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Bible Study Thread
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IIT we discuss and study the Bible. I will be using the King James Version and will take the stance of a fundamental literalist, which is a bit redundant, but these days there exist many that claim to be fundamental but reject the literal interpretation of Scripture when they encounter something they don't agree or understand. I am not a Bible scholar, I'm not a pastor, I don't currently attend any denomination's church service. I'm just an anon that really like to study the Bible. Feel free to argue with me, I could be completely wrong and I hope to learn more about the Bible along the way.

I will post below my first study topic and what I have researched about it. Hopefully it will be interesting and somewhat engaging.
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Anonymous
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Glad to see everyone interested in this thread. I hope I can make it worth the attention.

>>3705
The area talked about was Greek controlled, now located in Turkey. I can't confirm as I never heard of a Greek practice like this, but I haven't studied the topic of Greek religious customs. If they did, it was a Greek area, so it would make sense.

>>3706
Thanks. I'm glad you have been sticking around even in my absence.

>>3711
https://youtu.be/O4GyijcVBGw

>>3712
Probably the former, but at least it is opening up some discussion.

>>3714
>>3716
While tolerance is definitely something taught against, even in the verses I am covering now, where Jesus promises to destroy the churches that are tolerating heresies and corruption within, we must also have longsuffering towards those both within and without.
II Timothy 4
1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away* their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Those that deny and those that become unfruitful should be dealt with in patience.

>>3717
Most likely.

>>3718
Matthew 5
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

It is best to use the Word as your method of correction and not namecalling by yourself, as it just makes those that could listen turn away. I struggle with this as well, especially in the moment, but it would be best to keep calm and correct with the best corrective tool given to man, which is far more effective in the names it calls you, as it hits you with truth rather than human reasoning. For example, Psalm 14 and Psalm 53 say nearly the exact same thing, with only slight variation in the text, so I will take from Psalm 14
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. 2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

The reason this works is because it says the truth, that they that deny the existence of God, and further more, no one, seeks after God. They are corrupt and can't see Him even if He floated in front of them to see.

>>3720
Agreed.

>>3725
>>3727
I will be sure to check out this thread. I haven't studied many thinkers in depth, but I will be interested to take a dive into it.

>>3730
Nothing wrong with exploring some literary works and the thoughts of those that have come before, as long as you remember that the best of us are flawed and compare everything to the ultimate measure, the Word of God.

>>3732
https://youtu.be/19TBzy81Mac

>>3734
Off the rails is much more engaging than block text of Scripture, as long as it returns to the focus, which I think will happen with another post or two of mine. I'm glad things got a bit off topic as it gave you the idea for a thread.
Anonymous
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>>3734
>I'm assuming you haven't read it,
I did when I was 19, it is NOT an easy book, it needs at least 3 re-reads to grasp it and draw conclusions from it. This is the reason why I prefer books like Candide by Voltaire, a superb novel if you ask.
Going back to our common matter: philosophy is like brain masturbation for the idle soul. Illuminism is the root of the West's decline.
Anonymous
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No.3738
>>3735
>I will be sure to check out this thread. I haven't studied many thinkers in depth, but I will be interested to take a dive into it.
Hope to see you over there.

>>3736
Okay pal. Hope you reconsider.
Anonymous
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>>3736
Based, I see what you did there. Or perhaps, what resulted of what you did. You're not wrong tho.
Anonymous
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Wait, I have a legitimate question.

What does god say of Christians who engage in falsehood, duplicity, and disingenuously represent themselves? Like, is it okay for Christians to willfully lie and deceive? Even non believers? I thought that was only a muslim thing.
Anonymous
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>>3742
Do you think Christians should be the only people not allowed to lie
Anonymous
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>>3743
>totally not avoiding the question
Anonymous
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>>3744
But your question is gay. It makes no sense to bash christians when evil is raping your country. You can't prove that there is or is not a deity, that's why they call it "Faith". Faith that there could be more to the universe than meat and dirt. Smug atheist bullies love to suck muslim cock and bully christians to feel secure. You harass the patient in lands where they cannot kill you for it legally. It's a shame.
Just reposting that's all
Anonymous
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>>3742
>>3743
>>3744
>>3748
What the fuck.
The incomprehension at play here on both sides is mind boggling.
Well let's go check the books with a word search.
Because unlike most dune religions Christianity actually has multiple search engines.
Multiple posts incoming.

Using https://www.biblegateway.com
Psalm 34
King James Version
34 I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall continually be in my mouth.

2 My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.

3 O magnify the Lord with me, and let us exalt his name together.

4 I sought the Lord, and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears.

5 They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed.

6 This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.

7 The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.

8 O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

9 O fear the Lord, ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him.

10 The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger: but they that seek the Lord shall not want any good thing.

11 Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the Lord.

12 What man is he that desireth life, and loveth many days, that he may see good?

13 Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile.

14 Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.

15 The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry.

16 The face of the Lord is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.

17 The righteous cry, and the Lord heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.

18 The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the Lord delivereth him out of them all.

20 He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.

21 Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.

22 The Lord redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.
Anonymous
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>>3751
Exodus 34
King James Version
34 And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.

2 And be ready in the morning, and come up in the morning unto mount Sinai, and present thyself there to me in the top of the mount.

3 And no man shall come up with thee, neither let any man be seen throughout all the mount; neither let the flocks nor herds feed before that mount.

4 And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as the Lord had commanded him, and took in his hand the two tables of stone.

5 And the Lord descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the Lord.

6 And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

9 And he said, If now I have found grace in thy sight, O Lord, let my Lord, I pray thee, go among us; for it is a stiffnecked people; and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for thine inheritance.

10 And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the Lord: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.

11 Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;

16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.

17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.

18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.

19 All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male.

20 But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.

21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.

22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.

23 Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the Lord God, the God of Israel.

24 For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the Lord thy God thrice in the year.

25 Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.

26 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.

27 And the Lord said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.

28 And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.

30 And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.

31 And Moses called unto them; and Aaron and all the rulers of the congregation returned unto him: and Moses talked with them.

32 And afterward all the children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in commandment all that the Lord had spoken with him in mount Sinai.

33 And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.

34 But when Moses went in before the Lord to speak with him, he took the vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto the children of Israel that which he was commanded.

35 And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him.
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>>3752
Hebrews 12
King James Version
12 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;

13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;

16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:

20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:

21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

29 For our God is a consuming fire.
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>>3753
Additional resource:
https://www.jesuschristsavior.net/Beatitudes.html
Matthew 5
King James Version
5 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:

2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;

24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:

34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:

35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.

37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Anonymous
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>>3754
In order of Beatitudes. Compressed.
https://www.jesuschristsavior.net/Beatitudes.html
>An early contemplation on the Beatitudes came from St. Gregory of Nyssa, a mystic who lived in Cappadocia in Asia Minor around 380 AD. He described the Beatitudes this way:
>"Beatitude is a possession of all things held to be good,
from which nothing is absent that a good desire may want.
Perhaps the meaning of beatitude may become clearer to us
if it is compared with its opposite.
Now the opposite of beatitude is misery.
Misery means being afflicted unwillingly with painful sufferings."

https://www.jesuschristsavior.net/Beatitudes.html
>"Poor in spirit" means to be humble.
>If we are humble and appreciate that all of our gifts and blessings come from God, we grow in love and gratitude for Jesus Christ our Savior. But this can only produce mourning and regret over our own sins and the sins of this world, for we have hurt the one who has been so good to us. One also mourns for the suffering of others.
St. Gregory describes another reason to mourn: the more one ascends in meditation of Divine Truth, Beauty, and Goodness, and then realize the poverty of human nature, man can only be left in sorrow. When one contemplates that we were made in the image and likeness of God and lived in Paradise, the Garden of Eden, and compare that to our present state after the Fall, one can only mourn our present condition. But the sentence continues that they shall be comforted, by the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, and hopefully one day in the Kingdom of Heaven. Pray for the Fruit of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) - love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
Mourning in this context is called a blessing, because mourning our fallen nature creates in us a desire to improve ourselves and to do what is right!

>A person that is meek is one that exhibits self-control.
. . .
Obedience and submission to the will of God are certainly not in vogue these days, but they will bring one peace in this world and in the next.

>Justice and righteousness in the New Covenant indicate the fulfillment of God's will in your heart and soul. It is not mere observance of the law (Matthew 5:20), but rather an expression of brotherly love (I John 3:10). A continuous desire for justice and moral perfection will lead one to a fulfillment of that desire - a transition and conversion to holiness. This is true for all the virtues - if you hunger and thirst for temperance, you will head towards the goal you have in mind.
>"Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful" (Luke 6:36). Mercy is the loving disposition towards those who suffer distress.
>Pope John Paul II wrote that the Beatitudes in a sense are a self-portrait of Christ! Moses (Exodus 33:20), John 1:18, and Paul (I Timothy 6:16) all say that no one can see God here on earth. God is hidden. But Jesus says the pure of heart shall see God! To be pure of heart means to be free of all selfish intentions and self-seeking desires.
>Jesus gives us peace - "Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you" (John 14:27). Peace is a Fruit of the Spirit. Peacemakers not only live peaceful lives but also try to bring peace and friendship to others, and to preserve peace between God and man. But one cannot give another what one does not possess oneself. Prayer will bring peace into your heart. The Lord wants you first to be filled with the blessings of peace and then to pass it on to those who have need of it. By imitating God's love of man, the peacemakers become children of God.
>persecute
>But the Lord promised those that suffer for his sake will be rewarded with the Kingdom of Heaven!
Anonymous
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No.3756
>>3743
To answer you no. To lie is a sin.
You could do so, and pray for forgiveness. Or something.
Actually in better words you gotta go ask Jesus or God or an Angel.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
>>3742
Mudslimes lie to extract the weakness so they may kill them easier.
Jews entire books is about lies and word games, all the time.
Both say to enslave the goyim, aka animals, which means you. Slaughtering animals for them is a fine and a slap on the wrist for destroying property.
Needless to say, that's bad.
>>3748
Yes, you can prove it. Faith is KNOWING and there is ZERO DOUBT.

>t. occultist
Anonymous
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No.3757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rd8T6Epqis
Anonymous
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>>3748
>you cant prove
Precisely. And yet, all this posturing
Anonymous
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>>3758
I know, right? All this posturing from you godless soulless worthless atheist+ cocksuckers who can't fucking stand the idea that a functional society might need soft rules like "No sucking dicks or else you're disgusting" and "Slutty femalea are scum" in addition to hard rules like "pedophiles belong in jail". You're so desperate to view christianity as a silly and backwards infringement upon your personal freedoms, you'll deny its necessary societal role even if it means aiding and abetting invasive conquerors. If all atheists were exported to muslim nations, they'd get on their knees and beg for forgiveness and swear they'll never shit-talk people more righteous than them again.
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3761
>>3758
>>3759
I'm going to slap a bitch.
>All this posturing from you godless soulless worthless
I have my soul, I have seen your gods, I know exactly what I'm getting into and out of. So kindly fuck off and listen to your books and saints so you'll be a better person.
>If all atheists were exported to muslim nations, they'd get on their knees and beg for forgiveness and swear they'll never shit-talk people more righteous than them again.
I'm going to assume you also mean any other religion as well. Let me tell you. Hell hath no fury like a righteous man scorned. Ten years tops they'll be overturned and dashed to the wind forevermore.
Then you'll try to stick your dick in to 'save' the heretics. It's your god given laws.
>>3758
Bruh.
Remember ((())) is the first and foremost enemy of everything on and beyond Earth, no matter their size or shape.
Guess who offers up their children to (((them)))? Is option D all of the above, because few people get that offering up your child (can also be metaphorical) for defilement is also your own slavery.
Anonymous
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>>3759
>>3760
>I have seen your gods
You've seen your own delusions
>((()))
I'm not the one who implied mass impaling was the correct response to questioning your so unquestionable beliefs. Ngl, but 'the enemy of my enemy dies second' comes to mind, but not to do with my mentality. That was (you) lot.
>I have a soul
Oh? Quantify it. Present it. Make evidence of it, other than conjecture (no, what 'the Bible says' is not evidence, btw). This 'knowing', how can you validate it but to state that you 'know'? How do you qualify this 'knowledge'? What litmus tests can it pass? Is there any actual evidence beyond your assertion, and some biased and circumstantial assertions?
Anonymous
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No.3762
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>>3761
>what 'the Bible says' is not evidence,
I'm an occultist, doing spooky woo-woo shit. So what kind of evidence do you want?
As in I (my, myself and I. Which is my soul) could go about doing paranormal stuff if you want. Mind you that just and 'only' 'proves' the paranormal not necessarily that it's my soul or the simulation of sensations is the 'real thing'.
Which as always could be chalked up to a mere coincidence.
Then again you could do a summoning for the part of my soul that's on call for various shenanigans.
<Why post those verses though?
Doing things the right way is important. By which the demonstration is suitable for the time and place. If someone is desperate to go do whatever I'd like for them to at least do things in a way that is good and true. If their going to be a Christian they better well do it with excellence so they'll be a marvel to witness at the very least, maybe they'll do some good too.
Anonymous
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No.3763
3767
Why do atheists have so much anger towards the idea that they might be the ones who need to disprove the evidence of God, when they have already made up their mind on the lack of any God?
Do Atheists not see the societal value of religion and its role in shaping societal values for the better? Do they not think that's worth going to church and pretending to praise the lord (or just shutting the fuck up for 10 minutes) instead of dedicating their lives to hounding and bullying and persecuting Christians however they can, no matter where they are found?
If you're reading this you've probably been fucked over by a Jew at least once. If you're reading this you or someone you know has probably been fucked over by a Muslim at least once.
You've seen for yourself how effortlessly the atheist community was pozzed and turned into feminist jewish "atheist+" bullshit. That's what happens when you lack a religious grounding for your morals during your formative years. Adults who say "I'm moral now so I don't need Jesus" aren't really adults, they're toddlers who deny the role living in a somewhat-Christian society during their formative years had on their lives and morality.
Anonymous
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No.3764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIqi9bcZSBA
Anonymous
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No.3765
If your going to be serious you need to be serious about this. Being a Christian is no joke. It's serious, that does mean you can fun as per the gifts that God bestows.
This details the corruption and degeneration of peoples everywhere from the spiritual point of view. It lines up perfectly with our (or at least my) (((enemies))).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDjy_K9--Ls
Anonymous
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No.3766
HowToReadScript.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I606DH_F8qo
A primary preliminary for proper reading. I only found out, about 30 ish minutes ago.
Anonymous
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No.3767
3769
>>3763
>Why do godfags have so much anger towards the idea that they might be the ones who need to prove the evidence of God, when they have already made up their mind on the presence of any God?
>Do Christians not see the societal value of individual sovereignty and its role in shaping societal values for the better? Do they not think that's worth doing the work and endeavoring to raise their standards (or just shutting the fuck up for 10 minutes) instead of dedicating their lives to hounding and bullying and persecuting pagans however they can, no matter where they are found?
>If you're reading this you've probably been fucked over by a Jew at least once. If you're reading this you or someone you know has probably been fucked over by a Muslim at least once.
>You've seen for yourself how effortlessly the Christian community was pozzed and turned into feminist jewish "Christian+" bullshit. That's what happens when you lack a cohesive grounding for your morals during your formative years. Adults who say "I'm moral now so I don't need Emergence" aren't really adults, they're toddlers who deny the role living in a somewhat-society during their formative years had on their lives and morality.
Anonymous
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No.3768
3769 3782
>>3762
Admissible evidence would be a good start
Anonymous
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No.3769
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>>3767
>>3768
>shilling
Anonymous
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No.3771
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>>3769
>asking for evidence and exposing bullshit rhetoric is shilling
Fuck off thrall
Anonymous
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No.3772
3773 3782
>>3771
>asking for evidence and exposing bullshit rhetoric is shilling
Well, your purpose is not to look for evidence evidence but to subvert Christians, after all you already made your mind.
Anonymous
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No.3773
>>3772
>you're not looking for evidence!
I'm literally asking for it
>trying to subvert Christians!
You sound just like the SPLC when defending 'poor oppressed jews' against those pesky antisemites. Label me all you want, your arguments are horseshit, else you'd have responded to this >>3762
Anonymous
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No.3774
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>>3771
Are you considering that your world view is only fixed on the material world anon?
Perhaps that's the reason "Faith" is alien to you.
By the way, it is noteworthy how endless beings like you pick on Christians, but would never do the same on jews or muslims. Why it would be?
Anonymous
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No.3775
3776 3777 3782
>>3774
Faith is conjectural. There is no objectivity to faith hence it is spurious. Refute that.
And please, show me the proselytizing muslims on mlpol, I'll be glad to give them a riw
Anonymous
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No.3776
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>>3775
>Refute that.
Let me to derail you to the other side to the same coin >>>/vx/98688 →
Perhaps you may be more willing to accept the spiritual world when the dark side faces to you.
Also take a peak to >>3633 It is top notch stuff.
Anonymous
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No.3777
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>>3775
So it bothers you that Christians speak here, on this website in particular?
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No.3778
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>>3777
Checked.
Anonymous
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No.3779
3782
>>3776
>Perhaps you may be more willing to accept the spiritual world when the dark side faces to you.
This.
Anonymous
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No.3780
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>all this deflection
>>3776
>>3777
Completely immaterial. Golly misters, it's almost like when you cant defeat my argument you have to resort to rhetoric and evasion. (((Who))) does that sound like? But then Christianity IS a branch of the same tree as judaism so it's no small wonder.
>dark side faces you
Faith is no excuse for fear anon. If a man cant face the darkness of the world (and himself) with his own autonomy and integrity without resorting to mythological theoretical stories, he has no business attempting to sell his weakness to others under the dubious pretense of spreading auspices. Pious fraud is still fraud, even if its orator believes it entirely.
Anonymous
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No.3782
3784
Spoilered
>>3775
>Faith is conjectural
>a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing
>reasoning that involves the formation of conclusions from incomplete evidence
>to believe especially on uncertain or tentative grounds
That's completely and utterly false if anyone has faith. Not the hogwash that's been peddled for ages where someone kinda sorta believes, that can be a stepping stone, maybe. You can have faith that the Natural Law is in effect. So gravity, it is certain, while gravity can get really weird and bizarre.
Even more concretely a circle is a circle, or a square is a square. And 3 plus 2 is 5.
Such is the science of the not quite material world(s).
That's faith (at least in a meaningful sense) that what is known is true and has no doubt, because it's True and there is Zero Doubt.
<The current issue is explaining why it's true and why there is zero doubt.
>>3768
So I've said what kind of evidence do you want. When and where? Ect.
>>3769
>>3771
>>3772
>>3774
>>3776
>>3777
>>3779
There is one job is to provide explanation in such a way. Don't play footsy the heart of the matter lies in exploring deeper, because alot of people with highly refined grace and virtue have thought about it. Doesn't mean they're right, but it does mean it's been thought about. In such a way that learning from those techniques alone is useful.
>>3780
They understand that their wisdom comes from the fear of god. And the counter offer of application how to live well and good in all lives. That the blindness of man make comprehending such mysteries can only be done through the intellect that is holy. At least in such of that belief.
So I won't steal their stage.
Anonymous
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No.3784
3786 3787
>>3782
I already told you, admissible evidence would be a good start. Or how about empirical evidence? A square has very clearly defined and measurable attributes, namely 4 equal length sides and 4 90 degree angles. A circle is very clearly defined with measurable attributes, consisting of a constant curvature, and a consistent radius. It's plainly evident and measurable, should the individual wish to test the findings; faith doesnt apply.
>Truth and Zero doubt
Truth is not subjective and the absence of doubt is not evidence of truth. Absence of doubt is a result of EITHER comprehension of empirical evidence OR personal (authoritarian) conviction. Plenty of people have no doubt that the earth is flat. Plenty of people have no doubt that magical niggers can steal penises with curses. Absence of doubt does not meet any objective requirements for evidence, and the attempt to suggest otherwise is flaccid at best.
Anonymous
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No.3786
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>>3784
>I already told you, admissible evidence would be a good start.
Based upon what criterion? Who's to say what's admissible and what's not?

>Or how about empirical evidence? A square has very clearly defined and measurable attributes, namely 4 equal length sides and 4 90 degree angles. A circle is very clearly defined with measurable attributes, consisting of a constant curvature, and a consistent radius. It's plainly evident and measurable, should the individual wish to test the findings; faith doesnt apply.
That's not what's called empirical evidence. IIRC that's geometrical knowledge based upon mathematical proofs that themselves rest on agreed upon axioms of mathematics and logic.

>Truth is not subjective and the absence of doubt is not evidence of truth. Absence of doubt is a result of EITHER comprehension of empirical evidence OR personal (authoritarian) conviction.
A bold set of claims. Can you prove them?

>Plenty of people have no doubt that the earth is flat. Plenty of people have no doubt that magical niggers can steal penises with curses.
Who's to say it's not, and that they don't? All that evidence, what if it's just an illusion? What if someone told you something that was untrue? What if your senses and faculties are failing you? What if it's all just a simulation, and the real world is beyond our comprehension?

>Absence of doubt does not meet any objective requirements for evidence
As in a deductive proof? Seems we're a long way from that, friend. Besides, people don't change their minds based upon intellect as a general rule, that's been proven via empirical methods. It's really got more to do with intuition and how someone feels. Anything else and people just start to talk past one another. See picrelated if you would like to read up more.

>and the attempt to suggest otherwise is flaccid at best.
Sincerely, would you rather it be hard?
Prerequisite safety material warnings and suggestions is a must.
Anonymous
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File (hide): BD6C0A61E2BEBD301C3E224089C65C08-10587324.m4v (10.1 MB, Resolution:720x480 Length:00:02:05, _He_s Just Standing There, Menacingly_.mp4) [play once] [loop]
_He_s Just Standing There, Menacingly_.mp4
>>3784
Right that's why Faith is Truth AND Zero Doubt. Two separate categories. In one.
Now time for an experiment because if I just provide my findings that wouldn't be sufficient. The process though can have different means, so ceremonial is technically close but lacks the heart of the matter and isn't even the point...
Okay how about this
>if the order of seemingly inane movements of body, physical stuffs, (or spiritual stuffs), care, and thought are done in the correct way, then a repeatable result will be resulted barring outside influences or unaccounted factors.
>>>/vx/98688 →
Like all science you'll want saftey procedures first and for most. Or wing it like inventors... but the chance of something going horribly wrong increases alot. Having somesome who knows what they're doing would be good to have on standby, obtaining such help may take time.
If the safety (is too stifling it might not happen, if it could it would when all conditions are met. When ever and where ever.) and prerequisite materials and previous necessities are not there, that would make obtaining the desired truthful result difficult.
Such as using the large Hadron Collider, but using your body to catch the incredibly fast subatomic particles. You might be fine someone did that before.
So the means of detection is you, and something else material. Spiritual sense can be aquired or used as well.
>>>/vx/131622 →
My assertion is that I've seen my soul, and that you could summon a fraction of mine so you have evidence.
More importantly you have your soul.
So safety procedures.
Clean and clear work area.
Magic (or prayer, or will whatever) is the metaphorical paper.
The steps to be taken ready.
You do the thing.
Stuff happens.
Was the hypothesis sufficient? Did you find something new or previously unknown?

Now that you have a proverbial piece of paper and it's just sitting there menacingly doing nothing. You have to put it into action or just watch it.
Such as poking it (to determine various qualities and quantities), or fold it into a paper air plane.
Folding a terrible quality paper airplane would be pretty disappointing. If your going to be just poking the paper and examining it that'll be quite interesting. If you easily push it about and say it's not really there because it offers no resistance is a falsehood. If you can't detect it's being pushed about then you may have a problem or everything is going as expected.
So instead of paper per se, one might choose to have a significantly weighted object to poke and prod.
While this doesn't seem all that scientific this is more of the discovery phase. To determine the existence even if that is still up for debate at this stage.
Then one can go do stuff. Which is based on personal experiments, finding other's notes on their experiments, and importantly seeing it in action (or not) around you.
Remember safety and awareness, know the risks and what is possible.
Anonymous
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No.3788
3793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETJaEjbHkaU
Anonymous
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No.3789
Effective way to remove (if god commands them to stay, at least it'll irritate them) diabolic influence and to order yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afgtx1r5xVo
Anonymous
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ondTf36Z6I
'Member it ain't 'magic' it's God's command.
The whole point I'm even going this far, besides personal interest and insights in this kind of material, is that there are hostile forces and I'd quite like for friens to be safe and sound.
Anonymous
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No.3791
Demon worshippers are faggots
Anonymous
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No.3793
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>>3788
Checked.
Anonymous
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No.3794
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>>3787
>Faith and Zero Doubt
So, faith (conviction) and zero doubt (conviction). Congratulations, that's rationalized conviction. Conviction is not an argument, nor is it evidence of truth. Evidence doesnt require faith or interpretation, evidence is evident, hence the term. Thanks for the (you)s, but if evidence is insufficient to made evident a particular thing to a person who is not pre-conditioned/predisposed to an idea, then it's simply authoritarianism.
While I'm not an atheist (atheists are just as convicted to their ideology as you lot), this video will help to articulate some of the issues with trying to argue rhetorically (because if you're not using evidence, and your conclusions are based on interpretation, its rhetoric) when the opponent is arguing logically.
Not all my arguments are logical, but my insistence that if the Bible (not exclusively) is true, there will be evidence to support the conclusion IS

https://youtu.be/hprmo3CifJ0
Anonymous
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No.3795
3796
>>3794
Still looking for an angle. Huh?
Anonymous
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No.3796
3797 3798 3800 3801
>>3795
No, I'm looking for evidence
Anonymous
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>>3796
I would suppose there's none to be given, mate. A middle ground just doesn't appear to be present here.
Anonymous
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No.3798
3799 3801
>>3796
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
Anonymous
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No.3799
>>3798
>faith is evidence
>hebrews
Anonymous
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No.3800
>>3796
Evidence of what?
Anonymous
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No.3801
3802
>>3794
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I'm not one of them. Signing with them up is a one trip to hell and ensuring the devil is the ruler of the world, where they empower malicious spirits. Fuck that.
>>Faith and Zero Doubt
>Faith is Truth AND Zero Doubt
Most have no doubt, and not the truth as it's whole.
Faith is having no doubt about the truth. Fine faith is a charged word with misconceptions.
Wumbo is having Zero Doubt about Truth. That means there may be some truths out there still clouded in doubt, but that can be cleared away.
That also means having only zero doubt means irregardless of the truth or not, it doesn't matter.
Having Wumbo means Truth is known completely and totally in such a way the existence of doubt is nil.
The only reason why Wumbo is important is so you can make decisions that are wise, powerful, exact, and meaningful.
>>3796
I'm saying you could perform a series of actions that you can prove.
It's like the kid in school telling classmates of a tall tale in a video game. They'll say that's bs because it's just some guy saying so. So they can go back and check it out on their own game to see if it's a fib.
>>3798
Guess it's just Wumbo for me.
Anonymous
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No.3802
>>3801
>I'm not one of them
I apologie for the mistake.
>Faith is Truth AND Zero Doubt
The point of my statement was to emphasize that absent evidence, it's simply asserting a pre-determined conviction. To wit, the statement should read:
Conviction is theory and conviction. That is a true statement, but it doesnt validate the theory at all, and posturing as though it does is putting the cart before the horse.
Anonymous
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No.3803
3804 3805 3806 3807
Why do the "I won't literally believe in God until he comes down to me specifically and tells me to get my act together!" guys take things literally only when it suits them?

If you're looking at things rationally you'll note the societal benefits of religion. You'll notice damn near everything bad about religion can be blamed on the corrupt heads of organized religious churches, corrupt priests reinterpreting their religion to say whatever they want, and jews subverting the faith.
Christianity's only bad when it isn't done properly.
Can any other religion say the same?
Can any other religion call itself helpful to society with a straight face and honest heart?
This is why so many atheists fall back on repeating the stanzas and verses of their annoying theme song "Hurr durr sky fairy, hurr durr Family Guy and Simpsons is right about christianity, imagine worshipping an invisible man in the sky when you have no proof he exists, I'm such an enlightened skeptic unlike you". They have to repeat something not worth saying and focus on what makes them feel correct and morally right, so they can ignore how stupid bullying a religion for lacking proof is. It's like mocking a car for not flying. They aren't fucking supposed to, smartass. If you want to view the world through a rationalist lens, look at the purpose of a tool to understand why it was crafted. If you believe Mormonism and Scientology and Christianity each come from some mortal faggots who wrote books once, ask yourself what the creators of these proto-ideologies wanted to accomplish. The muslims wanted to motivate fellow muslims to rape and murder for islam. The scientologists want money and power. But Christianity? Think carefully on why Christianity was invented and if your answer is "because straight white male wanted to control women and society's sexuality" you aren't thinking hard enough because jews eyefucked you so hard in high school you ended up with brain damage. Feminists aren't people. Christianity was right about women.
Understand the purpose of a religion before you mindlessly bash it for being a religion.
When Muslims bomb and when Jews lie they're doing their religion properly. When the Yogafags are stretching or fucking or starving themselves or meditating atop corpses they're doing their religion properly. When crystalfags worship their woo-woo hippy new-age boomer shit like hypnosis and """energy""" (that's literally just The Force from Star Wars) or purchase overpriced supposedly-magical chakra healing crystals they're doing their religion properly.
Christianity helped the West achieve such incredible heights. Everything good about western civilization needed to be destroyed through successive generations of brainwashing and jewish infiltration before our society became the shitshow it is today. The peaks western civilization reached are unmatched around the world. Indians can't into space. Muslims can't invent anything besides dynamite vests and lies. Blacks lack culture and IQ. If all whites decided all religions are gay and there is no reason not to toss Jesus statues off cliffs and act like niggers, what would that do to the world?
News flash: Whenever Star Trek or Family Guy or Doctor Who shows you a better world with flying cars and no religion, a diverse multicultural commie paradise without money where everything is great, it's jews lying to you. That Family Guy scene where they go to Quahog except years more advanced because religion never existed? Chinese children in sweatshops animated those scenes. Faggots voice-acted those scenes. If you base your worldview on Family Guy and Star Trek and Doctor Who and The Big Bang Theory I don't want to know you and I don't think God could save you even if you wanted to be saved.
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No.3804
>>3803
Now THAT is ad hominem and strawmanning
Anonymous
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No.3805
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>>3803
Christianity is not reality-based belief, it sows confusion and sickness in Aryan minds. It was crafted by the Jews, for Jewish benefit, for goyim consumption. It harms my race and we don't need it to excel. Leave Jesus to the Jews.

Aryans will worship Aryan deity!
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No.3806
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>>3803
>I don't think God could save you even if you wanted to be saved
Ok, now you stepped over the line of insult to heresy.

>>3805
Welcome to the Bible study thread. You are welcome to read along. We are currently going over Revelation part by part to better understand the Scripture. I will do my best to answer any questions along the way. I am no scholar, but I do enjoy studying.

Another passage soon. I am typing it up now.
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No.3807
>>3803
>"I won't literally believe in God until he comes down to me specifically and tells me to get my act together!"
I know you were making fun of some people's position, but this is more or less how monergistic sects of Christianity, like the Reformed Tradition, believe that Human faith works.

>Christianity's only bad when it isn't done properly.
Not to disagree, but the way this is worded sounds like No True Scotsman. That doesn't make it wrong, but it needs much more explaining

>how stupid bullying a religion for lacking proof is
I think asking what "proof" is desired and using arguments for the existence of God or the historicity of Jesus may be more fruitful.

>Blacks lack culture and IQ
Ethiopia is one of the oldest Christian nations and cultures on the planet, perhaps only Armenia has been Christian for longer. An Ethiopian Eunuch and his conversion is mentioned in Acts 8.

>Star Trek... shows you a better world with flying cars and no religion
At least the Original Series of Star Trek is not Atheistic. In the episode "Who Mourns for Adonias?" after a supposed "Greek god" demands that Kirk worship him and the other supposed greek gods, Kirk replies with "We're fine with just the one," implying Kirk believes in the Christian God, or something similar.

>I don't think God could save you even if you wanted to be saved.
To insinuate that the blood of Christ is not sufficient to save is pretty clearly heretical to the Christian faith.
Anonymous
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No.3808
3810
Revelation 2:
18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. 26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. 28 And I will give him the morning star. 29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

This one is a bit more involved than the others. I will attempt to break it down. It opens with Jesus describing Himself as eyes of flame and feet of brass. This appears to be symbolizing light, both that Jesus emits it and He guides with it. His feet in the previous chapter were a glowing bronze, which I think means that his path is always lit. He can see where to go, and if you follow him, you cannot be lost.

Verse 19 causes quite a bit of confusion, leading most other translations to alter the phrasing because people get tripped over it so much. The verse repeats works twice, which is likely to emphasize that they do lots of works, and the verse ends with "and the last to be more than the first". Some translations put this as saying that the works they do now are much more than when they started. Though this makes sense, as it shows that they have not grown complacent in using their time in service to God. I personally disagree with this translation. I believe it to mean that the last of the people are made more than the first, as in what Jesus taught in Matthew 20:
25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. 26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever* will be great among you, let him be your minister; 27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: 28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

In other words, I think the verse is trying to say they work so much that the first among them are serving the least among them. I might be incorrect, but I think it makes more sense in relation to all things listed, and the last typically isn't used to describe the present.

Continuing on, we learn this church is allowing a woman that proclaims to be a prophetess. She teaches fornication as well as seduces the church members, as well as takes part in idol worship. God put up with it for a time, but, as the verses indicates, no longer. He sends her and those that are led away into a bed and they will suffer tribulation. I am thinking this might be some sort of disease, but it is not stated precisely. Her children will die with, as the verse says, death, which likely means they will die with no real explanation, leaving people to realize it is God's punishment for leading so many astray, that likely brought these children into the world.

The passage moves on to what is to happen to the rest that don't fall into Satan's devices, which is no extra burden. God will keep them if they follow his word and live by his example, putting themselves last. Those that are last, God will make first in His kingdom, which is why they are given power over the nations. They will rule with a rod of iron and will break the nations as clay pots into shivers, or the modern word most likely is, slivers. We we will come to learn, the nations are by no means blameless during the end of days.

The passage ends on one final promise. God will give them the morning star. I have pondered what this means a great deal, but I think it refers to the beginning of the passage as well as the end of this book. Revelation 22:
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Jesus is the morning star and will provide light and guidance. You can't miss Him, as His light shines above the rest. Finally, he that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Heed the words and follow the correction God gave to the churches and you will avoid destruction. Blessing may not come in this world, but they will be given in time. Our fight isn't to gain favor, but to bring glory to God in all that we do, as a witness to Him and all He has done for us.

Next time, we start chapter 3. More churches to go through and learn from. These next ones, at least in my opinion, hit harder as we come across a dead church, a faithful church, and a church that reflects us most closely, one that disgusts the Lord. And from there, things only get more interesting. I hope you will join this study and share your thoughts about the Scripture.
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Christians worship a jewish god.
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>>3805
>Leave Jesus to the Jews.
Actually Jews hate Jesus because called them out on their wicked ways.
>>3810
It's not working. Try again shill.
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>>3810
For practical purposes, Christ's magic works wonders over jewish's witchcraft. So any call to drop the Christian shield is nonsense.
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>They Dont Want You to Know These 17 Church Facts!
>These are never mentioned! A country is dead when the one institution that was the back bone is now gone into the hands of the devil's children. Churches literally preach that Bankers, Murderers, rapists, thieves, Liars, cons, Preachers, politicians, Media moguls, Teachers, and all purveyors of evil can no longer be Incarcerated, or criticized for their Lies and evil behavior!
Churches operate like a business and the IRS has the last word on what's preached.
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>>3814
>controlled Church
I just read the post >>>/mlpol/309063 → about an old school priest blasting degeneracy and going off script, then researching moar I found:

>Fr. Altman: You cannot be Catholic & a Democrat. Period. (Part I)
>Father James Altman calls out the hypocrisies of Church hierarchy and their destructive leftist politicization of the Catholic Church that has slapped faithful Catholics in the face and led many others astray. Altman also explains the basis of human nature and our purpose in life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-7eoTN2vNM
Mirror: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bj28dNkmaORD/

>Fr. Altman: Liberal Catholics are Wolves in Sheep's Clothing (Part II)
>Part II - Fr. James Altman doubles down in his widely anticipated follow up to the viral video "You Cannot Be Catholic & a Democrat" - which he maintains is the simple truth and a no-brainer statement. Altman discusses the "great tragedy" of the Church, and left-wing cancel culture - the bullying and socialist tactics used in opposition to him and other faithful Catholics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVt10eZMN1M

>Fr. Altman: Progressives = Socialists = Communists (Part III)
>Father James Altman discusses 167 years of warnings from the last TEN popes about the evils of socialism, and how the US is under relentless attack by socialists NOW who openly operate in our country under sweet-sounding names like liberty, justice, love, & equality - "nothing more than adjectives for human exaltation ... man-made 'rights.'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTasrnpbMpg
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>>3811
Jews hate Jesus because Christian creed is detrimental to the existence of Race, and jews value their race. I.e. the Jew hates the Christ to not swallow his own poison – Christianity.

>>3812
Christ sacrifice literally was Jewish blood sacrifice ritual. Jews sacrificed animals to purify from sins and jew again, which lasted for a year. But Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice, the blood of "divine being" was expected to bring eternal freedom from sin. Jesus was that goat upon which sins are ascribed, except he was fictional and had "divine blood". Also, he had royal Jewish blood from king David lineage, per his character sheet.

So, you're claiming that your deity Jesus is anathema of the Jews, yet he was of the Jews blood, soul and also benefited Jews. I hate you.
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>>3820
>Christ sacrifice literally was Jewish blood sacrifice ritual.
Nope.
The sacrifice ritual is present way before jews and prevalent among ancient cultures. It is the magical mechanism of how this realm works. We material beings are part of the food chain.
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>>3821
It's both.
>It is the magical mechanism of how this realm works.
No, that's how bribery and essentially how the magical mafia works.
>We material beings are part of the food chain.
Your point being?
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>>3822
I should have clarified. I'm disagreeing with your proposition and implications.
There is a commodity and resources in humanity that all sorts of beings desperately covet.
In honest, kind, and fair transactions I could (and I am) freely associate and reciprocate with generosity.
So flip the table over turn the unjust rulings and be the better man in every aspect as an Übermench in continual improvement. Do what needs and ought to be done. There is always a way.
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>>3822

New memetic structure has been formed i suggest you check
if you wanna understand the whole "beast magic" and inner workings (mostly of ""sin"")

https://memeanalysis.com/myth
https://memeanalysis.com/conspiracy
>a lot there
Between the lines of truth and imagined truth.
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>>3824
Meme Analysis dude is a lefty and an occultist. I watched some of his stuff it's not perfect, but it's good enough to be somewhat effective.
His apolitical analysis is for his background and experience not bad. It could be considered good except for the limited reality he's surrounded by.
So he's not quite wrong, but he's not quite right and that's the big problem.
The archetypes and myths he's pulling from are dangerous and is a very real threat. The issue is interpretation and it's a blend of truth and warped reality perceptions.
For a quick guide it's deadly much akin to (((hidden hand))) operations. It's good enough, truthful enough, and quick.
It makes perfect complete sense if you're on the (((right side of history))) assholes.
In that it's dangerous in real life that the world is shifting away from reality and perceptions. But it'll explain away 'the enemy'.

The biggest problem as I've said it's not complete and doesn't have a gestalt of the whole picture.
>pic of iceberg meme
That's the sad part is that it's not one must be in sound mind and spirit and body to use the work for its unintended value. A damned (as in will definitely fuck you over of it can) guide that for all intents and purposes is just temping enough. Because there is real value to be gained and learned.
It's incomplete. It offers no direct solutions. What it does do is make a map and checklist.
Then the devil is in the details, inbetween the lines.
As a point of self reflection it's still a poisoned withering double edged sword.

Good work on the website. Could be better, but frankly for its (creator's) intended purpose it's enough.
Be aware, be self reflective and ensure you keep track of what is going into your mind. And if anything is going on.
>New memetic structure has been formed i suggest you check
if you wanna understand the whole "beast magic" and inner workings (mostly of ""sin"")
That's a proto memetic structure. The ""sin"" are for all intents and purposes is better expressed in other means and waters down the goings on around the world, and nearby.
For non-copy right infringement 'myth' it's just not complete.
The fullness of the topics is lacking which lead to its detriment. It could be much more.
As it is it demands attention itself and energy.
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John 1
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Jesus' death did not benefit the Jews in the way you suggest, as it would be the end of their order, their control, as they would have to give it all over to Him and be co-owners of eternal life with all who believe. This is something they could never accept, which is part of the reason they could not allow His message proceed, as it would destroy their religious order of control of who rises in society and who is barred from religious services, making profit of the worship of God, something Christ drove them out for.

However, you claim this means that there can be no race and Christianity is a poison for giving allowance for all who believe to be saved. So I will assume that your own religion or lack there of my never be shared with anyone outside your race, or this would be a massive flaw in your logic, as the Bible has many verses for both cooperation of races and at the same time, division and identity, such as God commanding that man separate and not form a unified singular nation under Babel, not allowing people to infiltrate, to be in the world and not of the world, to serve and to not bring in more than two tongues in a single church.

Your misunderstanding of what Christianity is by media and manipulation of ages of corruption, which is certainly something that we must correct, for the standard representative of what a Christian is these days is nothing that stands apart from the globalist horde. Regardless, I think you likely know your argument is built on particularly little but the actions of the mindless masses that claim ownership of something they don't even understand.

I hope you join our journey through Revelation. I'm sure we will find all sorts of interesting things as we go. As for your hate, I hope by the end, you might turn that around to where it should be, the ones that wish us all dead and bound to the corrupting forces of this world.
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>Life is Struggle (Extended) - (HD)
https://odysee.com/@TheFascifist:c/Life-is-Struggle-(Extended):b
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>The Prophesy of Sajara
I believe that is related to the pagan Kali Yuga which is related to The Bible's Revelations.
Sorry the off topic OP.
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I have no idea what this Prophecy of Sajaha is or what it is referring to with Sargon. It looks to contain some wordings used in Revelation, but it is not part of the canon of the Bible. Though you may still gain some use from extra-biblical texts, they are not inspired and may contain anywhere from flaws to lies to heresy. Best be careful.

Already I can see one direct contradiction from the provided text. It states that the bodies of the dead will be piled into pyramids and burned, which is not what the Bible states.

Revelation 19
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

The slain will be devoured by birds. Whatever this text is, it clearly is only inspired by reading end time prophecies and not the direct inspiration of God.
>>3830
Most likely this. I need to look into more pagan tradition and religion as often it has at least a touch of familiarity, having branched off of or assimilated biblical information.
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1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. 2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. 3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. 4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Here we begin with the church that is dead, but has a name that they are alive. This most likely refers to that they were known for being an upstanding church or at least had a reputation in the community, or even that they just claimed the name of a body of believers that they were never really modeled after, but now that name for themselves is all they have. Being dead here means to be apart from God, that they don't have anything really to do with God at all, being more of the world and the religions around them. God commands them to keep the few things about them that do remain around God before they are dead as well, for their works aren't perfect, complete and righteous unto God.

Jesus then reminds of the theme He continuously brings up. His return is as a thief in the night. You have no way of ever knowing today is the day you are robbed. It happens at night, when you are tired. It happens when it is most likely to surprise you, when you think everything is normal. Jesus makes this analogy many times, which reinforces that it is to be understood and emphasized.

Even with the church falling apart, Jesus mentions that there are still a few there that are not corrupted. They that overcome will be clothed in white, showing that they are made pure by the mercy of God, and their names will not be blotted out of the book of life, instead they are confessed to God that they are forgiven. And here comes the research on what this means.

Does having your name blotted out mean that someone can lose salvation through being dead in Christ? This will spoil a couple things we will get into later in Revelation, but it is important to understand this now rather than to be confused for months before I get around to covering it. I have a couple of references in Scripture to prove losing salvation is not the case, so let's begin. First order of business is what is this book of life? It is the book that contains all the names of everyone that may live, not to be cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

It says according to their works still, so could that mean that someone could be good and make it in the book or be bad and be left out? Let's explore more to find out. How does one not get in the book? Anyone that sins is removed from the book.

Exodus 32
31 And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. 32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin-; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. 33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

We learn from here that God will blot your name out if you sin. You also can't barter with God to trade a human life for a life. As we know, it takes the divine trade of Jesus to do that.

Romans 6
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 21 What* fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. 22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

But how come doing good things isn't enough? What if you never sin?

Romans 3
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
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4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him. 5 Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved. 6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. 7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.

Following the law does no good, as it's purpose was to reveal your sin. For all the works that you may do in the name of righteousness, it is as filthy rags. No one can save themselves. All have sinned. But if all have sinned, how come there are names on the book that are blotted out?

James 2
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

John 3
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Romans 5
6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

These verses reveal that the world might be saved, meaning that all the people in the world are written in the book. Those that sin will have their names blotted out, and the works of their life judged for they are recorded in the books around Jesus. Those works, as we learned, no matter how great, are still tainted by sin, and thus all who are not found in the book, as they are blotted out by sin, will be cast into the lake of fire. That means all of us are destined for that fate if it wasn't for Jesus, who died in our place and rose from the dead. He confesses our names to God to not be blot out, that we are spared from our fate.

I believe that sums up the book of life pretty well. The final note would be, how can a church be dead? It is filled with those in sin and unbelievers. We reach the verse that splits a lot of people up, but it is important to understand how a church is dead.

James 2
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

This verse clearly lines out that faith alone can't save you, which would render everything I posted null and void without understanding what the passage means. We already established that what we do is evil to God, but what God commands you to do is what makes your faith perfect, complete as it is meant to be. If Abraham told God, yep, I believe you, but I'm not going up that mountain to kill my kid, then what use is that faith? When you believe the Word of God, your life is changed. We go back to what is a work, which is your life, what you do, not just a specific kind of deed. Giving to charity does not save you, but a person that claims to be Christian that is never charitible is likely not saved at all, as is revealed to us through Scripture.
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14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

The Holy Spirit compells you to do good works, to live right with God, and to hate the fruit of the world. You are dead if you have no works. You just know the name of God, and you aren't His own. You are as the false preachers, that know all about God, they likely even believe He exists, but they aren't saved.

Matthew 7
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot* bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them*, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

This ties back to the devils, or demons, James mentions, that believe in Jesus, yet aren't saved. Salvation is something only you and God can know between yourselves. You know if you are saved if you believed in the Lord. Nothing you do can save you from your fate. After salvation, your heart is changed.

II Corinthians
4 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Therefore, if you are saved, you will obey God. You will still sin in this body, as I can testify to. You will never be perfect as all you are is still flesh, still tied to the world, still tempted by the devil. But you will also now have the fruit of the spirit, you can pray to God for wisdom, understanding, and help to show yourself more fruitful, to make your works perfect in Him. In essence, your faith allows you to do works which makes your faith perfect. Again, there is no measure of what works to do, because that isn't what the verse is saying. You don't do x good things to please God, you simply believe and do what God commands, the good works are set out in the Bible, the fruit of the spirit. That is what keeps you and the body of Christ alive.

That was a longer one, but I feel like that was a great look at everything you can learn from just a short passage.
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>>3843
Glad to have you back.
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something I thought of from this discussion; God is very patient with us and holds off on punishment and judgement, in order to win us over to repentance and obedience.

Also it's super neat how God writes His ways into our hearts as we walk with Him more and more. It really is Jesus changing us when it's deeply rooted sins which He helps us overcome. Always keep fighting and know that it's ok to mess up a lot, as long as you're fighting to move forward. The righteous man falls seven times and rises again.
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I am going through some struggles right now with a family member. If you keep him in your prayers, that would be very kind right now.

Revelation 3
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; 8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Here we find Jesus talking to the church in Philadelphia. The name comes from the root of love as one has for a brother, making it a fitting name for a church that is faithful unto God. He says what He opens, no man can shut, and what He shuts, no man can open. The immediate parallel most make is opportunity opening and closing, but it is much more than that. It is all events in the world. Nothing happens that catches God off guard because He opened the way and closes anything that may not be. Here we see that the works of the church are known and so God opens up something that can not be undone by any force of the world. For they had a little strength and had not denied God, He set up for them a great mission. The synagogue of Satan will come and worship before them, for they will understand that the love of God is with the church and not themselves.

The reward for keeping the faith is being kept from the hour of temptation, that tries them that dwell on the earth. This refers to what the rest of Revelation will cover, the rise of the antichrist, who tempts the world into worship of the dragon, Satan. They will have no part in the coming disaster. Just like the previous church, they are instructed to hold on to what they have. To those that overcome, they are made the pillar in the temple of God, meaning they are what hold it up, and they won't leave it. They will also have the name of God written on them, which is the counter to the antichrist, which will have his name or his number written on those that serve him. Jesus then reveals what will be covered in more detail at the end of the book, New Jerusalem. Finally, Jesus reveals that they will also bear His new name, which also will be covered towards the end of the book.

I must apologize for the quality of this post. I might return to it later with more references and Scripture to back up different lessons you can take from this passage, but I couldn't get it all worded just right this time, so I omitted it for now. Perhaps I will have a clear head and a better study for next time. Until then, thank you for sticking with me so far.
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It's weird that Divorce makes a more permanent connection between two adults than Marriage.

What does The Bible have to say on marriage, divorce, and how adult relationships are supposed to function?
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Hey what's with that Romans part of the bible where God says a government must be obeyed?

An obnoxious atheist I know mentioned it.
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>>4399
Of course, a government and employees submitting to The People. Not the other way around.
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>>4399
The Social Contract is broken and the legacy administration is reaching the end of its tenure.
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>>4399
Are you referring to the 'render unto caesar' bit?
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How do I BTFO the atheist cunt who won't shut up about the Bible's "Render unto caesar" stuff?
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>>4399
>Hey what's with that Romans part of the bible where God says a government must be obeyed?
Check the following out cuck.

>Christian Theory of Resistance to Tyranny
>Biblical examples of resisting illegitimate demands of legitimate governments.
>Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Moses, Peter, Paul.
>Need a religious exemption to Covid? Watch this video.
>Christian culture provides built-in anti-bodies to tyranny.
https://tv.gab.com/channel/cybertext/view/resisting-tyranny-biblical-examples-6161ffe3f025a17fe73ecc31
Mirrors:
https://rumble.com/vnj2sj-christian-theory-of-resistance-to-covid-tyranny.html
https://www.brighteon.com/a1439966-880d-49f2-b06f-98d9a072693e
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>>4412
Thanks bro!

What's the "Whore of Babylon/Daughter of Babylon" stuff about in the Bible?
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>>4412
Jews and Muslims would love that kind of resistance by mass extermination of Christians.
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>>4430
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>>4430
whose side are you on
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>>4431
Yes.
>>4432
To be fair standing for what you believe is good advice. It's the how it's gone about, as a legal stand point that is a perfectly legal fine answer for illegal laws.
The side that wants a better future for good people despite the world being The Serpant's (according to The Bible, which is also subservient under God).
Passively accepting mass murder by turning around and laying down sounds like a terrible plan.
Granted if everyone was on the same page that wouldn't occur in the first place due to nobody committing to actions against the All Mighty Lord.
And granted they are technically easily intimidated.
But they also go into hiding as easily as they lie.
Further more doing the spiritual working through the physical for the spiritual is fine as a plan as that what the idealized Christianity is about.

Doing as Jesus has done, yet also the old testament and pic related has worked along side the soft all pervasive part for a time.
t. uneducated semi-Christian pagan cuck
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I think the best thing that can be done right now is to spread the truth.
I dream of a world where everyone knows jet fuel can't melt steel beams AND Hitler did nothing wrong.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujeyk7skHO0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt4SgtOZVMM