So Tracy has been soaked in the blessings of pure Elway, on his hallowed ground of Mile High. Some weird tentacular thing came out of herdon't even look at me, this was pure player RP, but it was exquisite, so who am I to argue? and is dissolving into the turf, while Trump and Fae and several of the Generals eagerly anticipate the result of their careful and brilliant maneuver.
If you're just joining us, I can simplify these threads really simply: Its a text-based RPG based loosely on D&D 3.5ed, except there's a shitposter in place of the computer. Feel free to interact, as you will. whether for conversation/bantz ("Random passerby says: You're a faggot.") or whatever.
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>>44157
>where the hell does the +19 on the strength score come from?
Minotaurs have a +8 racial Str Modifier, on top of Monstrous Humanoid traits and a couple extraordinary abilities.
https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/SRD:Minotaur
>players who are multi-classing are supposed to take experience penalties
That only applies to base classes, not prestige classes.
>where the hell does the +19 on the strength score come from?
Minotaurs have a +8 racial Str Modifier, on top of Monstrous Humanoid traits and a couple extraordinary abilities.
https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/SRD:Minotaur
>players who are multi-classing are supposed to take experience penalties
That only applies to base classes, not prestige classes.
>>44157
Hey, don't drag me into this. I only teleport to travel during meta time.
>Sorcerers are supposed to have a set and limited...
I don't have things like +35 roll bonuses and shit unlike you guys, give me this
Hey, don't drag me into this. I only teleport to travel during meta time.
>Sorcerers are supposed to have a set and limited...
I don't have things like +35 roll bonuses and shit unlike you guys, give me this
>>44160
Wilder is not a prestige class
>minotaurs have a whatever bonus
GM said Infernius was a half-orc for racial purposes, and if yoy get that kind of base bonus then that is unfair haxx. Let me be a half-celestial if you're going to pull that bullshit
Wilder is not a prestige class
>minotaurs have a whatever bonus
GM said Infernius was a half-orc for racial purposes, and if yoy get that kind of base bonus then that is unfair haxx. Let me be a half-celestial if you're going to pull that bullshit
>>44164
Good point.
The XP system is kind of fugged though. Di you really want to quantify how much XP each and every skeleton whoever killed is worth?
Good point.
The XP system is kind of fugged though. Di you really want to quantify how much XP each and every skeleton whoever killed is worth?
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>>44170
If Tracy spends 2000 XP on a lvl 4 permanent Abjuration, would that send her back a level?
I want that Armor of Darkness.
If Tracy spends 2000 XP on a lvl 4 permanent Abjuration, would that send her back a level?
I want that Armor of Darkness.
>>44172
What Griffon?
>>44167
>Do you really want to quantify how much XP each and every skeleton whoever killed is worth?
My point was that if we are going to deviate from the rules in places where the rules are stupid, the "enchantment bonuses don't stack" rule is as good a rule to deviate from as "multi-classer's take penalties," especially since not allowing enchantment bonuses to stack would make spells like Bull's strength pointless once you already have a belt of strength or a cloak of charisma. After all, wouldn't you rather Tracy be able to take multiple enchantment bonuses?
Also,
>Math
Don't tempt me. I love the mathematized combat system, and I may start doing the same to xp if I can find a table
>>44176
Yes
What Griffon?
>>44167
>Do you really want to quantify how much XP each and every skeleton whoever killed is worth?
My point was that if we are going to deviate from the rules in places where the rules are stupid, the "enchantment bonuses don't stack" rule is as good a rule to deviate from as "multi-classer's take penalties," especially since not allowing enchantment bonuses to stack would make spells like Bull's strength pointless once you already have a belt of strength or a cloak of charisma. After all, wouldn't you rather Tracy be able to take multiple enchantment bonuses?
Also,
>Math
Don't tempt me. I love the mathematized combat system, and I may start doing the same to xp if I can find a table
>>44176
Yes
>>44181
What does it do though.
What does it do though.
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>>44180
lvl 4 Darkness domain abjuration: cloaks the wearer in a shadowy armor or dressing that gives them a deflection boost to AC. The shadows bend around the wearers body at will.
https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/SRD:Armor_of_Darkness
lvl 4 Darkness domain abjuration: cloaks the wearer in a shadowy armor or dressing that gives them a deflection boost to AC. The shadows bend around the wearers body at will.
https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/SRD:Armor_of_Darkness
>>44177
I never really ever get caught up in that much math, optimization or statistical stuff, desu. I just keep trying to get moar of whatever I can get and hope it helps me later on.
I never really ever get caught up in that much math, optimization or statistical stuff, desu. I just keep trying to get moar of whatever I can get and hope it helps me later on.
>>44188
>I just keep trying to get moar of whatever I can get
I've noticed. You ask for at least two new things every day. Actually being given things doesn't sate you or alter your pattern of asking for gibs either. Like the Zombies in Max brook's books
>I just keep trying to get moar of whatever I can get
I've noticed. You ask for at least two new things every day. Actually being given things doesn't sate you or alter your pattern of asking for gibs either. Like the Zombies in Max brook's books
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>>44198
I don't have anyone to murder or steal from, so I dig up everything I can possibly get right here.
>>44199
She'd greatly appreciate it.
Making it permanent would be another matter though, because we can't just make Torc pay the XP.
>>44201
Miracle can duplicate any spell of 7th level or lower. It's better than Wish in that regard.
I don't have anyone to murder or steal from, so I dig up everything I can possibly get right here.
>>44199
She'd greatly appreciate it.
Making it permanent would be another matter though, because we can't just make Torc pay the XP.
>>44201
Miracle can duplicate any spell of 7th level or lower. It's better than Wish in that regard.
>>44204
Only the uber-powerful affects cost XP, the spell-duplication doesn't.
https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/SRD:Miracle
Only the uber-powerful affects cost XP, the spell-duplication doesn't.
https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/SRD:Miracle
>>44204
Armor of darkness isn't an armor, it's a short lived defensive spell. Are you going to allow Dispel Evil or Death Ward or Holy Sword to be permanent enchantments as well, since they are almost perfectly equivalent 4th level abjuration spells?
Armor of darkness isn't an armor, it's a short lived defensive spell. Are you going to allow Dispel Evil or Death Ward or Holy Sword to be permanent enchantments as well, since they are almost perfectly equivalent 4th level abjuration spells?
>>44207
Holy Sword is a transmutation though, not an abjuration.
It's a great spell for a lvl 4 though, especially if you're not fortunate enough to have a magick weapon. I'm surprised you don't cast it more often.
>tfw no ebil equivalent
Holy Sword is a transmutation though, not an abjuration.
It's a great spell for a lvl 4 though, especially if you're not fortunate enough to have a magick weapon. I'm surprised you don't cast it more often.
>tfw no ebil equivalent
>>44209
I think there's a reason the original permanency list limited the number of possible spells to a small number. There is a never ending set of possible abjuration and what have you spells to make permanent.
I think there's a reason the original permanency list limited the number of possible spells to a small number. There is a never ending set of possible abjuration and what have you spells to make permanent.
>>44211
>There is a never ending set of possible abjuration and what have you spells to make permanent.
Just do it on a case-by-case basis then. I don't see why a campaign should only be limited to what the game makers decided on.
>There is a never ending set of possible abjuration and what have you spells to make permanent.
Just do it on a case-by-case basis then. I don't see why a campaign should only be limited to what the game makers decided on.
>>44211
I'm sure there was, but what fun would that be? I'm not going to let it just be cast and made permanent like that, anymore than Tracy can 'just' make a pair of Wolf boots.
I'm sure there was, but what fun would that be? I'm not going to let it just be cast and made permanent like that, anymore than Tracy can 'just' make a pair of Wolf boots.
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I g2g for an hour.
>>44215
You'll find a way, I have faith in you. But it would only be the first of God knows how many dozens of other permanency abjurations
You'll find a way, I have faith in you. But it would only be the first of God knows how many dozens of other permanency abjurations
>>44219
You won't abuse it, but... Uh... I don't know, wouldn't you rather have a different abjuration that isn't based on darkness?
You won't abuse it, but... Uh... I don't know, wouldn't you rather have a different abjuration that isn't based on darkness?
Its a really cool idea, but idk,... it would give Tracy auto-concealment, which means auto sneak attacks
Nevermind, it only conceals features (as with a cloak) but not their person (so no sneak attacks). I can tell its for higher-level campaigns because it caps out at 41st level. I'm gonna say as a quest-augment, I'll probably allow it.
>>44225
Now that is OP. It's a level 4 only relative to sorcerers, it's higher level for every other class
Now that is OP. It's a level 4 only relative to sorcerers, it's higher level for every other class
>>44226
Dude, why do you keep policing what everyone else wants instead of looking for stuff for yourself?
Dude, why do you keep policing what everyone else wants instead of looking for stuff for yourself?
>>44228
The shit I ask for gets denied anyways
As you said, (you) are a thief and will take everything, which you do, and you take it from us
The shit I ask for gets denied anyways
As you said, (you) are a thief and will take everything, which you do, and you take it from us
>>44229
>you take it from us
When was the last time she did that?
The most she's even taken recently was the Orb of Storms. You've had first pic out of most other things since then.
>you take it from us
When was the last time she did that?
The most she's even taken recently was the Orb of Storms. You've had first pic out of most other things since then.
>>44231
You've done it before. Besides, you've changed these threads into "GM can tracy craft x" rather than actual role play and encounters. Rather than trying to play home-shopping-network and just collect things for the sake of collecting things, or try to make characters perfectly invincible so there is either no challenge at all or too much challenge when we need to face invincible opponents, try to optimize, be practical, and above all be reasonable in items
You've done it before. Besides, you've changed these threads into "GM can tracy craft x" rather than actual role play and encounters. Rather than trying to play home-shopping-network and just collect things for the sake of collecting things, or try to make characters perfectly invincible so there is either no challenge at all or too much challenge when we need to face invincible opponents, try to optimize, be practical, and above all be reasonable in items
>>44232
>rather than actual role play and encounters
I've participated in almost every encounter, wtf?
>trying to play home-shopping-network
Eh, I guess that's not far from the truth...
I just like looting things and using cool doodads. That's why I picked Rogue.
>rather than actual role play and encounters
I've participated in almost every encounter, wtf?
>trying to play home-shopping-network
Eh, I guess that's not far from the truth...
I just like looting things and using cool doodads. That's why I picked Rogue.
>>44234
>I've participated in almost every encounter, wtf?
Yes, but the number of "GM can Tracy get x magical enchantment, craft y item, or get le ebin z super power item for free" posts in these threads outnumber the number of roleplay and encounter posts.
>I just like looting things and using cool doodads.
Okay, let's loot the Pyramid when we get the chance
>I've participated in almost every encounter, wtf?
Yes, but the number of "GM can Tracy get x magical enchantment, craft y item, or get le ebin z super power item for free" posts in these threads outnumber the number of roleplay and encounter posts.
>I just like looting things and using cool doodads.
Okay, let's loot the Pyramid when we get the chance
>>44235
>outnumber the number of roleplay and encounter posts
True, but that's just what I do while The Game isn't in session.
>outnumber the number of roleplay and encounter posts
True, but that's just what I do while The Game isn't in session.
>>44236
I mean, we play 2-3 days a week, the rest is just meta shitposting, so I guess the shitposting might be somewhat disproportionate..
I mean, we play 2-3 days a week, the rest is just meta shitposting, so I guess the shitposting might be somewhat disproportionate..
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I'll be away for the next hour
>tfw
>tfw
>>44236
I've noticed. But you still claim warehouses full of items from it, or forget about items. We all have items that we've recieved and forgotten about. I have abilities and items I forgot about, GM has forgotten about items, Torcuil has absolutely forgotten about items. It's barely about characters anymore, just items and abjurations and spells and haxx and so forth it feels like.
Remember when you killed three - three! - giants with nothing more than two daggers, a simple mud pony, a desire to stab and a waifu toss from an ally? That doesn't happen anymore. It's all "try to figure out x magical whatever/find the item we've got for this" and the creativity is lost. For example, balance, jumping, climbing, and swimming are all skills, even class skills, for many characters. Just figuring out how to cross a canyon can be a challenge - a fun challenge. Platform games like Uncharted are in substantial part about mundane and simple challenges like this. But when your character can just fly - and can only fly because begged for haxx - the fun of mundane challenges is gone.
I've noticed. But you still claim warehouses full of items from it, or forget about items. We all have items that we've recieved and forgotten about. I have abilities and items I forgot about, GM has forgotten about items, Torcuil has absolutely forgotten about items. It's barely about characters anymore, just items and abjurations and spells and haxx and so forth it feels like.
Remember when you killed three - three! - giants with nothing more than two daggers, a simple mud pony, a desire to stab and a waifu toss from an ally? That doesn't happen anymore. It's all "try to figure out x magical whatever/find the item we've got for this" and the creativity is lost. For example, balance, jumping, climbing, and swimming are all skills, even class skills, for many characters. Just figuring out how to cross a canyon can be a challenge - a fun challenge. Platform games like Uncharted are in substantial part about mundane and simple challenges like this. But when your character can just fly - and can only fly because begged for haxx - the fun of mundane challenges is gone.
>>44243
>or forget about items.
Which ones? I have a list of everything she's in possession of.
>creativity is lost
Good point...
Good times...
>or forget about items.
Which ones? I have a list of everything she's in possession of.
>creativity is lost
Good point...
Good times...
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>>44243
>mundane challenges
I still haven't picked a single lock or detected any deadly traps, now that I think of it.
>mundane challenges
I still haven't picked a single lock or detected any deadly traps, now that I think of it.
>>44245
>Which ones? I have a list of everything she's in possession of
I didn't accuse you of losing track of items. But I am absolutely certain that I have lost track, and Torcuil has lost track, and GM has lost track. And I know we have things we have never used
>All the characters can fly though
And... you've perfectly missed my point. There's almost an entire level in Uncharted 3 devoted to swimming through a ship-graveyard, and climbing through the wreckage of ruined oil tankers and container ships trying to find places to climb and jumping between steel beams, all the while being challenged and shot at by pirates. Thanks to the proliferation of haxx and items and spells, I will never have as much fun trying to do the same in this RPG as I could in that video game. But frankly, that was just an example. I could go down a long list of ways haxx kills fun.
Also, if my character has to hitch a ride in order to avoid falling to death, so can yours
>>44247
That's the spirit!
>Which ones? I have a list of everything she's in possession of
I didn't accuse you of losing track of items. But I am absolutely certain that I have lost track, and Torcuil has lost track, and GM has lost track. And I know we have things we have never used
>All the characters can fly though
And... you've perfectly missed my point. There's almost an entire level in Uncharted 3 devoted to swimming through a ship-graveyard, and climbing through the wreckage of ruined oil tankers and container ships trying to find places to climb and jumping between steel beams, all the while being challenged and shot at by pirates. Thanks to the proliferation of haxx and items and spells, I will never have as much fun trying to do the same in this RPG as I could in that video game. But frankly, that was just an example. I could go down a long list of ways haxx kills fun.
Also, if my character has to hitch a ride in order to avoid falling to death, so can yours
>>44247
That's the spirit!
>>44249
Again, my point is that the game is more fun as an action-adventure RPG than as a home-shopping net work game
Again, my point is that the game is more fun as an action-adventure RPG than as a home-shopping net work game
>>44253
I want to flank and lay of hands attack Hillary Clinton first though. But I'm sure she'll end up with them eventually. But I would like the charm and the cloak, for at least part time use. I really, really want the Epic Leadership feat, and the Great Smiting feat is a prerequisite for the Divine Emissary class. Both require 25 charisma, which my character is 7 points away from. Also I'm jealous of six gorrillion hit point sneak attack damage
I want to flank and lay of hands attack Hillary Clinton first though. But I'm sure she'll end up with them eventually. But I would like the charm and the cloak, for at least part time use. I really, really want the Epic Leadership feat, and the Great Smiting feat is a prerequisite for the Divine Emissary class. Both require 25 charisma, which my character is 7 points away from. Also I'm jealous of six gorrillion hit point sneak attack damage
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>>44254
>flank and lay of hands attack Hillary Clinton
You can move 30 ft in one round, can't you. Would be a great finisher thought. Would love to see it.
>Epic Leadership feat, and the Great Smiting feat is a prerequisite for the Divine Emissary class.
Yeah, I noticed 3.5e has a whole lot of impractical classes, monsters, items and ebin spells made for unbalanced campaigns of epic level. After looking at the books they came out of, I think they're mostly for experienced players and DMs who just make up their own rules so they can play legendary heroes.
>I'm jealous of six gorrillion hit point sneak attack damage
Walk the path of the Blackguard with me.
>flank and lay of hands attack Hillary Clinton
You can move 30 ft in one round, can't you. Would be a great finisher thought. Would love to see it.
>Epic Leadership feat, and the Great Smiting feat is a prerequisite for the Divine Emissary class.
Yeah, I noticed 3.5e has a whole lot of impractical classes, monsters, items and ebin spells made for unbalanced campaigns of epic level. After looking at the books they came out of, I think they're mostly for experienced players and DMs who just make up their own rules so they can play legendary heroes.
>I'm jealous of six gorrillion hit point sneak attack damage
Walk the path of the Blackguard with me.
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>>44254
>Great Smiting
Actually, I think you can bypass the prereq for that and select it as a bonus at lvl 24 Paladin or earlier with Blackguard.
>Great Smiting
Actually, I think you can bypass the prereq for that and select it as a bonus at lvl 24 Paladin or earlier with Blackguard.
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