This post is inspired by >>>/mlpol/59382.
I have been researching UFOs and aliens for decades. I have found the best way to understand the phenomena is to time-line it and then see what else was happening around the same time. Time-lining it allows the evolution & origin of certain aspects to show up which means you can trace things back to origin points.
I don't concern myself with if each UFO/alien report is real or not real, but I look at it in a wide ranging meta-view and this shows a sensible evolution which implies it is real and therefore the reports are generally mostly real.
I am not sure what the best way is to do this data dump. I have decided to do a succinct 300 year history which can be expanded on by me asking questions. This allows me to keep my efforts in proportion to actual board interest levels.
This initial section is to show the development of human sky technology and also shows that nothing ET UFO like is happening yet.
1758 - Book: Concerning Earths in the Solar System, in which Emanuel Swedenborg detailed his alleged journeys (spiritual) to the inhabited planets (up to Saturn + 5 exo-planets), solar system barrier, suns are black.
1783 - France: Manned balloons
1803 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune
1850 - and onwards triangular shapes are reported in the sky but when researched most of these can be associated with comets and comet fragments (comets tend to break up near Earth, Sun and Jupiter into sharp angular fragments).
1851 - Dr. William Bland sent design: steam engine driving twin propellers suspended under airship to Great Exhibition, London
1852 - Comet fragment dramatically crashes to Earth with sheets of rain (comet water) and dark ominous clouds with read streaks before the massive chunk crashes into the English channel. The other interesting part about this is that it happens near dawn, and the dawn side of the Earth is in the direction of the Earth's travel around the sun. So the Earth overran this comet fragment and sucked it down into it. This dramatically shows how astronomical phenomena can produce UFO reports. Pic #1 Attached.
1863 - “Aereon” by Solomon Andrews (inventor) flew, unpowered, controllable dirigible,Perth Amboy, New Jersey.
1871 - Mystery airship, Mt. Washington, New Hampshire (Solomon Andrews?) See Pic #2. This is one of the earliest UFO reports and we can see it is consistent with an airship. We have no reason to conclude it is ET yet.
1871 - (Vril, the Power of) The Comming Race fiction novel by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. This book in Germany inspires the use of the term Vril for unknown magical/physical forces and leads to the nick name The Vril Society.
1881 - a comet was mistaken as an unusual object in the sky. See pic #3.
1886 - Book: A Dweller on Two Planets, Atlantis, life on Venus, advanced technology, karma, Mt. Shasta. “No telescope will ever reveal human life on Venus; not that it is not there, but its forms are of the One Substance effected by a range of force rendering them imperceptible to earthly eyes." -- what we see here is the myth of sentient life on other planets in our solar system starting to form. There is no reason to reject this notion at that time.
1886 - cheap way to manufacture aluminium is discovered. At this point airships are flying around, some are secret projects. They use bamboo and cloth and ropes. Cheap aluminium allows them to be made of this metal. France is becoming a leader in airship design. You can think of these airships as the B2 bomber of the day, these are very serious military tech for spying and air to ground attack. Therefore there is secrecy around designs as well.
1891 - Contactee Thomas Blott (William Simpson, 1828-1910) The Man from Mars is a book about a Martian explaining how Mars is great and Earth sux, basically. It is not clear if this was supposed to be fiction or a reported event.
1893 - In the article “Man of the Year Million”, H. G. Wells envisaged humanity transformed into a race of grey-skinned beings, stunted and with big heads. -- the greys!!
So with that look so far we can see many of the elements of aliens and UFOs exist but there are no reports yet of flying saucers or any meaningful reports of flying triangles under intelligent control. All of it, when it comes to ETs, is human imagination. We can reasonably say no ETs are showing up in this 1700s-1800s time period.
In 1893 science starts to speculate about gravity and if we can understand it better and control it.
1893 - Oliver Heaviside makes paper called A GRAVITATIONAL AND ELECTROMAGNETIC ANALOGY http://sergf.ru/Heavisid.htm -- this will be very important as we continue the time lining.
1894 “Aug 26, British admiral reported sighting a large disk with a projection like a tail” – Keyhoe (1950) -- Airship? Science experiment? There are no good references for this report and so it can't be examined further.
1896 - Germany 11 Sep, Zagreb daily newspaper Obzor “The day before yesterday we received a telegram sent by an amateur journalist. He informed us that David Schwarz from Zagreb has invented an [aluminium] airship which he hopes he could direct on his own free will."
1896 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_airship -- this is the UFO flap of 1896-97 but they were airships, not disks, triangles or spacecraft. We know that airships won't work in space so these are human-made. This shows that human advanced tech can be a unsolved mystery. See pics #4 and #5
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>>46885
Thanks that was interesting. We are a part of it. Just as cells are a part of us. It is an emergent thing. Humans will behave in an aggregate way and a structure will emerge from that. Have a helpful chart to clarify the situation :)
Thanks that was interesting. We are a part of it. Just as cells are a part of us. It is an emergent thing. Humans will behave in an aggregate way and a structure will emerge from that. Have a helpful chart to clarify the situation :)
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>>46338
The timing seems off.
1975 US mutilations
>Democratic senator Floyd K. Haskell contacted the FBI asking for help in 1975 due to public concern regarding the issue. He claimed there had been 130 mutilations in Colorado alone, and further reports across nine states.[8] A 1979 FBI report indicated that, according to investigations by the New Mexico State Police, there had been an estimated 8,000 mutilations in Colorado, causing approximately $1,000,000 damage.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation
1987 UK Madcow
where-as madcow emerges in UK about a decade later, see pic. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy
The timing seems off.
1975 US mutilations
>Democratic senator Floyd K. Haskell contacted the FBI asking for help in 1975 due to public concern regarding the issue. He claimed there had been 130 mutilations in Colorado alone, and further reports across nine states.[8] A 1979 FBI report indicated that, according to investigations by the New Mexico State Police, there had been an estimated 8,000 mutilations in Colorado, causing approximately $1,000,000 damage.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation
1987 UK Madcow
where-as madcow emerges in UK about a decade later, see pic. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy
>>46884
A mind virus awards the stupidity of a willing host. Enough said.
>>46887
Haskell has room in his closet for payoffs and 'look-over-heres'. Compare the reports of "flying saucers" between Colorado and New Mexico during those years. What is 12 years to you? Quite a bit. What is 12 years to the monolithic CDC/US Chemical Corps.? Nothing, unless one is perfecting a new weapon.
A mind virus awards the stupidity of a willing host. Enough said.
>>46887
Haskell has room in his closet for payoffs and 'look-over-heres'. Compare the reports of "flying saucers" between Colorado and New Mexico during those years. What is 12 years to you? Quite a bit. What is 12 years to the monolithic CDC/US Chemical Corps.? Nothing, unless one is perfecting a new weapon.
>>46889
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WI 507
IL 364
NJ 357
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NC 322
PA 320
NY 312
OH 254
MN 254
WA 231
MA 223
MI 214
TX 214
MO 196
AZ 190
CT 186
MT 179
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NM 150
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CO 1964 29
CO 1965 60
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CO 1967 365
CO 1968 56
CO 1969 20
CO 1970 28
CO 1971 13
CO 1972 18
CO 1973 31
CO 1974 38
CO 1975 85 <-- this spike correlates with Haskell's report to the FBI.
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CO 1977 27
CO 1978 19
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CO 1983 4
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...
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MN 1979 34
IL 1979 33
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WA 1979 25
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SC 1979 23
NY 1979 22
CT 1979 18
NC 1979 18
VA 1979 16
IN 1979 14
IA 1979 14
PA 1979 13
CO 1979 13
OR 1979 13
ID 1979 11
MO 1979 11
NM 1979 11
...
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CA 940
WI 507
IL 364
NJ 357
FL 323
NC 322
PA 320
NY 312
OH 254
MN 254
WA 231
MA 223
MI 214
TX 214
MO 196
AZ 190
CT 186
MT 179
CO 170
KY 154
NM 150
...
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CO 1962 44
CO 1963 12
CO 1964 29
CO 1965 60
CO 1966 94
CO 1967 365
CO 1968 56
CO 1969 20
CO 1970 28
CO 1971 13
CO 1972 18
CO 1973 31
CO 1974 38
CO 1975 85 <-- this spike correlates with Haskell's report to the FBI.
CO 1976 26
CO 1977 27
CO 1978 19
CO 1979 13
CO 1980 16
CO 1981 5
CO 1982 7
CO 1983 4
CO 1984 1
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CO 1987 4
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MO 1975 53
ME 1975 52
NM 1975 47
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...
>>46889
>>46892
According to https://vault.fbi.gov/Animal%20Mutilation/Animal%20Mutilation%20Part%201%20of%205/view Haskell said the mutes started about 1973. My timeline above has some things missing.
First, UFO count for the USA from CUFOS UFOCAT:
1966 4881
1967 6961
1968 2554
1969 1972
1970 974
1971 910
1972 1725
1973 5545
1974 1849
1975 2825
1976 1565
1977 1296
1978 1477
1979 643
Something happened around 1973:
>“The first recombinant DNA molecules were generated at Stanford University in 1972, utilising the cleavage properties of restriction enzymes (scissors) and the ability of DNA ligase to join DNA strands together (glue). The importance of these first tentative experiments cannot be overestimated. Scientists could now join different DNA molecules together and could link the DNA of one organism to that of a completely different organism.”
– Desmond S. T. Nicholl (2008)
>[Biotechnology] use accelerated in the twentieth century, particularly after the first published instance of recombinant DNA (r-DNA) research in 1973 and the subsequent application of this technique for microorganisms, plants, animals, and humans.
- Chimeras, Hybrids and Interspecies Research Politics and Policymaking, Andrea L. Bonnicksen
>The 1973 sighting wave was concentrated in the last half of the year, and
featured the largest number of humanoid occupant sightings in many years.
- NICAP https://web.archive.org/web/20070506032731/http://www.nicap.org/waves/1973fullrep.htm
>“Witness had scoop mark type scar on her leg below her knee.” First scoop mark.
– NICAP, ibid.
>The story of Candy Jones also has what we might call a “negative relevance” to the abduction accounts. Because the Controllers did not establish a hypnotic cover story, or pseudomemory, the true facts of the case managed to percolate into her conscious mind. No matter how thorough the post-hypnotic amnesia, leaks will occur—hence the need for a false memory, to fill the gap of recollection. The CIA learns from its mistakes. Candy’s hypno-programming broke down in early 1973—the year the “alien disguise” became (if my hypothesis proves correct)
– The Controllers by Martin Cannon
The first recombinant mouse was created in 1974
- Chimeras, Hybrids and Interspecies Research Politics and Policymaking, Andrea L. Bonnicksen
So we have a spike in UFOs, a spike in staged "ETs", the starting of scoops marks, the starting of cattle mutilations and the new ability to combine any DNA with any DNA.... hmmm.
>>46892
According to https://vault.fbi.gov/Animal%20Mutilation/Animal%20Mutilation%20Part%201%20of%205/view Haskell said the mutes started about 1973. My timeline above has some things missing.
First, UFO count for the USA from CUFOS UFOCAT:
1966 4881
1967 6961
1968 2554
1969 1972
1970 974
1971 910
1972 1725
1973 5545
1974 1849
1975 2825
1976 1565
1977 1296
1978 1477
1979 643
Something happened around 1973:
>“The first recombinant DNA molecules were generated at Stanford University in 1972, utilising the cleavage properties of restriction enzymes (scissors) and the ability of DNA ligase to join DNA strands together (glue). The importance of these first tentative experiments cannot be overestimated. Scientists could now join different DNA molecules together and could link the DNA of one organism to that of a completely different organism.”
– Desmond S. T. Nicholl (2008)
>[Biotechnology] use accelerated in the twentieth century, particularly after the first published instance of recombinant DNA (r-DNA) research in 1973 and the subsequent application of this technique for microorganisms, plants, animals, and humans.
- Chimeras, Hybrids and Interspecies Research Politics and Policymaking, Andrea L. Bonnicksen
>The 1973 sighting wave was concentrated in the last half of the year, and
featured the largest number of humanoid occupant sightings in many years.
- NICAP https://web.archive.org/web/20070506032731/http://www.nicap.org/waves/1973fullrep.htm
>“Witness had scoop mark type scar on her leg below her knee.” First scoop mark.
– NICAP, ibid.
>The story of Candy Jones also has what we might call a “negative relevance” to the abduction accounts. Because the Controllers did not establish a hypnotic cover story, or pseudomemory, the true facts of the case managed to percolate into her conscious mind. No matter how thorough the post-hypnotic amnesia, leaks will occur—hence the need for a false memory, to fill the gap of recollection. The CIA learns from its mistakes. Candy’s hypno-programming broke down in early 1973—the year the “alien disguise” became (if my hypothesis proves correct)
– The Controllers by Martin Cannon
The first recombinant mouse was created in 1974
- Chimeras, Hybrids and Interspecies Research Politics and Policymaking, Andrea L. Bonnicksen
So we have a spike in UFOs, a spike in staged "ETs", the starting of scoops marks, the starting of cattle mutilations and the new ability to combine any DNA with any DNA.... hmmm.
>>46351
AfterNon, I came across these today, related to "World Monarchy"? Thoughts?
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/2017-usna-divinagracia-treaty
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/royal-pcijicjicc-notice
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/decision-of-the-royal-icjicc-court
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/royal-pcijicjicc-notice
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fr-1782.asp
Source: https://benjaminfulford.net/2018/01/15/tensions-rise-bloodlines-illuminati-final-showdown-looms-u-s-corporate-government/
AfterNon, I came across these today, related to "World Monarchy"? Thoughts?
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/2017-usna-divinagracia-treaty
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/royal-pcijicjicc-notice
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/decision-of-the-royal-icjicc-court
https://www.slideshare.net/ICJ-ICC/royal-pcijicjicc-notice
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fr-1782.asp
Source: https://benjaminfulford.net/2018/01/15/tensions-rise-bloodlines-illuminati-final-showdown-looms-u-s-corporate-government/
>>46900
Correct, the numbers show that such "mutilations" had been suppressed for years. Also, what did I tell you about Fort Dietrick and Plum Island failing to cover their tracks? This is one of those instances.
"Scoop marks" are representative of a medical device that has gone virtually unnoticed, or discreetly denied, for the past 60 years. It essentially resembles a sharpened pair of spoons attached to pliers, meant to take a solid surface skin sample without anesthesia. Now correlate the numbers of "scoop marks" with the "increasing UFO reports". No coincidence there.
>>46907
Categorically, none of those can be discounted as the ICJ-ICC is registered as a, quote, "sovereignty owned court with jurisdiction applicable the world over, save for within the vatican". It would not be a surprise to find those documents are 100% legitimate. Unfortunately for the debacle of the QAnon group's infinite LARP'ing, Trump did not abolish "Admiralty Law", which most of those documents are descended from, or touch on. "Admiralty Law" is presided over by primarily catholic crypto-jewish judges hailing from the officer ranks of: the Royal Crown Navy, the Royal Crown Marines, and the Royal Crown Coast Guard, each of whom has sworn oaths to uphold the BAR, or British-American Rules (Association). Many previous concerns of triplethink in the last link are becoming newly apparent to the general public, particularly when it comes to the mentioned names.
Correct, the numbers show that such "mutilations" had been suppressed for years. Also, what did I tell you about Fort Dietrick and Plum Island failing to cover their tracks? This is one of those instances.
"Scoop marks" are representative of a medical device that has gone virtually unnoticed, or discreetly denied, for the past 60 years. It essentially resembles a sharpened pair of spoons attached to pliers, meant to take a solid surface skin sample without anesthesia. Now correlate the numbers of "scoop marks" with the "increasing UFO reports". No coincidence there.
>>46907
Categorically, none of those can be discounted as the ICJ-ICC is registered as a, quote, "sovereignty owned court with jurisdiction applicable the world over, save for within the vatican". It would not be a surprise to find those documents are 100% legitimate. Unfortunately for the debacle of the QAnon group's infinite LARP'ing, Trump did not abolish "Admiralty Law", which most of those documents are descended from, or touch on. "Admiralty Law" is presided over by primarily catholic crypto-jewish judges hailing from the officer ranks of: the Royal Crown Navy, the Royal Crown Marines, and the Royal Crown Coast Guard, each of whom has sworn oaths to uphold the BAR, or British-American Rules (Association). Many previous concerns of triplethink in the last link are becoming newly apparent to the general public, particularly when it comes to the mentioned names.
>>32215
Have had time to research your question of:
>"One of the things I have pondered is, can you send light pulses which mimic the protocol of the eye talking to the brain to create illusions?"
An answer has been provided to me, and that answer is a distinct yes. One of Project Redlight's goals was to combine holographic LED usage with infrasound. The full process is simple: projecting electromagnetic holograph data from a silicon chip or tape drive through a focused infrasound generator. It's.. simple, devious, can be combined with other onboard systems. Low power expenditure, cheap to produce, virtually zero maintenance. This is an indication of several problems that I've considered for some time now regarding many of the "too similar" men in suits reports. The first one is that this results in what I'm going to, for right now, call a "canned memory"; such a memory of a specific craft and occupants is universal among a large number of witnesses. The total number of far too similar reports of "little grey/green men descending from a (shape) craft" from 1967 until 1983 vastly outweigh all other reports. The second one is that such false memories are not only dreamlike, or as the conscious mind would deem them: created from stale, grainy footage. This places an unusually high, verifiable number of uses by the various MKULTRA systems into the general public's log to be searched through.
Have had time to research your question of:
>"One of the things I have pondered is, can you send light pulses which mimic the protocol of the eye talking to the brain to create illusions?"
An answer has been provided to me, and that answer is a distinct yes. One of Project Redlight's goals was to combine holographic LED usage with infrasound. The full process is simple: projecting electromagnetic holograph data from a silicon chip or tape drive through a focused infrasound generator. It's.. simple, devious, can be combined with other onboard systems. Low power expenditure, cheap to produce, virtually zero maintenance. This is an indication of several problems that I've considered for some time now regarding many of the "too similar" men in suits reports. The first one is that this results in what I'm going to, for right now, call a "canned memory"; such a memory of a specific craft and occupants is universal among a large number of witnesses. The total number of far too similar reports of "little grey/green men descending from a (shape) craft" from 1967 until 1983 vastly outweigh all other reports. The second one is that such false memories are not only dreamlike, or as the conscious mind would deem them: created from stale, grainy footage. This places an unusually high, verifiable number of uses by the various MKULTRA systems into the general public's log to be searched through.
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it's obvious, even of all of these were mere prototypes, i never bought the ET shit.
yes, that's a recomfort to know that mathematically we can't be alone in the universe. but even if a civilization have millions of years of advance won't change a lot of things: you cannot travel faster than light, and light is slow at the scale of the universe. 300,000Km/s. we would need a hyperdrive of at least 300,000,000Km/s to really travel through the galaxy in a lifetime, and even at some point the spacetime is weird and won't let us.
that's the cruelty of being alone.
We have killed our gods. but the man can't live without gods, especially since he invented the nuclear weapon. So he went with ETs of all kind.
all of what are the product of jets and other airships by the early 40-50s and ongoing. I've been really discussing about the UFO phenomenon spotted in this region and in belgium in the 1990s, and from every pic, and description, that doesn't look like anything "aliens" would build; but 100% human. Stealth technology is kind of mainstream since the early 1980s. If that's our government testing a new tactical bomber or recon plane, that's nice, we understand, our tax money is used to something useful. IF the government claims that's really not them however there is a problem, if the airforce of any nation that's been spotting an UFO unable to intercept it and defend your airspace, from a foreign intelligence, this is a defense problem.
(pic related: a wonderbolt scrambled to proceed the interception of a non-responding aircraft over the Equestrian territory )
yes, that's a recomfort to know that mathematically we can't be alone in the universe. but even if a civilization have millions of years of advance won't change a lot of things: you cannot travel faster than light, and light is slow at the scale of the universe. 300,000Km/s. we would need a hyperdrive of at least 300,000,000Km/s to really travel through the galaxy in a lifetime, and even at some point the spacetime is weird and won't let us.
that's the cruelty of being alone.
We have killed our gods. but the man can't live without gods, especially since he invented the nuclear weapon. So he went with ETs of all kind.
all of what are the product of jets and other airships by the early 40-50s and ongoing. I've been really discussing about the UFO phenomenon spotted in this region and in belgium in the 1990s, and from every pic, and description, that doesn't look like anything "aliens" would build; but 100% human. Stealth technology is kind of mainstream since the early 1980s. If that's our government testing a new tactical bomber or recon plane, that's nice, we understand, our tax money is used to something useful. IF the government claims that's really not them however there is a problem, if the airforce of any nation that's been spotting an UFO unable to intercept it and defend your airspace, from a foreign intelligence, this is a defense problem.
(pic related: a wonderbolt scrambled to proceed the interception of a non-responding aircraft over the Equestrian territory )
>>46912
Genetic Experiments will be happening, the temptation is too great and fits perfectly with the eugenics ideology.
Genetic Experiments will be happening, the temptation is too great and fits perfectly with the eugenics ideology.
>>46916
holographic LED
???
>projecting electromagnetic holograph data from a silicon chip or tape drive
Hard drives and punch cards not allowed?
>through a focused infrasound generator.
???
Did you technobable?
holographic LED
???
>projecting electromagnetic holograph data from a silicon chip or tape drive
Hard drives and punch cards not allowed?
>through a focused infrasound generator.
???
Did you technobable?
>>46940
Using "threat of aliens" as a weaponized cover ploy for any situation imaginable became the norm in the 1980's when it became apparent there was known no life in the universe. Reagan "Star Wars" program along with subsequent criminalizations and new "drug wars" dumped 4 trillion dollars into US black projects. It was not until the late 1950's that concerted efforts to undermine so-called national security using the threat of alien invasions across the world became common.
>>47232
There were no hard drives in the 1960's, and no, those are not my words. Colleague's quote: "Look at a modern luxury car to see how many combined technologies are in use. They've been around for a while but now the new thing is overlaying an active camera feed with distance gauges using night vision, thermal, infrared, or starlight modes. Imagine a targeting system using those in conjunction by slapping active designation markers on top of every aircraft, tank, vehicle, whatever you can think of in the vicinity."
Infrasound generation is a simple technology; focused in this case refers to tight beam transmission. There is far more technology in the hands of those that should not have such than is readily apparent.
Using "threat of aliens" as a weaponized cover ploy for any situation imaginable became the norm in the 1980's when it became apparent there was known no life in the universe. Reagan "Star Wars" program along with subsequent criminalizations and new "drug wars" dumped 4 trillion dollars into US black projects. It was not until the late 1950's that concerted efforts to undermine so-called national security using the threat of alien invasions across the world became common.
>>47232
There were no hard drives in the 1960's, and no, those are not my words. Colleague's quote: "Look at a modern luxury car to see how many combined technologies are in use. They've been around for a while but now the new thing is overlaying an active camera feed with distance gauges using night vision, thermal, infrared, or starlight modes. Imagine a targeting system using those in conjunction by slapping active designation markers on top of every aircraft, tank, vehicle, whatever you can think of in the vicinity."
Infrasound generation is a simple technology; focused in this case refers to tight beam transmission. There is far more technology in the hands of those that should not have such than is readily apparent.
>>47232
LED's have been used to create holographic images since 1962, perhaps becoming less experimental in 1963. Look up any Hatsune Miku concert, or any other venue where holograms are in use, to understand the simplicity, ease of use, cost effectiveness.
Imprinting data on what we would now call a silicon chip is mid-1940's technology. V1, V2 ring any bells?
LED's have been used to create holographic images since 1962, perhaps becoming less experimental in 1963. Look up any Hatsune Miku concert, or any other venue where holograms are in use, to understand the simplicity, ease of use, cost effectiveness.
Imprinting data on what we would now call a silicon chip is mid-1940's technology. V1, V2 ring any bells?
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>>47394
>Infrasound generation is a simple technology; focused in this case refers to tight beam transmission.
Infrasound disperses very easily, bass wraps around corners, if you want tight beam you need to use ultrasound. Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF9G9M0cR0E
I don't see how this relates to "combine holographic LED usage with infrasound" ( >>46916 ) however projection of sound to a distant place is reasonable and dates to about the '50s or '60s as per the video,
>>47396
What type of hologram?
The Hatsune Miku concerts have video screens in the background. Not convinced it is actual 3D holodeck-like.
I am looking through videos for actual projections of holographs into space. None of it looks viable except in precise circumstances.
This one shows how it works with mist: https://youtu.be/XXsfO_jIvg4
3D, multiple viewers but need a special table and glasses: https://newatlas.com/hologram-tables-euclideon/50868/
See last 2 pages of attachment #1 for a projected cude shape. Also, quote:
1976 August 2, 4.00am TEN MILE HILL, Tasmania
Mr Wood was returning home in the early hours. At the bottom of Ten Mile Hill when driving north a screen like projection appears in front of his car, it seemed to fill the field of view. At the same time a loud distorted electrical type music sound was heard. On the screen he saw a yellow light source to the left and a large figure in profile to the right. The figure was in a tight fitting black jacket and light coloured trousers, it seemed to be turning towards the witness. Wood braked but just seemed to drive through the screen, it was all over in a few seconds.[/b]
end quote.
Both events involve intense sound as you suggest. I don't understand the relationship between infrasound and holographic projection of light from LEDs. The attachment #1 event would seem to be an actual projection of a crude type. The Ten Mile Hill event seems more like a mist based hologram. Both happen in the same time frame and holography begins about 1968 and gains attention in the 1970s ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holography#Art ) making the timing correct.
And then how does all of this relate to sending light pulses in a protocol the eye uses to communicate with the brain?
Now I need a lie down :)
>>46916
>Infrasound generation is a simple technology; focused in this case refers to tight beam transmission.
Infrasound disperses very easily, bass wraps around corners, if you want tight beam you need to use ultrasound. Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF9G9M0cR0E
I don't see how this relates to "combine holographic LED usage with infrasound" ( >>46916 ) however projection of sound to a distant place is reasonable and dates to about the '50s or '60s as per the video,
>>47396
What type of hologram?
The Hatsune Miku concerts have video screens in the background. Not convinced it is actual 3D holodeck-like.
I am looking through videos for actual projections of holographs into space. None of it looks viable except in precise circumstances.
This one shows how it works with mist: https://youtu.be/XXsfO_jIvg4
3D, multiple viewers but need a special table and glasses: https://newatlas.com/hologram-tables-euclideon/50868/
See last 2 pages of attachment #1 for a projected cude shape. Also, quote:
1976 August 2, 4.00am TEN MILE HILL, Tasmania
Mr Wood was returning home in the early hours. At the bottom of Ten Mile Hill when driving north a screen like projection appears in front of his car, it seemed to fill the field of view. At the same time a loud distorted electrical type music sound was heard. On the screen he saw a yellow light source to the left and a large figure in profile to the right. The figure was in a tight fitting black jacket and light coloured trousers, it seemed to be turning towards the witness. Wood braked but just seemed to drive through the screen, it was all over in a few seconds.[/b]
end quote.
Both events involve intense sound as you suggest. I don't understand the relationship between infrasound and holographic projection of light from LEDs. The attachment #1 event would seem to be an actual projection of a crude type. The Ten Mile Hill event seems more like a mist based hologram. Both happen in the same time frame and holography begins about 1968 and gains attention in the 1970s ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holography#Art ) making the timing correct.
And then how does all of this relate to sending light pulses in a protocol the eye uses to communicate with the brain?
Now I need a lie down :)
>>46916
>>47532
I do not know the basis for holographic technology, nor the specific uses of it, how it functions, what it takes to combine technologies, nor jack shit else. A colleague was asked, Herr Vril; that colleague answered, LIKELY to their own detriment. For the last time: I was not TechEng. Do not make the same mistake twice.
A specific frequency capable of distorting physical vision was mentioned. Combined technologies are the answer I was specifically given.
I do not know the basis for holographic technology, nor the specific uses of it, how it functions, what it takes to combine technologies, nor jack shit else. A colleague was asked, Herr Vril; that colleague answered, LIKELY to their own detriment. For the last time: I was not TechEng. Do not make the same mistake twice.
A specific frequency capable of distorting physical vision was mentioned. Combined technologies are the answer I was specifically given.
>The full process is simple… >>46916
>I do not know… >>47882
Thanks for clearing that up.
>A specific frequency capable of distorting physical vision was mentioned.
This is reasonable assuming we are talking about the 19Hz infrasound to vibrate the eyeball which we have discussed before. You could then cloud the perception further by using lasers to project a view onto a remote surface (ground, clouds, mist, car windscreens, etc)
The bass tone is unlikely to be focusable and would affect everyone in it's path. There are some good examples, which might be this, from the '70s. I might do a study of this further and see what shakes out.
Here is an example from the 1970s, badly Google translated:
>Suddenly the sky was torn apart and an immense orange light split sharply into the shape of a saucer, surmounted by a dome. The two gendarmes could not believe their eyes, and their anxious looks turned to me. "My word," said one of them, "it suffices to speak of it, and here is one! The apparition had lasted only a few seconds, but the gigantic dimensions left no doubt about it. The craft was at least three hundred meters long. Deep inside me, I was happy, because there were now two gendarmes among the eyewitnesses of the phenomenon. We still had our eyes riveted on the vanished image and we lost ourselves in conjectures, when the same phenomenon recurred, with the same spontaneity, the same dimensions, the same color and the same absence of noise. The Omi had an oblique position in relation to the ground but the transience of the event led us to suppose that the craft (or both craft) materialized or dematerialized at altitude according to whether they landed or tore down. This was my only observation of the kind made in Corsica [French Island].
They had been compromised earlier though when this happened:
>It was then that we noticed, about thirty meters from us, a strange green glow along the road and at the height of the trees. In the immediate future, I thought it was a simple reflection of the moon in the foliage, so diffuse was the light. The glow was motionless and about fifty centimeters in diameter. The fluctuations turned yellow according to the luminous intensity. We were all surprised by this unusual presence and no one was rash enough to get out of the car and get to that glow.
>Undoubtedly, the "thing" was closely related to the UFO we observed a few minutes ago.
>Undoubtedly, it was one of his satellite balls that had engaged in the infernal round around the light beam and which, at present, seemed to observe us.
>Strangely enough, we all fell asleep at the end of this observation, which lasted about half an hour, and this despite our state of excitement quite [understandable. We woke up at five in the morning, chilled with cold, with a lingering impression of what we had all experienced.
>We had communicated with a UFO using light signals. We then remembered the smallest details. The relation of our individual observations, of our impressions, of our reactions, converged on this common denominator: a UFO, a small ball which observes us a few steps from us, a beam of light, balls which revolve around the machine , the sleep that assails us …
>We noticed that the clock on the dashboard was twenty minutes late. This roughly corresponds to the estimate of the time during which the little ball observed us. There were four of us that night when we saw a UFO close up.
– La Corse Base Secrete D'Ovni by Jean Pierr Chambraud
You can use microwaves (or sound) to send someone to sleep:
>For our present purposes, the most significant electromagnetic research findings concern microwave signals modulated by hypnoidal EEG frequencies. Microwaves can act much like the “hemi-synch” device previously described—that is, they can entrain the brain to theta rhythms. I need not emphasize the implications of remotely synchronizing the brain to resonate at a frequency conducive to sleep, or to hypnosis.
…
>In 1970, a RAND Corporation scientist reported that microwaves could be used to promote insomnia, fatigue, irritability, memory loss, and hallucinations.
again the 1970s
>Frey demonstrated in the early 1960s that microwaves could produce booming, hissing, buzzing, and other intracerebral static (this phenomenon is now called “the Frey effect”); in 1973, Dr. Joseph Sharp, of the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, expanded on Frey’s work in an experiment where the subject—in this case, Sharp himself—“heard” and understood spoken words delivered via a pulsed-microwave analog of the speaker’s sound vibrations.
– The Controllers by Martin Cannon
The combination of microwaves and sound to induce altered states (then add (remote?) hypnosis), using microwaves to produce apparent sound, using microwaves to produce hallucinations, using lasers to draw remote images on surfaces, and infrasound of 19Hz to vibrate the eyeball, would make some truly odd experiences.
>Do not make the same mistake twice.
This stick doesn't work. Try replacing the batteries?
>I do not know… >>47882
Thanks for clearing that up.
>A specific frequency capable of distorting physical vision was mentioned.
This is reasonable assuming we are talking about the 19Hz infrasound to vibrate the eyeball which we have discussed before. You could then cloud the perception further by using lasers to project a view onto a remote surface (ground, clouds, mist, car windscreens, etc)
The bass tone is unlikely to be focusable and would affect everyone in it's path. There are some good examples, which might be this, from the '70s. I might do a study of this further and see what shakes out.
Here is an example from the 1970s, badly Google translated:
>Suddenly the sky was torn apart and an immense orange light split sharply into the shape of a saucer, surmounted by a dome. The two gendarmes could not believe their eyes, and their anxious looks turned to me. "My word," said one of them, "it suffices to speak of it, and here is one! The apparition had lasted only a few seconds, but the gigantic dimensions left no doubt about it. The craft was at least three hundred meters long. Deep inside me, I was happy, because there were now two gendarmes among the eyewitnesses of the phenomenon. We still had our eyes riveted on the vanished image and we lost ourselves in conjectures, when the same phenomenon recurred, with the same spontaneity, the same dimensions, the same color and the same absence of noise. The Omi had an oblique position in relation to the ground but the transience of the event led us to suppose that the craft (or both craft) materialized or dematerialized at altitude according to whether they landed or tore down. This was my only observation of the kind made in Corsica [French Island].
They had been compromised earlier though when this happened:
>It was then that we noticed, about thirty meters from us, a strange green glow along the road and at the height of the trees. In the immediate future, I thought it was a simple reflection of the moon in the foliage, so diffuse was the light. The glow was motionless and about fifty centimeters in diameter. The fluctuations turned yellow according to the luminous intensity. We were all surprised by this unusual presence and no one was rash enough to get out of the car and get to that glow.
>Undoubtedly, the "thing" was closely related to the UFO we observed a few minutes ago.
>Undoubtedly, it was one of his satellite balls that had engaged in the infernal round around the light beam and which, at present, seemed to observe us.
>Strangely enough, we all fell asleep at the end of this observation, which lasted about half an hour, and this despite our state of excitement quite [understandable. We woke up at five in the morning, chilled with cold, with a lingering impression of what we had all experienced.
>We had communicated with a UFO using light signals. We then remembered the smallest details. The relation of our individual observations, of our impressions, of our reactions, converged on this common denominator: a UFO, a small ball which observes us a few steps from us, a beam of light, balls which revolve around the machine , the sleep that assails us …
>We noticed that the clock on the dashboard was twenty minutes late. This roughly corresponds to the estimate of the time during which the little ball observed us. There were four of us that night when we saw a UFO close up.
– La Corse Base Secrete D'Ovni by Jean Pierr Chambraud
You can use microwaves (or sound) to send someone to sleep:
>For our present purposes, the most significant electromagnetic research findings concern microwave signals modulated by hypnoidal EEG frequencies. Microwaves can act much like the “hemi-synch” device previously described—that is, they can entrain the brain to theta rhythms. I need not emphasize the implications of remotely synchronizing the brain to resonate at a frequency conducive to sleep, or to hypnosis.
…
>In 1970, a RAND Corporation scientist reported that microwaves could be used to promote insomnia, fatigue, irritability, memory loss, and hallucinations.
again the 1970s
>Frey demonstrated in the early 1960s that microwaves could produce booming, hissing, buzzing, and other intracerebral static (this phenomenon is now called “the Frey effect”); in 1973, Dr. Joseph Sharp, of the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, expanded on Frey’s work in an experiment where the subject—in this case, Sharp himself—“heard” and understood spoken words delivered via a pulsed-microwave analog of the speaker’s sound vibrations.
– The Controllers by Martin Cannon
The combination of microwaves and sound to induce altered states (then add (remote?) hypnosis), using microwaves to produce apparent sound, using microwaves to produce hallucinations, using lasers to draw remote images on surfaces, and infrasound of 19Hz to vibrate the eyeball, would make some truly odd experiences.
>Do not make the same mistake twice.
This stick doesn't work. Try replacing the batteries?
>>48072
I asked a colleague a question, they gave a simple answer, there is your dissonance. What was told to me was the "simple process", a technology of which I do not know nor can correlate enough to understand it. Not TechEng.
1960's and 1970's were the centerpieces of, quote, "shaping public perception on potential extraterrestrial encounters". Public fear over "Red Menace" started in 50's but failed to gain traction at the time. In the 1960's, the space race, quote, "ignited human imaginations in ways that shouldn't have been. The moon was impossible to visit, probes sent into outer space failed to respond, and we were still alone. So what do you, if you had unlimited funds and limited time, come up with to fill the gaps between the human world and a universe that was potentially filled with exotic life? Aliens." The early 1970's featured many pre-CGI technologies, among others, that would lead to the common 1980's uses of graphical effects the likes of which Stalin and FDR's photograph manipulators could never achieve.
The answer of "combined technologies" was given. We cannot contact other Afters in their own circles to confirm this. There are others, quite possibly one such as the German poster whom delivered numerous images in this thread before, that understand more of what that specifically means. Weird events are focii.
One does not need batteries if generation systems are capable of accommodating all humans, all the time, without infrastructure concerns.
https://truedisclosure.org/news/solar-warden-inception-to-present-day.html
I asked a colleague a question, they gave a simple answer, there is your dissonance. What was told to me was the "simple process", a technology of which I do not know nor can correlate enough to understand it. Not TechEng.
1960's and 1970's were the centerpieces of, quote, "shaping public perception on potential extraterrestrial encounters". Public fear over "Red Menace" started in 50's but failed to gain traction at the time. In the 1960's, the space race, quote, "ignited human imaginations in ways that shouldn't have been. The moon was impossible to visit, probes sent into outer space failed to respond, and we were still alone. So what do you, if you had unlimited funds and limited time, come up with to fill the gaps between the human world and a universe that was potentially filled with exotic life? Aliens." The early 1970's featured many pre-CGI technologies, among others, that would lead to the common 1980's uses of graphical effects the likes of which Stalin and FDR's photograph manipulators could never achieve.
The answer of "combined technologies" was given. We cannot contact other Afters in their own circles to confirm this. There are others, quite possibly one such as the German poster whom delivered numerous images in this thread before, that understand more of what that specifically means. Weird events are focii.
One does not need batteries if generation systems are capable of accommodating all humans, all the time, without infrastructure concerns.
https://truedisclosure.org/news/solar-warden-inception-to-present-day.html
>>48756
Okay.
I don't buy the Solar Warden story. From past readings of this the story IIRC was McKinnon was stoned and entered the NASA computer that had no protection, saw spreadsheets of the transfers between space fleets etc. etc. This is all as believable as Roswell aliens. This then becomes mythology mixed in with Ra and the Sphere Being Alliance.
It is logical that humans have a space fleet, if we assume Nazi's did discover "anti-grav" and aircraft are far more sophisticated than reported.
Also while I have your attention >>/mlpol/109067 MIC vs "World Monachy"?
Okay.
I don't buy the Solar Warden story. From past readings of this the story IIRC was McKinnon was stoned and entered the NASA computer that had no protection, saw spreadsheets of the transfers between space fleets etc. etc. This is all as believable as Roswell aliens. This then becomes mythology mixed in with Ra and the Sphere Being Alliance.
It is logical that humans have a space fleet, if we assume Nazi's did discover "anti-grav" and aircraft are far more sophisticated than reported.
Also while I have your attention >>/mlpol/109067 MIC vs "World Monachy"?
>>48756
Okay.
I don't buy the Solar Warden story. From past readings of this the story IIRC was McKinnon was stoned and entered the NASA computer that had no protection, saw spreadsheets of the transfers between space fleets etc. etc. This is all as believable as Roswell aliens. This then becomes mythology mixed in with Ra and the Sphere Being Alliance.
It is logical that humans have a space fleet, if we assume Nazi's did discover "anti-grav" and aircraft are far more sophisticated than reported.
Also while I have your attention >>>/mlpol/109067 → MIC vs "World Monachy"?
Okay.
I don't buy the Solar Warden story. From past readings of this the story IIRC was McKinnon was stoned and entered the NASA computer that had no protection, saw spreadsheets of the transfers between space fleets etc. etc. This is all as believable as Roswell aliens. This then becomes mythology mixed in with Ra and the Sphere Being Alliance.
It is logical that humans have a space fleet, if we assume Nazi's did discover "anti-grav" and aircraft are far more sophisticated than reported.
Also while I have your attention >>>/mlpol/109067 → MIC vs "World Monachy"?
>>46912
>"Scoop marks" are representative of a medical device that has gone virtually unnoticed
Can this device be pointed out?
>"Scoop marks" are representative of a medical device that has gone virtually unnoticed
Can this device be pointed out?
>>49186
Of course not, McKinnon was compromised from the start regarding his access. There are some subtle hints dropped in straight from PBB's disinfo book. Add this to your timeline then begin poking holes in the stories. Then again, a certain presidential order dictating a public satellite blackout is still in effect. At least, until 2021.
There was no such organization or group that has ever been identified as "Nazi", except in war propaganda films. The word was taken from the several hundred thousand AshekeNAZI infiltrators into the German industries, political circles, and military. This is also related to Stalin's Torch Men Command, creating the enslavement, or should I be nice and call it crippling, wheat/farming deal against the US and a number of countries.
>>49194
If there was a list of every medical device created since 1962, there is a high probability, yes.
Of course not, McKinnon was compromised from the start regarding his access. There are some subtle hints dropped in straight from PBB's disinfo book. Add this to your timeline then begin poking holes in the stories. Then again, a certain presidential order dictating a public satellite blackout is still in effect. At least, until 2021.
There was no such organization or group that has ever been identified as "Nazi", except in war propaganda films. The word was taken from the several hundred thousand AshekeNAZI infiltrators into the German industries, political circles, and military. This is also related to Stalin's Torch Men Command, creating the enslavement, or should I be nice and call it crippling, wheat/farming deal against the US and a number of countries.
>>49194
If there was a list of every medical device created since 1962, there is a high probability, yes.
>holograms
Holograms in the air by making the air a plasma where the laser achieves focus.
https://youtu.be/ikuSPBZjkhw
Holograms in the air by making the air a plasma where the laser achieves focus.
https://youtu.be/ikuSPBZjkhw
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>>49193
I don't believe in antigravity tech. unless I get the proof that gravity is a force like the three others that have a quantum model. like the other forces, electromagnetism is a good example and is not like gravity.
also the UFO bullshit... I have seen one, IRL one day, it was years ago. I can assure you it's scary, but to me these aren't alien tech.
when there's a triangular shaped plane hovering with some gas engine ensuring stability in flight, then rushing full post-combustion far away, I can assure you this is not alien or ancient nazi shit. These jets are European tech.
I did fill a report to the gendarmerie and they oriented me to someone at the GEIPAN in 2013. With photo.
Explained what I seen and that to me it was too familiar looking, for being a /k/ fag, to existing human tech.
guy: “I'm not here to believe in aliens. I gather data. There's no sensationalism, UFO means unknown, it was an aircraft, unidentified, low altitude.”
So? Will we ever know who developed those jets? What nation is sending them? Are they armed? with warheads on a bombs bay, or infrared cameras? Even as stealth it can get, why don't we have an efficient radar network to detect such an aircraft on our territory and intercept it/shoot it?
Also, it is noted those jets are observed around nuclear, military and marine installations over time.
People in this situation are dumb. their opinion will change depending what they are told to believe. All I know is how all this UFO shit might hide something bigger. Who is spying who?
everyone still goes in the news:"ALIENS!"
It's definitely a man-made machine with a fancy radar-unfriendly shape, for God's sake !
I don't believe in antigravity tech. unless I get the proof that gravity is a force like the three others that have a quantum model. like the other forces, electromagnetism is a good example and is not like gravity.
also the UFO bullshit... I have seen one, IRL one day, it was years ago. I can assure you it's scary, but to me these aren't alien tech.
when there's a triangular shaped plane hovering with some gas engine ensuring stability in flight, then rushing full post-combustion far away, I can assure you this is not alien or ancient nazi shit. These jets are European tech.
I did fill a report to the gendarmerie and they oriented me to someone at the GEIPAN in 2013. With photo.
Explained what I seen and that to me it was too familiar looking, for being a /k/ fag, to existing human tech.
guy: “I'm not here to believe in aliens. I gather data. There's no sensationalism, UFO means unknown, it was an aircraft, unidentified, low altitude.”
So? Will we ever know who developed those jets? What nation is sending them? Are they armed? with warheads on a bombs bay, or infrared cameras? Even as stealth it can get, why don't we have an efficient radar network to detect such an aircraft on our territory and intercept it/shoot it?
Also, it is noted those jets are observed around nuclear, military and marine installations over time.
People in this situation are dumb. their opinion will change depending what they are told to believe. All I know is how all this UFO shit might hide something bigger. Who is spying who?
everyone still goes in the news:"ALIENS!"
It's definitely a man-made machine with a fancy radar-unfriendly shape, for God's sake !
>>54696
>I don't believe in antigravity tech.
That is a logical fallacy. It doesn't matter whether you believe in it or not.
>It's definitely a man-made machine with a fancy radar-unfriendly shape, for God's sake !
There are many cases of UFOs, why would one cross out the possibility of some belonging to non-humans. >>49188 →
>I don't believe in antigravity tech.
That is a logical fallacy. It doesn't matter whether you believe in it or not.
>It's definitely a man-made machine with a fancy radar-unfriendly shape, for God's sake !
There are many cases of UFOs, why would one cross out the possibility of some belonging to non-humans. >>49188 →
Will Vril ever come back?
That's it?
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https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document_dev/2018/05/04/Advanced_Space_Propulsion_1525479713208_41686961_ver1.0.pdf
The 17 page document explores the theme that "...empty space itself (the quantum vacuum or spacetime metric) might be engineered to provide energy/thrust for future space vehicles."
http://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2018/05/third-advanced-aerospace-weapon-system.html
The 17 page document explores the theme that "...empty space itself (the quantum vacuum or spacetime metric) might be engineered to provide energy/thrust for future space vehicles."
http://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2018/05/third-advanced-aerospace-weapon-system.html
>>65796
I was testing that I had the same ID after all this time. And then I can use the tripcode to verify me elsewhere. Thank you though. :)
I was testing that I had the same ID after all this time. And then I can use the tripcode to verify me elsewhere. Thank you though. :)
test
>>65811
Somewhere between 0 and infinity. We can't say for sure what happened in pre-history but we can say that dreams and drugs and primitive psychological experiments are part of the options for "otherwordly" experiences.
Almost all cases when examined from say a 20 year distance can be explained with human technology advances unknown to the normal population at that time. Microwaves can beam voices into your head, magnetic fields are altered as they pass through your brain and picked up by receivers, which when interpreted could be seen as telepathically reading your mind. ( https://patents.google.com/patent/US3951134 ) What almost never happens in UFO research is a comparison of those events with human secret tech. I blame ego for this (conspiracy is an option too), we assume we know all about what humans can do, therefore anything technologically mysterious is de facto non-human tech, which means ETs. Just like anything psychologically mysterious we used to blame on spirits. What we need to realise is we, the general population, are stupid and uninformed, a few humans are smart and are on the cutting edge and can fool us endlessly. A product of classified secrets. The only chance we have is to look back at old cases and compare to now de-classified technology. But we don't, we stay focused on the current cases, which use unknown classified tech. Aliens are also perfect cover for advanced aerospace craft, because the rational people will ignore the reports of alien craft.
UFOs are, in my view, flying laboratories which solve the problem of finding and disposing of victims. Don't take the victim to your secret lab, they might learn where it is located... take the lab to the victim. Most advanced tech events, if not all, are human secret tech. There is a long history of human secret tech, as shown above, which can not have come from space. See the airship mystery above, and yet we thought it might be Martians, we are just as stupid as them today, all we have done is extended the distance they are from.
What happens if you combine Nazi "anti-gravity", MKUltra and Hollywood costumes?
Somewhere between 0 and infinity. We can't say for sure what happened in pre-history but we can say that dreams and drugs and primitive psychological experiments are part of the options for "otherwordly" experiences.
Almost all cases when examined from say a 20 year distance can be explained with human technology advances unknown to the normal population at that time. Microwaves can beam voices into your head, magnetic fields are altered as they pass through your brain and picked up by receivers, which when interpreted could be seen as telepathically reading your mind. ( https://patents.google.com/patent/US3951134 ) What almost never happens in UFO research is a comparison of those events with human secret tech. I blame ego for this (conspiracy is an option too), we assume we know all about what humans can do, therefore anything technologically mysterious is de facto non-human tech, which means ETs. Just like anything psychologically mysterious we used to blame on spirits. What we need to realise is we, the general population, are stupid and uninformed, a few humans are smart and are on the cutting edge and can fool us endlessly. A product of classified secrets. The only chance we have is to look back at old cases and compare to now de-classified technology. But we don't, we stay focused on the current cases, which use unknown classified tech. Aliens are also perfect cover for advanced aerospace craft, because the rational people will ignore the reports of alien craft.
UFOs are, in my view, flying laboratories which solve the problem of finding and disposing of victims. Don't take the victim to your secret lab, they might learn where it is located... take the lab to the victim. Most advanced tech events, if not all, are human secret tech. There is a long history of human secret tech, as shown above, which can not have come from space. See the airship mystery above, and yet we thought it might be Martians, we are just as stupid as them today, all we have done is extended the distance they are from.
What happens if you combine Nazi "anti-gravity", MKUltra and Hollywood costumes?
1909 French Airship in England
>May 18. Daily Mail of May 20, 1909, .. Mr C. Lethbridge (Lithbridge in Charles Fort’s account) .. tube-shaped contraption on the grass, and two men working on something nearby. They wore ‘big, heavy fur coats, and fur caps fitted tightly over their heads’. .. jabbered furiously in a strange lingo.’ .. rose slowly into the air in a zigzag fashion. .. two wheels* at the bottom of the carriage, and a whirling fan at the tail. ..a quantity of a substance like papiermaché left behind. Also, there was a red label in French, attached to a chain and a small pin, which was described by an engineer as being like the instrument used to regulate the valve of a pump used for injecting air from the atmosphere into an airship.
– The Humanoids (1969) - 'Few and Far Between' chapter.
>“Daily Mail, May 20–that a man, named Lithbridge, of 4 Roland Street, Cardiff, Wales, had, in the office of the Cardiff Evening Express, told a marvelous story. This story was that, upon the 18th of May, about 11 P.M., while walking along a road, near the Caerphilly Mountains, Wales, he had seen, on the grass, at a side of the road, a large tube-shaped construction. In it were two men, in heavy fur-overcoats. When they saw Mr. Lithbridge, they spoke excitedly to each other, in a foreign language, and sailed away. Newspaper men visited the place, and found the grass trampled, and found a scattering of torn newspapers and other debris.
– LO! by Charles Fort (1931)
>“May 18th. Caerphilly, Wales. A Cardiff man named Lithbridge says he was walking through the mountains when he came across a large cylindrical construction parked beside a lonely road. Inside it he saw two peculiar looking men dressed in some kind of fur coats. On seeing him they gabbled excitedly in a foreign language. The next minute the machine rose in the air and flew away. It had no wings and made little noise. A depression was found in the grass at the place he indicated—the first report in this century of one of these things seen on the ground.
– FLYING SAUCERS HAVE LANDED by Leslie and Adamski (1957)
>“I saw a funny-looking object on the roadside, and two men who seemed to be at some kind of work close by. The object was long and like a big cigar. They were tall men, military-looking men, and were dressed in thick fur coats and caps. Of course, I didn’t know they were officers, but they were two men—that’s certain, and military men, too. I was about 20 or 30 yards away when I first saw the men. The noise of my truck—it rattles a lot—must have disturbed them for they commenced to speak very fast, some kind of lingo which I could not understand. They appeared to pick up something off the ground and jump into the object close by. Then it rose up like—like a switchback movement—and when it had got up a pretty good height, it went straight in the direction of Cardiff. I thought at first it was some big bird, but it must have been an airship. Well, after it had gone up a way, two lights began to shine from it. They looked like electric lights. It made an awful noise—a whirring noise—a noise like an engine working. Saw and heard it! I have no doubt about it. I was frightened, I can tell you, and after watching it go away towards Cardiff, 1 continued to walk home.” Lethbridge’s strange experience took place between 10:30 and 11 o’clock on Tuesday night, May 18th. Interestingly, it was confirmed by' the statements of residents in Salisbury Road, Cathays, Cardiff, who said that they also saw an object in the air that looked like an airship between 10:40 and 10:50 P.M. A search was made on Caerphilly Mountain at the location that Lethbridge indicated, and a red label printed in French was discovered, along with a piece of mutilated notepaper and several other slips of paper, but these only served to confuse the issue.
– World’s Best “True” UFO Stories by Jenny Randles (1994)
>“Most accounts leave out what the investigators found at the site: a variety of artifacts including parts of letters, a spare part for a tire valve, papier-mâché wads, blue paper containing figures and letters, and clippings about airships. All of this suggests, or at least seems intended to convey, the notion that the airship crew consisted of foreign spies. .. Coincidentally or otherwise, during a wave of UFO reports in France in the fall of 1954, a railroad worker at Monlucon claimed that one evening he encountered a tube-shaped craft. Outside it stood a man dressed in what looked like a long, hairy overcoat. When the witness addressed the figure, the latter responded in an unknown language. The witness left the scene to report it to his supervisor, but when the two returned, the UFO and the hairy-coated figure were gone.
– EXTRAORDINARY ENCOUNTERS by Jerome Clark (2000)
>“assorted junk was found at the site, including a metal machine part which was clearly stamped ”Made in France.”
- The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings by Keel (1970)
>‘a long-tube-shaped affair lying on the roadside’ .. (whom he assumed were German spies) .. ‘rose into the air in a zig-zag fashion’ .. At 1,000 miles each way, the round trip from the Zeppelin hangars at Friedrichshafen in Germany to the east coast of Britain would also have been impossible to complete under cover of darkness and would have taken the giant airship over parts of Belgium and France in daylight, where it would have been seen by thousands of people.
- The UFO Files by David Clarke (2013) ← Cardiff Evening Express and Evening Mail, 19 May 1909.
>“two “young men … officers” wearing fur coats.”
– Hidden Realms by Jerome Clark (2010)
What seems like a French military adventure becomes part of UFO mythology. How much history never made it into the official history books and so was left as myths and mysteries?
>May 18. Daily Mail of May 20, 1909, .. Mr C. Lethbridge (Lithbridge in Charles Fort’s account) .. tube-shaped contraption on the grass, and two men working on something nearby. They wore ‘big, heavy fur coats, and fur caps fitted tightly over their heads’. .. jabbered furiously in a strange lingo.’ .. rose slowly into the air in a zigzag fashion. .. two wheels* at the bottom of the carriage, and a whirling fan at the tail. ..a quantity of a substance like papiermaché left behind. Also, there was a red label in French, attached to a chain and a small pin, which was described by an engineer as being like the instrument used to regulate the valve of a pump used for injecting air from the atmosphere into an airship.
– The Humanoids (1969) - 'Few and Far Between' chapter.
>“Daily Mail, May 20–that a man, named Lithbridge, of 4 Roland Street, Cardiff, Wales, had, in the office of the Cardiff Evening Express, told a marvelous story. This story was that, upon the 18th of May, about 11 P.M., while walking along a road, near the Caerphilly Mountains, Wales, he had seen, on the grass, at a side of the road, a large tube-shaped construction. In it were two men, in heavy fur-overcoats. When they saw Mr. Lithbridge, they spoke excitedly to each other, in a foreign language, and sailed away. Newspaper men visited the place, and found the grass trampled, and found a scattering of torn newspapers and other debris.
– LO! by Charles Fort (1931)
>“May 18th. Caerphilly, Wales. A Cardiff man named Lithbridge says he was walking through the mountains when he came across a large cylindrical construction parked beside a lonely road. Inside it he saw two peculiar looking men dressed in some kind of fur coats. On seeing him they gabbled excitedly in a foreign language. The next minute the machine rose in the air and flew away. It had no wings and made little noise. A depression was found in the grass at the place he indicated—the first report in this century of one of these things seen on the ground.
– FLYING SAUCERS HAVE LANDED by Leslie and Adamski (1957)
>“I saw a funny-looking object on the roadside, and two men who seemed to be at some kind of work close by. The object was long and like a big cigar. They were tall men, military-looking men, and were dressed in thick fur coats and caps. Of course, I didn’t know they were officers, but they were two men—that’s certain, and military men, too. I was about 20 or 30 yards away when I first saw the men. The noise of my truck—it rattles a lot—must have disturbed them for they commenced to speak very fast, some kind of lingo which I could not understand. They appeared to pick up something off the ground and jump into the object close by. Then it rose up like—like a switchback movement—and when it had got up a pretty good height, it went straight in the direction of Cardiff. I thought at first it was some big bird, but it must have been an airship. Well, after it had gone up a way, two lights began to shine from it. They looked like electric lights. It made an awful noise—a whirring noise—a noise like an engine working. Saw and heard it! I have no doubt about it. I was frightened, I can tell you, and after watching it go away towards Cardiff, 1 continued to walk home.” Lethbridge’s strange experience took place between 10:30 and 11 o’clock on Tuesday night, May 18th. Interestingly, it was confirmed by' the statements of residents in Salisbury Road, Cathays, Cardiff, who said that they also saw an object in the air that looked like an airship between 10:40 and 10:50 P.M. A search was made on Caerphilly Mountain at the location that Lethbridge indicated, and a red label printed in French was discovered, along with a piece of mutilated notepaper and several other slips of paper, but these only served to confuse the issue.
– World’s Best “True” UFO Stories by Jenny Randles (1994)
>“Most accounts leave out what the investigators found at the site: a variety of artifacts including parts of letters, a spare part for a tire valve, papier-mâché wads, blue paper containing figures and letters, and clippings about airships. All of this suggests, or at least seems intended to convey, the notion that the airship crew consisted of foreign spies. .. Coincidentally or otherwise, during a wave of UFO reports in France in the fall of 1954, a railroad worker at Monlucon claimed that one evening he encountered a tube-shaped craft. Outside it stood a man dressed in what looked like a long, hairy overcoat. When the witness addressed the figure, the latter responded in an unknown language. The witness left the scene to report it to his supervisor, but when the two returned, the UFO and the hairy-coated figure were gone.
– EXTRAORDINARY ENCOUNTERS by Jerome Clark (2000)
>“assorted junk was found at the site, including a metal machine part which was clearly stamped ”Made in France.”
- The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings by Keel (1970)
>‘a long-tube-shaped affair lying on the roadside’ .. (whom he assumed were German spies) .. ‘rose into the air in a zig-zag fashion’ .. At 1,000 miles each way, the round trip from the Zeppelin hangars at Friedrichshafen in Germany to the east coast of Britain would also have been impossible to complete under cover of darkness and would have taken the giant airship over parts of Belgium and France in daylight, where it would have been seen by thousands of people.
- The UFO Files by David Clarke (2013) ← Cardiff Evening Express and Evening Mail, 19 May 1909.
>“two “young men … officers” wearing fur coats.”
– Hidden Realms by Jerome Clark (2010)
What seems like a French military adventure becomes part of UFO mythology. How much history never made it into the official history books and so was left as myths and mysteries?
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>>65813
i agree with you mostly but one case is unexplainable with the theory of advanced human tech.and thats the 1561 Nuremberg spaceship battle that happend over Germany.
i agree with you mostly but one case is unexplainable with the theory of advanced human tech.and thats the 1561 Nuremberg spaceship battle that happend over Germany.
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>>65815
Its a very interesting case.
Year 1561
>"In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun, above and below and on both sides, the color was blood, there stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferrous color. Likewise there stood on both sides and as a torus about the sun such blood-red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned' and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west. Whatever such signs mean, God alone knows. Although we have seen, shortly one after another, many kinds of signs on the heaven, which are sent to us by the almighty God, to bring us to repentance, we still are, unfortunately, so ungrateful that we despise such high signs and miracles of God. Or we speak of them with ridicule and discard them to the wind, in order that God may send us a frightening punishment on account of our ungratefulness. After all, the God-fearing will by no means discard these signs, but will take it to heart as a warning of their merciful Father in heaven, will mend their lives and faithfully beg God, that He may avert His wrath, including the well-deserved punishment, on us, so that we may temporarily here and perpetually there, live as his children. For it, may God grant us his help, Amen. By Hanns Glaser, letter-painter of Nurnberg."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg
and more:
Year 1861
>1831 Sighting Of 80-Minuie Meteor - The Corvallis Gazette-Times of Corvallis, Oregon contained a very interesting record of a sighting of a strange meteor sighted by the crew of a ship off Puget Sound. The article, by Kenneth Holmes, takes from “Lights and Shadows of Sailor Life,” published in Boston in 1848: “At ten minutes past B o'clock on the 31st, (May) a meteor of immense magnitude and brilliancy shot across the heavens in a northwest direction, illuminating the heavens to such an extent that there was a resemblance of a sheet of fire until it nearly reached the horizon, when it exploded, sending off myriads of corruscations in every direction. When it first commenced its flight, it was exceedingly slow in its descent, but as it increased its distance torwards the horizon it increased its velocity considerably, until it burst. Many old seamen on board never witnessed a meteor half so large, nor one whose light remained so long visible. From the time it was first seen until it disappeared, was one hour and twenty-five minuites.” Unquote. (This apparently encompasses time of sighting plus duration of observation of trail. -The Ed.)
– MUFON 1963 May
Comment: 80 minute sighting.
Year 1833
Upon the night of November 13-14. 1833, occurred the most sensational celestial spectacle of the nineteenth century: for six hours fiery meteors gushed from the heavens, and were visible along the whole Atlantic coast of the United States.
– New Lands by Fort (1923) → UFOCAT multiple entries. See also: The Astronomical Journal, 134:1037 Y 1045, 2007 September # 2007, 3D-BIELA and the Andromenids by P. Jenniskens and J. Vaubaillon (2007)
Comment: 6 hours of meteorites
Year 1779
>A member of the North Jersey Highland Historical Society recently came across an interesting meteor report published in The Journal of Thomas Hughes, the daily diary of a British officer who served with General Burgoyne during the Revolutionary War. On page 76 he stated: “November 21, 1779. A strange meteor was seen in the south, just as the sun went down. It appeared like a ball of fire and left a long trail of light—something like the turnings of a corkscrew—visible for near an hour.”
– Why UFOs by Keel (1970)
Comment: "ball" and "corkscrew".
Year 1723
>“glimmering light .. 45 degrees above the horizon, a light .. from the south above, .. three inches .. to the north .. spreading itself .. heard by a whizzing .. 45 degrees to the north above .. it stopped short, and ceased enlarging .. twenty inches .. figure of a trumpet-marine, .. very lively sparks, shining bright .. extinguished almost as fast .. with a great noise from the middle .. large end, a ball quite round, and all on fire: .. emitted about twenty minutes after, a hollow, but very loud noise for the space of a minute. .. The light began to be weakened to the south, after emitting the ball, and at length disappeared, before the noise of the ball was heard.”
– UFOCAT ← APRO Dec. 1978.
Comment: "ball"
1/
Its a very interesting case.
Year 1561
>"In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun, above and below and on both sides, the color was blood, there stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferrous color. Likewise there stood on both sides and as a torus about the sun such blood-red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned' and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west. Whatever such signs mean, God alone knows. Although we have seen, shortly one after another, many kinds of signs on the heaven, which are sent to us by the almighty God, to bring us to repentance, we still are, unfortunately, so ungrateful that we despise such high signs and miracles of God. Or we speak of them with ridicule and discard them to the wind, in order that God may send us a frightening punishment on account of our ungratefulness. After all, the God-fearing will by no means discard these signs, but will take it to heart as a warning of their merciful Father in heaven, will mend their lives and faithfully beg God, that He may avert His wrath, including the well-deserved punishment, on us, so that we may temporarily here and perpetually there, live as his children. For it, may God grant us his help, Amen. By Hanns Glaser, letter-painter of Nurnberg."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg
and more:
Year 1861
>1831 Sighting Of 80-Minuie Meteor - The Corvallis Gazette-Times of Corvallis, Oregon contained a very interesting record of a sighting of a strange meteor sighted by the crew of a ship off Puget Sound. The article, by Kenneth Holmes, takes from “Lights and Shadows of Sailor Life,” published in Boston in 1848: “At ten minutes past B o'clock on the 31st, (May) a meteor of immense magnitude and brilliancy shot across the heavens in a northwest direction, illuminating the heavens to such an extent that there was a resemblance of a sheet of fire until it nearly reached the horizon, when it exploded, sending off myriads of corruscations in every direction. When it first commenced its flight, it was exceedingly slow in its descent, but as it increased its distance torwards the horizon it increased its velocity considerably, until it burst. Many old seamen on board never witnessed a meteor half so large, nor one whose light remained so long visible. From the time it was first seen until it disappeared, was one hour and twenty-five minuites.” Unquote. (This apparently encompasses time of sighting plus duration of observation of trail. -The Ed.)
– MUFON 1963 May
Comment: 80 minute sighting.
Year 1833
Upon the night of November 13-14. 1833, occurred the most sensational celestial spectacle of the nineteenth century: for six hours fiery meteors gushed from the heavens, and were visible along the whole Atlantic coast of the United States.
– New Lands by Fort (1923) → UFOCAT multiple entries. See also: The Astronomical Journal, 134:1037 Y 1045, 2007 September # 2007, 3D-BIELA and the Andromenids by P. Jenniskens and J. Vaubaillon (2007)
Comment: 6 hours of meteorites
Year 1779
>A member of the North Jersey Highland Historical Society recently came across an interesting meteor report published in The Journal of Thomas Hughes, the daily diary of a British officer who served with General Burgoyne during the Revolutionary War. On page 76 he stated: “November 21, 1779. A strange meteor was seen in the south, just as the sun went down. It appeared like a ball of fire and left a long trail of light—something like the turnings of a corkscrew—visible for near an hour.”
– Why UFOs by Keel (1970)
Comment: "ball" and "corkscrew".
Year 1723
>“glimmering light .. 45 degrees above the horizon, a light .. from the south above, .. three inches .. to the north .. spreading itself .. heard by a whizzing .. 45 degrees to the north above .. it stopped short, and ceased enlarging .. twenty inches .. figure of a trumpet-marine, .. very lively sparks, shining bright .. extinguished almost as fast .. with a great noise from the middle .. large end, a ball quite round, and all on fire: .. emitted about twenty minutes after, a hollow, but very loud noise for the space of a minute. .. The light began to be weakened to the south, after emitting the ball, and at length disappeared, before the noise of the ball was heard.”
– UFOCAT ← APRO Dec. 1978.
Comment: "ball"
1/
>>65815
>>65817
Year 1716
>Mar 6. Astronomer Edmond Halley; UFO sighted for 2 hrs; 'bright enough to read' – UFOCAT, UFOIC Newsletter No 37 Sep-Oct 1972. See also the song “These Lights to me like great long spears did show, Sharp at one end, .. there was above a score. Then I saw like Blood it did appear, And that was very throng among those spears; .. The next I saw two Clouds meet fierce together .. And Darkened all these Spears excepting one, They gave a Clash and quickly they were gone.” about this event in UFOs and Popular Culture by James R. Lewis (2000) ← The Ballads and Songs of Derbyshire compiled by Llewellynn Jewitt (1867) ← The Garland of Merriment (1717). See also Wonders in the Sky Vallee (2009) for 1716 “Clouds fighting” in Baltic Sea.
Comment: "spears".
Year 1566
Pic #1
>It happened in 1566 three times, on 27 and 28 of July, and on August 7, against the sunrise and sunset; we saw strange shapes in the sky above Basel.
>During the year 1566, on the 27th of July, after the sun had shone warm on the clear, bright skies, and then around 9 pm, it suddenly took a different shape and color. First, the sun lost all its radiance and luster, and it was no bigger than the full moon, and finally it seemed to weep tears of blood and the air behind him went dark. And he was seen by all the people of the city and countryside. In much the same way also the moon, which has already been almost full and has shone through the night, assuming an almost blood-red color in the sky. The next day, Sunday, the sun rose at about six o'clock and slept with the same appearance it had when it was lying before. He lit the houses, streets and around as if everything was blood-red and fiery. At the dawn of August 7, we saw large black spheres coming and going with great speed and precipitation before the sun and chattered as if they led a fight. Many of them were fiery red and, soon crumbled and then extinguished.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1566_celestial_phenomenon_over_Basel
>"In the first hour of the night of November 4 there was seen in the sky over Uxbridge, England a pillar of fire the size of a small boat, pallid and livid in colour. It rose from the south, crossed the sky with slow and grave motions, and went north. Out of the front of the pillar, a fervent red flame burst forth with great beams of light. Its speed increased, and it flew through the air.”
– UFOs and Aliens Preston Dennett (2008)
Year 1032
Pic#2 & 3
Event from 1032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Chronicle
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Re 1561, my first question is, who drew the picture? A witness or a scribe using imagination? The time of day is interesting also. Dawn is when directly overhead is the path that the Earth is heading into. So dawn is when the Earth would overrun slower solar orbiting space rocks. These rocks could stay overhead for sometime as they move randomly in space, prior to falling into the Earth's gravity well.
Another thing I notice from these early reports is that they are always geometric shapes. Why? Is a limitation of wood carving? A limitation of available descriptive words? Or an assumption from the times that the Heavens are perfect and God only makes perfect things in His Heaven? Blaming God back then is exactly the same as blaming aliens today, it is a unfalsifiable answer that gives our ego comfort that we aren't uninformed.
There is an additional wrinkle here, there seems to have been manned flight as early as 840AD:
Year 840
>In A.D. 840, Agobard, Archbishop of Lyons [France], wrote of witnessing the execution of three men and one woman who had been captured when they left ‘‘ships that had come from the clouds.” The strangers had been apprehended as they were trading for food with local peasants Church officials kept the aliens in chains for three days before they allowed the populace to stone them as demons.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978)
1200s
>Cloena Borough .. at church hearing mass, an anchor was dropped from the sky as if thrown from a ship, for a rope was attached to it, and one of the flukes of the anchor became caught in the arch above the door. .. They saw a ship with men aboard floating before the anchor cable, and they saw a man leap overboard and dive down to the anchor as it to release it. When he came down to the anchor he tried to loosen it, but the people rushed up and seized him. The Bishop was present when this occurred and forbade his people to hold the man, for he said it might prove fatal as when one is held under water. As soon as the‘l man was released he hurried up to the ship; when he was up, the crew cut the rope and the ship sailed away out of sight.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978) ← Albert B. Holland appeared in the March 1958 issue of Fate ← King’s Mirror (old Norse, 13th Century).
Year 1207
>In Otto Imperiaiia, Book One, Chapter Eighteen,. Gervase of Tilbury writes of an aerial ship which caught its “anchor” in a pile of stones near the city of Bristol around A.D. 1207. When an occupant emerged from the ship to free it, he found himself immediately surrounded by curious citizens. Although the visitor accomplished his task, he seemed suddenly to become asphyxiated by the atmospherc and fell, dying and gasping, to the ground.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978)
Alien men and women with ropes and anchors?? Held hostage with no rescue from the mothership?
>>65817
Year 1716
>Mar 6. Astronomer Edmond Halley; UFO sighted for 2 hrs; 'bright enough to read' – UFOCAT, UFOIC Newsletter No 37 Sep-Oct 1972. See also the song “These Lights to me like great long spears did show, Sharp at one end, .. there was above a score. Then I saw like Blood it did appear, And that was very throng among those spears; .. The next I saw two Clouds meet fierce together .. And Darkened all these Spears excepting one, They gave a Clash and quickly they were gone.” about this event in UFOs and Popular Culture by James R. Lewis (2000) ← The Ballads and Songs of Derbyshire compiled by Llewellynn Jewitt (1867) ← The Garland of Merriment (1717). See also Wonders in the Sky Vallee (2009) for 1716 “Clouds fighting” in Baltic Sea.
Comment: "spears".
Year 1566
Pic #1
>It happened in 1566 three times, on 27 and 28 of July, and on August 7, against the sunrise and sunset; we saw strange shapes in the sky above Basel.
>During the year 1566, on the 27th of July, after the sun had shone warm on the clear, bright skies, and then around 9 pm, it suddenly took a different shape and color. First, the sun lost all its radiance and luster, and it was no bigger than the full moon, and finally it seemed to weep tears of blood and the air behind him went dark. And he was seen by all the people of the city and countryside. In much the same way also the moon, which has already been almost full and has shone through the night, assuming an almost blood-red color in the sky. The next day, Sunday, the sun rose at about six o'clock and slept with the same appearance it had when it was lying before. He lit the houses, streets and around as if everything was blood-red and fiery. At the dawn of August 7, we saw large black spheres coming and going with great speed and precipitation before the sun and chattered as if they led a fight. Many of them were fiery red and, soon crumbled and then extinguished.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1566_celestial_phenomenon_over_Basel
>"In the first hour of the night of November 4 there was seen in the sky over Uxbridge, England a pillar of fire the size of a small boat, pallid and livid in colour. It rose from the south, crossed the sky with slow and grave motions, and went north. Out of the front of the pillar, a fervent red flame burst forth with great beams of light. Its speed increased, and it flew through the air.”
– UFOs and Aliens Preston Dennett (2008)
Year 1032
Pic#2 & 3
Event from 1032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Chronicle
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Re 1561, my first question is, who drew the picture? A witness or a scribe using imagination? The time of day is interesting also. Dawn is when directly overhead is the path that the Earth is heading into. So dawn is when the Earth would overrun slower solar orbiting space rocks. These rocks could stay overhead for sometime as they move randomly in space, prior to falling into the Earth's gravity well.
Another thing I notice from these early reports is that they are always geometric shapes. Why? Is a limitation of wood carving? A limitation of available descriptive words? Or an assumption from the times that the Heavens are perfect and God only makes perfect things in His Heaven? Blaming God back then is exactly the same as blaming aliens today, it is a unfalsifiable answer that gives our ego comfort that we aren't uninformed.
There is an additional wrinkle here, there seems to have been manned flight as early as 840AD:
Year 840
>In A.D. 840, Agobard, Archbishop of Lyons [France], wrote of witnessing the execution of three men and one woman who had been captured when they left ‘‘ships that had come from the clouds.” The strangers had been apprehended as they were trading for food with local peasants Church officials kept the aliens in chains for three days before they allowed the populace to stone them as demons.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978)
1200s
>Cloena Borough .. at church hearing mass, an anchor was dropped from the sky as if thrown from a ship, for a rope was attached to it, and one of the flukes of the anchor became caught in the arch above the door. .. They saw a ship with men aboard floating before the anchor cable, and they saw a man leap overboard and dive down to the anchor as it to release it. When he came down to the anchor he tried to loosen it, but the people rushed up and seized him. The Bishop was present when this occurred and forbade his people to hold the man, for he said it might prove fatal as when one is held under water. As soon as the‘l man was released he hurried up to the ship; when he was up, the crew cut the rope and the ship sailed away out of sight.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978) ← Albert B. Holland appeared in the March 1958 issue of Fate ← King’s Mirror (old Norse, 13th Century).
Year 1207
>In Otto Imperiaiia, Book One, Chapter Eighteen,. Gervase of Tilbury writes of an aerial ship which caught its “anchor” in a pile of stones near the city of Bristol around A.D. 1207. When an occupant emerged from the ship to free it, he found himself immediately surrounded by curious citizens. Although the visitor accomplished his task, he seemed suddenly to become asphyxiated by the atmospherc and fell, dying and gasping, to the ground.
– Metting Aliens by Brad Steiger (1978)
Alien men and women with ropes and anchors?? Held hostage with no rescue from the mothership?
To be fair, here is a case for something odd going on sometimes:
>Dr. Dees close encounter in 1586 “… little man with averted face, whose feet “seemed not to touch the ground”, who moved in “a little fiery cloud”, doors opening of themselves before him, and who mounted up into the sky in “a great piller of fire”
– Crux, Issue 1 (Summer 1985), pg 17 ← “A True and Faithful Relation of what passed for many Years Between Dr. John Dee and Some Spirits” by Meric Casaubon (1659)
More on Dee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee
Spirits or ETs? If you answer a mystery with a mystery have you solved it?
>Dr. Dees close encounter in 1586 “… little man with averted face, whose feet “seemed not to touch the ground”, who moved in “a little fiery cloud”, doors opening of themselves before him, and who mounted up into the sky in “a great piller of fire”
– Crux, Issue 1 (Summer 1985), pg 17 ← “A True and Faithful Relation of what passed for many Years Between Dr. John Dee and Some Spirits” by Meric Casaubon (1659)
More on Dee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee
Spirits or ETs? If you answer a mystery with a mystery have you solved it?
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>>65821
>Sounds like an ayy lmao to me.
No report of a UFO or mechanical device though. Spirit actually fits better.
>Sounds like an ayy lmao to me.
No report of a UFO or mechanical device though. Spirit actually fits better.
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>They had all previously completely missed the boat in their attempts to interpret Tesla's technology - according to the false Relativist physics - mainly because of the snotty report by their "expert", John G. Trump. Even the FBI has failed to grasp the significance of the note concerning Ms. Marguerite Merrington's witnessing of Tesla's 1894 "metallic plate suspension", and to black it out, in the Tesla papers released under the F.O.I.A. It wasn't until von Braun and company disclosed that their flying saucer technology was based on Tesla's 1890s discoveries, that our government knew what they had, and what the Nazis had already acquired in the 1930's from Tesla's files. Quite a lot of Tesla's technology had already leaked through several sources before the FBI's scanty look into it in 1943, fully seven years after von Braun's "p2" project at Los Alamos.
- Pentagon Aliens by William Lyne (1993)
Contrast with the attached pic suggesting Trump hid it on purpose.
Contrast the timing with the emergence of strange vehicles in the sky.
Is this just a cyclic reference referring only to itself?
Did Tesla start "anti-gravity"?
- Pentagon Aliens by William Lyne (1993)
Contrast with the attached pic suggesting Trump hid it on purpose.
Contrast the timing with the emergence of strange vehicles in the sky.
Is this just a cyclic reference referring only to itself?
Did Tesla start "anti-gravity"?
>>65825
>The phantom balloon scare of 1892
>Perhaps the first mass outbreak of mystery aircraft sightings took place in 1892 in Russian-occupied Poland, near the German border. The Manchester Guardian reported on 26 March that a 'large balloon coming from the German frontier appeared about the fortress of Kovno
– The Scareship Age, 1892-1946: Collected Blog Posts from Airminded by Brett Holman (2013)
https://airminded.org/downloads/download-info/the-scareship-age-1892-1946-pdf/
> 1893 Central New South Wales, Australia
>An anecdote handed down within a farming family told of an extraordinary UFO story that was alleged to have happened in 1893 in Central New South Wales. A farmer claimed that a saucer-shaped object landed in a paddock on his property. As he approached the object, a man in strange clothing emerged from it. The farmer walked towards the being. The stranger shone some kind of beam at him, whereby the farmer was thrown to the ground, stunned. His hand where the beam had hit him was paralysed for life.
http://www.project1947.com/kbcat/kbmoreintoz.htm
Regarding the beam:
This might be an electric cattle prod also note that in 1887 Gassner (French) portable dry batteries exist: “By 1889 there were at least six well-known dry batteries in circulation. Later battery manufacturing produced smaller, lighter batteries, and the application of the tungsten filament in 1909 created the impetus to develop batteries for use in torches.”
http://www.batteryfacts.co.uk/BatteryHistory/Gassner.html
Or something like 1888 Microwave technology:
>Hertz had demonstrated generation of electromagnetic waves, and that their properties were similar to those of light[1]. Before the start of the twentieth century, many of the concepts now familiar in microwaves had been developed [2,3]: the list includes the cylindrical parabolic reflector, dielectric lens, microwave absorbers, the cavity radiator, the radiating iris and the pyramidal electromagnetic horn. Round, square and rectangular waveguides were used, with experimental development anticipating by several years Rayleigh's 1896 theoretical solution [4] for waveguide modes. Many microwave components in use were quasi-optical - a term first introduced by Oliver Lodge [5]. Righi in 1897 published a treatise on microwave optics [6]. References: [1] H. Hertz, Electric Waves. London: Macmillan and Co. Ltd., 1893. (Reprinted by Dover.) [2] John F. Ramsay, “Microwave Antenna and Waveguide Techniques before 1900,” Proc. IRE., Vol.46, No.2, pp. 405-415, February 1958. [3] K.L. Smith, “Victorian Microwaves,” Wireless World, pp. 93-95, September 1979. [4] Lord Rayleigh, “On the passage of electric waves through tubes, or the vibrations of dielectric cylinders,” Phil. Mag., vol.43, pp.125-132, February 1897. [5] Oliver Lodge, Signalling Across Space Without Wires. Fleet Street, London, U.K.: “The Electrician” Printing & Publishing Company, 1908, 4th Ed., p. 83. (First edition published in 1894 under the title, The Work of Hertz and His Successors.) [6] A. Righi, L'Ottica delle Oscillazioni Elettriche. Bologna, Italy: N. Zanichelli, 1897.
– THE WORK OF JAGADIS CHANDRA BOSE: 100 YEARS OF MM-WAVE RESEARCH by D.T. Emerson (1998).
>The phantom balloon scare of 1892
>Perhaps the first mass outbreak of mystery aircraft sightings took place in 1892 in Russian-occupied Poland, near the German border. The Manchester Guardian reported on 26 March that a 'large balloon coming from the German frontier appeared about the fortress of Kovno
– The Scareship Age, 1892-1946: Collected Blog Posts from Airminded by Brett Holman (2013)
https://airminded.org/downloads/download-info/the-scareship-age-1892-1946-pdf/
> 1893 Central New South Wales, Australia
>An anecdote handed down within a farming family told of an extraordinary UFO story that was alleged to have happened in 1893 in Central New South Wales. A farmer claimed that a saucer-shaped object landed in a paddock on his property. As he approached the object, a man in strange clothing emerged from it. The farmer walked towards the being. The stranger shone some kind of beam at him, whereby the farmer was thrown to the ground, stunned. His hand where the beam had hit him was paralysed for life.
http://www.project1947.com/kbcat/kbmoreintoz.htm
Regarding the beam:
This might be an electric cattle prod also note that in 1887 Gassner (French) portable dry batteries exist: “By 1889 there were at least six well-known dry batteries in circulation. Later battery manufacturing produced smaller, lighter batteries, and the application of the tungsten filament in 1909 created the impetus to develop batteries for use in torches.”
http://www.batteryfacts.co.uk/BatteryHistory/Gassner.html
Or something like 1888 Microwave technology:
>Hertz had demonstrated generation of electromagnetic waves, and that their properties were similar to those of light[1]. Before the start of the twentieth century, many of the concepts now familiar in microwaves had been developed [2,3]: the list includes the cylindrical parabolic reflector, dielectric lens, microwave absorbers, the cavity radiator, the radiating iris and the pyramidal electromagnetic horn. Round, square and rectangular waveguides were used, with experimental development anticipating by several years Rayleigh's 1896 theoretical solution [4] for waveguide modes. Many microwave components in use were quasi-optical - a term first introduced by Oliver Lodge [5]. Righi in 1897 published a treatise on microwave optics [6]. References: [1] H. Hertz, Electric Waves. London: Macmillan and Co. Ltd., 1893. (Reprinted by Dover.) [2] John F. Ramsay, “Microwave Antenna and Waveguide Techniques before 1900,” Proc. IRE., Vol.46, No.2, pp. 405-415, February 1958. [3] K.L. Smith, “Victorian Microwaves,” Wireless World, pp. 93-95, September 1979. [4] Lord Rayleigh, “On the passage of electric waves through tubes, or the vibrations of dielectric cylinders,” Phil. Mag., vol.43, pp.125-132, February 1897. [5] Oliver Lodge, Signalling Across Space Without Wires. Fleet Street, London, U.K.: “The Electrician” Printing & Publishing Company, 1908, 4th Ed., p. 83. (First edition published in 1894 under the title, The Work of Hertz and His Successors.) [6] A. Righi, L'Ottica delle Oscillazioni Elettriche. Bologna, Italy: N. Zanichelli, 1897.
– THE WORK OF JAGADIS CHANDRA BOSE: 100 YEARS OF MM-WAVE RESEARCH by D.T. Emerson (1998).
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>>65825
https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2001%20of%2003/view
Page 186.
Pic related. Dead end?
https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2001%20of%2003/view
Page 186.
Pic related. Dead end?
>>65825
Could Tesla have been thinking about electricity and gravity in 1894?
>A GRAVITATIONAL AND ELECTROMAGNETIC ANALOGY. (1893)
http://sergf.ru/Heavisid.htm
this eventually leads to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism
Could Tesla have been thinking about electricity and gravity in 1894?
>A GRAVITATIONAL AND ELECTROMAGNETIC ANALOGY. (1893)
http://sergf.ru/Heavisid.htm
this eventually leads to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism
>>65825
TESLA'S NEW MONARCH OF MACHINES
by Nikola Tesla
New York Herald, Oct. 15, 1911
...
"Not the aeroplane, the flying machine," responded Dr. Tesla. "Now you have struck the point in which I am most deeply interested--the object toward which I have been devoting my energies for more than twenty years--the dream of my life. It was in seeking the means of making the perfect flying machine that I developed this engine.
"Twenty years ago I believed that I would be the first man to fly; that I was on the track of accomplishing what no one else was anywhere near reaching. I was working entirely in electricity then and did not realize that the gasoline engine was approaching a perfection that was going to make the aeroplane feasible. There is nothing new about the aeroplane but its engine, you know.
"What I was working on twenty years ago was the wireless transmission of electric power. My idea was a flying machine propelled by an electric motor, with power supplied from stations on the earth. I have not accomplished this as yet, but am confident that I will in time.
"When I found that I had been anticipated as to the flying machine, by men working in a different field, I began to study the problem from other angles, to regard it as a mechanical rather than an electrical problem. I felt certain there must be some means of obtaining power that was better than any now in use. And by vigorous use of my gray matter for a number of years, I grasped the possibilities of the principle of the viscosity and adhesion of fluids and conceived the mechanism of my engine. Now that I have it, my next step will be the perfect flying machine."
"An aeroplane driven by your engine?" I asked.
"Not at all," said Dr. Tesla. "The aeroplane is fatally defective. It is merely a toy--a sporting play-thing. It can never become commercially practical. It has fatal defects. One is the fact that when it encounters a downward current of air it is helpless. The "hole in the air" of which aviators speak is simply a downward current, and unless the aeroplane is high enough above the earth to move laterally but can do nothing but fall.
"There is no way of detecting these downward currents, no way of avoiding them, and therefore the aeroplane must always be subject to chance and its operator to the risk of fatal accident. Sportsmen will always take these chances, but as a business proposition the risk is too great.
"The flying machine of the future--my flying machine--will be heavier than air, but it will not be an aeroplane. It will have no wings. It will be substantial, solid, stable. You cannot have a stable airplane. The gyroscope can never be successfully applied to the airplane, for it would give a stability that would result in the machine being torn to pieces by the wind, just as the unprotected aeroplane on the ground is torn to pieces by a high wind.
"My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of "holes in the air" or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action."
"You will get stability through gyroscopes?" I asked.
"Through gyroscopic action of my engine, assisted by some devices I am not yet prepared to talk about," he replied.
"Powerful air currents that may be deflected at will, if produced by engines and compressors sufficiently light and powerful, might lift a heavy body off the ground and propel it through the air," I ventured, wondering if I had grasped the inventor's secret.
Dr. Tesla smiled an inscrutable smile.
"All I have to say on that point is that my airship will have neither gas bag, wings nor propellers," he said. "It is the child of my dreams, the product of years of intense and painful toil and research. I am not going to talk about it any further. But whatever my airship may be, here at least is an engine that will do things that no other engine ever has done, and that is something tangible."
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1911-10-15.htm
Hmmmm...
TESLA'S NEW MONARCH OF MACHINES
by Nikola Tesla
New York Herald, Oct. 15, 1911
...
"Not the aeroplane, the flying machine," responded Dr. Tesla. "Now you have struck the point in which I am most deeply interested--the object toward which I have been devoting my energies for more than twenty years--the dream of my life. It was in seeking the means of making the perfect flying machine that I developed this engine.
"Twenty years ago I believed that I would be the first man to fly; that I was on the track of accomplishing what no one else was anywhere near reaching. I was working entirely in electricity then and did not realize that the gasoline engine was approaching a perfection that was going to make the aeroplane feasible. There is nothing new about the aeroplane but its engine, you know.
"What I was working on twenty years ago was the wireless transmission of electric power. My idea was a flying machine propelled by an electric motor, with power supplied from stations on the earth. I have not accomplished this as yet, but am confident that I will in time.
"When I found that I had been anticipated as to the flying machine, by men working in a different field, I began to study the problem from other angles, to regard it as a mechanical rather than an electrical problem. I felt certain there must be some means of obtaining power that was better than any now in use. And by vigorous use of my gray matter for a number of years, I grasped the possibilities of the principle of the viscosity and adhesion of fluids and conceived the mechanism of my engine. Now that I have it, my next step will be the perfect flying machine."
"An aeroplane driven by your engine?" I asked.
"Not at all," said Dr. Tesla. "The aeroplane is fatally defective. It is merely a toy--a sporting play-thing. It can never become commercially practical. It has fatal defects. One is the fact that when it encounters a downward current of air it is helpless. The "hole in the air" of which aviators speak is simply a downward current, and unless the aeroplane is high enough above the earth to move laterally but can do nothing but fall.
"There is no way of detecting these downward currents, no way of avoiding them, and therefore the aeroplane must always be subject to chance and its operator to the risk of fatal accident. Sportsmen will always take these chances, but as a business proposition the risk is too great.
"The flying machine of the future--my flying machine--will be heavier than air, but it will not be an aeroplane. It will have no wings. It will be substantial, solid, stable. You cannot have a stable airplane. The gyroscope can never be successfully applied to the airplane, for it would give a stability that would result in the machine being torn to pieces by the wind, just as the unprotected aeroplane on the ground is torn to pieces by a high wind.
"My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of "holes in the air" or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action."
"You will get stability through gyroscopes?" I asked.
"Through gyroscopic action of my engine, assisted by some devices I am not yet prepared to talk about," he replied.
"Powerful air currents that may be deflected at will, if produced by engines and compressors sufficiently light and powerful, might lift a heavy body off the ground and propel it through the air," I ventured, wondering if I had grasped the inventor's secret.
Dr. Tesla smiled an inscrutable smile.
"All I have to say on that point is that my airship will have neither gas bag, wings nor propellers," he said. "It is the child of my dreams, the product of years of intense and painful toil and research. I am not going to talk about it any further. But whatever my airship may be, here at least is an engine that will do things that no other engine ever has done, and that is something tangible."
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1911-10-15.htm
Hmmmm...
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