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Bible Study Thread
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IIT we discuss and study the Bible. I will be using the King James Version and will take the stance of a fundamental literalist, which is a bit redundant, but these days there exist many that claim to be fundamental but reject the literal interpretation of Scripture when they encounter something they don't agree or understand. I am not a Bible scholar, I'm not a pastor, I don't currently attend any denomination's church service. I'm just an anon that really like to study the Bible. Feel free to argue with me, I could be completely wrong and I hope to learn more about the Bible along the way.

I will post below my first study topic and what I have researched about it. Hopefully it will be interesting and somewhat engaging.
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Anonymous
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>I attempted to spur discussion in the paganism thread, but to no avail.
No wonder why. Paganism is dead in the West.
NOT OP
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For today's bible study, we are going to begin (and likely not end) the book of Proverbs.
The idea behind this selection is that by starting with Ecclesiastes, we're establishing the underlying theory behind the moral framework the Bible offers, before getting into the gospels and all the rest.
For context, this is coming from one who has read the bible a few decades ago to in a comparative religion sense. The point wasn't trying to grasp the Bible, as much as identify what consistencies there were between it and the founding texts of many other traditions.
In this case, the intent IS to grasp the Bible, and OP (who has VASTLY more knowledge of Christendom) will be monitoring.
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Apologies OP, fell asleep. Will gather thoughts and post analysis in a bit
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Please pardon my absence of comment, I'm still going through proverbs
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>>8355
If it is desired to discuss Solomon, then we must apply proper context. Solomon was a metaphysician who had the Authority to command what was contemporaneously referred to as Daemon, which can be said to include Angels, Demons, Devils, Djinn, and Fay. Somehow, one assumes a lack of interest in having that discussion ITT.
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>>8389
I didn't say "do his will", I said "command"; Jesus is attributed to display the same (or comparable) Authority. Metaphysicist (I said Metaphysician out of habit, they're slightly different) is one who is scient (or knowledgeable) in the hidden signs and secrets of magic; the ones that a certain faction of angels fell into ignominy for sharing.
If you are unfamiliar with the Key of Solomon, I'll be happy to provide resources.
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>>8389
Point of emphasis, while I appreciate that you religious fags LOVE to get all sanctimonious about what you perceive individuals to have been, when SOME people read "Bible study" they think "I'm gonna read, study, and think about what is written in the bible". What they AREN'T signing up for is page after page of additional reading that ostensibly is A. true and B. contributes to the comprehension of the material which it doesn't, it only contributes to the degree of fascination of the reader.

Protip: leave the sanctimoniousness for the 301 lessons, this is 101. Or isn't it? Am I in the wrong room?
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>101 and 301
Clearly Im in tje wrong place. I guess I should have stuck to the library
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Man I haven't posted on this in a while; in fact, I haven’t posted on this site this year, so I just wanted to say God bless, and I hope you all have a happy new year, and you will be in my prayers tonight. Good night Sleep tight
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>>8394
Let me better explain what I mean. The Bible is an intimidating read on it's face. To a person who hasn't been reading it for decades, it is already quite complicated enough. My intention ITT - appreciating that you're OP - is to read the bible book by book until completion, analyzing each book in isolation. AFTER that, I'll be happy to start jumping through the "turn now to this book/section" stuff, but a foundational understanding of 'who is said to have said/done what and when' is MY first intention. And, while there's undoubtedly plenty to be gleaned from an investigation of Solomon the figure (both what is written and what has been removed Xp), there is enough wisdom in Proverbs that one can glean plenty without emphasizing the cross-refenced nature of the whole of the Bible.
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No, it's like reading the Proverbs of Solomon without worrying AT THE GATE who Solomon was. Thats a false equivalence to suggest it's like reading a story of the Civil War without understanding all the rest. I'M SAYING WE'LL GET TO THAT, and no I'm not trying to hijack the intent/direction of the thread, but I am explaining why I want to beat you with a newspaper right now.
>starting with algebra
Metaphysics is more like advanced Calculus than algebra, and yes, I do come into this knowing advanced Calculus. So please pardon if I want to thoroughly familiarize myself with the "addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division" of all this, which pardon me for saying seems to be the CONTENT OF THE INDIVIDUAL BOOKS THEMSELVES, after which we can get into the algebra.
Let me be clear. I know many of the seals of Solomon. Let's just stick to proverbs, or rather pardon me while I do.
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Meant for
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He also emphasizes that the fear of the Lord and hating knowledge is how come they can’t obtain it. It is shown as the source of the wisdom that would prevent the calamity that dooms those, like Rehoboam, to suffering needlessly. He finishes this section by stating that those that despise reproof or being told something that convicts of wrong doing, will do as they please, filled with their own devices. But this will end up killing them and destroying what they have, again foretelling of the disaster that Rehoboam would cause, beginning the Israeli civil war and setting in motion many events that led to the Jewish problem we have today.
In other words, a large amount of our suffering is because one guy refused to listen to his dad. Thanks Rehobama.

More lessons to follow. I hope you enjoy.
Anonymous
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>>8413
*SIGH*
Have you ever watched a movie for the first time, alongside someone who has watched it dozens of times and "doesn't want you to miss out on the nuance" and ends up bombarding you with details that actually ruins the experience?
That's what's happening right now.
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I know (you) bible-fags think you're helping, but you aren't. You're making it worse for people who are on the fence and are tentative. Consider holding off on the authoritarian cock, that's why most people avoid Christiandom in the first place. Not here to be lectured at, thank you.
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>>8447
>That's why most people avoid Christiandom in the first place.
Most people✝ avoid the Christian lifestyle because they were raised by a culture and a religion the explicitly prohibits and goes against Christian train of thought.

✝While their humanity is up for debate, "People" in this case does include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and Chinese who make up a majority of the world's population
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>>8449
So your position is "The faithful are wrought only of those brought up in the fold"?
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Thats metaphysically Muslim, in scope
>Oh we don't want to actually KILL and RAPE people, we just want to imagine them getting killed and raped in the afterlife.

That's not what Jesus - not his name btw - was about
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>>8451
My position is that you are massively gay for clicking "New Reply" before finishing your post, then continuing it in another reply to force the thread to the bump limit.

This isn't Discord. Slow down.
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>>8452
You seem to think I care what your position is. My position remains unspoken.
>force the bump limit
Nigger, I'll rebake the bread. Do you not know where you are? This is /ub/. When was the last time a thread slid? Fuck off with your "slow down". I say "Speed up"
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Pardon the argumentative tone, theres no malice or aggression to any of this.
I give the example of a movie because to my understanding the Bible is intended to be a series of stories meant to individually convey wisdom beyond purely a literal sense, but has to be experienced from all levels of 'status' shall we say - beginning as the fool and rising to the Heirophant (in this case). In case of Proverbs, they individually teach sound wisdom, but there's an underlying message about personal sovereignty. Without having finished Proverbs, my comments are being withheld, but likely this weekend.
>Jesus' name
At the risk of being contentious, I have it on good faith
<'E means 'e cannae fookin' ramember whayre 'e fookin' 'eard it, eet was fookin 2012
.. that his name was Yodheshuvauhe, but that's definitely not a biblically-sourced (including biblical archeology) position
Anonymous
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A series of stories, yes. But we didn't start with the first story, so it is like walking into the movie part way and not wanting to know who the hero or villain is. You can ignore them, but you are going to lose parts that are needed to be able to build wisdom with, such as that this book is a series of things that would benefit you to listen to with to the degree that the person who is telling us is a master of wisdom both by gift and experience and the one that heard it didn't listen destroyed a whole kingdom. That is how you begin to build off of what is written. It isn't just nice sayings. It was life or death for the one that the writer wanted to reach but couldn't. Now we see that the intent of the text isn't to demean, but an attempt to preserve life and to cherish it.

>his name was Yodheshuvauhe
Never heard of it before. I guess I will do some exploring to see if there is any text that references this to cross-reference with the Bible and we can set up some lessons on that as well.
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Yodheshuvauhe is not the 'correct spelling' it's a phonetization, because He is spoken of in - iirc - sumerian tablets
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The point of emphasis of the videographer was that in the sumerian texts, they use a phrase to refer to a prophet to come, who's name will be - in their language (so not meaning YHSVH) - YHSVH.
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I couldn't find what you were referring to so far. I did look up Sumerian gods to see if it came up, but I can't find it so far. Unless I am overlooking it, I searched through the wiki of Sumerian gods and couldn't find it. I did find interesting ones that have gnostic parallels, possibly inspiring some of the gnostic texts, so that might be interesting to go over sometime.
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*tips fedora*

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