tl;dr: post shit about how to machine or manufacture shit here. Being able to make shit makes you more of a man with bigger balls.
Lets start on the political side of manufacturing with a USA centric theme.
Once upon a time, USA was the best. It was the best because it allowed anyone to build anything they wanted and purchase anything they wanted. After all, things you own are tools, and tools are needed to survive. Why should the government put any kind of restrictions on tools needed to survive?
Well, over the years, that is exactly what they did, because the more difficult it is for you to survive with less (or incorrect) tools. The more difficult of a time you have surviving, and the less you can do something about the government.
The greatest of all these is the ability to make more tools or better tools. In the modern vernacular, this is called machining, manufacturing, fabricating, and a lot of others that are more industry specific. I suppose the second greatest ability is to be able to protect such things, but that is outside the scope of this shitpost.
Why is the ability to build [tools] important? Because it lets you, the invisible hand, be able to swiftly deal with governments (problems) how you see fit in ways that nobody can anticipate. Why do you think policies being pushed through has been moving businesses over seas? The government does not want you to know how to make shit. Workers unions have not been nice either, but as near as I can tell that is the result of a different symptom (greed). In either case, bureaucracy is a hindrance to market (you: the invisible hand’s) agility.
I could rant about all the stupid shit in various markets that result in what I already said, but instead I’d rather focus on shit that will make a better life for you. In general, focusing on the use of lathe and mill work. Lets start with the stupid basics.
Example of CNC lathe in use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGHtI9Lql4
Example of CNC mill in use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHstzxuryMk
Admittedly both examples are with machines that are a bit fancier than what might be typically found, but that does not change anything other than how many times a part is handled before it is finished.
Using a lathe is called turning a part. Using a mill is called milling a part. Turning and milling parts, along with some of the more exotic methods of cutting material (such as waterjet or EDM or centerless grinding machines), is called machining.
While I don’t follow the religion of safety (the reason why ppl are so worried about C-19 to begin with), there are certain things shat should be done or not done to keep all your limbs attached to your body. Things like leaving the chuck key in and walking away. Or wearing a long sleeve shirt and reaching around the quill of the mill while its on. Don’t be a dumbass and instead use that head attached to that white neck of yours.
What I’d like to do from time to time is post in here about various machining and manufacturing practices, tips, tricks, and methodology at large.
Remember though, its not about me, its about giving you the knowledge and tools to become richer yourself. If you have a question or something related, go ahead and post it.
/ub/ - Überhengst
Becoming better
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>>4552
>aircrete
Just mix eggs into it. Or if you want to be /vx/, blood. Either rot quickly and release gas, foaming it up.
Doesn't do well for mortar, though, because it ruins repairability - mortar should always be weaker than the bricks it's binding so in a pinch you can remove and replace it, and the super-strong cement mortars you can get with eggs and pozzolana won't be removable.
>>4691
That's pretty accurate. There always comes the time when you think you're knowledgeable and experienced, get careless, don't follow the safety procedures, and boom! At least it's an opportunity to literally write the rules in blood.
>aircrete
Just mix eggs into it. Or if you want to be /vx/, blood. Either rot quickly and release gas, foaming it up.
Doesn't do well for mortar, though, because it ruins repairability - mortar should always be weaker than the bricks it's binding so in a pinch you can remove and replace it, and the super-strong cement mortars you can get with eggs and pozzolana won't be removable.
>>4691
That's pretty accurate. There always comes the time when you think you're knowledgeable and experienced, get careless, don't follow the safety procedures, and boom! At least it's an opportunity to literally write the rules in blood.
>>5165
>unless you really like gazing at other men's wood
Ive been known no homo to admire other men's wood. Purely a professional gesture tho
>I don't want someone with the resources and autism calling my customers to tell them what a spectacular Nazi horsefucker I am
Ah, we differ in that regard, Im quite looking forward to someone trying. To qualify that, I have enough business that I can be choosy about who I do work for, and all of my current business contracts have already listened to more than one rant about the jews. Technically, my clients are as much friends as they are customers, so its not a traditionally 'professional' arrangement, but yeah. Come at me doxfags.
>>5266
>blood
Fukking based
>unless you really like gazing at other men's wood
Ive been known no homo to admire other men's wood. Purely a professional gesture tho
>I don't want someone with the resources and autism calling my customers to tell them what a spectacular Nazi horsefucker I am
Ah, we differ in that regard, Im quite looking forward to someone trying. To qualify that, I have enough business that I can be choosy about who I do work for, and all of my current business contracts have already listened to more than one rant about the jews. Technically, my clients are as much friends as they are customers, so its not a traditionally 'professional' arrangement, but yeah. Come at me doxfags.
>>5266
>blood
Fukking based
Hey /ub/ ever had to clear a large plot of land in a short time? Dont have a brush hog?
Put a metal-cutting cirxular sawblade and put it on a weed eater. This thing is beefy enough to cut through up to 4" stumps in seconds. Quit trying the weed eater, you'll just break your line on sticks and shit.
When you do, it is advised that you hold the foregrip as normal, but with your operating hand, pull the weed eater so that it is in constant contact with the full length of your right arm. Then, lock the device against your hip.
This will give you an incredible amount of control, enough to compensate for any time the device kicks out so u dont cut ur toes off. heaven knows Ive already cut enough off already.
In this configuration, one can cut down rough, uneven, stick ridden, unkempt mess at just below the speed of standard weed eating.
Put a metal-cutting cirxular sawblade and put it on a weed eater. This thing is beefy enough to cut through up to 4" stumps in seconds. Quit trying the weed eater, you'll just break your line on sticks and shit.
When you do, it is advised that you hold the foregrip as normal, but with your operating hand, pull the weed eater so that it is in constant contact with the full length of your right arm. Then, lock the device against your hip.
This will give you an incredible amount of control, enough to compensate for any time the device kicks out so u dont cut ur toes off. heaven knows Ive already cut enough off already.
In this configuration, one can cut down rough, uneven, stick ridden, unkempt mess at just below the speed of standard weed eating.
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>pic related
To think about it.
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>>6039
Those roads weren't subjected to cars, let alone lorries. Of course old timey roads handle old timey challenges better.
Those roads weren't subjected to cars, let alone lorries. Of course old timey roads handle old timey challenges better.
>>6039
>Without a single degree
Those roads were made by brilliant stonemasons and guildsmen who trained for their entire lives perfecting their crafts, many of which born into trade families with generations of familial experience.
It wasn't college, but it was an equivalent level of long-term training and education.
>Without a single degree
Those roads were made by brilliant stonemasons and guildsmen who trained for their entire lives perfecting their crafts, many of which born into trade families with generations of familial experience.
It wasn't college, but it was an equivalent level of long-term training and education.
>>6081
looks like the oil drain plug on a car engine... and either over tight, or somebody hit a rock or something, cracked the oil pan, and it finally broke with the next oil change. the oil drain plug is the lowest part, so plausible enough that it wasn't just over-tightened
Sorry guys I haven't been posting nearly as much as I'd like to. There are tons of machining things I'd like to cover, such as the different kinds of taps there are (plug, spiral point, hand, spiral flute, forming...), typical CNC lathe and mill commands, uncommon CNC machine programming practices, some pictures of some trashed tools from big mistakes that other people made that I collected and how to avoid doing such things yourself, and probably a lot more.
There just isn't enough time in the day
Thank you ninjas for helping the thread out too, pretty sure everyone (including me) learned a bunch from your hard-wood posting. Everyone likes looking at it I think.
looks like the oil drain plug on a car engine... and either over tight, or somebody hit a rock or something, cracked the oil pan, and it finally broke with the next oil change. the oil drain plug is the lowest part, so plausible enough that it wasn't just over-tightened
Sorry guys I haven't been posting nearly as much as I'd like to. There are tons of machining things I'd like to cover, such as the different kinds of taps there are (plug, spiral point, hand, spiral flute, forming...), typical CNC lathe and mill commands, uncommon CNC machine programming practices, some pictures of some trashed tools from big mistakes that other people made that I collected and how to avoid doing such things yourself, and probably a lot more.
There just isn't enough time in the day
Thank you ninjas for helping the thread out too, pretty sure everyone (including me) learned a bunch from your hard-wood posting. Everyone likes looking at it I think.
This is based mastery, no doubt about it.
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>>6103
>and either over tight, or somebody hit a rock or something, cracked the oil pan, and it finally broke with the next oil change
No way. That's the aftermath of a catastrophic engine failure and someone must've thought it would be funny to take a picture with the wrench on the drain plug. A grade 4.8 bolt would've broken off well before the oil pan.
>and either over tight, or somebody hit a rock or something, cracked the oil pan, and it finally broke with the next oil change
No way. That's the aftermath of a catastrophic engine failure and someone must've thought it would be funny to take a picture with the wrench on the drain plug. A grade 4.8 bolt would've broken off well before the oil pan.
>>6112
>That's the aftermath of a catastrophic engine failure
It might very well be that. The edges look like the result of an internal explosion tearing apart the pan in a thousand pieces.
>That's the aftermath of a catastrophic engine failure
It might very well be that. The edges look like the result of an internal explosion tearing apart the pan in a thousand pieces.
>>6103
I'ma be perfectly honest with you. I left the site about a month ago, and am only here for the moment out of morbid curiosity.
If you're too busy to post, you're doing it right. Mlpol could have been alot of things, but it will never realize them because of the incompetence and duplicity of staff.
Wanna never amount to anything in life? Mlpol is a good place to make that happen. Nothing against ponies, but this place has been trash for a very long time, and I hope (you) specifically grow out of it. Peace.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Q5TAV3DME14?feature=share
I'ma be perfectly honest with you. I left the site about a month ago, and am only here for the moment out of morbid curiosity.
If you're too busy to post, you're doing it right. Mlpol could have been alot of things, but it will never realize them because of the incompetence and duplicity of staff.
Wanna never amount to anything in life? Mlpol is a good place to make that happen. Nothing against ponies, but this place has been trash for a very long time, and I hope (you) specifically grow out of it. Peace.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Q5TAV3DME14?feature=share
>>6124
>Ninjas
That is utter bitterness. Take your time fren, (we) are waiting for your return.
Signed: Poner.
>Ninjas
That is utter bitterness. Take your time fren, (we) are waiting for your return.
Signed: Poner.
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>>6124
I really hope you change your mind. In all honesty, pointless endeavors do exist within this site. But I think there's plenty to post and do. Just don't feel pressured to post if you don't have time to spare, or wanna spend it in something else.
At any rate, wish you luck in whatever you are up to. And if you truly must leave, take the pony with you.
I really hope you change your mind. In all honesty, pointless endeavors do exist within this site. But I think there's plenty to post and do. Just don't feel pressured to post if you don't have time to spare, or wanna spend it in something else.
At any rate, wish you luck in whatever you are up to. And if you truly must leave, take the pony with you.
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>Catastrophic failure at an aluminum extrusion line. Looks like an overpressure event and the oil itself (over a drop ceiling no less) open a portal to a demon dimension…
- One second from the hydraulic failure to start of fire.
- ~9 seconds after the fire started he returned to the desk.
- ~5 seconds after that the desk was splattered with molten aluminum and on fire.
- ~24 seconds after the fire started for everything to turn into a hellscape with collapsing ceiling tiles, which was ~13 seconds after he returned to the desk.
If that doesn’t tell you to GTFO instantly if a fire starts in an enclosed space, nothing will. Less than 30 seconds to get out before being burned alive.
- One second from the hydraulic failure to start of fire.
- ~9 seconds after the fire started he returned to the desk.
- ~5 seconds after that the desk was splattered with molten aluminum and on fire.
- ~24 seconds after the fire started for everything to turn into a hellscape with collapsing ceiling tiles, which was ~13 seconds after he returned to the desk.
If that doesn’t tell you to GTFO instantly if a fire starts in an enclosed space, nothing will. Less than 30 seconds to get out before being burned alive.
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It's been a while, thought I'd drop in a post while waiting for the machine to finish making a part.
Economics this time, and general thoughts on what will end up happening in the manufacturing industry.
First off, as a reminder, manufacturing is the main measure for determining how healthy an economy is.
Right now in USA, there are tons of people losing thier jobs, but not in the manufacturing industry so much. This is mainly thanks to Trump from his first four years in office. Most of the people losing their job in this industry are either deadweight or unskilled button jockies that another (or newer) machine can do.
What this means is there is still a rather high demand for people willing to be good or exceptional as a machinist. This is before taking into account the military industrial complex getting all the free money to make weapons and kick-backs for Ukraine/Israel.
Machine shops are looking for experience because mistakes are very expensive. When interest and insurance was low, it didn't matter too much. Now consider that customers want their stuff delivered on time, shops are now very picky about who gets hired.
I believe this is very important because this is the first signs of major fat trimming for all industries.
The military industrial complex is putting a lot of unneeded pressure on an already undersized workforce pool. With the free-flowing fed money, who can resist such a cushy job? Top it off with people already saying "I'm just doing my job", the most important part of the economy is dying. Soon everyone will be working for the government because there isn't any money found anywhere else. As an aside, when I say 'for the government' I also include government contracts since the money comes frome the same place.
Soon, farmers won't be able to get replacement parts or equipment for planting and harvesting, to an extent. Even though farming is largely subsidized in USA, the government hates farmers because of how independent most are. Consider the Amish and how they are being forced by the FDA to do things a certain way these days.
Government response will be the same as it always has been since the gold standard was dropped: Print more money.
As near as I can tell, the only reason why things are not worse is because of how many guns are already in the hands of people that need them. Making more is trivial to any machinist, and is not a big deal to anyone else with some steel tube and a desire to defend themselves.
I am starting to feel vindicated from telling everone with an ear to get into either machining or farming.
Economics this time, and general thoughts on what will end up happening in the manufacturing industry.
First off, as a reminder, manufacturing is the main measure for determining how healthy an economy is.
Right now in USA, there are tons of people losing thier jobs, but not in the manufacturing industry so much. This is mainly thanks to Trump from his first four years in office. Most of the people losing their job in this industry are either deadweight or unskilled button jockies that another (or newer) machine can do.
What this means is there is still a rather high demand for people willing to be good or exceptional as a machinist. This is before taking into account the military industrial complex getting all the free money to make weapons and kick-backs for Ukraine/Israel.
Machine shops are looking for experience because mistakes are very expensive. When interest and insurance was low, it didn't matter too much. Now consider that customers want their stuff delivered on time, shops are now very picky about who gets hired.
I believe this is very important because this is the first signs of major fat trimming for all industries.
The military industrial complex is putting a lot of unneeded pressure on an already undersized workforce pool. With the free-flowing fed money, who can resist such a cushy job? Top it off with people already saying "I'm just doing my job", the most important part of the economy is dying. Soon everyone will be working for the government because there isn't any money found anywhere else. As an aside, when I say 'for the government' I also include government contracts since the money comes frome the same place.
Soon, farmers won't be able to get replacement parts or equipment for planting and harvesting, to an extent. Even though farming is largely subsidized in USA, the government hates farmers because of how independent most are. Consider the Amish and how they are being forced by the FDA to do things a certain way these days.
Government response will be the same as it always has been since the gold standard was dropped: Print more money.
As near as I can tell, the only reason why things are not worse is because of how many guns are already in the hands of people that need them. Making more is trivial to any machinist, and is not a big deal to anyone else with some steel tube and a desire to defend themselves.
I am starting to feel vindicated from telling everone with an ear to get into either machining or farming.
>>4035
You should check out electroplated PLA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlD9USAhcEs Yeah it's still plastic, but electroplating it can almost double the object's strength.
You should check out electroplated PLA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlD9USAhcEs Yeah it's still plastic, but electroplating it can almost double the object's strength.
Don't forget your solvents, fuels, fertilizers, and polymers!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone%E2%80%93butanol%E2%80%93ethanol_fermentation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biofertilizer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenium_argentatum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillium_rubens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj6fDDQrl3w
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BfjaVbLb8I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar-powered_Stirling_engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone%E2%80%93butanol%E2%80%93ethanol_fermentation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biofertilizer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenium_argentatum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillium_rubens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj6fDDQrl3w
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BfjaVbLb8I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar-powered_Stirling_engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogas
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There used to be a 3d printer on the market that could 3d print using this stuff https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_clay you might be able to get away with repurosing a clay 3d printer. Glass clay also exists and is mostly used for jewlery. Metal and glass clay are also pretty easy to make https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rXfrOrz2cB8
Building materials
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cob_(material)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wychert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattle_and_daub
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthen_plaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rammed_earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cob_(material)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wychert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattle_and_daub
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthen_plaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rammed_earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthship
>>7506
>Nigger labour
Fuck no. The Jews may want to force whites into shit jobs. But there's no way am giving them what they want.
>Nigger labour
Fuck no. The Jews may want to force whites into shit jobs. But there's no way am giving them what they want.
>Implying you're not filling schlomo's pockets either way.
There's always a way to leech on.
There's always a way to leech on.
How Civilization Ends. Civilizational and technological decline.
>If you’re looking for work, or to launch a business, you should probably look very hard at the opportunities in the machine shop area. Because it’s not just the car collectors who need metal parts machined.
>If you’re looking for work, or to launch a business, you should probably look very hard at the opportunities in the machine shop area. Because it’s not just the car collectors who need metal parts machined.
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Ownership of the means of production has never been easier.
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>>7547
yep, this is exactly what I've been saying will happen for ~15 years, starting to see the effects of a very high shortage. Since the business/shop can't get skilled machinists customers complain about quality of work and stop going to that business. After a while there isn't any more of those specific kinds of businesses left. In this case its automotive machine shops.
Same issue where I live and a lack of good automotive machine shops. This is the net result of government handouts and subsidizing entire industries.
In other news, I made myself a couple of very nice steel tables from scratch. I plan on using these tables for some very cool things in the future, including but not limited to reloading bullets and investment casting metal ponies. I can't say when I'll get all the investment casting tools, but I'd like to have something to donate to mare fair charity auction.
yep, this is exactly what I've been saying will happen for ~15 years, starting to see the effects of a very high shortage. Since the business/shop can't get skilled machinists customers complain about quality of work and stop going to that business. After a while there isn't any more of those specific kinds of businesses left. In this case its automotive machine shops.
Same issue where I live and a lack of good automotive machine shops. This is the net result of government handouts and subsidizing entire industries.
In other news, I made myself a couple of very nice steel tables from scratch. I plan on using these tables for some very cool things in the future, including but not limited to reloading bullets and investment casting metal ponies. I can't say when I'll get all the investment casting tools, but I'd like to have something to donate to mare fair charity auction.
>>7553
forgot to mention, https://www.lymanproducts.com/reloading/reloading-presses-kits/lyman-ultimate-reloading-system is the kit I got.
MidwayUSA has a really good deal on that kit right now for $550 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019119041?pid=509109 has everything needed except the reloading dies and shell holders. For reference, a similar reloading press from redding or RCBS cost $400 for just the press. The Lyman press is all made in USA, including the castings.
forgot to mention, https://www.lymanproducts.com/reloading/reloading-presses-kits/lyman-ultimate-reloading-system is the kit I got.
MidwayUSA has a really good deal on that kit right now for $550 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019119041?pid=509109 has everything needed except the reloading dies and shell holders. For reference, a similar reloading press from redding or RCBS cost $400 for just the press. The Lyman press is all made in USA, including the castings.
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Take the stonemasonry pill
Behond! A 3D printer that can print clay for under $500!
Also
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_clay
Also
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_clay
So there I was in my little shop welding on some things and thinking about guns and ammo and how the state is buying almost all of it up, leaving nothing left for people reloading their own ammo.
Then I got to thinking "how could the state make it impossible for average people to own a gun legally?"
Well, they did already, sort of.
With the NFA tax, full auto and suppressors more than doubled the cost of the firearm when first implemented. It is only because they didn't scale the NFA tax with inflation that suppressors are fairly common these days.
But really, how could the government do it right now?
Let's back up a bit and see how a typical firearm system works. There is the cartridge which includes the primer, rifle powder, projectile, and casing. Then there is the rifle which is either bolt action or simi-auto.
The state (BATFE) knows that a low-ball ban would enrage most people, such as, declaring rifle powder a high explosive. I don't think that will happen.
What might happen though is switching to a completely different kind of ammo that doesn't use primers, and slowly shutting down primer manufacturers via OSHA regulations. There are only 3-4 companies in USA making primers.
Pretty much all commonly used munitions and firearms are designed by the military. If the military could buy firearms that are impossible to make on a lathe or mill then it's possible to slowly get rid of most civilian firearms. Almost all firearm companies rely on those juicy government contracts to supply the military and other government agencies with firearms and munitions. If the government suddenly switched to some sort of new design that some component was illegal to own, then I could see further divergence between government and normal people over the span of maybe 75 years or so.
Then I got to thinking "how could the state make it impossible for average people to own a gun legally?"
Well, they did already, sort of.
With the NFA tax, full auto and suppressors more than doubled the cost of the firearm when first implemented. It is only because they didn't scale the NFA tax with inflation that suppressors are fairly common these days.
But really, how could the government do it right now?
Let's back up a bit and see how a typical firearm system works. There is the cartridge which includes the primer, rifle powder, projectile, and casing. Then there is the rifle which is either bolt action or simi-auto.
The state (BATFE) knows that a low-ball ban would enrage most people, such as, declaring rifle powder a high explosive. I don't think that will happen.
What might happen though is switching to a completely different kind of ammo that doesn't use primers, and slowly shutting down primer manufacturers via OSHA regulations. There are only 3-4 companies in USA making primers.
Pretty much all commonly used munitions and firearms are designed by the military. If the military could buy firearms that are impossible to make on a lathe or mill then it's possible to slowly get rid of most civilian firearms. Almost all firearm companies rely on those juicy government contracts to supply the military and other government agencies with firearms and munitions. If the government suddenly switched to some sort of new design that some component was illegal to own, then I could see further divergence between government and normal people over the span of maybe 75 years or so.
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