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No.179654
Parallel containment thread for out of character discussions related to the roleplay thread.
2119 replies and 299 files omitted.
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No.181255
>>181208
>>181226
Relax, its prolly the antag statblocks
Anonymous
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No.181264
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>>181208
>>181258
Aren't these hero-grade stats? When you roll stats for an average character you use three die instead of four, and you don't discard the lowest.
Anonymous
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No.181266
>>181264
Dont look at me, Im just tallying
Anonymous
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No.181270
181271 181291
I usually just use elite array when I make NPCs. Rolling is more fun for some, but I try to minimize the trouble I go through to make a character that the party is probably going to kill in the third round of combat.
Nice roll on the first one though.
Anonymous
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No.181271
181274 181281
>>181270
I only roll for adversaries that are likely to survive
Anonymous
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No.181274
181277
>>181271
If they're important, I use point buy.
Anonymous
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No.181277
>>181274
If theyre important, I give them a mid-combat objectives. Simple versions are "dospel the armor buffs sp can hit"
Anonymous
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No.181278
So*
Anonymous
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No.181281
181282
>>181271
What if they're gods? You don't use the Divine Array?
Anonymous
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No.181282
181290
>>181281
>what if stuff that wont happen
You seem to need established rules
Anonymous
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No.181290
>>181282
>wont happen
Pfft, says you. There's no less than five demigods in this setting alone.
Anonymous
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No.181291
181292
>>181270
>I usually use elite array
<I only roll for adversaries that will live
>what if theyre gods (cuz that matters?)
>what about
Muted
Anonymous
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No.181292
181293
>>181291
And if they're relatively weak allies that are useful to be kept around?
Anonymous
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No.181293
>>181292
Weakness isnt a function of stats. Its not about the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog.
Anonymous
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No.181296
181297 181316 181332
Also, if we're all good and all,....

That grenade took off 1/3rd of Brie's health,....
Anonymous
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No.181297
181301
>>181296
Also, GM isnt allowed to roll damage for me anymore, especially not together with everyone. Call me paranoid, but these dice can lick my balls.
GM Pony
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No.181301
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>>181297
>He thinks that his feeble decrees can save him from Fortuna’s malevolent whims
Darling. Bro. I haven’t rolled damage for you even once this whole game.
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No.181303
181307
>>181301
Youre correct, I accepted Dust's roll, and should have contested at the time
>feeble decrees
I had to try
Anonymous
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No.181307
181335
>>181303
[1d8 = 7]
Anonymous
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No.181316
181318
>>181296
Sensitive ears, weak to sound.
Anonymous
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No.181318
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>>181316
Thats what the earplugs are for ;>,_,<;
Anonymous
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No.181320
181321
>>181318
Become undead: Then you can just cut off your ears and stow them in your back pocket when you're not using them.
Anonymous
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No.181321
181322 181323
>>181320
Here, hold this
stab
(Not really)
>>181302
>athiest cleric
Im not saying it can't happen, but Im very curious how that works
Anonymous
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No.181322
181323 181325 181326 181335
>>181321
>Im very curious how that works
It's in the SRD:
>If a cleric is not devoted to a particular deity, he still selects two domains to represent his spiritual inclinations and abilities. The restriction on alignment domains still applies.
Power comes from faith itself, not just from the gods.
If you want specific lore, I can dig up examples from half a dozen books.

I actually considered making Posey a godless Cleric (Clerics are the best necromancers), but I chose Dread Necromancer because it has Dread in it, and also because u have powergaming tendencies so I figured I should avoid tier 1 classes in favor of a specialist tier 3 class.
I'm normally not fond of godless Clerics though, at least in most conventional d&d settings.
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No.181323
181324 181326
>>181302
Hmm, actually. I haven't decided yet how I wish Vir to play. I'll think about it.
>>181321
>Heals teammates by the power of God she doesn't believe exist. ^^
Yeah, Idk. Maybe, it could just be a level of exp that she doesn't use anymore, like for story purposes.

>>181322
>Power comes from faith itself, not just from the gods.
Okay. I feel like I heard and extended diatribe about this topic but I don't remember it.
Anonymous
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No.181324
>>181323
>how I wish Vir to pla
Or, rather her aesthetic.
Anonymous
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No.181325
181335
>>181322
>Tfw Cleric gets to cast Animate Dead at lvl 5, but Dread Necromancer needs to wait until lvl 8
Ffs....
Anonymous
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>>181322
>>181323
I know it can be done, Im just interested to hear this particular take. My favorite is faith in the divine essence of the self, but theres many ways to do it in rules or just in essence
Anonymous
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No.181327
I heard of another that believed they were a god sealed in a mortal form to strip them of their power/area of dominion, and so it was
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No.181332
181334
>>181296
I'm sorry it did HOW MUCH? HOW SQUISHY IS THE BAT?
Anonymous
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No.181334
>>181332
He is currently at 22/30 hp
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>>181335
I didnt think it counts, I was just curious if it would have made much of a difference, which obv the dice hate me like they hated Infernius
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No.181341
>>181340
>the latter she paid two levels for
The middle, not latter
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No.181342
181343
>>181331 →
Kind of sounds a bit more like a Druid, tbh, but you do you.
Anonymous
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No.181343
>>181342
I'm getting more of a devotion/worship of life/death and the natural cycle sort of vibe, rather than nature
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To the issue of meta, the ability to sufficiently appreciate the potential of the crown would mechanically be based on a knowledge arcana check, probably high dc. 3 guesses what Brie's ranks are, trained only. The only things he knlws about magic items is how to sometimes get them to work (use magic), and a bunch of random tidbits. The odds of him knowing enough to really decipher what hes seen is very low, but he does know theres funny business hes QUITE keen to get to the bottom of.
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No.181354
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>>181353
>the ability to sufficiently appreciate the potential of the crown would mechanically be based on a knowledge arcana check, probably high dc
I rolled a 30. 30 is high.
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No.181355
>>181353
Through basic observation on its effects both before and after it was removed from the griffon's head, Silver could probably surmise that the crown has some kind of mind control power/curse and that it increases the natural abilities of its wearer. He has absolutely no knowledge of magic or the arcane (a result of being raised by a single Earth Pony father) outside of what his daughter White Light has told him in excited descriptions of her latest studies when she was a filly, and as such would have no deeper understand of how the crown actually operates than the next pony.
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No.181356
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>>181354
Well, heres the thing. I WANT Brie to immediately grasp the significance of what he has so far detected, cuz I appreciate the significance of what he's seeing, but thats meta.
In reality, Brie owes knowledge, insight, and a few other checks to put together what I already know, and several checks he should automatically fail. Im gonna leave it up to GM to weigh on how I can roll to be as prescient as I was trying to overreachingly have him be.
Anonymous
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No.181358
181362 181387
I'm not rolling for the vomiting OR the critical stab thats healed. I did roll to notice the stashing of the magic sword but willfully neglected to sense motive, the crown Ill voluntarily waive/fail, so sense motive on the spoopy obsessive behavior/emotes.
[1d20+8 = (17+8) = 25]
Anonymous
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No.181359
181362 181387
K, so Brie can tell that Rosey is jizzing her pants at the crown but really doesnt want anyone to know. And, he cant know why she would be jizzing her pants, though she did claim profession,... but that captain summoned something, and these Griffons are talking mind control. More questions
GM Pony
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No.181362
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>>181358
>>181359
Rosey and Silver were both calling the tiara "cursed" based off of the apocalyptic log of the whalers before shit went down, long before they went on that boat.

This is what happens when you quit for a week and miss part of the game...
Anonymous
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No.181364
>>181362
Even in spite of my tantrum, Brie would not have entered the buildings with them, he would have maintained an arial vantage. He came into this mission:
1. Thinking he had it already figured out, and it was military/commie/mercenary (conventional)
2. Thinking they could be walking into a trap
It actually makes sense for him to fuck off for that portion, even though I was shitting my pants ^,_,^
Anonymous
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No.181370
181371 181387
Brie should get a bonus to bluff checks cuz mask .,_,.
GM Pony
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No.181371
181374
>>181370
Do you trust people wearing masks?
Anonymous
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No.181374
>>181371
I'll grant that that bonus would be removed for the sense motive check (the penalty to charisma is precisely to account for his overall suspiciousness), but it would be harder to spot/easier to conceal tells that account for the perception of the bluff
Anonymous
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No.181375
181377
Alternately, n/pcs could get a penalty,....
Anonymous
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No.181377
>>181375
only a -1 to.spot cuz its otherwise form fitting?
Anonymous
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No.181387
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No.181388
181391
>>181387
>Even with her 30 on Arcana, Posey does not know the abilities of the tiara or even how it could be useful to her.
It channels divine energy. Do you want like, specific spells?
Anonymous
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No.181390
>>181387
Yes, and one of the questions Brie intends to ask is "whats this about a curse? Like in fairy tales?"
Brie knows magic exists, has even dealt with some useful ones, but has no comprehension and is, not suspicious of but more mindful toward. He has loads of question once we're 86 the freighter (kek)
Anonymous
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No.181391
>>181388
No. I want to figure it out gradually myself. Clues would be fun though.
Anonymous
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No.181392
181404
>>181387
Also, all of bries stuff except the revolver and suppressor is masterwork
Anonymous
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No.181415
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>>181404
>Okay but where would the alicorns fit in? They also each represent a crucial aspect of harmony and life. Celestia represents the sun, warmth, and everything related to it. Luna represents the night, dreams, etc. Cadance represents love and family. Twilight is already the Element of Magic but also represents friendship and learning.
You could just start them as demigods and have harmonist priests who follow their teachings.
>Actually that would make a lot of sense
Just remove the shapeshifting ability and replace it with something else.
Anonymous
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>>181404
One doesnt tend to deface the serial numbers nor possess illegally in commission of a crime such masterpieces (especially threading such a barrel!)
Anonymous
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No.181421
His suit, mask, boots, gloves, blades (2 killing, 10 throwing), all are tho
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No.181477
181489 181491
>>181415
So Posey really has 55 HP, same as Silver?
Anonymous
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No.181489
181505
>>181477
Looks that way. I looked in their (posted) character sheet and the inherent build. Ngl, aside from being broken as holy fuck, it is published
Anonymous
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No.181491
181493 181498
>>181477
4d12 + 6 (Bloodtouched Rite) + 8 (Desecrated on an altar) + 8 (Undead Mastery)
Yep.
The lvl 8 Warblade build based on Silver I made has twice that many hot points, wanna see the progress?
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181493
181495 181496
>>181491
Now that is a lot of HP

I was just gonna say it actually makes me a little proud of Silver's stats, being on par with Posey
Anonymous
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No.181495
>>181493
Silver has enormous stats, totaling 43 points, before mods. They're somewhat lopsided though. Those points could be more evenly distributed.
Anonymous
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No.181496
>>181493
Silver's rolled stats are way above average even without counting in free points from the GM with no tradeoff scrunch
Anonymous
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No.181498
181500
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>>181491
Both Rosie and Tarnished Silver (you know u wanna)
Anonymous
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No.181500
>>181498
Also, not as an indictment, lets not forget Rosie's damage reduction
Anonymous
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No.181501
Short version: Brie would land one, maybe eben TWO (otherwise) devastating killshots.

And then he would be eaten by something he has no frame of reference to
Anonymous
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No.181502
181505
Final point.
Brie is a kind-of John Wick Baba Yega.

Rosey is the actual Baba Yega
Anonymous
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No.181504
But yeah, its easy to forget that characters dont know to think/look for spoopy shit, when youve spent years playing characters who know - by background, sense, or both - to watch out for and know that shit
Anonymous
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No.181505
181506 181507 181509
>>181489
You and I have a very different perspective of what broken means, tbh....
Notice how Posey has no Metamagic feats? That's because she's not doing any crazy Metamagic gimmicks, and by spellcaster standards she's low-op.
To me, broken means using the writing of Warshaper's Morphic Weapons (technically has no upper limit for how many weapons you can grow) to grow unlimited/infinite crotch tentacles for infinite attacks. Or using Summon Elemental to summon Living Holocausts (technically, they're Small Elementals), at-will. Or using the Spelldance to persist every buff spell (Or really any use of Persistent Spell with Metamagic cost reducers). Or casting Wall Of Salt, and selling the salt (it's worth its weight in silver). Or buying a candle of Invocation, and doing literally anything with it.
High HP has never been on my list of broken things.
>>181502
I was interested in building a castle that stands on chicken feet.
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181506
181526
>>181505
>unlimited/infinite crotch tentacles
~oco~
Anonymous
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No.181507
181511 181515
>>181505
We get it. Your character is merely unkillable. Not infinitely powerful on the offense.
Anonymous
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No.181509
181510
>>181505
Okay, Broken may be hyperbolic. Spellstitching is kinda hax, and Im - in good faith no less - warning you now that the same concentration rules that apply to spells apply to spell like abilities
Anonymous
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No.181510
>>181509
Will fucknoff to ooc for the remainder of this
Anonymous
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No.181511
181512
>>181507
Well, I offered to cut 16 HP off of her, along with the other benefits of her Mentor's modifications. Would you be satisfied with that?
Anonymous
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No.181512
181517 181524
>>181511
No. I WANT Posey to be powerful. I want GM to give a threat to justify it.
Anonymous
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No.181513
You know, if she turned the Tiara into a legacy item, she could sacrifice some of her max HP to make it usable.
Anonymous
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No.181514
Some of the things Rosey has applied are kinda intended to not be used together (or worse, they were e_e)
But, lemons and lemonade.
Bring on the Leviathan *clap clap*
The Floof and The Noodle
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No.181515
181516 181517 181521 181524
>>181507
I know this probably isn't helping, but I'm not even sure I'd describe her as unkillable. Exceptionally sturdy, sure, but she's already nearly died twice...or was it three times? I forget how that battle against the griffon paladin went. As for the current party - not saying anyone is currently planning anything hostile towards Posey because we really aren't - I can see a couple creatures actually posing a serious threat to her in battle. Defiant Dust absolutely could turn Posey to dust, and Silver could hold his own with the help of his sword.
Anonymous
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No.181516
>>181515
<Not a criticism, but your conditiions for death rival.my own - Infernal Thez
Anonymous
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No.181517
181518
>>181512
GM has explained multiple times that the design of the campaign is for a lot of mundane threats and a few eldritch threats that should terrify the PCs, but for Posey is "just another Tuesday."

>>181515
She's not unkillable by any means, but definitely really tanky.
Anonymous
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No.181518
>>181517
I know, Im trying to reframe. Rosey can be ridiculous, but that means being clutch ridiculous (and not 'yet' in a villain mastermind sense) 'for the time being'. I get it
Anonymous
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No.181520
Im perfectly okay with Brie being amazed at what Rosey is capable of, the same as deducing what Posey up to.

The race is on, and the clock is ticking Batpon (oh, thats me)
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No.181525
>>181524
>superhero
Kaiju, please
>>181524
Addy, who can be said to be in something of the background, suddnly starts busing herself cleaning, not in anybway cuz shes guilty of kinda the same thing
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>>181527
Ngl, thats a very compelling argument. I dont have any issue with OP characters, I have issues with OP characters who vomit blood for a whole flight, go Smeagol around spoopy.magics, and generally express an intent to entertain themselves at the expense of the party, and I admit a.dying prejudice to that conclusion
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No.181530
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And overall, Posey has only had between four and six serious encounters in this entire campaign: the equivalent to a single adventuring day. Isn't it a bit early to judge how "broken" she is?
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No.181531
>>181529
Machine gun wizards sound kinda badass, honestly
Anonymous
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No.181532
>>181529
I can remain silent, nut Im offering to ne constructively critical. I leave it open for reception.
Anonymous
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No.181533
181542
I even voluntarily abstained from using any kind of firearm, just to handicap myself and follow the abysmal tech level of the Dread League.
I played an inferior dread necromancer instead of a cleric, because I decided that delayed spell progression was worth the name. I could have cast animate dead on day 1, but I let it be 5 levels away.
I spent all of my starting gold on becoming a monster, instead of buying items.
I made my character all-but-die when she passed over running water, compulsively knock on door to forfeit surprise rounds, and

Am I really power gaming that hard? What problems have I caused with my build? What issues has Posey created (besides the crown which is irrelevant to her build)? Has her high HP, immunities, or DR ever been an actual issue before? Are there any fights that Posey has been involved in that should have gone differently than they did? Was she supposed to lose some of those solo encounters?
What's the problem with Posey? Tell me what it is so I can fix it.

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