Parallel containment thread for out of character discussions related to the roleplay thread.
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>>184387
Stop intentionally antagonizing Brie. It may be funny for you, but it isn't funny for the rest of us.
>>184399
>Why are you such a huffy fluffy wufflekins?
Okay, that was pretty funny
>>184441
Hey! That's my clip for Nadir on Halloween!
>>184384
>A +2 weapon costs as much as a mansion, and we have several.
You would have been better off saying "Wow, we're so under equipped in terms of magic items for our level. GM needs to be less stingy with the loot."
Instead y'all are trying to pawn off magic items to each other or even leaving them behind deliberately.
[Read more] Stop intentionally antagonizing Brie. It may be funny for you, but it isn't funny for the rest of us.
>>184399
>Why are you such a huffy fluffy wufflekins?
Okay, that was pretty funny
>>184441
Hey! That's my clip for Nadir on Halloween!
>>184384
>A +2 weapon costs as much as a mansion, and we have several.
You would have been better off saying "Wow, we're so under equipped in terms of magic items for our level. GM needs to be less stingy with the loot."
Instead y'all are trying to pawn off magic items to each other or even leaving them behind deliberately.
Isn't Dark Star a 5-level ranger? How does he use his ranger spells without a horn? Do ranger spells work like bard spells and can be cast by any character of the appropriate level?
>>184476
I hope we can convince Shoal Water to increase our monetary reward since we're potentially saving the world and killing an interdimensional demon or what have you. Silver has a household full of NPCs to think about.
I hope we can convince Shoal Water to increase our monetary reward since we're potentially saving the world and killing an interdimensional demon or what have you. Silver has a household full of NPCs to think about.
>>184492
>I hope we can convince Shoal Water to increase our monetary reward since we're potentially saving the world and killing an interdimensional demon or what have you.
I already announced intent to do that. Fighting Cthulhu wasn't in the job description. We deserve a bonus.
Hopefully the Traveller drops some good loot too.
>I hope we can convince Shoal Water to increase our monetary reward since we're potentially saving the world and killing an interdimensional demon or what have you.
I already announced intent to do that. Fighting Cthulhu wasn't in the job description. We deserve a bonus.
Hopefully the Traveller drops some good loot too.
>its all so tiresome.gif
>>184513
I guess I owe the other players an apology.
I'm sorry guys. I really was just trying to have fun, but when I feel like people are trying to restrict my fun, I have a reflex of doubling down on the trolling. It's a habit that has gotten me kicked from many a discord server (that and antisemitism).
>>184514
But to you I am not sorry. I might've been sorry before the stunt you just pulled, but not anymore, because that was beyond the pale.
>I threatened to doxx people over a handful of pony pics
>I am totally NOT assblasted
Stay mad.
I guess I owe the other players an apology.
I'm sorry guys. I really was just trying to have fun, but when I feel like people are trying to restrict my fun, I have a reflex of doubling down on the trolling. It's a habit that has gotten me kicked from many a discord server (that and antisemitism).
>>184514
But to you I am not sorry. I might've been sorry before the stunt you just pulled, but not anymore, because that was beyond the pale.
>I threatened to doxx people over a handful of pony pics
>I am totally NOT assblasted
Stay mad.
>>184509
>>184515
This isn't a /bantz/ thread. This is a DnD game that just happens to be on an imageboard. When joining a game there are basic expectations of respect that players are owed, because they are giving their own free time to be here and they pick up their ball and leave if it ever gets unfun.
These expectations include both OOC behavior and IC behavior. OOC behavior is the sort of behavior you would use around people in a DnD game irl. You don't have to be informal and cordial like you would your coworkers but unless if you know them well you would show restraint on banter and teasing, and you haven't done that. If OOC someone has a mental illness or phobia and asks to not be exposed to "triggers," you should not break that trust to provoke a reaction. IC behavior includes stuff like instigating PvP, sexually assaulting other characters or interrupting/touching a character in any way that doesn't help the party within combat. These things might be allowed but only if both players agree, and flouting those rules is also very bad. You have also broken those expectations.
This clearly isn't your first rodeo because you know a lot about the game, mechanically. I can't say whether or not you got kicked out of previous games for this sort of behavior but either way you should know better, and should have stopped at the first OOC "stop." The campaign isn't your personal playground like a singleplayer game where you can toy with the characters endlessly. Go play Baldur's Gate or something if you want that. I've tried being charitable with my view on you, and in the past I personally asked the GM to give you some leeway, but you are making it very hard for me.
>Stay mad.
Go take a shower and sleep. If you still have this attitude in the morning I don't think you'll get any better.
[Read more] >>184515
This isn't a /bantz/ thread. This is a DnD game that just happens to be on an imageboard. When joining a game there are basic expectations of respect that players are owed, because they are giving their own free time to be here and they pick up their ball and leave if it ever gets unfun.
These expectations include both OOC behavior and IC behavior. OOC behavior is the sort of behavior you would use around people in a DnD game irl. You don't have to be informal and cordial like you would your coworkers but unless if you know them well you would show restraint on banter and teasing, and you haven't done that. If OOC someone has a mental illness or phobia and asks to not be exposed to "triggers," you should not break that trust to provoke a reaction. IC behavior includes stuff like instigating PvP, sexually assaulting other characters or interrupting/touching a character in any way that doesn't help the party within combat. These things might be allowed but only if both players agree, and flouting those rules is also very bad. You have also broken those expectations.
This clearly isn't your first rodeo because you know a lot about the game, mechanically. I can't say whether or not you got kicked out of previous games for this sort of behavior but either way you should know better, and should have stopped at the first OOC "stop." The campaign isn't your personal playground like a singleplayer game where you can toy with the characters endlessly. Go play Baldur's Gate or something if you want that. I've tried being charitable with my view on you, and in the past I personally asked the GM to give you some leeway, but you are making it very hard for me.
>Stay mad.
Go take a shower and sleep. If you still have this attitude in the morning I don't think you'll get any better.
>>184515
Youve been bent since before day one. Shall we go into it? Oh wait, doxxing is bad. I will not regret being absolved of your input. I was willing to abide for the game, but I figured a more elegant way that doesnt beleaguer GM. Have a nice life! Im sure you will be deloghtful to others as you have been to me!
Youve been bent since before day one. Shall we go into it? Oh wait, doxxing is bad. I will not regret being absolved of your input. I was willing to abide for the game, but I figured a more elegant way that doesnt beleaguer GM. Have a nice life! Im sure you will be deloghtful to others as you have been to me!
>>184516
Tbh, maybe you're right. I've been overworked and frustrated these past couple weeks, and I have let some of that frustration leave into some of the PbP games that I've been playing lately. Idk why I even joined so many at once; I guess I just wanted to play more games, but didn't want to commit to sessions. I really need to think harder about how I want to spend my limited free time left on this realm...
I do want to try Baldur's Gate 3...
>>184517
Idk what this is trying to communicate, but I don't really care anymore.
Tbh, maybe you're right. I've been overworked and frustrated these past couple weeks, and I have let some of that frustration leave into some of the PbP games that I've been playing lately. Idk why I even joined so many at once; I guess I just wanted to play more games, but didn't want to commit to sessions. I really need to think harder about how I want to spend my limited free time left on this realm...
I do want to try Baldur's Gate 3...
>>184517
Idk what this is trying to communicate, but I don't really care anymore.
>>184515
>when I feel like people are trying to restrict my fun
Your fun? What is your fun? Finding out what triggers another player, pressing that button, trying to get him to sperg and to derail the thread? That's the fun you don't want restricted?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>I really was just trying to have fun
Intentionally antagonizing another player into a frenzy and derailing the game is not fun to the other six of us here.
>when I feel like people are trying to restrict my fun
Your fun? What is your fun? Finding out what triggers another player, pressing that button, trying to get him to sperg and to derail the thread? That's the fun you don't want restricted?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>I really was just trying to have fun
Intentionally antagonizing another player into a frenzy and derailing the game is not fun to the other six of us here.
Can we just like, all collectively drop this? Maybe for like, a day? Two? Maybe 30,000? Never bring it up again? Just have Brie and Posey ignore each other for the rest of time? Maybe have Dust disappear? Just a thought.
I know Brie's player is annoyed with how every time I chime in on a situation it's either "Brie's wrong" or "you're both wrong", but I'm trying to help you with what you've said in Test about wanting to do and be better, especially with regards to other people. Yes, Posey's player should have stopped earlier, but the way you were reacting was definitely not helping the situation. It felt antagonistic every time you told him to stop, even from the get go, and that antagonism just made him do it more and more and more. Again, he still should have stopped before it got to this point, but had you been a tad more diplomatic in your requests to stop, saying something like:
"Hey, I don't mean to be rude but I'm really not having fun with this. Can we please stop?"
would likely have resulted in a much more positive response from Posey's player. Just something to keep in mind for the future, you know? Antagonizing someone, even when they're antagonizing you, isn't always the best option.
Also no, threatening to dox people is never cool, even if you're just bluffing.
>>184522
pet pet pets u
[Read more] "Hey, I don't mean to be rude but I'm really not having fun with this. Can we please stop?"
would likely have resulted in a much more positive response from Posey's player. Just something to keep in mind for the future, you know? Antagonizing someone, even when they're antagonizing you, isn't always the best option.
Also no, threatening to dox people is never cool, even if you're just bluffing.
>>184522
pet pet pets u
>>184523
>"Hey, I don't mean to be rude but I'm really not having fun with this. Can we please stop?"
>would likely have resulted in a much more positive response from Posey's player.
No it wouldn't have. First, Brie's player has some behavioral issues that I don't want to get into, but which hurts his ability to respond with clear logic. We saw that with the sheep joke. These issues pose a problem at times but he has been working on getting them to a manageable state. Posey's player is very much aware of these issues and has singled him out like he is a middle school bully and an autistic kid just showed up. Why do you think Posey has always been teasing Brie specifically and not Cavaliere or Silver she molested Dust a couple of times but not that much in comparison.
Second, we all were telling Posey's player to cut it out, first as a gentle suggestion and then more firmly. He kept on with the joke for far too long until Brie's player bluffed a threat about "doxxing" and then focused on that as a further avenue to manipulate Brie and the other players.
Finally, look at Posey's excuse of "I've been overworked and frustrated lately" which has become a calling card of internet lolcows who got exposed for something bad. It's all about "me, me me" in that post. "I've been overworked and frustrated" (don't think about the other players who are overworked and frustrated, especially the autistic guy who's had his fun ruined). "Idk why I even joined so many at once" (my problem is that I don't have a good schedule, not having a bad attitude). "I really need to think harder about how I want to spend my limited free time left on this realm..." (sympathy-baiting, and again no mention of fixing bad behavior). "I do want to try Baldur's Gate 3..." (When being told not to treat co-op sessions like a singleplayer game, mentions said singleplayer game but not the problem of treating other players like video game characters).
I don't care about Posey's character being powerful and being sourced from different sourcebooks. I don't care about Posey's in-game antics like throwing up blood or worshipping a random sheep. I don't even care about Posey messing with other characters, as long it's not to trigger a reaction. What I'm not okay with is this sort of solipsistic rage-baiting which intentionally derails the campaign, and then narcissistic not-apologies to try to manipulate us to think it's okay. If it's not nipped in the bud it will actually kill this game because nobody wants to deal with this crap.
>>184522
>>184525
I really like Dust's character and I would rather you stayed. I know why you want to leave because this is infuriating, but the game has been going for years without this. Let's fix this issue and we'll have years more fun.
[Read more] >"Hey, I don't mean to be rude but I'm really not having fun with this. Can we please stop?"
>would likely have resulted in a much more positive response from Posey's player.
No it wouldn't have. First, Brie's player has some behavioral issues that I don't want to get into, but which hurts his ability to respond with clear logic. We saw that with the sheep joke. These issues pose a problem at times but he has been working on getting them to a manageable state. Posey's player is very much aware of these issues and has singled him out like he is a middle school bully and an autistic kid just showed up. Why do you think Posey has always been teasing Brie specifically and not Cavaliere or Silver she molested Dust a couple of times but not that much in comparison.
Second, we all were telling Posey's player to cut it out, first as a gentle suggestion and then more firmly. He kept on with the joke for far too long until Brie's player bluffed a threat about "doxxing" and then focused on that as a further avenue to manipulate Brie and the other players.
Finally, look at Posey's excuse of "I've been overworked and frustrated lately" which has become a calling card of internet lolcows who got exposed for something bad. It's all about "me, me me" in that post. "I've been overworked and frustrated" (don't think about the other players who are overworked and frustrated, especially the autistic guy who's had his fun ruined). "Idk why I even joined so many at once" (my problem is that I don't have a good schedule, not having a bad attitude). "I really need to think harder about how I want to spend my limited free time left on this realm..." (sympathy-baiting, and again no mention of fixing bad behavior). "I do want to try Baldur's Gate 3..." (When being told not to treat co-op sessions like a singleplayer game, mentions said singleplayer game but not the problem of treating other players like video game characters).
I don't care about Posey's character being powerful and being sourced from different sourcebooks. I don't care about Posey's in-game antics like throwing up blood or worshipping a random sheep. I don't even care about Posey messing with other characters, as long it's not to trigger a reaction. What I'm not okay with is this sort of solipsistic rage-baiting which intentionally derails the campaign, and then narcissistic not-apologies to try to manipulate us to think it's okay. If it's not nipped in the bud it will actually kill this game because nobody wants to deal with this crap.
>>184522
>>184525
I really like Dust's character and I would rather you stayed. I know why you want to leave because this is infuriating, but the game has been going for years without this. Let's fix this issue and we'll have years more fun.
Alright,... alright.
Lets clear the air a bit.
I'm not here to antagonize anyone. I know these last few weeks have been a wild rollercoaster (the ride doesn't end) and Ive been major part of it. Ive had to adjust my attitude more times than I can count and Ive cleared my schedule (my next therapy is gonna be a doozy) for further lessons. I wasnt aware pf how many triggers I have until theyve been tested, which was one of the purposes of returning to Mlpol (his idea, not mine).
I dont know how long it is going to take me to be able to fix all the shit I have going on and I'm sorry that I'm the sort of person who needs 'dealt with' in any sort 'particular' way. Any more, its just embarrassing, exhausting, and fatally resigning.
I want to be able to play along with all the jokes and games and lols, but one off-hand comment and "target-aquisition computers are calculating every possible vector of apporpach, which we've identified 5 active probable maneuvers, moving to intercept, engage countermeasures."
Brie was a character desogned to have an unmovable chip on his shoulder cuz IVE always had an umpvable chip on my shoulder. Anyone got a crowbar or a rock hammer or something?
Brie '86
Str 12 +1
Dex 18 +4
Con 10
Int 14 +2
Wis 9 -1
Cha 6 -2
30 hp
Ac: 10 + 4(Dex) + 4(Batman suit) = 18
Defensive fighting -4/+3, Defensive action +6
Weapons:
Fighting blades +1 (masterwork) x2
Throwing knives +1 30' (masterwork) x10
+4 BAB, +1 (focus feat), +4 (dex), +1 (masterwork) = +10 atk/+8 SS/+7Def/+5DefSS
1d6+2/1d4+2(thrown)
Sneak attack: +3d6
Grapple (Improved):
No atk of opportunity, touch atk, grapple check: +4 (dex), +4 (BAB), +4 (Improved feat) = +12 grapple
Don't lose Dex (uncanny) and attack at -4
Charge action: +2 atk, -2 ac, move 10'+ in straight line, make single attack
Stabby Stab: -2 atk, 1 additional attack/round
Feats: Dagger Focus*, Finesse (monk), Improved Feint*, Advanced Dagger*, Improved Grapple (monk), Evasion (rogue) Uncanny Dodge (rogue)
Skills:
Appraise 11
Move Silently 15
Hide 15
Spot 8
Listen 10
Search 11
Disable Device 12
Open Lock 13
Climb 5
Use Magic 7
Sleight of Hand 17
Decipher 11, 13 (scrolls)
Bluff 5
Intimidate 5
Tumble 15
Jump 8
Escape Artist 13
Swim 7
Balance 17
Sense Motive 8
Gather Info 3
Disguise 2
Languages: Ponish, Thestral, Changeling, Kirian
[Read more] Lets clear the air a bit.
I'm not here to antagonize anyone. I know these last few weeks have been a wild rollercoaster (the ride doesn't end) and Ive been major part of it. Ive had to adjust my attitude more times than I can count and Ive cleared my schedule (my next therapy is gonna be a doozy) for further lessons. I wasnt aware pf how many triggers I have until theyve been tested, which was one of the purposes of returning to Mlpol (his idea, not mine).
I dont know how long it is going to take me to be able to fix all the shit I have going on and I'm sorry that I'm the sort of person who needs 'dealt with' in any sort 'particular' way. Any more, its just embarrassing, exhausting, and fatally resigning.
I want to be able to play along with all the jokes and games and lols, but one off-hand comment and "target-aquisition computers are calculating every possible vector of apporpach, which we've identified 5 active probable maneuvers, moving to intercept, engage countermeasures."
Brie was a character desogned to have an unmovable chip on his shoulder cuz IVE always had an umpvable chip on my shoulder. Anyone got a crowbar or a rock hammer or something?
Brie '86
Str 12 +1
Dex 18 +4
Con 10
Int 14 +2
Wis 9 -1
Cha 6 -2
30 hp
Ac: 10 + 4(Dex) + 4(Batman suit) = 18
Defensive fighting -4/+3, Defensive action +6
Weapons:
Fighting blades +1 (masterwork) x2
Throwing knives +1 30' (masterwork) x10
+4 BAB, +1 (focus feat), +4 (dex), +1 (masterwork) = +10 atk/+8 SS/+7Def/+5DefSS
1d6+2/1d4+2(thrown)
Sneak attack: +3d6
Grapple (Improved):
No atk of opportunity, touch atk, grapple check: +4 (dex), +4 (BAB), +4 (Improved feat) = +12 grapple
Don't lose Dex (uncanny) and attack at -4
Charge action: +2 atk, -2 ac, move 10'+ in straight line, make single attack
Stabby Stab: -2 atk, 1 additional attack/round
Feats: Dagger Focus*, Finesse (monk), Improved Feint*, Advanced Dagger*, Improved Grapple (monk), Evasion (rogue) Uncanny Dodge (rogue)
Skills:
Appraise 11
Move Silently 15
Hide 15
Spot 8
Listen 10
Search 11
Disable Device 12
Open Lock 13
Climb 5
Use Magic 7
Sleight of Hand 17
Decipher 11, 13 (scrolls)
Bluff 5
Intimidate 5
Tumble 15
Jump 8
Escape Artist 13
Swim 7
Balance 17
Sense Motive 8
Gather Info 3
Disguise 2
Languages: Ponish, Thestral, Changeling, Kirian
I posted that so if you want a skill check or something, those are his modified skill adjustments and such. Thats what he is capable of. If Im not on, actively playing, or am shitting my pants for some stupid reason, you can have him do those.
All those appraisals are still on deck, when we're "not in a hurry", and I wouldnt be offended if GM started a "Tap the bat to get a free appraisal/investigation/whatever" check system.
All those appraisals are still on deck, when we're "not in a hurry", and I wouldnt be offended if GM started a "Tap the bat to get a free appraisal/investigation/whatever" check system.
>>184544
4(8+2)=40 at 1st
4(10)=40 2nd-5th
(4+2)= 6 Monk dip
Sprinkle in alot of skill synergy and a few bonuses from his masterwork suit,....
4(8+2)=40 at 1st
4(10)=40 2nd-5th
(4+2)= 6 Monk dip
Sprinkle in alot of skill synergy and a few bonuses from his masterwork suit,....
(And stat modifiers)
This is how I see Dust. One man's nigga another pony's zigga. ^^
Did I miss anyone?
>>184557
>Kek
^^
>I love it
I'm glad. To be honest at your drawing, I was getting a bit tired so I thought that I might have failed to do it justice.
I thought Brie was a bat >>184553
, this is meant for her but perhaps I'm wrong. After all, I drew Silver with a sword which he may not actually use that's how much I pay attention.
>Kek
^^
>I love it
I'm glad. To be honest at your drawing, I was getting a bit tired so I thought that I might have failed to do it justice.
I thought Brie was a bat >>184553
, this is meant for her but perhaps I'm wrong. After all, I drew Silver with a sword which he may not actually use that's how much I pay attention.
>>184565
>No Blue skies
Lacking,...
Im kidding, its amazing and awesome of you
But srsly, a rainbowdash monochrome was too much
Again kidding, much love and appreciation ^_^
>No Blue skies
Lacking,...
Im kidding, its amazing and awesome of you
But srsly, a rainbowdash monochrome was too much
Again kidding, much love and appreciation ^_^
>>184566
<No Blue skies
Yeah. I actually agree with your kidding self. The sky should be blue. I had night-filter on at the time nad didn't want to turn it off as not to flash myself. However, if I had more forethought I would have realized that i could use the Oekaki color palette RGB number system to just pick on with 00X to get one with blue, or dark blue. Dark blue, to reprsentent a midnight sky with the moon in the background which was what the drawing was suppose to represent.
>Im kidding, its amazing and awesome of you
>much love and appreciation ^_^
Ty fren <3 c:
>>184568
Woah, that's actually a significant improvement. c:
I like how now the some of my mindless scribbles look like strands of hairs that fall off in all the speed of whatever action Dark Star is in.
Thanks for putting the effort into polishing it up. That makes me happy. <3
>Hoof thumb
^^
Though, how I imagined it, with just the handle, doesn't make much sense either.
I didn't realize it before but it looks like the leg of the "A" is dismembering his left hoof or stabbing into his body. ^^
>>184569
Thank you. <3 ^^
I might redo Silver's one because that's the one that I'm least happy with. The snek is fine but with Silver I sometimes, even though I know which is which, can't tell between which two pairs of somewhat vertical lines that makes up his neck.
[Read more] <No Blue skies
Yeah. I actually agree with your kidding self. The sky should be blue. I had night-filter on at the time nad didn't want to turn it off as not to flash myself. However, if I had more forethought I would have realized that i could use the Oekaki color palette RGB number system to just pick on with 00X to get one with blue, or dark blue. Dark blue, to reprsentent a midnight sky with the moon in the background which was what the drawing was suppose to represent.
>Im kidding, its amazing and awesome of you
>much love and appreciation ^_^
Ty fren <3 c:
>>184568
Woah, that's actually a significant improvement. c:
I like how now the some of my mindless scribbles look like strands of hairs that fall off in all the speed of whatever action Dark Star is in.
Thanks for putting the effort into polishing it up. That makes me happy. <3
>Hoof thumb
^^
Though, how I imagined it, with just the handle, doesn't make much sense either.
I didn't realize it before but it looks like the leg of the "A" is dismembering his left hoof or stabbing into his body. ^^
>>184569
Thank you. <3 ^^
I might redo Silver's one because that's the one that I'm least happy with. The snek is fine but with Silver I sometimes, even though I know which is which, can't tell between which two pairs of somewhat vertical lines that makes up his neck.
>>184574
>Thanks for putting the effort into polishing it up.
No problem Fren thanks for Drawing it
>That makes me happy. <3
<3
>Hoof thumb
It must be tough to hold a revolver otherwise
>I didn't realize it before but it looks like the leg of the "A" is dismembering his left hoof or stabbing into his body. ^^
Its fine, it seems like its behind him to me
>Thanks for putting the effort into polishing it up.
No problem Fren thanks for Drawing it
>That makes me happy. <3
<3
>Hoof thumb
It must be tough to hold a revolver otherwise
>I didn't realize it before but it looks like the leg of the "A" is dismembering his left hoof or stabbing into his body. ^^
Its fine, it seems like its behind him to me
This one
The nice thing about revolvers is, you have to deliberately be undisciplined with brass, whereas an automatic can be a pain in the ass depending on the environment
Okay, I really, really, really, really didn’t want to resort to this, but I’ve exhausted all other options short of kicking players. Neither of you will stop when I tell you to stop. Henceforth, moderator action will be used to stop flame wars, thread derailment, and general unwarranted negativity.
No more back and forth spamming of posts that distract from the whole action of the thread. No more “cryptic nonsense,” no more clearly insulting posts, no more harassment. I’m done with it, and it will all be removed from the thread. This is the only option that I feel is at all fair to me and the other five players not involved in the drama. I’m ending this. The quest is themed around communism after all, so if going full Stalin is the only way forward, it will be the way forward.
>>184540
Brie, bro
You know we love you, and we want to keep you around. We understand that you have mental health issues, and among other issues this can cause aggressive behavior. I hope you have noticed that we are willing to extend tolerance and leniency to you that has not come to an end. To some real degree, I’m actually happy to have this game serve as a sort of therapy.
The negativity, and especially the spamming expressed in the thread, however, is coming to an end. No more cryptic nonsense. If you have a problem with a player or me, please make a single direct and to the point post in OOC that gets to the point. One post. Not three posts. Posts numbers two and three will be deleted with no warning nor explanation. Posts about it in the gaming thread will be deleted without explanation. If you think of something that you wished to put in the first post, what you should do instead is to abstain from clicking “new reply” for a minute, and then post what you wanted to say. I am not going to play 20 questions to figure out what Posey did this time. I am not going to lecture you on why we, a bunch of distracted men who are on the autism spectrum, do not understand your subtlety, do not understand the context of what is going on, and do not know what is on your mind. I’m not doing that. You either say what the problem is, or I will shut you up and continue with the game. I am ending the rollercoaster. I am ending the negativity. You can play the pony dating sim, or you can not. You of course have pretty much everyone’s discord DMs, including mine.
If you do not believe that the results of a spot check or other action have been acknowledged, please simply draw attention to the post, which has surely since been buried. I understand that much of your character’s actions are dependent on precise positioning, but we are not playing in person with miniatures and I’m not going to stop combat to force everyone to move figures on a digital map, at least not right now. If you want to bitch about a map, bitch to yourself, because I’m not suffering it. Ask questions about your character’s position.
I am shocked that any of the following needs to be said, but evidently I have to say it:
No threats of any kind will be tolerated and obviously will be deleted immediately. This includes an out of character threat to kill another player character, but obviously also threats of doxxing. Any actual attempt at doxxing will be met with immediate post deletion and a ban from the game and from the website. We’re not showing off discord handles here. This is my game, my game is anonymous. I don’t care if you can name people. We will not be doing that here.
I don’t care if you have longstanding personal grievances with whomever or long histories with people. The only digging up of ancient tombs, or unlocking of ancient evils that will be taking place here is what happens in character in game.
I don’t care about X, we are moving on and playing the game. All off topic negativity will be deleted, the end.
>>184515
I’m not going to respond to the disgrace of a post that was >>184519 because I don’t want to beat an (un)dead horse. All I will say is that I concur with >>184527. If you intended to quit the game because you didn’t like that another player had called you out on your harassment of another player, then you picked the absolute most inglorious hill to die on, and the horrific anti-apology you left out on makes you look worse than even the objectively far more problematic Brie, who actually felt bad and apologized. All you had to do was stop when Brie, and then later me, then Dust, and then Garv told you to stop.
Yes, Brie’s player has mental health problems that express themselves in especially annoying ways. I know this. You know this. Every player here knows this. Hell, even Brie’s player knows this. That doesn’t give you license to bully him until he spergs and derails the whole game for the night, and to do this every other night.
If you wish to continue, know this:
You have lost any kind of benefit of a doubt concerning “banter” with Brie. Any kind of “boop to find white nose disease,” “did you know that bat ponies have aids,” and especially “rolling to bite Brie’s cock off” will be deleted instantly, just as surely as Brie’s inevitable 20+ post rage about it that is going to follow. If targeting a mentally ill person to provoke them into sperging is your only idea of fun, then go to whatever games or discord servers have yet to kick you out, and do it there. Or better yet, go find a homeless person in real life to go poke. I hope he punches you, and you finally feel some real consequences to your actions. You’ve been kicked out of games before for your shitty behavior, and you are not welcome here if you think you’re entitled to do that.
[Read more] No more back and forth spamming of posts that distract from the whole action of the thread. No more “cryptic nonsense,” no more clearly insulting posts, no more harassment. I’m done with it, and it will all be removed from the thread. This is the only option that I feel is at all fair to me and the other five players not involved in the drama. I’m ending this. The quest is themed around communism after all, so if going full Stalin is the only way forward, it will be the way forward.
>>184540
Brie, bro
You know we love you, and we want to keep you around. We understand that you have mental health issues, and among other issues this can cause aggressive behavior. I hope you have noticed that we are willing to extend tolerance and leniency to you that has not come to an end. To some real degree, I’m actually happy to have this game serve as a sort of therapy.
The negativity, and especially the spamming expressed in the thread, however, is coming to an end. No more cryptic nonsense. If you have a problem with a player or me, please make a single direct and to the point post in OOC that gets to the point. One post. Not three posts. Posts numbers two and three will be deleted with no warning nor explanation. Posts about it in the gaming thread will be deleted without explanation. If you think of something that you wished to put in the first post, what you should do instead is to abstain from clicking “new reply” for a minute, and then post what you wanted to say. I am not going to play 20 questions to figure out what Posey did this time. I am not going to lecture you on why we, a bunch of distracted men who are on the autism spectrum, do not understand your subtlety, do not understand the context of what is going on, and do not know what is on your mind. I’m not doing that. You either say what the problem is, or I will shut you up and continue with the game. I am ending the rollercoaster. I am ending the negativity. You can play the pony dating sim, or you can not. You of course have pretty much everyone’s discord DMs, including mine.
If you do not believe that the results of a spot check or other action have been acknowledged, please simply draw attention to the post, which has surely since been buried. I understand that much of your character’s actions are dependent on precise positioning, but we are not playing in person with miniatures and I’m not going to stop combat to force everyone to move figures on a digital map, at least not right now. If you want to bitch about a map, bitch to yourself, because I’m not suffering it. Ask questions about your character’s position.
I am shocked that any of the following needs to be said, but evidently I have to say it:
No threats of any kind will be tolerated and obviously will be deleted immediately. This includes an out of character threat to kill another player character, but obviously also threats of doxxing. Any actual attempt at doxxing will be met with immediate post deletion and a ban from the game and from the website. We’re not showing off discord handles here. This is my game, my game is anonymous. I don’t care if you can name people. We will not be doing that here.
I don’t care if you have longstanding personal grievances with whomever or long histories with people. The only digging up of ancient tombs, or unlocking of ancient evils that will be taking place here is what happens in character in game.
I don’t care about X, we are moving on and playing the game. All off topic negativity will be deleted, the end.
>>184515
I’m not going to respond to the disgrace of a post that was >>184519 because I don’t want to beat an (un)dead horse. All I will say is that I concur with >>184527. If you intended to quit the game because you didn’t like that another player had called you out on your harassment of another player, then you picked the absolute most inglorious hill to die on, and the horrific anti-apology you left out on makes you look worse than even the objectively far more problematic Brie, who actually felt bad and apologized. All you had to do was stop when Brie, and then later me, then Dust, and then Garv told you to stop.
Yes, Brie’s player has mental health problems that express themselves in especially annoying ways. I know this. You know this. Every player here knows this. Hell, even Brie’s player knows this. That doesn’t give you license to bully him until he spergs and derails the whole game for the night, and to do this every other night.
If you wish to continue, know this:
You have lost any kind of benefit of a doubt concerning “banter” with Brie. Any kind of “boop to find white nose disease,” “did you know that bat ponies have aids,” and especially “rolling to bite Brie’s cock off” will be deleted instantly, just as surely as Brie’s inevitable 20+ post rage about it that is going to follow. If targeting a mentally ill person to provoke them into sperging is your only idea of fun, then go to whatever games or discord servers have yet to kick you out, and do it there. Or better yet, go find a homeless person in real life to go poke. I hope he punches you, and you finally feel some real consequences to your actions. You’ve been kicked out of games before for your shitty behavior, and you are not welcome here if you think you’re entitled to do that.
>>184596
>If you intended to quit the game because you didn’t like that another player had called you out on your harassment of another player
Oh, no, I wasn't doing that. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I just had relatives over this week, and decided to take a break from the game. I didn't see any posts about the journals, and people complained about me "relentlessly advancing the plot", so I figured I should just wait for other players or GM to advance it instead.
>the horrific anti-apology you left out
Yeah, that wasn't cool of me. I actually typed out a better reply to Amber's post, but I was in kind of a pissy mood after the doxxing thread and I never actually sent it.
I can respond now, if anyone cares.
>If you intended to quit the game because you didn’t like that another player had called you out on your harassment of another player
Oh, no, I wasn't doing that. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I just had relatives over this week, and decided to take a break from the game. I didn't see any posts about the journals, and people complained about me "relentlessly advancing the plot", so I figured I should just wait for other players or GM to advance it instead.
>the horrific anti-apology you left out
Yeah, that wasn't cool of me. I actually typed out a better reply to Amber's post, but I was in kind of a pissy mood after the doxxing thread and I never actually sent it.
I can respond now, if anyone cares.
>>184597
I will try very hard to move things tonight. Garv’s player is actually available and combat is feasible. Please understand though that I’m still at work m
I will try very hard to move things tonight. Garv’s player is actually available and combat is feasible. Please understand though that I’m still at work m
>>184527
>Finally, look at Posey's excuse of "I've been overworked and frustrated lately" which has become a calling card of internet lolcows who got exposed for something bad. It's all about "me, me me" in that post. "I've been overworked and frustrated" (don't think about the other players who are overworked and frustrated, especially the autistic guy who's had his fun ruined). "Idk why I even joined so many at once" (my problem is that I don't have a good schedule, not having a bad attitude). "I really need to think harder about how I want to spend my limited free time left on this realm..." (sympathy-baiting, and again no mention of fixing bad behavior). "I do want to try Baldur's Gate 3..." (When being told not to treat co-op sessions like a singleplayer game, mentions said singleplayer game but not the problem of treating other players like video game characters).
These are all valid points. I could break them down with more detailed excuses/clarifications/explanations, but it wouldn't make a difference.
>Posey's player is very much aware of these issues and has singled him out like he is a middle school bully and an autistic kid just showed up.
Yeah, I guess that wasn't cool of me, at all.
But to put it from my experience, this is really how I've operated on chansites for my entire adult life. When someone seethes over posting cute ponies, my modus operandi has always been to respond with more cute ponies, because on my end, it's just posting ponies.
Yeah, it's wrong, but I also find it hard to relate to someone who claims to have been on /mlp/ for years and is somehow triggered so much by bat pics that he resorts to doxxing instead of just hiding/ignoring replies.
But I'm in the wrong. What I did was wrong. There's no two ways about it.
>narcissistic not-apologies to try to manipulate us to think it's okay
That isn't how I meant it, but I guess it's the impression that counts.
>He kept on with the joke for far too long until Brie's player bluffed a threat
Well, if you look closer, he actually made the threat immediately after the post where I conceded and said that was the last bat pic I was going to post.
Second, it was not a bluff. It was an actual threat. You can see his post on /test/. He knows information about fellow players through history and moderation position, and he knows at least two other players by name. He walked back his threat because it was so egregious, but the part about it being a bluff was a lie.
And I know my behavior was poor, but I also have reservations about roleplaying with someone who threatened to doxx people over a bunch of bat pony pics. Not just because it targets me, but because he is the kind of person who would threaten my friends in real life over being triggered by images of cute cartoon bats like some kind of 2014 era Tumblr SJW, instead of just closing the tab or hiding the posts like a civilized person. That admittedly makes me seethe with hatred.
>Why do you think Posey has always been teasing Brie specifically and not Cavaliere or Silver
Mostly because they're nice to me.
>>184596
>I’m actually happy to have this game serve as a sort of therapy.
I've been in multiple games like that, and from experience I would prefer it if people leave their mental health issues at the door.
It's not my call to make though.
>That doesn’t give you license to bully him until he spergs and derails the whole game for the night, and to do this every other night.
We weren't playing that night. We were cuteposting about belly rubs in the OOC thread between sessions.
I concede that it doesn't give me license to make fun of people.
[Read more] >Finally, look at Posey's excuse of "I've been overworked and frustrated lately" which has become a calling card of internet lolcows who got exposed for something bad. It's all about "me, me me" in that post. "I've been overworked and frustrated" (don't think about the other players who are overworked and frustrated, especially the autistic guy who's had his fun ruined). "Idk why I even joined so many at once" (my problem is that I don't have a good schedule, not having a bad attitude). "I really need to think harder about how I want to spend my limited free time left on this realm..." (sympathy-baiting, and again no mention of fixing bad behavior). "I do want to try Baldur's Gate 3..." (When being told not to treat co-op sessions like a singleplayer game, mentions said singleplayer game but not the problem of treating other players like video game characters).
These are all valid points. I could break them down with more detailed excuses/clarifications/explanations, but it wouldn't make a difference.
>Posey's player is very much aware of these issues and has singled him out like he is a middle school bully and an autistic kid just showed up.
Yeah, I guess that wasn't cool of me, at all.
But to put it from my experience, this is really how I've operated on chansites for my entire adult life. When someone seethes over posting cute ponies, my modus operandi has always been to respond with more cute ponies, because on my end, it's just posting ponies.
Yeah, it's wrong, but I also find it hard to relate to someone who claims to have been on /mlp/ for years and is somehow triggered so much by bat pics that he resorts to doxxing instead of just hiding/ignoring replies.
But I'm in the wrong. What I did was wrong. There's no two ways about it.
>narcissistic not-apologies to try to manipulate us to think it's okay
That isn't how I meant it, but I guess it's the impression that counts.
>He kept on with the joke for far too long until Brie's player bluffed a threat
Well, if you look closer, he actually made the threat immediately after the post where I conceded and said that was the last bat pic I was going to post.
Second, it was not a bluff. It was an actual threat. You can see his post on /test/. He knows information about fellow players through history and moderation position, and he knows at least two other players by name. He walked back his threat because it was so egregious, but the part about it being a bluff was a lie.
And I know my behavior was poor, but I also have reservations about roleplaying with someone who threatened to doxx people over a bunch of bat pony pics. Not just because it targets me, but because he is the kind of person who would threaten my friends in real life over being triggered by images of cute cartoon bats like some kind of 2014 era Tumblr SJW, instead of just closing the tab or hiding the posts like a civilized person. That admittedly makes me seethe with hatred.
>Why do you think Posey has always been teasing Brie specifically and not Cavaliere or Silver
Mostly because they're nice to me.
>>184596
>I’m actually happy to have this game serve as a sort of therapy.
I've been in multiple games like that, and from experience I would prefer it if people leave their mental health issues at the door.
It's not my call to make though.
>That doesn’t give you license to bully him until he spergs and derails the whole game for the night, and to do this every other night.
We weren't playing that night. We were cuteposting about belly rubs in the OOC thread between sessions.
I concede that it doesn't give me license to make fun of people.
>>184596
I understand
>>184600
>I've been in multiple games like that, and from experience I would prefer it if people leave their mental health issues at the door.
Of all the comments and responses I am contemplating, I am going to otherwise remain 'silent'; until I have sufficiently gathered my thoughts and I dont feel to be interrupting.
Other than to say I agree with this sentiment, and don't feel that this game is an appropriate place for me to 'exercise the demons' so to speak; fwiw I'm making a physical list of every misbehavior (on my part), what caused it, how I can avoid it in the future, and what failsafes are available.
It is tiresome; thats an explanation, not an excuse. You are right to not trust me after how I've behaved. I have the first name of one Anon, and a fair bit of info about another; without going jnto why, I would drive a state over in an emergency at a moment's notice for him. I'll conclude by saying - again an explanation - that while appearances may be deceiving (and with me, thats often deliberate) the idea that I would dox him is absurd. And the one name guy, I dont even know if hes in the same city anymore. I met him one time at a Waffle House and thats as much as I could ever tell about him.
Yes, I have an encyclopaedic memory of past experiences related to discord handles 'and such', no they are not relevant.
[Read more] I understand
>>184600
>I've been in multiple games like that, and from experience I would prefer it if people leave their mental health issues at the door.
Of all the comments and responses I am contemplating, I am going to otherwise remain 'silent'; until I have sufficiently gathered my thoughts and I dont feel to be interrupting.
Other than to say I agree with this sentiment, and don't feel that this game is an appropriate place for me to 'exercise the demons' so to speak; fwiw I'm making a physical list of every misbehavior (on my part), what caused it, how I can avoid it in the future, and what failsafes are available.
It is tiresome; thats an explanation, not an excuse. You are right to not trust me after how I've behaved. I have the first name of one Anon, and a fair bit of info about another; without going jnto why, I would drive a state over in an emergency at a moment's notice for him. I'll conclude by saying - again an explanation - that while appearances may be deceiving (and with me, thats often deliberate) the idea that I would dox him is absurd. And the one name guy, I dont even know if hes in the same city anymore. I met him one time at a Waffle House and thats as much as I could ever tell about him.
Yes, I have an encyclopaedic memory of past experiences related to discord handles 'and such', no they are not relevant.
>>184540
>returning to Mlpol (his idea, not mine).
I really don't know what kind of mental health professional would recommend that their patient spends more time arguing on chansites... I'm not a psychologist, but I think it may be counterproductive.
>I'm the sort of person who needs 'dealt with' in any sort 'particular' way
You know, I am sorry for provoking you.
But you also have to consider that it isn't our job to babysit you and stay wary of you "triggers". This is the first time I've heard the term "trigger" used unironically in the past decade, since I was trolling Tumblr SJWs in the GamerGate era.
Did you do this on /mlp/ and /pol/ too? /mlpol/ is a site that's idealistically supposed to be more hostile to thin-skinned people than 4chan, but realistically the parent boards have a lot more rudeness trolls who will try to mess with your head.
The same is true for /tg/ and /qst/. That's how chansites are.
>one off-hand comment and "target-aquisition computers are calculating every possible vector of apporpach, which we've identified 5 active probable maneuvers, moving to intercept, engage countermeasures.
You describe yourself like you're some sort of nuclear doomsday device, but you still want people to interact with you. How are we supposed to respond to that?
On 4chan, if you act like that, you would just get memed-on until you grow up, leave, or become a lolcow.
You have to compromise here. You have to be willing to operate in good faith with at least a fraction of the edgy shitposting and trolling atmosphere that a chansite is supposed to have.
I can try on my end, but meet me in the middle.
[Read more] >returning to Mlpol (his idea, not mine).
I really don't know what kind of mental health professional would recommend that their patient spends more time arguing on chansites... I'm not a psychologist, but I think it may be counterproductive.
>I'm the sort of person who needs 'dealt with' in any sort 'particular' way
You know, I am sorry for provoking you.
But you also have to consider that it isn't our job to babysit you and stay wary of you "triggers". This is the first time I've heard the term "trigger" used unironically in the past decade, since I was trolling Tumblr SJWs in the GamerGate era.
Did you do this on /mlp/ and /pol/ too? /mlpol/ is a site that's idealistically supposed to be more hostile to thin-skinned people than 4chan, but realistically the parent boards have a lot more rudeness trolls who will try to mess with your head.
The same is true for /tg/ and /qst/. That's how chansites are.
>one off-hand comment and "target-aquisition computers are calculating every possible vector of apporpach, which we've identified 5 active probable maneuvers, moving to intercept, engage countermeasures.
You describe yourself like you're some sort of nuclear doomsday device, but you still want people to interact with you. How are we supposed to respond to that?
On 4chan, if you act like that, you would just get memed-on until you grow up, leave, or become a lolcow.
You have to compromise here. You have to be willing to operate in good faith with at least a fraction of the edgy shitposting and trolling atmosphere that a chansite is supposed to have.
I can try on my end, but meet me in the middle.
>>184600
> Second, it was not a bluff. It was an actual threat. You can see his post on /test/. He knows information about fellow players through history and moderation position, and he knows at least two other players by name.
I think he’s talking about discord handles, which he does know. Being a moderator doesn’t give you magic knowledge. That’s not how it works. I do not think it was a legitimate threat.
He was making the empty threat because he thought it was the only way to make me and also the other players get you to stop deliberately targeting him.
> When someone seethes over posting cute ponies, my modus operandi has always been to respond with more cute ponies, because on my end, it's just posting ponies.
Yes. He picked the absolute dumbest fucking thing to get triggered over. It was impossible to take him seriously at first.
I don’t believe that his reaction was actually because the cute ponies pissed him off. What pissed him off is that he already believed that you had been targeting him, and your behavior that night confirmed that you had to me, to Garv, and to him. I read back through the thread. He said “stop” in unambiguous terms, and then you continued through multiple posts.
> I also find it hard to relate to someone who claims to have been on /mlp/ for years and is somehow triggered so much by bat pics that he resorts to doxxing instead of just hiding/ignoring replies.
> he is the kind of person who would threaten my friends in real life over being triggered by images of cute cartoon bats like some kind of 2014 era Tumblr SJW, instead of just closing the tab or hiding the posts like a civilized person. That admittedly makes me seethe with hatred.
It wasn’t about the bats. It was becau you had previously done the “bat aids” thing. Because you had done the “bite Brie’s cock off” thing just three nights before. Because of probably similar instances that Brie had noticed that I didn’t. Just that same morning, when we told him to stop being fucking cryptic and say what you mean, Brie’s player came out and said that his problem was that he believed that you had been targeting him and harassing him. Then this happened, and confirmed it. You even outright admitted it; you were “trolling him.” He’s not pissed off about the ponies. He’s pissed off that another player is harassing him with impunity. He chose the nuclear option because he thought that if he didn’t force the issue to a head, it would never stop.
I honestly don’t think his intent was to threaten you. I think his intention was to get the attention of me and the other players, so that way we’d make you stop doing the thing you’ve been doing consistently and with impunity for weeks.
Also, as stated, any kinds of threats going forward will not be tolerated, including ones I’ve let slide so far like “I’ll kill your character.” So this is not going to happen again.
>I've been in multiple games like that, and from experience I would prefer it if people leave their mental health issues at the door.
Allow me to rephrase. This will be an environment where he can have positive interactions with other people. This is not an environment where he can be hostile to other people. I’ll accept the good part of the manic. I will not accept the bad.
> We weren't playing that night. We were cuteposting about belly rubs in the OOC thread between sessions.
But it did ruin the night for everyone.
>>184602
>You describe yourself like you're some sort of nuclear doomsday device, but you still want people to interact with you. How are we supposed to respond to that?
He was talking about (You). You finding his buttons and pressing them. He was not describing himself there.
[Read more] > Second, it was not a bluff. It was an actual threat. You can see his post on /test/. He knows information about fellow players through history and moderation position, and he knows at least two other players by name.
I think he’s talking about discord handles, which he does know. Being a moderator doesn’t give you magic knowledge. That’s not how it works. I do not think it was a legitimate threat.
He was making the empty threat because he thought it was the only way to make me and also the other players get you to stop deliberately targeting him.
> When someone seethes over posting cute ponies, my modus operandi has always been to respond with more cute ponies, because on my end, it's just posting ponies.
Yes. He picked the absolute dumbest fucking thing to get triggered over. It was impossible to take him seriously at first.
I don’t believe that his reaction was actually because the cute ponies pissed him off. What pissed him off is that he already believed that you had been targeting him, and your behavior that night confirmed that you had to me, to Garv, and to him. I read back through the thread. He said “stop” in unambiguous terms, and then you continued through multiple posts.
> I also find it hard to relate to someone who claims to have been on /mlp/ for years and is somehow triggered so much by bat pics that he resorts to doxxing instead of just hiding/ignoring replies.
> he is the kind of person who would threaten my friends in real life over being triggered by images of cute cartoon bats like some kind of 2014 era Tumblr SJW, instead of just closing the tab or hiding the posts like a civilized person. That admittedly makes me seethe with hatred.
It wasn’t about the bats. It was becau you had previously done the “bat aids” thing. Because you had done the “bite Brie’s cock off” thing just three nights before. Because of probably similar instances that Brie had noticed that I didn’t. Just that same morning, when we told him to stop being fucking cryptic and say what you mean, Brie’s player came out and said that his problem was that he believed that you had been targeting him and harassing him. Then this happened, and confirmed it. You even outright admitted it; you were “trolling him.” He’s not pissed off about the ponies. He’s pissed off that another player is harassing him with impunity. He chose the nuclear option because he thought that if he didn’t force the issue to a head, it would never stop.
I honestly don’t think his intent was to threaten you. I think his intention was to get the attention of me and the other players, so that way we’d make you stop doing the thing you’ve been doing consistently and with impunity for weeks.
Also, as stated, any kinds of threats going forward will not be tolerated, including ones I’ve let slide so far like “I’ll kill your character.” So this is not going to happen again.
>I've been in multiple games like that, and from experience I would prefer it if people leave their mental health issues at the door.
Allow me to rephrase. This will be an environment where he can have positive interactions with other people. This is not an environment where he can be hostile to other people. I’ll accept the good part of the manic. I will not accept the bad.
> We weren't playing that night. We were cuteposting about belly rubs in the OOC thread between sessions.
But it did ruin the night for everyone.
>>184602
>You describe yourself like you're some sort of nuclear doomsday device, but you still want people to interact with you. How are we supposed to respond to that?
He was talking about (You). You finding his buttons and pressing them. He was not describing himself there.
>>184602
I understand. I can offer you further explanation if you would like, but I feel I have said plenty already and would prefer to marinate on everything.
I understand. I can offer you further explanation if you would like, but I feel I have said plenty already and would prefer to marinate on everything.
>>184603
Actually, no, he read that accurately. I don't mean it literally, but in a sense thats an accurate analogy. As you accurately describe, I felt he was being enabled to abuse with impugnity; I felt if he was being allowed to push my buttons, I was allowed to push everyone's. I could blogpost about how this is a conditioned self defense mechanism that A. Incentivized people that I was not 'the one', whether it was bullies/abusers or the people with either the social or literal authority to do something about 'this', and B. Created a negative feedback loop that quite honestly I'm glad to have had to experience because now I have the presence of mind to be aware of it.
Actually, no, he read that accurately. I don't mean it literally, but in a sense thats an accurate analogy. As you accurately describe, I felt he was being enabled to abuse with impugnity; I felt if he was being allowed to push my buttons, I was allowed to push everyone's. I could blogpost about how this is a conditioned self defense mechanism that A. Incentivized people that I was not 'the one', whether it was bullies/abusers or the people with either the social or literal authority to do something about 'this', and B. Created a negative feedback loop that quite honestly I'm glad to have had to experience because now I have the presence of mind to be aware of it.
>>184602
>I should be allowed to harass a specific player I don’t like because Chan culture is supposed to be about tough skin.
Okay, first of all, you are the pussy little bitch that blinked and couldn’t handle it. Every insult you gave, Brie gave back five fold. Every time you escalated it, he took it further. You are the one who blinked because you couldn’t handle a doxxing threat. Don’t you know that people who participate in social media flame wars on Twitter or 4chan get doxxed? That’s the stupid fucking game you want to play? Well that’s the stupid fucking prize you win. You go be a dumbass on social media, you get doxxed. You get what you fucking deserve. Brie has thicker skin than you.
Second, (You) don’t get to be the gate keeper of actions here. I do. This is mine. And I say that we aren’t stopping everything because you two want to have flame wars because you think that’s what Chan sites are for. I don’t care what you allege is acceptable on 4chan and what you claim you haven’t been kicked or banned for doing. I have let you two go at each other like the Teumessian fox and Laelaps. It’s not fun for me. Garv, Dark Star, and Dust have complained about it. I’m ending it.
>I should be allowed to harass a specific player I don’t like because Chan culture is supposed to be about tough skin.
Okay, first of all, you are the pussy little bitch that blinked and couldn’t handle it. Every insult you gave, Brie gave back five fold. Every time you escalated it, he took it further. You are the one who blinked because you couldn’t handle a doxxing threat. Don’t you know that people who participate in social media flame wars on Twitter or 4chan get doxxed? That’s the stupid fucking game you want to play? Well that’s the stupid fucking prize you win. You go be a dumbass on social media, you get doxxed. You get what you fucking deserve. Brie has thicker skin than you.
Second, (You) don’t get to be the gate keeper of actions here. I do. This is mine. And I say that we aren’t stopping everything because you two want to have flame wars because you think that’s what Chan sites are for. I don’t care what you allege is acceptable on 4chan and what you claim you haven’t been kicked or banned for doing. I have let you two go at each other like the Teumessian fox and Laelaps. It’s not fun for me. Garv, Dark Star, and Dust have complained about it. I’m ending it.
>>184606
>I should be allowed to harass a specific player I don’t like because Chan culture is supposed to be about tough skin
That's not really how I meant it.
>You are the one who blinked because you couldn’t handle a doxxing threat.
Imo, that's the only appropriate way to handle a doxxing threat.
It wasn't even a threat to me. He has no information on me. I was just pissed off, and decided I didn't want to interact with him, at least not until the RP thread was updated. I think that's a reasonable response. I had other PbP games to post in, my own content I'm writing, and even a book I wanted to finish before the year.
Of course, I could have just doubled down and flamed even harder, like I was tempted to, but Dust's player was really bothered by it, so I decided to just fuck off.
>You go be a dumbass on social media, you get doxxed. You get what you fucking deserve.
I already said it wasn't about me, it was about my friends.
>Brie has thicker skin than you.
I disagree.
>Second, (You) don’t get to be the gate keeper of actions here. I do. This is mine.
I never contested that.
[Read more] >I should be allowed to harass a specific player I don’t like because Chan culture is supposed to be about tough skin
That's not really how I meant it.
>You are the one who blinked because you couldn’t handle a doxxing threat.
Imo, that's the only appropriate way to handle a doxxing threat.
It wasn't even a threat to me. He has no information on me. I was just pissed off, and decided I didn't want to interact with him, at least not until the RP thread was updated. I think that's a reasonable response. I had other PbP games to post in, my own content I'm writing, and even a book I wanted to finish before the year.
Of course, I could have just doubled down and flamed even harder, like I was tempted to, but Dust's player was really bothered by it, so I decided to just fuck off.
>You go be a dumbass on social media, you get doxxed. You get what you fucking deserve.
I already said it wasn't about me, it was about my friends.
>Brie has thicker skin than you.
I disagree.
>Second, (You) don’t get to be the gate keeper of actions here. I do. This is mine.
I never contested that.
>>184606
>blinked
The way you put it implies that walking away when a flame war turns ugly is a bad/cowardly thing. Is that really what you're saying? Was I supposed to double down? Threaten to dox him? Just continue flaming?
There's a point when enough is enough. I decided that it wasn't worth my time.
>blinked
The way you put it implies that walking away when a flame war turns ugly is a bad/cowardly thing. Is that really what you're saying? Was I supposed to double down? Threaten to dox him? Just continue flaming?
There's a point when enough is enough. I decided that it wasn't worth my time.
>>184608
>I decided that it wasn't worth my time
Not trying to be catty, just specifying that thats what I was after to begin with
>I decided that it wasn't worth my time
Not trying to be catty, just specifying that thats what I was after to begin with
>>184609
You knew it wasn't worth your time? Then why didn't you just stop posting, and I stead chose to involve other players personal information in your shitfit?
You knew it wasn't worth your time? Then why didn't you just stop posting, and I stead chose to involve other players personal information in your shitfit?
I'm just glad it sounds like you two have come to an understanding!
>>184607
>>184608
I’m saying don’t go up to someone, punch them in the face, and then act morally appalled when they pull out a knife. The game you so willingly play (the dumbass online trolling game) is not one that you get to referee or define the limits of. Jesus Christ. “He cries in pain as he strikes you” comes to mind.
>I have better things to do than to be here with you all
Then do those things instead of intentionally posting things to cause Brie’s player to spreg, so that way we don’t have to suffer through the sperginh (again). Let us be in peace.
>>184608
I’m saying don’t go up to someone, punch them in the face, and then act morally appalled when they pull out a knife. The game you so willingly play (the dumbass online trolling game) is not one that you get to referee or define the limits of. Jesus Christ. “He cries in pain as he strikes you” comes to mind.
>I have better things to do than to be here with you all
Then do those things instead of intentionally posting things to cause Brie’s player to spreg, so that way we don’t have to suffer through the sperginh (again). Let us be in peace.
>>184613
I think I can avoid sperging, now that it has been realized that there has been a more-involved-than-previously-realized cause.
I think I can avoid sperging, now that it has been realized that there has been a more-involved-than-previously-realized cause.
>>184608
>There's a point when enough is enough. I decided that it wasn't worth my time.
That point should have been Brie posted “Stop.”
>when a flame war turns ugly
Flame wars are always ugly!
I don’t want them in my thread.
>There's a point when enough is enough. I decided that it wasn't worth my time.
That point should have been Brie posted “Stop.”
>when a flame war turns ugly
Flame wars are always ugly!
I don’t want them in my thread.
>>184616
>>184608
Flame wars are bad! Don’t fucking start them! Don’t start a damned fire and go “oh, it’s going to burn me now. Boy I’m so glad I have other play by post games that haven’t banned me for being the horrific, arsonist faggot I am yet. Better go over there now that I’ve ruined things here!”
You’re making me sperg now
>>184608
Flame wars are bad! Don’t fucking start them! Don’t start a damned fire and go “oh, it’s going to burn me now. Boy I’m so glad I have other play by post games that haven’t banned me for being the horrific, arsonist faggot I am yet. Better go over there now that I’ve ruined things here!”
You’re making me sperg now
While not speculatively accusing, its plausible if left unaddressed, "bites off Brie's cock" leads to later jibes about dicklessness; not hard to imagine, and thats only one set of 'shitposts' that make one player's experience turn very dark and mean real quick, and the people around still laughing and having fun gets hard to resent. I see how the pattern plays out even if no actual malice is intended. I know (ish) how to get through it without losing my shit.
Trust me, its fucking embarrassing to be a grown ass man admitting to being triggered and having unironic triggers ESPECIALLY around here.
Trust me, its fucking embarrassing to be a grown ass man admitting to being triggered and having unironic triggers ESPECIALLY around here.
>>184611
You absolute nigger.
In any other context, I wouldn't care about a doxxing threat. You think I haven't had that before? I "blinked" because unlike you I have a sense of boundaries, and respect for Dust's player, who was very bothered by it. But of course you don't care about him.
>>184613
>I’m saying don’t go up to someone, punch them in the face, and then act morally appalled when they pull out a knife.
No, but I would be morally appalled if they used that knife to take a random grandma on the street hostage.
>>184615
I literally don't believe you.
>>184617
>it’s going to burn me now
It wasn't going to burn me. He was threatening other players. I'm not afraid of him at all, but I don't like niggers who would take unrelated people hostage for their bullshit.
>>184603
>I think he’s talking about discord handles, which he does know. Being a moderator doesn’t give you magic knowledge. That’s not how it works. I do not think it was a legitimate threat.
>He was making the empty threat because he thought it was the only way to make me and also the other players get you to stop deliberately targeting him.
He knows a LOT more about you and some of the other players than you might be aware of, a lot more than what you would be comfortable with if you knew....
I kno because he mentioned it me, despite my unwillingness to humor it, in DMs. DMs that I would have preferred to ignore, but it has been repeatedly brought up anyway despite my protests.
>harassment
You know, this really goes both ways...
Months before he even joined, he was pinging me in DMs calling out my roleplay posts in thread, and trying to make me feel terrible about playing this game? Saying that he felt "betrayed" and "disappointed" in me from my participation, and taking it personally because he hates (You) and wanted to punish me by proxy. He would always randomly ping me for not contacting him, shame/goad me into oversharing information about my personal struggles, or give me unsolicited shitposts about the progress of his fursuit; and then he would act judgemental and mean spam-pinging me because I dared to play a PbP game on this site, or because he didn't feel appreciated that evening, or because he was drunk, or because a meme I sent in an attempt to be friendly didn't meet his artistic standards. And that's when he wasn't trying to drag me into another one of his passive-aggressive pissing contests with the site mods over stuff that still angers him from 7 years ago. I eventually just blocked him outright because his behavior devolved into the same sort of cryptic spam he shits up these threads with, where he gives vague mildly ominous suggestions of what he thinks, and then acts offended if you don't immediately understand what he's thinking.
And then, after having told me that he was done with tabletop games forever, he joined this game, after shaming me for playing with you, and then started shitting up these threads with the same kind of cryptic spam and taking memes personally, bringing all that touchy unfun negativity with him.
He's been obnoxious, unfun, and unapproachable since before he joined this game, going crazy if you try to interact with him, or if you neglect to interact with him. He also refuses to allow me to approach the game from an anonymous angle. Every single session he references things from DMs or prior games that nobody ever asked for.
I have for the longest time tried to appease his schizoid persona, but I realized that that was a fool's errand with no way to win, so I just defaulted to treating him like I would treat any other touchy faggot on /qst/.
And I know that's the wrong way to approach it, but I have my own problems that I'm working on.
[Read more] You absolute nigger.
In any other context, I wouldn't care about a doxxing threat. You think I haven't had that before? I "blinked" because unlike you I have a sense of boundaries, and respect for Dust's player, who was very bothered by it. But of course you don't care about him.
>>184613
>I’m saying don’t go up to someone, punch them in the face, and then act morally appalled when they pull out a knife.
No, but I would be morally appalled if they used that knife to take a random grandma on the street hostage.
>>184615
I literally don't believe you.
>>184617
>it’s going to burn me now
It wasn't going to burn me. He was threatening other players. I'm not afraid of him at all, but I don't like niggers who would take unrelated people hostage for their bullshit.
>>184603
>I think he’s talking about discord handles, which he does know. Being a moderator doesn’t give you magic knowledge. That’s not how it works. I do not think it was a legitimate threat.
>He was making the empty threat because he thought it was the only way to make me and also the other players get you to stop deliberately targeting him.
He knows a LOT more about you and some of the other players than you might be aware of, a lot more than what you would be comfortable with if you knew....
I kno because he mentioned it me, despite my unwillingness to humor it, in DMs. DMs that I would have preferred to ignore, but it has been repeatedly brought up anyway despite my protests.
>harassment
You know, this really goes both ways...
Months before he even joined, he was pinging me in DMs calling out my roleplay posts in thread, and trying to make me feel terrible about playing this game? Saying that he felt "betrayed" and "disappointed" in me from my participation, and taking it personally because he hates (You) and wanted to punish me by proxy. He would always randomly ping me for not contacting him, shame/goad me into oversharing information about my personal struggles, or give me unsolicited shitposts about the progress of his fursuit; and then he would act judgemental and mean spam-pinging me because I dared to play a PbP game on this site, or because he didn't feel appreciated that evening, or because he was drunk, or because a meme I sent in an attempt to be friendly didn't meet his artistic standards. And that's when he wasn't trying to drag me into another one of his passive-aggressive pissing contests with the site mods over stuff that still angers him from 7 years ago. I eventually just blocked him outright because his behavior devolved into the same sort of cryptic spam he shits up these threads with, where he gives vague mildly ominous suggestions of what he thinks, and then acts offended if you don't immediately understand what he's thinking.
And then, after having told me that he was done with tabletop games forever, he joined this game, after shaming me for playing with you, and then started shitting up these threads with the same kind of cryptic spam and taking memes personally, bringing all that touchy unfun negativity with him.
He's been obnoxious, unfun, and unapproachable since before he joined this game, going crazy if you try to interact with him, or if you neglect to interact with him. He also refuses to allow me to approach the game from an anonymous angle. Every single session he references things from DMs or prior games that nobody ever asked for.
I have for the longest time tried to appease his schizoid persona, but I realized that that was a fool's errand with no way to win, so I just defaulted to treating him like I would treat any other touchy faggot on /qst/.
And I know that's the wrong way to approach it, but I have my own problems that I'm working on.
>>184620
>unlike you I have a sense of boundaries
That is not evident
>I literally don't believe you.
Anticipated, and the feeling is mutual fwiw, without any animus.
>unlike you I have a sense of boundaries
That is not evident
>I literally don't believe you.
Anticipated, and the feeling is mutual fwiw, without any animus.
>>184620
> No, but I would be morally appalled if they used that knife to take a random grandma on the street hostage.
Can you just not fucking start the fight that ends in the grandma getting shanked?
You start these fights and throw gasoline on them. They aren’t fun for us.
> It wasn't going to burn me. He was threatening other players. I'm not afraid of him at all, but I don't like niggers who would take unrelated people hostage for their bullshit.
And I don’t like when you take my whole game hostage because you want to provoke him to start a fight
> He knows a LOT more about you and some of the other players than you might be aware of, a lot more than what you would be comfortable with if you knew....
Well that’s unsettling
> he was pinging me in DMs calling out my roleplay posts in thread
That’s unsettling, but I can’t control discord. I would like to leave discord drama on discord as much as we can.
>I eventually just blocked him outright because his behavior devolved into the same sort of cryptic spam he shits up these threads with
Problem solved
> He's been obnoxious, unfun, and unapproachable since before he joined this game, going crazy if you try to interact with him, or if you neglect to interact with him. He also refuses to allow me to approach the game from an anonymous angle.
These are all fair. Please allow me to deal with them. Whatever you do, please don’t deliberately harass him. You make it worse. I am going to be more proactive than before.
> Every single session he references things from DMs or prior games that nobody ever asked for.
I am ending this.
> I just defaulted to treating him like I would treat any other touchy faggot on /qst/.
No. We are not going to do this.
>I’ve tried to appease his schizoid persona
Please don’t try to be the bogey man to him. That isn’t fun for us.
>>184622
Nope. Ending this.
[Read more] > No, but I would be morally appalled if they used that knife to take a random grandma on the street hostage.
Can you just not fucking start the fight that ends in the grandma getting shanked?
You start these fights and throw gasoline on them. They aren’t fun for us.
> It wasn't going to burn me. He was threatening other players. I'm not afraid of him at all, but I don't like niggers who would take unrelated people hostage for their bullshit.
And I don’t like when you take my whole game hostage because you want to provoke him to start a fight
> He knows a LOT more about you and some of the other players than you might be aware of, a lot more than what you would be comfortable with if you knew....
Well that’s unsettling
> he was pinging me in DMs calling out my roleplay posts in thread
That’s unsettling, but I can’t control discord. I would like to leave discord drama on discord as much as we can.
>I eventually just blocked him outright because his behavior devolved into the same sort of cryptic spam he shits up these threads with
Problem solved
> He's been obnoxious, unfun, and unapproachable since before he joined this game, going crazy if you try to interact with him, or if you neglect to interact with him. He also refuses to allow me to approach the game from an anonymous angle.
These are all fair. Please allow me to deal with them. Whatever you do, please don’t deliberately harass him. You make it worse. I am going to be more proactive than before.
> Every single session he references things from DMs or prior games that nobody ever asked for.
I am ending this.
> I just defaulted to treating him like I would treat any other touchy faggot on /qst/.
No. We are not going to do this.
>I’ve tried to appease his schizoid persona
Please don’t try to be the bogey man to him. That isn’t fun for us.
>>184622
Nope. Ending this.
>>184600
>We weren't playing that night. We were cuteposting about belly rubs in the OOC thread between sessions.
Other parts of this post have been addressed, but I can tell you that we absolutely were. We had all the players lined up and we were waiting on the GM to kick things off. Then this popped off and it made the entire game unplayable. It's not just a danger to a single gaming night either. Both Dark Star and Sven have returned after a long hiatus and don't want any more drama. Dust has expressed that he gets physically ill from the drama. Brie is the deliberate target and is also back from a hiatus. Silver's player and myself seem intent on sticking "through thick and thin" so to speak, but that would leave only us and (you) to continue the game, in the midst of a group quest. I could not blame them for leaving either. Risking four out of seven players leaving isn't worth it for "le ebin trolling."
>>184620
>DMs
This is all stuff you should talk over privately with GM Pone. Obviously this gets too personal to share with the rest of us, let alone any casual reader.
>We weren't playing that night. We were cuteposting about belly rubs in the OOC thread between sessions.
Other parts of this post have been addressed, but I can tell you that we absolutely were. We had all the players lined up and we were waiting on the GM to kick things off. Then this popped off and it made the entire game unplayable. It's not just a danger to a single gaming night either. Both Dark Star and Sven have returned after a long hiatus and don't want any more drama. Dust has expressed that he gets physically ill from the drama. Brie is the deliberate target and is also back from a hiatus. Silver's player and myself seem intent on sticking "through thick and thin" so to speak, but that would leave only us and (you) to continue the game, in the midst of a group quest. I could not blame them for leaving either. Risking four out of seven players leaving isn't worth it for "le ebin trolling."
>>184620
>DMs
This is all stuff you should talk over privately with GM Pone. Obviously this gets too personal to share with the rest of us, let alone any casual reader.
>>184623
>> He knows a LOT more about you and some of the other players than you might be aware of, a lot more than what you would be comfortable with if you knew....
>Well that’s unsettling
>>he was pinging me in DMs calling out my roleplay posts in thread
>That’s unsettling, but I can’t control discord. I would like to leave discord drama on discord as much as we can.
Just to clarify: I know factoids. I know what one of your jobs is. I know what another's field of study was, several years ago. I know how old another is. I know the TYPE of business one USED to work at.
I know tiny bits about each - much of which is out of date - but not enough to even be able to get a sophisticated AI to figure out who anyone is. I wouldn't try regardless, but you can't 'know' that so I appreciate why it seems so effective a threat, and I will admit to have made the threat with conscious awareness of all of this. I acknowledge this to be highly toxic behavior. There is no justification.
>> He knows a LOT more about you and some of the other players than you might be aware of, a lot more than what you would be comfortable with if you knew....
>Well that’s unsettling
>>he was pinging me in DMs calling out my roleplay posts in thread
>That’s unsettling, but I can’t control discord. I would like to leave discord drama on discord as much as we can.
Just to clarify: I know factoids. I know what one of your jobs is. I know what another's field of study was, several years ago. I know how old another is. I know the TYPE of business one USED to work at.
I know tiny bits about each - much of which is out of date - but not enough to even be able to get a sophisticated AI to figure out who anyone is. I wouldn't try regardless, but you can't 'know' that so I appreciate why it seems so effective a threat, and I will admit to have made the threat with conscious awareness of all of this. I acknowledge this to be highly toxic behavior. There is no justification.
>>184627
I hope to provide clarity/honesty at this point, most emphatically/expressly where the fault is mine, but am ready to kiss and make up (not trying/inviting making it weird e_e)
I hope to provide clarity/honesty at this point, most emphatically/expressly where the fault is mine, but am ready to kiss and make up (not trying/inviting making it weird e_e)
>>184620
One final thought, appreciating you don't/shouldn't believe me. It was your willingness to play and my inability to comprehend that was the Archduke Ferdinand catalyst that led to me currently being present for one, and in therapy with actual necessary medication, fwiw.
Not that adderal is being made sufficiently available e_e, but a clinical diagnosis alongside a perception of 'normalcy' I didnt know existed has been gamechanging. That there exist medications that can grant me a sensation of calm control when I can't manage on my own is likewise, and having someone who is - while expensive - sufficiently qualified to address my list of overdue magazines while giving me the space to speak emphatically, justifiably, and comprehensibly to someone who ISNT a mind-virus, is doubly huge.
One final thought, appreciating you don't/shouldn't believe me. It was your willingness to play and my inability to comprehend that was the Archduke Ferdinand catalyst that led to me currently being present for one, and in therapy with actual necessary medication, fwiw.
Not that adderal is being made sufficiently available e_e, but a clinical diagnosis alongside a perception of 'normalcy' I didnt know existed has been gamechanging. That there exist medications that can grant me a sensation of calm control when I can't manage on my own is likewise, and having someone who is - while expensive - sufficiently qualified to address my list of overdue magazines while giving me the space to speak emphatically, justifiably, and comprehensibly to someone who ISNT a mind-virus, is doubly huge.
>>184631
Being that the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand kicked off WW2, what I at the time wanted to pretend was the assassination of the person I had anticipated you to be led to a whole lot of introspection that led me to a variety of conclusions, most namely how wrong I had been about y'all among a whole lot of other things, including the necessity to talk to a professional about what I am told is a personal background it is statistically impossible to not have unresolved issues about, and I trust that it isnt just profit motive when he says that.
Being that the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand kicked off WW2, what I at the time wanted to pretend was the assassination of the person I had anticipated you to be led to a whole lot of introspection that led me to a variety of conclusions, most namely how wrong I had been about y'all among a whole lot of other things, including the necessity to talk to a professional about what I am told is a personal background it is statistically impossible to not have unresolved issues about, and I trust that it isnt just profit motive when he says that.
>>184632
Also quick word. He didn't say I should go shitpost on chansites, Ive mentioned all of you in the context of online gaming. He had the presence of mind to observe... things I was allowing myself to overlook about how important y'all are, to so readily mention you so often, especially about times I was happy
Also quick word. He didn't say I should go shitpost on chansites, Ive mentioned all of you in the context of online gaming. He had the presence of mind to observe... things I was allowing myself to overlook about how important y'all are, to so readily mention you so often, especially about times I was happy
>>184632
>I had anticipated you to be led to a whole lot of introspection
..........................!
I said I would try, so I'm not going to post what I just typed now...
>I had anticipated you to be led to a whole lot of introspection
..........................!
I said I would try, so I'm not going to post what I just typed now...
>>184634
Don't be such a huffy fluffy wufflekins. He's saying "The assassination of the person I anticipated you to be" lead him to introspection. Not that he thought that you'd be led to introspection. God forbid you learn that le ebin trolling doesn't make you a badass...
Don't be such a huffy fluffy wufflekins. He's saying "The assassination of the person I anticipated you to be" lead him to introspection. Not that he thought that you'd be led to introspection. God forbid you learn that le ebin trolling doesn't make you a badass...
>>184640
Is this maybe a discussion that should be had elsewhere? Where it's more private?
Is this maybe a discussion that should be had elsewhere? Where it's more private?
>>184642
Okay…
Okay…
>>184645
I missed it fwiw
I missed it fwiw
>>184648
Rhymes with Best, starts with T? Saged in a late-page thread?
Rhymes with Best, starts with T? Saged in a late-page thread?
>>184650
Brie's player and Posey's player know each other on Dicksword, and you know Brie's player there. The three of you sorting it out in private is your best option.
Brie's player and Posey's player know each other on Dicksword, and you know Brie's player there. The three of you sorting it out in private is your best option.
>>184652
For reasons, its not. I am aware of ways that I have onus toward Posey that they are disinclined to discuss publicly OR privately. They may feel a way about any/all/more, but there are instances Im aware of that in his shoes I would feel a way about.
For reasons, its not. I am aware of ways that I have onus toward Posey that they are disinclined to discuss publicly OR privately. They may feel a way about any/all/more, but there are instances Im aware of that in his shoes I would feel a way about.
To Posey's player:
I hear you.
Jesus Christ...
I hear you.
Jesus Christ...
>>184657
I hope through cons that we meet one day. You dont have to identify urself, but Ill be obvious. I hope to make u soft tacos. Im sorry, otherwise.
I hope through cons that we meet one day. You dont have to identify urself, but Ill be obvious. I hope to make u soft tacos. Im sorry, otherwise.
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