German for "over stallion," and a reference to Nietzsche's "Übermensch," /üb/ - Überhengst is about bettering yourself physically, mentally, spiritually, and emotionally. It is about self-improvement, constructive self-reflection, and seeking advice from others. You may discuss here those personal hobbies through which you develop your creative energies, and the efforts you take to improve your talents, artistic and otherwise. And of course, this is a board for fitness and literature, as they are parts of the backbone of physical and mental wellness. This is also a board where we may discuss Western culture - history, literature, architecture, and philosophy - as when imbibed, culture improves the mind and spirit, sharpening mental faculties, and providing a greater connection to those around you and to civilizations millennia old.
As this is a self-improvement board, discussions of personal problems should be constructive. No wallowing in self-pity. We are here to become better, and while seeking company in misery may be a helpful part of the process, the process does not end there.
Enjoy!
/ub/ - Überhengst
Becoming better
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ITT we share wisdoms that we have gleaned through our own experiences with our fellow Anons, that they might live a better life. I'll start:
NEVER ask a question unless you are %100 that you want to know the answer. Whatever happens, you literally asked for it, so you better be damn sure you really wanted to know. Remember this and it will help you with friends, family, lovers, and even children. Live your life by it.
NEVER ask a question unless you are %100 that you want to know the answer. Whatever happens, you literally asked for it, so you better be damn sure you really wanted to know. Remember this and it will help you with friends, family, lovers, and even children. Live your life by it.
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Careful. Words are spells.
from the sublime to the ridiculous: hawiian pizza is amazing
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(you) know what this means.
Why haven't you started learning math, anon? Not only does math have practical real world applications, but it will help you in determining what is and isn't true. Without a proper understanding of math you will need to have truth dictated to you by people who do understand. If you really want to be able to uncover truth on your own then you need a proper understanding of math.
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>>8694
And YOU learn some reading comprehension! His allegation
>Your statement is false.
>Jews were never targeted for being jews
Is false, because that's not what I said. If you're going to tell me I'm wrong, at least read what I said properly. I said the people targeted tended to be (what would later be called) jews
And YOU learn some reading comprehension! His allegation
>Your statement is false.
>Jews were never targeted for being jews
Is false, because that's not what I said. If you're going to tell me I'm wrong, at least read what I said properly. I said the people targeted tended to be (what would later be called) jews
Anonymous
No.8697
>>8694
>You learns some reading comprehension nigger.
You can't even write a coherent sentence.
>His statement disproving it
That was not an exclusive statement.
>You learns some reading comprehension nigger.
You can't even write a coherent sentence.
>His statement disproving it
That was not an exclusive statement.
Anonymous
No.8867
Anonymous
No.8875
Never thought my lab work would be a good source of exercise but I'm lugging around steel parts and 55 gallon drums
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How do I ensure I'll still be agile and able to move around when I'm old?
>Take joint supplements
is a lame and generic response; I want gory details. Like what are tendons made of and why do they get stiff, chemical reactions in synovial fluid, et cetera. Bonus points for obscure or non-mainstream joint health tips. Extra bonus points for the lunatic fringe.
>Take joint supplements
is a lame and generic response; I want gory details. Like what are tendons made of and why do they get stiff, chemical reactions in synovial fluid, et cetera. Bonus points for obscure or non-mainstream joint health tips. Extra bonus points for the lunatic fringe.
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Quite possibly the best musical of all time, because it is and REMAINS based on mementum, and it's growing
>what the fuck are you talking about
Epic the Musical is a (duh) musical based on the Odyssey by Homer
The meta behind it is impressive in it's own right, the whole of it is spectacular.
But that's not where it shines. The core of it is that aside from the audio files (audiophiles? :3) its entirely web-based. No one was (on an official level) contracted to produce animatics, and it's all subject to interpretation based on audio.
And so, you find yourself with a melting pot of autists trying to outdo themselves. And it is made better with every stroke.
https://youtu.be/sHyL528ZuBY?si=0hV3mnFjIy3B5oYW
If you're not into musicals, fuck off. This is a niche-thread, so it won't get much, other than me and other ppl sperging about how OMFG THIS.
There's so many themes to be extrapolated. My preference is "Ruthlessness is Mercy Upon Ourselves". But again, it's the animatic artist reinterpretations that make this a dynamic thing. It continues to evolve, as opposed to previous where the script was written, weeks of rehearsals,...
The game is changing
>what the fuck are you talking about
Epic the Musical is a (duh) musical based on the Odyssey by Homer
The meta behind it is impressive in it's own right, the whole of it is spectacular.
But that's not where it shines. The core of it is that aside from the audio files (audiophiles? :3) its entirely web-based. No one was (on an official level) contracted to produce animatics, and it's all subject to interpretation based on audio.
And so, you find yourself with a melting pot of autists trying to outdo themselves. And it is made better with every stroke.
https://youtu.be/sHyL528ZuBY?si=0hV3mnFjIy3B5oYW
If you're not into musicals, fuck off. This is a niche-thread, so it won't get much, other than me and other ppl sperging about how OMFG THIS.
There's so many themes to be extrapolated. My preference is "Ruthlessness is Mercy Upon Ourselves". But again, it's the animatic artist reinterpretations that make this a dynamic thing. It continues to evolve, as opposed to previous where the script was written, weeks of rehearsals,...
The game is changing
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>>8504
You already admitted you haven't any ground to concede. This isn't even a discussion, I don't know what your aim is, but if it's to look foolish, by all means continue.
You already admitted you haven't any ground to concede. This isn't even a discussion, I don't know what your aim is, but if it's to look foolish, by all means continue.
>>8415
Odyssey: Shit hits the fan what do?
Also the musical is 10/10 nice find.
Top song that just clicks is the Sirens and the final song.
The parody of modern love songs top notch.
But each song and leit-motifs embodies the journey and characters well.
Both emotionally and physically.
Pol-kun with his open arms song I think is the vital heart that changes Ody-san and Athena.
Proving friendship is magic.
How? The badass has a tiny flaw, he doesn't yet know the right amount of velvet to an iron fist or iron to the velvet cover.
Athena, is a weaboo strategy neet. After being cock slapped for being a shutin goes and learns that strategy isn't the end all be all, it's a means to an end. That end being friendship.
Thus best grill goes to the wifey while is no hooves didn't need to learn a lesson.
Odyssey: Shit hits the fan what do?
Also the musical is 10/10 nice find.
Top song that just clicks is the Sirens and the final song.
The parody of modern love songs top notch.
But each song and leit-motifs embodies the journey and characters well.
Both emotionally and physically.
Pol-kun with his open arms song I think is the vital heart that changes Ody-san and Athena.
Proving friendship is magic.
How? The badass has a tiny flaw, he doesn't yet know the right amount of velvet to an iron fist or iron to the velvet cover.
Athena, is a weaboo strategy neet. After being cock slapped for being a shutin goes and learns that strategy isn't the end all be all, it's a means to an end. That end being friendship.
Thus best grill goes to the wifey while is no hooves didn't need to learn a lesson.
We must secure the existence of our ponies and a future for white fillies, because the beauty of the White Aryan mare must not perish from Equestria.
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Jesus said to keep and teach all the commandments in the law of Moses. Proof in picrel. He didn't describe it as the entrance into the kingdom (which is by faith alone), but that in the kingdom of heaven, it will be rewarded or result in loss of rewards depending on how we observe the commandments or choose to break them.
Notice at the end of picrel, He says that unless our righteousness surpasses the scripture nerds and the perfectionists, we will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
But the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And that the wages of sin is death. So how could anyone make it into the kingdom?
It is only possible by the righteousness that comes through faith, the kind of faith Abraham had. The Bible says "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." In a similar way, when we believe Jesus at His word, His righteousness is credited to us and we will pass judgement day, entering eternal life in His kingdom.
And separately, Jesus warns us that inside the kingdom, we will be called great if we keep and teach all the commandments in the law of Moses, but if we annul even the least commandment and teach others to do the same, we will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. So He says it greatly affects our rewards once we make it in.
It is only possible to enter the kingdom of heaven by the exact way Jesus said, to repent from sin and believe in Him, so we can have eternal life. All other ways lead to destruction.
Some of the commandments in the law of Moses include the food laws from Leviticus 11:
- only eat clean animals
- land animals: whatever both chews cut and has a divided hoof. for example cows, deer, sheep, goats. But not camels or pigs because they only have one of those two things. And not random animals like dogs or hamsters
- birds: there's a list of birds to avoid, the rest are fair game. The ones to avoid seem to generally be the scavengers and owls kind, and bats iirc.
- sea creatures: only eat fish that have both fins and scales. no other sea creature is allowed
- insects: all creepy crawlies are banned, except for crickets/grasshoppers/locusts/katydids. The ones with the cool jointed jumping legs. Actually delicious
Bonus food laws in Leviticus 3:16-17 (and Leviticus 7:22-27):
- do not eat blood
- do not eat fat (of animals). This one I didn't even notice for years. Doesn't this mean bullion cubes and ground beef shouldn't be eaten? Because both have heavy amounts of beef fat in them. And we shouldn't cook with animal lard/tallow either.
Also there are clothing laws:
- don't crossdress (i.e. men wearing women's garments or women wearing men's garments)
- wear tassels on the 4 corners of your garment, meaning encircling. (Numbers 15:37-41) Some people today make 4 of them and put them on their belt loops around their pants. Some people sew them into their shirt hems
- Don't wear a garment made of mixed fabrics, such as wool and linen mixed together (Deuteronomy 22:11, Leviticus 19:19). (My understanding from studying the word definitions is that this means the thread itself being mixed, like how some clothes today are partially cotton partially polyester blends for the thread. What do you think? I would appreciate other opinions on the original meaning. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/8162.htm)
Bonus commandment from Exodus 23:13:
- "Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be on your guard; and do not mention the name of other gods, nor let them be heard from your mouth."
- doesn't this imply we should not say the names of several of the days of the week and the months of the year which are named after false gods? Some denominations actually changed their calendars for this reason, naming things like "first day, second day" and numbers for the months. Actually the months of September through December are already number names like this.
And of course there is the Sabbath, which is the 4th of the ten commandments, supposed to be kept a day earlier than mainstream Christianity observes, and it's supposed to be an actual day of rest, that we stop working. So things like yardwork or reorganizing rooms should wait until another day. It's supposed to be a gift to us, a day of rest, a delight.
Look what Isaiah 58:13 says:
13 If because of the sabbath, you turn your foot from doing your own pleasure on My holy day, and call the sabbath a delight, the holy day of the LORD honorable, and honor it, desisting from your own ways, from seeking your own pleasure and speaking your own word,
14 Then you will take delight in the LORD, and I will make you ride on the heights of the earth; and I will feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father, for the mouth of the LORD has spoken.”
There's a lot of other commands to. Jesus said they all are important, that they are all in effect until heaven and earth pass away, and that some big rewards in the kingdom of heaven depend on how we treat the entire law of Moses, even the least commandment in it.
Notice at the end of picrel, He says that unless our righteousness surpasses the scripture nerds and the perfectionists, we will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
But the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And that the wages of sin is death. So how could anyone make it into the kingdom?
It is only possible by the righteousness that comes through faith, the kind of faith Abraham had. The Bible says "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." In a similar way, when we believe Jesus at His word, His righteousness is credited to us and we will pass judgement day, entering eternal life in His kingdom.
And separately, Jesus warns us that inside the kingdom, we will be called great if we keep and teach all the commandments in the law of Moses, but if we annul even the least commandment and teach others to do the same, we will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. So He says it greatly affects our rewards once we make it in.
It is only possible to enter the kingdom of heaven by the exact way Jesus said, to repent from sin and believe in Him, so we can have eternal life. All other ways lead to destruction.
Some of the commandments in the law of Moses include the food laws from Leviticus 11:
- only eat clean animals
- land animals: whatever both chews cut and has a divided hoof. for example cows, deer, sheep, goats. But not camels or pigs because they only have one of those two things. And not random animals like dogs or hamsters
- birds: there's a list of birds to avoid, the rest are fair game. The ones to avoid seem to generally be the scavengers and owls kind, and bats iirc.
- sea creatures: only eat fish that have both fins and scales. no other sea creature is allowed
- insects: all creepy crawlies are banned, except for crickets/grasshoppers/locusts/katydids. The ones with the cool jointed jumping legs. Actually delicious
Bonus food laws in Leviticus 3:16-17 (and Leviticus 7:22-27):
- do not eat blood
- do not eat fat (of animals). This one I didn't even notice for years. Doesn't this mean bullion cubes and ground beef shouldn't be eaten? Because both have heavy amounts of beef fat in them. And we shouldn't cook with animal lard/tallow either.
Also there are clothing laws:
- don't crossdress (i.e. men wearing women's garments or women wearing men's garments)
- wear tassels on the 4 corners of your garment, meaning encircling. (Numbers 15:37-41) Some people today make 4 of them and put them on their belt loops around their pants. Some people sew them into their shirt hems
- Don't wear a garment made of mixed fabrics, such as wool and linen mixed together (Deuteronomy 22:11, Leviticus 19:19). (My understanding from studying the word definitions is that this means the thread itself being mixed, like how some clothes today are partially cotton partially polyester blends for the thread. What do you think? I would appreciate other opinions on the original meaning. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/8162.htm)
Bonus commandment from Exodus 23:13:
- "Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be on your guard; and do not mention the name of other gods, nor let them be heard from your mouth."
- doesn't this imply we should not say the names of several of the days of the week and the months of the year which are named after false gods? Some denominations actually changed their calendars for this reason, naming things like "first day, second day" and numbers for the months. Actually the months of September through December are already number names like this.
And of course there is the Sabbath, which is the 4th of the ten commandments, supposed to be kept a day earlier than mainstream Christianity observes, and it's supposed to be an actual day of rest, that we stop working. So things like yardwork or reorganizing rooms should wait until another day. It's supposed to be a gift to us, a day of rest, a delight.
Look what Isaiah 58:13 says:
13 If because of the sabbath, you turn your foot from doing your own pleasure on My holy day, and call the sabbath a delight, the holy day of the LORD honorable, and honor it, desisting from your own ways, from seeking your own pleasure and speaking your own word,
14 Then you will take delight in the LORD, and I will make you ride on the heights of the earth; and I will feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father, for the mouth of the LORD has spoken.”
There's a lot of other commands to. Jesus said they all are important, that they are all in effect until heaven and earth pass away, and that some big rewards in the kingdom of heaven depend on how we treat the entire law of Moses, even the least commandment in it.
The Bible says a lot of shit. Like the world was made in 7 days and nights or that a talking snake caused the world to fall or that an old dude took two of every animal and put them on a boat. It's bullshit and it's bad for you.
>>8834
those are true
More to the point though, Jesus' words are true. He said we all must repent and believe in Him to have eternal life
those are true
More to the point though, Jesus' words are true. He said we all must repent and believe in Him to have eternal life
>>8835
No they aren't. You basically have to deny all of modern chemistry, physics, biology, and geology in order to beliebe that stuff.
No they aren't. You basically have to deny all of modern chemistry, physics, biology, and geology in order to beliebe that stuff.
>>8837
If you believe Jesus is the Son of God, that He died on the cross as payment for our sin, that He promised us eternal life, and that He rose from the dead on the third day, then how are those other things difficult to believe? God created all things, so how is it hard to believe He has power to intervene and suspend science to do miracles?
also it's interesting that science claims eons for the ages of things, but we are finding a lot of dinosaur soft tissues preserved in fossils, which should not be possible to have survived millions of years. And that there's significant carbon 14 in the soft tissues, which means it's less than tens of thousands of years max, or there would be zero carbon 14 in them
If you believe Jesus is the Son of God, that He died on the cross as payment for our sin, that He promised us eternal life, and that He rose from the dead on the third day, then how are those other things difficult to believe? God created all things, so how is it hard to believe He has power to intervene and suspend science to do miracles?
also it's interesting that science claims eons for the ages of things, but we are finding a lot of dinosaur soft tissues preserved in fossils, which should not be possible to have survived millions of years. And that there's significant carbon 14 in the soft tissues, which means it's less than tens of thousands of years max, or there would be zero carbon 14 in them
>>8839
I'm an agnostic and there are other forms of radiometric dating. Carbon 14 is hardly the only one. As for the soft tissue fossils those require special sediment and rapid burial. Those fossils are very rare.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating
I'm an agnostic and there are other forms of radiometric dating. Carbon 14 is hardly the only one. As for the soft tissue fossils those require special sediment and rapid burial. Those fossils are very rare.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating
What are you currently reading?
Feel free to post your thoughts or comments on the book you're reading so far!
Feel free to post your thoughts or comments on the book you're reading so far!
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Max Stirner's The Ego and His Own
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-ego-and-his-own
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-ego-and-his-own
If you want to read a fun book about women being horrendous cunts, I just finished this and it was a pretty good read.
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Andromeda Strain. A good classic.
IIT we discuss and study the Bible. I will be using the King James Version and will take the stance of a fundamental literalist, which is a bit redundant, but these days there exist many that claim to be fundamental but reject the literal interpretation of Scripture when they encounter something they don't agree or understand. I am not a Bible scholar, I'm not a pastor, I don't currently attend any denomination's church service. I'm just an anon that really like to study the Bible. Feel free to argue with me, I could be completely wrong and I hope to learn more about the Bible along the way.
I will post below my first study topic and what I have researched about it. Hopefully it will be interesting and somewhat engaging.
I will post below my first study topic and what I have researched about it. Hopefully it will be interesting and somewhat engaging.
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>>8474
I couldn't find what you were referring to so far. I did look up Sumerian gods to see if it came up, but I can't find it so far. Unless I am overlooking it, I searched through the wiki of Sumerian gods and couldn't find it. I did find interesting ones that have gnostic parallels, possibly inspiring some of the gnostic texts, so that might be interesting to go over sometime.
I couldn't find what you were referring to so far. I did look up Sumerian gods to see if it came up, but I can't find it so far. Unless I am overlooking it, I searched through the wiki of Sumerian gods and couldn't find it. I did find interesting ones that have gnostic parallels, possibly inspiring some of the gnostic texts, so that might be interesting to go over sometime.
>>8413
reminds me of both Isaiah 1 and the gospel.
Isaiah 1 says:
2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
When we continue in rebellion, we get wounded so much that there's no more space on our body for more wounds. And are we not suffering from much of what verse 7 describes today in the West? Strangers are devouring our nations, overthrowing us.
Isn't this also the problem when King Saul offered a sacrifice by himself illegally (he was not a priest)? Samuel told him that obedience is better than sacrifice, but that rebellion is as witchcraft and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Isaiah 1 continues:
10 Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Here God says why do you do rituals to worship Me, while continuing to rebel? How can we worship God while also continuing to do things He hates? He said it is wearing Him to watch us pretend to worship Him while actively disobeying. He says we need to put away our evil deeds, stop doing it. And to try to help the helpless people.
As James 1:27 states: Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
Continuing in Isaiah 1:
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it."
Here God says if we continue in rebellion, it ends in destruction. But if we are willing to obey Him, we will eat the best of the land. He offers to clean us from our rebellion and sin.
23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
24 Therefore saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
25 And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:
26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed.
Here God says the leaders have been rebellious, seeking their own gain instead of ruling justly. Like what happened with King Rehoboam as you mentioned. But God promises to smelt us and remove the dross, redeeming us with judgement and righteousness. While those who continue in rebellion will be destroyed, consumed.
29 For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen.
30 For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth, and as a garden that hath no water.
31 And the strong shall be as tow, and the maker of it as a spark, and they shall both burn together, and none shall quench them.
We will be ashamed of the idols we chose to seek in rebellion. Those who continue in rebellion will perish, despite how strong they seem.
The reason it reminds me of the Proverbs passage is because wisdom was calling out to people but they didn't listen. So eventually, their end was destruction. In the Isaiah passage it's God offering a path to forgiveness and healing, redemption. And those who don't listen will end in destruction. As proverbs says, "the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom"
reminds me of both Isaiah 1 and the gospel.
Isaiah 1 says:
2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
When we continue in rebellion, we get wounded so much that there's no more space on our body for more wounds. And are we not suffering from much of what verse 7 describes today in the West? Strangers are devouring our nations, overthrowing us.
Isn't this also the problem when King Saul offered a sacrifice by himself illegally (he was not a priest)? Samuel told him that obedience is better than sacrifice, but that rebellion is as witchcraft and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Isaiah 1 continues:
10 Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Here God says why do you do rituals to worship Me, while continuing to rebel? How can we worship God while also continuing to do things He hates? He said it is wearing Him to watch us pretend to worship Him while actively disobeying. He says we need to put away our evil deeds, stop doing it. And to try to help the helpless people.
As James 1:27 states: Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
Continuing in Isaiah 1:
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it."
Here God says if we continue in rebellion, it ends in destruction. But if we are willing to obey Him, we will eat the best of the land. He offers to clean us from our rebellion and sin.
23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
24 Therefore saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
25 And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:
26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed.
Here God says the leaders have been rebellious, seeking their own gain instead of ruling justly. Like what happened with King Rehoboam as you mentioned. But God promises to smelt us and remove the dross, redeeming us with judgement and righteousness. While those who continue in rebellion will be destroyed, consumed.
29 For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen.
30 For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth, and as a garden that hath no water.
31 And the strong shall be as tow, and the maker of it as a spark, and they shall both burn together, and none shall quench them.
We will be ashamed of the idols we chose to seek in rebellion. Those who continue in rebellion will perish, despite how strong they seem.
The reason it reminds me of the Proverbs passage is because wisdom was calling out to people but they didn't listen. So eventually, their end was destruction. In the Isaiah passage it's God offering a path to forgiveness and healing, redemption. And those who don't listen will end in destruction. As proverbs says, "the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom"
>>8826
How it reminds me of the gospel is that Jesus spoke the same message. In Luke 13 for example:
1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
And in John 8, Jesus says:
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
I think Jesus is describing what Isaiah 1 promised, a way that our sins, despite being red as scarlet, can be made white as snow. But if we refuse and continue to rebel, our end is total destruction.
John 11 says:
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
As a general question to those reading, do you believe? Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. He is the only way to get a clean record and pass judgement day. He lived without sinning and died as a perfect sacrifice to pay our debt, our punishment for sinning. God rose Him from the dead three days later as evidence. Believing in Jesus is the only way to have eternal life.
And how the gospel ties into wisdom, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 1:
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
So we have to put aside earthly/manmade wisdom to hold to the gospel. We have to acknowledge that our strength is not enough on our own. We can't act good enough to pass judgement day ourselves, because all of us have chosen to sin, and the Bible says that the wages of sin is death.
As Isaiah 64 says:
6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
And Isaiah 45:
24 Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
Our boasting, our claim to any righteousness and any strength, is only in the LORD. And all men will come before Jesus one day for judgement. Those who hated Him will be ashamed.
As Proverbs says again, "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"
So we should repent and believe in Jesus, because the kingdom of heaven is near! He said believe in Him to have eternal life. Repent from sin and start practicing righteousness like the prophets and Jesus said to do.
If you do believe, Jesus said we ought to not spend our lives for earthly pursuits, because they don't last. He said seek the kingdom first and the Father's righteousness, and all the physical needs will be added to you. No need to work a job and figure out finances, just go out and do the work, go out and preach the gospel everywhere, to all creation like He said, and He will take care of the food and clothing and other needs. He said that when He returns, He brings a reward for every man's labor.
As Proverbs also says, "he who wins souls is wise"
And "Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured."
So serve the Master, serve Jesus only. He said we cannot serve both God and wealth. Serve Jesus only, and win souls. Preach the gospel everywhere even when they persecute you, insult you, exclude you, and make up evil about you. Jesus said this stores up rewards and treasure in heaven for us, and imo it benefits God the most. Is this not the fulfillment of "love God with all your heart"? God does not want anyone to perish, but that we would all repent and believe in His Son, Jesus Christ
How it reminds me of the gospel is that Jesus spoke the same message. In Luke 13 for example:
1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
And in John 8, Jesus says:
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
I think Jesus is describing what Isaiah 1 promised, a way that our sins, despite being red as scarlet, can be made white as snow. But if we refuse and continue to rebel, our end is total destruction.
John 11 says:
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
As a general question to those reading, do you believe? Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. He is the only way to get a clean record and pass judgement day. He lived without sinning and died as a perfect sacrifice to pay our debt, our punishment for sinning. God rose Him from the dead three days later as evidence. Believing in Jesus is the only way to have eternal life.
And how the gospel ties into wisdom, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 1:
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
So we have to put aside earthly/manmade wisdom to hold to the gospel. We have to acknowledge that our strength is not enough on our own. We can't act good enough to pass judgement day ourselves, because all of us have chosen to sin, and the Bible says that the wages of sin is death.
As Isaiah 64 says:
6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
And Isaiah 45:
24 Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
Our boasting, our claim to any righteousness and any strength, is only in the LORD. And all men will come before Jesus one day for judgement. Those who hated Him will be ashamed.
As Proverbs says again, "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"
So we should repent and believe in Jesus, because the kingdom of heaven is near! He said believe in Him to have eternal life. Repent from sin and start practicing righteousness like the prophets and Jesus said to do.
If you do believe, Jesus said we ought to not spend our lives for earthly pursuits, because they don't last. He said seek the kingdom first and the Father's righteousness, and all the physical needs will be added to you. No need to work a job and figure out finances, just go out and do the work, go out and preach the gospel everywhere, to all creation like He said, and He will take care of the food and clothing and other needs. He said that when He returns, He brings a reward for every man's labor.
As Proverbs also says, "he who wins souls is wise"
And "Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured."
So serve the Master, serve Jesus only. He said we cannot serve both God and wealth. Serve Jesus only, and win souls. Preach the gospel everywhere even when they persecute you, insult you, exclude you, and make up evil about you. Jesus said this stores up rewards and treasure in heaven for us, and imo it benefits God the most. Is this not the fulfillment of "love God with all your heart"? God does not want anyone to perish, but that we would all repent and believe in His Son, Jesus Christ
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When I was stuck in willing sin for years like with lust, this passage is what got me actually free. Jesus said it is guaranteed to work, but when He returns will He find faith on the earth? Will we believe and seek Him to do it for us personally?
He said if we ask anything in His name, He will do it. So for any sin, you can persistently pray, asking that He would free you from it. I asked that He would make me as if autistic and dead to lust. And after a time it happened, and my life changed dramatically as a result. He said it will happen quickly, so be persistent and keep asking, and don't lose heart.
I didn't even know how to stop wanting to lust at the time. I just asked saying I decide that I don't want to do it since it is sin, that it is against my will but that I don't know how to feel like obeying and force myself to change. Asked God to fix that. And one day He did. He saved me from sins which had overpowered me for over a decade. Only in Him is righteousness and strength.
As John 8 says:
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
He came to destroy the works of the Devil. So ask Him for freedom from sin, because He promised to give it!
He said if we ask anything in His name, He will do it. So for any sin, you can persistently pray, asking that He would free you from it. I asked that He would make me as if autistic and dead to lust. And after a time it happened, and my life changed dramatically as a result. He said it will happen quickly, so be persistent and keep asking, and don't lose heart.
I didn't even know how to stop wanting to lust at the time. I just asked saying I decide that I don't want to do it since it is sin, that it is against my will but that I don't know how to feel like obeying and force myself to change. Asked God to fix that. And one day He did. He saved me from sins which had overpowered me for over a decade. Only in Him is righteousness and strength.
As John 8 says:
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
He came to destroy the works of the Devil. So ask Him for freedom from sin, because He promised to give it!
tl;dr: post shit about how to machine or manufacture shit here. Being able to make shit makes you more of a man with bigger balls.
Lets start on the political side of manufacturing with a USA centric theme.
Once upon a time, USA was the best. It was the best because it allowed anyone to build anything they wanted and purchase anything they wanted. After all, things you own are tools, and tools are needed to survive. Why should the government put any kind of restrictions on tools needed to survive?
Well, over the years, that is exactly what they did, because the more difficult it is for you to survive with less (or incorrect) tools. The more difficult of a time you have surviving, and the less you can do something about the government.
The greatest of all these is the ability to make more tools or better tools. In the modern vernacular, this is called machining, manufacturing, fabricating, and a lot of others that are more industry specific. I suppose the second greatest ability is to be able to protect such things, but that is outside the scope of this shitpost.
Why is the ability to build [tools] important? Because it lets you, the invisible hand, be able to swiftly deal with governments (problems) how you see fit in ways that nobody can anticipate. Why do you think policies being pushed through has been moving businesses over seas? The government does not want you to know how to make shit. Workers unions have not been nice either, but as near as I can tell that is the result of a different symptom (greed). In either case, bureaucracy is a hindrance to market (you: the invisible hand’s) agility.
I could rant about all the stupid shit in various markets that result in what I already said, but instead I’d rather focus on shit that will make a better life for you. In general, focusing on the use of lathe and mill work. Lets start with the stupid basics.
Example of CNC lathe in use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGHtI9Lql4
Example of CNC mill in use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHstzxuryMk
Admittedly both examples are with machines that are a bit fancier than what might be typically found, but that does not change anything other than how many times a part is handled before it is finished.
Using a lathe is called turning a part. Using a mill is called milling a part. Turning and milling parts, along with some of the more exotic methods of cutting material (such as waterjet or EDM or centerless grinding machines), is called machining.
While I don’t follow the religion of safety (the reason why ppl are so worried about C-19 to begin with), there are certain things shat should be done or not done to keep all your limbs attached to your body. Things like leaving the chuck key in and walking away. Or wearing a long sleeve shirt and reaching around the quill of the mill while its on. Don’t be a dumbass and instead use that head attached to that white neck of yours.
What I’d like to do from time to time is post in here about various machining and manufacturing practices, tips, tricks, and methodology at large.
Remember though, its not about me, its about giving you the knowledge and tools to become richer yourself. If you have a question or something related, go ahead and post it.
Lets start on the political side of manufacturing with a USA centric theme.
Once upon a time, USA was the best. It was the best because it allowed anyone to build anything they wanted and purchase anything they wanted. After all, things you own are tools, and tools are needed to survive. Why should the government put any kind of restrictions on tools needed to survive?
Well, over the years, that is exactly what they did, because the more difficult it is for you to survive with less (or incorrect) tools. The more difficult of a time you have surviving, and the less you can do something about the government.
The greatest of all these is the ability to make more tools or better tools. In the modern vernacular, this is called machining, manufacturing, fabricating, and a lot of others that are more industry specific. I suppose the second greatest ability is to be able to protect such things, but that is outside the scope of this shitpost.
Why is the ability to build [tools] important? Because it lets you, the invisible hand, be able to swiftly deal with governments (problems) how you see fit in ways that nobody can anticipate. Why do you think policies being pushed through has been moving businesses over seas? The government does not want you to know how to make shit. Workers unions have not been nice either, but as near as I can tell that is the result of a different symptom (greed). In either case, bureaucracy is a hindrance to market (you: the invisible hand’s) agility.
I could rant about all the stupid shit in various markets that result in what I already said, but instead I’d rather focus on shit that will make a better life for you. In general, focusing on the use of lathe and mill work. Lets start with the stupid basics.
Example of CNC lathe in use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGHtI9Lql4
Example of CNC mill in use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHstzxuryMk
Admittedly both examples are with machines that are a bit fancier than what might be typically found, but that does not change anything other than how many times a part is handled before it is finished.
Using a lathe is called turning a part. Using a mill is called milling a part. Turning and milling parts, along with some of the more exotic methods of cutting material (such as waterjet or EDM or centerless grinding machines), is called machining.
While I don’t follow the religion of safety (the reason why ppl are so worried about C-19 to begin with), there are certain things shat should be done or not done to keep all your limbs attached to your body. Things like leaving the chuck key in and walking away. Or wearing a long sleeve shirt and reaching around the quill of the mill while its on. Don’t be a dumbass and instead use that head attached to that white neck of yours.
What I’d like to do from time to time is post in here about various machining and manufacturing practices, tips, tricks, and methodology at large.
Remember though, its not about me, its about giving you the knowledge and tools to become richer yourself. If you have a question or something related, go ahead and post it.
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There was this guy Norm, who was a millwright at a treatment plant.
What is it about guys named "Norm" being absurdly skilled, btw? Never has the guy named Norm been anything but the expert.
Anyway, he worked as a millwright just to give himself an income for a while, before going BACK to work as an underwater bridge welder, making 600k/year
What is it about guys named "Norm" being absurdly skilled, btw? Never has the guy named Norm been anything but the expert.
Anyway, he worked as a millwright just to give himself an income for a while, before going BACK to work as an underwater bridge welder, making 600k/year
I think Trade Schools should get the same funding as universities. Skilled trades are just valuable, if not more so.
>>8791
Just slash the useless social "sciences" and humanities. You would get rid of all the antiwhites and proceduce skills the country needs.
Just slash the useless social "sciences" and humanities. You would get rid of all the antiwhites and proceduce skills the country needs.
>>8805
Either that or just return the humanities to what they were originally, studying Greek classics and ancient languages and subjects that actually have real bearing on Western civilization, and yeet out all the postmodern nonsense and nigger-worship. Also: financial aid and most scholarships should be eliminated, and high schools should stop trying to funnel every student into college regardless of whether or not they belong there. College should return to being what it was originally, ie a place where those with the brains and inclination can learn about history, sciences and the world and get a well-rounded education. Everyone else can be filtered into trade schools, apprenticeships, and worthwhile occupations, instead of wasting years getting a degree in bullshit and ending up competing over worthless office jobs. Literally everyone wins.
Either that or just return the humanities to what they were originally, studying Greek classics and ancient languages and subjects that actually have real bearing on Western civilization, and yeet out all the postmodern nonsense and nigger-worship. Also: financial aid and most scholarships should be eliminated, and high schools should stop trying to funnel every student into college regardless of whether or not they belong there. College should return to being what it was originally, ie a place where those with the brains and inclination can learn about history, sciences and the world and get a well-rounded education. Everyone else can be filtered into trade schools, apprenticeships, and worthwhile occupations, instead of wasting years getting a degree in bullshit and ending up competing over worthless office jobs. Literally everyone wins.
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