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UFOs and aliens are man made.
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This post is inspired by >>>/mlpol/59382.

I have been researching UFOs and aliens for decades. I have found the best way to understand the phenomena is to time-line it and then see what else was happening around the same time. Time-lining it allows the evolution & origin of certain aspects to show up which means you can trace things back to origin points.

I don't concern myself with if each UFO/alien report is real or not real, but I look at it in a wide ranging meta-view and this shows a sensible evolution which implies it is real and therefore the reports are generally mostly real.

I am not sure what the best way is to do this data dump. I have decided to do a succinct 300 year history which can be expanded on by me asking questions. This allows me to keep my efforts in proportion to actual board interest levels.

This initial section is to show the development of human sky technology and also shows that nothing ET UFO like is happening yet.

1758 - Book: Concerning Earths in the Solar System, in which Emanuel Swedenborg detailed his alleged journeys (spiritual) to the inhabited planets (up to Saturn + 5 exo-planets), solar system barrier, suns are black.
1783 - France: Manned balloons
1803 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune
1850 - and onwards triangular shapes are reported in the sky but when researched most of these can be associated with comets and comet fragments (comets tend to break up near Earth, Sun and Jupiter into sharp angular fragments).
1851 - Dr. William Bland sent design: steam engine driving twin propellers suspended under airship to Great Exhibition, London
1852 - Comet fragment dramatically crashes to Earth with sheets of rain (comet water) and dark ominous clouds with read streaks before the massive chunk crashes into the English channel. The other interesting part about this is that it happens near dawn, and the dawn side of the Earth is in the direction of the Earth's travel around the sun. So the Earth overran this comet fragment and sucked it down into it. This dramatically shows how astronomical phenomena can produce UFO reports. Pic #1 Attached.
1863 - “Aereon” by Solomon Andrews (inventor) flew, unpowered, controllable dirigible,Perth Amboy, New Jersey.
1871 - Mystery airship, Mt. Washington, New Hampshire (Solomon Andrews?) See Pic #2. This is one of the earliest UFO reports and we can see it is consistent with an airship. We have no reason to conclude it is ET yet.
1871 - (Vril, the Power of) The Comming Race fiction novel by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. This book in Germany inspires the use of the term Vril for unknown magical/physical forces and leads to the nick name The Vril Society.
1881 - a comet was mistaken as an unusual object in the sky. See pic #3.
1886 - Book: A Dweller on Two Planets, Atlantis, life on Venus, advanced technology, karma, Mt. Shasta. “No telescope will ever reveal human life on Venus; not that it is not there, but its forms are of the One Substance effected by a range of force rendering them imperceptible to earthly eyes." -- what we see here is the myth of sentient life on other planets in our solar system starting to form. There is no reason to reject this notion at that time.
1886 - cheap way to manufacture aluminium is discovered. At this point airships are flying around, some are secret projects. They use bamboo and cloth and ropes. Cheap aluminium allows them to be made of this metal. France is becoming a leader in airship design. You can think of these airships as the B2 bomber of the day, these are very serious military tech for spying and air to ground attack. Therefore there is secrecy around designs as well.
1891 - Contactee Thomas Blott (William Simpson, 1828-1910) The Man from Mars is a book about a Martian explaining how Mars is great and Earth sux, basically. It is not clear if this was supposed to be fiction or a reported event.
1893 - In the article “Man of the Year Million”, H. G. Wells envisaged humanity transformed into a race of grey-skinned beings, stunted and with big heads. -- the greys!!

So with that look so far we can see many of the elements of aliens and UFOs exist but there are no reports yet of flying saucers or any meaningful reports of flying triangles under intelligent control. All of it, when it comes to ETs, is human imagination. We can reasonably say no ETs are showing up in this 1700s-1800s time period.

In 1893 science starts to speculate about gravity and if we can understand it better and control it.

1893 - Oliver Heaviside makes paper called A GRAVITATIONAL AND ELECTROMAGNETIC ANALOGY http://sergf.ru/Heavisid.htm -- this will be very important as we continue the time lining.
1894 “Aug 26, British admiral reported sighting a large disk with a projection like a tail” – Keyhoe (1950) -- Airship? Science experiment? There are no good references for this report and so it can't be examined further.
1896 - Germany 11 Sep, Zagreb daily newspaper Obzor “The day before yesterday we received a telegram sent by an amateur journalist. He informed us that David Schwarz from Zagreb has invented an [aluminium] airship which he hopes he could direct on his own free will."
1896 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_airship -- this is the UFO flap of 1896-97 but they were airships, not disks, triangles or spacecraft. We know that airships won't work in space so these are human-made. This shows that human advanced tech can be a unsolved mystery. See pics #4 and #5

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>blue tinged
It might be aluminium
>red tinged
What about iron?
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>Al
Al appears to be reddish yellow.
https://youtu.be/NUYqGX6a4vQ

>Iron
I think iron tends to be orange yellow throughout.
https://youtu.be/6NNt0Pup6jU

But the camera would see infrared and show that as white. So maybe white was not eye seeable?
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Sources:
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1876MmSSI...5A.156T
1876MmSSI...5A..41T
1876MmSSI...5A..59T
1876MmSSI...5A..77T
1876MmSSI...5A..93T
1877MmSSI...6A..11T
1877MmSSI...6A..29.
1877MmSSI...6A..33T
1877MmSSI...6A..41T
1879MmSSI...8A..65T
1887MmSSI..15...37R.
1911MmSSI..40..126G

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Pool_Essays

>1086: Report gives an objective account.
>2000: Report tries to anthropomorphise the account.
Are we evolving or devolving?
Are we controlled via mythology?
Notice the red sky? Aurora? A sign of strong sun activity at the time?
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Many questions and just speculation to try to answer them.
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>'Tucker Carlson Tonight' explores possible evidence of UFOs
https://youtu.be/Z7-DhPCG_II

The assumption of elements from outside the Earth implies aliens to most. But there is metal outside the Earth without the need for aliens bringing it to Earth.

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Also attaching update on tabulations so far for metal seen in Solar Cycle 11. I am catching up on the earliest few years (1868-1871) before proper numbers were kept (1872). Then I will move on to Solar Cycle 12 (1878-1889) which has a dramatic drop in metal. >>116122

I am pondering that Solar Cycle 10 (1855-1866) and the Carrington Event https://youtu.be/7ukQhycKOFw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859 is what fractured the metallic silt layer in the sun*. Also because Fe is higher atomic mass it settles under Mg, Si, etc. When the sun's magnetic field becomes very strong and chaotic it pushes the Fe around and the metals on top get churned also. This would be what made the sun fill with glowing Mg in SC11.

* A search for anyone else suggesting metallic silt/crust in the sun leads to the Electric Universe people only: http://thesurfaceofthesun.com/index.html
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And pic is the reason for the bias of more seen around July.
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>The sun has been eerily quiet for 264 days in a row - just 96 hours short of setting a new record with no surface activity since March 24
>March 24 was the last time a sunspot was seen on the surface of the moon
>The modern record is from 2008 when a blemish was not seen for 268 days
>Solar minimums mean reduced activity on the sun as its magnetic field weakens
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7790163/The-sun-eerily-quiet-264-days-row-just-96-hours-away-setting-new-record.html
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Any comment on the sun's orbit?
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Sure, it takes about 225 to 250 million terrestrial years.
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Grand minimum is coming: >>113295
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age#Solar_activity
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/martin-armstrong-warns-coming-big-freeze
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Are our assumptions about the sun wrong?

>The formation and evolution of the Solar System began 4.5 billion years ago with the gravitational collapse of a small part of a giant molecular cloud.[1] Most of the collapsing mass collected in the center, forming the Sun, while the rest flattened into a protoplanetary disk out of which the planets, moons, asteroids, and other small Solar System bodies formed.
>This model, known as the nebular hypothesis was first developed in the 18th century by Emanuel Swedenborg, Immanuel Kant, and Pierre-Simon Laplace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System

A hypothesis in science forms when we have the least amount of information and the most amount of speculation. If the subsequent data is ambiguous or not available these early hypotheses become the defacto standard. Given enough time they become accepted "facts". According to Wikipedia (and I assume most scientists) the solar system forms from molecules and we are also told that the sun is Hydrogen 73.46% and Helium 24.85%. H2 is a molecule is this the only molecule they mean? The sun is said to 4.6 billion years old, and the universe 13.8 billion years old. The universe was 9.2 billion years old when the sun was formed. Why would we expect the location where our sun was born to be a pristine hydrogen environment? And how could that be so when the planets around it are rock? Also would not the denser material be attracted the most to the centre of the gravity well? Was the sun born with a metal core?

Scientists are still learning how the solar system formed:
https://www.space.com/35526-solar-system-formation.html

The sun rotates at different speeds at different latitudes: equator 25.05days, Lat16° 25.38days, poles 34.4days. And the suns core is said to https://earthsky.org/space/suns-core-rotates-4x-faster-than-surface . These mismatched speeds are said to cause sheer at a place between the dense "radiative zone" and the "convection zone". This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Tachocline then cause the suns building up agitation.

I spent some time trying to discover the composition of the Tachocline but I found nothing. I am assuming that the Tachocline would be the area where metals, falling into the sun, would sediment out. I assume they would even differentiate by atomic mass. The three main metals from space rocks would differentiate such that Fe was on the bottom (atomic mass 55.8), Si (28.0) & Mg (24.3) on top. The Fe is ferromagnetic and therefore a strong magnetic field could counteract the suns gravity and lift the Fe to the solar visible surface. Since the Mg and Si are layered on top the Mg and Si get taken for a ride also. The Fe's path would be dictated by the field, but not the Mg and SI which could diversify. The Fe would be pulled back onto the solar visible surface by the looping magnetic field lines but the Si and Mg would just follow momentum vs gravity.

If we assume metal has collected on the radiative zone at the tachocline; and we know suns spots represent where the sun magnetic field lines broke through the surface and therefore represent the strength of the suns magnetic field; and we know when the sun spot maximum was; and when the metallic prominence maximum was; we can calculate the travel time for the sedimented metal to reach the suns visible surface and see if this idea makes mathematical sense.

For solar cycle 11 the sun spot max was 1870 August. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_cycles
The metallic prominence max appears to be 1873 July (Pic: 603/11=54.818)
= 35 months

The Tachocline is said to be 0.3 solar radius's down.

(696342 km solar radius * 0.3 tachocline down) / ( 35 months * (365 days / 12 months) days * 24 hours )
= 8.176km/h average travel speed from Tachocline to visible surface.

The slow speed implies that fighting against the suns massive gravity is very difficult and so only in the most extreme magnetic disturbances is it possible and it takes a few years to reach the surface. The surface speed is likely to be faster than the average speed.
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>Why would we expect the location where our sun was born to be a pristine hydrogen environment? And how could that be so when the planets around it are rock? Also would not the denser material be attracted the most to the centre of the gravity well? Was the sun born with a metal core?

The sun is a Generation I star, meaning it is the third "generation" of stars in the universe. Generation III stars were the first stars in the universe and were pure hydrogen, growing to monstrous sizes and dying off in a matter of a few million years. Generation II stars came afterward and had some heavier elements produced earlier, but still had dramatically lower metallicity than later stars. Most stars today, including our sun, do indeed have a high proportion of metals and heavy elements relative to earlier stars, which is how Generation II (old) stars can be identified.

I'm no astronomer but watching Anton Petrov really helps in getting a general grasp on scientific updates. Most interestingly, NASA is studying the sun at a close distance and has found that solar wind emanating from the surface is not straight but generates kinks due to magnetic forces. Was the Black Sun scientifically accurate all this time? www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1DPhNa1CjQ
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Thanks for this. I wasn't aware of the 3 "generations" of stars. It is very interesting that the sun is seen as in the more metallic group. While poking around on this subject I also learned that "Metallicity" is a common astronomical term (although bastardised). I was using the term without knowing this. On the wiki page for this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallicity they are careful to state that the ratio of elements applies to the surface of the sun, as though the deeper down ratios are not known:
>For the surface of the Sun, these parameters are measured to have the following values:

I also located an article on the population III stars that have been found:
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>The more interesting of the two, a galaxy dubbed CR7, proved to be the brightest galaxy yet found in the early universe—three times as bright as the previous record-holder. As well as its strong ultraviolet light from ionized hydrogen, it emitted a strong signal from helium—an expected signature from a galaxy of population III stars—but nothing else, suggesting that the stars lacked heavier elements. “There was no trace of other lines, only helium and hydrogen,” Sobral says.
...
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/06/astronomers-spot-first-generation-stars-made-big-bang

It suggests that H/He only stars can't produce a full spectrum, but our sun does. This suggest then that pressure does not change emission frequencies. Our sun emits a almost full spectrum, which suggests there has to be a menagerie of elements within it to cover so many frequencies.

The sun emits strongly in green, the atmosphere is transparent in that area, our eyes are most sensitive in green, and Mg, Si and Fe emit strongly in green. It is almost tailor made or tailor evolved for us.


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Huge UFO Soaring Over Las Vegas - Just Now! • Dec 19, 2019
https://youtu.be/Sr1MJ3nX3do
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>UFO
The lights match the stroboscopic man made ones. The hovering matches a helicopter. The guy is jumping to wished conclusions TBH.
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Solar activity.
Taken from >>>/mlpol/253714 →
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More info, but the British tabloid looks like yellow press.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/multiple-reports-ufo-travelling-1000mph-21157050
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Not having a go at you, anon, but those authors need to know that local temperature change is not necessarily global temperature change. But it good to see Global Cooling becoming a topic. Another example http://www.climatecooling.org/.

What is rarely discussed is how the inner Earth responds, does magma rise up when the crust shrinks due to surface cooling?

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I have a proposal for a way to do UFO sightings research which avoids having people pick a favourite hypothesis and then argue, or worse use vague sightings to push one hypothesis. All UFO investigations should begin with all categories of answers as an option, then the data is used to cross out those explanations that are impossible. Ideally you get down to one remaining explanation. However with UFO sightings they usually have insufficient information to do that.

I also have a categorisation system which is:


+-------------+---------+
| intelligent | natural |
+------------------+-------------+---------+
| extraterrestrial | ETI | ETN |
+------------------+-------------+---------+
| terrestrial | TI | TN |
+------------------+-------------+---------+


We have insufficient data in that sighting to eliminate any of the 4 categories of explanation. Therefore debate is pointless. All explanations can make a case and none can be eliminated.

This is one of the reasons why I started looking at ETN, the other 3 are well researched/speculated but ETN has been ignored because back in the founding of the UFO myth we were very ignorant of ETNature (despite having astronomers in the mix who acted very unlike astronomers!). ETN needs to be fitted into the UFO options as an equal possibility, but it is boring so it wont catch on with the public. ETI is weak because we have not shown that ETI exists outside of UFO events, whereas the other 3 can be shown to exist outside of UFOs, but excited the public.

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."
-- Arthur Conan Doyle
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I've been trying to resolve the small conundrum where Mg all around the sun (1872) got memory holed. Today I found this which also adds a more detailed description of the situation:

>I should further add here that when the sun is moderately active and can be well observed, as in a fine climate like that in Italy, this magnesium layer can be detected all round the sun, so that we have in the chromospheric layer, first of all, a layer of hydrogen with its prominences, and then at the bottom of this layer another layer of magnesium, which wells up sometimes where the prominences are most active.
-- THE CHEMISTRY OF THE SUN by Lockyer (1887)
-- https://archive.org/details/chemistryofsun00lockuoft/page/110 (bottom right)
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>The view of the sun's atmosphere, in 1873, was one something like this : We had, let us say, first of all an enormous shell of some gas, probably lighter than hydrogen, about which we know absolutely nothing, because so far none of it has been found here. [He discovered 1881, AM=4] Inside this we had a shell of hydrogen [AM=1]; inside this one of calcium [AM=40, diamagnetic], another of magnesium [AM=24], another of sodium [AM=23], and then a complex shell which has been called the reversing layer, in which we all the metals of the iron [AM=55.8] group plus such other metals as cadmium [AM=112.4], titanium [AM=47.9], barium [AM=137.3], and so on.

>The solar atmosphere then, from top to bottom, consisted, it was imagined, of a series of shells, the shells being due not to the outside substance existing only outside, but to the outside substance extending to the bottom of the sun's atmosphere, and encountering in it, at a certain height, another shell which again found another shell inside it, and so on; so that the composition of the solar atmosphere as one went down into it got more and more complex ; nothing was left behind, but a great many things were added. We had, dealing with known elements,

> Highest . . Hydrogen [AM=1].
> Medium . . Magnesium [AM=24], calcium [AM=40, diamagnetic], sodium [AM=23].
> Lowest . . Iron [AM=55.8], nickel [AM=58.7], manganese [AM=54.9], chromium [AM=52], cobalt [AM=58.9], barium [AM=137.3], copper [AM=63.5], zinc [AM=65.4], titanium [AM=47.9], and aluminium [AM=27, strangely low].
-- https://archive.org/details/chemistryofsun00lockuoft/page/166
-- THE CHEMISTRY OF THE SUN by Lockyer (1887), page 167-168, also read up to including page 171.

AM=Atomic Mass. Pics also show how metals leave the solar visible surface.
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>probably lighter than hydrogen
No element is lighter than hydrogen.
But, did you consider the existence of ether?
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I think what they are actually refering to is the corona. The corona is millions of degrees hot and very low density. At the same time they don't know about Helium so they seem to have confounded the two things into one. What is interesting to me is the strata mostly based on atomic weight and biased by magnetic susceptibility. This will be interesting in the next post.
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A hypothesis has emerged after fighting off it's contender that the 1872 Meteor Storm might have flooded the sun with metal. The problem with the later also is the sun is HUGE and storms aren't relative to the sun.

The Hypothesis:

* "The solar storm of 1859 (also known as the Carrington Event) was a powerful geomagnetic storm during solar cycle 10 (1855–1867)." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle_10. Perhaps caused by the Grand Solar Cycle maximum (what ever that means). >>113295

* This fractures the sedimented differentiated metals at the base of the Convection Layer and allows the metal to churn into the Convection Layer for the second half of SC10 and all of SC11.

* Solar Cycle 11 (1867-1878): 1869 Thorium (pic1 and 2) [Atomic Mass=232!!] a rare heavy metal (pic3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium#Formation ) is seen in the sun as evidence of the severity of the event. The metals slowly return below the surface over decades, with smaller upsurges each solar maximum. Heavy metals first, light metals last, somewhat biased by magnetic susceptibility.

Ordinarily I would have been doubtful about the Thorium seen, but between 3-5 spectral lines are reported so it must be accepted. Thorium is very heavy so something big must have happened. Since the only store of Mg large enough to flood the sun in 1872 is the sun itself it is simplest to assume the Thorium came from the sun also via he same process. Therefore a big event is needed. Carrington Event was a massive event.

The metal finished settling mostly in the 1950s, UFO reports are at there lowest in the early 1960s, surge in the late 1960s (TI?: man-made UFOs?) and fade out in the 1970s (TI?: MKUltra ended 1973 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra ) >>70176 .

Thoughts?
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>>121650
Fixed 2 errors. One "Thorium" demoted to unlikely, the other promoted to very likely, resulting in no change to the overall hypothesis.
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Scientists watching metallic prominences exit the sun at a speed that would allow them to leave the solar system.

400,000 miles per hour
= 6667 miles per second
= 10729 km per second

Sun escape velocity = 617.7 km/s
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>>121654
Bad maths! :(

Fixed:
400,000 mph / 60 / 60
= 111 mps
= 178.8142 km/s

Sun escape velocity = 617.7 km/s

Doesn't escape the solar system.
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>>121656
Now it's clear and correct.
Before I ignored it because was in imperial units. my bad.

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>UFO Sightings: Real UFO Caught On Camera Over Myrtle Beach South Carolina • Dec 31, 2019

Object falls from the night sky then breaks up and the components fly around seemingly randomly.
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https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abs/st02710y.html :

>Stothers, R., 2007: Unidentified flying objects in classical antiquity. Classical J., 103, 79-92.

>A combined historical and scientific approach is applied to ancient reports of what might today be called unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Many conventionally explicable phenomena can be weeded out, leaving a small residue of puzzling reports. These fall neatly into the same categories as modern UFO reports, suggesting that the UFO phenomenon, whatever it may be due to, has not changed much over two millennia.

[...]

>Conclusions
>This collection of what might be termed ancient UFO reports has been culled from a much larger number of reports of aerial objects, most of whose identifications with known phenomena are either cer-tain or at least highly probable. Embedded in the mass of relatively explicable ancient reports, however, is a small set of unexplained (or at least not wholly explained) reports from presumably credible witnesses. If these reports are examined statistically, essential features of what I will,for argument’s sake, call the ancient UFO phenomenon can be extracted:

> shape — discoidal or spheroidal;
> color — silvery, golden or red;
> texture — metallic or, occasionally, glowing or cloudy;
> size — a meter to well over a meter;
> sound — usually none reported;
> type of motion — hovering, erratic or smooth flight, with a rapid disappearance.
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>>121915
It looks like all these occurrences were and are happening under the nose of the authorities, but they keep silent and no reaction is ever noticed.
May be it is time to replace them for someone competent and accountable?
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There was a point in 1947 where scientists had the chance to notice meteors that have strange flight paths, but they chose to deny it was possible because it did not fit their presumptions.

https://archive.org/details/Sky_and_Telescope_1947-07-cbr/page/n5 also >>79260

Also at that time scientists stated that they believed UFOs were classified technology. Since it was a patriotic time I would expect the scientists to just overlook UFOs. This then became culturally normal.

What happened subsequently was in 1950 citizens formed UFO research groups that believed in aliens. After that aliens were an advantageous false flag cover story, perhaps for MKULTRA in the field (most MKULTRA documents were destroyed) >>29447 pic3 and 4, perhaps using German Discs. >>759

What seems to have happened is post WW2 the US took on a lot of Germans and was affected by the ideology. Since that time TV became more propaganda and the public was seen more as a resource to exploit (kidnapped children, drugs, "alien" abductions). We seem to be at the extreme of the propaganda part today and an exposure of it in its current form. I hope this will also ultimately expose it all the back into history too and expose the alien hoax.
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>>121945

On the other hand:

https://youtu.be/_NJiCM8XdGc?list=PLn95Vk05FrXE7jRO77N9nrplE-OhvS5Si
>#UFO? Is It Skydivers with lit suits and pyrotechnics
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>>121952
>After that aliens were an advantageous false flag cover story

>Simulated Alien Abductions: the CIA, a Hot Hooker, and Secret Experiments
>In a new article posted at his The UFO Trail blog (titled “Vallee declines to Substantiate Claims of CIA Simulating UFO abductions“) Jack Brewer wrote, on December 19: “Dr. Jacques Vallee declined to attempt to fully substantiate the assertion contained in his book, Forbidden Science – Volume Four, that he secured a document confirming the CIA simulated UFO abductions in Brazil and Argentina.
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https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/12/simulated-alien-abductions-the-cia-a-hot-hooker-and-secret-experiments/

Possibly referring to pdf @ >>20033


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>>121954
Thanks for nothing, Vallee. I want a refund.
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No.121976
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https://youtu.be/6ppeCMiqpog
UAP | Shape-shifting metallic Sphere - Poland

If they are molten blobs of metal, they can shape-shift and absorb each other. If they are magnetic they can attract each other.

https://youtu.be/6ppeCMiqpog
UFO | Famous flying saucer over Sweden 2012 with interview.

Notice the natural urge to anthropomorphise the unknown.
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>>121954
>Possibly referring to pdf @ >>20033

The person who made the document:

>Old incidents.... new interest?
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>Such stories, in the 1978 time-frame, were not something discussed very much, if at all, about UFOs and military/CIA created events.
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I sent the paper and notes to Jacques Vallee’s postal address that Lucius gave me but never heard back from Monsieur Vallee.
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When Bosco was arrested for child seduction I think and his CIA connection made known, his name surfaced and appeared on Errol Bruce-Knapp’s UFO UpDates.
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https://ufocon.blogspot.com/2020/01/old-incidentsnew-interest.html

UFOs, the CIA (MKULTRA) and child "seduction"? Is that why some greys are short?
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>Simulated UFO Abductions: When Did Mind-Control Programs Begin?
>I’ve written a few articles over the course of the past week, and into this week, on the matter of what have rapidly become known as “simulated UFO abductions.” The theory is that these “abductions” – primarily in the 1950s onward – were not the work of aliens, but the work of intelligence agencies, possibly to determine how easy (or difficult) it might be to fabricate an alien encounter. After all, if you can hoax an E.T. incident then maybe you can fabricate something amazing on the battlefield and, in the process, freak out the enemy. In that sense, perhaps the abductions amounted to forerunners of bigger, far grander plans. We’re talking about the likes of the CIA’s controversial MKULTRA “mind-control” program.
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>According to the Committee: “Because MKUltra records were destroyed, it is impossible to reconstruct the operational use of MKUltra materials by the CIA overseas; it has been determined that the use of these materials abroad began in 1953, and possibly as early as 1950.”
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https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/12/simulated-ufo-abductions-when-did-mind-control-programs-begin/
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Is this a better candidate than the Carrington Event?

>An Explosion (?) on the Sun
>On the 7th of September [1871], between half-past 12 and 2 P.M., there occurred an outburst of solar energy remarkable for its suddenness and violence. Just at noon the writer had been examining with the telespectroscope an enormous protuberance or hydrogen cloud on the eastern limb of the sun.
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>The whole phenomenon suggested most forcibly the idea of an explosion under the great prominence, acting mainly upwards, but also in all directions outwards, and then after an interval followed by a corresponding inrush : and it seems far from impossible that the mysterious coronal streamers, if they turn out to be truly solar, as now seems likely, may find their origin and explanation in such events.

>The same afternoon a portion of the chromosphere on the opposite (western) limb of the sun was for several hours in a state of unusual brilliancy and excitement, and showed in the spectrum more than 120 bright lines whose position was determined and catalogued—all that I had ever seen before, and some fifteen or twenty besides.
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https://archive.org/details/paper-doi-10_1038_004488b0

* The author interprets it as an explosion under the prominence, but it might be just a large CME.
* The opposite side of the sun seemed to react, and the 120 lines means metal would be part of it. This is the first mention I have seen of a large region of the sun's edge showing bright metal lines.
* Do both events have the same inner cause? Can a CME roll around the sun?
* This is Sep 1871. The sun showing large quantities of metal starts in 1872 May.

Be interesting to see how the time in between these events gets described.
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Magnetic storm on Earth after the solar "explosion":

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>It is worthy of notice that the great outrush witnessed by Prof. Young was not accompanied by any marked signs of magnetic disturbance. Five hours later, however, a magnetic storm began suddenly, which lasted for more than a day; and on the evening of September 7 [, 1871] there was a display of the aurora borealis. Whether the occurrence of these signs of magnetic disturbance were associated with the appearance (on the visible half of the Sun) of the great spot which was approaching or crossing the eastern limb at the time of Young’s observation, cannot at present be determined.
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https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1871MNRAS..32...42P/abstract (page 51-52)

Looks like a good starting point for the hypothesis.
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1974RvGSP..12..329D--10.1029@rg012i003p00329--Comparison of Activity in Solar Cycles 18, 19, and 20--330.jpg
1974RvGSP..12..329D--10.1029@rg012i003p00329--Comparison of Activity in Solar Cycles 18, 19, and 20--331.jpg
srep15689-f3--with_solar_cycle--solarstorms.jpg
1600-2000--Year Average Sunspot Count--Petersen, Edward (2012). Single Event Effects in Aerospace.jpg
UFO waves in years that end in ~4 and ~7 >>70176

Solar activity that is strongest in years ending in ~4 and ~7 (pic1)
-- https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1974RvGSP..12..329D/abstract

Sun spot counts that surge in the UFO era. (pic2)

- The Carrington Event in the sun spot surge (1859)
- The Young Event >>122091 in the sun spot surge (1871)
- The sun having a 10 year cycle in the UFO era >>114081 (pic2)
- Years ending in ~4 are the start of the sun cycle >>114081 (pic2)
- Years ending in ~7 are the max of the sun cycle >>114081 (pic2)
- The UFO era is the same as the sun spot era >>102272 (pic)

Is it all just a coincidence? Lets test it! Pic 3 suggest we should also see some extreme solar activity in:

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle_17 (1933-1944)
-- result: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_1938_geomagnetic_storm (hit!)
--- Sun spot max: 1937

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle_18 (1944-1954)
-- result: "values of the solar flux during this cycle turned out to be particularly high."
-- result: https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1947Natur.160...59P/abstract "occurrence of a severe magnetic disturbance on April 17-18" (hit!)
-- result: look back at Pic1 (2800MHz solar flux: 457.9 highest of 30 years, Date: April 7, 1947) (hit!)
--- Sun spot max: 1947

Correlations between the sun and ETN UFOs:
- 10 year cycle
- Solar grand cycle surge correlated with UFO surge.

Bonus: pic4 showing sun spot counts back into 1600. "They are regions of reduced surface temperature caused by concentrations of magnetic field flux that inhibit convection." (Wikipedia). Sun spots are a surrogate for instability in the suns magnetic field, which results in it protruding from the sun visible surface, which in the past was churning up metal. When they snap/explode they throw material into space. In the past did they throw metal blobs? Pic4 is a count of sun spots which show a similar story pic3, but pic3 is based on a simulation, and pic4 is based on observations.

I'm having a hard time falsifying the Sun/ETN UFOs link.

OMG! THE SUN IS UNSTABLE
Can the greenies fix the sun??!
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>The Sun is spitting out 'lava lamp blobs' 500 times the size of Earth
https://www.livescience.com/65182-the-sun-is-burping-lava-lamp-blobs.html

Is it related?
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SELECT date,R1,R2,R3,R4,R5,R6,R7,R8 FROM `magnetic_storm` where R1 > 550 or R2 > 550 or R3 > 550 or R4 > 550 or R5 > 550 or R6 > 550 or R7 > 550 or R8 > 550.png
UFOCAT sightings by year vs month vs count_matrix 8y6m.png
Data suggests a tentative hypothesis on what happens between solar metal ejection and Earth UFO sighting:

The correlations in >>122095 are good but the magnetic disturbances associations suffer from selection bias. I decided to look at the situation from the opposite perspective, from the geomagnetic storm side. Do geomagnetic storm waves correlate with UFO waves?

Pic1

Pic1 is geomagnetic storms > 550 from 1868 on wards. Some quick points of interest:

* 1872 Feb had a bigger geomagnetic storm than the previously mentioned 1871 storm. It is also 3 months before the sun is seen to go very metallic. Making it a better candidate to blame. It is 20 years before it happens again. This matches metallic prominence data >>113025 , the slump in solar activity >>114081 and slump in sun spots >>122095 (pic4).

* 1972 to 1986 has a 14 year gap in magnetic storms > 550 and UFOs have a slump in the 1980s. The time delay might be explained by pic2 section.

pic2

Pic2 is the UFO heat map showing UFO sightings per month in UFOCAT and the stars are geomagnetic storms. Dark green > 550, light green > 450. The storm waves occur between the UFO sighting waves. And appear to be offset by 8.5 months. I am not sure if this is imagined or not. But if we speculated on what it means some interesting ideas emerge:

If metal plasma has been launched from the sun (and we know when because we have the magnetic storm dates) and it returns back to the sun, (because of orbital mechanics, unless a planet or moon affects it) 8.5 years later (.5 being the important aspect) it is falling back into the opposite side of the sun, as expected. Except the Earth has intercepted it and we get to watch the metal plasma transformed into while in space for 8.5 years.

So it started as a metal plasma gas but in outer space it has cooled and gained electrons. We can speculate then that the outer portion gained the most electrons, and radiative cooling, and has become cool ordinary metal. The core could still be metal plasma in a hot or cold state. The core is similar to a gas because of the low density of plasma repulsing itself. This means it can float in the Earth's atmosphere. Also it generates magnetic fields from the core plasma, which can produce hallucinations in us.

If the core plasma has cooled enough it could be also a superconductor plasma, this has potential anti-gravity properties https://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/9701074v3 which could produce erratic accelerations. Also escaping plasma might produce thrust.

It's easy to see why capturing and keeping secret such ETN UFOs would be a priority.
Solid metal plasma airships with superconductor anti-gravity, produced by the sun and cooled in space for 8.5 years?
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Strange Lights Over Tampa, Florida
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Multiple previous technologies from: Project Redlight, Project HARD COPY, Project Winter Haven, Project TONE CONTROL, Project SOUND STORM, culminated into direct usage:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm

Notice lampshade (deflection) names in nu-media of "Project Blue Beam" upon searching. True new(er) names: Project STAR BEAM, Project BLUE SENTINEL, Project ION HAZE, Project SIGHT LINE 2 AKA Project SKY BANNER, Project SKYHAVEN 2, Operation DAWN BROADCAST, Project DAVY JONES, Operation CORONA SUPERIOR, Operation FREEDOM RAINS. Notice all reference water, air, space, solar entities, then concepts of "control", "defense", "media". New lead opening.
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>>122147
Welcome back, Afternon, your timing is good. I am building a 4 dimensional map of Year vs Month vs Solar Storms vs UFO waves/flaps. It has very interesting consequences. Lots to do and verify still but I might be closing in on attributions for each wave. Verifying photos with the charts assumptions will be fun.

Vertical lines of icons are likely astronomical origin (same month, same point in space = solar ejections, meteors, seasonal clear sky).
Horizontal lines of UFO icons are likely man-made. (same year, multi-month project, especially interesting if > 6 months/half Earth orbit).

Small icons = minor yearly peak -or- 500-1000 sightings per month (UFOCAT).
Big icons = 1000-1500 sightings per month (UFOCAT).
Red big icons = 1500+ sightings per month (UFOCAT).
Coloured squares are magnetic storm (presumed solar coronal mass ejection) intensities.
It seems that blobs from the sun can take years to reach Earth (assuming vertical ejection).

Pre-1952 looks different to post 1952. 1952 line coincides with CIA interest in UFOs for psyops, Adamski and LSD experiments.
Not sure about the other horizontals yet.
Spikes can occur when man-made horizontal runs into astronomical vertical.
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>>122147
>The Gulf War hologram story might be dismissed were it not the case that washingtonpost.com has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS application. The "Holographic Projector" is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to "project information power from space ... for special operations deception missions."

You know what else you can do with that? Crop Circles.
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>>122095
>I'm having a hard time falsifying the Sun/ETN UFOs link