/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

>>150413
>I agree those videos are way too long and try to explain too much.
They don't explain shit. What does the length of the coastline have to do with traveling from New Zealand to Chile? Why do none of them attempt to disprove the curvature of the Earth buy doing their test from any of the plains like the Utah Salt Flats like the guy insisted? Why do none of the videos directly say, "This is the reason why, and now I will explain how that works"?

>>150414
>"This is the reason why, and now I will explain how that works"?
No problem.
If you are indeed hungry for knowledge and according to you, you despise to waste time, you should see >>148884
>>148885 and perhaps >>149622

>>150415
>If you are indeed hungry for knowledge
THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR.
What I asked for is for you to explain, in simple detail, why it is that the so-called challenges proposed in are "easily" disproven. Videos that are hours on end and documents that hundreds of pages log or make fallacies claims that do explain anything to do not make an argument nor are constituted as "knowledge".

Actually take the time to explain and refute shit. There's more than enough posts in this thread already asking questions that have been outright ignored.

>>150416
Oh, I see.
Basically you are demanding spoon feeding without any research whatsoever on your side.

>>150417
You're the ones making the claims that the Earth is flat. Therefore, it is YOUR responsibility to explain why those claims are false. That includes answering any question people have, despite how stupid they may be.

>>150418
>Therefore, it is YOUR responsibility to explain why those claims are false.
You mean that the claims are true, anon.
I'm posting the claims and I back them up with proof.
If (you) can't or don't want to understand the stream of devastating facts, then I suggest you read and watch them again.
I can't be responsible for your failure.

>>150419
>I refuse to explain jack
Then we have nothing left to discuss.

>>150420
You don't want to discuss, but to trap your opponent. In other words, you are not after the truth, but to prove I'm wrong to make you feel better.
What about if you make the research and demonstrate that Earth is a ball. By the way, the argument that because NASA says so doesn't count.
I would love you could back your religion up with facts.

>>148613
Earth is shaping like potato chip.

>>150422
Good job, be the establishment figureheads by imitating smug SJWs proud of their new gender theory.
Really excellent work.
Would you like a cookie too?
That people would spend the time of day doing time consuming experiments that require a precision, accuracy and dedication to actually get consistent data. And then analyze for the fun of looking at the numbers.
Or they just sort of shrug say who gives a fuck and move on?
Go ahead do what you're doing that's what some of your vocal video members do. They could be right, they could be wrong.
But that didn't matter because if you actually wanted to prove your point it's all a matter of propaganda and information delivery.
You are terrible there.
The very first thing people ask is why should I care.
>Cause governments are lying!
Okay, we know that what else.
>Earth is flat! Mean you been lied to!
Okay, lots of people already do that.
How is it important for me to know this?
>...
When I could use the really big lie, and get good enough. We do that anyway so what's the big deal?
>. . .
>Truth
But does it help me? Can I actually use it to my advantage and have something critical from it for later use?
>. . .
Okay, I'm not going to waste my precious time on this then, good bye.
>
>WHY IS NOBODY SEEKING OUT THE TRUTH!?
>AHHHHHHHHHH?!

>Flat-Earther Destroys Globe in Live Radio Interview
>Re-Mastered version of the ground-breaking interview where President of the International Flat Earth Research Society exposes and explains the globe hoax to Coast 2 Coast AM radio co-host
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Flat-Earther-Destroys-Globe-in-Live-Radio-Interview:d
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/4ruLflqsyK7Y/

>>150481
So that's all. No one knows why just believe us.
>If Globe spirituality is ded
>If Flat spiritually is not ded
<Black budget for something else
<Gravity their god
That's fucking retarded.
Because what do you do with that information afterwards.

Well you answered my question so here's a pony. Good job.

>>150482
>So that's all. No one knows why just believe us.
You are gaslighting.
Stick to the facts. There's not any demonstrable curve, therefore there is not ball. So simple, so straight forward.

>>150483
>No one knows why they go about spreading Global propaganda
>It's a fucking mystery
>If Globe spirituality is ded
>If Flat spiritually is not ded
<Black budget for something else
<Gravity their god

That's what your video claimed.

>>150483
Gaslighting does not exist

>The Incredible Sophistry of Albert Einstein! (3:12:35 long)
>Today we take a look at what all mainstream scientism is based on by looking at Albert Einstein's Theories of Relativity.
>His 'theories' are the very definition of sophistry and we are going to show you why.
>We will be joined by our special guest Karen B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vybj6E9WE4

Mirror with video divided in 2 parts:
>The Incredible Sophistry of Albert Einstein. P1 (1:32:00 long)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ng5BdyPdMug4/
>The Incredible Sophistry of Albert Einstein. P2 (1:39:53 long)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/QKAwet7lKzNK/

>>150601
Jump to around 1:18:10 for a funny moment.
You can't make this shit up.

Do any Flat Earthers have an explanation as to the following two questions:
>1. Why is it possible to see both the Sun and the Moon, in the same general direction, during the day?
>2. Why does the moon change colors and size?

>>150615
The moon doesn't change colours or size. It just appears to, because of moon clouds.
Sometimes clouds of space dust get in the way of our view of the moon.
Ever seen the moon blocked by a white cloud closer to us and our light source?
Ever seen the moon blocked by a black cloud far out of reach of our light source?

>>150616
>clouds of space dust
...WHAT? Has anyone considered the possibility that Flat Earthers are from the same brand of retards that brought us Otherkins: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lFRjrLmc_4c
And Breatharians: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WWRniMqhr00

>>150618
You heard me, faggot. Do you deny the existence of space clouds?

>>151503
>NASA PHOTOSHOPPED THIS IMAGE!
<Literally just searching the text in the image reveals it's from a video tutorial on using photoshop, and has no actual connection to NASA.
In this thread we see the mortal predilection for mimicking the actions of their superiors, without comprehending those actions, nor even attempting to comprehend them.
Mortals have seen people claim that the establishment sometimes lies, and have some vague inkling that the establishment cosmology has foreboding implications. Thus the earth is "obviously" flat (because coming up with their own individual view is harder than just copying someone else's view), and those unsettling possibilities are rendered harmlessly false.
Mortals have also seen people post examples of doctored images to support their claim that someone is lying, so hey, here's a doctored image, it must support my claim!
In addition to searching the text, if one reverse images searches the red version of the picture, the only place it shows up red is in places where they're claiming it's proof of the mars landings being fake, and never shows up anywhere being claimed as a real photo of mars.
Any anon who's worked at a grocery store (or similar) will be familiar with another form of this mimicking behavior, where "people" grab food that's behind the stuff in front without knowing why real people do it. As such, those "people" often get products with the same exact expiration date as the product in front (and waste both their time and the stocker's time), or sometimes even get a worse expiration date if things happen to have been stocked improperly.
This mimicking is also why it is impossible to have a real discussion with a mortal, because they do not comprehend how an exchange of ideas and a resolution of differing opinions works, nor can they comprehend the idea of multiple different views being reasonable interpretations of the limited information and experiences available to the participants. They've just seen the general flow of "debates", and mimic the behavior of the "winning" side.

Remember anons, while it is very tempting to try and dissuade these unfortunate "souls" from their errant path, it is often a waste of time. Many such circumstances are such that anyone who can comprehend why the position is wrong, already won't believe it, and those who do believe it can't comprehend the reasons it's wrong. It's an example of the typical human behavior of assuming that everyone is relatively similar to oneself, which makes anons believe that surely this "person" simply hasn't encountered the alternative viewpoint, and is completely capable of understanding it. This belief is, sadly, often incorrect.

>>151653
>Remember anons, while it is very tempting to try and dissuade these unfortunate "souls" from their errant path
So, may I know where is the curve?
Remember anon, if there is no curve, then there is no planet, then there is no space, then there is no universe.
Where is the curve? Huh?

Flat Earth; Antarctica - Dome Described in 1958 Encyclopedia and Prior Editions!

Nikon P1000 Debunks The Globe.

I stuck my head down the flat-earth rabbit-hole once. Just once. Now I can't unsee the fisheye lenses in space footage.

3/10 fun the first few times but now it's just depressing.

>>151663
Fish eye lenses are used to maximize field of vision rather than focus on one particular spot. They tend to be used in space applications because you want to see as much of your space station or craft as possible.

>>150294
The video is gone.
Well, that was expected.

>>149108
These memes reek of manipulation. Especially the last one. It should read “my face when”, not “your face when”. I don’t know if these are especially made by agencies paid to optimally stupidize the US population and accelerate their decline (to facilitate the Chinese taking over the Empire, for example), or whether it’s just how the egregore works, but this is suspicious.

>>149113
We do feel the centrifugal force of the Earth’s rotation. Its pull upwards is what makes your measured weight on the equator be about 300g less than your actual mass.

Eric Dubay: Daylight Debunks The Globe.
https://t.me/FE_Nederland/550

>>151811
Do a Ctrl+F and search this thread for Nikon P900 and P1000, then THOSE ARE what round earthers really fear.

>>151810
I found mirrors and transcript.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlNhPXCH5cA
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Daylight-Debunks-the-Globe:0
https://www.bitchute.com/video/cAXhB26Bx1ls/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mkrgeqFDQVpq/

>>151703
>Earth’s rotation
I would love to hear from where you are taking your info.

Flat Earth in 60 Seconds!

>Outer Space isn't a Place - It's a Lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqzlQPlCv44
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lVWexiQzU43l/

>Flat Earth: Spacex credibility disappears lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvRMQx6GQ_0
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/H931aEbu1Cq8/
CGI fails.

The Earth can't possibly be flat because if it were all the cats in the world would have pushed everything and everyone over the edge by now!

>>152451
Cats can't, the edge is 150 feet high.

>Is Theoretical Physics Actually Pseudo-Science? - (9:01 long)
>Michio Kaku and the pseudo-science that is modern-day 'theoretical physics.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhaegEh6Cg8
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BoIhdNLpzFMN/
Spoiler: It's a pile of crap that can't pass the scientific method test.

NASA lies.

>Is Antarctica The Key To Flat Earth?
https://www.banned.video/watch?id=5db8b0422616150016b26a2d
Mirrors:
https://odysee.com/@True_World:f/Flat-Earth-NASA-Op-Fish-Bowl-Perfectly-by-Greg-Reese-Plocha-Zeme-NASA-Op-Fish-Bowl-opet-Perfektne-od-Grega-Reese:b
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PhsioRlRJrQE/
Short, straight to the point, and well done.

Stanley Kubrick's Deathbed Confession.
Moon landings are a fraud.

Cartoon Truth about the fake moon landing.

>>153839
Already posted. See >>150392

>>153847
>CIA & international spying gossip
This has nothing to do with Flat Earth.

>>153844
My apologies. Pleade allow timr for me to review the 'completion' vids.
While Im doing that, since youre familiar with the youtube channel, would you care to address the numerous additional videos that refute flat earth theory?
For clarification, the challenge is NOT to 'watch this guys whole videos and respond to everything', the challenge is to address the additional concerns, starting here:
https://youtu.be/KyD8VIK032o
And yes, this will be a sequence of inquiries. Im trying to skeptically weigh arguments from both sides. (You) are welcome to decline.

>>153850
If you can proof you live on a ball I will be satisfied.

>>153851
You've rejected all of the proof given.
What would it actually take to prove it to you? What's your standard of evidence?

>>153851
Well, lets be specific about what you feel constitutes proof.
Lets start with the moon.
Please explain the moon.

>>153853
The parameters are set, according to Freemasons our realm is round, however real experiments (not CGI, photoshop and tall tales) debunk that.
So, applying real science, (((governments))) and their bought scientists' accounts don't hold water.
Interesting, isn't it?

>>153854
Okay, then what would hold water to you? What would it take?

>>153855
>what would hold water to you?
To pass the Scientific Method.
Please, research moar fren; your question denotes that you are ill prepared to understand how science works.

>>153856
What sort of research are you looking for?

>>153858
Not me, but you.
It is (you) who doesn't see the BS before your eyes because you are relying on faith in perceived "scientist priests" and government propaganda instead scientific analytical thinking.

>>153862
>>153854
Very Arrogant, Very Cringe

>>153854
I saaaaaaaid, explain the Moon

>>153853
This is getting tiresome. The whole thread is filled with proof.

>>153903
Youve got two statements about the moon landing, and what? Idgaf about the landings, I want you to explain what the fuck the moon is using flat earth and or dome theory.
Heres the rub. Your cutesy rhetorical 'proofs' dont measure up to a flat earth. I could conceive of the 'shard of a larger planet' theory, but the curvature of the planet is so easily proven through a variety of basic and complicated tests (and the results are repeatable and correspond to one another while operating individually), that to claim it is flat you would have to be quite ignorant, taking the piss, or you cant think rationally.
Since (you) are seemingly the only anon who gives this theory any weight Im addressing you.
Now then. You are aware that constellations are a thing, yes? Do you honestly think its some kind of projected or artifical aspect of a dome? If so, show me a astronomic chart by which you can track the movement of the constellations. If the flat earth were true, the constellations would be visible going NOT in a straight line, but would meander in order to be visible over the various areas it is claimed based on the flat earth map, and would diverge from the directional positions they are observed from.
Or, for simplicity's sake, explain the moon.
For extra credit, please use these charts to indicate when the next lunar eclipse is going to happen.
Because the funny thing about astronomical charts is you CAN accuratrly predict down to the minute (Im sure more sophisticated anons can be even more precise) when historical and future eclipses (not exclusively) will occurr.
Additionally theres this thing called tides, magnetic fields, as well as seasons, and all the rest. The thing about science is its based on findings rather than an individual's agreement with the theory for whatever reason. A scientist is tasked with trying to DISPROVE their pet theory and only after they exhaustively fail to do so do they present their findings to the critical analysis of other scientists, who then take it upon themselves to rigorously vet the experiments, the findings, and the validity of the theory.
The few videos of what has been posted that I HAVE watched are easily refuted and debunked (like the horizon laser experiment), so no Im not going to bother reading/watching everything. Back to the challenge:
Tl;dr Explain anything about the moon using flat earth models, and Ill be happy to show you how absurd those explanations are

>>153903
>"Proofs"
Sure Buddy, BTW whats your IQ? Asking for a Friend.

Heliocentrism Modern Day Sun Worship Masquerading as a Science.

>>153856
>>153904
I don't really know if the earth is flat or not (as in I cannot prove either way), but I have to say that I don't really like your science, well maybe not woreship, but naive and idealistic view of the scientific world.

The reality is that we live in a world were egalitarinism is preached, which includes scientists that improve their careers to find "poofs" of this. Of course, there are those scientist that speak out about this but they are either shunned by the rest of the "scientific community" I'm sorry but I can't help but to think how community and objectivity seems, to me, naturally at odds with each other. Woman are liars and they are that way to fit in into communities. It seems clear that a society based around objectivity and truth would suffer from being mesh into one. or, it it's possible, removed from their former post.

Point is that I would put no faith in their integrity at all. They have lied before, so I shouldn't be suprized if they do so again.

This also doubles down in the favour of the flat earthers' camp. I haven't picked a side yet since it would only be for show anyway since I don't feel confident that I know enough about the issue to prove whatever conclusion I might reach but my point is that just like how flat earthers point to the idea that the earth is round; which, when you look at the horizon, is the most intuitive thought, the same can be said about bio essentialism. When we look at a nigger and compare him to a white man, the unbiased mind automatically assumes that just how their outside appearence is different so must their insides be. Obviously, ranging in degrees but that's the intuitive thought. But people have been made into liars because of the fear of being called racist. This forces them to claim that the emperor is nude.

I'm not saying that they are obviously the same but I'd liked to point out the similarity.

>>154391
Just because the earth revolves around the sun doesn't mean that you have to worship the sun. That's nonsense.

After looking into OP claim the world is flat, I now believe the earth is definitely flat

>>155626
Welcome.

How far is Arcturus?

>>149600
>What about satellites?
Satellites are actually balloons.

>>156620
Be a good lad and calculate when the next solar or lunar eclipse will be, using a flat earth model

>>156622
No idea, but it is sufficient to know that there is no curve, then there is no planet, then there is no space, then... the whole astronomy building falls catastrophically. It is all a big hoax.

>>156624
And how do (you) know there is no curve? Are you any pf thes3 vodeographers who have condicted an experiment and can reproduce the results such that a knowledgeable person could observe the experiment without finding fault in it?

>>156625
>And how do (you) know there is no curve?
I definitely can ask exactly the same question and with the same argument about "authority".
And how do (you) know there is a curve?

Im throwing you a bone here.
Flat earth proponents LOVE to push the 'conduct your own experiments' meme, and when (you) are ready to present your own findings, Ill be happy to give them the consoderation they deserve.
Bit you're not, you're presenting (very flawed) videos and articles from other people, and effectivrly acknowledging 'well, none of the flat earth models actually WORK with the solar system, but its enough to 'know' the earth is flat.
I mean, look at this guy here.
https://youtu.be/YaPa4esJJx4
I wont say his experiment is flawless, and I acknowledge that allows for the shard-earth theory which I further acknowledge the possibikity of given certain pieces of information that I have recently come into possession of.
But, while I acknowledge that the shard theory is not impossible, Im not promoting it.
(You) however are promoting Flat Earth, which from the rhetorical and problematic (from a logical standpoint) 'sources' doesnt have any legs to stand on.
Oh, speaking of standing, apparently gravity isnt a thing to flat earthers? Apparently we're being held against the earth by inertia of effectively a giant elevator?
>How is this possible
<Idk but that doesnt mean its wrong
Thats 'God of the Gaps'tier
>inb4 gaytheist talking points
Not an Atheist, bit there is an easy correlation to be drawn between the inability to rationally conceptualize an alternative that fits somehow excuses an otherwise laughable stance on the subject.
If any of the flat earth material were viable, you would be able to take that 3vidence and then apply it to another observable phenomenon, and tbey would be interconnected and play off each other; there isnt one set of observable physical phenomena one minute and a totally other set a few miles away. You should be able to say 'if this part of flat earth is true, then that would translate to this area, where we can see if the same observable phenomena occurs in a different context.'
Lather, rinse, repeat.

>>156628
>I mean, look at this guy here.
>misdirection
In this bread there is plenty of information and proof to put the heliocentrism cult to rest for eternity.

>>156620
>First off, (you)'re the one promoting the theory, the burden of proof is on you. But since I have a handle on things and can argue a point without logical fallacies and defensive deflection,....
Because sundials are a thing, amd they produce the same results no matter where on the planet you are. Additionally, round is a fundamental property of matter, as it is at a point of equilibrium when operating in a pressurized system. This is why tiny droplets of water bead, among many other observable phenomenon.
>but water gets flat on a plate
Yes, because it has reached a resting state, being acted on only by gravity and minimal air pressure.
The sphere is observable in all structures beginning with cells and microbes (Id suggest atoms too, but I havent seen it with my own eyes) and is a fundamental form of matter, plasma, and electromagnetism. Ever studied a magnetic field? They're easily observable with metal filings (unless,... the metal filings are in on the deception)

>>156628
>You) however are promoting Flat Earth, which from the rhetorical and problematic (from a logical standpoint) 'sources' doesnt have any legs to stand on.
You lie like a kike.
The breads speaks for itself. Laser experiments on water demonstrate without any doubts that there's no curve.
Read the whole bread of GTFO.

>>156632
Those laser experiments are flawed AND not reproduced. Try again.

>>156632
Wait a second

>>156632
>You lie like a kike.

I REALLY hope you have some evid3nce for that claim. Please put it forward. Where and how have I lied.

>>156633
>Those laser experiments are flawed AND not reproduced.
How so? I'm interested, HOW they are flawed.

>>156635
>Where and how have I lied.
You said, quote:
>You) however are promoting Flat Earth, which from the rhetorical and problematic (from a logical standpoint) 'sources' doesnt have any legs to stand on.
From a logical standpoint no source need any approval from the heliocentric "priest" funded by (((governments))). You call "problematic sources" to anyone not licensed by the priests to investigate on the established pseudo science. Therefore it is (you) who resort to fallacies to support the round earth.

>>156636
>flaws
Fo one, theyre being conducted on a boat, on the water.
Now I dont know if you know about natural bodies of water, but Ill clue you in.
There is no such thing as a resting state. Ergo, you will never be operating from a level and stable platform. With the distances involved the most miniscule change in angle will produce results where the error threshold renders the results inconclusive AT BEST.
>priests
>licenses
So not what I said, thanks for proving who the liar.
When I say authority, I dont mean (((authority))) I mean a person who has an experiential wealth of knowledge about the subject and its experiments, who is credible in determining errors. I am not an authority, and yet I can already refute most of the assertions presented.
If a layman can do that to most of the evidence, how can you claim to have a leg to stand on?
Pick a video or article, and I will walk you through it and point out the errors. When I cant, Ill admit it. Deal? Pick your favorite.

>>156637
>I dont mean (((authority))) I mean a person who has an experiential wealth of knowledge about the subject and its experiments, who is credible in determining errors.
I qualify to determine that.
I have a background in mechanical engineering.

>>156638
So do I

>>156639
Great. Would you like to demolish the trigonometry associated with a boat balancing on a lake while projecting a laser beam over the horizon? Huh?

>>156638
Also, you dont strike me as credible; your bias is toward conviction, whereas my bias is toward skeptical analysis. Again, I point to the planetary shard theory (which still has flaws, but one mustnt throw the baby out with the bath water,... you know, like you lot do).
And even if you didnt have such a boas, you would need to be present at the experiment in order to effectively error-correct.
The best a person with any understanding could conclude from the laser experiment is that it is inconclusive and needing further experimentation.
Its not a one and done anon. Youre not pushing a theory, because you dont have the evidence to justify the theory. You're pushing an ideology
>but, so are you!
Yes. I promotr by my skepticism the idea that if tjis were true, it would be overwhelmingly apparent by way of simple experiments; the inverse is true.

>>156640
Knock yourself out, Ill get my popcorn