This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
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>Think the NASA moon hoax is bad? Check out the Russian moon hoax
>Actual broadcast footage of a Russian lander on the moon. Hey? Who paved the roads on the moon for your toy to move across?
And the normies still swallow this swill.
>>165426What are these videos from?
>>165427Russian space program, landing on the moon.
>How to Fake Space by Astronaut Karen Nyberg
>>165434You're right. The obvious children's show should have chartered a trip to space so that fan submissions can be authentically displayed in zero gravity. In the 70's, by the video quality.
Nothing ridiculous about that position.
>>165433I mean where can I find the video? What's this one called.
>>165437As I suspected: this was a promotional video, not actual footage.
>"The LK Russian: Lunniy Korabl (Лунный корабль—"lunar ship") was a Soviet lunar lander and counterpart of the American Lunar Module (LM). The LK was to have landed up to two cosmonauts on the Moon. It completed development and was test flown successfully in Earth orbit, but never reached the Moon because development of the N1 rocket, which was required to take the Lunar Lander to the Moon, was unsuccessful."This was never meant to be presented as real.
>>165438>>165426This isn't a hoax. It's a demo video to show how the fober was supposed to drive. It was released before the launch was scheduled. It wasn't meant to be passed off as real.
Ffs, this is why you have to read the descriptions of things before sharing them. What a waste of time.
>>165440>What a waste of time.It is not. Most people have no idea that the Russian and Chinese, not to mention Iran, North Korea and Japan, are also involved in the space hoax.
Hey guys did you know the earth is flat and space is a myth and stars aren't real? It's true, because a meme calls everyone who disagrees stupid. Just look at the sky outside and tell me if you see Venus or Keppler or Todano or Anur any other alien world. If there are no aliens why do no aliens want to have sex with me hmm? Clearly the crests are to blame. Get owned globetard. It is as the genius Kanye East said...
>AEIOU stars arent real
The Earth is round like a pregnant mare
>>165442>space is a myth and stars aren't real?Well, you can see by yourself.
>>155834 >>165450Says the fag posting facebook memes and shit
>>165445>Science says acturus is like, super far. But like, I can tots see it. Checkmate globeys >>165454Show me a pregnant mare that's flat
Go on, you took the bait. You 'fixed that for me', so pony up. Show me the flat pregnant mare that 'fixes' what I said.
>>165441That video literally wasn't a hoax, because it was publicly a promotional video.
The waste of time is that the poster presented it as if it had been passed-off as real footage, which it never was.
>>165454Since when are pregnant mares flat?
>>165465>The waste of time is that the poster presented it as if it had been passed-off as real footageIt is obvious that no cameraman would be already on the moon to film the landing.
>>165468Yeah, because it's not supposed to be real. It's literally just a promo video, like the ones you see in toy stores.
Hey OP, what's the speed of light?
If the earth is flat why are boobies round?
>165510
>objective, demonstrable, empirical proof
Gaslighting, again. Your lack of comprehension dpes not constitute evidence
>>165510since you missed it the first time:
>>165479 >>165510Eric Dubay is a glow-op plant from an actual Freemason family, who propagates strawman nonsense about Flat Earth to discredit the Flat Earth movement and quash free and open discourse on the subject so that his followers stay distracted from researching real inconsistencies.
>>165510I can't believe people still support this IFER shill. He talks past his audience and distracts them all the while discouraging actual independent flat earth research while sicking his Facebook trannies on independent researchers who dare to contradict him.
>>165513>>165514>shilling hardNot good enough. Try again.
By the way, if you can find the curve, please post it here.
>>165515>Criticize Eric (((Dubay)))'s monopolizing of Flat Earth discourse and censoring any criticism of Jesuits on his platform>Somehow this is shilling in behalf of... Someone?Nice try tranny. Go back to licking the boots of that lying Hofjuden. Surely there is no connection between the groups. They're totally uninvolved, because that "well-researched" said so. No further discussion is required.
>>165516Stay on topic. Proof of the curvature may help a lot.
>>165517Where did I say that there was a so-called curve? I'm saying that Eric and his trannies are full of shit and have been subverting the movement for years with his bullshit.
>Stay on topicSo long as Eric Dubay and his shills keep monopolizing flat earth research, he IS the topic. He's got more than half the movement wrapped around his finger, and he's using his """credibility""" to silence independent researchers.
>>165518>So long as Eric Dubay and his shills keep monopolizing flat earth research, he IS the topic.Absurd.
A man doesn't make the subject, but physical reality. Stop gaslighting with not related wild claims and stick to the topic.
>>165519He doesn't make the subject, he monopolizes it. That's why he torpedos opposing flat earthers all of the time and bans them from his platforms. He is a fucking plant and a profiteer manipulating people looking for truth.
>>165520>He doesn't make the subject, he monopolizes it.You are choosing to go personal, and again, it is off topic.
>>165519>not related wild claimsHow is blatant controlled opposition not related? This is the thread about the globers mythos, isn't it? Eric Dubay is a part of the whole NASA glow-op coverup. His job is to keep flat earth researchers eating sterilized breadcrumbs out of his palm to make them easier to control and prevent truthers from taking decisive action. I wouldn't be surprised if he reports directly to the 32nd Degree while laughing about how his fans uplift him as a "leader" in "opposition" to Judeao-freemasonry. That race-mixing turbonigger has been taking his own followers for fools, and his sockpuppet Thai tranny worshippers only reinforce his cult of personality.
>>165521>muh topicOh, what are you gonna do, tranny? Are you gonna ban me from the thread like your savior Eric does to all the other independent researchers on his forums? Are you gonna go cry to the mods? Can't handle criticism of an obvious 32nd Degree Jesuit plant? Give me a fucking break. Newsflash: just because someone tells bits and pieces of truth doesn't mean they're not USING YOU.
>>165522>Eric Dubay is a part of the whole NASA glow-op coverupSubstantiate the claim. Go on, I'm interested.
>>165523He is from a Freemason family. His own great uncle was a member of the 32'd Degree, and Eric himself has been seen wearing masonic pins before he got into this.
You don't think it's weird how so much of the flat earth truth movement revolves around one personality? How, despite uncontested control of the media by NASA, Dubay has never been substantially threatened? Why his videos alone are so easy to access on the internet, when even toothless clowns like Alex Jones need to keep jumping platforms? How he's able to post his videos with impunity while others are silenced or killed every day? Why he's able to have such a following despite whistleblowers being treated, killed and made examples of? There's an obvious reason why they won't get rid of him: he's no threat to them. His purpose is to control the narrative so that independent researchers can't make achievements, and so that his videos smother any groundbreaking discoveries and prevent action from being taken so that Flat Earth researcher can't make any gains.
And based on his behavior, he's done a good job of that. He's got an enormous following of Facebook normies who believe everything he tells them just because they include crumbs of truth that NASA doesn't consider to be threatening to the narrative, and more importantly he keeps them from looking into things that could actually harm them, like the Jesuit connection between the Freemasons and the globist hoax.
He talks about Jews the same way other controlled opposition clowns like Spencer do, while not saying anything that could actually cause them to face consequences. And despite "calling out" Jews on the globist narrative, he's painfully silent on the other more atrocious crimes of the Jews, like white replacement and genocide (which he willfully participates in by cohorting with Thai trannies).
He silences skeptics and voices that dare to try to turn the narrative away from himself so he can ensure that all flat earth discussions stay on topic related to whatever he just posted that month.
>>165524>His own great uncle was a member of the 32'd DegreeYup, and he publicly disavowed him and cut all ties.
>He silences skeptics and voices that dare to try to turn the narrative away from himselfIncorrect, he bans shills and any other trying to derail the subject, like (you).
>>165524>He talks about Jews the same way other controlled opposition clowns like Spencer do, while not saying anything that could actually cause them to face consequences.Not true. Dubay is known for praising NatSoc and avoiding any contact with jews promoting Flat Earth.
>>165525>he publicly disavowed himOnly after it was pointed out repeatedly and he could no longer cover it up.
>he bans shills and any other trying to derail the subject, like (you).Oh, so anyone who criticizes Dubay and his impotent vicegrip on the flat earth research community is a shill who needs to be silenced? Nobody can have that opinion genuinely? Anyone who opposes /ourguy/, not flat earth, is a shill? A heretic that must be purged by the Jesuit oath?
That really says a lot about what you think of him.
>>>r/The_DonaldMight be more your speed.
Don't let the door hit you in the maggot-ridden faux vagina on the way out.
>>165528Slander is all you got. Very jewy of (you).
>>165527>praising NatSocSo did Spencer. That doesn't make him legitimate, nor does it make him an actual threat to Jews.
It's not just what you say about Jews, but what you say should be done about them, and the results thereof.
At this stage, it doesn't actually bother Jews to be implicated in the glove conspiracy, because the average globist normie is so deep in the works that it doesn't effectively harm them; in fact, Jews have weaponized the words of impotent glow-ops like Eric Dubay to not only discredit Flat Earth researchers, but to discredit truthers about Judaism too.
If he actually cared about removing Jews, he'd list the names of more specific Jews who've directly leading the globist agenda, but he won't because that might put his continued Hofjuden shekels in jeopardy.
Stop acting like this faggot is your savior just because he's "brave" and keeps telling you what you want to hear. It's barely better that taking narratives directly from NASA.
>>165529Oh, pardon. Was I wrong about what I said? Are you willing to refute that, or are you too afraid that Eric "Trust The Plan" Dubay might not actually be on your side?
Open your fucking eyes.
>>165530>>165531>slanderous shillingWould you mind to return to the bread's topic.
>>165532>implying criticism of a major player in globist agenda isn't on topic>getting this buttmad about the reputation of a lying crypto-JesuitTopkek. Why are dubtroons so mad about the fact that they're being MKULTRA'd
>>165534>I'm not butthurt at all>D-don't mind that I replied to it 10 times!The absolute state of Dubay trannies.
I can see that you're stuck too far up his gaping AIDs-ridden asshole to be convinced, but next time you tune in to one one his videos, pay attention to what he DOESN'T say just as much as you consider what he does.
>>165535(((They))) aren't sending their best anymore.
Goodnight.
>>165536Of course they aren't. They're sending faggots like Eric and his orbiters.
Sweet dreams, tranny.
>>165537In case you missed, take a look to the book title, faggot.
>>165538>N-no you're the infiltrator! There's no way Eric could be!I see you haven't actually gone to bed. Typical Dubay simp, just has to put one more word in when his husbando is insulted.
Next you're probably going to go crying to the mods like you do on all his platforms.
>>165515>>165517You mean other than the pics and video that you keep choking except to claim 'debunked' without merit?
>>165524Ngl, that IS interesting
>>165539Thank you, that was hilarious. I hope you dont honestly think a flat earth is a credible position, but I appreciate you taking the time to indicate how unsupportable Dubay/OP is in their position.
>>165540Watch your fucking mouth, globist.
>>165540>>165541>copingSeriously, would you mind to bring hard scientific facts instead of character assassination and straw mans?
>>165542>the burden of proof is on YOU, goy!What do you want some bank receipt from his Jesuit overlords? You want me to get one from every other NASA shill in the world too? I guess I'll just call their accountant.
>His actions speak for themselves. Have you seen how hard he polices his chat forums? He's fine letting his troons regurgitate whatever he says, but when people try to actually take action he shuts down, silences and bans dissenters. If anyone ever dares to post the addresses of masonic lodges in his chats for the sake of organizing LEGAL protests/watches around them, he has us kicked immediately. He's the enemy of anyone who ever wants to take action to settle this movement nearly 70 years in the making, because he's made it about himself.But we'll totally just beat the globers by converting one Facebook boomer at a time, amirite? No reason to organize around lodges? No reason to demand open debates? No reason to have independent research in the flat earth community? Surely, the problems will just fix themselves, right?
You are an eceleb-worshipping simp. You take any criticism of that troon-enabling racemixer as an affront to the movement, not a critique on his bloated ego. Flat earth was doing fine before he came about. We'd all be better off without him.
But surely, I'm just a shill, right? Surely NASA pays me to shitpost about him on this board, when you and I both know they have the resources to kill him and make it look like a yoga accident, if they actually wanted to that is (they don't).
>>165541Theres that ignorant narcissism that flat earthers are known for. Post more ebin FB maymays yo!
>>165542So, NOT the video of a supertanker very clearly, slowly, and deliberately crossing over the horizon, as well as a multitude of other evidence that any rational thinking person would realize refutes the whole premise?
>>165544>perspective and refractionTry again against a hard laser shore to shore. You can't beat that baller.
>>165545>perspective and refraction explains why ships disappear over the horizonAs I said, ignorant narcissim
Speaking of lasers, I assume you have conducted the experiment?
Also speaking of lasers, thanks Bob
>>165547My latest post was about that ship thing. The counter arguement that I found in this thread, it's relatively early in the thread, to the idea that ships "sinks" at the horizon because of the curvature was a video were a guy zoomed out from having a perfectly in view and then it disappeared into the horizon. I think it "sunk" as he zoomed out but it went a bit fast, so it's a bit hard to tell.
The explanation was that the image of the ship converges with the horizon and the first part of it is the bottom part of it. Kinda like foreshortening in drawing, the building's wall that is closests to you is larger then the wall further away but in reality they are both the same size.
I have tested and the horizon does indeed follow eye-level, at least for the height of a human being. Meaning, if you lay down or stand up the horizon follows. This means you test if these visual phenomena exists. All you need is a relatively short distance of flat ground and something to place at the end. Then you can lay down at the other end and if you can't see the object on this parallel and flat distance because the horizon obscures the bottom this phenomena exists and therefore puts the proof of ships sinking at the horizon in question. I haven't found a flat enough surface yet, the pitch I found had a hill in the middle of it. But Neil Tyson made this arguement in one of these videos so if this is true it shows that, he, a professional astrophysist and Ph.D guy, uses faulty proofs.
Anyway, I'm gonna try to find some flat surfaces.
>>165548Yes, and thats a bullshit argument given that the zoom out occurs toward the end of the video, after the overwhelming majority of the ship has already slowly disappeared past the horizon.
And that says nothing of the dozens of pieces of evidence which OP has simply opted to ignore (read: ignorance) because he knows his only recourse is to either fuck off for a few days and come back with more FB memes, or to make non-arguments with le smug pony reaction.
Like thelaser gyroscope incident which IS LITERALLY NOT POSSIBLE on a flat earth.
For the record, Im NOT a globe advocate, Im actually a 'broken egg' advocate, which allows for BOTH the instances of curious findings/readings, WHILE acknowledging and allowing for OBVIOUS proof that the earth ISN'T flat, including and not limited to the laser gyroscope.
But OP isnt interested in coming to a consensus, he just wants to posture like him and Dubay are smarter than fucking EVERYONE, when their own 'evidence' doesnt pass muster.
>>165550And theres the narcissism
>>165549>DubayThe problem with Dubay isn't him being narcissistic, ignorant or wrong. It's that he's intentionally manipulating other flat-earthers into only discussing the sterile flavor of dialog that his Jesuit masters deem to be acceptable and banning them whenever they drop real truth bombs or organize action to expose the masons.
The globe hoax will continue so long as controlled opposition like Dubay leads flat earth research.
>>165550But of course his tranny orbiters will always spring to action to defend him. Dr. Rodchareon's sessions aren't cheap, right?
Keep up those yoga lessions. Try hard enough and a drunk might mistake you for FEMALE.
>>165552>jesuits and masonsOh, youre also intellectually lazy/dishonest. For sport, can you validate that position, or are you likewise "super duper sure"?
>globe hoaxOh ffs, theres more of them.
Lads, you know who you are, I warned you this would happen.
>>165554The Dubay clan are generational satanists with deep proven connections to the U.S. Army and CIA, and his disgusting Thai concubine is confirmed elite Thai Hofjuden of the Thai Royal Army (aka Masons). They troon-out their offspring from infancy in their perverse NWO Baphomet worship. Just look at his "father"'s feminine shoulder and hip proportions: evidentiary of being a FTM tranny. Eric himself was videotape crossdressing in 'his' youth.
He parades his orbiters with crumbs of truth while stopping them from looking at the big fish. That's IFERS was always so heavily moderated. That's why he keeps banning people for asking too many questions, making constructive criticisms: his JOB is to control the narrative to keep FE under NWO control, so that (((they))) get to decide what gets released and when through the mouth of their false-prophet glow-op whore.
>>165556>>165557That was excellent anon. 5/5 stars, your video confirmed a LOT of things I had intuited.
However, it neglects the point that the Earth is demonstrably not flat. Not saying it's 'round' like contemporary science suggests it is (which I refute btw) but it is conclusively not flat, and if you are wont to suggest it is,... well die in fire cuz you're lost the plot.
>>165560>it neglects the point that the Earth is demonstrably not flat.Of course not, the plane has some mountains in the middle.
>>165568My only hope for this thread is that you'll realize what an insipid fuckwit you are, and lament all the bullshit you have spewn from your fingertips.
Though, there's no doubt that you'll ever admit to it, such is the narcissism you have liberally displayed.
I don't contest that there are issues with the professed globe model, I've admitted it previously; having said, a rational person could use the multitude of evidence - yours included - to conclude that the earth is not flat. That you persist is on you, and I wish you well in that realization.
>>165569Don't forget about the firmament, and the gravity hoax.
>>165570Yes, the firmament and gravity hoax - as depicted by ignorant retards - is also completely false, baseless, and the sort of thing only a child who likewise believes in Santa Claus would deem credible, thanks for the reminder.
And yes, I did phrase that to allow you to posture more. Do be so kind
It doesn't look like the sun is millions of miles away at all.
Meanwhile
https://youtube.com/shorts/T0f6u39jlRA?feature=shareCarl Sagan explaining how ancient Greeks knew the Earth is round
Serious question for non-flatties:
Which of the following conspiracy theory groups is MORE plausible?
Flat Earth
-or-
Q anon
?
>>165723Q Anon is the belief that there are good Jews, which is bollocks. It's clearly a Psyop to convince the boomers to sit around and do nothing.
The world turning out to be flat all along is impossible, and more likely than the existence of a good Jew.
>>165724So, you acknowledge that they are comparably ridiculous, impossible, and lacking any evidence that can pass basoc standards?
>>165725>conflating the Q psyop with well documented and undeniable Flat EarthAhem. Have you even read this bread?
>>165723QAnon is just a bunch of other individual conspiracy theories lumped together by feds to discredit them. It included stuff like Epstein sex trafficking and other plausible scenarios.
>>165737How is this confusing?
When you're at the south pole, every direction is north.
If you were at some ice ring, any place on the ring would be facing north.
>>165771>the dome firmament is solid glassKeep grasping at straws, dumbass
>>165557Frenly reminder
>>165775No, those are definitely his words. So, how does air travel work if the dome is solid? Cuz a hemisphere prism doesnt leave room for,... mountains, for example.
>>1657752:52 - "If our Earth plane is covered by a crystalline translucent dome firmament"
>>165549>Yes, and thats a bullshit argument given that the zoom out occurs toward the end of the video, after the overwhelming majority of the ship has already slowly disappeared past the horizon.Sorry, I don't really follow, could you elaborate.