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Experimental Nuts
HBIlF
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No.50370
50376 50377
This thread begins with Tracy and Trump stuck in a curious sort of trap, their only hope of escape being Infernius who is operating a control panel with around 40 buttons, only one of which will set them free and most of which result in some form of torture or death. The buttons bear the same obscure script as elsewhere which Infernius couldn't read even if it was comprehensible.
Welcome back to the Nuts RP thread, where we're about to go Saw on 2 of the party members!
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Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50575
50578
Arrrrrrg!
http://awakenvideo.org/pdf/DnD%203.5e%20and%20you%20are%20welcome/DnD%20DM%203.5e%20Essentials---Dungeons%20and%20Dragons%20Dungeon%20Master%203.5%20Essentials/books/?C=M;O=A
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50576
50578
http://awakenvideo.org/pdf/DnD%203.5e%20and%20you%20are%20welcome/DnD%20DM%203.5e%20Essentials---Dungeons%20and%20Dragons%20Dungeon%20Master%203.5%20Essentials/books/
Anonymous
t6+XU
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No.50578
50581
>>50575
>>50576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdi-CMwSXlQ
inb4 GM kills Torc for this
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50579
50580 50594
It's not worth trying to get a set of ligfht armor is it? Is there anything she could get quickly that would provide more protection than her bracers?
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50580
>>50579
Actually, I forgot about that Darkness abjuration. That's be as good as any set.
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50581
50583 50613
>>50574
Yep
>>50578
Well look a that, Torcuil dies of something horrible that dissolves him from the inside, and wakes up in the entertron
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50582
... again
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50583
50584
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>>50581
And 5 regular wraiths, right?
I'm trying to figure out what Tracy and Trump's ECL would've been when only two party members were present, but this math is complicated...
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50584
50585
>>50583
4
Calculating exp is my absolute least favorite aspect of 3.5
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50585
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>>50584
I've calculated 956 for the dread wraiths so far..
Now I'm trying to factor in circumstances, with the environment, and the wall trap...
I'm doing this too see how much I'm willing to sacrifice for permanent spells and how much I wanna save to lvl up..
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50586
50587 50589
That's most of the reason I haven't bothered calculating it desu
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50587
50588
Spoilered
>>50586
Oh, well I guess I won't pry then.
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50588
>>50587
I just mean, if I can figure it to a ballpark (typically that favors the characters) I will, just cuz by the time I'm close I don't fucking care anymore.
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50589
50590 50594
>>50586
Well, if I may ask just one question: If I spend 2000-5000 XP on a permanent spell now, will that affect when she levels up?
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50590
50592
>>50589
>will losing experience affect when Tracy levels up?
Seriously?
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50591
Please don't misunderstand, I'm not bothered by the subject nor being sarcastic at you/Trcy. The part I don't like about XP is entirely the cumbersome calulations n shit, for a number that is far more detailed than it needs to be.
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50592
50593 50595
>>50590
I meant more-so on a month-to-month scale: as in, would she have to wait several weeks before she made the difference?
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50593
>>50592
I doubt it, not significantly.
Anonymous
XkZRy
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No.50594
50596 50598
>>50579
Mythril breastplate provides +5 AC before and magical expenditure, and you can add enchantments like Shadow that give a +10 on hide checks, for example

>>50589
That would send you back a level
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50595
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>>50592
>far more detailed than it needs to be
Ikr.
I guess they expected nerds to fight over this kind of stuff, so they made the SRD rules especially meticulous..
I'm fine with the way things are going. I was mostly just trying it once to get a ballpark range of how much she can earn per encounter.
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50596
50597
>>50594
The armor of Darkness seems best for her, desu. Worth the XP.
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50597
50598
>>50596
That's not a real armor. That's a spell that last a few minutes
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50598
50599
>>50594
Nah, it wouldn't. I crunched the numbers.
>>50597
GM said she could make it permanent.
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50599
50600
>>50598
It would absolutely send her back a level
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50600
50601 50602
>>50599
4th lvl spells cost 2000 XP on the permanency table she earned that much in the dungeon from fighting monsters alone these past 2 crawls.
I doubt the undead attack was a clean lvl up either: pretty sure it put them over a few thousand points, when factoring circumstantial stuff.
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50601
50603 50604
>>50600
First off, there is no "fourth level spell permanency cost." An equivalent to the shadow armor should cost 5000xp minimum depending on the exact effects. Second, while numbers vary, the amount of xp earned could be less than 1000
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50602
50603
>>50600
>Circumstantial stuff
Like the fact that we have ebin weapons and the fact that there's supposed to be a 50%
miss chance on incorporeal creatures
? That should knock down the xp quite a bit
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50603
50605 50607
>>50601
If you look at the canon-permanent spells: all of the 4th lvl spells cost 2000 while the 5th lvl cost 2500.
Also, GM already said after the mummy fight that it would've been enough to cast a permanent spell without penalty.
>>50602
Why are you so insistent on getting less XP? It really shouldn't concern you.
When I say circumstantial stuff, I mean traps they encountered, and presence of party members. The difference is abysmal anyway and I was just looking into it to learn more about the game.
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50604
50605
>>50601
Also, your equipment doesn't affect the XP you earn. That'd be gay.
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50605
50608
>>50603
Yeah, it's enough to cast the cheapest of the spells

Not all 4th level spells are alike. The shadow whatever gives darkvision. That alone cost 1000 xp for a permanency. And what is the bonus of this supposed to be? Just the equivalent cost of xp for crafting armor enchantments costs thousands, besides crafting time and high material costs. And then it does other things too. Judging the cost based on the effects it should be very expensive

>>50604
And neither do "circumstances" increase xp, which was my point
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50606
50615 50620
GM curls up in the corner and cries
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50607
>>50603
Just get a set of mithril breastplate. It's +5, only a single point of armor check penalty, and you can add all sorts of shit to it
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50608
50609
>>50605
Tbh, m8. I don't take answers on meta-issues from you. Can you just stop arguing about everything for once?
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50609
50610
>>50608
No, and if you're going to talk about meta shit constantly, so am I
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50610
50611
>>50609
Do YOU seriously want to get into a discussion about armors?
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50611
50612
>>50610
You can stack armor bonuses too. Take a +8 armor and Diane Fienstien's +4 bracers
Mrs. Sentry
DsWW2
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No.50612
50614
>>50611
You explicitly cannot effect bonus with armor-suit bonus as per the rules normally go.
Besides, I want the spoopy darkness armor, because it sounds awesome for a blackguard-rogue.
Anonymous
t6+XU
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No.50613
>>50581
I figured
Anonymous
YxBc0
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No.50614
50621
>>50612
Yeah no shit, and I don't want permanency abused in such a way
Anonymous
t6+XU
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No.50615
>>50606
>pats GM on the back
Shhh, it'll all be okay
Anonymous
mBKbx
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No.50618
Ben
Anonymous
HBIlF
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No.50619
50620
GM emits a long and beleaguered sigh
Anonymous
fEg1h
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No.50620
>>50606
>>50619
Shhh shhh, your Fhürer is here.
Anonymous
fEg1h
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No.50621
50622
>>50614
Why do you do this everytime? Do you get something out of it?
Anonymous
XkZRy
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No.50622
50623
>>50621
Yes. Because fuck that guy
Anonymous
fEg1h
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No.50623
50624
>>50622
Why?
Anonymous
XkZRy
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No.50624
50625 50626
>>50623
It's many factors at ounce. He literally joined the game originally just to troll me because he took some silly GET joke deeply personally and followed me around on the board for several months because of it. The biggest issue is that his entire way of approaching the game is to try to cheat every way he can - every way, all the time, constantly, relentlessly, whether it's misremembering his stats or making shit up or taking advantage of generosity - which makes the game less fun because it removes challenge (the source of fun) and makes it harder to compete for glory of killing or accomplishing things. And then he steam rolls constantly, taking his turn before its his turn, and advancing time in the game which can leave all of us behind. Then sometimes he attacks other characters - especially mine - in game, often making use of these unearned advantages. And he's playing an lol evil character in a campaign of good aligned characters, which causes conflict. And he wants to substitute actual personality with spoopy clothes and powers, which is insulting to the OC the character is supposed to be based on. He selectively rules lawyers when it's in his advantages and disregards when it isn't.

All of this would be fine if he weren't a sociopath with no social awareness. He is unapologetic period, he never seems to care about how his steamrolling harms others, and he doesn't care if he is liked
Anonymous
fEg1h
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No.50625
50627
>>50624
Then why were you sad when he left?
Anonymous
mBKbx
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No.50626
50629
>>50624
>he never seems to care about how his steamrolling harms others, and he doesn't care if he is liked
Fuck censorship. I won't stand for that one.
I try my hardest every session to make a good character and come up with new ideas to make The Game more fun for all of the PCs. Maybe it's autistic, but I never, even once tried to make The Game less fun.
You're the one who's always acting like an antagonistic, tyranical sourpuss, acting like he's in charge of the rules, and constantly picking fights about meta; banning PCs and deleting posts when things don't go your way. It's tiring, obnoxious, and generally unpleasant to everyone.
>Causes conflict
It doesn't have to. You are the only one who has a chronic issue with it. It was said from the get-go that we could pick any alignment we wanted.
>Selectively rules-lawyers
You do that more than anyone, faggot. I never complain about it, so why can't you just shut up?
It's not your place to enforce the rules of the game.
Anonymous
XkZRy
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No.50627
50628 50630
Spoilered
>>50625
Because what I really want is some sort of personal warmth from him, and it makes me very sad and angry that I never get it...