This thread begins with Tracy and Trump stuck in a curious sort of trap, their only hope of escape being Infernius who is operating a control panel with around 40 buttons, only one of which will set them free and most of which result in some form of torture or death. The buttons bear the same obscure script as elsewhere which Infernius couldn't read even if it was comprehensible.
Welcome back to the Nuts RP thread, where we're about to go Saw on 2 of the party members!
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>>50830You missed the State of the Union event
>>50833I was there, I was just withholding my shitposts...
>>50830I gotta find a way to increase Tracy's Charisma too, desu..
>>50835Reeee I need the charisma!
That's what happens when you multi class into classes that are radically different from each other. You find you need too many diverse abilities
>>50836Well, when I first took the class, I for some reason thought her Char and Wis were 13 each..
>radically differentNot much, really. Rogues use their charisma quite a bit with their skills (diplomacy, Use magick device, disguise, bluff, Gather Information, Intimidate). Blackguards get Sneak Attack too, and I've been using her BG spells to produce her Darkness Kunai.
It also opens up the potential for all sorts of ebil story thematics.
What are your stats, anyway?
>>50837Use Magick device is my favorite. With a good check, a rogue/assassin/bard can use any weapon.
>>50837>Wants charisma for skill checksTrumpaladin has a Circlet of Persuasion that provides a +3 to charisma based checks, in the chance you ever want to trade
Trumpaladin's highest score is his charisma, which was 16 when the game started, then I raised it to 18 with the allotted ability points. The armor adds +3 to make 21, and I'll probably need to add his gained ability points to charisma as well to ensure he's at where he needs to be for level 21. My entire epic level advancement plan for him depends on him getting to 25 Charisma.
Strength is... in question. It started at 13, and then I raised it to 14 with ability score increases. The ion stone adds +2, so it's at least 16. I thought it was 20, and was upset when that was in question. But I didn't really know how magical bonuses worked on swords, so now I don't care as much. Trumpaladin is basically a glorified Fighter, and virtually all of his damage is done by means of melee combat, so strength really should be the most important ability.
Trumpaladin was extremely fortunate to start off with 14 wisdom, which coincidentally is the ability score he needs to cast every level of spell he has. I got the Periphat, which Gm seemed fine to rate as +4, I think originally as a gift for Tracy. But it really helps him because the Paladin spell set is pitiful (it's a glorified fighter class) so the added spells from the extra wisdom really helps. I also like the benefits to will saving throws and to skills like sense motive.
For some reason he has a curiously high Intelligence score, at 13, which it also frustrating because it's an odd number. I've thought about giving his extra ability point to intelligence so he could get the extra skill point per level gained, but it's probably better in charisma or strength.
Con is 12, and dexterity is 11. I hate the odd number on dexterity, but now that he has a set of half-plate armor (which allows an AC bonus from dexterity of 0) that has enchantments too high to not use, I don't think that ability will be evened out. I like to make fun of how non-dexterous he is, like the sleight of hand checks earlier with a -8 (armor penalty) modifier to it
>>50839Aww.. Tracy's stat total rolled-up 3 points lower.
Tracy has 16 strength, although she never really uses it now because Weapon finesse. Her Constitution is 11
(really hoping to get that Gaunt deformity), as well as her Charisma. Her Wis is an abysmal 9, which kind of sucks, because it means she takes penalty on perception checks. Her Dex is 19: I allocated every point into that before I knew what the stats even did; I don't really regret it at all though. Her int, as I recall, is 13.
>>50840... Perhaps.. I might be mistaken...
>>50840I definitely remember her strength as 13Remember that when a character attains level 16, they gain an ability point, so she has another you can distribute. You could probably also get GM to let you move the 19th Dexterity point to somewhere else
We've been building up our characters in different ways, I've noticed. you mostly want to create the perfect Assassin, able to get in and kill a single target, get out, but above all else,
make damn sure that target is dead. I've been operating on the theory that Combat is a numbers game, dependent on five statistics more so than any other - Combined attack bonus, Armor Class, Damage, Hit Points, and the Fortitude saving roll bonus - so most of my advancement of him has focused on those five stats, or on the only set of skills he has any aptitude at (and that I want to roll play), persuasiveness. He's almost immobile when not riding because of how damned heavy the armor is. But I want to roleplay as heavy calvary anyways and Paladin's have awesome mounts
>>50839>Circlet of PersuasionNah. Tracy already has her head slot full with her Headband of Intellect, and I don't like the image of having to spend a move action to put on a magick tiara before rolling a crucial bluff check.
>>50842The circlet adds more to skill checks than the charm does, and the cloak of resistance adds more to saving throws than the cloak of charisma does. The headband only helps with arcane spells, which she only has a single level in anyways
I really, really, really, really need that +2 charisma before level 21. I'm hoping for a tome, but if not, will trade>>50842WHY DO I KEEP POSTING ITALICS WHEN I MEAN TO SPOILER
>>50844>The circlet adds more to skill checks than the charm does, and the cloak of resistance adds more to saving throws than the cloak of charismaI already made the cloak, so I never thought of getting another.
I wasn't exactly thinking of optimization back then. I just wanted an awesome weapon that moved on its own and gear that matched the aesthetics I was looking for.
>>50733Your back!
and thanks for the pdf ive been looking for it for awhile.
*hugs pony*
>>50735*boops thez*
>pic related >>50734Everyone is now a pony, except tracy shes a hooman now.
Torc is the colt version of Leslie faire. So to speak.
>>50849"Thez you still love me right?"
>>50848Torc wakes up in the middle of the kitchen floor
"Huh, wha? Why am I a pony now?"
Torc then worders if he polymorphed himself while sleeping, as Mr. Snek slithers in and looks about as suprised as a snek can look
Tracy pets the trumpony in her lap as he sleeps. She's well aware that she's been morphed into a hoo-man, but it's not the first time she's been exposed to this breed of autism.
>>50853Torc doesn't have the feat for that, sorry
>>50856"Call me that one more time and I'll consider it a violation of my NAP. In the mean time, did you do this?"
>>50852Give her arcane sight too while you're at it. That way, she'll automatically be able to tell if NPCs are carrying magick items before she decides to rob them, and she'll be able to see the magick aura of a trap even if she fails to see the trap itself. Well worth the extra XP.
>>50856I like the idea of a green, kilt-pattern pony with a beard and bagpipes strapped to him better, desu.
>>50858Only if you promise not to rob anyone who is European in port barry.
>>50857"Kek me did its hilarious."
>>50860"How do you expect me to use
THOSE?"
Torc gestures a hoof toward the pile of his items laying in his robe.
>>50858*black and yellow kilt pattern
>>50859Oh, Torc could do that
>>50860Eh, if the guys at Port Barry had anything worth stealing, Tracy at least would've had a chance by now.
Sure, Tracy won't bother them.
Travelers a good distance from the Port (horizon limit) are fair game for robbery though, although that'll probably never happen.
>>50861>How do you expect me to use THOSE?[disgruntled mudpony noises]
"You'll get used to it eventually, mageboi. Life without magick isn't impossible."
>>50862"life with out mag-
I'm a SORCERER"
He then sits down and trys to REEEE angrily, but he fails cause he's a colt
>>50863*laughs in Minotuar-pony*
>>50862>travelersReee that's precisely the group I was planning on shifting focus to. Like the Knights hospitalar who protected pilgrims going to and from Jerusalem
Trumpony wakes up one size class smaller than he was when he fell asleep. He finds that he's laying in the lap of a pale, silver-haired woman clad in a beautiful black dress. She peeks down at him with her bright, jaded eyes, feeling he's woken up; and she smiles affectionately.
"Good morning, Flashy." she says calmly
"You're looking awfully cute this morning."
>>50867>low-level NPCsI mean NPCs like Aristocrats and Experts in cities. Ones that look like they'd have deep pockets.
I maxed-out Sleight Of Hand, and I'm not going to miss-out on pick-pocketing in this game.
Besides, there's many other benefits to being able to see magick.
>>50868*jumps right the fuck out of strange lady's lap*
>>50873"And you, you're looking fine this morning as well"
>>50839>I'll probably need to add his gained ability points to charisma as well to ensure he's at where he needs to be for level 21.What's so special about lvl 21 though?
>>50842>you mostly want to create the perfect AssassinTbh, I kind of considered going for Duelist after reaching lvl 5 Blackguard. Sure, she'd miss out on stealth, but I really want that Acrobatic Charge: she can make spirited charges and ride-by attacks with her shoes, so she'd be incredible if she could charge in any circumstance. Will probably take a lvl in Assassin first though, so she can cast Invisibility. I put ranks into perform really early on, so that Shadow Dancer and Duelist would always be on the table.
Of course, that's thinking
really far ahead in the future...
*Tracy, looking somewhat crestfallen, takes advantage of this spare time to
finally finish her Mobility training, although she appears somewhat clumsy as she waddles off to the holodeck by herself*
>>50875It takes a lot longer than that to get an entire feat. It's supposed to take three levels of progression
>>50876GM said a week, and I've been trying to do it for a long time now.
>>50872"I've had a perfectly delightful morning, but it isn't this one"
>>50876So you get a feat every 3 levels?
>>50877Yeah, a week
devoted to it, where the character isn't spending 10 hours a day doing other things. It hasn't been much time at all in game
>>50878Yes, plus one at the first level. Humans have an additional feat at the first level as a racial quality
>>50875>Level 21It's the first level you can obtain epic feats
>>50881Yea you have to be over lvl 20 to get em.
>>50881Which ebin feats?
I've got my eye on Sneak Attack Of Opportunity, Lingering Damage, and Blinding Speed (if I could get her Dex high enough).
>>50883Level 21, Epic Leadership. Level 24 or 23, Great Smite (doubles Smite damage, which would be 40 per smite if he multi-classes and higher if he doesn't) and is a prerequisite for Divine Emissary. If he can get a bonus feat, then probably Epic Weapon Focus or Epic Toughness. Level 27 is where the true fun begins - Legendary Commandership, although I have to limit his multiclassing options to casses with diplomacy as a class skill for that to work out