A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill. Examples include:
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
>you think the pharmaceutical companies are greedy assholes who pray on the despairation of sick people?
>Well I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
>you think mega companies moved jobs overseas because the CEOs are amoral pieces of shit who care more about money than the future of their country?
>Well I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
>you are worried about 5G because you think it will greatly enhance digital surveillance?
>well I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
>you think the covid vaccine was bad because lockdowns were used as an excuse to attack political enemies and side effects were ultimately worse than the disease?
>well I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
>you are worried about AI because of job loss, propaganda bots, and surveillance concerns?
>well I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
>you hate Hollywood movies because they are controlled by a few studios who push stale liberal trash?
>well I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
Ect
It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well. This has only gotten worse over time and I suspect it will only continue get worse over time. Is there any way this can be stopped before it collapses under the weight of its own bullshit into a flat earth singularity?
And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent, but silly shit like germ theory denial and flat earth are becoming more common especially on the right. Is there a way to stop this?
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>>391049governmantally controlled public education is to blame for this.
>>391052I was wondering what is wrong with OP and supporters as well with a lot of neighbors.
It may come to the fact that I never owned a TV, I never watched a Netflix show, I never assisted to an American indoctrination center, I never took a vaccine, I never owned a smartphone (I have a still working fine 17 years old flip phone), among many others.
Personally I think OP is on to something, I've had similar thoughts for a long time. My experiences lurking in these alt/dissident/whatever political spaces has been mixed. On the one hand, I've encountered some very thoughtful, intelligent people in these spaces, and have been exposed to information and schools of thought that I never would have encountered had I just stuck to normie spaces, government education and legacy news. On the other hand, it's also been in these spaces that I've encountered some of the most mind numbingly retarded shit I've ever heard in my life. To make matters worse, the retarded shit tends to be shouted from the rooftops by belligerent, confrontational people with terrible grammar, who can't handle being told that they're wrong.
As far as "conspiracy theories" in general, I've found that many of these actually have a nugget of truth at the center. However, surrounding that center is a thick layer of ridiculous bullshit that only a moron would believe. Unfortunately the bullshit tends to attract a certain kind of moron, and these morons end up drowning out anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about the subject. I think this is basically what OP was getting at.
For example: it is true that the COVID vaccines were rushed through trials and obviously cause a number of side-effects that haven't been properly studied; meanwhile, COVID-19 itself is not that serious an illness for most people. Unless you're 90 years old or have a comorbidity that makes you high-risk for dying from COVID, the risks of the vaccine outweigh the benefits. However, it is extremely unlikely that the vaccines contain tiny 5G nanobots created by Bill Gates to wipe humans off the earth.
The kind of person who is drawn to the screwiest aspects of a conspiracy theory tends paradoxically to be both skeptical and gullible. He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source, but will accept sketchy theories from the internet without a shred of proof. This kind of person is not so much driven by a quest for truth or even an interest in politics, it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp. That this kind of person is actually much, much dumber and far easier to dupe than the average normie is a fact that is usually lost on them.
[Read more] >>391072>COVID-19 itself is not that serious an illness for most people.Among many "inexactitudes" you mentioned, I pick this one.
According to the info available, covid-19 was the common flu relabeled. The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.
Dig moar anon. Your assumptions are false information spread by ZOG to imprint the false idea that there was a deadly virus around.
>>391072Well said.
>>391076You are exactly the kind of person he is talking about.
>>391079>it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't graspI don't think anyone in this thread would say lockdowns or the vax were a net positive. What people are saying is they weren't the end of the world. You can't address those arguments because to consider them would be to consider that you aren't holding any super secret knowledge and your ego won't let you do that.
>>391080>What people are saying is they weren't the end of the worldOkay. Then what? Are you upset because you are alive?
>>391081>Are you upset because you are alive?What are you even on about?
>>391081You sound like someone who didn't lose their business because of the lockdowns and paranoia.
>>391084>losing moneyCaring about profit while most people around you behave irrational and take sides with tyranny because the TV told them so is very jewy of you.
>>391085Caring about providing for my family, nigger
>>391086Oh, I understand. Yours bellies full comes first while everything turns into a police state. Very boomer of you.
>>391087>Yours bellies full comes first while everything turns into a police state. Your ego comes first. Any strategy for organization that doesn't involve the world telling you how special you are for finding secret knowledge that would actually help resist a police state you would prevent. You push away people who agree with you on policy but don't believe you have secret knowledge.
>>391089>secret knowledgeNah, it is common sense and to be convinced how a sane society must function. Your are too individualist which translate into to be disfunctional to be embedded in a community.
>>391092>satanic baby eaters and doomsday propheciesI don't know about that. But I know that your mindset is feminine and liberal, your wellbeing before everything and everybody else.
>>391087I don't see how you think you're arguing anything but nonsense. Is this Boom Boom?
>>391094>nonsenseReally? It was you who brought it first. What money has to do with anything?
See:
>>391084>You sound like someone who didn't lose their business because of the lockdowns and paranoia. >>391094>>391095I've noticed that boom boom will avoid answering that question at all cost. Most people would simply say "no"
>>391098>deflectionLet us go back on topic please.
>>391099That isn't really the topic of the thread. The topic is more related to asking others to believe retarded shit as a test of loyalty, but maybe it isn't a test of loyalty so much as it is retards who need to feel special with secret knowledge going into narcissistic rage when someone tells them they don't believe because they take disbelief personally.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/narcissistic-rage/ >>391100>>391101The summary of my point being that people dying is not what defines or substantiates a tragedy predicated on an abject lie
>>391102What did I post that would make you think I would disagree with that point?
>>391104No, I'm addressing you because you're a sane person in the room, and we're clearing the air
>>391075Thank you, this post is a prime example of what I was talking about.
>According to the info available, covid-19 was the common flu relabeled.>The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.See, this is just kind of vague. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but it sounds farfetched and you don't offer any detailed proof or cite any sources. "According to the info available" isn't much help; is the info you're talking about from someone who at least has a background in virology, or is this just some fringe schizo shit from YouTube? I honestly don't know that much about the subject myself, so I can't really argue it one way or the other. According to the information
I have available, COVID was some kind of mutated form of the flu virus, something to do with protein spikes. I guess if you've got something more on the subject I'd take a look.
>Dig moar anon. Your assumptions are false information spread by ZOG to imprint the false idea that there was a deadly virus around.This, too. Nobody who speaks in internet-schizo ever wants to make a coherent statement that a person could at least evaluate and argue with, it's always just these vague "the truth is out there" kinds of statements. Any information that doesn't mesh with whatever crazy schizo theories you believe in gets attributed to "ZOG" or some other shadowy villain, but there's never anything concrete offered here either.
If I were ZOG, and I wanted to keep the goyim from interfering with my nefarious plans, here is what I would do: I would make up a series of completely ridiculous lies that no sane person would ever believe, but present them as though they were some kind of hidden truth that (((they))) or [[[they]]] or {{{they}}} or even \\\\||||***&&&tHeY&&&***||||//// don't want anyone to find out about. Then, I would plaster this supposedly hidden, esoteric bullshit all over the public internet where any idiot with a $200 laptop could easily find it. The goal of this project would not so much be to deceive Anon, but simply to trick him into wasting his life diving down a complex warren of increasingly convoluted rabbit-holes that lead absolutely nowhere, thus ensuring he will never marry, have children, earn a living wage, vote, run for public office, or do anything else that might actually have an impact in the real world, and thus frustrate my ambitions for world domination. Just... tossing that out there for you to chew on.
[Read more] >>391135>thus ensuring he will never marry, have children, earn a living wage, vote, run for public office, or do anything else that might actually have an impact in the real world, and thus frustrate my ambitions for world domination. The shedding narrative fits this almost exactly.
>Avoid your vaccinated family, friends, potential romantic partners, and coworkers or they might shed prions on you! I have about as decent-sized a community of familiar people as the next guy, and not one thinks any of this shit. Where the fuck do you bitches live, a trailer park in Bumfuck Nowhere, OK?
>>391140I'm not talking about people IRL. Talking about far right spaces online.
>>391135>Nobody who speaks in internet-schizo ever wants to make a coherent statement that a person could at least evaluate and argue withYou are not fooling anyponer. Your aim is to make anons waste time and effort to prove to you what you refused to see for many years.
If you are really interested in the covid psy-op, /mlpol/ archive has plenty of documented info in thousands of posts, documents, testimonies, and of course facts.
>>391154You really don't know that we got a bunch of newfriends during the 4chan hack? Try not to drive them off. Many of them were under the impression this board is for discussing ponies and politics. Not telling schizo retards that they are special boys.
>>391154This wouldn't happen to be boom boom on a VPN would it?
>>391160Ask him what he thinks about flat-earth XD
>>391166How is said poster is not relevant to the topic of conspitard purity spiralling?
>>391167Is said poster with us now?
>>391169The implication being if said poster isn't immediately present than that their obvious, easy to detect, and beyond-disingenuous argumentation methods have no relevance in a thread dedicated to how idiots on the internet refuse to grow past obviously moronic notions is SO backward that you either DON'T know the individual in question or are arguing in the worst of faith.
>>391170>derailingOkay. Let us get on topic. Thank you.
>>391172>more derailingPerhaps you should make a new thread.
>>391173>A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill.Per OP, it seems relevant here
>>391174Glad you brought it up.
Do you have anything to proof, or disproof?
Anything besides derailing?
>>391175>>391176I thought it self-evident that flat earth theory is a ridiculous and contemptible example of precisely the sort of thing OP was initially posted about.
What is in contention?
>>391135Nice job showing how truly zogged you are, retard.
NEVER FORGET: Fraudshi ordered bats to be infected in secret US built and funded labs throughout chinkland to find out which would act as carriers without dying.
tl;dr he fucked up and exposed the entire charade. Also hundreds of US-chink biowarfare labs in Ukraine were seized by Russia, except there's been no international news coverage since the CIA controls >99% of """news""" in the US.
>>391173Yup that is boom boom and buddy, nobody is deflecting. Everyone here knows you aren't interesting in having an honest discussion. You've even said as much in the past. Why should they bother trying to have a discussion when it is clear you don't want one. You want to be called a special boy and fight da shillz. That is what gives your life meaning. I wish the mods would permaban your ass you are more disruptive than zald ever was. This nigger has been here forever. You can see him in this thread from 2021
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/archive/296336 making shill accusations. He was driving people off long before that though.
The fact that boom boom tries to pretend to be multiple people using a VPN should be considered shilling all on its own. Mods please ban this assclown.