A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill. Examples include:
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
>you think the pharmaceutical companies are greedy assholes who pray on the despairation of sick people?
>Well I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
>you think mega companies moved jobs overseas because the CEOs are amoral pieces of shit who care more about money than the future of their country?
>Well I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
>you are worried about 5G because you think it will greatly enhance digital surveillance?
>well I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
>you think the covid vaccine was bad because lockdowns were used as an excuse to attack political enemies and side effects were ultimately worse than the disease?
>well I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
>you are worried about AI because of job loss, propaganda bots, and surveillance concerns?
>well I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
>you hate Hollywood movies because they are controlled by a few studios who push stale liberal trash?
>well I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
Ect
It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well. This has only gotten worse over time and I suspect it will only continue get worse over time. Is there any way this can be stopped before it collapses under the weight of its own bullshit into a flat earth singularity?
And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent, but silly shit like germ theory denial and flat earth are becoming more common especially on the right. Is there a way to stop this?
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>>391819Sorry, not intending to deny a (you) or an image
>>391822>I shouldn't have to have honest discussion on a poltical discussion forum.>>391823I bet your happy you have the mods watching out for you.
>>391824I'm as surprised as you are, usually they give me a warning or a 3-day
knock on woodBut we've had a fun day of 'play' so I'll throw you a bone. She was the baby-sitter.
>391851
1. We do not read every single post posted to every single thread. We have jobs. We don't have the time to evaluate every single line of posts. We can generally weed out bot spam and CP posts because those look different from normal posts. What is harder to see is general derailing behavior.
2. Use the report function. That's what it's there for. If it's multiple posts in a repeated action, report multiple posts. Don't just bitch "why aren't mods observing this shit flinging contest I am involved in as heavily as I am?" We have better things to do with our time.
3. After receiving a report last night, we decided to stop the back and forth shit flinging and bring an end to it. What is your issue here? That you weren't the last person to fling shit? Too damn bad. We don't want to be on an image board where shit is being flung.
>>391852Shit-flinging is the natural state of imageboards. What kills imageboards isn't the shit-flinging, it's egotistical namefags who draw attention to themselves and make every discussion about themselves and call anyone who disagrees with them newfags because they're not also namefagging, while they themselves also keep shit-flinging. That's what killed ponychan, and it could just as easily kill us.
I have said my part now though. A decision has already been made. I will fuck off now.
>>391854Not even close. What kills imageboards is apathy, fueled by anons who fly-by-night, pretending to be "part of the group"
>Oooh, theres a new shiny over THERE?>proceeds to fuck off over there >>391854Use the report button. Just because you are reading the thread and familiar with everything that is happening in it does
not mean that moderation is.
>>391854>>391855Both of these things will destroy a community.
>>391858Nah. It is gaggers like OP with twilight zone breads like this one that messes everything up.
>>391862Other people were saying that they had noticed the same phenomenon as the OP. The thread is on topic and some of the discussion in this thread proves the observation has a basis in reality. Being against purity spiralling is probably good for a community.
>>391858Well now you're begging the question of what "is" an imageboard. Is it the users/culture? Is it what was established?
Is it destroying the /mlp/ community for Mlpol to exist? Clearly not.
The reality is - and this played out during the S harty-fag incident - is that:
Without 4chan, 4chan doesn't know where to go
>>391863>Being against purity spiralling is probably good for a communityThe anti-White community you meant.
Purity Spiraling is good as allows to weed subversives out. And there are a lot of them.
>>391863>purity spirallingBy the way, isn't this what anti-Whites call the "Woke Right"?
>>391882>Purity Spiraling is good as allows to weed subversives out. And there are a lot of them.That is not even close to true. You can still be a conspiratard and be subversive: see Project Mockingbird.
And spiralling is not good for anything, that's why it's called spiralling, as in spiralling out of control.
>>391882How does not believing x conspiracy make someone a subversive? Also I would suggest giving the following a read.
https://gildhelm.substack.com/p/the-northwest-territorial-failure >>391891>You can still be a conspiratard and be subversiveI see your point. But OP crossed the line with an over the top bluepill and that is inadmissible.
>>391892>Also I would suggest giving the following a read.I will, thank you.
>I'm all for people getting axed as long as it isn't me
Fucking typical
>>391896Sorry, I just jumped to the natural conclusion. Sorry for spoiling the end
>>391893What blue pill was in the OP?
>>391709>I think this bread is an attempt to use the concept of "Woke Right" but repacked as "Purity Spiraling". The goal is the same: to reduce resistance and counter attacks to subversive attempts.I don't think that's the case at all. Apart from all the hilarious side conversations about virology and uncle-touching, this thread is about OP raising a perfectly valid objection about the state of the online right. Over the course of the last 20 years or so, the old media landscape, where television and newspapers were a one-way conduit of information, has broken down and been replaced by online conversation. Subsequently, most of the old taboos have been done away with and subjects that were previously pushed into the margins of discussion are now up for debate.
The downside of this is that it's allowed a lot of fringe schizos pushing ridiculous, easily-debunkable nonsense theories to grab hold of the megaphone and take over the conversation. At best, this just adds noise to otherwise productive discussion, at worst it causes all of us to look ridiculous by association and causes us to lose ground. For example, arguing over silly theories about covid vaccines containing nanobots only serves to distract from the broader, more serious conversation about an untested, arguably unnecessary vaccine being pushed on the entire population without consent. Arguing about whether or not the earth is flat 500 years after the matter was settled only serves to distract from literally any productive conversation. And so on.
OP was right to bring this subject up. People with the sense to be skeptical of official narratives and official science should be equally or even more skeptical of online schizo theories.
[Read more] >>391910>schizo theoriesIt depends how knowledgeable you are. I read many anon affirming the the world is round, but none of them look like understand basic trigonometry, then to avoid a sterile argument with people who are ignoramuses, I stick to the following statement:
You can't explain a moron that is a moron, because is actually a moron. >>391912When you do explain is a moron you get shouted down as a shill though.
>>391915I'm sure you will frown at this meme and switch to character assassination to deflect. Math and geometry surely is not your strength.
>>391912>It depends how knowledgeable you are.My point is that if you're going to proclaim a theory you should be prepared to defend it, and if you're going to boost a sketchy theory from the internet then the burden of proof is on you, not the person you're arguing with. Being skeptical of official sources is one thing; sometimes authorities lie and sometimes they get things wrong. However, if you're going to push an idea that blatantly contradicts huge swaths of accepted science, the burden of proof is much, much higher. If you can't provide anything solid, it's within reason for people to dismiss your position outright, even if they don't know that much about the subject themselves.
> I read many anon affirming the the world is round, but none of them look like understand basic trigonometryI freely admit that I don't understand basic trigonometry. To tell you the truth, I don't even know what trigonometry actually
is. I barely passed every math class I've ever taken, and I stopped taking math after tenth grade because I don't need it and I'm not good at it. However, there are plenty of people out there who
do understand trigonometry, as well as many other subjects, who say that the earth is round, and I'm more inclined to believe them than you. The "glober" side of the argument includes pretty much the bulk of all scientists since Galileo; the "flat earther" side consists of a handful of high school dropouts doing meme-math on youtube. Moreover, we're not just talking about theoretical concepts like quarks and black holes whose existence is only proven by mathematics; we're not even talking about concepts that have only been proven in laboratory experiments.
Round earth is applied science; technology we use daily is based on the proven assumption that the earth is round. Anyone trying to argue the contrary will need to do better than just pointing to some dingus on YT dangling a plumb, and claiming that somehow it proves gravity isn't real.
>You can't explain a moron that is a moron, because is actually a moron.I may not know anything about trigonometry, but I know plenty about grammar. Yours is practically a war crime. What are you even trying to say here? Your flag is American; learn to speak English for fuck's sake.
>>391916I have no frame of reference for understanding what this is or what this proves. I suspect that neither do you. Either explain it or fuck off.
[Read more] >>391918>Either explain it or fuck off.The infographic explains with hard math that given a distance, a precise, measurable drop in the horizon will be observed, but nothing of this happens when experiments were are done. In simple words, there is not curvature and the establishment's scientists are liars.
>>391922Armchair math, debunked in the other thread as I recall. Meanwhile, these are NASA photographs of the earth taken from space.
>>391918There is a whole site dedicated to debunking this shit.
https://flatearth.ws/t/autocad >>391932See that's the other thing. Like all of this shit has been debunked multiple times by now, but he still posts the same stale meme and accuses those off disagreement of doing so in bad faith.
>>391936See and then you require others to believe that shit. The shear amount of people that would have to be in on this for it to be true is insane.
>>391937>The shear amount of people that would have to be in on this for it to be true is insane.Like the covid psyop. The paycheck of doctors and nurses trumps everything, including being co-conspirators and accessories in murder by killing the elders with redemsevir.
>>391938Yeah I really don't believe in the depopulation shit either.
>>391938How does
anyone benefit by claiming that the world is round when it is flat? What do they stand to gain?
>>391938All they had to do with covid was take advantage of people's existing panic and uncertainty to convince them to trade their liberties for safety from a simple flu. It's a completely different scale.
>>391922>but nothing of this happens when experiments were are doneWe already went over this, and cited dozens of peer-reviewed, recreatable experiments that showed the opposite of that. You ignored them, of course.
>>391936If you think they're CGI, why don't you comb through the data for artifacts to prove that?
>>391939>Yeah I really don't believe in the depopulation shit either.Yeah, like covidians are still dying.
>>391944The global population has not decreased in the past 5 years, so how is there depopulation?
>>391945According to who? Ah, the United Nations' data surely.
>>391946Okay, but what says there is depopulation?
There's no empty towns, no visible disruption to economic productivity, no mass graves. On what basis do you say the population is decreasing?
>>391944>Some rando died that means the world is ending!>>391946Can you prove the world population is decreasing? Or that everyone who says it is not is lying?
>>391947>There's no empty townsThe empty spots are being taking over by non-Whites if you didn't notice.