Welcome back to thread number like 5 or 6 of Occupied Equestria, a My Little Pony RP based heavily upon the Equestria at War mod for Hearts of Iron 4, and using the mechanics of D&D 3.5, and set in South-East Equestria after it has been conquered and split between the Changelings and a foreign fascist power
Onyx is cleaning glasses, Spark has secured a contract to clear a quarry of Zombies for a real estate developer, Silver is eating meat, Ash and Iron are trying to raid what they believe to be a gangster's den, and Dark Star is holding hooves.
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>>75670
I was expecting you to travel yesterday since I believe you are doing this for family meetings, right?
I was expecting you to travel yesterday since I believe you are doing this for family meetings, right?
What do you all think the classes of characters in the show would be if they played?
I would say:
>Fluttershy: Druid
>Pinkie Pie: Jester (or just Bard)
>Twilight Sparkle (pre-alicorn): Wizard (Loremaster Prc)
>Applejack: Ranger
>Rainbow Dash: Fighter/Rogue (maybe >Duelist Prc or Thief Acrobat Prc)
>Rarity: Sorceress
>Tempest Shadow: Warlock
>Starlight Glimmer: Wizard (Enchanter Specialization; Mindbender PrC)
>Sunburst: Also wizard (evoker)
>Shining Armor: Paladin, maybe Battle Sorcerer
>Princess Cadence: Favored Soul
>Celestia: Cleric (Sun and Celestial Domains)
>Luna: Cleric (Dream and Mind Domains)
>Zecora: Druid
>Meadowbrook: Also Druid
>Sonambula: Cleric
>Mistmane: Sha'hir (Chink Sorcerer)
>Starswirl: Vanilla Wizard
>Rockhoof: Barbarian
>Flash Magnus: Fighter; possibly Paladin
For OCs
>Aryanne: Urban Ranger
>Fireaxe: Paladin
I would say:
>Fluttershy: Druid
>Pinkie Pie: Jester (or just Bard)
>Twilight Sparkle (pre-alicorn): Wizard (Loremaster Prc)
>Applejack: Ranger
>Rainbow Dash: Fighter/Rogue (maybe >Duelist Prc or Thief Acrobat Prc)
>Rarity: Sorceress
>Tempest Shadow: Warlock
>Starlight Glimmer: Wizard (Enchanter Specialization; Mindbender PrC)
>Sunburst: Also wizard (evoker)
>Shining Armor: Paladin, maybe Battle Sorcerer
>Princess Cadence: Favored Soul
>Celestia: Cleric (Sun and Celestial Domains)
>Luna: Cleric (Dream and Mind Domains)
>Zecora: Druid
>Meadowbrook: Also Druid
>Sonambula: Cleric
>Mistmane: Sha'hir (Chink Sorcerer)
>Starswirl: Vanilla Wizard
>Rockhoof: Barbarian
>Flash Magnus: Fighter; possibly Paladin
For OCs
>Aryanne: Urban Ranger
>Fireaxe: Paladin
>>75677
Discord is seemingly the most powerful being in the Equestrian universe. I'd judge roll him out as an concordant dragon (great wyrm) who becane a literal god of chaos by taking the Epic Dragon's Ascentant Prestige class. Dragons of his age could naturally become deities through their own power (after all, they're the strongest creatures).
He's at least a rank 5 demigod, possibly a greater Deity. Considering his ability to manipulate his form and reality around him at will, it would suggest that he's a Greater Deity, possibly ranked 6 through 16.
His Salient Abilities (if rank 6) could include:
>Alter Reality
>Alter Size
>Alter Form
>Shift Form
>Shapechange
>Waves of Chaos
>Divine Spellcasting
>Automatic Metamagick (quicken and sculpt spell)
Discord is seemingly the most powerful being in the Equestrian universe. I'd judge roll him out as an concordant dragon (great wyrm) who becane a literal god of chaos by taking the Epic Dragon's Ascentant Prestige class. Dragons of his age could naturally become deities through their own power (after all, they're the strongest creatures).
He's at least a rank 5 demigod, possibly a greater Deity. Considering his ability to manipulate his form and reality around him at will, it would suggest that he's a Greater Deity, possibly ranked 6 through 16.
His Salient Abilities (if rank 6) could include:
>Alter Reality
>Alter Size
>Alter Form
>Shift Form
>Shapechange
>Waves of Chaos
>Divine Spellcasting
>Automatic Metamagick (quicken and sculpt spell)
>>75678
If Discord is the most powerful being in the Equestrian universe on his own merits, would that make the Elements of Harmony the strongest weapons?
If Discord is the most powerful being in the Equestrian universe on his own merits, would that make the Elements of Harmony the strongest weapons?
>>75678
Are the salient abilites from the illusion school or the transfiguration school of magic?
Apart from that, I have a few more additions
>Trixie: Sorcerer (Illusion magic+crafting specialization)
>CMC: All bards, cuz they are good with words. (IDK how bards really work)
>Moondancer: Wizard (evoker, just more NEETy)
>Minuette: Cleric (something akin to healing cuz white teeth meme)
Are the salient abilites from the illusion school or the transfiguration school of magic?
Apart from that, I have a few more additions
>Trixie: Sorcerer (Illusion magic+crafting specialization)
>CMC: All bards, cuz they are good with words. (IDK how bards really work)
>Moondancer: Wizard (evoker, just more NEETy)
>Minuette: Cleric (something akin to healing cuz white teeth meme)
>>75679
Well, the elements of Harmony are by definition the only power that could trump his chaos. The tree of Harmony itself served as an artifact-tier eldritch machine with the purpose of suppressing Discord's terror.
There are few ways to defeat Gods, because they're immune to so many things, have divine insight, basically the unlimited magic (if spellcasters), and are generally awesome by definition. Sealing/suppressing/disempowering/convincing/defeating a god quanitifies as an epic quest, and the Tree of Harmony easily fits as an Eldritch machine serving as a plot device in such a quest.
>>75680
He seems to enjoy the school of Transmutation, but his abilities seems more universal, literally bending the universe to his will.
Being an epic dragon god, he has plenty Charisma XP to spare, so he could cast Wish and Limited Wish in the fly with minor relative consequence (because what's 5000 XP when your XP is in the billions?)
Trixie would be Beguiler (simlar to a Bard).
Moondancer is obviously a wizard because
>Books
Minuuette seems like an NPC class tbh; probably Magewright (proffsional caster) or Adept.
Well, the elements of Harmony are by definition the only power that could trump his chaos. The tree of Harmony itself served as an artifact-tier eldritch machine with the purpose of suppressing Discord's terror.
There are few ways to defeat Gods, because they're immune to so many things, have divine insight, basically the unlimited magic (if spellcasters), and are generally awesome by definition. Sealing/suppressing/disempowering/convincing/defeating a god quanitifies as an epic quest, and the Tree of Harmony easily fits as an Eldritch machine serving as a plot device in such a quest.
>>75680
He seems to enjoy the school of Transmutation, but his abilities seems more universal, literally bending the universe to his will.
Being an epic dragon god, he has plenty Charisma XP to spare, so he could cast Wish and Limited Wish in the fly with minor relative consequence (because what's 5000 XP when your XP is in the billions?)
Trixie would be Beguiler (simlar to a Bard).
Moondancer is obviously a wizard because
>Books
Minuuette seems like an NPC class tbh; probably Magewright (proffsional caster) or Adept.
>>75681
>Minuette is an NPC class
I cry.
I guess if she would pick a class, she would pick healing anyways.
>Minuette is an NPC class
I cry.
I guess if she would pick a class, she would pick healing anyways.
>>75682
In all technicality, only a small minority of creatures should advance as elite PC classes. The rest would be "background ponies".
In all technicality, only a small minority of creatures should advance as elite PC classes. The rest would be "background ponies".
>>75682
She could also be an Expert (professional NPC), who took Knowledge (local/medicine), Profession (Dentist), Craft (pharmecudical) and Heal as her class skills. Expert is a good class for NPC creatures that work nonmagical day-to-day skilled jobs (merchants, Carpenters, blacksmiths, sailors, etc).
A healing class would mean Cleric or Adept, but she doesn't really seem extrordinarily devout. Non-magical healing could be a thing too.
She could also be an Expert (professional NPC), who took Knowledge (local/medicine), Profession (Dentist), Craft (pharmecudical) and Heal as her class skills. Expert is a good class for NPC creatures that work nonmagical day-to-day skilled jobs (merchants, Carpenters, blacksmiths, sailors, etc).
A healing class would mean Cleric or Adept, but she doesn't really seem extrordinarily devout. Non-magical healing could be a thing too.
>>75684
>Non-magical healing
Which classes can do that? I don't think potions count because you need to infuse a spell in the potion to have an effect.
>Non-magical healing
Which classes can do that? I don't think potions count because you need to infuse a spell in the potion to have an effect.
>>75685
>Which classes can do that
Rangers, Paladins, Druids, and Clerics all get Heal as a class skill (which makes it useless, because all those classes get healing spells).
Expert is a class that can have any set of skills as class skills: it's convenient for making NPCs who fill a professional niche.
There could also be a Magewright class from Eberron (professional caster). They get int-based spells that are useful as PCs. With the Magecraft spell, a magewright can get a +5 competance bonus to a profession or craft skill check, meaning that they can produce masterwork items and pass high-DC skillchecks at relatively low levels. It's good for PCs that produce consumable alchemical items, or use professional skills that require expertise.
I'm just nerding-out now. Half of this isn't even actual core material, so don't take it to heart.
>Which classes can do that
Rangers, Paladins, Druids, and Clerics all get Heal as a class skill (which makes it useless, because all those classes get healing spells).
Expert is a class that can have any set of skills as class skills: it's convenient for making NPCs who fill a professional niche.
There could also be a Magewright class from Eberron (professional caster). They get int-based spells that are useful as PCs. With the Magecraft spell, a magewright can get a +5 competance bonus to a profession or craft skill check, meaning that they can produce masterwork items and pass high-DC skillchecks at relatively low levels. It's good for PCs that produce consumable alchemical items, or use professional skills that require expertise.
I'm just nerding-out now. Half of this isn't even actual core material, so don't take it to heart.
>>75683
>Background ponies
The only reason I don't give enemy NPCs full classes is because of laziness. And I actually did do that for the advisers and the faction liaisons
>Background ponies
The only reason I don't give enemy NPCs full classes is because of laziness. And I actually did do that for the advisers and the faction liaisons
>>75687
I mean, they are only the NPC variant of rangers since everyone uses guns and shit. And for what I know, guns are exotic weapons, meaning they would need the specific exotic weapon proficiency feat
I mean, they are only the NPC variant of rangers since everyone uses guns and shit. And for what I know, guns are exotic weapons, meaning they would need the specific exotic weapon proficiency feat
>>75687
NPC classes exist mainly because their simple and easy to advance. NPCs can be made in a cookie-cutter fashion. Making a 9th level adept for the PCs to make revives for is much easier than making a 9th level Cleric. There are even guides that make them easy to mass-produce.
It's usually only special villains or recurring NPCs that may advance with heroic/elite PC classes; the others are usually just NPC classes or s combination of the two.
Giving NPCs classes blank classes like Warrior or Commoner are mostly to determine how many hit points they have (in the case of warriors), or how many hit dice they have (to keep Enchanter from just enslaving a billion commoners at once).
NPC classes exist mainly because their simple and easy to advance. NPCs can be made in a cookie-cutter fashion. Making a 9th level adept for the PCs to make revives for is much easier than making a 9th level Cleric. There are even guides that make them easy to mass-produce.
It's usually only special villains or recurring NPCs that may advance with heroic/elite PC classes; the others are usually just NPC classes or s combination of the two.
Giving NPCs classes blank classes like Warrior or Commoner are mostly to determine how many hit points they have (in the case of warriors), or how many hit dice they have (to keep Enchanter from just enslaving a billion commoners at once).
>>75689
Also, Adepts mainly serve as producers of healing potions, since it's a flat rule that only divine casters get healing spells. They're usually the NPCs you pay at the local temple (if there is one) to bring a creature back from the dead, in exchange for a generous (((donation))); if the GM allows that.
Since the players handbook lists costs for professional and non-proffessional hired labor (since OCs might want to hire henchmen to help carry loot out of a dungeon), Spellcasting services, and other NPC things, NPC classes serve to fill in niches in Urban environments, where PCs usually would normally get the chance to stock up on equiptment and whatnot before they head out to the dungeon.
But again, that's just me being a nerd, regurgitating info out of the books. Build the world however you see fit.
Also, Adepts mainly serve as producers of healing potions, since it's a flat rule that only divine casters get healing spells. They're usually the NPCs you pay at the local temple (if there is one) to bring a creature back from the dead, in exchange for a generous (((donation))); if the GM allows that.
Since the players handbook lists costs for professional and non-proffessional hired labor (since OCs might want to hire henchmen to help carry loot out of a dungeon), Spellcasting services, and other NPC things, NPC classes serve to fill in niches in Urban environments, where PCs usually would normally get the chance to stock up on equiptment and whatnot before they head out to the dungeon.
But again, that's just me being a nerd, regurgitating info out of the books. Build the world however you see fit.
I know this is sudden but when did Dark Star interchange his strength and wisdom stats?
>>75692
When he found out he needed Wisdom to cast spells.
For some reason, he insisted on the importance of Charisma.
When he found out he needed Wisdom to cast spells.
For some reason, he insisted on the importance of Charisma.
>>75693
>Cast spells
>Earth pony
I think I'm missing something. Are you sure it's not because of negativie initiative factors from low wisdom?
>Cast spells
>Earth pony
I think I'm missing something. Are you sure it's not because of negativie initiative factors from low wisdom?
>>75694
Your initiative is determined by dex.
Rangers can cast a handful of low-power Divine spells, with Wisdom as their relevant stat.
Your initiative is determined by dex.
Rangers can cast a handful of low-power Divine spells, with Wisdom as their relevant stat.
>>75696
As far as I understand, he seems to have just forgotten to pray for his spells every day so far...
As far as I understand, he seems to have just forgotten to pray for his spells every day so far...
>>75697
Too busy with pegasus pussy, I bet. Any spells you think are good for rangers for him to pick up later?
Too busy with pegasus pussy, I bet. Any spells you think are good for rangers for him to pick up later?
>>75698
Ranger spells are prepared day by day, but if he asked for advice, I know some cool ones from other books that could serve him well.
Rangers can be pretty great at fighting Aberrations and Vermin.
Ranger spells are prepared day by day, but if he asked for advice, I know some cool ones from other books that could serve him well.
Rangers can be pretty great at fighting Aberrations and Vermin.
>>75699
>Vermin
What a coincidence that he had spells for vermin of all things. It's practically destiny that he is the harbringer of changeling doom. I really hope he reads this, then.
>Vermin
What a coincidence that he had spells for vermin of all things. It's practically destiny that he is the harbringer of changeling doom. I really hope he reads this, then.
>>75699
Feats too, and prestige classes.
There's also an urban ranger variant in UA that could be more useful in this particular campaign.
>>75700
Rangers get Repell Vermin as a third level spell. There are also niche feats for Druids and Rangers that make them better at fighting with/against vermin and Aberrations. Rangers are all about finding and eliminating their favored enemies.
It would depend on what creature subtype Changlings fall under though. They seem to me like Aberrations, possibly with the Augmented Vermin subtype.
Feats too, and prestige classes.
There's also an urban ranger variant in UA that could be more useful in this particular campaign.
>>75700
Rangers get Repell Vermin as a third level spell. There are also niche feats for Druids and Rangers that make them better at fighting with/against vermin and Aberrations. Rangers are all about finding and eliminating their favored enemies.
It would depend on what creature subtype Changlings fall under though. They seem to me like Aberrations, possibly with the Augmented Vermin subtype.
>>75701
In particular, Child of Winter, is a feat from Eberron that allows Rangers and Druids to cast spells on Vermin as though they were animals./: That makes spells like Hide From Animals, Detect Animals, and Hold Animal much more useful in a campaign that includes a lot of bugs. It's a prerquisite for Vermin Companion (let's you bond with a giant spider or something similar) and Vermin Wildshape (let's you turn into a spider or something similar).
Child of Winter requires non-good alignment though, so I won't bother with it. I want to be an exalted ascetic, so I'm sticking to the path of pure Neutral Good.
In particular, Child of Winter, is a feat from Eberron that allows Rangers and Druids to cast spells on Vermin as though they were animals./: That makes spells like Hide From Animals, Detect Animals, and Hold Animal much more useful in a campaign that includes a lot of bugs. It's a prerquisite for Vermin Companion (let's you bond with a giant spider or something similar) and Vermin Wildshape (let's you turn into a spider or something similar).
Child of Winter requires non-good alignment though, so I won't bother with it. I want to be an exalted ascetic, so I'm sticking to the path of pure Neutral Good.
>>75702
Favored Enemy is the most unique class feature for Rangers; thus, there are a lot of feats in other books that are related too it.
In particular, Nemesis, Improved Favored Enemy, Murderous Intent, Favored Critical, Extra Favored Enemy, and Wise To Your Ways are particularly useful for Rangers who want to 1-shot their favored Enemies in combat.
Favored Enemy is the most unique class feature for Rangers; thus, there are a lot of feats in other books that are related too it.
In particular, Nemesis, Improved Favored Enemy, Murderous Intent, Favored Critical, Extra Favored Enemy, and Wise To Your Ways are particularly useful for Rangers who want to 1-shot their favored Enemies in combat.
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>>75704
Spells help too, like Foebane, Exacting Shot, Mark of the Hunter, Implacable Pursuer, or Detect Favored Enemy.
Spells help too, like Foebane, Exacting Shot, Mark of the Hunter, Implacable Pursuer, or Detect Favored Enemy.
>>75705
Probably the most notable thing about the ranger class is that the bonus damage to your favored enemies is multiplied by crits. A crossbow crits 19-20, but a Longbow crits ×3 on a 20, which means a 3/5 chance of dealing double damage. A ranger want to rank up his decision score, to ensure that he confirms threats every single time, because he'll usually be attacking from a distance with concealment (best to end things while you have the advantage).
Favored Critical is the only crit-enhancing effect I know that explicitly stacks with keen weapons: a ranger with a keened crossbow (keen weapons and ammunition aren't that expensive) threatens 15-20 against his favored enemy.
Murderous Intent causes you to automatically confirm any critical threat made against one of your favored enemies (nothing sucks more than failing to confirm a critical hit), in addition to causing the dread effect. It's a Vile feat though (for rangers consumed by hatred) so only neutral or evil rangers can take it.
Nemesis is an exalted feat (goes with feats like Vow of Poverty, or Vow of Chastity): it'll basically allow you to detect one of your favored enemies within 60 feat, the same way a Paladin can detect evil, in addition to the extra damage. You couldn't take that at the same time you took a vile feat though, unless you were neutral.
Probably the most notable thing about the ranger class is that the bonus damage to your favored enemies is multiplied by crits. A crossbow crits 19-20, but a Longbow crits ×3 on a 20, which means a 3/5 chance of dealing double damage. A ranger want to rank up his decision score, to ensure that he confirms threats every single time, because he'll usually be attacking from a distance with concealment (best to end things while you have the advantage).
Favored Critical is the only crit-enhancing effect I know that explicitly stacks with keen weapons: a ranger with a keened crossbow (keen weapons and ammunition aren't that expensive) threatens 15-20 against his favored enemy.
Murderous Intent causes you to automatically confirm any critical threat made against one of your favored enemies (nothing sucks more than failing to confirm a critical hit), in addition to causing the dread effect. It's a Vile feat though (for rangers consumed by hatred) so only neutral or evil rangers can take it.
Nemesis is an exalted feat (goes with feats like Vow of Poverty, or Vow of Chastity): it'll basically allow you to detect one of your favored enemies within 60 feat, the same way a Paladin can detect evil, in addition to the extra damage. You couldn't take that at the same time you took a vile feat though, unless you were neutral.
>>75707
Speaking of alignment-based restrictions: What alignment is the easiest to follow through without accidentally fucking up?
Speaking of alignment-based restrictions: What alignment is the easiest to follow through without accidentally fucking up?
>>75709
Notihng. Not sure if GM is even here. I have a little smut to entretain anyone bored enough to read it. Home-cooked, so expect some errors.
Notihng. Not sure if GM is even here. I have a little smut to entretain anyone bored enough to read it. Home-cooked, so expect some errors.
>>75708
Neutral, probably.
"Fucking up" isn't as easy as it sounds, when it comes to alignment, so long as you're consistently in character, you're probably remaining true to your alignment.
See, I play Sister Ash as Neutral Good. I try to keep her intentions genuine, and try not to make her perform any acts that may seem needlessly malevolent. She follows reasonable laws out of courtesy and politeness, but she doesn't regard the laws of ponies as any sort of binding authority that comes close to the righteousness of morality, so she may act independently of good.
Were I to suddenly make her needlessly greedy, malevolent or sadistic for no real reason, that would constitute as "fucking up", because it's not in-line with her sense of morality thus far.
As a Druid, I can only be Nuetral, Neutral Good, Lawful Neutral, Chaotic Neutral, or Neutral Evil. If I switched to a prohibited alignment, I would lose my class abilities.
Being Neutral Good also means that there are some spells on my list that I cannot cast. I cannot summon Salamanders, since they are Evil Creatures, and thus conjuring them is an evil act. I cannot cast Contagion since that's a spell with the Evil subtype in its descriptor. Sister Ash may never cast Spells that create or control undead, even if she gained them through special feats or other classes.
I cannot take Feats such as Child of Winter or Nightbringer's initiate, since those feats require the character to be non-good.
If I had the Planar Shepard prestige class, I may not dedicate myself to any plane that was even mildly evil aligned.
Fighters have no alignment based restrictions that I can think of, unless you're thinking of a particular prestige class. Divine casters are the main classes to have alignment restrictions, since their power comes from their religion. If you have certain feats or prestige classes that have alignment based restrictions, those may be a thing, but I don't know about them.
Neutral, probably.
"Fucking up" isn't as easy as it sounds, when it comes to alignment, so long as you're consistently in character, you're probably remaining true to your alignment.
See, I play Sister Ash as Neutral Good. I try to keep her intentions genuine, and try not to make her perform any acts that may seem needlessly malevolent. She follows reasonable laws out of courtesy and politeness, but she doesn't regard the laws of ponies as any sort of binding authority that comes close to the righteousness of morality, so she may act independently of good.
Were I to suddenly make her needlessly greedy, malevolent or sadistic for no real reason, that would constitute as "fucking up", because it's not in-line with her sense of morality thus far.
As a Druid, I can only be Nuetral, Neutral Good, Lawful Neutral, Chaotic Neutral, or Neutral Evil. If I switched to a prohibited alignment, I would lose my class abilities.
Being Neutral Good also means that there are some spells on my list that I cannot cast. I cannot summon Salamanders, since they are Evil Creatures, and thus conjuring them is an evil act. I cannot cast Contagion since that's a spell with the Evil subtype in its descriptor. Sister Ash may never cast Spells that create or control undead, even if she gained them through special feats or other classes.
I cannot take Feats such as Child of Winter or Nightbringer's initiate, since those feats require the character to be non-good.
If I had the Planar Shepard prestige class, I may not dedicate myself to any plane that was even mildly evil aligned.
Fighters have no alignment based restrictions that I can think of, unless you're thinking of a particular prestige class. Divine casters are the main classes to have alignment restrictions, since their power comes from their religion. If you have certain feats or prestige classes that have alignment based restrictions, those may be a thing, but I don't know about them.
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