/sp/ - Football

I hope he keeps going to cons, being a retard people can easily recognize by how fucking ugly and stupid you are and then going to cons in the fandom you tried to usurp control of is genius. It's why they wanted to own all of the con leadership because their original plan was 100% to spin this into them being installed as foalcon jannies in every convention sweeping it up and probably getting paid somehow as well or grifting off of it. Jacob is fairly retarded, even for a nigger like he literally is, and it's even better since they got doxxed by their own bullshit but the people that they pissed off are largely not doxxed nor known to them. I'm not implying anything should be done to this ugly retarded nigger, because his whole effort already collapsed on itself due to incompetence in leadership (since he is a nigger), but people definitely will not largely be supportive of his stupid fucking face if they see it I would imagine. Not even if they like niggers, or tranny-nigger-anglo abominations like he can appear to be at first glance until you realize that's still just a nigger anyway.

It's a shame he never got to fav porn on https://inkbunny.net/jascotty2
It would have been hilarious if it was confirmed he was into lolis too.

>>24560
>MarsMiner pfp
>11 year account, predating BronyTales
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Summaryanon here.
I've got little time rn, so I'll keep things brief, won't update the paste for now.
-mistercokehold8, an associate of DataBytes and Daring since BronyTales who got on The List, is holding (or at least plans to) a QnA on the topic of this happening. Links:
>https://derpibooru.org/forums/dis/topics/fimfetch-owner-outed-to-be-a-lolcow-private-mlp-community-leaders-server-logs-leaked?post_id=5610385#post_5610385
>https://ponybooru.org/forums/dis/topics/the-fimfetch-foalcon-advisory-list?post_id=98846#post_98846
-New story got posted on FimFiction on the subject of The List. Haven't read it yet, but it's made by a lister. Link:
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/557001/ive-got-a-little-list

>>24620
He should hold it here because Derpi is rulecucked and will sweep it up for DataByte even though they are on opposite sides, as they are all Reddit brained cucks.

>>24638
out fucking skilled

>>24638
Looks like it's just that one of his, https://www.patreon.com/BronyTales is still up. Almost certainly either caused by the list or caused by someone pointing out various foalcon/rape/incest fics to Patreon spitefully, rather than something Patreon has against him specifically.

Summaryanon here.
Sorry for still not updating the paste. It's been a rather busy week, but, hopefully, I'll have more time in the near-future.
So, here are some things that happened (not in chronological order):
-The fifth false claim about abuse has reached /mlpol/ >>24552.
-FimFetch's patreon becomes under inspection. Whether this will lead to it taken down or not remains to be seen. If it does, it unfortunately probably won't do much damage to FimFetch, as he'd either migrate to another site or maybe even pay out of his own pocket.
-Yet another story based on The List! https://www.fimfiction.net/story/557001/ive-got-a-little-list
-A concerning thing is posted on FimFiction by the writer Bad Dragon:
>[...] Apparently, there's another List out there since I'm not on the first one, yet have just been denied up to $150 simply for being who I am.
>Here's the short summary of events:
>I've entered a writing competition with my story: [link to story]
>The story followed all the rules of the contest, yet it has been disqualified simply because it was written by me. To be more precise, because I've published foalcon in the past.
Full statement: https://www.fimfiction.net/group/12/clopfics/thread/536499/fimfetch-owner-declares-jihad-on-foalcon-doxes-hundreds-of-users#comment/7968323
My personal thoughts: I think that there does not exist a second list. Instead, either of these things happened:
1. The contest runner did a background check of some kind on all the participants, found this writer in the DataBytes thread, read his thoughts, disqualified him;
2. Technically speaking, The List still exists and is probably still updated; it's just behind a password. So, who's to say that DataBytes didn't simply give the password to the updated list to the contest runner for them to verify the "innocence" of all contestents?
-The QnA with mistercokehold8 doesn't really happen (except for a few semi-early posts on FimFiction about what BronyTales is or whether that infamous >hypocrite.png image is real) because no one had any questions for him. However, there's no formal statement, so you're still free to ask him anything you want! (as long as it's related to the subject at hand, ofc)
-Y'know that paedophilia thread? It uh... well, I first thought that it had actually left behind the constant off-topicing, but uh... no. It started out with some things on the Russo-Ukrainian war (or, well, Russia in general), but that didn't last for long. But what did, though? Some random anon posted about how this whole thing made him, for a lack of a better word, "depaedophilify". Now, that thread has gone full off-topic and is now a fight between the "christkikes" and the "however-the-fuck-the-other-side-gets-called-by-their-opponents". It's an... interesting read, that's for sure.
-At this point, I think it's safe to say that KiwiFarms doesn't care much about this happening anymore (not like they did in the beginning either). They're back to discussing other shit, like the Flufflepuff drama (that's still ongoing?) or some random patreon creator.

Maybe some other things happened too. If so, I missed 'em.

>>24706
>interesting read
NP Anon I try.
You're doing a good job.

>>24706
>Some random anon posted about how this whole thing made him, for a lack of a better word, "depaedophilify". Now, that thread has gone full off-topic and is now a fight between the "christkikes" and the "however-the-fuck-the-other-side-gets-called-by-their-opponents". It's an... interesting read, that's for sure.
I'm the anon from that thread who went to a psychiatrist last week and I seriously have no idea what's going on there anymore, been thinking I should get my head checked for a while and it's now in progress. I have to say seeing myself on a pedo list didn't help and I really needed that. (Turns out I'm not one, thank god.) But the posts about the guy seething because I'm doing therapy, bumping it again, saying I'm going to be more in trouble all that are plain fucking weird. I'm not even sure the guy's been around here and tries just to make up buzzword to blend into MLPOL. I'm not gonna add a layer of paranoia but I have a feeling they're on this board trying to troll as hard as they can, not like it's going to help them.
But the whitchhunt is real, however raising a list accusing members is severe and dehumanizing. I'm tough but I'm thinking of a LOT about the consequences it can have. Like Anon said on the other thread, Databyte fits totally the sociopath category, manipulative, using gasligthing techniques, not thinking of the consequences.
Thanks again Summaryanon and everyone. You guys are doing Celestia's work!

>>24720
To save some time for others, as a rule, if you have to go to a therapist to determine whether you're a pedo, you aren't, no matter what twitterites like Databyte say.
Types like that say that stuff BECAUSE they lack a basic understanding of actual psychology.
People with actual education know damn well that people are generally weirdasses capable of separating reality from fiction, and that the real dangers are people like Databyte and all the twitter "antis" who start talking about doing real harm to real people over fictional harm to fictional people, not the people doing fictional harm to fictional people.

>>24715
lmao you should try harder, retard

>>24722
dubs of >>24720 is a faggot cuck writing posts I will not read

Summaryanon here.
https://ponepaste.org/9926
Paste is finally updated! Besides being made up to date, it's main improvement is the addition of precise dates (whenever possible) to the events. Also a QnA section.
As always, suggestions and corrections (both factual and grammatical) are always welcome.
For now, I have two questions, if anyone can answer:
1. What time zone does KiwiFarms use?
2. Is it possible to see when precisely a user was banned on FimFiction?

>>24732
please can you tell me the name of the server princewhateverer runs. i wanna know

>>24732
>[As late as Jan 22 of 2024, probably earlier] Crackdowns on foalcon and rape stories begin on FimFetch, and only escalate further as time goes on.
The earliest report of stories being removed from FiMfetch I could find across multiple sites is this one from WyrmSpawN on Derpibooru, dated January 7: https://derpibooru.org/forums/art/topics/artists-you-miss?post_id=5567358#post_5567358
At the time, everyone assumed that it was just because of Patreon, which had already banned Fimfiction over story content.

Any earlier reports I could find were several years old and usually refer to stories being missing/outdated due to FiMFetch not scraping them properly in the first place, which is beyond the scope of this drama. (though it does further justify FoalFetch's existence, as most of those stories are now properly archived on it)

I also found a /mlp/ post dated December 24 which references one of the deleted stories: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/40657675/#q40668858
The post & replies would indicate that it was still available on FiMFetch at the time (the "deleted" in the post refers to it being removed from Fimfiction, not Fimfetch)
Note that it was a BLATANT foalcon story, so it would most certainly have been part of the first round of content purges.

There is also another /mlp/ post dated December 16 which clearly references a now deleted story: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/40623136/#q40643648
(although this time it was for incest, which wasn't the first kind of content targeted)

This would place the big content purge sometime between December 24 and January 7.

>Is it possible to see when precisely a user was banned on FimFiction?
HK-FortySeven appears to have used the "last seen" date on DataByteBrony's Fimfiction profile, which does say "April 14th". You can actually get a full date & time by hovering on it.
Fimfiction doesn't give much information about bans. In fact, the mobile version of the profile page doesn't even show that a user is banned unless you check out their username from a different page.
Under other circumstances, the "last seen" date would be a poor indicator for when someone got banned. But here, that happened while the the drama was still very active, so there is a good enough chance that DataByte was regularly checking Fimfiction to see what others were saying in the Clopfics forum thread, right up until he got the ban. If that was the case, his "last seen" date & time would be just a few hours away from his actual ban date & time.

>>24734
It's hard to rely on obviousness to say a fic wouldn't be missed, as early in to noticing stuff about missing fics (around March 29th), I searched "foalcon" on FiMfetch and got the one Iron Will story I think titled something like "Iron Will's Foalcon Necrophilia Sex Rampage".
Whatever criteria Databyte was using was probably initially based on what Patreon told him, and reports from others, not searching his own site.
That is to say that it's possible the purge happened well before December 24th, we'd need clear evidence of a particular story disappearing somewhere before January 7th to place the start.

>>24734
you can still read the threads on fimfiction through
incognito mode and as for the likes of tour i have no idea.
basically his account being banned doesn't mean he wasn't paying attention elsewhere.

>>24732
>>24732
He was banned between April 4th and April 16th. I'd assume they banned their account when he got banned from the Discord server, which was on the 15th.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240404175115/https://www.fimfiction.net/user/62188/DataByteBrony
https://web.archive.org/web/20240416195222/https://www.fimfiction.net/user/62188/DataByteBrony

>>24733
It's his own personal server, can find it on his socials

>>24738
thanks the das list worded so ominously.
if you were wondering.

i can confirm that Allyster Black is indeed in jail.

the fimfetch patreon i back up and running

Summaryanon here.
>>24750
Wanted to post that :(
On a brighter note, when comparing to his previous patreon income, he makes ~2 dollars less! WOW!
https://iwiftp.yerf.org/Pony/Miscellaneous/Fan-made/FimFetch%20meltdown/Screenshot%202024-04-02%20at%2002-13-50%20Get%20more%20from%20FimFetch.net%20Fiction%20Archive%20on%20Patreon.png

>>24751
Wait, should've posted a pic too

>>24752
>59.3 euro a month
why anyone cared about this in the first place tbh

Summaryanon here.
So, I've been rather lazy with updating the paste recently (especially since everything's developing rather slowly now).
However, that's not the point. The point is: around yesterday, this lack of updating caused a brief misunderstanding on FimFiction. Sorry 'bout that.
In other news: DataBytes now makes 26.65€ per month, or a decrease of a whopping 32.65€ (about ~55%) from before.

Made a lil' meme. Had a bit of a problem properly screenshotting it though, so it's a bit cut off at the right edge.

Still going BTW

>>24794
Can I has an invite to the anti-PCL discord? [darkdoomer] haven't had time to pay much attention to it lately, sorry bout this.

>>24794
since my banning from G5, EQD and Manechat, i've seen my interest in MLP take a nosedive

>>24834
Love mares for the sake of mares, you don't need anyone else

>>24794
The pedo thread got quickly taken over, supposed to be a literal exposing, counter thread as if the PCL had anything to post, turns out it has clarified more than an attempt at harming the discord users.

‘‘Yes /mlpol/ will be offended and will not take time to check anything, they won''tt read the logs or the cherrypicked screencaps’’

Summaryanon here.
https://ponepaste.org/9926
https://ponepaste.org/10241
So, the last reply left here was on June 14th, huh? Quite some time has passed (nearly two months), with basically nothing major happening at all. I am reminded of the few initial concerns (ones which followed us throughout the entirety of this drama, in fact) that DataBytes, the PCL, and the rest of the clique will simply... stop. In order for conflict to continue, there has to be "fuel". In the beginning, we had plenty of it: nearly each day, some new, intriguing information would come out, responses and counter-responses would be made, even the occasional art or fic would be posted. Alas, for quite some time now, all that we've been left with is merely watching FimFetch's Patreon slowly recover. At the very best, we get to see some shenanigans from those anti-paedophile-thread anons or an off-hand mention lamenting the state of things. Many have let go, went off to other ventures, and just... forgot about it all.

This... "forgetting". As I wrote up not only this post, but also the pastes, I realised just how much 2 months is in internet discourse. And it's not just forgetting: it's also making things up out of nowhere, these "false", or perhaps "corrupted" memories. For example: I remember there being a semi-concrete number of members that were necessary in order for one to join the PCL. I did not find it. Those initial concerns I mentioned? Could not precisely find them, but I'm confident they exist. I remember the report channel being archived: alas, I could only find the scam report and report discussion ones. I've forgotten the time zones used across various sites. At this point, I'm not sure if I can say with confidence which of the posts here or on 4chan were mine (I didn't sign all of them, after all, kek), and which were by other people.

Regardless, this will not be over for as long as we do not let it be over. The archives that we have still are likely to contain incriminating information, and it's only a matter of time before someone looks into them. The silence on the PCL's behalf, and that on DataBytes clique's, won't last forever. Eventually, someone will speak up. If not them, then a wistleblower or some other associate.

Anyway, sorry for the Reddit spacing (I think it makes my ramblings just a bit more readable) and if that was too melodramatic. Though sparse, some things did happen over the span of this thread's inactivity. I'll just quote from the new summary paste:
>[06/11/24(Tue)21:29:11 UTC] A new thread gets posted on /mlpol/ about a certain incident on /mlp/ involving a deceased minor, which is outside the scope of this summary. The /mlpol/ thread has the same writing style and tone as the paedophilia thread, which, alongside the subject matter, shows a highly probable connection between the two. Though it didn't devolve into utter chaos, it still failed to produce any particularly important results on either side of the conflict, and ultimately went nowhere, despite a (relatively) decent-enough start. The last post on it was made on 06/14/24(Fri)14:57:21 UTC, making it last for just three days.
>[07/02/24(Tue)21:32:12 UTC] After a long time of non-existing, despite various notable occurrences happening (e.g. NHNB going down, new Derpibooru policy, the Ponybooru fiasco...), the Fan Site Alternative Thread goes back up. Updates on Foalfetch development are easily accessable once more!
>[07/30/24(Tue)23:04:26 UTC] A new paste is published here by yours truly on rebutting the claims made in the Foalcon Advisory's current text, i.e. the "Public Notice".

There was also an update to the paste that I did not inform this thread of, but you can find the changes made then on the Fan Site Alternative Thread.
/mlpol/ thread in question: https://mlpol.net/sp/24805
New Fan Site Alternative Thread: https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/thread/41203976
New paste/rebuttal: https://ponepaste.org/10241 (also linked in the beginning of this post)

In other news: I finally discovered/understood what the "pastedown" option in Ponepaste is and how it works. I've experimented a bit with applying it to the Public Notice rebuttal, but, to be honest, I prefer the way it currently stands. With that said, for quite some time now, I've had this idea of a "bronydom/horsefuckery glossary", and I think pastedown would be a rather good fit for it (of course, a separate, independent Wiktionary-like site would perhaps be even better, but I don't really have the resources or the know-how to run it).

>>24884
Since DataByte made his list private I suspect whatever is still going on is going on behind closed doors now.

>>24885
Given how The List is still (as far as we know) actively developed, there probably is, yeah.
On a side note, spotted two small spelling/copying/writing/whatever mistakes in the OTPN (On the [so-called] Public Notice, that's how I'll shorten it from now on), and fixed them. Also clarified the TODO part at the end.
If anyone sees any other spelling mistakes, or otherwise has suggestions that are not already planned (see TODO at the end of the OTPN), do inform about them.

so, we are approaching 6 months since the list leaked and it feels like the PCL won... Databyte, Daring and PhoenixFire have seemingly gotten away with it scot free

>>24990
Wow, how incentivising

>>24991
well, given that Databyte and Daring are still seemingly still running the list now behind closed doors and Phoenix ruling the roost ever in EQD, can you really blame me for coming to the conclusion that they won?

>>24994
What would your preferred outcome be?

>>24885
What did he won? Nothing. Unless being ridiculed, doxed, having his ass stalked by /mlp/, 8ch, farmers and oldfags I wonder who in his right mind could call this a win.

>>24990
>>24994
The drama has died down because there's only so long you can expect people to sustain interest in something like this, but I hardly think the PCL "won."

What this whole thing basically proved is that the pony fandom is fracturing along the same fault lines as everything else in Western society, in that on the one hand you have nor/mlp/eople who just want to enjoy what they enjoy and otherwise be left alone, and on the other you have this neo-puritan cult of performative morality that appeals to busybodies and status-seekers. Unsurprisingly, the latter is full of narcissists and mental defectives who practice a different set of rules behind closed doors than what they preach to the world.

In the end, I think what happened is exactly what should have happened. DataByte and his cronies were exposed and publicly humiliated, which is what that sort of person fears more than anything else, and an alternative to FimFetch was created. It's the same as with the derpibooru drama: a circlejerk made up of self-aggrandizing jackoffs grew too accustomed to the idea of themselves as gatekeepers of an essential service, and started censoring content against the wishes of the fan community they purported to serve. Fans and artists flipped them off, and then went off and made their own boorus with blackjack and hookers. What it proves is that no service is "essential" unless it's providing something of actual value; as soon as it starts gatekeeping or censoring content, it is no longer essential. It also proves that since it's honestly not that fucking hard to slap a website together these days, any "essential" service can be independently replaced at the drop of a dime. FoalFetch was up and running within a few days of the "List" drama breaking.

>Databyte and Daring are still seemingly still running the list now behind closed doors
Who cares? Let them. I don't give a fuck if a couple of my alts are on some faggot's private shitlist and neither should you. These guys have been publicly humiliated, and they've lost whatever relevance and goodwill they might have had within the fandom, that's punishment enough. Hopefully they at least enjoyed the pizza.

If they still want to run their private servers and go around calling themselves "community leaders" there's not much anyone can do to stop them, but they only have as much power as the community is willing to give them. If derpibooru is pozzed, use ponerpics. If FimFetch is pozzed, use FoalFetch. If Trotcon is pozzed, go to MareFair. Decentralization is your friend.

>Phoenix ruling the roost ever in EQD
Does anyone even still give a fuck about EQD?

>>24999
I was looking for the image "a mentally retarded man on death row" acting like a winner. If ever the PCL believe he won anything. Like it's a game; we all well know this is not, it is a potential defamation case and be glad that the community is infinitely kind, others would have sued the owner of this site for false claims.
They know they fucked up and agreed to keep the list private.
So yeah they reap what they sow. DB still believe in his thing but started to lock things and delete info (too late) and still lurks around places like Kiwifarms monitoring threads pertaining to animal control and fandom drama. Spoilers: it does not happens here, they should know it. They have their methods, we have ours, the boomers around him on social networks by example.

>>24999
Phoenix's server, while it's the official EqD server, is not the same thing as EqD itself. EqD itself seems to be fine even with saucy stuff about minors, but Phoenix's server has supposedly gone into a mode similar to Databyte's Bronytales now. From my sources, this runs counter to what Phoenix even truly wants, so is probably his underlings being swept up by Databyte's influence.
All in all, it's a small corner of the fandom. The time to worry would be if these asshats start to use their pull to get con organizers to use the list.

PonePaste needs polish in the "BRIEFED VERSION":
"It is lead by DataBytes." DataByte, no s. This is an issue in several places.
"he publishes a report" They didn't intentionally publish publicly, as stupid as that is. They seriously thought just not linking it publicly meant it wouldn't be found.
"All of the users listed in this document are either involved in some way with the consumption, creation, promotion, and/or distribution of material that sexualizes children, or have shown in some capacity to not be safe to have in a server with minors." Um...did DataByte write this? The List explicitly covers things beyond foalcon itself, and even has artists listed for their work being edited into foalcon. And the last sentence is just taking their side, as if Imalou and Selenophile are known sexual predators, not just artists, for being on the list.
"the list created by the PCL is different then the one of DataBytes" PCL had no single list, as the next line clarifies (the brief summary really shouldn't need later lines to clarify false statements in prior ones). 'Then' should be 'then', and the grammar is bizarre. It should probably be "PCL's report listings are not the same as the FiMfetch list".
"DataBytes's patreon gets temporarily suspended." I'm pretty sure he was permabanned on FiMfiction too, a much bigger deal.

>>25035
Summaryanon here.
>DataByte, no s
Writing it as Databytes is a conscious decision. And it's not "several places", it's more like "everywhere outside of quotes or explanations". I'm not sure exactly why I write it like that (over half a year has passed since the paste was initially posted, my memory's kinda fuzzy), but I don't think it's without reason.
>"he publishes a report"
Wording changed in that section, but still kept on what is currently line 82.
With that said, keep in mind that there's some debate whether or not The List was actually intended to be published public at one point or another (see https://www.fimfiction.net/group/12/clopfics/thread/536499/fimfetch-owner-declares-jihad-on-foalcon-doxes-hundreds-of-users#comment/7961779 , more specifically, HK-FortySeven's note on the "general release" off-hand comment in the original text of The List)
>Um...did DataByte write this?
Yes, there's a "To quote:" before this line, which itself is in greentext to indicate that it is a quote.
>The List explicitly covers things beyond foalcon itself, and even has artists listed for their work being edited into foalcon. And the last sentence is just taking their side, as if Imalou and Selenophile are known sexual predators, not just artists, for being on the list.
The line immediately after this reads: "The methodology used in the report is deeply flawed, essentially equating to a witch hunt". What you say is true, and examples are shown throughout the summary (my favourite one is >get in The List for SPONGEBOB COPYPASTA)
> PCL had no single list, as the next line clarifies (the brief summary really shouldn't need later lines to clarify false statements in prior ones).
Fair enough. Wording changed, lines merged.
>'Then' should be 'then'
Kek. I get what you mean, fixed.
>grammar is bizarre. It should probably be "PCL's report listings are not the same as the FiMfetch list".
ESLbros...
I'll keep things as is for now (with then corrected to than, of course), as it doesn't sound that off to me.
>I'm pretty sure he was permabanned on FiMfiction too, a much bigger deal.
FimFetch doesn't show ads, so Patreon is the only way (besides paying out of pocket) that it stays afloat; having FimFetch's only real source of income being taken away is, at least I'd say, more important than having an obscure barely-active personal account banned.

I'd write more, but it's late here, so I'll prob' update the summary as a whole (since there were in fact new, albeit sparse events that happened since the summary was last updated, including a new story on FimFiction IIRC), tomorrow.

>>25080
you know, at the end of the day, let Daring and Data keep updating the list, they're just digging their own graves by going full retard, and im saying this as someone on the list and got banned from a few servers because of it and the resulting doxxing that happened to daring, databyte and phoenix