, this is just what OP has said throughout this entire thread and not butchered at all. You guys are comedy geniuses.
>>163890>ShillsThey (or it?) are applying textbook masonic tactics for gaslighting.
They state exactly what the opposite side says with a tone of incredulity and sometimes mixed with sarcasm in an attempt to discredit and to diminish validity. That said, they will avoid to draw attention to the fact that utterly demolish the whole heliocentric model: the curve can't be found.
>>163890Experience
>>163891Except for the pics I posted months ago, which you wont touch,... cuz totaly not btfo, couldnt be that...
And my posts aside, you're about 24 citations behind, asfar
as 'refuting' a spherical earth or 'asserting' a flat one
>>163891>Shills>ImplyingYou sound like /ptg/ calling everyone a 'shill' for disagreeing with you in a flat earth thread on this tiny board.
>>163893Nobody calls flat earthers hateful. They just call them dumb.
>>163896I suppose so but people do call nazis dumb as well so I wouldn't put much stock in what people say.
>>163897Yeah, although I feel like it's a false equivalency. People call Nazis dumb sometimes, but I seldom hear anyone call flat earthers hateful, unless they want to associate them with another group.
>>163898Yeah, we agree on this. I never heard anyone call flat earthers hateful and I don't see how one would argue that they are.
>it's a false equivalencyI think you misunderstood. I meant that people say that everyone that disagrees with consensus is dumb so if you meant, which isn't clear from your post, to appeal to their authority then I disagree that they have one.
This post got a bit overwritten but you get me.
Was the post about catapults deleted?
>Coach Redpill>2022.06.06 Physics and Epistemic Viciousness>Dark Matterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHI_eSsgTF4This is a commentary on the science "experts" who make shit up and sustain lies in order to keep their jobs.
>>163903Dark matter is just a theory, a disputed theory.
>>163905Well, I guess you could say that.
In truth, a group of scientists came up with Dark Matter because they considered it to be the only explanation for why gravity seems to function differently at the far edges of the galaxy, as if some extra invisible mass were weighing things down and holding stars together. It's not a theory without merit, as there could be plenty of things beyond this world that we're not able to perceive, but an alternative mode of thought would be that perhaps the laws of physics simply aren't consistent throughout all of the vastness of space.
There are of course other theories to explain this. I think String Theory gives an alternative to it.
Imagine being ruled by shitty memes
Seriously, imagine you couldnt think for yourself and had to rely on Facebook to do your thinking for you.
Now i.agine your FB-tier wtfe got btfo and you LITERALLY had no lrg to stand on, but had to pretend cuz 'shame is bad'.
How's that whole 'being a nonce' thing working for you, OP? Learned to differentiate between,.. oh Im kidding. OP doesnt want to actually THINK, he just wants to pretend so that the audience THINKS he's thinking.
But yes I am bad/evil/wtfe ur scripture says is 'bad'.
Keep not doing what you're told is bad. Thats 'healthy', Im told.
>>164027Imagine failing to sage shitty threads.
>>164028Imagine thinking that a neglecting of sage was happenstance
>>164030Imagine bumping threads that shit up the board.
>>164031Imagine wanting the board clean for all the..............
............
nothing
If the earth isn't flat why do flights from USA to Japan take time?
>>164035Whoops, thats's embarrassing
>>164035Let me guess, you calculate Pi as 3.14, don't you?
Hey OP, I was just in another one of my random information on the internet comas and I have a genuine question:
What causes the circumpolar current around the latitude of Drake's Passage (pic related on ball Earth)
Since there's no rotation, nor is there gravity, what would push this much water around?
>>164056well, not quite. This explains the tides (kinda, I'm not entirely happy with "well, we don't know but its not the moon") but it doesn't explain the uniform west>east movement of the entire ocean at that latitude. If tides were caused by the bobbing of the earth's surface in the ocean, as explained by Mr. Dubay, there would be a uniform reaction towards the ice wall, not round it. Think ripples in a pond.
>>164057I suppose I spoke too soon because I didn't finish the video, but even the second explanation of the world mountain and the whirlpool doesn't explain uniform motion around the poles. If this were the case, you'd see almost no circumpolar current, or a circumpolar current that reverses with the tides.
>>164057>uniform west>east movement of the entire ocean at that latitudeI guess we have to wait for access for independent researchers.
The freemason's "just trust us" is not cutting it any longer.
>>164059Independent researchers are allowed to sail the Drake Passage and the circumpolar open ocean. In fact, Dubay references quite a few of them in his videos. Are you saying Dubay is referencing Masons?
>>164060Don't play dumb, you perfectly know that I'm referring to the area under the 60th parallel, specifically Antarctica.
>>164061I'm not. The circumpolar ocean current starts at the southern tip of South America.
>>164063Hendrik Brouwer (Dutch explorer who developed the route through the current in the early 1600s for spice trade with India)
James Cook (circumnavigated the polar region, iirc he's specifically mentioned by Dubay)
Vito Dumas did so single-handedly during WWII without any knowledge or assistance from world governments
I'll keep looking if you need more names
>>164064oh, and Jon Sanders of Australia has done it 11 times.
>>164064Dude, I sailed the Drake channel 10 years ago two times, I know the place and is hell when choppy, the strong currents are normal because the waters accelerate at that point. Frequently and unexpected weather conditions are the norm, they change without warning in a matter of a couple of hours.
>>164066have you circumnavigated at that latitude? All of these people mentioned (excepting Brouwer) did.
>>164067>circumnavigatedNot circumnavigation, but circurm-continent voyage.
>>164068so you went round Cape Horn. I'm... proud? of you? but by your reckoning you're missing about 50 thousand miles of journey.
>>164069>Cape HornIt is called Cabo the Hornos by the locals.
>>164070Sure. We're getting off track. I've provided plenty of sources for you to look into. Are you willing to do so, or are we discounting every circumpolar expedition to ever happen as wrong?
>>164071>I've provided plenty of sources for you to look intoThe only trusted source is your own eyes. Sailing there without interference.
>>164072Then why reference all these ancient and modern sources when you haven't seen these things with your own eyes? This isn't a disputed fact. Your sources confirm it, my sources confirm it, ball earth sources confirm it, there's a current that goes steadly east to west round the world at the latitudes south of the three southern capes and north of Antarctica. Nobody disputes this that's been round the world at that latitude, including sources you yourself have put forward. Its established fact.
>>164073my apologies, steadily west to east. map dyslexia getting the better of me once again
>>164071>or are we discounting every circumpolar expedition to ever happen as wrongEnough derailing, the chart is already established and clear faggot
>>149243By the way, that map is super accurate when using a sextant.
>>164075okay, I'm not disputing the map, the shape of the earth, or any other point you've brought up. I simply want to know what your explanation is for an established, fairly stable circumpolar current (and I suppose the winds that go with it, but that's very likely explainable in your model by the motion of the water)
>>164076Again, independent research is needed.
>>164077Independent research has been done and matches the facts I've presented. If its not independent enough for you, I'm terribly sorry, but if someone who is actively hiding from world governments (Vito Dumas) makes the claim, I'm going to call them independent
>>164079I accept your concession.
By the way, if you'd just said "it matches up when you view the whole oceanic current map in context of the flat earth" I would have probably taken you at face value, but you're so tied to the very few sources you have that you can't do independent research yourself.
I still don't know if your theory has any merit, but I'm 100% sure now that you, personally, do not.
>>164080In fact, I'm going to go absolutely top tier schizophrenic here and note a few things.
In this diagram, the redder a current, the warmer its water, and per established science, these are the surface currents, whilst cold blue currents are usually much deeper. IF your polar gyre exists, you could explain these currents as warm water being sucked into the pole from the surface, and cold water being pushed back down through the deep ocean. This removes the need for a "breathing" gyre and allows a much more plausible forceful, periodic underswell, possibly because this supposed northern polar whirlpool exists inland on the aforementioned 4 islands, and it "runs out" of water because its recycling effect exceeds the inflow of surface water. Since the land surface, per Dubay, rests ON the ocean, not on underlying crust, this allows for a massive inflow of water to the central reservoir, a relatively quick emptying of the reservoir _under_ the land surface, and a repeat.
There, I just answered your question for you, since you're completely incapable of independent thought.
>>164055>>164081Welcome to the flat earth thread
>>164083>Sci-Fi DanA prominent NASA paid shill.
>>164083C'mon, it is obvious that it is about to make fun of a dumbass that can barely articulate his thoughts.
The NASA ballers can rapidly extinguish the Flat Earth discoveries if debate is arranged, but, like the jews they won't do that and pick on low hanging fruits instead while claiming to be on the right.
Imagine if the negro tyson would debate Dubay, but... NASA knows that will be PR disaster.
>It hurts to Change your world view: The ThreadFlatters will cope forever.
>>164087>>164086>NASANasa has no power you retards.
>>164085Thanks. The problem here seems to be that Dubay has an extremely compelling and calming voice. I watched his history of flat earth and I was honesty a little hooked until he went on his autistic tard rage about the flat earth society
>>164089>Nasa has no power you retards.I disagree.
You believe all their lies, right?
>>164091Nigger what lies do they even tell?
>>164087>Tyson wont argue rhetoric with a virtual child cuz NASA is scared of the blowbackImagine unironically thinking this
>>164087yes, acknowledging Dubay as worth debating would be a PR disaster
>>164086>>164091NASA had to sell all its infrastructure to Elon Musk and outsource its rocks to Russia to stay afloat, and it still can't get congress to fund any of its projects (gotta send that tax money to Israel for their space program instead). Wtf do you think they have the funding to do that?
>>164072>this much goalpost movingSo, you'll only accept direct, personal empirical evidence for ideas that challege your worldview, but you're willing to cite sketchy youtube videos for ones that reinforce it?
Talk about hypocrisy.
>>164077>>164079Define "independent research".
>>164086>NASA paid shillCitation unironically needed. I wasted an hour looking for any real evidence of this.
>>164098welcome to the Flat Earth thread, where "paid shill" means "disagrees with my retarded ideology"
>>164117Well, in the last months the UFO psyop went into overdrive in the States, now the Russians join. Is any doubt left that they are together in the space deception?
>Van Halen - FLAT EARTH.
Good music.
>>148614rate of rotation is not measured in mph.
The earth rotates at 7.29x10^-5 rads/s. Of course you can't feel it spinning. If you were on a roundabout that was spinning at that rate, you would not even be able to see it moving let alone feel anything.
>>164125>rate of rotation is not measured in mphAnd yet on the surface and according to the freemasons we are moving at incredible speeds.
>>164125You tried, but OP feels the best defense is a solid ignorance
>>164127>You triedNope, that faggot is trying to obfuscate when bringing angular speeds which are supposedly constant.
>>163908Dark matter has exactly zero relavence to flat earth. Yes the models are incomplete this is known. But they are more than sufficient to describe our solar system. Even classic newtonian gravity is good enough for the most part.
>>164129Wait till he gets to the lack of comprehension that a sphereoid object has a dissimilar sloping curve depending on what longitude one observes the planet at, and that there is no 'single calculation' for the distance to the horizon