So here's a not so smart guy thinking he can dox half of the community because faolcon is bad, but can go away with it without issues.
tl;dr FiMFetch archivist went full retard and made a list of all the "pedos" in the fandom, utilizing only the most infallible methodologies and foolproof data research.
Spoiler alert: it's all fucking bullshit, and most of all the "data" he pulled were """reports""" from a discord server trying to be the police of the fandom.
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>>24023
while the user in question is only quilty of faving and uploading foalcon onto derpibooru, it doesn't mean they're they should be allowed in a server with many children in it
while the user in question is only quilty of faving and uploading foalcon onto derpibooru, it doesn't mean they're they should be allowed in a server with many children in it
>>24023
Put everyone on the list with no regard for what they did like they did to everyone else, fuck them for closing their server all at once to shut down the investigation and distribute guilt evenly. They should be made an example of in the community that we don't need faggy secret self-selected morality despots who are also all hypocritical as fuck as an aside. Doubtlessly, for merely enjoying pony in the first place, there are far more people who want worse for them than what they did to listed anons. Nonetheless they think they are in a position to tell everyone what to do, fuck them. Foalcon is based, jannies are sometimes based, third party busybodies trying to force all of humanity to comply with their arbitrary self-righteous demands are fucking pathetic.
Put everyone on the list with no regard for what they did like they did to everyone else, fuck them for closing their server all at once to shut down the investigation and distribute guilt evenly. They should be made an example of in the community that we don't need faggy secret self-selected morality despots who are also all hypocritical as fuck as an aside. Doubtlessly, for merely enjoying pony in the first place, there are far more people who want worse for them than what they did to listed anons. Nonetheless they think they are in a position to tell everyone what to do, fuck them. Foalcon is based, jannies are sometimes based, third party busybodies trying to force all of humanity to comply with their arbitrary self-righteous demands are fucking pathetic.
>>24025
I only said the jannies are sometimes based thing so the local jannies don't janny me btw it was a lie.
I only said the jannies are sometimes based thing so the local jannies don't janny me btw it was a lie.
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>>24020
Their use of "MAPs" in that rule covers anyone looking at foalcon. It's literally written to use PCL's reports list, plus Databyte and Daring's list, as banlists. Pure thought police.
Their use of "MAPs" in that rule covers anyone looking at foalcon. It's literally written to use PCL's reports list, plus Databyte and Daring's list, as banlists. Pure thought police.
>>24024
Make sure to share your leftover pizza with your caged dog in between jacking it to Scootaloo's tight vagoo.
Make sure to share your leftover pizza with your caged dog in between jacking it to Scootaloo's tight vagoo.
>>24025
I understand the rage, but let's not go down to their level. If we follow through with this, they'd just rejoice that the EEEBIL neo-nazi MAPs are harassing the golly-good innocent "protectors" of the community, we'd be no better than them, and we'd gain very little, if anything at all. Do not give them fuel for the fire. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
By picking our targets selectively, we will not only gain a moral victory over them, but we might be able to do something productive with the remaining ones. Certain aspects of the PCL, like keeping track of scammers, could be of much use to us and the community as a whole. The PCL, as we've seen, had many problems, including the cult-like secrecy, "casual messaging", poor leadership, ect., which caused it to end up in the state it is now. But who's to say that it can't be reformed? I propose some of the following:
>Make the PCL semi-public: everyone can see the messages, but only the moderators of the servers can write in it.
>Make them publish (bi-)weekly reports of their actions, so that everyone will be aware of what they are doing.
>Prevent any off-topic or casual conversations.
>Form an audit commission of sorts to keep them in check.
>Instate actually competent leadership.
We will, in fact, make an example of some members of the PCL: DataBytes, for even having the audacity to think going against the main point of your site is somehow a good idea, and for creating the list; PhoenixFire, for his incompetent leadership and failure to adequately handle the situation; DaringShephard, for possibly helping make the list, complying it, and even defending it; all the moderators who defended its legitimacy... Some others might get punished too if "juicy" things get found in the chatlogs. Point is, there are many people to blame, and they deserve to be punished. But not everyone.
Besides all that, consider two things:
1. We still have no full list of the PCL's members.
2. Was shutting down the server a decision they all agreed on?
I understand the rage, but let's not go down to their level. If we follow through with this, they'd just rejoice that the EEEBIL neo-nazi MAPs are harassing the golly-good innocent "protectors" of the community, we'd be no better than them, and we'd gain very little, if anything at all. Do not give them fuel for the fire. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
By picking our targets selectively, we will not only gain a moral victory over them, but we might be able to do something productive with the remaining ones. Certain aspects of the PCL, like keeping track of scammers, could be of much use to us and the community as a whole. The PCL, as we've seen, had many problems, including the cult-like secrecy, "casual messaging", poor leadership, ect., which caused it to end up in the state it is now. But who's to say that it can't be reformed? I propose some of the following:
>Make the PCL semi-public: everyone can see the messages, but only the moderators of the servers can write in it.
>Make them publish (bi-)weekly reports of their actions, so that everyone will be aware of what they are doing.
>Prevent any off-topic or casual conversations.
>Form an audit commission of sorts to keep them in check.
>Instate actually competent leadership.
We will, in fact, make an example of some members of the PCL: DataBytes, for even having the audacity to think going against the main point of your site is somehow a good idea, and for creating the list; PhoenixFire, for his incompetent leadership and failure to adequately handle the situation; DaringShephard, for possibly helping make the list, complying it, and even defending it; all the moderators who defended its legitimacy... Some others might get punished too if "juicy" things get found in the chatlogs. Point is, there are many people to blame, and they deserve to be punished. But not everyone.
Besides all that, consider two things:
1. We still have no full list of the PCL's members.
2. Was shutting down the server a decision they all agreed on?
>>24022
Image 3 is the most important, literally them deciding that merely liking foalcon gets you the boot.
If they didn't contribute to the foalcon list, it's only because they're generally lazy awful fucks who just saw a convenient blacklist show up on their doorstep and didn't feel like thinking further. These are the types who ruin the modern internet the hardest, they don't really hate people into foalcon, they just get a little uncomfortable and see a big list and go "oh gee, thanks, I was worried I'd have to think about it" and then eat their chips as they think they're now morally superior and society around them crumbles.
They're the same types as what gave us the sorry excuse for a character that one of them has as their avatar, Opaline "I'm evil with no actual reason" Arcana.
Image 3 is the most important, literally them deciding that merely liking foalcon gets you the boot.
If they didn't contribute to the foalcon list, it's only because they're generally lazy awful fucks who just saw a convenient blacklist show up on their doorstep and didn't feel like thinking further. These are the types who ruin the modern internet the hardest, they don't really hate people into foalcon, they just get a little uncomfortable and see a big list and go "oh gee, thanks, I was worried I'd have to think about it" and then eat their chips as they think they're now morally superior and society around them crumbles.
They're the same types as what gave us the sorry excuse for a character that one of them has as their avatar, Opaline "I'm evil with no actual reason" Arcana.
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>>24004
Yet he's watching my account despite I have drawn LOTS of foalcon, along with a couple of other guys on his list who have done this too, but perhaps he don't know or jut use watchlists to stalk artists. Anyways I left DA for a while, occasionally post some pleb shit there.
Yet he's watching my account despite I have drawn LOTS of foalcon, along with a couple of other guys on his list who have done this too, but perhaps he don't know or jut use watchlists to stalk artists. Anyways I left DA for a while, occasionally post some pleb shit there.
>>24032
This brings up a core problem where PCL and Databyte intersect. Databyte very early on was considered about lumping everything together, so called for a categorization scheme:
>[6/8/2022 10:20 AM] databytebrony
>Suggestion for reporting, I would personally appreciate having two categories for reports: security (raids/active hackers/trolls) and social (scammers, troublemakers, mental health concerns)
>
>Reason being while security reports are appreciated for awareness, there's little that can generally be done for most servers since Discord doesn't support banning users who are not in your server. (that I know of, I'm sure there may be a bot out there that can do that, but it's not a native Discord feature)
>
>Whereas social reports would presumably be more active members in the community and more likely to be in multiple servers.
On first glance (as certainly PCL only did), this makes sense, but it's a clear start of the manipulation; he tells everyone to focus on the "social" category, and in a way that suggests using it as a shared banlist. Basically, he was trying to steer things away from scammers and the sort, who you actually need to stop, and towards anyone who might be into the wrong things.
He furthermore uses "troublemakers" as a catchall that for sure covers anyone into things he dislikes. And at the time he was writing this, he had just recently banned multiple people from BT for being "troublemakers", as in people who weren't down with the super purity culture.
Databyte is a snake, and he slithered up PCL's asshole fast without them even noticing. It was only natural they ended up his puppet.
This brings up a core problem where PCL and Databyte intersect. Databyte very early on was considered about lumping everything together, so called for a categorization scheme:
>[6/8/2022 10:20 AM] databytebrony
>Suggestion for reporting, I would personally appreciate having two categories for reports: security (raids/active hackers/trolls) and social (scammers, troublemakers, mental health concerns)
>
>Reason being while security reports are appreciated for awareness, there's little that can generally be done for most servers since Discord doesn't support banning users who are not in your server. (that I know of, I'm sure there may be a bot out there that can do that, but it's not a native Discord feature)
>
>Whereas social reports would presumably be more active members in the community and more likely to be in multiple servers.
On first glance (as certainly PCL only did), this makes sense, but it's a clear start of the manipulation; he tells everyone to focus on the "social" category, and in a way that suggests using it as a shared banlist. Basically, he was trying to steer things away from scammers and the sort, who you actually need to stop, and towards anyone who might be into the wrong things.
He furthermore uses "troublemakers" as a catchall that for sure covers anyone into things he dislikes. And at the time he was writing this, he had just recently banned multiple people from BT for being "troublemakers", as in people who weren't down with the super purity culture.
Databyte is a snake, and he slithered up PCL's asshole fast without them even noticing. It was only natural they ended up his puppet.
>>24033
The way I see it, it's just the way they chose to run their server. Like sure, not everyone can agree with how a server operates and its rules, but it's not like they're actively trying to put out people and trying to show power or control over people or something. They simply decided that they don't want this in the server, and I think that's fair? It's purely for their server, and that's about it. Nothing else happens. They don't go around telling people to do the same, and they don't add any fuel to the fire. They're kinda just doing their own thingand keeping their server the way they wanted it to.
The way I see it, it's just the way they chose to run their server. Like sure, not everyone can agree with how a server operates and its rules, but it's not like they're actively trying to put out people and trying to show power or control over people or something. They simply decided that they don't want this in the server, and I think that's fair? It's purely for their server, and that's about it. Nothing else happens. They don't go around telling people to do the same, and they don't add any fuel to the fire. They're kinda just doing their own thingand keeping their server the way they wanted it to.
>>24038
So I guess you'll be completely fine if I go and organize a server called "Pony Community Leaders GTFO" where I get my server and a dozen others to ban anyone affiliated with that server. I mean, it's our servers, man.
So I guess you'll be completely fine if I go and organize a server called "Pony Community Leaders GTFO" where I get my server and a dozen others to ban anyone affiliated with that server. I mean, it's our servers, man.
>>24039
How is that the same thing? PCL is a much bigger movement and involved a lot of people and servers. Just because they're both called "Discord Servers" doesn't mean it's on the same level.
How is that the same thing? PCL is a much bigger movement and involved a lot of people and servers. Just because they're both called "Discord Servers" doesn't mean it's on the same level.
I'm gonna make my own discord, I'll call it eris, and we'll have blackjack and foalcon.
>>24040
Not at all. It's a different scale for sure but the premise would be the exact same. You ban people just because they're associated to something. They'd be banning people associated with PCL. Almost literally 1 for 1
Not at all. It's a different scale for sure but the premise would be the exact same. You ban people just because they're associated to something. They'd be banning people associated with PCL. Almost literally 1 for 1
>>24044
What about the optics and the hypocrisy guys, we need a moral victory, this is about ethics in foalcon here.
Are you one of them?
What about the optics and the hypocrisy guys, we need a moral victory, this is about ethics in foalcon here.
Are you one of them?
>>24044
Yea sure not everyone could agree on everything, and such rules are indeed very strict. But then again, it's how they decided to run their server and they stuck to it. It's more like a clash of opinions, some thinking the rule doesn't make sense while they think it's necessary for their server. In the end, it's just a usual server ban thing and that's about it. It's between the server and those that were banned, with no real need for outside interference. It would be kinda like busting into a random family home and yell at them telling them how to solve their family feud. It's something unrelated to the outsiders and should be left for those who were actually involved. In my opinion, at least. We can't control every single thing in the world.
Yea sure not everyone could agree on everything, and such rules are indeed very strict. But then again, it's how they decided to run their server and they stuck to it. It's more like a clash of opinions, some thinking the rule doesn't make sense while they think it's necessary for their server. In the end, it's just a usual server ban thing and that's about it. It's between the server and those that were banned, with no real need for outside interference. It would be kinda like busting into a random family home and yell at them telling them how to solve their family feud. It's something unrelated to the outsiders and should be left for those who were actually involved. In my opinion, at least. We can't control every single thing in the world.
>>24047
I don't think that's an apt comparison at all when those same people in the server go and ban others from the other serves they're in. If it was just between them and the server it would never leave PCL at all. That'd be like trying to take your family to a restaurant and being denied entry because they heard an unsavory rumor about you.
I don't think that's an apt comparison at all when those same people in the server go and ban others from the other serves they're in. If it was just between them and the server it would never leave PCL at all. That'd be like trying to take your family to a restaurant and being denied entry because they heard an unsavory rumor about you.
>>24047
It's more like your small convention that meets once a week to talk ponies banned a family because you heard they were on a list of people who went to a porn store, when you yourself encouraged the creation of the list to be able to escape having to actually think about who to exclude, so you could just point at a big blacklist posted on the doors that shames people for not being good Christians.
It's more like your small convention that meets once a week to talk ponies banned a family because you heard they were on a list of people who went to a porn store, when you yourself encouraged the creation of the list to be able to escape having to actually think about who to exclude, so you could just point at a big blacklist posted on the doors that shames people for not being good Christians.
>>24049
Moralistic shits like that are everywhere now. People on twitter actually saying that just having MLP porn at all "in mlptwt, a kids space" is evil.
Fucking hell, Zoomers were a mistake. They fap in private and then grandstand on little soapboxes in public about how bad it is to fap to the wrong thing, in between picking a side in the latest war and acting like it's just a game. They have no experience with actual struggles and aren't even trying to do anything about the shit wages they're getting when they go to work (they'd rather throw a shitfit about AI taking away their ability to do $25 commissions that don't pay the bills at all).
Moralistic shits like that are everywhere now. People on twitter actually saying that just having MLP porn at all "in mlptwt, a kids space" is evil.
Fucking hell, Zoomers were a mistake. They fap in private and then grandstand on little soapboxes in public about how bad it is to fap to the wrong thing, in between picking a side in the latest war and acting like it's just a game. They have no experience with actual struggles and aren't even trying to do anything about the shit wages they're getting when they go to work (they'd rather throw a shitfit about AI taking away their ability to do $25 commissions that don't pay the bills at all).
>>24050
>Zoomers were a mistake. They fap in private and then grandstand on little soapboxes in public about how bad it is to fap to the wrong thing
Millennials did this too. So did gen X.
Boomers, however, are the biggest hypocrites. They were all hippie degenerates, and then police people about sex today.
>Zoomers were a mistake. They fap in private and then grandstand on little soapboxes in public about how bad it is to fap to the wrong thing
Millennials did this too. So did gen X.
Boomers, however, are the biggest hypocrites. They were all hippie degenerates, and then police people about sex today.
>>24051
Gen X doesn't get on soapboxes except to say everyone sucks. South Park is like their magnum opus of their actual political views.
Millennials gave us things like this site, but then Zoomers got with Boomers and decided that actually, everything on the internet is real life, you should be canceled because you had the wrong greentext or porn collection now, let's all send money to daddy Elon even tho we bitch and moan forever that he's the worst person on the planet.
The funniest shit is Zoomers actually saying to not use a programming language because its creators didn't condone on their forums automatically rejecting all code ever made by anyone who's a nazi and having a longass discussion over the merits of it.
Gen X doesn't get on soapboxes except to say everyone sucks. South Park is like their magnum opus of their actual political views.
Millennials gave us things like this site, but then Zoomers got with Boomers and decided that actually, everything on the internet is real life, you should be canceled because you had the wrong greentext or porn collection now, let's all send money to daddy Elon even tho we bitch and moan forever that he's the worst person on the planet.
The funniest shit is Zoomers actually saying to not use a programming language because its creators didn't condone on their forums automatically rejecting all code ever made by anyone who's a nazi and having a longass discussion over the merits of it.
>>24052
To be fair Elon does ban for shitting on trannies and kikes and waking up White people routinely, so he is kind of a nigger tbh.
To be fair Elon does ban for shitting on trannies and kikes and waking up White people routinely, so he is kind of a nigger tbh.
>>24048
>>24049
I think we might be on different topics here? It feels that way, at least. My focus is on Zat and Marsh being involved in this whole situation while just managing their own server their way. Actions were taken that might not be agreed by all, but it's really just them doing their thing. The list kinda just happened, and they are not directly involved except if you count using the list to ban like a few people in their server.
>>24049
I think we might be on different topics here? It feels that way, at least. My focus is on Zat and Marsh being involved in this whole situation while just managing their own server their way. Actions were taken that might not be agreed by all, but it's really just them doing their thing. The list kinda just happened, and they are not directly involved except if you count using the list to ban like a few people in their server.
>>24053
For sure he is, but they make a big stink about leaving his site and then just don't because they're too afraid of being somewhere different that doesn't have a nice little phone app to hold their little hand and all their little fans to kiss their sensitive underage hineys.
A ton of them tried Mastodon and immediately went back to Elon's teat, all the while bitching that loli should be illegal when the Mastodons they went to banned it and Elon didn't.
For sure he is, but they make a big stink about leaving his site and then just don't because they're too afraid of being somewhere different that doesn't have a nice little phone app to hold their little hand and all their little fans to kiss their sensitive underage hineys.
A ton of them tried Mastodon and immediately went back to Elon's teat, all the while bitching that loli should be illegal when the Mastodons they went to banned it and Elon didn't.
>>24057
Oh don't worry, I'm sure they'll let in Databyte even after it's proven he's drooling over Scootacunny. Great minds think alike, after all.
Oh don't worry, I'm sure they'll let in Databyte even after it's proven he's drooling over Scootacunny. Great minds think alike, after all.
>>24058
When DataByte becomes the Pony Community Leader he will presumably afford his close circle some of those type of indulgences as long as they help him seize and maintain power.
When DataByte becomes the Pony Community Leader he will presumably afford his close circle some of those type of indulgences as long as they help him seize and maintain power.
>>24052
>Zoomers got with Boomers and decided that actually, everything on the internet is real life
Zoomers behave like this because they've never had a shred of privacy in their lives. They were born in cancel culture, molded by it.
Boomers are just shameless retards.
>Zoomers got with Boomers and decided that actually, everything on the internet is real life
Zoomers behave like this because they've never had a shred of privacy in their lives. They were born in cancel culture, molded by it.
Boomers are just shameless retards.
>>24057
I don't blame you for disagreeing, like sure ok. And then what? It's a pretty small issue and if you're not in that server it doesn't even effect you at all unless you reeeeeaaaally wanna poke your head into it. Feel free to disagree with this take, but I think this is pretty much a clear fact. Especially with everything that's happening right now, this is such a small thing in comparison and pretty much ignorable and just move on with life doing better things than trying to gripe over one server.
I don't blame you for disagreeing, like sure ok. And then what? It's a pretty small issue and if you're not in that server it doesn't even effect you at all unless you reeeeeaaaally wanna poke your head into it. Feel free to disagree with this take, but I think this is pretty much a clear fact. Especially with everything that's happening right now, this is such a small thing in comparison and pretty much ignorable and just move on with life doing better things than trying to gripe over one server.
>>24061
Oh they have privacy, but it's a strict binary. Public face as open as shit, constantly spewing vitriol against the latest acceptable target, then private face is down in the depths of whatever they just spewed hate against. They also see a strict binary on underage/adult and SFW/NSFW.
They have trouble with anything in between, or any inkling of greater consciousness about how cancel culture is trapping them. Everything is just a neverending fight for "survival" as in making sure nobody has their nudes or what they're into, by targeting others first to distract while they shore themselves up.
Oh they have privacy, but it's a strict binary. Public face as open as shit, constantly spewing vitriol against the latest acceptable target, then private face is down in the depths of whatever they just spewed hate against. They also see a strict binary on underage/adult and SFW/NSFW.
They have trouble with anything in between, or any inkling of greater consciousness about how cancel culture is trapping them. Everything is just a neverending fight for "survival" as in making sure nobody has their nudes or what they're into, by targeting others first to distract while they shore themselves up.
>>24013
>on Behalf of EqD
kek, these people are obsessed with participation in and creating problems related to moderation, a friend joined the eqd discord a few months back and the janny team hours later jumped down his throat and sent him to chatjail for having "IWTCIRD" in his bio
>on Behalf of EqD
kek, these people are obsessed with participation in and creating problems related to moderation, a friend joined the eqd discord a few months back and the janny team hours later jumped down his throat and sent him to chatjail for having "IWTCIRD" in his bio
>>24066
Reminds me of BT literally saying they struggled with the possibility someone could listen to music with the wrong title while on the server, or that it wasn't okay to link a tweet when the SFW twitter account has some NSFWish tweets. They really want to go in every nook and cranny and janny all night to create their perfect bubble where kids can never even learn that anything but wholesomeness exists.
Reminds me of BT literally saying they struggled with the possibility someone could listen to music with the wrong title while on the server, or that it wasn't okay to link a tweet when the SFW twitter account has some NSFWish tweets. They really want to go in every nook and cranny and janny all night to create their perfect bubble where kids can never even learn that anything but wholesomeness exists.
>>24067
it's not a legitimate goal either its just a way to be a cunt and enforce more bullshit with a claim of morality on the side of their hammer
it's not a legitimate goal either its just a way to be a cunt and enforce more bullshit with a claim of morality on the side of their hammer
>>24054
I think my comparison still works. Taking your family to a restaurant and denied access for an unsavory rumor. So the list got made which is the unsavory rumor. Then people got kicked or denied access from servers over said list. It's literally the same thing. It's not really justified so it's still an asshole move.
I think my comparison still works. Taking your family to a restaurant and denied access for an unsavory rumor. So the list got made which is the unsavory rumor. Then people got kicked or denied access from servers over said list. It's literally the same thing. It's not really justified so it's still an asshole move.
>>23582
Funny, during the derpi drama people had to keep explaining to Nebby why this sort of purity testing was a bad thing. Pretty fucking retarded to still think it was entirely the "alt right". There's a lot of names on the list that don't deserve to be there, but derpi mods are reaping what they sowed.
Funny, during the derpi drama people had to keep explaining to Nebby why this sort of purity testing was a bad thing. Pretty fucking retarded to still think it was entirely the "alt right". There's a lot of names on the list that don't deserve to be there, but derpi mods are reaping what they sowed.
>>24069
I don't blame you for thinking that, like sure ok that's understandable. And then what? It's a pretty small issue and if you're not in that server it also shouldn't n't even effect you at all unless you reeeeeaaaally wanna poke your head into it. Feel free to disagree with this take, but I think this is pretty much a clear fact. Especially with everything that's happening right now, this is such a small thing in comparison and pretty much ignorable and just move on with life doing better things than trying to gripe over one server. At least that's what I think, anyways. We got bigger stuff at hand that are actually more relevant.
I don't blame you for thinking that, like sure ok that's understandable. And then what? It's a pretty small issue and if you're not in that server it also shouldn't n't even effect you at all unless you reeeeeaaaally wanna poke your head into it. Feel free to disagree with this take, but I think this is pretty much a clear fact. Especially with everything that's happening right now, this is such a small thing in comparison and pretty much ignorable and just move on with life doing better things than trying to gripe over one server. At least that's what I think, anyways. We got bigger stuff at hand that are actually more relevant.
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