This thread is meant to debunk the deranged idea that our realm is a planet floating in space.
If the so called established science can't be challenged, then it's not science, but religion.
/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal
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>>157933
It's expensive as fuck, but I hope to one day do it.
https://www.adventure-life.com/antarctica
I'm going to stop posting on this thread now.
It's expensive as fuck, but I hope to one day do it.
https://www.adventure-life.com/antarctica
I'm going to stop posting on this thread now.
Anonymous
No.157936
>>157935
I know that grift and read the contract the passengers have to sign before jump on board. Spoiler, those small ships only visit pre-determined outer islands and never reach the antarctic wall. Also the voyages leaving Usuhaia (Argentina) are in peak summer, or January in the South.
I know that grift and read the contract the passengers have to sign before jump on board. Spoiler, those small ships only visit pre-determined outer islands and never reach the antarctic wall. Also the voyages leaving Usuhaia (Argentina) are in peak summer, or January in the South.
>>157924
>Flat earth is not peer reviewed. There's a reason to it.
A reason, yes. Reason, no. This is why the flat earth is utterly incredible. Peer review is where other scientists and practitioners get to recreate the experiment to attempt to find flaw in it, to exhaust whether there is any refutation. Flat earthers dont know the first thing about controls in experimentation, which is why they cant (and have stopped trying 'for a reason') submitting for peer review.
>There are no peers for new ideas
Good quote, I used to have that posted over my bedframe as a child. Like many things, it can be distorted from the idea that 'having a new idea makes you the frontrunner', to 'having a new idea makes it unassailable, and the idea man is now the expert'. Thats childish thinking anon.
>Flat earth is not peer reviewed. There's a reason to it.
A reason, yes. Reason, no. This is why the flat earth is utterly incredible. Peer review is where other scientists and practitioners get to recreate the experiment to attempt to find flaw in it, to exhaust whether there is any refutation. Flat earthers dont know the first thing about controls in experimentation, which is why they cant (and have stopped trying 'for a reason') submitting for peer review.
>There are no peers for new ideas
Good quote, I used to have that posted over my bedframe as a child. Like many things, it can be distorted from the idea that 'having a new idea makes you the frontrunner', to 'having a new idea makes it unassailable, and the idea man is now the expert'. Thats childish thinking anon.
Anonymous
No.157939
>>157937
Any scientistute on a payroll can recreate the experiments disproving the curvature of Earth, but they won't because they will be destroyed for even to consider such a heresy to the establishment's faith.
Did you even read this thread? Because it looks like you have no clue about what had been already posted.
Any scientistute on a payroll can recreate the experiments disproving the curvature of Earth, but they won't because they will be destroyed for even to consider such a heresy to the establishment's faith.
Did you even read this thread? Because it looks like you have no clue about what had been already posted.
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>>157940
>gaslighting 101
>You are not seeing what you are seeing
>You are delusional
Okay, beyond the shilling and character assassination, can you prove the existence of a curvature and space? Or is this all you have left?
>gaslighting 101
>You are not seeing what you are seeing
>You are delusional
Okay, beyond the shilling and character assassination, can you prove the existence of a curvature and space? Or is this all you have left?
>>157951
So in summary
>Flat earthers dont do peer review cuz reasons
>Youll accept evidence that passes the scientific method, which includes peer review
Ergo, you admit that Flat earth claims - which are not peer reviewed - do not pass the acceptable threshold of evidence.
So in summary
>Flat earthers dont do peer review cuz reasons
>Youll accept evidence that passes the scientific method, which includes peer review
Ergo, you admit that Flat earth claims - which are not peer reviewed - do not pass the acceptable threshold of evidence.
>>157954
Nope.
NASA heliocentric claims, on which you base your whole faith, fail the scientific method.
This thread is a monument to the truth and your hollow shilling a disgrace.
Nope.
NASA heliocentric claims, on which you base your whole faith, fail the scientific method.
This thread is a monument to the truth and your hollow shilling a disgrace.
The whole point of peer review is so that other credible (read: experienced in the field) professionals can disprove or prove a theory's validity! It is equally about making sure the person(s) conducting the experiment didnt fuck anything up so that the findings can be validated. If flat earth theories ARE valid, where is the hesitation to publish? Let me guess, cuz masons.
>>157958
Im citing that video. You cant reject peer review, and then claim to allow (peer reviewed) scientific method evidence. Your whole premise is based on non-peer-reviewed findings! That you dont comprehend that is evidence of how flimsy your premise is. Its not shilling to ask questions, nor is it shilling to observe the answers and 'evidence', find it laughably unsupportable, and then proceed to illustrate in a variety of ways how it is unsupportable.
It IS shilling to insist that one idea (yours) is correct without an overwhelming volume of evidence, including the peer review process.
Calculus. The only evidence you should need - that fulfills the criteria of peer review, an overwhelming volume of evidence, and universally congruent models - is Calculus. Somehow, I suspect you dont understand Calculus, because if you did we wouldnt be having this "conversation".
Im citing that video. You cant reject peer review, and then claim to allow (peer reviewed) scientific method evidence. Your whole premise is based on non-peer-reviewed findings! That you dont comprehend that is evidence of how flimsy your premise is. Its not shilling to ask questions, nor is it shilling to observe the answers and 'evidence', find it laughably unsupportable, and then proceed to illustrate in a variety of ways how it is unsupportable.
It IS shilling to insist that one idea (yours) is correct without an overwhelming volume of evidence, including the peer review process.
Calculus. The only evidence you should need - that fulfills the criteria of peer review, an overwhelming volume of evidence, and universally congruent models - is Calculus. Somehow, I suspect you dont understand Calculus, because if you did we wouldnt be having this "conversation".
For those just tuning in, OP is operating under the premise that Scientific peer review is NOT
>I have all this evidence of a new set of findings!
<What? That cant be right, let me see. Hmmm, seems plausible. Let me conduct my own experiments and Ill report my findings
and is INSTEAD
>I have all this evidence of a new set of findings!
<What? That cant be allowed to get out, NASA and the masons and every religion have decreed the goyim must not know
And thats just the start!
>I have all this evidence of a new set of findings!
<What? That cant be right, let me see. Hmmm, seems plausible. Let me conduct my own experiments and Ill report my findings
and is INSTEAD
>I have all this evidence of a new set of findings!
<What? That cant be allowed to get out, NASA and the masons and every religion have decreed the goyim must not know
And thats just the start!
Anonymous
No.157962
>>157959
>peer review
If the governments' scientists would step on firm science then many years ago they had debated nut flat earthers and put them in shame, but they didn't and won't.
What we see is silence from them and propagandists doing the speaking. It is very telling indeed.
>I'm citing that video
And by doing so, you are twisting
>Your whole premise is based on non-peer-reviewed findings!
So? No NASA propagandist will try to deny the zoom experiments neither the laser ones; instead they do the same than you: to ignore the evidence and double down with the globe lie.
>peer review
If the governments' scientists would step on firm science then many years ago they had debated nut flat earthers and put them in shame, but they didn't and won't.
What we see is silence from them and propagandists doing the speaking. It is very telling indeed.
>I'm citing that video
And by doing so, you are twisting
>Your whole premise is based on non-peer-reviewed findings!
So? No NASA propagandist will try to deny the zoom experiments neither the laser ones; instead they do the same than you: to ignore the evidence and double down with the globe lie.
>>157961
>For those just tuning in, OP is operating under the premise that Scientific peer review is NOT
By the way, NASA claims fail the scientific method. There is not a curvature to be seen.
>For those just tuning in, OP is operating under the premise that Scientific peer review is NOT
By the way, NASA claims fail the scientific method. There is not a curvature to be seen.
>>157963
The 'evidence' for this claim is refused to be peer reviewed, but expects to be taken as credible.
The 'evidence' for this claim is refused to be peer reviewed, but expects to be taken as credible.
>>157964
Refused by who? When? How?
It is a fucking 1,000 dollars zoom camera a refusal to be reviewed?
It is to go to the shore and shoot a laser across the water a refusal to be reviewed?
It is to launch a camera in a balloon a refusal to be reviewed?
Any of the government employees wearing a lab coat can do that if instructed, but the won't do it. The means to disprove Flat Earth are easily available but they won't do it because they can't.
Refused by who? When? How?
It is a fucking 1,000 dollars zoom camera a refusal to be reviewed?
It is to go to the shore and shoot a laser across the water a refusal to be reviewed?
It is to launch a camera in a balloon a refusal to be reviewed?
Any of the government employees wearing a lab coat can do that if instructed, but the won't do it. The means to disprove Flat Earth are easily available but they won't do it because they can't.
>>157965
What elevation was the laser and the receiver? What natural movement of the boat was caused by currents? Showing a video is not submitting for peer review. Peer review is where you identify EVERY TANGIBLE element to the experiment, document it, and indicate how the presence of each element DOESNT throw the results into astronomical (pun not intended) percentages of error. It is NOT
>Heres a video of us doing a thing. You guys claim it cant happen but we did it see?
What elevation was the laser and the receiver? What natural movement of the boat was caused by currents? Showing a video is not submitting for peer review. Peer review is where you identify EVERY TANGIBLE element to the experiment, document it, and indicate how the presence of each element DOESNT throw the results into astronomical (pun not intended) percentages of error. It is NOT
>Heres a video of us doing a thing. You guys claim it cant happen but we did it see?
>>157967
No u. That experiment doesnt prove shit. An observer cant test whether their measurements are accurate. The ONLY result one can 'conclude' is that more testing is needed.
No u. That experiment doesnt prove shit. An observer cant test whether their measurements are accurate. The ONLY result one can 'conclude' is that more testing is needed.
Anonymous
No.157969
>>157963
>There is not a curvature to be seen.
Have you tried replicating the circumstances, and accounted for all the influential factors to prove that? All you would need is to build a model of the Earth in proportion to a Medigus microcamera (Assuming that it would represent a 5'6" person and build the rest of the model accordingly) and see how it would compare in viewing results on a flat Earth model and a round Earth model.
>There is not a curvature to be seen.
Have you tried replicating the circumstances, and accounted for all the influential factors to prove that? All you would need is to build a model of the Earth in proportion to a Medigus microcamera (Assuming that it would represent a 5'6" person and build the rest of the model accordingly) and see how it would compare in viewing results on a flat Earth model and a round Earth model.
Anonymous
No.157971
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I just had a brilliant idea, have any of you ever thought of making computer simulation models?
All the tools are already out there for free. You just need to download Blender, Unity, or Unreal; build your experiments in those environments to reflect all of the determining factors and showing the difference between the results of a flat Earth model and a round Earth model. Then, once you post your results, distribute the pack (With a checksum to validate it's originality) for others to try out the experiment in their own.
Hell, even if you're not accustom to those environments, you could still try it in mod-friendly games like Half-Life, Doom 3, and GTA.
The only actually cost is the time it takes to build the experiment.
All the tools are already out there for free. You just need to download Blender, Unity, or Unreal; build your experiments in those environments to reflect all of the determining factors and showing the difference between the results of a flat Earth model and a round Earth model. Then, once you post your results, distribute the pack (With a checksum to validate it's originality) for others to try out the experiment in their own.
Hell, even if you're not accustom to those environments, you could still try it in mod-friendly games like Half-Life, Doom 3, and GTA.
The only actually cost is the time it takes to build the experiment.
Anonymous
No.157975
>more evidence
Vector Equilibrium
Vector Equilibrium
Let me explain why I feel the shard earth theory is plausible and the flat earth theory is not.
Understand, Nasa is full of shit.
Understand, Nasa is full of shit.
>>157976
>phone buttons
Im coming at this with a professional engineering applied science (machining and fabrication of metal and lumber), AND a thoroughly tinfoil hat background. I refer to the interview between Credo Mutwa and David Icke on youtube. I find Credos story to be plausible, and the overa4ching story derived of that is that the planet experienced a cataclysm, and a giant chunk of the earth is missing. This would coincide with the passing of planet X on the 'anniversary' of the astrological alignment with the Giza plateau. Thats going to be the subject of the next post in thr History is a Lie thread, spoilers.
>phone buttons
Im coming at this with a professional engineering applied science (machining and fabrication of metal and lumber), AND a thoroughly tinfoil hat background. I refer to the interview between Credo Mutwa and David Icke on youtube. I find Credos story to be plausible, and the overa4ching story derived of that is that the planet experienced a cataclysm, and a giant chunk of the earth is missing. This would coincide with the passing of planet X on the 'anniversary' of the astrological alignment with the Giza plateau. Thats going to be the subject of the next post in thr History is a Lie thread, spoilers.
Anonymous
No.157978
>>157977
Checking my dubs.
That theory allows for the diminished curvature of the planet, while still allowing for spheroid geometry to work everywhere except the earth, as flat earth claims. The moon is a gravitational counter-weight to allow the earth to maintain a stable orbit, and thats also why we only see one side of the moon. Nazis did escape to space on spacecraft taught by the vril (nordics, theyre referred to), mars used to be fully inhabited, the solar system got fucked.
I dont contest history is a lie, Im saying flat earth is an unsatisfactory theory to explain errors in the official narrative
Checking my dubs.
That theory allows for the diminished curvature of the planet, while still allowing for spheroid geometry to work everywhere except the earth, as flat earth claims. The moon is a gravitational counter-weight to allow the earth to maintain a stable orbit, and thats also why we only see one side of the moon. Nazis did escape to space on spacecraft taught by the vril (nordics, theyre referred to), mars used to be fully inhabited, the solar system got fucked.
I dont contest history is a lie, Im saying flat earth is an unsatisfactory theory to explain errors in the official narrative
Anonymous
No.157979
Ergo, Antarctica is either a giant crater OR the border of what remains of a much larger planet that collided with the earth millennia ago, explaining the downfall from the heights of Atlantis, where we coexisted with countless alien races. They all watched it happen, and we are what is left of those who somehow survived
Excuse me, thats not accurate. Its the border of a much larger planet that WAS earth, that is now a smaller shard.
Anonymous
No.157981
But its not 'flat', thats absurd.
mic drop
mic drop
Oh yeah
>Mars
Used to be fully inhabited by humans and other races, still is by multiple races with a small contingent of human 'ambassadors' as it were, became surface uninhabitable when the cataclysm threw off its previous orbit with earth
>Mars
Used to be fully inhabited by humans and other races, still is by multiple races with a small contingent of human 'ambassadors' as it were, became surface uninhabitable when the cataclysm threw off its previous orbit with earth
>>157982
I havent been briefed or anything, I just worked it all out. Anyway, I guarantee all this shit is classified
I havent been briefed or anything, I just worked it all out. Anyway, I guarantee all this shit is classified
>>157983
>I guarantee all this shit is classified
I've seen it for myself, it's all next to the classified documents about time traveling computers who have come to collect sperm samples of 21st century men and return to the 24th century because future humans have become sterile as a result of the moon colliding with the other end of our Earth shard and releasing all of it's radiation.
>I guarantee all this shit is classified
I've seen it for myself, it's all next to the classified documents about time traveling computers who have come to collect sperm samples of 21st century men and return to the 24th century because future humans have become sterile as a result of the moon colliding with the other end of our Earth shard and releasing all of it's radiation.
Anonymous
No.157985
>>157983
This is why the theory of evolution doesnt add up, this is why the control systems are in place to maintain ignorance in the masses and allow an elite class who literally control our every move (the masons ARE involved, Ill admit that). This is why media control, financial control, locational control. This is a prison-planet in that humanity cant leave, and certain factions of alirn do do crazy spoopy shit. They also aid those who properly ask, and metaphysics is the proper way.
This is why the theory of evolution doesnt add up, this is why the control systems are in place to maintain ignorance in the masses and allow an elite class who literally control our every move (the masons ARE involved, Ill admit that). This is why media control, financial control, locational control. This is a prison-planet in that humanity cant leave, and certain factions of alirn do do crazy spoopy shit. They also aid those who properly ask, and metaphysics is the proper way.
Anonymous
No.157986
But the earth is not flat
Anonymous
No.157987
Consider the above rant the first 'official' summary-publication of my amalgamated tinfoil hat theory that includes and is corroborated by crater/shard-earth theory, and therefore isnt off topic lol
Anonymous
No.157988
>>157984
Hadnt heard that one, but it sounds plausible. Got any sauce before I dmor?
Also, the vaccine will have more to do with the sterilization of humanity than the planet strike, but yes there will be a planet strike
Hadnt heard that one, but it sounds plausible. Got any sauce before I dmor?
Also, the vaccine will have more to do with the sterilization of humanity than the planet strike, but yes there will be a planet strike
And now Ill do somethong flat earthers CANT do, Ill tell you why this matters.
Because its about to happen again. Planet x is still in its irregular yet stable orbit, and in the cosmic aftermath of its collision with the earth it now does a planetary flyby every 'so often', which explains the mud flood, and all the rest I will be going into in the history is a lie thread.
Because its about to happen again. Planet x is still in its irregular yet stable orbit, and in the cosmic aftermath of its collision with the earth it now does a planetary flyby every 'so often', which explains the mud flood, and all the rest I will be going into in the history is a lie thread.
Anonymous
No.157990
>>157989
(it mightve been the moon that collided with the earth, one cant be certain it was planet x, but one could surmise that planet x was involved)
(it mightve been the moon that collided with the earth, one cant be certain it was planet x, but one could surmise that planet x was involved)
One might even go so far as to suggest that the moon is a hollowed out planetoid/spacecraft that used to orbit planet x but was deliberately positioned to collide with the earth, but that would be silly
>>157991
>a hollowed out planetoid/spacecraft that used to orbit planet x but was deliberately positioned to collide with the earth, but that would be silly
Why? Humanity is the only species in the known universe that can saw off it's only leg, then immediately get back up and start running again. Not to mention the horniest fuckers in the galaxy. Who WOULDN'T want to annihilate us when we're the stuff of nightmares?
>a hollowed out planetoid/spacecraft that used to orbit planet x but was deliberately positioned to collide with the earth, but that would be silly
Why? Humanity is the only species in the known universe that can saw off it's only leg, then immediately get back up and start running again. Not to mention the horniest fuckers in the galaxy. Who WOULDN'T want to annihilate us when we're the stuff of nightmares?
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Anonymous
No.157994
>>157992
We didnt use to be, thats the point. The inhabitants of planet x didnt just wreck the earth, they fucked with the dna of the surviving humans and established their genetic offspring as the de facto rulers of a now stone age earth, with humanity as a slave race
We didnt use to be, thats the point. The inhabitants of planet x didnt just wreck the earth, they fucked with the dna of the surviving humans and established their genetic offspring as the de facto rulers of a now stone age earth, with humanity as a slave race
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>>157974
I have built solar system models for fun in Unity and OpenGL before (to the point at some point I realized I was replicating Orbiter, the simulator and decided to stop before I comitted to such a gargantuan project). But I love making simulations.
There is a flat Earth model simulation on Steam, but it's a joke.
I once saw an animation that portrayed the spiraling of the Sun and Moon over a flat Earth in a way that was realistic. I forgot what they're called, but there's these circular paper things that have rotating parts and map the trayectory of the Sun, the Moon and the stars over a whole year. That could be coded and expanded to make a flat Earth simulation.
However, in terms of optics, to account for the way we observe the atmosphere and whatnot, such a simulation would require insane (and possibly not yet fully known) things going on with difraction and distortion of light, atmospheric densities, etc.
A semi-realistic simulation. In contrast, the required mathematics and physics you need to know to begin implementing something like https://spaceengine.org/ are very basic in comparison. They complicate only as you ramp up realism and visual fidelity. And most important of all, what your simulation shows you matches perfectly with what you see when you look outside, from ground level, from a plane…, whatever.
>By clicking New Reply, I acknowledge the existence of the Israeli nuclear arsenal.
LOL. I had not noticed this until now.
I have built solar system models for fun in Unity and OpenGL before (to the point at some point I realized I was replicating Orbiter, the simulator and decided to stop before I comitted to such a gargantuan project). But I love making simulations.
There is a flat Earth model simulation on Steam, but it's a joke.
I once saw an animation that portrayed the spiraling of the Sun and Moon over a flat Earth in a way that was realistic. I forgot what they're called, but there's these circular paper things that have rotating parts and map the trayectory of the Sun, the Moon and the stars over a whole year. That could be coded and expanded to make a flat Earth simulation.
However, in terms of optics, to account for the way we observe the atmosphere and whatnot, such a simulation would require insane (and possibly not yet fully known) things going on with difraction and distortion of light, atmospheric densities, etc.
A semi-realistic simulation. In contrast, the required mathematics and physics you need to know to begin implementing something like https://spaceengine.org/ are very basic in comparison. They complicate only as you ramp up realism and visual fidelity. And most important of all, what your simulation shows you matches perfectly with what you see when you look outside, from ground level, from a plane…, whatever.
>By clicking New Reply, I acknowledge the existence of the Israeli nuclear arsenal.
LOL. I had not noticed this until now.
>>157980
Wouldn't such a shard collapse into a spheroid fairly quickly (in geological scale) due to its own gravity?
Wouldn't such a shard collapse into a spheroid fairly quickly (in geological scale) due to its own gravity?
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>>158021
Sorry for the triple post, but I just remembered. It's a planisphere. I once saw one like pic related with removable layers that showed the movement of the Sun and the Moon over the four seasons, and it accounted for things like eclipses, even.
But see, that's the thing. At its best, the flat Earth model is just a projection of observations made from a sphere into a circle.
And I say flat Earth is a projection from a sphere and not the inverse because so far flat Earth fails to account for a few key observations such as 24 h sunlight in Antartica, Moon image reversals, precession of the equinoxes or parallax in stars over extended periods of time without resorting to all-knowing all-powerful gaslighting conspirators or extremely complex physics and math gymnastics that involve new problems and contradictions with the existing model.
Sorry for the triple post, but I just remembered. It's a planisphere. I once saw one like pic related with removable layers that showed the movement of the Sun and the Moon over the four seasons, and it accounted for things like eclipses, even.
But see, that's the thing. At its best, the flat Earth model is just a projection of observations made from a sphere into a circle.
And I say flat Earth is a projection from a sphere and not the inverse because so far flat Earth fails to account for a few key observations such as 24 h sunlight in Antartica, Moon image reversals, precession of the equinoxes or parallax in stars over extended periods of time without resorting to all-knowing all-powerful gaslighting conspirators or extremely complex physics and math gymnastics that involve new problems and contradictions with the existing model.
>>158023
>key observations such as 24 h sunlight in Antartica
For the time being it is only a myth as no independent witness can corroborate it.
>key observations such as 24 h sunlight in Antartica
For the time being it is only a myth as no independent witness can corroborate it.
>>158022
I guess? I imagine it would depend on how much was left and what that shape is, but I could also see the presence of the moon acting like a form of gravity field counter-balance to offset? Pure speculation
I guess? I imagine it would depend on how much was left and what that shape is, but I could also see the presence of the moon acting like a form of gravity field counter-balance to offset? Pure speculation
>>158025
>For the time being it is only a myth as no independent witness can corroborate it.
>independent
See, the problem is that most flat earthers only accept their own experience there as "independent". They would sooner contemplate the idea of a family member who claimed such experience being a paid shill than considering they might be wrong.
Anyway, I found this video, which I think contains enough information to be implementable as an interactive 3D simulation. I'm getting really hard just thinking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYv7gpFc_7o
>For the time being it is only a myth as no independent witness can corroborate it.
>independent
See, the problem is that most flat earthers only accept their own experience there as "independent". They would sooner contemplate the idea of a family member who claimed such experience being a paid shill than considering they might be wrong.
Anyway, I found this video, which I think contains enough information to be implementable as an interactive 3D simulation. I'm getting really hard just thinking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYv7gpFc_7o
>>158028
>See, the problem is that most flat earthers only accept their own experience there as "independent".
If the witness is on a masonic payroll and bounded by legal coercion, then it is not independent.
>See, the problem is that most flat earthers only accept their own experience there as "independent".
If the witness is on a masonic payroll and bounded by legal coercion, then it is not independent.
>>158029
And the criteria by which you know whether they are on a masonic payroll is whether they are against flat Earth.
And the criteria by which you know whether they are on a masonic payroll is whether they are against flat Earth.
Anonymous
No.158031
>>158030
>And the criteria...
For that you need to lurk moar. Redpilling is a process that cannot be hurried.
>And the criteria...
For that you need to lurk moar. Redpilling is a process that cannot be hurried.
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I've hit my first stumbling block trying to implement a flat Earth simulation.
In order for the terminator to be a straight line across all the meridians, the Sun light source would need to be placed at an infinite distance. Otherwise it's always curved. You can see it in the second gif in the OP. The surface on which that sun is shining has some sort of distortion. It's not flat (ironically).
Can someone point me to the measurements and distances proposed by the flat Earth theory? It would make implementing this much easier. Thanks.
In order for the terminator to be a straight line across all the meridians, the Sun light source would need to be placed at an infinite distance. Otherwise it's always curved. You can see it in the second gif in the OP. The surface on which that sun is shining has some sort of distortion. It's not flat (ironically).
Can someone point me to the measurements and distances proposed by the flat Earth theory? It would make implementing this much easier. Thanks.
>>158033
Can you point me to measurements and distances so I can implement a 3D model of the flat Earth correctly modeled please?
Can you point me to measurements and distances so I can implement a 3D model of the flat Earth correctly modeled please?
Anonymous
No.158035
It would be great if any glober could explain the following, it is damning at least for the scientists and academics on a payroll since this detail in the heliocentric model cannot escape their attention and only willing deception can explain their silence:
>Daylight Debunks the Globe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlNhPXCH5cA
Mirror:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Daylight-Debunks-the-Globe:0
>Daylight Debunks the Globe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlNhPXCH5cA
Mirror:
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/Daylight-Debunks-the-Globe:0
>>158036
You cant grasp how the slight extention of progress (4 minutes a day) translates to a 90 degree correction over a 3 month period?
Lets get real simple. 4 min/day x 365 days/year = 1460 accrued minutes per year. Mathematically, that means 24.33 hours per year.
But wait now, we're going quarterly. Okay, 6 hours per quarter.
Hmmm, 6 hours per 3 month period. 6 hours is - wait for it- the amount of time it takes to rotate 90 devrees.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Try again.
You cant grasp how the slight extention of progress (4 minutes a day) translates to a 90 degree correction over a 3 month period?
Lets get real simple. 4 min/day x 365 days/year = 1460 accrued minutes per year. Mathematically, that means 24.33 hours per year.
But wait now, we're going quarterly. Okay, 6 hours per quarter.
Hmmm, 6 hours per 3 month period. 6 hours is - wait for it- the amount of time it takes to rotate 90 devrees.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Try again.
Anonymous
No.158038
I found a channel with a model that seems descriptive enough to implement as a 3D simulation. However, the mathematical hoops involved are absolutely insane. This is much more complicated than creating a 3D globular planetarium. And the guy has the gall to say that the globe is based on "mathematical impossibilities". What the actual fuck man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LREtlSGsCV0
>>158036
See >>158037
You can find many ways this is explained in the video comments:
>When the earth spins on its axis, it points back in the same direction every 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4.09 seconds. It then takes another 3 minutes and 55.51 seconds to point back at the sun. Humans chose 24 hours to be from noon to noon based on the sun, not based on the position of the stars.
>3:47 "how come no one else in the world before us ever discovered that the 24 hour day is incorrect by 4 minutes?"
>this isn't true, i can for certainty that the Romans knew about this as early and before Julius Caesar.
>the consuls used to have adjust Rome's calendar regularly.
>Julius Caesar wanted the process to no longer require Consul to perform, so he automated the process by simply adding the concept of the leap to the calendars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LREtlSGsCV0
>>158036
See >>158037
You can find many ways this is explained in the video comments:
>When the earth spins on its axis, it points back in the same direction every 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4.09 seconds. It then takes another 3 minutes and 55.51 seconds to point back at the sun. Humans chose 24 hours to be from noon to noon based on the sun, not based on the position of the stars.
>3:47 "how come no one else in the world before us ever discovered that the 24 hour day is incorrect by 4 minutes?"
>this isn't true, i can for certainty that the Romans knew about this as early and before Julius Caesar.
>the consuls used to have adjust Rome's calendar regularly.
>Julius Caesar wanted the process to no longer require Consul to perform, so he automated the process by simply adding the concept of the leap to the calendars
>>158028
Another problem with flat earthers - specifically the more delusional variety - is that there is often a lived sense of helplessness, that the thought "Ive been lied to" is very gratifying, as it allows them to 'break free' of their 'intellectual bondage'. The problem then becomes that their theory is juvenile in the least. As Ive ind8cated, I concur with OP that the planet is not a sphere, or if it is its a highly modified one. However, one model co forms with natural laws and ohenomenon, whereas the other attempts to throw out things that are so observably endemic that one wonders. This creates a double trap. They cant go back to the pure globe model, and theyre supporting a model that is quite unsupportable.
Then they have to realize that they emancipated themselves from one intellectual prison and into another one, which many people simply are either unable or unwilling to do.
Another problem with flat earthers - specifically the more delusional variety - is that there is often a lived sense of helplessness, that the thought "Ive been lied to" is very gratifying, as it allows them to 'break free' of their 'intellectual bondage'. The problem then becomes that their theory is juvenile in the least. As Ive ind8cated, I concur with OP that the planet is not a sphere, or if it is its a highly modified one. However, one model co forms with natural laws and ohenomenon, whereas the other attempts to throw out things that are so observably endemic that one wonders. This creates a double trap. They cant go back to the pure globe model, and theyre supporting a model that is quite unsupportable.
Then they have to realize that they emancipated themselves from one intellectual prison and into another one, which many people simply are either unable or unwilling to do.
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>>158039
>Then they have to realize that they emancipated themselves from one intellectual prison and into another one, which many people simply are either unable or unwilling to do.
That is an interesting observation. Not long ago I discussed with a friend how most people who "believe the Earth is round" do so because it is the consensus. They are, in fact, no different than most flat Earthers. They chose a consensus, usually by emotional attachment, and defend it as Truth when in reality it is Belief.
I think this crisis of truth and trust we are living in has the potential to emancipate a lot of us intellectually. To realize that as long as they are applicable to any part of empirical experience, models don't need to be exclusive. They illuminate part of Truth. And no model illuminates all of it anyway.
The problem lies in pretending any one model or map of reality is Truth, and is absolute. The Aquarian age is holocentric. That's why we're having crisis in which no dogma seems to be able to dominate, and it will be even more so in the decades to come. Only those able to transcend cognitive dissonance, duality and polarization will survive intellectually (and possibly spiritually). The rest will be forever NPCs stuck in the hells they themselves create.
>Then they have to realize that they emancipated themselves from one intellectual prison and into another one, which many people simply are either unable or unwilling to do.
That is an interesting observation. Not long ago I discussed with a friend how most people who "believe the Earth is round" do so because it is the consensus. They are, in fact, no different than most flat Earthers. They chose a consensus, usually by emotional attachment, and defend it as Truth when in reality it is Belief.
I think this crisis of truth and trust we are living in has the potential to emancipate a lot of us intellectually. To realize that as long as they are applicable to any part of empirical experience, models don't need to be exclusive. They illuminate part of Truth. And no model illuminates all of it anyway.
The problem lies in pretending any one model or map of reality is Truth, and is absolute. The Aquarian age is holocentric. That's why we're having crisis in which no dogma seems to be able to dominate, and it will be even more so in the decades to come. Only those able to transcend cognitive dissonance, duality and polarization will survive intellectually (and possibly spiritually). The rest will be forever NPCs stuck in the hells they themselves create.
>>158040
It might just be semantics, but there appears to be an element of intellectual dishonesty to it. I freely admit I hve no first-hand evidence that the planet is any: sphere, shard, flat, pony. The confidence I have in the models I will argue (sphere/shard) is derived from their interconnectivity. Math constants lead to math constants, etc. Flat Earthers believe (as in conviction) and proclaim "This is debunked" when its not, "This is true" when the evidence doesnt aupport, and impugn the motives of anyone who argues against. And the sheer arrogance is baffling.
It might just be semantics, but there appears to be an element of intellectual dishonesty to it. I freely admit I hve no first-hand evidence that the planet is any: sphere, shard, flat, pony. The confidence I have in the models I will argue (sphere/shard) is derived from their interconnectivity. Math constants lead to math constants, etc. Flat Earthers believe (as in conviction) and proclaim "This is debunked" when its not, "This is true" when the evidence doesnt aupport, and impugn the motives of anyone who argues against. And the sheer arrogance is baffling.
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>>158041
>Flat Earthers believe (as in conviction) and proclaim "This is debunked" when its not,
Let's go back to the very basics, if the curvature is not found, then the whole heliocentric theory falls in a spectacular fashion.
You can spin it any way you like, BUT, if there is no curve, then there are not any globe and space.
>Flat Earthers believe (as in conviction) and proclaim "This is debunked" when its not,
Let's go back to the very basics, if the curvature is not found, then the whole heliocentric theory falls in a spectacular fashion.
You can spin it any way you like, BUT, if there is no curve, then there are not any globe and space.
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Refute THIS (protip: you can't)
>curvature
https://youtu.be/EQa4u_Xgy8Q
Start at about 41:00 to 45:00
See what I did there? I actually know what counts as evidence, and rather than demand you pour through shit, I focused on the tangible part. Thats what you do in an argument, instead of petulent demands and proclamations
https://youtu.be/EQa4u_Xgy8Q
Start at about 41:00 to 45:00
See what I did there? I actually know what counts as evidence, and rather than demand you pour through shit, I focused on the tangible part. Thats what you do in an argument, instead of petulent demands and proclamations
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And for more of the meta of Flat Earth
https://youtu.be/umo6pMCkcXs
>pics semi related, but more to get that shit off the homepage
https://youtu.be/umo6pMCkcXs
>pics semi related, but more to get that shit off the homepage
>>158055
>SciManDan
That NASA shill is famous, there are hundreds of videos from him and about him debunking and rebunking every topic. Worth to watch for entertainment purposes.
>>158056
I watched it a bit and is all about character assassination (optics) going so far as to call the opposition anti-semite. It is not serious and lacks of scientific arguments when the video creator has to resort to buzzing words.
>SciManDan
That NASA shill is famous, there are hundreds of videos from him and about him debunking and rebunking every topic. Worth to watch for entertainment purposes.
>>158056
I watched it a bit and is all about character assassination (optics) going so far as to call the opposition anti-semite. It is not serious and lacks of scientific arguments when the video creator has to resort to buzzing words.
Anonymous
No.158058
>>158057
So, you didnt watch the 4 minutes I specify,where you can see an ocean tanker halfway down the horizon?
So, you didnt watch the 4 minutes I specify,where you can see an ocean tanker halfway down the horizon?
>>158057
>that guy is a shill
Literal strawman ad hominem. Two for one. Bravo. Also, you never claim he's wrong, probably because he understands evidence and presents it
>that guy is a shill
Literal strawman ad hominem. Two for one. Bravo. Also, you never claim he's wrong, probably because he understands evidence and presents it
>>158059
>Also, you never claim he's wrong, probably because he understands evidence and presents it
There is something very interesting about SciManDan, for every video he releases debunking X, 2 or 3 counter-videos pop up to refute his claims. But it gets still more interesting when he launches a second one to "crash" the video responses and of course, more videos responding him show up. It never ends.
I stop watching them long ago because you will never know who really won the argument.
>Also, you never claim he's wrong, probably because he understands evidence and presents it
There is something very interesting about SciManDan, for every video he releases debunking X, 2 or 3 counter-videos pop up to refute his claims. But it gets still more interesting when he launches a second one to "crash" the video responses and of course, more videos responding him show up. It never ends.
I stop watching them long ago because you will never know who really won the argument.
>>158060
Thats a lovely exposition that in no way addressed the barges halfway down the horizon. Focus, nigger.
Thats a lovely exposition that in no way addressed the barges halfway down the horizon. Focus, nigger.
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Since I KNOW youre dumb and stupid, heres the stills
Anonymous
No.158064
No, thats not redundant. Dumb historically referred to a person's intellectual capacity, while stupid refers to ignorance
>>158061
We’ve managed so far to keep this thread to degenerate into name calling. That’s quite a feat for a flat Earth thread.
For all we know, the whole thing could be engineered to pit the goys against each other. Don’t fall for it. We are civilized spiritual beings.
We’ve managed so far to keep this thread to degenerate into name calling. That’s quite a feat for a flat Earth thread.
For all we know, the whole thing could be engineered to pit the goys against each other. Don’t fall for it. We are civilized spiritual beings.
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>>158041
I have come across a very relevant reflection on this issue of knowing while reading The Ahrimanic Deception by Rudolf Steiner. This is not a coincidence.
I have come across a very relevant reflection on this issue of knowing while reading The Ahrimanic Deception by Rudolf Steiner. This is not a coincidence.
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>7 Rockets Hitting The Dome or Firmament
>Video compilation of several rockets reaching the firmament above the Earth. We live in a sealed environment, we have never been to space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rmDj1MJyaY
>Video compilation of several rockets reaching the firmament above the Earth. We live in a sealed environment, we have never been to space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rmDj1MJyaY
Anonymous
No.158099
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LOL the comment section is GOLD! Some of the finest schadenfreude Ive ever experienced!
Yet, interspersed are some comments worth sharing.
Yet, interspersed are some comments worth sharing.
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>>158100
>Some of the finest schadenfreude Ive ever experienced!
I know that feeling, it is glorious to see how fanatic and illogical globers are.
>Some of the finest schadenfreude Ive ever experienced!
I know that feeling, it is glorious to see how fanatic and illogical globers are.
More grist for the mill
https://youtu.be/rjYc8h3xt-E
>Inside Flat Earth: An Exposè by an Ex-Flat Earther
https://youtu.be/rjYc8h3xt-E
>Inside Flat Earth: An Exposè by an Ex-Flat Earther
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