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>>182861
I know that feeling. It's painful.
Sometimes I'll spend weeks researching build options for exactly what I want to do, but then when it comes to actually putting stuff on my sheet I get impulsive and fill it with useless garbage just because I wanted to try something new.
You could consider retraining/rebuilding though.
I know that feeling. It's painful.
Sometimes I'll spend weeks researching build options for exactly what I want to do, but then when it comes to actually putting stuff on my sheet I get impulsive and fill it with useless garbage just because I wanted to try something new.
You could consider retraining/rebuilding though.
>>182870 →
>Im fine with any use magic device checks also
Oh good, you recognize the best skill in the game. I got UMD as a class skill through the Apprentice feat, but I didn't have enough skill points to rank it up.
>Im fine with any use magic device checks also
Oh good, you recognize the best skill in the game. I got UMD as a class skill through the Apprentice feat, but I didn't have enough skill points to rank it up.
>>182872
Ngl, I'm curious if I can even get the polearm to work. Brie simply doesnt 'get' magic (obviously), in the same sense that Han Solo doesn't 'get' the force. There are obvious applications - enhancements convenience magic and what not - but REALLY complicated magic is something he thinks is more of a fairy tale.
For example, if Rosey were to just "say" her undead nature, Brie would first not believe her (in spite having observed evidence of her regeneration and the vomiting of blood) and would then have a breakdown realizing that sort of thing is very real AND right in front of him
Ngl, I'm curious if I can even get the polearm to work. Brie simply doesnt 'get' magic (obviously), in the same sense that Han Solo doesn't 'get' the force. There are obvious applications - enhancements convenience magic and what not - but REALLY complicated magic is something he thinks is more of a fairy tale.
For example, if Rosey were to just "say" her undead nature, Brie would first not believe her (in spite having observed evidence of her regeneration and the vomiting of blood) and would then have a breakdown realizing that sort of thing is very real AND right in front of him
>>182878
Most magic weapons work as you swing them.
However, if the weapon has an unknown command word or similar trigger for a use activation, your UMD check should make it work, and reveal the activation method
In case a bolt of lightning surges put it it... Just assume it's aimed at Posey and nopony else.
Most magic weapons work as you swing them.
However, if the weapon has an unknown command word or similar trigger for a use activation, your UMD check should make it work, and reveal the activation method
In case a bolt of lightning surges put it it... Just assume it's aimed at Posey and nopony else.
>>182880
>aim it at Posey
Uhm, he wouldnt aim a device he is unsure of at anypony,... unless he really didnt like them
>aim it at Posey
Uhm, he wouldnt aim a device he is unsure of at anypony,... unless he really didnt like them
>>180954
Pertaining to your bat shopkeeper, or "Lacey", as you call her.
Your character is in concept very similar to the character that I was going to make as my cohort: the ghoul bat, who represents the Black Horse of Famine/Inflation, specialized in the business side of d&d and smuggling. I understand that it is frustrating for someone else to make a character of the same race and similar class/archetype in the same party, so I will refrain from doing so.
Instead, I propose a compromise: what if we merged and co-owned the character?
You said you wanted to roleplay a shopkeeper/smuggler, but you weren't interested in the mechanical aspects of running a business in 3.5e. I have an opposite situation: I was very much in dabbling with the mechanical side of 3.5e business management, but idk if I have the free time to commit to roleplaying multiple characters at once (also, the character I was going to make is ultra evil, and DM didn't seem to like it).
So what if we, instead, co-owned the character as so?
You receive:
>Full creative license for the character's personality and backstory
>Opportunity to roleplay the character in and out of combat scenarios
>Opportunity to roleplay the character in any scenario/emcounter rolled on the DMGII business development tables
>Decision making authority for how to manage the business/guild
>Suggestion to request mechanical abilities on the character sheet
>Veto authority for egregious mechanical traits that break the character's theme
>The majority of the profits from the business to spend as you see fit
>Accounting services: no need to manage the character sheet or profit checks related to the business
>Promise of cooperation: Posey and her undead minions will comply with the needs of your business, within reason.
I receive:
>Opportunity to build a character sheet that is optimized for business management, shopkeeping, and general in-city roleplay support (class, feats, starting equipment)
>Responsibility to manage the character sheet
>Partial creative license to make suggestions for the character's appearance, ambitions, and development
>Management of all rolls, tables, and accounting related to running a business in 3.5e
>Roleplay benefits to my other character: we can share NPC contacts (I'll introduce you to Licorice for alchemy services)
>A portion of the businesses's proceeds, representing the Dread League's connections to the criminal underground, as well as favors with smuggling black magic implements
>The potential opportunity to turn the character into a Gravetouched ghoul and have them take up the mantle of Hunger, if and only if the character dies
Pertaining to your bat shopkeeper, or "Lacey", as you call her.
Your character is in concept very similar to the character that I was going to make as my cohort: the ghoul bat, who represents the Black Horse of Famine/Inflation, specialized in the business side of d&d and smuggling. I understand that it is frustrating for someone else to make a character of the same race and similar class/archetype in the same party, so I will refrain from doing so.
Instead, I propose a compromise: what if we merged and co-owned the character?
You said you wanted to roleplay a shopkeeper/smuggler, but you weren't interested in the mechanical aspects of running a business in 3.5e. I have an opposite situation: I was very much in dabbling with the mechanical side of 3.5e business management, but idk if I have the free time to commit to roleplaying multiple characters at once (also, the character I was going to make is ultra evil, and DM didn't seem to like it).
So what if we, instead, co-owned the character as so?
You receive:
>Full creative license for the character's personality and backstory
>Opportunity to roleplay the character in and out of combat scenarios
>Opportunity to roleplay the character in any scenario/emcounter rolled on the DMGII business development tables
>Decision making authority for how to manage the business/guild
>Suggestion to request mechanical abilities on the character sheet
>Veto authority for egregious mechanical traits that break the character's theme
>The majority of the profits from the business to spend as you see fit
>Accounting services: no need to manage the character sheet or profit checks related to the business
>Promise of cooperation: Posey and her undead minions will comply with the needs of your business, within reason.
I receive:
>Opportunity to build a character sheet that is optimized for business management, shopkeeping, and general in-city roleplay support (class, feats, starting equipment)
>Responsibility to manage the character sheet
>Partial creative license to make suggestions for the character's appearance, ambitions, and development
>Management of all rolls, tables, and accounting related to running a business in 3.5e
>Roleplay benefits to my other character: we can share NPC contacts (I'll introduce you to Licorice for alchemy services)
>A portion of the businesses's proceeds, representing the Dread League's connections to the criminal underground, as well as favors with smuggling black magic implements
>The potential opportunity to turn the character into a Gravetouched ghoul and have them take up the mantle of Hunger, if and only if the character dies
>>182885
Oh, lets not get too hasty. Lacey is not intended to be a combat or even mission-invved character. Her establishment will it's self host at least one "mission"-type social event, but she is not intended to be one who goes out seeking wealth, she's designed to be somebat that others come to. So, if your intentions were to have a mission-based bat of similar personalitytheme, there still wouldnt be a conflict overtly.
Additionally, there are alot of details to her background that GM is custom-fitting and contextualizing, such that I dont think that even on the off chance that your proposed character and Lacey were operating in a group, they would tend to compliment eachother by way of their shared skills and abilities. They might even appreciate having a comparably skilled specialist like themselves around. Friendship is magic and shit. Xp
>Co-ownership
o_o
No
Oh, lets not get too hasty. Lacey is not intended to be a combat or even mission-invved character. Her establishment will it's self host at least one "mission"-type social event, but she is not intended to be one who goes out seeking wealth, she's designed to be somebat that others come to. So, if your intentions were to have a mission-based bat of similar personalitytheme, there still wouldnt be a conflict overtly.
Additionally, there are alot of details to her background that GM is custom-fitting and contextualizing, such that I dont think that even on the off chance that your proposed character and Lacey were operating in a group, they would tend to compliment eachother by way of their shared skills and abilities. They might even appreciate having a comparably skilled specialist like themselves around. Friendship is magic and shit. Xp
>Co-ownership
o_o
No
>>182886
Okay
Just pls don't be offended if my ghoul comes off as too similar to yours. I just wanted to make a character that was specialized in smuggling, RP support and making money.
Okay
Just pls don't be offended if my ghoul comes off as too similar to yours. I just wanted to make a character that was specialized in smuggling, RP support and making money.
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>>182887
Her colors are Off-white, Pink (around the eyes, ears, nose/snoot, hooves, the bones of her wings, and tail), and Burnt Cherry (the super dark shade, in her mane and the webbing of her wings/tail. She is intended to be of a particular variety of actual vampire bat, its self based on the white vampire bat pictured (notice the tail :3).
At current, she is effectively a Lucky Roll recolor, but the odds that I'll get art commissioned is very high.
And yes, Ive already admitted that without knowing/intending, I kinda made this one, at least on a semi-visual level
Her colors are Off-white, Pink (around the eyes, ears, nose/snoot, hooves, the bones of her wings, and tail), and Burnt Cherry (the super dark shade, in her mane and the webbing of her wings/tail. She is intended to be of a particular variety of actual vampire bat, its self based on the white vampire bat pictured (notice the tail :3).
At current, she is effectively a Lucky Roll recolor, but the odds that I'll get art commissioned is very high.
And yes, Ive already admitted that without knowing/intending, I kinda made this one, at least on a semi-visual level
>>182885
>>182886
>no
:`c b-but whyyy?????!!! I thought it was a cute proposal. I love coop!!!!111
It reminds me of that scene in a puffinforest vid, "Oh, I heard you were looking for slaves. Funny we should run into each other because we're seeking to become slaves ourselves. You guys want slaves. We wanna be slaves. Maybe, maybe we could work something out over here."
>>182886
>no
:`c b-but whyyy?????!!! I thought it was a cute proposal. I love coop!!!!111
It reminds me of that scene in a puffinforest vid, "Oh, I heard you were looking for slaves. Funny we should run into each other because we're seeking to become slaves ourselves. You guys want slaves. We wanna be slaves. Maybe, maybe we could work something out over here."
>>182886
>So, if your intentions were to have a mission-based bat of similar personality
The opposite, actually. Posey is extremely diligent and mission oriented. I wanted to make another character that was different and focused on the economic side of things.
The black horse of Famine's rider bears s set of golden scales, so I think it needs to be an economy-oriented character.
Was thinking of a character with the following feats
>Merchandise Background (good for buying/selling items)
>Wanderer's Diplomacy (smuggling mechanic lets you track down and smuggle items, Diplomacy support)
>Silver Tongue (more Diplomacy applications)
>Business Savvy (bonus to profit checks managing business, Luck bonus to all skill checks and attack rolls in any encounters that emerge related to the business developments).
Mercantile Background, Wanderer's Diplomacy, and Business Savvy all have mechanics that only kick in once per in-game month, so taking them all at once would be a character that's specialized to stay in shop and manage a business, making profit checks once per month. Not exactly good for adventuring, but incredible for downtime grinding.
For class I was thinking of Master (business profession specialization), maybe Multiclass Rogue/Master. Idk.
Alternatively, Nightstalker, or Multiclass Rogue/Cleric (high power alternative).
For colors, sable coat is necessary for theme, was thinking purple bell-pigtails that hang on either side of her head affixed with gold bands, in a way that resembles merchant scales. CM is a set of golden scales.
Anyway, it was just an idea to consider. I'll make my own businessmare.
>So, if your intentions were to have a mission-based bat of similar personality
The opposite, actually. Posey is extremely diligent and mission oriented. I wanted to make another character that was different and focused on the economic side of things.
The black horse of Famine's rider bears s set of golden scales, so I think it needs to be an economy-oriented character.
Was thinking of a character with the following feats
>Merchandise Background (good for buying/selling items)
>Wanderer's Diplomacy (smuggling mechanic lets you track down and smuggle items, Diplomacy support)
>Silver Tongue (more Diplomacy applications)
>Business Savvy (bonus to profit checks managing business, Luck bonus to all skill checks and attack rolls in any encounters that emerge related to the business developments).
Mercantile Background, Wanderer's Diplomacy, and Business Savvy all have mechanics that only kick in once per in-game month, so taking them all at once would be a character that's specialized to stay in shop and manage a business, making profit checks once per month. Not exactly good for adventuring, but incredible for downtime grinding.
For class I was thinking of Master (business profession specialization), maybe Multiclass Rogue/Master. Idk.
Alternatively, Nightstalker, or Multiclass Rogue/Cleric (high power alternative).
For colors, sable coat is necessary for theme, was thinking purple bell-pigtails that hang on either side of her head affixed with gold bands, in a way that resembles merchant scales. CM is a set of golden scales.
Anyway, it was just an idea to consider. I'll make my own businessmare.
>>182891
No, but genuinely you can obviously decline whatever ypu dont feel like bu I did think the propsal was kinda neat and nice. But it's not my character so i get.
No, but genuinely you can obviously decline whatever ypu dont feel like bu I did think the propsal was kinda neat and nice. But it's not my character so i get.
>>182892
I came into Lacey's character creation wanting to make a female counterpart to Brie. Eventually I settled on a very detailed, ostensibly reasonable ask, which GM said "okay, but can we tweak these few details, specific to Baltimare? If we do, I have something planned that will allow you to do exactly what you intend, in this specific context I'm already working around.
Without spoiling
<Ah fook off, Lacey' amoong th Wo'er froon' gang
... so theres plenty of possible reasons that Lacey and... yours might come to be in business.
I came into Lacey's character creation wanting to make a female counterpart to Brie. Eventually I settled on a very detailed, ostensibly reasonable ask, which GM said "okay, but can we tweak these few details, specific to Baltimare? If we do, I have something planned that will allow you to do exactly what you intend, in this specific context I'm already working around.
Without spoiling
<Ah fook off, Lacey' amoong th Wo'er froon' gang
... so theres plenty of possible reasons that Lacey and... yours might come to be in business.
>>182897
Well, if I'm building, managing, and roleplaying a separate character all on my own, I think I might just rather make a cohort that serves Posey and fits my biblical prophecy theme more precisely. Idk.
I just wondered if you might be interested, so I could still have fun with the business management and profit check mechanics, without having to divide my/GM's attention so much with too many more characters.
Well, if I'm building, managing, and roleplaying a separate character all on my own, I think I might just rather make a cohort that serves Posey and fits my biblical prophecy theme more precisely. Idk.
I just wondered if you might be interested, so I could still have fun with the business management and profit check mechanics, without having to divide my/GM's attention so much with too many more characters.
>>182898
Understandable. Outside of the social, Lacey will be there to interact with other players (and npcs, in context) exclusively. I acknowledge that you want to do through the stats and rules what I want to do through theme, concept, and a bit of permissive scripting by GM, but not by actually calculating applicable skill points, feats, backgrounds, etc.
There was already talk of Lacey being a/the General manager, on behalf of either the Waterfront Gang, her family, both and,....
It is generally themed to be "Her" business, but there may be partners/executives and investors/interests, and yiur character could be a part of that. I only 'know'what Ive told GM, and he has assured me that whatever does happen is effectively guaranteed to NOT happen by new year, and (no offense) knowing how this game can slow at interval, I'm setting a prospective deadline of June. Plenty of time to figure something out.
Understandable. Outside of the social, Lacey will be there to interact with other players (and npcs, in context) exclusively. I acknowledge that you want to do through the stats and rules what I want to do through theme, concept, and a bit of permissive scripting by GM, but not by actually calculating applicable skill points, feats, backgrounds, etc.
There was already talk of Lacey being a/the General manager, on behalf of either the Waterfront Gang, her family, both and,....
It is generally themed to be "Her" business, but there may be partners/executives and investors/interests, and yiur character could be a part of that. I only 'know'what Ive told GM, and he has assured me that whatever does happen is effectively guaranteed to NOT happen by new year, and (no offense) knowing how this game can slow at interval, I'm setting a prospective deadline of June. Plenty of time to figure something out.
>>182901
I reserve the right to a shcindler's-esque list
>>182898
Any decent business needs - aside from financing - an executive, an accountant, and a general manager. Lacey would ostensibly be the General Manager/COO. That leaves the accountant/CFO, and of course the CEO. Theres room, wherein they can be both Rosey's counterpart, AND formidable/positioned in their own right, which would befit an /4 horse
I reserve the right to a shcindler's-esque list
>>182898
Any decent business needs - aside from financing - an executive, an accountant, and a general manager. Lacey would ostensibly be the General Manager/COO. That leaves the accountant/CFO, and of course the CEO. Theres room, wherein they can be both Rosey's counterpart, AND formidable/positioned in their own right, which would befit an /4 horse
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>>182909
Trade offer
I receive
>A Death knight ally: Darth Stellaris
>Biblical prophecy theme fulfilled: Red Horse Of War
>A manifestation of unbridled hatred unleashed on the world
>Help with Total Changeling Death
>Help with conquering Equestria
>Your soul
You receive:
>UNLIMITED POWAH
>Lots of new abilities
>Eternal life*
>Your hatred vindicated
>Citizenship in the Dread League
>Position of general in Rosey Ring's army
>Help with Total Zigger Death
>One quarter of the conquered Equestria, of your choosing
Trade offer
I receive
>A Death knight ally: Darth Stellaris
>Biblical prophecy theme fulfilled: Red Horse Of War
>A manifestation of unbridled hatred unleashed on the world
>Help with Total Changeling Death
>Help with conquering Equestria
>Your soul
You receive:
>UNLIMITED POWAH
>Lots of new abilities
>Eternal life*
>Your hatred vindicated
>Citizenship in the Dread League
>Position of general in Rosey Ring's army
>Help with Total Zigger Death
>One quarter of the conquered Equestria, of your choosing
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>>182937
>Seems like a good deal, Dark Star doesn't believe in souls anymore anyway
Perfect!
I will make you my Death Knight.
>Seems like a good deal, Dark Star doesn't believe in souls anymore anyway
Perfect!
I will make you my Death Knight.
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For the rest, heres a crude Ponytown rendering of Lacey, including some accoutrement accents and inclusions.
A glinty-gold pair of delicate spectacles adorns her face, held by a band of beads and fine crystals (which, a sufficient search check will reveal a hidden garotte wire).
The dress is obvious, though she wears fine/mundane stockings on her forelegs. Her dress is fine silk, and with a decent investigation check has hidden shurikens.
Her fine silk purse (matching, of course) is equal parts. The purse IS a purse, but from a hidden zipper its a thieves it, and the chain strap is actually a disguised chain whip. She has a (hidden)bladed fan ar her waist, and she wears a really old, but seemingly repaired and embellished-looking martial belt (double-wrapped around her dress, of course)
A glinty-gold pair of delicate spectacles adorns her face, held by a band of beads and fine crystals (which, a sufficient search check will reveal a hidden garotte wire).
The dress is obvious, though she wears fine/mundane stockings on her forelegs. Her dress is fine silk, and with a decent investigation check has hidden shurikens.
Her fine silk purse (matching, of course) is equal parts. The purse IS a purse, but from a hidden zipper its a thieves it, and the chain strap is actually a disguised chain whip. She has a (hidden)bladed fan ar her waist, and she wears a really old, but seemingly repaired and embellished-looking martial belt (double-wrapped around her dress, of course)
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Moar bap imges
>>182984
o_o
Okay. Done playing with u today
o_o
Okay. Done playing with u today
Fucksake, I sure as fuck wont get creative, thats for damned
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>>182984
sigh
And just when I had thought you two were finally getting along.
>>182998
No. No it isn’t “just a shit post.” Your character may have +14 to bluff, but you don’t. No reasonable person is going to look at a post saying “rolling to bite x’s cock off off.” And think that that post is anything other than an overt act of hostility against the other person to show publicly that they hate them.
sigh
And just when I had thought you two were finally getting along.
>>182998
No. No it isn’t “just a shit post.” Your character may have +14 to bluff, but you don’t. No reasonable person is going to look at a post saying “rolling to bite x’s cock off off.” And think that that post is anything other than an overt act of hostility against the other person to show publicly that they hate them.
>>183007
Ill be more careful about tacitly allowing players to be emotive
For fucks sake. Why would you even joke about that. Like seriously, I thought we were working toward a good place, but now youre just WEIRD. In your ass
Ill be more careful about tacitly allowing players to be emotive
For fucks sake. Why would you even joke about that. Like seriously, I thought we were working toward a good place, but now youre just WEIRD. In your ass
>>183005
>overt act of hostility against the other person to show publicly that they hate them
That's really not how I meant it...
>overt act of hostility against the other person to show publicly that they hate them
That's really not how I meant it...
>>183030
>"LOL SO RANDUMB"
>*reciprocates with equally stupid instance of cartoonish violence*
Something along those lines
>"LOL SO RANDUMB"
>*reciprocates with equally stupid instance of cartoonish violence*
Something along those lines
>>183029
I grew up on /b/. I learned to laugh at anything.
I see now that sudden penectomy joke wasn't appreciated.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UluxHZJdXRk
My bad
I grew up on /b/. I learned to laugh at anything.
I see now that sudden penectomy joke wasn't appreciated.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UluxHZJdXRk
My bad
>>183038
No. U dont get to put a shrugging pony on and "its good". I dont think you appreciate how despicable you have displayed yourself.
No. U dont get to put a shrugging pony on and "its good". I dont think you appreciate how despicable you have displayed yourself.
>>183038
I hope I don't need to explain why threats of violence, especially out of character, towards people whom you have given no reason to give you the benefit of a doubt, and especially utterly bizarre threats of violence towards others, are not taken as jokes.
Like, if Brie said "rolling to cut off Gloomy's head and fuck it" or "rolling to shove a hand grenade up Posey's asshole" I seriously doubt you'd say "hey that's funny."
>>183047
>>183046
>>183045
>>183048
Okay, now is a good time to end discussion on this.
Please, we really don't need half of all posts to be you two having drama.
I hope I don't need to explain why threats of violence, especially out of character, towards people whom you have given no reason to give you the benefit of a doubt, and especially utterly bizarre threats of violence towards others, are not taken as jokes.
Like, if Brie said "rolling to cut off Gloomy's head and fuck it" or "rolling to shove a hand grenade up Posey's asshole" I seriously doubt you'd say "hey that's funny."
>>183047
>>183046
>>183045
>>183048
Okay, now is a good time to end discussion on this.
Please, we really don't need half of all posts to be you two having drama.
to be fair, i can see how it was a lolrandomXD /b/ style shitpost, i don't Think it was exactly malicious
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popping sound
"Oh no! I accidentally sat on a frag grenade!"
prances in place clenching butt
"I'll just fish it out with my magi- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! I ACCIDENTALLY PULLED THE PIN!"
BANG!
[3d6 = 10]
rotten guts fly everywhere
"~Ah! How embarrassing! Nopony look until I put everything back inside!"
"Oh no! I accidentally sat on a frag grenade!"
prances in place clenching butt
"I'll just fish it out with my magi- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! I ACCIDENTALLY PULLED THE PIN!"
BANG!
[3d6 = 10]
rotten guts fly everywhere
"~Ah! How embarrassing! Nopony look until I put everything back inside!"
>>183058
Huh, apparently ponies can assfuck themselves with frag grenades, but we're supposed to respect boundaries and shit. Doesnt track
Huh, apparently ponies can assfuck themselves with frag grenades, but we're supposed to respect boundaries and shit. Doesnt track
>>183061
Ngl all, if I fly off the handle, this is EXACTLY how to deal with me. Shame and embarrassment, rule 1.
Ngl all, if I fly off the handle, this is EXACTLY how to deal with me. Shame and embarrassment, rule 1.
"Watch how I can twirl this swor-"
cuts head off and rolls across the ground
"~Oh no! I cut off my head of and my body is running away like a headless chicken. I really do hope nopony takes advantage of me in this situation."
feebly floats head with horn glow and chases after body
cuts head off and rolls across the ground
"~Oh no! I cut off my head of and my body is running away like a headless chicken. I really do hope nopony takes advantage of me in this situation."
feebly floats head with horn glow and chases after body
Dont say anything, just watch
>>183058
Okay, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I don't know what source you're using that tells you that a fucking hand grenade only does the same amount of damage as three hacks with a machete by an ordinary-strength person at point blank range, but that isn't the damage die that I, or frankly and DM using 3.5 analogous HP levels, would ever use.
>>183060
Dark Star misses with hisrogue evasion.
>>183063
Okay, this one just got weird...
Okay, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I don't know what source you're using that tells you that a fucking hand grenade only does the same amount of damage as three hacks with a machete by an ordinary-strength person at point blank range, but that isn't the damage die that I, or frankly and DM using 3.5 analogous HP levels, would ever use.
>>183060
Dark Star misses with his
>>183063
Okay, this one just got weird...
>>183065
No. No you werent. Shall we go back through? Or shall we pretend it didnt happen, cuz of how out of pocket it was?
Idk what your deal with me is, but fix it. Not a request
No. No you werent. Shall we go back through? Or shall we pretend it didnt happen, cuz of how out of pocket it was?
Idk what your deal with me is, but fix it. Not a request
>>183066
>I don't know what source you're using
I just checked the DMG, and it says a bomb does 2d6.
D20 modern SRD says 3d6 for frag grenade.
Oh wait, next page of the DMG says the frag grenade does 4d6. I think that's an appropriate amount of damage.
Rest of the damage:
[1d6 = 5]
>the same amount of damage as three hacks with a machete by an ordinary-strength person at point blank range
That would kill most people, three times over.
It's still more damage than being hit with a shotgun.
HP is an abstraction anyway.
Taking any type of damage is also a lot more lethal in d20 modern, because their system shock thresholds are lower, as I mentioned above. Taking a crit from a gun that deals ~14 damage will kill you if you fail the massive damage saving throw in d20 modern. That one mechanic changed it from a fantasy game to a gritty realism game.
You can make grenades do whatever damage you want, but should a frag grenade do that much more damage than a shotgun? Having too much damage for a weapon that costs little could be unbalancing. 4d6 is already a decent amount of damage.
Your call though.
>Dark Star misses with his rogue evasion
I think Dark Star would be best represented as a Mystic Urban Ranger/Scout multiclass, with Swift Hunter.
His most prominent trait is his racism, so ranger makes sense.
Could also be a rogue though.
>Okay, this one just got weird...
I was inspired by the guy who kept posting the weird decapitation fetish threads in the main board.
>>183067
Posey is hugged.
>I don't know what source you're using
I just checked the DMG, and it says a bomb does 2d6.
D20 modern SRD says 3d6 for frag grenade.
Oh wait, next page of the DMG says the frag grenade does 4d6. I think that's an appropriate amount of damage.
Rest of the damage:
[1d6 = 5]
>the same amount of damage as three hacks with a machete by an ordinary-strength person at point blank range
That would kill most people, three times over.
It's still more damage than being hit with a shotgun.
HP is an abstraction anyway.
Taking any type of damage is also a lot more lethal in d20 modern, because their system shock thresholds are lower, as I mentioned above. Taking a crit from a gun that deals ~14 damage will kill you if you fail the massive damage saving throw in d20 modern. That one mechanic changed it from a fantasy game to a gritty realism game.
You can make grenades do whatever damage you want, but should a frag grenade do that much more damage than a shotgun? Having too much damage for a weapon that costs little could be unbalancing. 4d6 is already a decent amount of damage.
Your call though.
>Dark Star misses with his rogue evasion
I think Dark Star would be best represented as a Mystic Urban Ranger/Scout multiclass, with Swift Hunter.
His most prominent trait is his racism, so ranger makes sense.
Could also be a rogue though.
>Okay, this one just got weird...
I was inspired by the guy who kept posting the weird decapitation fetish threads in the main board.
>>183067
Posey is hugged.
>>183070
At 15 damage, the frag grenade up the butt took half of Posey's health.
But let's say she takes double damage, which puts her at only 3 HP, with her newly reduced HP.
At 15 damage, the frag grenade up the butt took half of Posey's health.
But let's say she takes double damage, which puts her at only 3 HP, with her newly reduced HP.
>>183071
A frag up the butt defies saving throw, and takes max damage you metafuck
If you survive, you're a metafuck
A frag up the butt defies saving throw, and takes max damage you metafuck
If you survive, you're a metafuck
>>183070
>the frag grenade does 4d6. I think that's an appropriate amount of damage.
From a distance, yes, 4d6 is pretty reasonable. From point blank? I don't think so. Point blank should be either fatal, or fairly close to it.
>Taking any type of damage is also a lot more lethal in d20 modern
Which is exactly why we shouldn't just copy paste D20 modern. The system isn't 1 for 1 the same.
>the frag grenade does 4d6. I think that's an appropriate amount of damage.
From a distance, yes, 4d6 is pretty reasonable. From point blank? I don't think so. Point blank should be either fatal, or fairly close to it.
>Taking any type of damage is also a lot more lethal in d20 modern
Which is exactly why we shouldn't just copy paste D20 modern. The system isn't 1 for 1 the same.
>>183072
Max of 4d6 is 24 damage, leaving her with 9 HP.
Posey is thoroughly assblasted. How embarrassing.
>If you survive, you're a metafuck
Posey falls on her sword and takes 9 damage
Oh no. I died out of character.
>>183074
>Which is exactly why we shouldn't just copy paste D20 modern. The system isn't 1 for 1 the same.
For everything except the one less d6 of damage of the frag grenade and the damage thresholds, it appears to be mostly the same. DMG says to refer to the d20 modern books for things concerning modern setting.
Do whatever you think is appropriate for your mileau.
Max of 4d6 is 24 damage, leaving her with 9 HP.
Posey is thoroughly assblasted. How embarrassing.
>If you survive, you're a metafuck
Posey falls on her sword and takes 9 damage
Oh no. I died out of character.
>>183074
>Which is exactly why we shouldn't just copy paste D20 modern. The system isn't 1 for 1 the same.
For everything except the one less d6 of damage of the frag grenade and the damage thresholds, it appears to be mostly the same. DMG says to refer to the d20 modern books for things concerning modern setting.
Do whatever you think is appropriate for your mileau.
>>183076
So you acknowledge that with the k creased damage modifiers of a frag that Posey is paste now, yes?
So you acknowledge that with the k creased damage modifiers of a frag that Posey is paste now, yes?
>>183075
Dude, I know you are mad, and what I did wasn't cool, but for the sake of other players keep it out of the RP thread.
>>183077
No, actually. She'd just barely survive.
But she would be all shredded up and embarrassed, and it would take hours for her to get her beautiful bum and soft tummy in good shape again. Quite the ordeal.
>>183078
That's not really how splash damage works in 3.5e. It's usually something like automatically failing the save (effectively double damage).
Dude, I know you are mad, and what I did wasn't cool, but for the sake of other players keep it out of the RP thread.
>>183077
No, actually. She'd just barely survive.
But she would be all shredded up and embarrassed, and it would take hours for her to get her beautiful bum and soft tummy in good shape again. Quite the ordeal.
>>183078
That's not really how splash damage works in 3.5e. It's usually something like automatically failing the save (effectively double damage).
>>183067
Rolling to tickle Kira up and down her long belly and blow raspberries on her tummy until she laughs so hard she lets go or reflexively squeezes and crushes me
[1d20+5 = (13+5) = 18]
Rolling to tickle Kira up and down her long belly and blow raspberries on her tummy until she laughs so hard she lets go or reflexively squeezes and crushes me
[1d20+5 = (13+5) = 18]
>>183084
Youre not intended to be scared. You're intended to be made aware so that when, you know why.
Youre not intended to be scared. You're intended to be made aware so that when, you know why.
>>183085
>hurr durr you'll know why
Cute.
I said I was sorry, but now it is you who is just being pathetic.
I done apologizing. Bite me.
>hurr durr you'll know why
Cute.
I said I was sorry, but now it is you who is just being pathetic.
I done apologizing. Bite me.
>>183070
>>183076
The limitation is with DnD 3.5e itself. If you want a modern-ish setting that is gritty and realistic you would need to split HP into discrete components of implied evasion/luck and actual health. That way characters won't seem too tanky without dying easily to even common mooks. You might want to add a mechanic for how easily a weapon can be aimed to provide a counterbalance to raw damage. Having PCs die in one hit to commonplace weapons doesn't mesh well with a setting with no easy resurrection and long playtimes needed to reach important character landmarks. Trying to combine both just makes the game frustrating.
>>183076
The limitation is with DnD 3.5e itself. If you want a modern-ish setting that is gritty and realistic you would need to split HP into discrete components of implied evasion/luck and actual health. That way characters won't seem too tanky without dying easily to even common mooks. You might want to add a mechanic for how easily a weapon can be aimed to provide a counterbalance to raw damage. Having PCs die in one hit to commonplace weapons doesn't mesh well with a setting with no easy resurrection and long playtimes needed to reach important character landmarks. Trying to combine both just makes the game frustrating.
>>183106
The limitation is players favorably interpreting rules to their favor
HP is a scaling value. Hp damage is an RP attribute. Its all a game. Nonces.
The game isnt "how super-ultra-mgazord-badass can I stack my character"
The game is "How can I contribute to the game other players are playing?".
The limitation is players favorably interpreting rules to their favor
HP is a scaling value. Hp damage is an RP attribute. Its all a game. Nonces.
The game isnt "how super-ultra-mgazord-badass can I stack my character"
The game is "How can I contribute to the game other players are playing?".
otherwise fuckoff and play dark souls
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