A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill. Examples include:
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
>you think the pharmaceutical companies are greedy assholes who pray on the despairation of sick people?
>Well I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
>you think mega companies moved jobs overseas because the CEOs are amoral pieces of shit who care more about money than the future of their country?
>Well I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
>you are worried about 5G because you think it will greatly enhance digital surveillance?
>well I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
>you think the covid vaccine was bad because lockdowns were used as an excuse to attack political enemies and side effects were ultimately worse than the disease?
>well I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
>you are worried about AI because of job loss, propaganda bots, and surveillance concerns?
>well I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
>you hate Hollywood movies because they are controlled by a few studios who push stale liberal trash?
>well I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
Ect
It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well. This has only gotten worse over time and I suspect it will only continue get worse over time. Is there any way this can be stopped before it collapses under the weight of its own bullshit into a flat earth singularity?
And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent, but silly shit like germ theory denial and flat earth are becoming more common especially on the right. Is there a way to stop this?
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I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
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>>390847
>trend
>the right
>has been emerging
>recent years
>over time
>I suspect
That literally isn't happening, and if it is, then not on the meaningful scale that you think. Either you created a fake scenario in your head because you clearly don't touch enough grass, or you're straight up being a malicious gaslighting son of a bitch.
>trend
>the right
>has been emerging
>recent years
>over time
>I suspect
That literally isn't happening, and if it is, then not on the meaningful scale that you think. Either you created a fake scenario in your head because you clearly don't touch enough grass, or you're straight up being a malicious gaslighting son of a bitch.
Man, I remember those shitposts. Back when edgy contrarian stuff was hip on account of most internet people being teenagers.
Thanks for the memories, fedposting faggot OP.
Thanks for the memories, fedposting faggot OP.
>>390847
My theory goes like this:
The theory that says "most conspiracy theories are just paranoia"… is itself a conspiracy theory!
Yes, I know, mine is too. You can call my theory delusional, then I'll call yours delusional..., and so it loops.
Well, your thread made the "Chaos Theory Spiral" itself!
But let's be honest for a second: don't get too worked up. Let the geniuses and the idiots share their theories. In the end, the one who's still alive gets to say "told you so!"
That’s it...!
My theory goes like this:
The theory that says "most conspiracy theories are just paranoia"… is itself a conspiracy theory!
Yes, I know, mine is too. You can call my theory delusional, then I'll call yours delusional..., and so it loops.
Well, your thread made the "Chaos Theory Spiral" itself!
But let's be honest for a second: don't get too worked up. Let the geniuses and the idiots share their theories. In the end, the one who's still alive gets to say "told you so!"
That’s it...!
>>390854
I should have said far right, but even on the normal right many of these are becoming more popular and the point I am making is that when people argue against any of these things they are immediately accused of disloyalty even if they agree with almost every policy decision. If a backlash doesn't come soon this will devolve to the point of flat earth becoming a major tenant of the far right.
I should have said far right, but even on the normal right many of these are becoming more popular and the point I am making is that when people argue against any of these things they are immediately accused of disloyalty even if they agree with almost every policy decision. If a backlash doesn't come soon this will devolve to the point of flat earth becoming a major tenant of the far right.
>>390859
>If a backlash doesn't come soon this will devolve to the point of flat earth becoming a major tenant of the far right.
Wait, are you seriously saying flat earth theory is becoming a core issue for the far-right??? Alright then, we have got five options here:
1. It's actually happening: well, fuck the right!
2. The left wants us to think it's happening: well, fuck the left!
3. You're trying to make us think it's happening: well, fuck you!
4. Maybe I'm just being faggot: well, fuck me!
5. Maybe the whole thing is bullshit: well, fuck everyone!
Take your pick
>If a backlash doesn't come soon this will devolve to the point of flat earth becoming a major tenant of the far right.
Wait, are you seriously saying flat earth theory is becoming a core issue for the far-right??? Alright then, we have got five options here:
1. It's actually happening: well, fuck the right!
2. The left wants us to think it's happening: well, fuck the left!
3. You're trying to make us think it's happening: well, fuck you!
4. Maybe I'm just being faggot: well, fuck me!
5. Maybe the whole thing is bullshit: well, fuck everyone!
Take your pick
I do not think it is happening yet. I think it will if the trend continues. The logical conclusion of all institutions are 100% lying and part of a satanic conspiracy and if you disagree you're disloyal is flat earth becoming dominant in those communities. There is no other way that ends.
>>390864
>>390864
And I don't want to imply that only the right does this kind of shit. I mean leftoids expect you to believe that niggers are poor because whitey is mean, the world will burst into flames if you eat steak, and that a man turning his dick inside out becomes a woman. But ultimately those retarded beliefs cost the left dearly. I worry the right will soon make a similar mistake.
>>390864
And I don't want to imply that only the right does this kind of shit. I mean leftoids expect you to believe that niggers are poor because whitey is mean, the world will burst into flames if you eat steak, and that a man turning his dick inside out becomes a woman. But ultimately those retarded beliefs cost the left dearly. I worry the right will soon make a similar mistake.
>>390869
I guess not. I can't disprove Islam or the idea that there is an invisible leprechaun dancing on the table either. Sorry I questioned your religion.
I guess not. I can't disprove Islam or the idea that there is an invisible leprechaun dancing on the table either. Sorry I questioned your religion.
>>390869
But it isn't so much about the conspiracies themselves its disbelief is seen as disloyalty. I mean you are already accusing me of bad intent when I made it clear I don't believe any of it.
But it isn't so much about the conspiracies themselves its disbelief is seen as disloyalty. I mean you are already accusing me of bad intent when I made it clear I don't believe any of it.
>>390864
>>390867
So you're basically going with option 5, huh? Alright...
But if you already know it's all bullshit and nothing has happened yet... Why the fuck do you even care???
Just don't give a fuck, same way I don't,
same way most people here don't!
Why rant about something you admit is worthless??!
Seriously, save the energy for something that's not a joke.
Believe me, all the dumb shit that ends up becoming "a big deal" one day usually starts with this kind of talk.
So just drop it and don't give a fuck.
>>390867
So you're basically going with option 5, huh? Alright...
But if you already know it's all bullshit and nothing has happened yet... Why the fuck do you even care???
Just don't give a fuck, same way I don't,
same way most people here don't!
Why rant about something you admit is worthless??!
Seriously, save the energy for something that's not a joke.
Believe me, all the dumb shit that ends up becoming "a big deal" one day usually starts with this kind of talk.
So just drop it and don't give a fuck.
>>390873
>But if you already know it's all bullshit and nothing has happened yet... Why the fuck do you even care???
Because over time this kind of shit will cause a similar problem for the right as it did on the left. Look if you are angry that I called this or that conspiracy retarded just point me in the direction of the community that doesn't require me believe in satanic cults and doomsday prophecies to hate niggers and kikes and I will be in a place where I don't have to see it all the time and can ignore it. Believe me I have looked, I'm not sure it exists.
>But if you already know it's all bullshit and nothing has happened yet... Why the fuck do you even care???
Because over time this kind of shit will cause a similar problem for the right as it did on the left. Look if you are angry that I called this or that conspiracy retarded just point me in the direction of the community that doesn't require me believe in satanic cults and doomsday prophecies to hate niggers and kikes and I will be in a place where I don't have to see it all the time and can ignore it. Believe me I have looked, I'm not sure it exists.
>>390875
Wow bro, what a genius move!
Seriously though, every political and religious ideology ends up in the same basket.
Name one utopia that ever rose up and actually proved one of those ideologies right.
Wow bro, what a genius move!
Seriously though, every political and religious ideology ends up in the same basket.
Name one utopia that ever rose up and actually proved one of those ideologies right.
>>390878
Well of course utopian aren't going to happen. A perfect world run by imperfect beings isn't realistic. Utopia shouldn't be the goal only a better system then what we have now.
Well of course utopian aren't going to happen. A perfect world run by imperfect beings isn't realistic. Utopia shouldn't be the goal only a better system then what we have now.
>>390877
Cross bridges when you get there. All you're doing is wasting everyone's brain cells thinking unusable things.
I get it, ideologies need moderation to stop insane zealotry, but that's energy that could've went to putting it to practice, seeing what tangibly works and what ought to improve. Stuff like libertarianism will never be taken serious because they spend all their energy wrangling their minds and not enough doing actual shit, good or bad.
Right now is not a time to second-guess: throw it all on the wall, then we'll see what needs to go.
Cross bridges when you get there. All you're doing is wasting everyone's brain cells thinking unusable things.
I get it, ideologies need moderation to stop insane zealotry, but that's energy that could've went to putting it to practice, seeing what tangibly works and what ought to improve. Stuff like libertarianism will never be taken serious because they spend all their energy wrangling their minds and not enough doing actual shit, good or bad.
Right now is not a time to second-guess: throw it all on the wall, then we'll see what needs to go.
>>390880
That is a fair point, but still we should counter bullshit when we see it. We know exactly what happened to the left when they required ideological adherents to believe retarded shit.
That is a fair point, but still we should counter bullshit when we see it. We know exactly what happened to the left when they required ideological adherents to believe retarded shit.
>>390877
Picture this: some dude's out on the street, screaming his lungs out holding a sign that says "I hate pizza!" Now if you just smirk, shake your head, and walk past him like any normal person, nothing happens. He yells a bit, gets tired, goes home.
But the moment you react(whether to argue or support), BOOM! Now he thinks he's starting a damn movement. Fast forward, and suddenly you've got crowds outside a government building, yelling about... pizza.
So here's my invitation:
Join the "Don't Give a Fuck Society".
We don't care about dumb shit. We don't feed trolls. We don't treat every hot take like gospel. We just move on, keep walking, and let the nonsense die in silence.
Wanna join?
All you gotta do is calm your tits, and stop reacting to every idiotic noise like it's the second coming.
Picture this: some dude's out on the street, screaming his lungs out holding a sign that says "I hate pizza!" Now if you just smirk, shake your head, and walk past him like any normal person, nothing happens. He yells a bit, gets tired, goes home.
But the moment you react(whether to argue or support), BOOM! Now he thinks he's starting a damn movement. Fast forward, and suddenly you've got crowds outside a government building, yelling about... pizza.
So here's my invitation:
Join the "Don't Give a Fuck Society".
We don't care about dumb shit. We don't feed trolls. We don't treat every hot take like gospel. We just move on, keep walking, and let the nonsense die in silence.
Wanna join?
All you gotta do is calm your tits, and stop reacting to every idiotic noise like it's the second coming.
>>390882
We are at the point where some of these movements have already started. They aren't huge yet but they are becoming real movements. Just ignore them as they gain influence? At some point you have to call out the retards.
We are at the point where some of these movements have already started. They aren't huge yet but they are becoming real movements. Just ignore them as they gain influence? At some point you have to call out the retards.
>>390883
I get where you're coming from, but I think we're looking at two different things here.
If you're talking about stuff like LGBT or feminism, yeah, they've grown big and influential enough that ignoring them isn't an option anymore. But the real mess started because people reacted early on. If we'd just ignored a bunch of loud faggots calling themselves "gay" decades ago instead of making it a debate, they would've yelled into the void and disappeared.
So yeah, fight what's powerful and influential. But also, when dumb new crap like flat-earthers or whatever pops up, don't give a fuck. That's how we should kill bad ideas before they become problems.
I get where you're coming from, but I think we're looking at two different things here.
If you're talking about stuff like LGBT or feminism, yeah, they've grown big and influential enough that ignoring them isn't an option anymore. But the real mess started because people reacted early on. If we'd just ignored a bunch of loud faggots calling themselves "gay" decades ago instead of making it a debate, they would've yelled into the void and disappeared.
So yeah, fight what's powerful and influential. But also, when dumb new crap like flat-earthers or whatever pops up, don't give a fuck. That's how we should kill bad ideas before they become problems.
>>390883
Retardation is a mind virus: the more you think about retarded things, the more you grow retarded. So, like, don't.
Retardation is a mind virus: the more you think about retarded things, the more you grow retarded. So, like, don't.
>>390886
Point me in the direction. You have incentive. If such a place exists I will go there and you will never have to be called out on retarded shit again.
>>390884
You remember that old "are other there freaks like me" comic. Where some trans otherkin faggot finds a community and contributes to the growth of retardation? I think that same thing is happening with schizo retards. As retarded as Tumblrtards were they managed to leave a real scare on the internet and poltical scene. I hope that doesn't happen again from the right.
Point me in the direction. You have incentive. If such a place exists I will go there and you will never have to be called out on retarded shit again.
>>390884
You remember that old "are other there freaks like me" comic. Where some trans otherkin faggot finds a community and contributes to the growth of retardation? I think that same thing is happening with schizo retards. As retarded as Tumblrtards were they managed to leave a real scare on the internet and poltical scene. I hope that doesn't happen again from the right.
>It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well.
I disagree.
>And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent
This is more what's being said. A lot of time if you mention "conspiracies" that are outside of the group's accepted ones, you get called a bad actor. People will claim that your intent is to ruin our optics and push potential recruits away. This is not what happens though since if your ready to become a "nazi", you have already cross the line of no return, being "known" as a flat-earther at that point is not a problem.
>Is there a way to stop this?
I don't think we should. I think it's a good baseline to entertain any idea and I don't like how conspiracy theorists can dismiss other theories for being "conspiracies". Conspiracies have happened irl. We shouldn't dismiss them as all wrong and instead try to verify ourselves their validity by case by case basis.
I disagree.
>And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent
This is more what's being said. A lot of time if you mention "conspiracies" that are outside of the group's accepted ones, you get called a bad actor. People will claim that your intent is to ruin our optics and push potential recruits away. This is not what happens though since if your ready to become a "nazi", you have already cross the line of no return, being "known" as a flat-earther at that point is not a problem.
>Is there a way to stop this?
I don't think we should. I think it's a good baseline to entertain any idea and I don't like how conspiracy theorists can dismiss other theories for being "conspiracies". Conspiracies have happened irl. We shouldn't dismiss them as all wrong and instead try to verify ourselves their validity by case by case basis.
>>390888
Nigger I've been here since 2017. I have thread on golden oaks. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bad actor. See this is what I am talking about. Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.
Nigger I've been here since 2017. I have thread on golden oaks. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bad actor. See this is what I am talking about. Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.
>>390890
>See this is what I am talking about. Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.
Eww, no.
If after all these years you are still not redpilled, then I have a bridge to sell you.
>See this is what I am talking about. Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.
Eww, no.
If after all these years you are still not redpilled, then I have a bridge to sell you.
>>390889
>We shouldn't dismiss them as all wrong and instead try to verify ourselves their validity by case by case basis.
At some point there needs to be a limit. When people start making unfalsifiable claims and shouting down demands for evidence as "shills" I think that would be a good baseline, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Look at the satanic cult shit or the covid die off theory still going strong after almost 5 years now. Left unchallenged this shit will grow.
>We shouldn't dismiss them as all wrong and instead try to verify ourselves their validity by case by case basis.
At some point there needs to be a limit. When people start making unfalsifiable claims and shouting down demands for evidence as "shills" I think that would be a good baseline, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Look at the satanic cult shit or the covid die off theory still going strong after almost 5 years now. Left unchallenged this shit will grow.
>>390892
I remember when the red pill was simply realizing blank slate was bullshit and jews were nepotistic. I miss those days.
I remember when the red pill was simply realizing blank slate was bullshit and jews were nepotistic. I miss those days.
>>390893
>or the covid die off theory still going strong after almost 5 years now
There are very good reasons why.
>or the covid die off theory still going strong after almost 5 years now
There are very good reasons why.
>>390892
Are you happy with how you posted it this time? I just wanted to check, in case you decided to delete and repost, like you did. Oh, didn't think anyone noticed?
Are you happy with how you posted it this time? I just wanted to check, in case you decided to delete and repost, like you did. Oh, didn't think anyone noticed?
>>390896
>Are you happy with how you posted it this time?
The edit was to correct grammar.
these instead of this.
>Are you happy with how you posted it this time?
The edit was to correct grammar.
these instead of this.
I don't give a shit who's right in this thread, everyone are faggots anyway. But watching you guys argue feels like a 3D character yelling at a flat-ass 2D cartoon trying to explain what depth is.
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>>390895
I don't think there are. Especially after the excess deaths started declining and over half of the excess deaths weren't even possibly related to the vax. Pretty sure the vax can't cause fent overdoses, traffic accidents, or niggers nogging.
https://tapnewswire.com/2022/05/31/rof-dolores-cahill-everyone-who-has-had-an-mrna-injection-will-die-within-3-5-years/
Fuck me I cannot type today.
I don't think there are. Especially after the excess deaths started declining and over half of the excess deaths weren't even possibly related to the vax. Pretty sure the vax can't cause fent overdoses, traffic accidents, or niggers nogging.
https://tapnewswire.com/2022/05/31/rof-dolores-cahill-everyone-who-has-had-an-mrna-injection-will-die-within-3-5-years/
Fuck me I cannot type today.
>>390897
Uh huh. Let me know when you fags are done posting and deleting. For the record, all you have to do is keep the thread open, and you can see what stupid shit got posted and deleted
Uh huh. Let me know when you fags are done posting and deleting. For the record, all you have to do is keep the thread open, and you can see what stupid shit got posted and deleted
>>390903
Its mostly just corrections when people delete shit. I feel like an edit button would fix the problem.
Its mostly just corrections when people delete shit. I feel like an edit button would fix the problem.
>>390902
>I don't think there are.
The hints are in the open, it is up to you to make an investigation and join the dots.
The pic is not meant to be mean, but to state a fact.
>I don't think there are.
The hints are in the open, it is up to you to make an investigation and join the dots.
The pic is not meant to be mean, but to state a fact.
>>390905
I delete the post and retype them when I make mistakes. You get angry about the deleted posts. If you don't want people to delete the post then add an edit button so people can make corrections when they make typos.
I delete the post and retype them when I make mistakes. You get angry about the deleted posts. If you don't want people to delete the post then add an edit button so people can make corrections when they make typos.
>>390908
The irony of that quote is lost on you. Any evidence I post will be accused of being falsified by a secret conspiracy.
The irony of that quote is lost on you. Any evidence I post will be accused of being falsified by a secret conspiracy.
>>390909
>you get mad
You are simply adorable. I don't care that you delete and repost, I'm just calling you out for it because I'm quite sure you were hoping no one noticed.
It's to emphasize that in spite of your VERY spirited posting, you're still not 100% on what you want to say, hence the deletion and reposting
>you get mad
You are simply adorable. I don't care that you delete and repost, I'm just calling you out for it because I'm quite sure you were hoping no one noticed.
It's to emphasize that in spite of your VERY spirited posting, you're still not 100% on what you want to say, hence the deletion and reposting
>>390890
>Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.
At the same time the Flat-Earth thread on /vx/ is still, what I would describe as compromised, since you can't make a new thread on the topic and it has reach its bump-limit.
>>390896
>Are you happy with how you posted it this time?
I noticed but I don't think there was any significant change between the posts.
>>390893
>shouting down demands for evidence as "shills"
>Left unchallenged this shit will grow.
I feel like that if there's demands for evidence, it's not left unchallenged.
Look, it's worse if the site starts to enforce rules and stuff. Removing spam and stuff sure. Having containment threads, sure. But controlling narratives because, "the debate is settled" could lead to something I, or you, believe in being a restricted subject matter.
>Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.
At the same time the Flat-Earth thread on /vx/ is still, what I would describe as compromised, since you can't make a new thread on the topic and it has reach its bump-limit.
>>390896
>Are you happy with how you posted it this time?
I noticed but I don't think there was any significant change between the posts.
>>390893
>shouting down demands for evidence as "shills"
>Left unchallenged this shit will grow.
I feel like that if there's demands for evidence, it's not left unchallenged.
Look, it's worse if the site starts to enforce rules and stuff. Removing spam and stuff sure. Having containment threads, sure. But controlling narratives because, "the debate is settled" could lead to something I, or you, believe in being a restricted subject matter.
Come back when you've decided what your BIG BOY voice wants to say
>>390910
>secret conspiracy
Not secret at all, the knowledge is widespread across internet and for years pouring into normie spaces. In other words, the redpilll has gone mainstream and can't be stopped.
>secret conspiracy
Not secret at all, the knowledge is widespread across internet and for years pouring into normie spaces. In other words, the redpilll has gone mainstream and can't be stopped.
>>390910
Everyone here's a damn devil's advocate. They'll justify literally anything and bitch about everything. Quit wasting energy trying to change minds, just gather the takes and move on.
Everyone here's a damn devil's advocate. They'll justify literally anything and bitch about everything. Quit wasting energy trying to change minds, just gather the takes and move on.
>>390911
Dude I made a typo and corrected it. I've been called a shillbot for making typos here in the past. Just no winning I swear.
Dude I made a typo and corrected it. I've been called a shillbot for making typos here in the past. Just no winning I swear.
>>390912
While not a huge gaffe, it speaks to how the poster in question isn't concerned with getting their points RIGHT as they are getting them MADE.
While not a huge gaffe, it speaks to how the poster in question isn't concerned with getting their points RIGHT as they are getting them MADE.
>>390914
No, hyperreality induced insanity has gone mainstream. Questioning the blank slate will still get you blacklisted. Chasing shadow conspiracies that don't exist is of no threat to the current elite. Questioning the very moral foundation of globalism, feminism, immigration, and diversity on the other hand...
No, hyperreality induced insanity has gone mainstream. Questioning the blank slate will still get you blacklisted. Chasing shadow conspiracies that don't exist is of no threat to the current elite. Questioning the very moral foundation of globalism, feminism, immigration, and diversity on the other hand...
>>390918
>No, hyperreality induced insanity has gone mainstream.
This is rich. Do you really believe anons are equal to anti-White commies?
>No, hyperreality induced insanity has gone mainstream.
This is rich. Do you really believe anons are equal to anti-White commies?
>>390918
>Questioning the very moral foundation of globalism, feminism, immigration, and diversity on the other hand...
Let me resume it for ya: Judaism.
>Questioning the very moral foundation of globalism, feminism, immigration, and diversity on the other hand...
Let me resume it for ya: Judaism.
>>390917
I think both probably just need to take step back and calm down.
Making errors because of sloppiness induced by either laziness or anger, does not change the validity of their claims. Not saying that's what's happening here, just that if that's what you think is going on then even if you're right it doesn't really change anything.
I think both probably just need to take step back and calm down.
Making errors because of sloppiness induced by either laziness or anger, does not change the validity of their claims. Not saying that's what's happening here, just that if that's what you think is going on then even if you're right it doesn't really change anything.
>>390919
At this point, no, but look at the critical mistakes the left had to make to even get any of our views heard. Denying human sexuality would get you banned until people started pushing back against the insane troon shit pushed down everyone's throat. No vaccine discussion was allowed at all until it became obvious the left was using pandemic as an excuse to go after enemies and the vaccine was not as safe or effective as hoped. Questioning immigration could lose you your job until it became obvious how damaging the effects were. The left demanded people believe absurd shit and then people pushed back. Let's not do the same thing.
At this point, no, but look at the critical mistakes the left had to make to even get any of our views heard. Denying human sexuality would get you banned until people started pushing back against the insane troon shit pushed down everyone's throat. No vaccine discussion was allowed at all until it became obvious the left was using pandemic as an excuse to go after enemies and the vaccine was not as safe or effective as hoped. Questioning immigration could lose you your job until it became obvious how damaging the effects were. The left demanded people believe absurd shit and then people pushed back. Let's not do the same thing.
>>390921
Jews did push blank slate more than anyone else. Mostly because they have an interest to do so.
Jews did push blank slate more than anyone else. Mostly because they have an interest to do so.
>>390926
>Mostly because they have an interest to do so.
Yup, they are still butthurt because the Romans destroyed their muh temple, and since then they want revenge on their descendants.
>Mostly because they have an interest to do so.
Yup, they are still butthurt because the Romans destroyed their muh temple, and since then they want revenge on their descendants.
>>390927
Eh, maybe that is part of it, but I think the bigger reason is because they are afraid people will kick them out again once they realize the kike community takes advantage of host nations at the expense of everyone else. The blank slate theory gets people to pretend like such behavior isn't a pattern.
Eh, maybe that is part of it, but I think the bigger reason is because they are afraid people will kick them out again once they realize the kike community takes advantage of host nations at the expense of everyone else. The blank slate theory gets people to pretend like such behavior isn't a pattern.
>>390922
I really want to agree with you, but at the same time, I'd rather just enjoy watching this chaotic fight.
I really want to agree with you, but at the same time, I'd rather just enjoy watching this chaotic fight.
>>390925
>of you
Delicious. Are you going to adress the part where one party said ridiculous and unsupportable things, while the other party said "No, you're retarded", or are you going to leave it at trying to characterize both parties as being stupid?
>of you
Delicious. Are you going to adress the part where one party said ridiculous and unsupportable things, while the other party said "No, you're retarded", or are you going to leave it at trying to characterize both parties as being stupid?
>>390931
Look, I don't know about this dude, but as for me, I just wanna play the neutral guy here (I'm not in the mood for an argument). And since I can't take both sides, I just mock both of them. But yeah, I've got no idea what his goal is.
Look, I don't know about this dude, but as for me, I just wanna play the neutral guy here (I'm not in the mood for an argument). And since I can't take both sides, I just mock both of them. But yeah, I've got no idea what his goal is.
>>390847
>A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years
I missed this. Whoaaa.
It reminds me of a woman just lurking /pol/
>A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years
I missed this. Whoaaa.
It reminds me of a woman just lurking /pol/
>>390902
Oh I'm stupid wrong link. I need to stop drinking so much on the weekends. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2829783
Oh I'm stupid wrong link. I need to stop drinking so much on the weekends. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2829783
>>390931
>Are you going to adress the part where one party said ridiculous and unsupportable things, while the other party said "No, you're retarded", or are you going to leave it at trying to characterize both parties as being stupid?
What? That sounds like both parties conducted themselves incorrectly. Like, "No U" isn't an argument.
But anyway, you're wrong on me not taking a side or something. If you read again, I said, "calm down" not, you're both "wrong" and I certainly didn't call anyone stupid.
Besides, not taking a side is a valid position one can take.
Also, I don't wanna be involved in contentious debates on the internet anymore. I still regret how it went down with Nigel and that was like almost 3 years ago or something like that since I really debated him.
>Are you going to adress the part where one party said ridiculous and unsupportable things, while the other party said "No, you're retarded", or are you going to leave it at trying to characterize both parties as being stupid?
What? That sounds like both parties conducted themselves incorrectly. Like, "No U" isn't an argument.
But anyway, you're wrong on me not taking a side or something. If you read again, I said, "calm down" not, you're both "wrong" and I certainly didn't call anyone stupid.
Besides, not taking a side is a valid position one can take.
Also, I don't wanna be involved in contentious debates on the internet anymore. I still regret how it went down with Nigel and that was like almost 3 years ago or something like that since I really debated him.
>>390938
Well, I don't know who you are in this thread since your ID is new but the people my original post referred to was the guy who wrote posts and had to delete them and re-post them to edit them and the other guy who got hung up on that instead of just continuing arguing the subject matter at hand. But you are right, I don't know which state of mind people are in.
Well, I don't know who you are in this thread since your ID is new but the people my original post referred to was the guy who wrote posts and had to delete them and re-post them to edit them and the other guy who got hung up on that instead of just continuing arguing the subject matter at hand. But you are right, I don't know which state of mind people are in.
>>390932
I'm perfectly happy playing the neutral party, but one side is arguing in bad faith.
>>390939
Oh, you know who I am. I agree that in this argument, one side is behaving rather disingenuously (and is - appropriately - quiet now).
But we're not going to get into the habit of conflating assertive and intellectual resistance to ideas as being "upset" or "un-calm".
This is among the most shameful of rhetorical fallacies
I'm perfectly happy playing the neutral party, but one side is arguing in bad faith.
>>390939
Oh, you know who I am. I agree that in this argument, one side is behaving rather disingenuously (and is - appropriately - quiet now).
But we're not going to get into the habit of conflating assertive and intellectual resistance to ideas as being "upset" or "un-calm".
This is among the most shameful of rhetorical fallacies
>>390940
>conflating assertive and intellectual resistance to ideas as being "upset" or "un-calm".
What I thought illustrated that Anon was 'not calm' was him commenting on deleted and reposted posts of the other guy. But I don't even believe that being upset or 'not calm' makes your claims wrong. I meant more as an advice to step back before the thread derailed.
>conflating assertive and intellectual resistance to ideas as being "upset" or "un-calm".
What I thought illustrated that Anon was 'not calm' was him commenting on deleted and reposted posts of the other guy. But I don't even believe that being upset or 'not calm' makes your claims wrong. I meant more as an advice to step back before the thread derailed.
>>390942
I'm usually not calm myself and have to take a step back often in order to gather my thoughts.
I'm usually not calm myself and have to take a step back often in order to gather my thoughts.
This was a disappointing waste of time, but I did feel entertained.
Please consume your medication before typing things, faggot OP.
Please consume your medication before typing things, faggot OP.
>>390945
I also disagree with OP but I'd prefer if you explained what you felt was a waste of time, instead of just insulting OP. If the two of you openly shared your perspectives with each other, I think we all could walk away from this wiser. ^^
I also disagree with OP but I'd prefer if you explained what you felt was a waste of time, instead of just insulting OP. If the two of you openly shared your perspectives with each other, I think we all could walk away from this wiser. ^^
>>390945
OP couldn't get his point across properly, and you were nitpicking unimportant stuff. So if you consider this a waste of time, I think both of you are to blame.
OP couldn't get his point across properly, and you were nitpicking unimportant stuff. So if you consider this a waste of time, I think both of you are to blame.
>>390942
In a dawn-out sense, we agree. While you were counseling OP to step back, I was making fun that he didn't, and was looking foolish
In a dawn-out sense, we agree. While you were counseling OP to step back, I was making fun that he didn't, and was looking foolish
>>390847
>I don't think jews reaaally suck baby dick right?
>I don't think they wouldn't care if they could get away with it.
>I don't think they could use collective pressures, they're extreme individuals like me OP
>I don't think new stuff could ever have unforseen negative side effects.
>I don't think malicious plans could fall through and I don't think anyone would ever have a valid reason for overstating a problem.
>I don't think demomic forces exist.
>I don't think there exists beings that would put in ulterior agendas.
>I don't think there is or can be a satanic plot.
>I don't think jews reaaally suck baby dick right?
>I don't think they wouldn't care if they could get away with it.
>I don't think they could use collective pressures, they're extreme individuals like me OP
>I don't think new stuff could ever have unforseen negative side effects.
>I don't think malicious plans could fall through and I don't think anyone would ever have a valid reason for overstating a problem.
>I don't think demomic forces exist.
>I don't think there exists beings that would put in ulterior agendas.
>I don't think there is or can be a satanic plot.
I didn't read this thread. I just wanted to say that the CIA popularized the term "conspiracy theory" in order to discredit people that were calling them out on their bullshit.
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>>390982
Horseshit, you read the entire thread front to back, and I don't know why you pretend otherwise
Horseshit, you read the entire thread front to back, and I don't know why you pretend otherwise
>>390952
I know about the kike herpes kiss and never said that new things couldn't have side effects and maybe overstating a problem could be useful for propaganda purposes, but it doesn't really help anyone reach truth especially if you commit to it or the claim is obviously false.
I know about the kike herpes kiss and never said that new things couldn't have side effects and maybe overstating a problem could be useful for propaganda purposes, but it doesn't really help anyone reach truth especially if you commit to it or the claim is obviously false.
>this thread
>>390984
The sad thing is even if I try going over the top some how it's an underestimation of what's going on.
The sad thing is even if I try going over the top some how it's an underestimation of what's going on.
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>>390902
Well, let us find out what's going on with the covidians at the hospitals today.
Video is from this week. A pureblood woman is gloating because she did the right call and she's witnessing that people are sicker than ever.
Screenshot is from today. Scott Adams is going down.
Well, let us find out what's going on with the covidians at the hospitals today.
Video is from this week. A pureblood woman is gloating because she did the right call and she's witnessing that people are sicker than ever.
Screenshot is from today. Scott Adams is going down.
>>390995
Please note, you were not being called fake or gay, it was an exclamation of frustration, because quite frankly it doesn't take a genius to see the likely outcome being boomers tanking what remains of the economy just to TRY and secure 15 MORE minutes of "fame", and let the rest burn.
Please note, you were not being called fake or gay, it was an exclamation of frustration, because quite frankly it doesn't take a genius to see the likely outcome being boomers tanking what remains of the economy just to TRY and secure 15 MORE minutes of "fame", and let the rest burn.
At some point we have to face the facts.
No matter what you say about shitskins, Whites simply aren't very smart or brave, the vast majority of them. They can see through almost no propaganda at all. They go along with authority, and don't even understand that thinking to a different conclusion and going a different way are options.
No matter what you say about shitskins, Whites simply aren't very smart or brave, the vast majority of them. They can see through almost no propaganda at all. They go along with authority, and don't even understand that thinking to a different conclusion and going a different way are options.
>>391052
I was wondering what is wrong with OP and supporters as well with a lot of neighbors.
It may come to the fact that I never owned a TV, I never watched a Netflix show, I never assisted to an American indoctrination center, I never took a vaccine, I never owned a smartphone (I have a still working fine 17 years old flip phone), among many others.
I was wondering what is wrong with OP and supporters as well with a lot of neighbors.
It may come to the fact that I never owned a TV, I never watched a Netflix show, I never assisted to an American indoctrination center, I never took a vaccine, I never owned a smartphone (I have a still working fine 17 years old flip phone), among many others.
Personally I think OP is on to something, I've had similar thoughts for a long time. My experiences lurking in these alt/dissident/whatever political spaces has been mixed. On the one hand, I've encountered some very thoughtful, intelligent people in these spaces, and have been exposed to information and schools of thought that I never would have encountered had I just stuck to normie spaces, government education and legacy news. On the other hand, it's also been in these spaces that I've encountered some of the most mind numbingly retarded shit I've ever heard in my life. To make matters worse, the retarded shit tends to be shouted from the rooftops by belligerent, confrontational people with terrible grammar, who can't handle being told that they're wrong.
As far as "conspiracy theories" in general, I've found that many of these actually have a nugget of truth at the center. However, surrounding that center is a thick layer of ridiculous bullshit that only a moron would believe. Unfortunately the bullshit tends to attract a certain kind of moron, and these morons end up drowning out anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about the subject. I think this is basically what OP was getting at.
For example: it is true that the COVID vaccines were rushed through trials and obviously cause a number of side-effects that haven't been properly studied; meanwhile, COVID-19 itself is not that serious an illness for most people. Unless you're 90 years old or have a comorbidity that makes you high-risk for dying from COVID, the risks of the vaccine outweigh the benefits. However, it is extremely unlikely that the vaccines contain tiny 5G nanobots created by Bill Gates to wipe humans off the earth.
The kind of person who is drawn to the screwiest aspects of a conspiracy theory tends paradoxically to be both skeptical and gullible. He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source, but will accept sketchy theories from the internet without a shred of proof. This kind of person is not so much driven by a quest for truth or even an interest in politics, it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp. That this kind of person is actually much, much dumber and far easier to dupe than the average normie is a fact that is usually lost on them.
As far as "conspiracy theories" in general, I've found that many of these actually have a nugget of truth at the center. However, surrounding that center is a thick layer of ridiculous bullshit that only a moron would believe. Unfortunately the bullshit tends to attract a certain kind of moron, and these morons end up drowning out anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about the subject. I think this is basically what OP was getting at.
For example: it is true that the COVID vaccines were rushed through trials and obviously cause a number of side-effects that haven't been properly studied; meanwhile, COVID-19 itself is not that serious an illness for most people. Unless you're 90 years old or have a comorbidity that makes you high-risk for dying from COVID, the risks of the vaccine outweigh the benefits. However, it is extremely unlikely that the vaccines contain tiny 5G nanobots created by Bill Gates to wipe humans off the earth.
The kind of person who is drawn to the screwiest aspects of a conspiracy theory tends paradoxically to be both skeptical and gullible. He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source, but will accept sketchy theories from the internet without a shred of proof. This kind of person is not so much driven by a quest for truth or even an interest in politics, it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp. That this kind of person is actually much, much dumber and far easier to dupe than the average normie is a fact that is usually lost on them.
>>391072
>COVID-19 itself is not that serious an illness for most people.
Among many "inexactitudes" you mentioned, I pick this one.
According to the info available, covid-19 was the common flu relabeled. The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.
Dig moar anon. Your assumptions are false information spread by ZOG to imprint the false idea that there was a deadly virus around.
>COVID-19 itself is not that serious an illness for most people.
Among many "inexactitudes" you mentioned, I pick this one.
According to the info available, covid-19 was the common flu relabeled. The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.
Dig moar anon. Your assumptions are false information spread by ZOG to imprint the false idea that there was a deadly virus around.
>>391079
>it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp
I don't think anyone in this thread would say lockdowns or the vax were a net positive. What people are saying is they weren't the end of the world. You can't address those arguments because to consider them would be to consider that you aren't holding any super secret knowledge and your ego won't let you do that.
>it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp
I don't think anyone in this thread would say lockdowns or the vax were a net positive. What people are saying is they weren't the end of the world. You can't address those arguments because to consider them would be to consider that you aren't holding any super secret knowledge and your ego won't let you do that.
>>391080
>What people are saying is they weren't the end of the world
Okay. Then what? Are you upset because you are alive?
>What people are saying is they weren't the end of the world
Okay. Then what? Are you upset because you are alive?
>>391081
You sound like someone who didn't lose their business because of the lockdowns and paranoia.
You sound like someone who didn't lose their business because of the lockdowns and paranoia.
>>391084
>losing money
Caring about profit while most people around you behave irrational and take sides with tyranny because the TV told them so is very jewy of you.
>losing money
Caring about profit while most people around you behave irrational and take sides with tyranny because the TV told them so is very jewy of you.
>>391086
Oh, I understand. Yours bellies full comes first while everything turns into a police state. Very boomer of you.
Oh, I understand. Yours bellies full comes first while everything turns into a police state. Very boomer of you.
>>391087
>Yours bellies full comes first while everything turns into a police state.
Your ego comes first. Any strategy for organization that doesn't involve the world telling you how special you are for finding secret knowledge that would actually help resist a police state you would prevent. You push away people who agree with you on policy but don't believe you have secret knowledge.
>Yours bellies full comes first while everything turns into a police state.
Your ego comes first. Any strategy for organization that doesn't involve the world telling you how special you are for finding secret knowledge that would actually help resist a police state you would prevent. You push away people who agree with you on policy but don't believe you have secret knowledge.
>>391089
>secret knowledge
Nah, it is common sense and to be convinced how a sane society must function. Your are too individualist which translate into to be disfunctional to be embedded in a community.
>secret knowledge
Nah, it is common sense and to be convinced how a sane society must function. Your are too individualist which translate into to be disfunctional to be embedded in a community.
>>391090
>a sane society needs to believe in satanic baby eaters and doomsday prophecies that the only the anointed few were able to figure out and it must fellatiate the egos of the special boys at all times
>a sane society needs to believe in satanic baby eaters and doomsday prophecies that the only the anointed few were able to figure out and it must fellatiate the egos of the special boys at all times
>>391092
>satanic baby eaters and doomsday prophecies
I don't know about that. But I know that your mindset is feminine and liberal, your wellbeing before everything and everybody else.
>satanic baby eaters and doomsday prophecies
I don't know about that. But I know that your mindset is feminine and liberal, your wellbeing before everything and everybody else.
>>391099
That isn't really the topic of the thread. The topic is more related to asking others to believe retarded shit as a test of loyalty, but maybe it isn't a test of loyalty so much as it is retards who need to feel special with secret knowledge going into narcissistic rage when someone tells them they don't believe because they take disbelief personally.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/narcissistic-rage/
That isn't really the topic of the thread. The topic is more related to asking others to believe retarded shit as a test of loyalty, but maybe it isn't a test of loyalty so much as it is retards who need to feel special with secret knowledge going into narcissistic rage when someone tells them they don't believe because they take disbelief personally.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/narcissistic-rage/
>>391100
>>391101
The summary of my point being that people dying is not what defines or substantiates a tragedy predicated on an abject lie
>>391101
The summary of my point being that people dying is not what defines or substantiates a tragedy predicated on an abject lie
>>391075
Thank you, this post is a prime example of what I was talking about.
>According to the info available, covid-19 was the common flu relabeled.
>The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.
See, this is just kind of vague. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but it sounds farfetched and you don't offer any detailed proof or cite any sources. "According to the info available" isn't much help; is the info you're talking about from someone who at least has a background in virology, or is this just some fringe schizo shit from YouTube? I honestly don't know that much about the subject myself, so I can't really argue it one way or the other. According to the information I have available, COVID was some kind of mutated form of the flu virus, something to do with protein spikes. I guess if you've got something more on the subject I'd take a look.
>Dig moar anon. Your assumptions are false information spread by ZOG to imprint the false idea that there was a deadly virus around.
This, too. Nobody who speaks in internet-schizo ever wants to make a coherent statement that a person could at least evaluate and argue with, it's always just these vague "the truth is out there" kinds of statements. Any information that doesn't mesh with whatever crazy schizo theories you believe in gets attributed to "ZOG" or some other shadowy villain, but there's never anything concrete offered here either.
If I were ZOG, and I wanted to keep the goyim from interfering with my nefarious plans, here is what I would do: I would make up a series of completely ridiculous lies that no sane person would ever believe, but present them as though they were some kind of hidden truth that (((they))) or [[[they]]] or {{{they}}} or even \\\\||||***&&&tHeY&&&***||||//// don't want anyone to find out about. Then, I would plaster this supposedly hidden, esoteric bullshit all over the public internet where any idiot with a $200 laptop could easily find it. The goal of this project would not so much be to deceive Anon, but simply to trick him into wasting his life diving down a complex warren of increasingly convoluted rabbit-holes that lead absolutely nowhere, thus ensuring he will never marry, have children, earn a living wage, vote, run for public office, or do anything else that might actually have an impact in the real world, and thus frustrate my ambitions for world domination. Just... tossing that out there for you to chew on.
Thank you, this post is a prime example of what I was talking about.
>According to the info available, covid-19 was the common flu relabeled.
>The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.
See, this is just kind of vague. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but it sounds farfetched and you don't offer any detailed proof or cite any sources. "According to the info available" isn't much help; is the info you're talking about from someone who at least has a background in virology, or is this just some fringe schizo shit from YouTube? I honestly don't know that much about the subject myself, so I can't really argue it one way or the other. According to the information I have available, COVID was some kind of mutated form of the flu virus, something to do with protein spikes. I guess if you've got something more on the subject I'd take a look.
>Dig moar anon. Your assumptions are false information spread by ZOG to imprint the false idea that there was a deadly virus around.
This, too. Nobody who speaks in internet-schizo ever wants to make a coherent statement that a person could at least evaluate and argue with, it's always just these vague "the truth is out there" kinds of statements. Any information that doesn't mesh with whatever crazy schizo theories you believe in gets attributed to "ZOG" or some other shadowy villain, but there's never anything concrete offered here either.
If I were ZOG, and I wanted to keep the goyim from interfering with my nefarious plans, here is what I would do: I would make up a series of completely ridiculous lies that no sane person would ever believe, but present them as though they were some kind of hidden truth that (((they))) or [[[they]]] or {{{they}}} or even \\\\||||***&&&tHeY&&&***||||//// don't want anyone to find out about. Then, I would plaster this supposedly hidden, esoteric bullshit all over the public internet where any idiot with a $200 laptop could easily find it. The goal of this project would not so much be to deceive Anon, but simply to trick him into wasting his life diving down a complex warren of increasingly convoluted rabbit-holes that lead absolutely nowhere, thus ensuring he will never marry, have children, earn a living wage, vote, run for public office, or do anything else that might actually have an impact in the real world, and thus frustrate my ambitions for world domination. Just... tossing that out there for you to chew on.
>>391135
>thus ensuring he will never marry, have children, earn a living wage, vote, run for public office, or do anything else that might actually have an impact in the real world, and thus frustrate my ambitions for world domination.
The shedding narrative fits this almost exactly.
>Avoid your vaccinated family, friends, potential romantic partners, and coworkers or they might shed prions on you!
>thus ensuring he will never marry, have children, earn a living wage, vote, run for public office, or do anything else that might actually have an impact in the real world, and thus frustrate my ambitions for world domination.
The shedding narrative fits this almost exactly.
>Avoid your vaccinated family, friends, potential romantic partners, and coworkers or they might shed prions on you!
I have about as decent-sized a community of familiar people as the next guy, and not one thinks any of this shit. Where the fuck do you bitches live, a trailer park in Bumfuck Nowhere, OK?
>>391135
>Nobody who speaks in internet-schizo ever wants to make a coherent statement that a person could at least evaluate and argue with
You are not fooling anyponer. Your aim is to make anons waste time and effort to prove to you what you refused to see for many years.
If you are really interested in the covid psy-op, /mlpol/ archive has plenty of documented info in thousands of posts, documents, testimonies, and of course facts.
>Nobody who speaks in internet-schizo ever wants to make a coherent statement that a person could at least evaluate and argue with
You are not fooling anyponer. Your aim is to make anons waste time and effort to prove to you what you refused to see for many years.
If you are really interested in the covid psy-op, /mlpol/ archive has plenty of documented info in thousands of posts, documents, testimonies, and of course facts.
>>391154
You really don't know that we got a bunch of newfriends during the 4chan hack? Try not to drive them off. Many of them were under the impression this board is for discussing ponies and politics. Not telling schizo retards that they are special boys.
You really don't know that we got a bunch of newfriends during the 4chan hack? Try not to drive them off. Many of them were under the impression this board is for discussing ponies and politics. Not telling schizo retards that they are special boys.
>>391169
The implication being if said poster isn't immediately present than that their obvious, easy to detect, and beyond-disingenuous argumentation methods have no relevance in a thread dedicated to how idiots on the internet refuse to grow past obviously moronic notions is SO backward that you either DON'T know the individual in question or are arguing in the worst of faith.
The implication being if said poster isn't immediately present than that their obvious, easy to detect, and beyond-disingenuous argumentation methods have no relevance in a thread dedicated to how idiots on the internet refuse to grow past obviously moronic notions is SO backward that you either DON'T know the individual in question or are arguing in the worst of faith.
>>391173
>A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill.
Per OP, it seems relevant here
>A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill.
Per OP, it seems relevant here
Anything besides derailing?
>>391135
Nice job showing how truly zogged you are, retard.
NEVER FORGET: Fraudshi ordered bats to be infected in secret US built and funded labs throughout chinkland to find out which would act as carriers without dying.
tl;dr he fucked up and exposed the entire charade. Also hundreds of US-chink biowarfare labs in Ukraine were seized by Russia, except there's been no international news coverage since the CIA controls >99% of """news""" in the US.
Nice job showing how truly zogged you are, retard.
NEVER FORGET: Fraudshi ordered bats to be infected in secret US built and funded labs throughout chinkland to find out which would act as carriers without dying.
tl;dr he fucked up and exposed the entire charade. Also hundreds of US-chink biowarfare labs in Ukraine were seized by Russia, except there's been no international news coverage since the CIA controls >99% of """news""" in the US.
>>391173
Yup that is boom boom and buddy, nobody is deflecting. Everyone here knows you aren't interesting in having an honest discussion. You've even said as much in the past. Why should they bother trying to have a discussion when it is clear you don't want one. You want to be called a special boy and fight da shillz. That is what gives your life meaning. I wish the mods would permaban your ass you are more disruptive than zald ever was. This nigger has been here forever. You can see him in this thread from 2021 https://mlpol.net/mlpol/archive/296336 making shill accusations. He was driving people off long before that though.
Yup that is boom boom and buddy, nobody is deflecting. Everyone here knows you aren't interesting in having an honest discussion. You've even said as much in the past. Why should they bother trying to have a discussion when it is clear you don't want one. You want to be called a special boy and fight da shillz. That is what gives your life meaning. I wish the mods would permaban your ass you are more disruptive than zald ever was. This nigger has been here forever. You can see him in this thread from 2021 https://mlpol.net/mlpol/archive/296336 making shill accusations. He was driving people off long before that though.
The fact that boom boom tries to pretend to be multiple people using a VPN should be considered shilling all on its own. Mods please ban this assclown.
>it IS Boom Boom
Dammit, I'm too good at this. Please disregard Batman as he takes a victory lap
Dammit, I'm too good at this. Please disregard Batman as he takes a victory lap
It's funny how the boomer always outs himself by juxtaposing his abhorrent takes with his abysmal-quality Facebook memes.
>>391193
>appropriate the Nigel-cycle meme for BoomBoom
I know that's not what you posted, but somehow that's what I read
>appropriate the Nigel-cycle meme for BoomBoom
I know that's not what you posted, but somehow that's what I read
>>391193
The most obvious way he outs himself is accusing others of derailing or deflecting when they point out it is. Why shouldn't they point it out? He made it obvious a long time ago he has no interest in honest discussions.
The most obvious way he outs himself is accusing others of derailing or deflecting when they point out it is. Why shouldn't they point it out? He made it obvious a long time ago he has no interest in honest discussions.
I think allot of the hyper extreme conspiracy theories are mostly false flags made by commies, troons, and glowies, augmented by true believing useful idiots. its very easy to de-legitimize a political movement if you can cause the conversation to be hyper centralized on the schizophrenic, retarded excesses. even having to talk about shit like "5g" and "satanism" as a someone in the right wing is effectively a win for leftists.
Think of like like being caked in shit. it doesn't matter if you explain that someone caked you in it so you should really be upset at them, or you rolled around in it yourself. you still smell like shit, people are going to want you to go away.
The only way to really beat it is to force the left to talk about their own excesses instead, lol. if you can keep them addressing the "transing the kids" issue, while playing clips of delusional leftist tik tok cretins screaming about it, you can make their normies leave.
Think of like like being caked in shit. it doesn't matter if you explain that someone caked you in it so you should really be upset at them, or you rolled around in it yourself. you still smell like shit, people are going to want you to go away.
The only way to really beat it is to force the left to talk about their own excesses instead, lol. if you can keep them addressing the "transing the kids" issue, while playing clips of delusional leftist tik tok cretins screaming about it, you can make their normies leave.
Come back Boom Boom. I want to witness what other facets of your schizophrenic swiss cheese of a brain you got.
>>391198
I think you are right that it is pushed by feds, but many of the people pushing it are grifters trying to make money off of bullshit like crystal healing and even more are just schizos/retards who fell for it and those people need to be shunned the same way we shun other mentally ill freaks like troons.
I think you are right that it is pushed by feds, but many of the people pushing it are grifters trying to make money off of bullshit like crystal healing and even more are just schizos/retards who fell for it and those people need to be shunned the same way we shun other mentally ill freaks like troons.
>>391200
If you want him to be gone for good simply make banners mocking flat earth or baby eating cabals. He'll have a melt down every time he visits.
If you want him to be gone for good simply make banners mocking flat earth or baby eating cabals. He'll have a melt down every time he visits.
>>391206
Who wants him gone? Do you know where we are? It's ALWAYS fun when old frens stop by to visit!
Who wants him gone? Do you know where we are? It's ALWAYS fun when old frens stop by to visit!
>>391207
The dude contributes to an attitude of paranoia and tries to shut down discussion. That shit almost killed the site in the past. We should encourage users who will have real discussions not people who will shut discussion down.
The dude contributes to an attitude of paranoia and tries to shut down discussion. That shit almost killed the site in the past. We should encourage users who will have real discussions not people who will shut discussion down.
>>391208
No, your inability to not read through posts contributes to an attitude of paranoia. If I can tell weeks out that it's Boom Boom WITHOUT staff privileges, AND he's "a problem" then he wasn't my problem to fix.
I agree, BoomBoom can be obnoxious as shit, but no one is allowed to abdicate their own reason and critical analysis
No, your inability to not read through posts contributes to an attitude of paranoia. If I can tell weeks out that it's Boom Boom WITHOUT staff privileges, AND he's "a problem" then he wasn't my problem to fix.
I agree, BoomBoom can be obnoxious as shit, but no one is allowed to abdicate their own reason and critical analysis
>>391154
>Your aim is to make anons waste time and effort to prove to you what you refused to see for many years.
Actually, my aim is just to have Anon clarify wtf he's talking about, as opposed to just making vague blanket statements about the truth being out there, and how everyone who disagrees with him on the internet is automatically ZOG. I thought my post made that clear enough, but maybe I was wrong.
>If you are really interested in the covid psy-op, /mlpol/ archive has plenty of documented info in thousands of posts, documents, testimonies, and of course facts.
More evasion. All I did was ask a very simple question. Anon claims that:
>covid-19 was the common flu relabeled. The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.
Bear in mind that I am not even trying to argue that he's wrong about any of this; all I'm doing is asking him to furnish proof. Anon does not elaborate on how he reached any of these conclusions, nor does he offer links to any sources that would corroborate his claims. Now, I have (You) essentially telling me to waste hours of my life trawling through hundreds of thousands of posts in the archive, most of which have nothing to do with the question I'm asking, in the hopes that eventually I will stumble across something resembling an answer. Obviously I'm not going to do this. If the claims Anon is making really are established, verified facts, then there ought to be an abundance of information readily available that will prove it. I feel like it shouldn't be that hard for someone as knowledgeable as yourself to point a poor, uninformed nitwit like myself in the right direction. Why are you being so evasive?
>>391181
>Fraudshi ordered bats to be infected in secret US built and funded labs throughout chinkland to find out which would act as carriers without dying.
>hundreds of US-chink biowarfare labs in Ukraine were seized by Russia
>the CIA controls >99% of """news""" in the US
Naturally. I'm sure any reasonable person would agree that all of this is perfectly self-evident, and thus requires no proof or corroboration. You sound like a perfectly sane person whose words can be taken at face value.
*sigh*. I'm going to restate my original complaint, because I feel like this is relevant to both of the posters I've responded to:
>The kind of person who is drawn to the screwiest aspects of a conspiracy theory tends paradoxically to be both skeptical and gullible. He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source, but will accept sketchy theories from the internet without a shred of proof. This kind of person is not so much driven by a quest for truth or even an interest in politics, it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp. That this kind of person is actually much, much dumber and far easier to dupe than the average normie is a fact that is usually lost on them.
>Your aim is to make anons waste time and effort to prove to you what you refused to see for many years.
Actually, my aim is just to have Anon clarify wtf he's talking about, as opposed to just making vague blanket statements about the truth being out there, and how everyone who disagrees with him on the internet is automatically ZOG. I thought my post made that clear enough, but maybe I was wrong.
>If you are really interested in the covid psy-op, /mlpol/ archive has plenty of documented info in thousands of posts, documents, testimonies, and of course facts.
More evasion. All I did was ask a very simple question. Anon claims that:
>covid-19 was the common flu relabeled. The virus genotype (molecular sequence) was just a computer simulation, yup, because the virus was never isolated, then to concoct a "vaccine" the hoaxers used the simulation to get a recipe.
Bear in mind that I am not even trying to argue that he's wrong about any of this; all I'm doing is asking him to furnish proof. Anon does not elaborate on how he reached any of these conclusions, nor does he offer links to any sources that would corroborate his claims. Now, I have (You) essentially telling me to waste hours of my life trawling through hundreds of thousands of posts in the archive, most of which have nothing to do with the question I'm asking, in the hopes that eventually I will stumble across something resembling an answer. Obviously I'm not going to do this. If the claims Anon is making really are established, verified facts, then there ought to be an abundance of information readily available that will prove it. I feel like it shouldn't be that hard for someone as knowledgeable as yourself to point a poor, uninformed nitwit like myself in the right direction. Why are you being so evasive?
>>391181
>Fraudshi ordered bats to be infected in secret US built and funded labs throughout chinkland to find out which would act as carriers without dying.
>hundreds of US-chink biowarfare labs in Ukraine were seized by Russia
>the CIA controls >99% of """news""" in the US
Naturally. I'm sure any reasonable person would agree that all of this is perfectly self-evident, and thus requires no proof or corroboration. You sound like a perfectly sane person whose words can be taken at face value.
*sigh*. I'm going to restate my original complaint, because I feel like this is relevant to both of the posters I've responded to:
>The kind of person who is drawn to the screwiest aspects of a conspiracy theory tends paradoxically to be both skeptical and gullible. He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source, but will accept sketchy theories from the internet without a shred of proof. This kind of person is not so much driven by a quest for truth or even an interest in politics, it's just an ego-driven desire to see themselves as privy to secret knowledge that the normies can't grasp. That this kind of person is actually much, much dumber and far easier to dupe than the average normie is a fact that is usually lost on them.
>>391224
>Anon does not elaborate on how he reached any of these conclusions, nor does he offer links to any sources that would corroborate his claims.
As you can imagine, I won't research again just to satisfy you with links. I did the digging and covid is bogus.
>Anon does not elaborate on how he reached any of these conclusions, nor does he offer links to any sources that would corroborate his claims.
As you can imagine, I won't research again just to satisfy you with links. I did the digging and covid is bogus.
>>391224
>He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source,
And why that would be? Only a very special kind of idiot would believe the same liar, not once, not twice, not thrice, but uncounted times.
>He distrusts all authority and categorically rejects anything coming from an "official" source,
And why that would be? Only a very special kind of idiot would believe the same liar, not once, not twice, not thrice, but uncounted times.
>>391224
Great job exposing your indoctrination AND showing pure, unfiltered sheeple's ignorance! You jumped through all those hoops simply to say "n-n-no U!!!!"? Wow.
Any one REALLY want to see how the start of realpolitik puritan spiraling is going? Let us start with Texas:
[YouTube] BREAKING: The Most OUTLANDISH Political Law EVER in 105 Years![]()
Eat your words. Immediately.
Great job exposing your indoctrination AND showing pure, unfiltered sheeple's ignorance! You jumped through all those hoops simply to say "n-n-no U!!!!"? Wow.
Any one REALLY want to see how the start of realpolitik puritan spiraling is going? Let us start with Texas:
[YouTube] BREAKING: The Most OUTLANDISH Political Law EVER in 105 Years
Eat your words. Immediately.
>>391226
I can understand not trusting authority but why trust sole random blog or social media users?
I can understand not trusting authority but why trust sole random blog or social media users?
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>>391233
>again aiming to the interlocutor's character instead of the facts
Let us flip the mirror and answer why you trust or even listen to liars and evil doers. Or you suffer from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome, or your cognitive abilities are gravely impaired, or you are getting paid. Which one is it?
>again aiming to the interlocutor's character instead of the facts
Let us flip the mirror and answer why you trust or even listen to liars and evil doers. Or you suffer from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome, or your cognitive abilities are gravely impaired, or you are getting paid. Which one is it?
>>391233
>>391234
Show of hands, who trusts ANY source at face value? Being 'distrustful' of a source WITHOUT your OWN due diligence is as retarded as expecting your opposition to vet their own sources to 'your precious' satisfaction. Want a source vetted? Do it your fucking self, or stand there with your dickin hand looking at Facebook 'political' memes
>>391234
Show of hands, who trusts ANY source at face value? Being 'distrustful' of a source WITHOUT your OWN due diligence is as retarded as expecting your opposition to vet their own sources to 'your precious' satisfaction. Want a source vetted? Do it your fucking self, or stand there with your dickin hand looking at Facebook 'political' memes
>>391237
NTA, but you havent displayed any justification for having your question answered.
Who thinks "You have to justify your ideas and opinions to me"? If your attitude isn't "let me see for myself", then kindly lurk moar
NTA, but you havent displayed any justification for having your question answered.
Who thinks "You have to justify your ideas and opinions to me"? If your attitude isn't "let me see for myself", then kindly lurk moar
>>391238
It wasn't even my question. I'm just appalled by your horrible etiquette that lowers the quality of the entire site.
Converse like a normal person.
It wasn't even my question. I'm just appalled by your horrible etiquette that lowers the quality of the entire site.
Converse like a normal person.
>>391240
The user assumes a certain onus when approaching information. If you want to understand something, you're better off investigating the topic yourself, so that if you have unanswered questions you can present them in discussion, rather than expecting a spoon-feeding.
The user assumes a certain onus when approaching information. If you want to understand something, you're better off investigating the topic yourself, so that if you have unanswered questions you can present them in discussion, rather than expecting a spoon-feeding.
>391241
You have completely missed the point.
They're not asking to be "spoon-fed", they are asking (You) how (You) came to your own conclusion.
When you make a statement, people are going to ask you to support that statement, and refute it with their own. That's how civilized arguments work.
You have completely missed the point.
They're not asking to be "spoon-fed", they are asking (You) how (You) came to your own conclusion.
When you make a statement, people are going to ask you to support that statement, and refute it with their own. That's how civilized arguments work.
I lost all respect for faggot OP's intelligence the moment he supported his "vibes felt on a bender"-ass musings with fucking 4chan.
There are no words to describe my increduity. Just LOL.
There are no words to describe my increduity. Just LOL.
>>391242
No, you have missed the point that other poster is actually going to provide. NTA, but I couldn't be arsed to even find the source material that goes into all kinds of otherwise well-known shit, including covid, or building 7, or any number of additional cases of otherwise "unproven" (but proven) shenanigens and government actions. Maybe it's cuz when covid was happening, all the info-dumps here were not obfuscated, slid, derailed, etc. like on /pol/, but that shit is old news
No, you have missed the point that other poster is actually going to provide. NTA, but I couldn't be arsed to even find the source material that goes into all kinds of otherwise well-known shit, including covid, or building 7, or any number of additional cases of otherwise "unproven" (but proven) shenanigens and government actions. Maybe it's cuz when covid was happening, all the info-dumps here were not obfuscated, slid, derailed, etc. like on /pol/, but that shit is old news
Or unless you want 'proof'/evidence that flat earth is a psyop/conspiratart purity spiral? If that isn't self-evident, then you're either ignorant of flat-earth theory (commendable) or you're very silly
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>>391232
More evasion, more buzzwords, zero substance, as expected. Once again, we see evidence that the internet conspiratard schizo is not interested in discussing or even learning about the topics he claims to have super-sekrit esoteric knowledge of. The whole thing is just about staking out a position as an edgy contrarian, in order to feel superior to the "sheeple."
>video
Welp, that's 22 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Was this the video you meant to post? Maybe you copied the wrong tab? Because this is nothing but some YouTuber ranting about a THC ban in Texas; it has nothing the fuck to do with anything being presently discussed.
>391225
>391226
I'm not even going to bother giving Boom Boom a (You) this time.
More evasion, more buzzwords, zero substance, as expected. Once again, we see evidence that the internet conspiratard schizo is not interested in discussing or even learning about the topics he claims to have super-sekrit esoteric knowledge of. The whole thing is just about staking out a position as an edgy contrarian, in order to feel superior to the "sheeple."
>video
Welp, that's 22 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Was this the video you meant to post? Maybe you copied the wrong tab? Because this is nothing but some YouTuber ranting about a THC ban in Texas; it has nothing the fuck to do with anything being presently discussed.
>391225
>391226
I'm not even going to bother giving Boom Boom a (You) this time.
>>390847
Just reading this post anypony understands how bizarre it is.
Not much to add except to call OP out.
Just reading this post anypony understands how bizarre it is.
Not much to add except to call OP out.
>>391257
Since 4chan went down, the Establishment confirmed potential bunkers. Since then they've been running various campaigns of a similar theme to drive engagement and correct 'wrongthink'
Since 4chan went down, the Establishment confirmed potential bunkers. Since then they've been running various campaigns of a similar theme to drive engagement and correct 'wrongthink'
>>390847
Some facts, properly sourced.
Pic 1 - American corporations lobbying for stonewalling the American people on the poisons they add to the food.
Pic 2 - Warning sign on a 5G tower mentioning "flu like symptoms". The roll out of 5G radiation was simultaneous with the covid psyop and flu like symptoms, exactly the same than covid.
Pic 3 and 4 - The zombie page of the CDC. You can't make this shit up. By the way OP, you might want to call the CDC to complain about their crazy conspiracy theory about "zombies".
Some facts, properly sourced.
Pic 1 - American corporations lobbying for stonewalling the American people on the poisons they add to the food.
Pic 2 - Warning sign on a 5G tower mentioning "flu like symptoms". The roll out of 5G radiation was simultaneous with the covid psyop and flu like symptoms, exactly the same than covid.
Pic 3 and 4 - The zombie page of the CDC. You can't make this shit up. By the way OP, you might want to call the CDC to complain about their crazy conspiracy theory about "zombies".
We know boom boom is using a VPN. Is he also pretending to be multiple people?
>>391241
It's like the schizo code or something to never give a direct answer to a question or to link sources.
It's like the schizo code or something to never give a direct answer to a question or to link sources.
>>391275
When the questions are so basic that any search engine, or more precisely any free-to-use AI can provide more contemporaneous sources and examples, no, you DON'T get to be a petulant shit on the internet without backlash
When the questions are so basic that any search engine, or more precisely any free-to-use AI can provide more contemporaneous sources and examples, no, you DON'T get to be a petulant shit on the internet without backlash
>>391276
Yeah I'm sure looking up proof that the world is flat or that every died 2 weeks ago from covid is going to be easy and obvious information to find.
Yeah I'm sure looking up proof that the world is flat or that every died 2 weeks ago from covid is going to be easy and obvious information to find.
>>391280
Who is going to believe the random schizo blogs 3 pages into the search over the .gov and .edu sources at the top and why should they? At least the people from the .edu and .gov sources are making technology that works off those same principles.
Who is going to believe the random schizo blogs 3 pages into the search over the .gov and .edu sources at the top and why should they? At least the people from the .edu and .gov sources are making technology that works off those same principles.
>>391282
You've been told. You can check the Mlpol archives if you want actual information. Suggested prompt: Covid.
You've been told. You can check the Mlpol archives if you want actual information. Suggested prompt: Covid.
Or, if you're THAT asshole, there's 2761 posts in the flat earth thread on /vx/
>>391285
What timing
>15 active users
On a GOOD day. But here's the fun part, most of them aren't the same user. MOST 'users' lurk.
You don't HAVE to post to be 'active' on Mlpol, because we don't have shills, slide threads, or other shit.
It's kinda like what /pol/ COULD look like if it wasn't pozzed by tranny jannies and shills.
We realized this years ago, you're just NOW getting the memo
What timing
>15 active users
On a GOOD day. But here's the fun part, most of them aren't the same user. MOST 'users' lurk.
You don't HAVE to post to be 'active' on Mlpol, because we don't have shills, slide threads, or other shit.
It's kinda like what /pol/ COULD look like if it wasn't pozzed by tranny jannies and shills.
We realized this years ago, you're just NOW getting the memo
>>391287
>We realized this years ago, you're just NOW getting the memo
Nigger, I knew this 8 years ago. Fuck off with your lecturing the obvious.
>We realized this years ago, you're just NOW getting the memo
Nigger, I knew this 8 years ago. Fuck off with your lecturing the obvious.
>>391288
Nigger, I'm not lecturing you, I'm lecturing others in a dialogue with you. If I DIDN'T respect you, I wouldn't bother
Nigger, I'm not lecturing you, I'm lecturing others in a dialogue with you. If I DIDN'T respect you, I wouldn't bother
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>waaaaah, I can't, I'm too scared
Because you have reason. I've probably ate more perma-bans than anyone (except Nigel, when he went on his "McDonald's hotspot" venture).
If you think staff are actual nazis, then it's likely you don't know how to act appropriately on the internet.
Let me give you an example:
Presenting the idea that the world is flat, but then ignoring all proof it isn't, and then calling those proof-presenting anons as "Nasa-Masonic shills"
Because you have reason. I've probably ate more perma-bans than anyone (except Nigel, when he went on his "McDonald's hotspot" venture).
If you think staff are actual nazis, then it's likely you don't know how to act appropriately on the internet.
Let me give you an example:
Presenting the idea that the world is flat, but then ignoring all proof it isn't, and then calling those proof-presenting anons as "Nasa-Masonic shills"
This whole shitstorm is proving why anonymous imageboards are not so great as a platform. You never know who you are talking to and the same person can sock puppet and that is to say nothing of the bots that are destroying other imageboards. Maybe going back to forums is the answers. Or a forum with anon section in addition to the rest of the forum.
>>391314
What a bitch-ass take. I hope you aren't "that" Sven.
The solution is to suck it up and take responsibility for what you consume online, and be ready to speak to/for it. Thats it, grow a pair
What a bitch-ass take. I hope you aren't "that" Sven.
The solution is to suck it up and take responsibility for what you consume online, and be ready to speak to/for it. Thats it, grow a pair
>>391318
I mean yeah, but years on these platforms especially with the rise in bots is going to fuck with people's heads.
I mean yeah, but years on these platforms especially with the rise in bots is going to fuck with people's heads.
>>391320
>bots
Oh! You have no idea! Credit where due, it has 'gotten' bad previously, but strap-in your seatbelts.
We don't KNOW where it's gonna go with AI, which is why authenticity is to become prime real estate
>bots
Oh! You have no idea! Credit where due, it has 'gotten' bad previously, but strap-in your seatbelts.
We don't KNOW where it's gonna go with AI, which is why authenticity is to become prime real estate
>>391321
It's already getting bad. Not only are the bots learning from the imageboard communities, but the communities are "learning" from the bots too. We are literally being programmed.
It's already getting bad. Not only are the bots learning from the imageboard communities, but the communities are "learning" from the bots too. We are literally being programmed.
>>391329
Even if we aren't using 4chan directly we all exist in an imageboard ecosystem and we are all being influenced by it. I don't know if there is another way to fight it aside from a forum type website or namefagging.
Even if we aren't using 4chan directly we all exist in an imageboard ecosystem and we are all being influenced by it. I don't know if there is another way to fight it aside from a forum type website or namefagging.
>>391337
Agreed, but what I am saying is that rising above anonymous imageboards as a communication medium might be part of that. A forum could still allow people to use VPNs or have an anonymous section for members to discuss social taboos while providing a layer of trust and defense against shills and bots.
Agreed, but what I am saying is that rising above anonymous imageboards as a communication medium might be part of that. A forum could still allow people to use VPNs or have an anonymous section for members to discuss social taboos while providing a layer of trust and defense against shills and bots.
The only disinfo they try that they seem to think works now days is flooding with garbage, the content doesn't matter just making sure the flow rate is higher than successful 'searches'.
What they don't get is that they're irritating people who will one day solve the slop to real relationship search pipeline.
They would love to get their grubby hands on it, but they fucked up.
What they don't get is that they're irritating people who will one day solve the slop to real relationship search pipeline.
They would love to get their grubby hands on it, but they fucked up.
The latter are liberals that need all things to be the result of sin--and be of apocalyptic levels of severity--or they don't care. They ultimately live comfortable, middle class or higher lives and only really give a shit about politics if it's bacon-wrapped in culture war slop. If you even attempt to have a serious conversation about the economics / logistics around the thing they are discontent with--and could very well find valid reasons to--with potential community organization they could engage in to counter that, you just put them in a conversation where they can't navigate through vibes, abrahamic religion and soyjaks. It's much easier to conclude you must be le ebil glowjoo the TV man told them about than to try reactivating the ivermectinated can of spam they call a skull. They will likely die of raw milk diseases before getting a reality check, and there'll be plenty of goons just like them--both human and AI--ready to take their place and keep shouting over the sensible people.
>>391314
>>391318
Well, I think I'm 'that' Sven you're referring to. I'm the guy who has been the most engaged in writefagging during the years here.
I suppose that we can identify each other through flags means this board isn't as anonymous as one without them, or that I really should post with an American vpn to make it so, if I felt like it. Idk. Just some food for thought.
>>391318
Well, I think I'm 'that' Sven you're referring to. I'm the guy who has been the most engaged in writefagging during the years here.
I suppose that we can identify each other through flags means this board isn't as anonymous as one without them, or that I really should post with an American vpn to make it so, if I felt like it. Idk. Just some food for thought.
>>391347
You're missing the joke. There's no 'that' sven, it was a social-engineering sort of question geared to see what information would furnish it's self, you silly goose. There never was a 'that' Nigel, until one in particular became so.
Recently it became impressed on me the usefulness and versitility of having a hashed tripcode (cross-platform) so one may consider getting one of those, beyond whatever user names one may have incorporated in their social medias.
Having said, it was most effectively impressed upon me many moons ago by 32 million (the guy who killed this board one time because he was strong enough). What was it, endchan/sp/? The gets-ball lads. Anyway, his point was that especially with off-chans (if they prevail) you'll always have a core that maintains/perpetuates/ensures the perpetuity of the thing. In such cases, you can either pick a name, or you'll be given one when you distinguish yourself.
This is actually why anonymity is important, because outside the ability to convey authority, sincerety, honesty, etc. through your words, the words of Anonymous should never be taken seriously.
You're missing the joke. There's no 'that' sven, it was a social-engineering sort of question geared to see what information would furnish it's self, you silly goose. There never was a 'that' Nigel, until one in particular became so.
Recently it became impressed on me the usefulness and versitility of having a hashed tripcode (cross-platform) so one may consider getting one of those, beyond whatever user names one may have incorporated in their social medias.
Having said, it was most effectively impressed upon me many moons ago by 32 million (the guy who killed this board one time because he was strong enough). What was it, endchan/sp/? The gets-ball lads. Anyway, his point was that especially with off-chans (if they prevail) you'll always have a core that maintains/perpetuates/ensures the perpetuity of the thing. In such cases, you can either pick a name, or you'll be given one when you distinguish yourself.
This is actually why anonymity is important, because outside the ability to convey authority, sincerety, honesty, etc. through your words, the words of Anonymous should never be taken seriously.
>>391351
>one's ability to not die is also relevant
It depends of the personal worldview, then as OP stated, fully redpilled anons are diametrically at odds with the bluepilled ones, and vice-versa; and these differences are irreversible and irreconcilable.
>one's ability to not die is also relevant
It depends of the personal worldview, then as OP stated, fully redpilled anons are diametrically at odds with the bluepilled ones, and vice-versa; and these differences are irreversible and irreconcilable.
>>391352
Speaking of Hitler, didn't he abscond to Argentina alongside a bunch of the nazis, and die of old age in his 70's, in spite of the official narrative?
Speaking of Hitler, didn't he abscond to Argentina alongside a bunch of the nazis, and die of old age in his 70's, in spite of the official narrative?
>>391355
>Ergo, more words of Anonymous not to be taken seriously.
Interesting. When and where anonymous said that?
>Ergo, more words of Anonymous not to be taken seriously.
Interesting. When and where anonymous said that?
>>391354
frequently repeated rumors. Like how Biden was executed and the guy in the movie-set of the oval office was a body double who just happened to have dementia too.
We all have heard that someone earnestly believes. Is the truth actually out there? I retain hope, but not faith for its appearance.
frequently repeated rumors. Like how Biden was executed and the guy in the movie-set of the oval office was a body double who just happened to have dementia too.
We all have heard that someone earnestly believes. Is the truth actually out there? I retain hope, but not faith for its appearance.
>>391359
He doesn't necessarily have to have dementia, he just has to act convincingly, which he has, whether actually true or not
He doesn't necessarily have to have dementia, he just has to act convincingly, which he has, whether actually true or not
>>391350
>frogposter
>asserting what is and isn't a psyop
Thank the Heritage Foundation for bringing about Total FrogPoster Death (TFPD) with the anti-vaxx shit.
>frogposter
>asserting what is and isn't a psyop
Thank the Heritage Foundation for bringing about Total FrogPoster Death (TFPD) with the anti-vaxx shit.
>>391368
>Oh nose the goim are seeing through the self-select mass suicide program, call them an antifa so they have to affirm their loyalty to the consensus.
>Meanwhile the pentagon got caught using the same shit as biowarfare against china.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/
I watched several of my friends drown to death because they bought the narrative that they should catch it on purpose to build immunity, and several more that caught it anyway. Literally the only people I can recall being friends with that are still alive are vaxxed.
Meanwhile the orange israelite's goons are trying to shill terpintine and raw milk, the latter most recently where they pretended to actually drink some (it's pasturized, obviously) in order to get their followers to die out faster. Honestly, good, the reasonable of the right will remain and overthrow. I'm not going to help make a pipeline to bring kids that could potentially grow up to contribute into the meat grinder, you are already getting paid for that, afterall.
>Oh nose the goim are seeing through the self-select mass suicide program, call them an antifa so they have to affirm their loyalty to the consensus.
>Meanwhile the pentagon got caught using the same shit as biowarfare against china.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/
I watched several of my friends drown to death because they bought the narrative that they should catch it on purpose to build immunity, and several more that caught it anyway. Literally the only people I can recall being friends with that are still alive are vaxxed.
Meanwhile the orange israelite's goons are trying to shill terpintine and raw milk, the latter most recently where they pretended to actually drink some (it's pasturized, obviously) in order to get their followers to die out faster. Honestly, good, the reasonable of the right will remain and overthrow. I'm not going to help make a pipeline to bring kids that could potentially grow up to contribute into the meat grinder, you are already getting paid for that, afterall.
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>>391370
>call them an antifa so they have to affirm their loyalty to the consensus
They have many names, but they are all harmful.
>call them an antifa so they have to affirm their loyalty to the consensus
They have many names, but they are all harmful.
This has been arguably the most successful anti-White psyop of all time. Managed to wipe out entire generations of bloodlines with nothing but words.
>mRNA Vaccines Linked to Catastrophic Ovarian Damage
>New study shows this fertility collapse may be permanent.
https://worldcouncilforhealth.substack.com/p/mrna-vaccines-linked-to-catastrophic
The study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12031016/
B-but depopulation is a conspiracy theory.
>New study shows this fertility collapse may be permanent.
https://worldcouncilforhealth.substack.com/p/mrna-vaccines-linked-to-catastrophic
The study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12031016/
B-but depopulation is a conspiracy theory.
>>391377
>[official sounding thing] for [thing]
>thinktank naming convention
>wikipedia's it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Council_for_Health
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense
>[official sounding thing] for [thing]
>thinktank naming convention
>wikipedia's it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Council_for_Health
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense
>>391380
You are pointing at the messenger (a blog) instead of the damning study bankrolled by the tax payers. If this is not a lame shilling and gaslighting I don't know what it is.
You are pointing at the messenger (a blog) instead of the damning study bankrolled by the tax payers. If this is not a lame shilling and gaslighting I don't know what it is.
>>391298
>My silence is because I'm gagged by the management
If that were true, you wouldn't be here.
>>391314
The real issue is that boards as small of this allow recurring fools to make clowns of themselves to the extent that everyone recognizes them, so it's not really anonymous.
>>391318
>The solution is to suck it up and take responsibility for what you consume online
That's not a solution at all. That doesn't solve the problem.
>>391329
This, tbh.
Dead Internet is getting closer and closer to undeniable reality.
>>391337
And do what? Have you seen /pol/? Even if you recognize bots, that doesn't make them go away. For every single poster smart enough to recognize them, there are 50 who take the bait, and it's only going to get worse.
>>391340
>The only disinfo they try that they seem to think works now days is flooding with garbage, the content doesn't matter just making sure the flow rate is higher than successful 'searches'.
This. It's particularly effective on anonymous imageboards.
>>391352
>fully redpilled anons are diametrically at odds with the bluepilled ones
I used to believe this, but not anymore, tbh. I've met too many "redpilled" /pol/acks who just believed in total garbage, and thought it was automatically true just because "they" told them it was false.
>>391370
>Meanwhile the orange israelite's goons are trying to shill terpintine and raw milk, the latter most recently where they pretended to actually drink some (it's pasturized, obviously) in order to get their followers to die out faster.
This is just stupid... It's literally irrelevant.
>>391376
What does this even have to do with the thread?
>>391377
Also not related to the OP
>My silence is because I'm gagged by the management
If that were true, you wouldn't be here.
>>391314
The real issue is that boards as small of this allow recurring fools to make clowns of themselves to the extent that everyone recognizes them, so it's not really anonymous.
>>391318
>The solution is to suck it up and take responsibility for what you consume online
That's not a solution at all. That doesn't solve the problem.
>>391329
This, tbh.
Dead Internet is getting closer and closer to undeniable reality.
>>391337
And do what? Have you seen /pol/? Even if you recognize bots, that doesn't make them go away. For every single poster smart enough to recognize them, there are 50 who take the bait, and it's only going to get worse.
>>391340
>The only disinfo they try that they seem to think works now days is flooding with garbage, the content doesn't matter just making sure the flow rate is higher than successful 'searches'.
This. It's particularly effective on anonymous imageboards.
>>391352
>fully redpilled anons are diametrically at odds with the bluepilled ones
I used to believe this, but not anymore, tbh. I've met too many "redpilled" /pol/acks who just believed in total garbage, and thought it was automatically true just because "they" told them it was false.
>>391370
>Meanwhile the orange israelite's goons are trying to shill terpintine and raw milk, the latter most recently where they pretended to actually drink some (it's pasturized, obviously) in order to get their followers to die out faster.
This is just stupid... It's literally irrelevant.
>>391376
What does this even have to do with the thread?
>>391377
Also not related to the OP
>>391382
>If that were true, you wouldn't be here.
This is a very good point. If this OP's subversion is allowed and probably vetted by the management (I don't see any meaningful push back), then this site is a honeypot.
>If that were true, you wouldn't be here.
This is a very good point. If this OP's subversion is allowed and probably vetted by the management (I don't see any meaningful push back), then this site is a honeypot.
>>391384
>then this site is a honeypot.
Maybe you should try ourchan. I hear it is a safe space for schizo retards.
>then this site is a honeypot.
Maybe you should try ourchan. I hear it is a safe space for schizo retards.
This thread has gone to shit. We were having an interesting conversation about the decline of online forums on the right until it was derailed by:
>If you drink raw milk, you're a lefty/shill/sheeple/glowie/bot!
>If you DON'T drink raw milk, you're a lefty/shill/sheeple/glowie/bot!
This is exactly what OP meant about purity spiralling conspiritards who cannot have a civil conversation about real substantial political issues because they can't stand the idea that others might not indulge their conspiracy theories. Surely, if someone does/doesn't drink raw milk, then that totally proves that they completely buy into the corrupt globohomo corpos controlling their health, amirite my fellow Qpedes?
It's all so tiresome.
>If you drink raw milk, you're a lefty/shill/sheeple/glowie/bot!
>If you DON'T drink raw milk, you're a lefty/shill/sheeple/glowie/bot!
This is exactly what OP meant about purity spiralling conspiritards who cannot have a civil conversation about real substantial political issues because they can't stand the idea that others might not indulge their conspiracy theories. Surely, if someone does/doesn't drink raw milk, then that totally proves that they completely buy into the corrupt globohomo corpos controlling their health, amirite my fellow Qpedes?
It's all so tiresome.
>>391382
>That's not a solution at all. That doesn't solve the problem
Because (you) expect others to take responsibility for you, ergo you ARE the problem. And you're right, I don't have a good solution for (you)
>Have you seen /pol/
Why would I? I abdicated years ago. Have you checked the url?
>That's not a solution at all. That doesn't solve the problem
Because (you) expect others to take responsibility for you, ergo you ARE the problem. And you're right, I don't have a good solution for (you)
>Have you seen /pol/
Why would I? I abdicated years ago. Have you checked the url?
>>391395
>Because (you) expect others to take responsibility for you, ergo you ARE the problem. And you're right, I don't have a good solution for (you)
It's not a question of personal behavior. Even if I don't engage with bots and retards, that doesn't prevent them from shitting up the board.
>Why would I? I abdicated years ago.
So then you don't know how bad it can be, and how bad this place could be if it were popular enough to draw attention.
>Because (you) expect others to take responsibility for you, ergo you ARE the problem. And you're right, I don't have a good solution for (you)
It's not a question of personal behavior. Even if I don't engage with bots and retards, that doesn't prevent them from shitting up the board.
>Why would I? I abdicated years ago.
So then you don't know how bad it can be, and how bad this place could be if it were popular enough to draw attention.
>>391381
They shared two things: the thinktank's article about what you should think about the study, and the study itself. The study is it's own messager because it's an article on the internet written in clinical tone and thus easy to read and do the research necessary to understand. I have bookmarked the article.
I immediately point out the thinktank because it had no reason to be there. At best it's an ad, and at worse it makes me question the integrity of the research of the article, meaning I'll have to look up every name on the abstract before I can fully trust they didn't fudge the numbers somehow.
>>391382
>This is just stupid... It's literally irrelevant.
Raw milk has a budget for advertisements and influencers, with Heritage Foundation names invloved. There's a clear pattern of HF affiliated influencers pushing shit that kills or injures:
https://www.reckon.news/news/2024/04/logan-pauls-prime-energy-drinks-contain-toxic-pfas-chemicals-lawsuit-alleges.html
or plunges people into further financial ruin (which also adversely effects one's health), like crypto.
Anti-vaxx is the same shit. Vaxxines definitely have an issue of a lack of oversight before deployment compared to other medicine, but I feel like the politicians involved in anti-vaxx shit are part of why those much needed regulations aren't in place:
1. impede institution from functioning optimally
2. point out the resulting bad, insist it inherent to any possible implementation of said institution and further dismantle it, with constant actionable threats to eliminate it.
Same tactice has been used against the postal service, schools, phones, libraries, ect...
>>391391
Yeah fair.
Honestly that's the psychological trap to it: Thinktanks constantly push conspiratorial narratives, and the nature of thinktanks means every time I hear a conspiracy theory with a hint of a money trail, it sends me into conspiratorial thought myself. And if the person on the other end isn't a shill then that's just a feedback loop of "no you!"
I suppose the real solution is not to be a debate addict about it, just do driveby skepticism and hope that's enough to ward off legit shills. I will never be able to prove that the other party is a shill so I shouldn't waste time on someone I suspect of such.
They shared two things: the thinktank's article about what you should think about the study, and the study itself. The study is it's own messager because it's an article on the internet written in clinical tone and thus easy to read and do the research necessary to understand. I have bookmarked the article.
I immediately point out the thinktank because it had no reason to be there. At best it's an ad, and at worse it makes me question the integrity of the research of the article, meaning I'll have to look up every name on the abstract before I can fully trust they didn't fudge the numbers somehow.
>>391382
>This is just stupid... It's literally irrelevant.
Raw milk has a budget for advertisements and influencers, with Heritage Foundation names invloved. There's a clear pattern of HF affiliated influencers pushing shit that kills or injures:
https://www.reckon.news/news/2024/04/logan-pauls-prime-energy-drinks-contain-toxic-pfas-chemicals-lawsuit-alleges.html
or plunges people into further financial ruin (which also adversely effects one's health), like crypto.
Anti-vaxx is the same shit. Vaxxines definitely have an issue of a lack of oversight before deployment compared to other medicine, but I feel like the politicians involved in anti-vaxx shit are part of why those much needed regulations aren't in place:
1. impede institution from functioning optimally
2. point out the resulting bad, insist it inherent to any possible implementation of said institution and further dismantle it, with constant actionable threats to eliminate it.
Same tactice has been used against the postal service, schools, phones, libraries, ect...
>>391391
Yeah fair.
Honestly that's the psychological trap to it: Thinktanks constantly push conspiratorial narratives, and the nature of thinktanks means every time I hear a conspiracy theory with a hint of a money trail, it sends me into conspiratorial thought myself. And if the person on the other end isn't a shill then that's just a feedback loop of "no you!"
I suppose the real solution is not to be a debate addict about it, just do driveby skepticism and hope that's enough to ward off legit shills. I will never be able to prove that the other party is a shill so I shouldn't waste time on someone I suspect of such.
>>391398
Lots to unpack, and ngl I stopped reading halfway.
If you don't know why raw milk is better by NOW?
Keep drinking pasteurized. It's mostly fine
>>391373
>doxx yourself
Who asked? You said people died, and expected anyone to care, so go on and make them ("us" but you'll get nowhere with me) *ahem* relevant.
Lots to unpack, and ngl I stopped reading halfway.
If you don't know why raw milk is better by NOW?
Keep drinking pasteurized. It's mostly fine
>>391373
>doxx yourself
Who asked? You said people died, and expected anyone to care, so go on and make them ("us" but you'll get nowhere with me) *ahem* relevant.
>>391398
You don't have to say their names, but next time (cuz NO ONE believes you) you want to parade corpses for good-boi points? Do try, it will work next time, I promise
You don't have to say their names, but next time (cuz NO ONE believes you) you want to parade corpses for good-boi points? Do try, it will work next time, I promise
>>391400
>If you don't know why sewage is better than water by NOW?
I rarely even drink milk, it's too sweet. It's nice if your throat hurts but there's less expensive sources of calcium like oranges. Orange concentrate keeps better in the freezer, and while you can freeze milk it fucks with the flavor too much.
>>391405
>I didn't tell you to doxx yourself or say anyone's names, just identifiable pictures that could be tied back to you
You could've wormed your way out but instead highlighted the glow of your prior statements.
>parade corpses
When anti-vaxx shit had proven time and time again to be a method of psychological-to-biological warfare to the point where it is a maundane thing to know people that've been killed by it. Saying you don't believe me is like saying you don't believe someone from Alberquerque knows people that have died in drive-bys.
>If you don't know why sewage is better than water by NOW?
I rarely even drink milk, it's too sweet. It's nice if your throat hurts but there's less expensive sources of calcium like oranges. Orange concentrate keeps better in the freezer, and while you can freeze milk it fucks with the flavor too much.
>>391405
>I didn't tell you to doxx yourself or say anyone's names, just identifiable pictures that could be tied back to you
You could've wormed your way out but instead highlighted the glow of your prior statements.
>parade corpses
When anti-vaxx shit had proven time and time again to be a method of psychological-to-biological warfare to the point where it is a maundane thing to know people that've been killed by it. Saying you don't believe me is like saying you don't believe someone from Alberquerque knows people that have died in drive-bys.
>>391407
and yes I am aware oranges are sweeter than milk, but it's sweet in a plant way, not a meat way. Milk is sweeter than the image of what milk should taste like in my head and it's unpleasant. Milk chocolate is nice tho.
and yes I am aware oranges are sweeter than milk, but it's sweet in a plant way, not a meat way. Milk is sweeter than the image of what milk should taste like in my head and it's unpleasant. Milk chocolate is nice tho.
>>391384
> If this OP's subversion is allowed and probably vetted by the management (I don't see any meaningful push back), then this site is a honeypot.
Oh, go fuck yourself. You have freer speech here than just about anywhere else online, and if you don’t like it you’re just as free to leave. Nobody is stopping you from spouting whatever kind of schizo retard nonsense you like. If you keep getting btfo because you have no idea what you’re talking about, though, don’t blame the management.
> If this OP's subversion is allowed and probably vetted by the management (I don't see any meaningful push back), then this site is a honeypot.
Oh, go fuck yourself. You have freer speech here than just about anywhere else online, and if you don’t like it you’re just as free to leave. Nobody is stopping you from spouting whatever kind of schizo retard nonsense you like. If you keep getting btfo because you have no idea what you’re talking about, though, don’t blame the management.
>>391407
Your disingenuity is unmistakable. Raw milk is superior on every front, ask me how I know.
Oh I won't answer, I expect you to do your due diligence (hint, it has to do with soluble proteins, active enzymes, and a whole bunch of other shit facebook didn't tell you)
>>391409
I'm genuinely curious what would happen WERE they to send their best
Your disingenuity is unmistakable. Raw milk is superior on every front, ask me how I know.
Oh I won't answer, I expect you to do your due diligence (hint, it has to do with soluble proteins, active enzymes, and a whole bunch of other shit facebook didn't tell you)
>>391409
I'm genuinely curious what would happen WERE they to send their best
>>390859
this is just faggy whining nonsense and a complete non-issue compared to what our enemies (the left) are all STILL currently at each other's throats over (Palestine). Just literally looking for a problem lmao like who the fuck cares
this is just faggy whining nonsense and a complete non-issue compared to what our enemies (the left) are all STILL currently at each other's throats over (Palestine). Just literally looking for a problem lmao like who the fuck cares
I remain unconvinced on the topic of OP's rambling mess and the continued derailment of this thread does not help, cuz this sort of thing only happens when either:
>one person is being a nonce on purpose
>everyone else already dismissed OP as a faggot
So, get fucked faggot OP.
>one person is being a nonce on purpose
>everyone else already dismissed OP as a faggot
So, get fucked faggot OP.
>>391413
don't pull rank on me because there's nothing else going on today, nigger faggot. you know what I mean.
don't pull rank on me because there's nothing else going on today, nigger faggot. you know what I mean.
>>391410
>facebook
Oh that explains it. My sole response is to check out the fediverse and it's many superior FOSS alternatives to Zuckerberg's wares.
Oh that explains it. My sole response is to check out the fediverse and it's many superior FOSS alternatives to Zuckerberg's wares.
>>391416
Then don't be using questionable/rhetorical terms like "our" if you're going to say basic-ass shit. It's neither endearing nor appreciable, it makes you sound like you're trying to ingratiate yourself, while affecting the opposite.
>>391417
For clarity, BoomBoom got his 'name' because all he tends to do is post Boomer-tier facebook memes and deflect from actual discussion.
Then don't be using questionable/rhetorical terms like "our" if you're going to say basic-ass shit. It's neither endearing nor appreciable, it makes you sound like you're trying to ingratiate yourself, while affecting the opposite.
>>391417
For clarity, BoomBoom got his 'name' because all he tends to do is post Boomer-tier facebook memes and deflect from actual discussion.
>>391418>>391418
>Then don't be using questionable/rhetorical terms like "our" if you're going to say basic-ass shit. It's neither endearing nor appreciable, it makes you sound like you're trying to ingratiate yourself, while affecting the opposite.
and this post makes you sound like a complete cunt faggot, so I guess were even. What the fuck happened to this place.
>Then don't be using questionable/rhetorical terms like "our" if you're going to say basic-ass shit. It's neither endearing nor appreciable, it makes you sound like you're trying to ingratiate yourself, while affecting the opposite.
and this post makes you sound like a complete cunt faggot, so I guess were even. What the fuck happened to this place.
>>391412
>this is just faggy whining nonsense
No, he has a very good point about idiots purity-spiraling and well-poisoning, which has a detrimental effect on online forums.
>non-issue compared to what our enemies (the left) are all STILL currently at each other's throats over (Palestine)
So just because leftists have AIDS, it's okay for "us" to have HIV? Just because its worse for other people doesn't mean it's okay for it to spread.
>leftists
This is really a false dichotomy. Conspiracies aren't inherently right wing.
A lot of these issues aren't even 'left vs right' in the first place. For example, things like vaccine skepticism used to be more of a thing that leftists cared about (the RFK types, and the Karens who actually thought essential oils are essential), but it became more of a libertarian/right issue after COVID when lefty governments became increasingly totalitarian and decided they only believed in bodily autonomy in the context of abortion alone. The essential oils crowd always had tinfoil-tier drooling retards among them, and some of them migrated to the right after COVID, even though there's plenty of legitimate reasons for vaccine skepticism.
>>391414
>the continued derailment of this thread does not help
I actually think the derailment of this thread has actually proved OPs point about the negative effects of conspiracy purity spiraling. As soon as examples of conspiracies were challenged, proponents of those conspiracies derailed the thread and started calling everyone who disagreed with them shills.
>this is just faggy whining nonsense
No, he has a very good point about idiots purity-spiraling and well-poisoning, which has a detrimental effect on online forums.
>non-issue compared to what our enemies (the left) are all STILL currently at each other's throats over (Palestine)
So just because leftists have AIDS, it's okay for "us" to have HIV? Just because its worse for other people doesn't mean it's okay for it to spread.
>leftists
This is really a false dichotomy. Conspiracies aren't inherently right wing.
A lot of these issues aren't even 'left vs right' in the first place. For example, things like vaccine skepticism used to be more of a thing that leftists cared about (the RFK types, and the Karens who actually thought essential oils are essential), but it became more of a libertarian/right issue after COVID when lefty governments became increasingly totalitarian and decided they only believed in bodily autonomy in the context of abortion alone. The essential oils crowd always had tinfoil-tier drooling retards among them, and some of them migrated to the right after COVID, even though there's plenty of legitimate reasons for vaccine skepticism.
>>391414
>the continued derailment of this thread does not help
I actually think the derailment of this thread has actually proved OPs point about the negative effects of conspiracy purity spiraling. As soon as examples of conspiracies were challenged, proponents of those conspiracies derailed the thread and started calling everyone who disagreed with them shills.
>>391418
>it makes you sound like you're trying to ingratiate yourself
And (You) sound like an egotistical faggot.
>it makes you sound like you're trying to ingratiate yourself
And (You) sound like an egotistical faggot.
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>>391256
Nice tu quoque deflection going on there, fuckboi. You always start with the victim mentality.
Never claimed to have !!SuPeR sEcReT kNoWlEdGe!! You must either be a sheep, a centrist shill, or too stupid to acknowledge 4 years of (((covid))) mass programming.
>thread topic starts with purity spiraling
>video PRESENTS A CURRENT PURITY SPIRAL
>whines about a single instance of proof
Wow. You know the left and right keys exist, correct?
>>391272
This man gets it.
>>391275
>wHAt'S yOuR sOuRcE!?
Why is it virtually impossible for a person to cross reference information in order to reach a conclusion of basic logic? Oh, you must be another lazy sack of ShareBlue shit. Or you just need more spoonfeeding.
Nice tu quoque deflection going on there, fuckboi. You always start with the victim mentality.
Never claimed to have !!SuPeR sEcReT kNoWlEdGe!! You must either be a sheep, a centrist shill, or too stupid to acknowledge 4 years of (((covid))) mass programming.
>thread topic starts with purity spiraling
>video PRESENTS A CURRENT PURITY SPIRAL
>whines about a single instance of proof
Wow. You know the left and right keys exist, correct?
>>391272
This man gets it.
>>391275
>wHAt'S yOuR sOuRcE!?
Why is it virtually impossible for a person to cross reference information in order to reach a conclusion of basic logic? Oh, you must be another lazy sack of ShareBlue shit. Or you just need more spoonfeeding.
>>391431
>spoonfeeding
That's for inside jokes and (worse case) board etiquitte, not the substance of a discussion. I have the bad habit of not linking stuff too but it's absurd to assert such malpractice as just.
I'm planning to make an HTML doc to sort links to sources for my opinions as a mindfulness excersize.
>spoonfeeding
That's for inside jokes and (worse case) board etiquitte, not the substance of a discussion. I have the bad habit of not linking stuff too but it's absurd to assert such malpractice as just.
I'm planning to make an HTML doc to sort links to sources for my opinions as a mindfulness excersize.
>>391451
>if I pretend to be smarter than other people then I shouldn't have to show evidence to back up my positions.
That's you. That's what you sound like.
>if I pretend to be smarter than other people then I shouldn't have to show evidence to back up my positions.
That's you. That's what you sound like.
>>391452
You seem to no appreciate that the lack of compliance has more to do with your demanding attitude than anyone's unwillingness.
You seem to no appreciate that the lack of compliance has more to do with your demanding attitude than anyone's unwillingness.
>>391452
Here's what I'll do.
Go to search, at the top.
Deselect everything but Mlpol
Enter "Covid" in the search bar
Click "OP text only"
Scroll past the recent shit, and you will find that Archived threads - the ones where all you would like to know - will show up further down the list. Look for Derpy I Am Science, I recall that one being decent. There's plenty of others, leading all the way back to when it first began, depending on when the archive was implemented
Here's what I'll do.
Go to search, at the top.
Deselect everything but Mlpol
Enter "Covid" in the search bar
Click "OP text only"
Scroll past the recent shit, and you will find that Archived threads - the ones where all you would like to know - will show up further down the list. Look for Derpy I Am Science, I recall that one being decent. There's plenty of others, leading all the way back to when it first began, depending on when the archive was implemented
>>391464
I can see why you didn't want to link sources. That thread literally links to a blog.
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/archive/364575#364575 if I look further back I can see obvious bullshit like germ theory denial.
I can see why you didn't want to link sources. That thread literally links to a blog.
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/archive/364575#364575 if I look further back I can see obvious bullshit like germ theory denial.
>>391468
So this means you're capable of following instructions! Now if you'll go back to the search results, KEEP SCROLLING and you will find THIS (you'll find #2 before that)
>>256683 →
So this means you're capable of following instructions! Now if you'll go back to the search results, KEEP SCROLLING and you will find THIS (you'll find #2 before that)
>>256683 →
>inb4 you could have done that to begin with
No, you had to be dragged through the process of using the search function. This has been a public service
No, you had to be dragged through the process of using the search function. This has been a public service
>>391470
You specified the "I am the science" thread as a good one and many of these threads are full of shit like germ theory denial. Why make someone wade through shit when you could make your case and give supporting evidence?
You specified the "I am the science" thread as a good one and many of these threads are full of shit like germ theory denial. Why make someone wade through shit when you could make your case and give supporting evidence?
I zoned out of the babbling, like, a damn week ago.
But I am enthralled so keep going bro.
But I am enthralled so keep going bro.
>>391473
Yes. I'm Ninjaz. I use subversive tactics. I'm still the asshole, and you're still the idiot
Yes. I'm Ninjaz. I use subversive tactics. I'm still the asshole, and you're still the idiot
>>391272
>Some facts, properly sourced.
Oh, cool, I love properly sourced facts. I'm going to use a sophisticated, high-tech tool called "google" to look into these, hope you don't mind.
>pic 1
This letter is about a bill in Texas currently going back and forth between the House and Senate. One of the provisions of the House version would require packaged food manufacturers to add warning labels to food containing "artificial colors, food additives, or other ingredients banned by Canada, the European Union, or the United Kingdom." Here is the complete bill if you want to dig through it:
https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB25/id/3133136
If this were to pass, all it would mean is that packaged foods containing these ingredients would have to have a warning label affixed to the package. It's worth noting that companies are already required to list ingredients on packaging, and anyone who wants to know what is in their food can just look. The only thing this would affect is whether or not there is a giant, obnoxious warning label on the front of the package.
My guess is that food companies are lobbying against this because these kinds of laws are a pain in the ass to comply with, and in the grand scheme of things they don't really do anything for public health. California already has a ton of similar laws in place, which should already tell you something. What this law would basically mean is that if Frito Lay wants to sell Doritos in Texas, then they need to redesign all their packaging to include a big, silly label informing people that there is Red Dye #5 or whatever the fuck inside. Best case scenario, it just adds extra cost to the process of manufacturing and packaging Doritos, and odds are that cost just will be passed on to the consumer through a price increase. But yeah, I guess if you live in Texas and having giant stupid labels on food is really important to you for whatever the fuck reason, by all means call your representative and let them know you support HB-25.
>pic 2
I don't even need to google anything here. This warning label simply informs the reader that 5G towers emit radiation that can cause problems if you stand within 100 ft of the tower for too long. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of 5G I guess, but it's straightforward enough. However, you go on to say:
>The roll out of 5G radiation was simultaneous with the covid psyop and flu like symptoms, exactly the same than covid.
You seem to be implying that, because 5G towers can cause "flu-like symptoms" and the towers started going up around the time of the pandemic, that symptoms attributed to COVID-19 were actually caused by 5G radiation. That's a pretty huge leap. This is another issue I have with conspiratards: they seem to draw a lot of their conclusions by connecting dots that don't necessarily connect. At the very least, it seems like if the government actually went to all the trouble of inventing a fake disease to cover up symptoms caused by 5G radiation, then they wouldn't also put warning labels about those very symptoms on the 5G towers; that would sort of defeat the whole point. Unless, of course, the whole point was just to scatter enough breadcrumbs to convince some terminally online retard to waste his life looking into stuff like this.
>pic 3
This one is bizarre enough that I felt some serious digging was warranted. Here's what I found:
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/6023
Here is the description:
>CDC has a fun new way of teaching the importance of emergency preparedness. Our new graphic novel, "Preparedness 101: Zombie Pandemic" demonstrates the importance of being prepared in an entertaining way that people of all ages will enjoy. Readers follow Todd, Julie, and their dog Max as a strange new disease begins spreading, turning ordinary people into zombies. Stick around to the end for a surprising twist that will drive home the importance of being prepared for any emergency. Included in the novel is a Preparedness Checklist so that readers can get their family, workplace, or school ready before disaster strikes.
So, in other words, this is a joke. The CDC is not providing serious instructions about preparing for a literal zombie apocalypse, the CDC published a comic book which uses a fictional story about a zombie pandemic as an instruction tool. In fact, if you look closely at your own screen shot, you will clearly see that the words "zombie graphic novel" appear directly under "Zombie Preparedness."
Also worth noting is that the listed publication date for this is 2011, when The Walking Dead would have been at the height of its popularity. Basically, this is the CDC piggybacking off of a pop culture phenomenon in order to teach disaster preparedness. That is all this is. Anyone who isn't a terminally online, gullible retard would be able to see this almost immediately.
In the 1930s, Orson Welles broadcast a radio play based on HG Wells's The War of the Worlds. It was obviously fiction, and presumably the producers thought that most people would realize this without being explicitly told, so they framed the story as a fake news broadcast. However, apparently some people heard the broadcast and thought it was actual news, so they packed up their belongings and fled into the hills to hide from the alien invaders. I remember reading about it in High School and wondering how on earth anyone could possibly be that fucking dumb. Now, having spent roughly a decade on the dumbest corners of the internet, listening to morons babble on and on about chemtrails and satanic child sacrifice cults... I no longer wonder.
>pic 4
This is literally just a screenshot of the CDC's contact information. I have no idea why you saw fit to include this here.
>Some facts, properly sourced.
Oh, cool, I love properly sourced facts. I'm going to use a sophisticated, high-tech tool called "google" to look into these, hope you don't mind.
>pic 1
This letter is about a bill in Texas currently going back and forth between the House and Senate. One of the provisions of the House version would require packaged food manufacturers to add warning labels to food containing "artificial colors, food additives, or other ingredients banned by Canada, the European Union, or the United Kingdom." Here is the complete bill if you want to dig through it:
https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB25/id/3133136
If this were to pass, all it would mean is that packaged foods containing these ingredients would have to have a warning label affixed to the package. It's worth noting that companies are already required to list ingredients on packaging, and anyone who wants to know what is in their food can just look. The only thing this would affect is whether or not there is a giant, obnoxious warning label on the front of the package.
My guess is that food companies are lobbying against this because these kinds of laws are a pain in the ass to comply with, and in the grand scheme of things they don't really do anything for public health. California already has a ton of similar laws in place, which should already tell you something. What this law would basically mean is that if Frito Lay wants to sell Doritos in Texas, then they need to redesign all their packaging to include a big, silly label informing people that there is Red Dye #5 or whatever the fuck inside. Best case scenario, it just adds extra cost to the process of manufacturing and packaging Doritos, and odds are that cost just will be passed on to the consumer through a price increase. But yeah, I guess if you live in Texas and having giant stupid labels on food is really important to you for whatever the fuck reason, by all means call your representative and let them know you support HB-25.
>pic 2
I don't even need to google anything here. This warning label simply informs the reader that 5G towers emit radiation that can cause problems if you stand within 100 ft of the tower for too long. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of 5G I guess, but it's straightforward enough. However, you go on to say:
>The roll out of 5G radiation was simultaneous with the covid psyop and flu like symptoms, exactly the same than covid.
You seem to be implying that, because 5G towers can cause "flu-like symptoms" and the towers started going up around the time of the pandemic, that symptoms attributed to COVID-19 were actually caused by 5G radiation. That's a pretty huge leap. This is another issue I have with conspiratards: they seem to draw a lot of their conclusions by connecting dots that don't necessarily connect. At the very least, it seems like if the government actually went to all the trouble of inventing a fake disease to cover up symptoms caused by 5G radiation, then they wouldn't also put warning labels about those very symptoms on the 5G towers; that would sort of defeat the whole point. Unless, of course, the whole point was just to scatter enough breadcrumbs to convince some terminally online retard to waste his life looking into stuff like this.
>pic 3
This one is bizarre enough that I felt some serious digging was warranted. Here's what I found:
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/6023
Here is the description:
>CDC has a fun new way of teaching the importance of emergency preparedness. Our new graphic novel, "Preparedness 101: Zombie Pandemic" demonstrates the importance of being prepared in an entertaining way that people of all ages will enjoy. Readers follow Todd, Julie, and their dog Max as a strange new disease begins spreading, turning ordinary people into zombies. Stick around to the end for a surprising twist that will drive home the importance of being prepared for any emergency. Included in the novel is a Preparedness Checklist so that readers can get their family, workplace, or school ready before disaster strikes.
So, in other words, this is a joke. The CDC is not providing serious instructions about preparing for a literal zombie apocalypse, the CDC published a comic book which uses a fictional story about a zombie pandemic as an instruction tool. In fact, if you look closely at your own screen shot, you will clearly see that the words "zombie graphic novel" appear directly under "Zombie Preparedness."
Also worth noting is that the listed publication date for this is 2011, when The Walking Dead would have been at the height of its popularity. Basically, this is the CDC piggybacking off of a pop culture phenomenon in order to teach disaster preparedness. That is all this is. Anyone who isn't a terminally online, gullible retard would be able to see this almost immediately.
In the 1930s, Orson Welles broadcast a radio play based on HG Wells's The War of the Worlds. It was obviously fiction, and presumably the producers thought that most people would realize this without being explicitly told, so they framed the story as a fake news broadcast. However, apparently some people heard the broadcast and thought it was actual news, so they packed up their belongings and fled into the hills to hide from the alien invaders. I remember reading about it in High School and wondering how on earth anyone could possibly be that fucking dumb. Now, having spent roughly a decade on the dumbest corners of the internet, listening to morons babble on and on about chemtrails and satanic child sacrifice cults... I no longer wonder.
>pic 4
This is literally just a screenshot of the CDC's contact information. I have no idea why you saw fit to include this here.
>>391479
Yes, it's very easy to be critical several years in the aftermath, but you're reading it "as it happened" where NO ONE 'knew' what the fuck.
At LEAST learn to TRY to contextualize the information you're consuming.
Yes, it's very easy to be critical several years in the aftermath, but you're reading it "as it happened" where NO ONE 'knew' what the fuck.
At LEAST learn to TRY to contextualize the information you're consuming.
We never DID get a good explanation for the people keeling over en masse in china, did we?
>>391482
More deadly strain in the beginning. Parasites tend towards an optimal virulence to help them spread. Too deadly and they will burn themselves out. Not deadly enough and they can't penetrate the host's defenses.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimal_virulence
More deadly strain in the beginning. Parasites tend towards an optimal virulence to help them spread. Too deadly and they will burn themselves out. Not deadly enough and they can't penetrate the host's defenses.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimal_virulence
>Wikipedia
>>391484
Would you prefer the journal evolutionary biology?
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1420-9101.2008.01658.x
It's from 2009. This isn't a new hypothesis.
Would you prefer the journal evolutionary biology?
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1420-9101.2008.01658.x
It's from 2009. This isn't a new hypothesis.
>>391479
>Anyone who isn't a terminally online, gullible retard would be able to see this almost immediately.
>That's a pretty huge leap. This is another issue I have with conspiratards: they seem to draw a lot of their conclusions by connecting dots that don't necessarily connect.
Yeah, correlation does not imply causation. It's a classic halfwit blunder. That is all this is.
>Basically, this is the CDC piggybacking off of a pop culture phenomenon in order to teach disaster preparedness.
Yeah. It's obvious at face value.
>In the 1930s, Orson Welles broadcast a radio play based on HG Wells's The War of the Worlds. It was obviously fiction, and presumably the producers thought that most people would realize this without being explicitly told, so they framed the story as a fake news broadcast. However, apparently some people heard the broadcast and thought it was actual news, so they packed up their belongings and fled into the hills to hide from the alien invaders. I remember reading about it in High School and wondering how on earth anyone could possibly be that fucking dumb. Now, having spent roughly a decade on the dumbest corners of the internet, listening to morons babble on and on about chemtrails and satanic child sacrifice cults... I no longer wonder.
I remember that too. People will believe anything without even stopping to think about it.
>>391483
Yeah. It's why diseases get weaker overtime, but more widespread. The subtler the disease, the more likely it is to spread to another.
>>391484
Do you have a counterargument, or not?
>Anyone who isn't a terminally online, gullible retard would be able to see this almost immediately.
>That's a pretty huge leap. This is another issue I have with conspiratards: they seem to draw a lot of their conclusions by connecting dots that don't necessarily connect.
Yeah, correlation does not imply causation. It's a classic halfwit blunder. That is all this is.
>Basically, this is the CDC piggybacking off of a pop culture phenomenon in order to teach disaster preparedness.
Yeah. It's obvious at face value.
>In the 1930s, Orson Welles broadcast a radio play based on HG Wells's The War of the Worlds. It was obviously fiction, and presumably the producers thought that most people would realize this without being explicitly told, so they framed the story as a fake news broadcast. However, apparently some people heard the broadcast and thought it was actual news, so they packed up their belongings and fled into the hills to hide from the alien invaders. I remember reading about it in High School and wondering how on earth anyone could possibly be that fucking dumb. Now, having spent roughly a decade on the dumbest corners of the internet, listening to morons babble on and on about chemtrails and satanic child sacrifice cults... I no longer wonder.
I remember that too. People will believe anything without even stopping to think about it.
>>391483
Yeah. It's why diseases get weaker overtime, but more widespread. The subtler the disease, the more likely it is to spread to another.
>>391484
Do you have a counterargument, or not?
>>391486
I remember having this discussion on /pol/ about the Ebola outbreak a decade ago. Ebola is not normally threatening enough to cause mass outbreaks, but that particular strain of Ebola has mutated to be less deadly, which meant its hosts survived long enough to spread (also ebola can spread post-mortem, which meant traditional African funerals where all family members touched the bodies became superspreader events).
I remember having this discussion on /pol/ about the Ebola outbreak a decade ago. Ebola is not normally threatening enough to cause mass outbreaks, but that particular strain of Ebola has mutated to be less deadly, which meant its hosts survived long enough to spread (also ebola can spread post-mortem, which meant traditional African funerals where all family members touched the bodies became superspreader events).
>>391487
Nothing that isn't rhetorical and pertaining to your character, no I don't have a counter-argument
Nothing that isn't rhetorical and pertaining to your character, no I don't have a counter-argument
>>391484
>wikipedia le bad
If you have an issue with the article's contents you can open a discussion there to improve it.
>wikipedia le bad
If you have an issue with the article's contents you can open a discussion there to improve it.
>>391557
Do you actually have an issue with the contents, or are you just wasting our time?
The other guy posted a 2009 study. Read that.
Do you actually have an issue with the contents, or are you just wasting our time?
The other guy posted a 2009 study. Read that.
>>391559
The problem is that it's one potential explanation out of dozens, among which this one simply doesn't seem as plausible when taken in conjunction of how events transpired. Remember the 'Summer of Love' riots?
I don't have any authority on which to say that's not a possibility, I'm saying I don't buy it.
>>391565
>almost as many
Please, only Nigel can compete
The problem is that it's one potential explanation out of dozens, among which this one simply doesn't seem as plausible when taken in conjunction of how events transpired. Remember the 'Summer of Love' riots?
I don't have any authority on which to say that's not a possibility, I'm saying I don't buy it.
>>391565
>almost as many
Please, only Nigel can compete
>>391557
Which sources does the wikipedia article use that you have qualms with? Wikipedia is basically a manually indexed and summarised search engine, it isn't the source itself, but it is a credible source of sources.
Which sources does the wikipedia article use that you have qualms with? Wikipedia is basically a manually indexed and summarised search engine, it isn't the source itself, but it is a credible source of sources.
>>391569
>Remember the 'Summer of Love' riots?
Why would shitlibs and niggers fucking shit up discredit optimal virulence?
>Remember the 'Summer of Love' riots?
Why would shitlibs and niggers fucking shit up discredit optimal virulence?
>>391572
They don't, in fact they kind-of make the idea somewhat ridiculous, in fact. The summer of love is when people just over THERE were dropping dead "from Covid". But apparently, Covid is less virulent when niggers are mad about a stupid nigger dying?
They don't, in fact they kind-of make the idea somewhat ridiculous, in fact. The summer of love is when people just over THERE were dropping dead "from Covid". But apparently, Covid is less virulent when niggers are mad about a stupid nigger dying?
Confusing phrasing, allow me to clarify.
On the one hand, you have people in China who are seemingly dying in the streets. Super virulent, right?
Except you also have rioting libtards, who seem to have some sort of immunity.
it's weird right? Almost like someone is lying.
On the one hand, you have people in China who are seemingly dying in the streets. Super virulent, right?
Except you also have rioting libtards, who seem to have some sort of immunity.
it's weird right? Almost like someone is lying.
>>391586
Or RNA viruses evolve fast and the shitlibs were in better health than chinks living in smog.
Or RNA viruses evolve fast and the shitlibs were in better health than chinks living in smog.
>>391585
>The summer of love is when people just over THERE were dropping dead "from Covid". But apparently, Covid is less virulent when niggers are mad about a stupid nigger dying?
What makes you say it was less virulent when the niggers were rioting?
The virus never had more than 0.1% kill rate in the first place. It just looked like it was higher because it infected so many people (99.9% of which only got a cold).
>The summer of love is when people just over THERE were dropping dead "from Covid". But apparently, Covid is less virulent when niggers are mad about a stupid nigger dying?
What makes you say it was less virulent when the niggers were rioting?
The virus never had more than 0.1% kill rate in the first place. It just looked like it was higher because it infected so many people (99.9% of which only got a cold).
What the fuck am I reading anymore.
Not that I want it to stop, it's at least marginally more intriguing that OP's shit that just isn't happening.
Not that I want it to stop, it's at least marginally more intriguing that OP's shit that just isn't happening.
>>391587
You're going to have to substantiate and validate that position with FACTS
... is what I would say if I were some of the interlocutors ITT.
Meanwhile, thats statistically ludicrous. That's like saying "Yeah, covid killed hella people, they were literally falling over in the streets,... but the Chinese absorbed all of the fatal Covid, what we got was the watered-down version".
Is that your argument, or am I misrepresenting your stupidity?
You're going to have to substantiate and validate that position with FACTS
... is what I would say if I were some of the interlocutors ITT.
Meanwhile, thats statistically ludicrous. That's like saying "Yeah, covid killed hella people, they were literally falling over in the streets,... but the Chinese absorbed all of the fatal Covid, what we got was the watered-down version".
Is that your argument, or am I misrepresenting your stupidity?
Anyone have a quick tally of how many covid "variants" (((they))) announced?
>>391591
>they were literally falling over in the streets
This never happened. The fatality rate was never above 0.1%.
>they were literally falling over in the streets
This never happened. The fatality rate was never above 0.1%.
>>391591
Sorry. I forget that what is common knowledge in a sophomore biology classroom is not common knowledge elsewhere.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6107253/
Why are RNA virus mutation rates so damn high?
>RNA viruses have high mutation rates—up to a million times higher than their hosts—and these high rates are correlated with enhanced virulence and evolvability, traits considered beneficial for viruses. However, their mutation rates are almost disastrously high, and a small increase in mutation rate can cause RNA viruses to go locally extinct. Researchers often assume that natural selection has optimized the mutation rate of RNA viruses, but new data shows that, in poliovirus, selection for faster replication is stronger and faster polymerases make more mistakes. The fabled mutation rates of RNA viruses appear to be partially a consequence of selection on another trait, not because such a high mutation rate is optimal in and of itself.
Sorry. I forget that what is common knowledge in a sophomore biology classroom is not common knowledge elsewhere.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6107253/
Why are RNA virus mutation rates so damn high?
>RNA viruses have high mutation rates—up to a million times higher than their hosts—and these high rates are correlated with enhanced virulence and evolvability, traits considered beneficial for viruses. However, their mutation rates are almost disastrously high, and a small increase in mutation rate can cause RNA viruses to go locally extinct. Researchers often assume that natural selection has optimized the mutation rate of RNA viruses, but new data shows that, in poliovirus, selection for faster replication is stronger and faster polymerases make more mistakes. The fabled mutation rates of RNA viruses appear to be partially a consequence of selection on another trait, not because such a high mutation rate is optimal in and of itself.
>>391591
Yes I am saying chinks initially had a deadlier version of the virus and given that they were the first to do the lockdowns that is supported by what we saw. Now obviously it wasn't black death levels of lethality in the beginning, but it could explain some of the collapses.
>>391592
I like how you admit there were several new strains during the course of the pandemic but the idea that RNA viruses can mutate is just crazy talk.
Yes I am saying chinks initially had a deadlier version of the virus and given that they were the first to do the lockdowns that is supported by what we saw. Now obviously it wasn't black death levels of lethality in the beginning, but it could explain some of the collapses.
>>391592
I like how you admit there were several new strains during the course of the pandemic but the idea that RNA viruses can mutate is just crazy talk.
>>391595
The lethality of the chink variant likely wasn't that severe either. People were just freaking out and spreading rumors because nobody knew how deadly it was in those first couple months. Meanwhile the Chinks were welding people in their homes and and other apocalypse-tier bullshit because that's just what communists do.
The lethality of the chink variant likely wasn't that severe either. People were just freaking out and spreading rumors because nobody knew how deadly it was in those first couple months. Meanwhile the Chinks were welding people in their homes and and other apocalypse-tier bullshit because that's just what communists do.
>>391593
You didn't notice the chinese people falling over in the streets??
This is why you're not taken seriously
You didn't notice the chinese people falling over in the streets??
This is why you're not taken seriously
>>391595
No, I admit (((they))) told you there were various strains, because not enough of you goyim were getting the jab, which they assured you the vaccine would be effective against, even though the 'variant' is newer than the vaccine
No, I admit (((they))) told you there were various strains, because not enough of you goyim were getting the jab, which they assured you the vaccine would be effective against, even though the 'variant' is newer than the vaccine
>>391598
The flu virus is another RNA virus and there are new strains of that all the time. Why is an RNA virus mutating so hard to believe?
The flu virus is another RNA virus and there are new strains of that all the time. Why is an RNA virus mutating so hard to believe?
>>391600
So, you now have the burden of proof to explain how people literally collapsing in the streets, to how "it's just like the flu".
Go on, explain how THAT level of viral depletion makes sense.
So, you now have the burden of proof to explain how people literally collapsing in the streets, to how "it's just like the flu".
Go on, explain how THAT level of viral depletion makes sense.
>>391601
It's "just like the flu" in the sense that it is an RNA virus. There are several RNA viruses influenza, covid, HIV, ebola, rabies, ect. I just linked you a paper on how these frequently mutate. You understand that some viruses store their information in DNA and other in RNA, right?
It's "just like the flu" in the sense that it is an RNA virus. There are several RNA viruses influenza, covid, HIV, ebola, rabies, ect. I just linked you a paper on how these frequently mutate. You understand that some viruses store their information in DNA and other in RNA, right?
Was it you or another one who was crying about citations?
The reason I (and many others) don't care for citations is because it's not about proof, it's about plausibility in a realistic sense (not some "they wouldn't do that!" sort of naivete).
Most people don't have the time or care to exhaustively research anything outside their immediate field (and many, not even that).
So, for a realistic anon who ISN'T shilling dysfunctional negativity (back to that in a moment), (you) have an obligation to read and assimilate all the things.
Quit your crying, we all volunteered for this when we decided to think rationally.
Once you have read all the things, it is your DUTY to engage in NEGATIVITY and begin to prune the things that "simply aren't possible".
I know, you're new at this, but it becomes reflexive over time.
The reason I (and many others) don't care for citations is because it's not about proof, it's about plausibility in a realistic sense (not some "they wouldn't do that!" sort of naivete).
Most people don't have the time or care to exhaustively research anything outside their immediate field (and many, not even that).
So, for a realistic anon who ISN'T shilling dysfunctional negativity (back to that in a moment), (you) have an obligation to read and assimilate all the things.
Quit your crying, we all volunteered for this when we decided to think rationally.
Once you have read all the things, it is your DUTY to engage in NEGATIVITY and begin to prune the things that "simply aren't possible".
I know, you're new at this, but it becomes reflexive over time.
>>391601
>So, you now have the burden of proof to explain how people literally collapsing in the streets, to how "it's just like the flu".
The people with the strongest strain died before they could pass it on. It can happen very quickly, at least as quickly as the virus kills people.
>So, you now have the burden of proof to explain how people literally collapsing in the streets, to how "it's just like the flu".
The people with the strongest strain died before they could pass it on. It can happen very quickly, at least as quickly as the virus kills people.
>>391602
For the record, I'm not trying to "win" this debate, I'm just making you make more and more idiotic statements
For the record, I'm not trying to "win" this debate, I'm just making you make more and more idiotic statements
>>391603
>it's not about proof, it's about plausibility in a realistic sense
This is Facebook-schizo logic. Back up your claims.
>Most people don't have the time or care to exhaustively research anything outside their immediate field
Which is why they're all such easily-fooled idiots.
Learn to read.
>it's not about proof, it's about plausibility in a realistic sense
This is Facebook-schizo logic. Back up your claims.
>Most people don't have the time or care to exhaustively research anything outside their immediate field
Which is why they're all such easily-fooled idiots.
Learn to read.
>>391610
>yes
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a confirmed ignorant idiot who DOESN'T know (cuz he didn't read the covid threads) that the Covid molecule has NEVER been identified, and the molecule that's been presented was created as a theoretical model of something that remains unseen, even though the molecular size is reported to be large enough to be seen in your average high-school microscope.
Does that sound plausible to you? If so, you're I was gonna say plausibly, but at this point it's illustrative retarded
>yes
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a confirmed ignorant idiot who DOESN'T know (cuz he didn't read the covid threads) that the Covid molecule has NEVER been identified, and the molecule that's been presented was created as a theoretical model of something that remains unseen, even though the molecular size is reported to be large enough to be seen in your average high-school microscope.
Does that sound plausible to you? If so, you're I was gonna say plausibly, but at this point it's illustrative retarded
>>391610
>people died, that's why people stopped dying
Viruses don't just go from killing everyone to killing only the elderly and whoever is convenient.
>8 years
Okay, that's a lie, cuz otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. You would know all the links and sources, you would have at LEAST been PRESENT for the discussions, none of this would have been necessary.
>whataboutism
You mean like your insistance on concepts that viruses can degrade? Yes, it's medically established. Is there any reason - aside from conjecture - that this is the case? Because without evidence, your conjecture has as much weight as mine
>people died, that's why people stopped dying
Viruses don't just go from killing everyone to killing only the elderly and whoever is convenient.
>8 years
Okay, that's a lie, cuz otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. You would know all the links and sources, you would have at LEAST been PRESENT for the discussions, none of this would have been necessary.
>whataboutism
You mean like your insistance on concepts that viruses can degrade? Yes, it's medically established. Is there any reason - aside from conjecture - that this is the case? Because without evidence, your conjecture has as much weight as mine
>>391603
>we all volunteered for this when we decided to think rationally.
You didn't start thinking rationally though. You just gulped down whatever retarded conspiracy made you feel the most special. I've seen these threads propose mechanism that don't really make a lot of sense for how the vax will cause everyone to drop dead x amount of years later. Reverse transcription through LINE1 doesn't make a lot of sense when LINE1 is heavily suppressed or outright turned off in normal cells. Very active in cancer cells though, in which the study was done.
>we all volunteered for this when we decided to think rationally.
You didn't start thinking rationally though. You just gulped down whatever retarded conspiracy made you feel the most special. I've seen these threads propose mechanism that don't really make a lot of sense for how the vax will cause everyone to drop dead x amount of years later. Reverse transcription through LINE1 doesn't make a lot of sense when LINE1 is heavily suppressed or outright turned off in normal cells. Very active in cancer cells though, in which the study was done.
>>391614
Here I'm going to do you a favor, ninja. This is an entry level biology textbook from before pandemic. I would recommend the most recent version, but somehow I doubt you would be willing to look at anything published after covid. It's a great resource for learning the basics. It has sections on cells, viruses, and basic genetics. It even goes over retrotransposons.
https://annas-archive.org/md5/42f6cd8c7ba386007bc87b29e3b9c1b0
Here I'm going to do you a favor, ninja. This is an entry level biology textbook from before pandemic. I would recommend the most recent version, but somehow I doubt you would be willing to look at anything published after covid. It's a great resource for learning the basics. It has sections on cells, viruses, and basic genetics. It even goes over retrotransposons.
https://annas-archive.org/md5/42f6cd8c7ba386007bc87b29e3b9c1b0
>>391611
They have identified several RNA strains. Idk what else you expect.
>Viruses don't just go from killing everyone to killing only the elderly
Yes they do. Did you read that study? Deadly viruses burn themselves out, so weaker strains become endemic annoyances.
>That's a lie
I don't really care if you believe me.
>You would know all the links and sources, you would have at LEAST been PRESENT for the discussions
I was present for all of those discussions, although I did begin to tune them out a couple years back when you and the with your circular shitposting.
I used to make at least three threads a week on this board, but these days I find it hard to even bother because I know that retards like you are going to derail it while driving off all of the other users with interesting things to say.
>You mean like your insistance on concepts that viruses can degrade?
That's not what whataboutism means.
Also, viruses don't "degrade", they become more efficient. A virus's only goal is to spread itself, and killing its host too quickly is contrary to that goal, so they trend towards optimal virulence to achieve endemic status.
>Is there any reason - aside from conjecture - that this is the case?
Read the 2009 study and check the citations. It's well documented.
They have identified several RNA strains. Idk what else you expect.
>Viruses don't just go from killing everyone to killing only the elderly
Yes they do. Did you read that study? Deadly viruses burn themselves out, so weaker strains become endemic annoyances.
>That's a lie
I don't really care if you believe me.
>You would know all the links and sources, you would have at LEAST been PRESENT for the discussions
I was present for all of those discussions, although I did begin to tune them out a couple years back when you and the with your circular shitposting.
I used to make at least three threads a week on this board, but these days I find it hard to even bother because I know that retards like you are going to derail it while driving off all of the other users with interesting things to say.
>You mean like your insistance on concepts that viruses can degrade?
That's not what whataboutism means.
Also, viruses don't "degrade", they become more efficient. A virus's only goal is to spread itself, and killing its host too quickly is contrary to that goal, so they trend towards optimal virulence to achieve endemic status.
>Is there any reason - aside from conjecture - that this is the case?
Read the 2009 study and check the citations. It's well documented.
>>391616
>I used to make at least three threads a week on this board, but these days I find it hard to even bother because I know that retards like you are going to derail it while driving off all of the other users with interesting things to say.
It's ninjas, boom boom, and shart schizo. Everyone who disagrees with their retardation is a SHILL!
>I used to make at least three threads a week on this board, but these days I find it hard to even bother because I know that retards like you are going to derail it while driving off all of the other users with interesting things to say.
It's ninjas, boom boom, and shart schizo. Everyone who disagrees with their retardation is a SHILL!
>>391617
Ikr. We used to have a good thing going on here, but retards decided to chase out everyone through sheer volume of shitposting just so that they could feel like king of the trash pile.
Ikr. We used to have a good thing going on here, but retards decided to chase out everyone through sheer volume of shitposting just so that they could feel like king of the trash pile.
>>391618
And it's only like 3 people. Funny thing is I'm sure these retards tell themselves they are saving the site by shouting shill at every other post. If mods simply enforced honest debates and banned thought terminating clichés this place would have become something a lot more lively.
And it's only like 3 people. Funny thing is I'm sure these retards tell themselves they are saving the site by shouting shill at every other post. If mods simply enforced honest debates and banned thought terminating clichés this place would have become something a lot more lively.
>>391619
>And it's only like 3 people.
It's painfully obvious too, so obvious that any infrequent poster would get the feeling that they're just arguing with the same three retards over and over, and promptly conclude that /mlpol/ has little to offer them over any other site.
>If mods simply enforced honest debates and banned thought terminating clichés this place would have become something a lot more lively.
There should at least be a writ against derailing threads.
>And it's only like 3 people.
It's painfully obvious too, so obvious that any infrequent poster would get the feeling that they're just arguing with the same three retards over and over, and promptly conclude that /mlpol/ has little to offer them over any other site.
>If mods simply enforced honest debates and banned thought terminating clichés this place would have become something a lot more lively.
There should at least be a writ against derailing threads.
>>391616
>they identified several strains
Funny, the evidence is not forthcoming
.deadly viruses burn out
That fast? That would be impressive if you could indicate it. Should be easy, since there's been a number of precedented cases.
>I was present
X
>it's ur fault I don't
X
>that's not what whataboutism means
What do you think it means, other than "What about this example/thing/other"?
>read the 2009 study
>muh pwecious study
Is as I've said, one - admittedly plausible - explanation for what happened during Covid that I find to be equal parts laughable and unconvincing. Are you required to agree? No! Am I required to convince you? No! Am I required to convince you, because - coming from me - you're insufferable, NO.
>they identified several strains
Funny, the evidence is not forthcoming
.deadly viruses burn out
That fast? That would be impressive if you could indicate it. Should be easy, since there's been a number of precedented cases.
>I was present
X
>it's ur fault I don't
X
>that's not what whataboutism means
What do you think it means, other than "What about this example/thing/other"?
>read the 2009 study
>muh pwecious study
Is as I've said, one - admittedly plausible - explanation for what happened during Covid that I find to be equal parts laughable and unconvincing. Are you required to agree? No! Am I required to convince you? No! Am I required to convince you, because - coming from me - you're insufferable, NO.
Remember when smallpox required a vaccine to be cured? How about polio?
But apparently, all that's required to cure Covid is people in China keeling over, while niggers riot in the US.
Does that sound plausible to you?
But apparently, all that's required to cure Covid is people in China keeling over, while niggers riot in the US.
Does that sound plausible to you?
>>391621
I bet we are insufferable. We just told you that you aren't a special boy. You wanna read the biology textbook it's available at the link I provided.
I bet we are insufferable. We just told you that you aren't a special boy. You wanna read the biology textbook it's available at the link I provided.
>>391620
I really like the idea of banning thought terminating clichés because the most retarded people rely on them for winning arguments. Not to mention the previously mentioned retards were all permanently banned at one point. Just enforcing a rule like that would keep them out.
I really like the idea of banning thought terminating clichés because the most retarded people rely on them for winning arguments. Not to mention the previously mentioned retards were all permanently banned at one point. Just enforcing a rule like that would keep them out.
>>391621
>the evidence is not forthcoming
It's literally genetically sequenced. Look it up.
>That fast?
If it kills quickly, yes.
>indicate it. Should be easy, since there's been a number of precedented cases.
Have you read the 2009 study yet?
>X
Don't care.
>What do you think it means, other than "What about this example/thing/other"?
It means
>the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.
In that is basically distracts from an argument by bringing up an irrelevant argument, or just accusing the other side of hypocrisy without addressing the criticism itself.
>>muh pwecious study
So you didn't read it. Cool.
That is the example/evidence you keep asking people for. Finish reading it before you ask for additional examples.
Or read the biology textbook anon posted. Quit asking for evidence of you won't even read the evidence we give you.
>Remember when smallpox required a vaccine to be cured? How about polio?
Polio and smallpox were not "cured", they were eradicated. A vaccine alone isn't enough to eradicate a disease, it requires drastic long term planning to track down and isolate infected people.
>But apparently, all that's required to cure Covid is people in China keeling over, while niggers riot in the US.
It wasn't cured, nor was it eradicated.
And it was still around when the niggers were rioting.
Optimal Vitality has nothing to do with "curing".
>the evidence is not forthcoming
It's literally genetically sequenced. Look it up.
>That fast?
If it kills quickly, yes.
>indicate it. Should be easy, since there's been a number of precedented cases.
Have you read the 2009 study yet?
>X
Don't care.
>What do you think it means, other than "What about this example/thing/other"?
It means
>the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.
In that is basically distracts from an argument by bringing up an irrelevant argument, or just accusing the other side of hypocrisy without addressing the criticism itself.
>>muh pwecious study
So you didn't read it. Cool.
That is the example/evidence you keep asking people for. Finish reading it before you ask for additional examples.
Or read the biology textbook anon posted. Quit asking for evidence of you won't even read the evidence we give you.
>Remember when smallpox required a vaccine to be cured? How about polio?
Polio and smallpox were not "cured", they were eradicated. A vaccine alone isn't enough to eradicate a disease, it requires drastic long term planning to track down and isolate infected people.
>But apparently, all that's required to cure Covid is people in China keeling over, while niggers riot in the US.
It wasn't cured, nor was it eradicated.
And it was still around when the niggers were rioting.
Optimal Vitality has nothing to do with "curing".
>>391625
>Quit asking for evidence of you won't even read the evidence we give you.
This is probably the most infuriating part of dealing with retards especially with the vaxx debate is the retards never read the studies that they link let alone the ones presenting counter arguments. I have had times where people would link papers supporting my argument.
>Quit asking for evidence of you won't even read the evidence we give you.
This is probably the most infuriating part of dealing with retards especially with the vaxx debate is the retards never read the studies that they link let alone the ones presenting counter arguments. I have had times where people would link papers supporting my argument.
>>391623
Oh, I'm infamously insufferable
>>391624
>I really like the idea of banning thought
I know where you were GOING with that, but I still fixed it for you
>Finish reading it
Is precisely what I said about the previous discussion threads that "you were around for"
>It wasn't cured, nor was it eradicated
It was the fucking flu, you ponce
Oh, I'm infamously insufferable
>>391624
>I really like the idea of banning thought
I know where you were GOING with that, but I still fixed it for you
>Finish reading it
Is precisely what I said about the previous discussion threads that "you were around for"
>It wasn't cured, nor was it eradicated
It was the fucking flu, you ponce
>>391629
>Is precisely what I said about the previous discussion threads that "you were around for"
Okay, now do the same. Read the evidence posters gave you after you asked for it.
>It was the fucking flu, you ponce
I never said it was anything but a flu. It's a corona virus, aka a flu/cold.
>Is precisely what I said about the previous discussion threads that "you were around for"
Okay, now do the same. Read the evidence posters gave you after you asked for it.
>It was the fucking flu, you ponce
I never said it was anything but a flu. It's a corona virus, aka a flu/cold.
>>391629
>Oh, I'm infamously insufferable
Because you have the downs.
>I know where you were GOING with that, but I still fixed it for you
How does screaming shill/racist/sexist/fed/xphobe/heretic add anything to a discussion?
>Oh, I'm infamously insufferable
Because you have the downs.
>I know where you were GOING with that, but I still fixed it for you
How does screaming shill/racist/sexist/fed/xphobe/heretic add anything to a discussion?
Let me guess
>people die from the flu all the time
NOT WHILE WALKING IN THE STREETS
>people die from the flu all the time
NOT WHILE WALKING IN THE STREETS
>>391634
>I don't get how you can declare that covid is enough to make people drop dead, while at the same time being the cold/flu
1. I never claimed it was making people drop dead. You claimed that
2. I also did not claim that it was happening at the same time. I claimed the opposite of that, agreeing with the other Anon's explanation of optimal virulence making diseases less deadly overtime.
3. It is literally a cold/flu. It is in the same category of viruses.
>Why is that?
Just curious, were you beaten, or abused, or molested or neglected as a child? Or any other factors that would contribute to your infantile, damaged, troon-esque behavior?
>>391635
What is even the source of this "walking in streets" claim?
>I don't get how you can declare that covid is enough to make people drop dead, while at the same time being the cold/flu
1. I never claimed it was making people drop dead. You claimed that
2. I also did not claim that it was happening at the same time. I claimed the opposite of that, agreeing with the other Anon's explanation of optimal virulence making diseases less deadly overtime.
3. It is literally a cold/flu. It is in the same category of viruses.
>Why is that?
Just curious, were you beaten, or abused, or molested or neglected as a child? Or any other factors that would contribute to your infantile, damaged, troon-esque behavior?
>>391635
What is even the source of this "walking in streets" claim?
>>391597
This. When confronted with that, all covidians got suddenly silent and switch to another angle and convoluted mental gymnastics to demonstrate they are right.
>>391607
>Has the covid molecule even been identified?
Same shit. Covidians won't touch this with a 20 feet pole.
>>391610
>I've been here for 8 years, idiot.
And you learnt nothing.
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Pic dedicated to all educated and smart covidians.
This. When confronted with that, all covidians got suddenly silent and switch to another angle and convoluted mental gymnastics to demonstrate they are right.
>>391607
>Has the covid molecule even been identified?
Same shit. Covidians won't touch this with a 20 feet pole.
>>391610
>I've been here for 8 years, idiot.
And you learnt nothing.
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Pic dedicated to all educated and smart covidians.
>>391636
>You claimed that
No, I observed it as it was happening. Livestreams and shit
>did not claim that it was happening at the same time
No, I claimed that
>It is literally a cold/flu. It is in the same category of viruses
You just made my argument for me. John Travolta in Pulp Fiction.
(funny note about fiction, it's a lie)
Speaking of fictions, your position appears to be that what killed off Chinese people in the streets was 'weakened' by all the chinese deaths, such that the rest of the world went nominally unaffected?
>You claimed that
No, I observed it as it was happening. Livestreams and shit
>did not claim that it was happening at the same time
No, I claimed that
>It is literally a cold/flu. It is in the same category of viruses
You just made my argument for me. John Travolta in Pulp Fiction.
(funny note about fiction, it's a lie)
Speaking of fictions, your position appears to be that what killed off Chinese people in the streets was 'weakened' by all the chinese deaths, such that the rest of the world went nominally unaffected?
>>391637
What even is a "Covidian" to you? I never claimed the virus was deadly, I opposed lockdowns, and I didn't take the vaxx.
What even is a "Covidian" to you? I never claimed the virus was deadly, I opposed lockdowns, and I didn't take the vaxx.
>>391637
And don't you start getting cute with phrases like "Covidians", this isn't about choosing sides. This is about "absorb the material and make a determination for youself, and be okay with that".
Now, if you want to assert that your perspective is "better" or "more correct" than another person's, that's where you run into a problem.
>>391640
Oh, let me check the CCP's listing for covid mortality, I'm sure it's accurate,...
And don't you start getting cute with phrases like "Covidians", this isn't about choosing sides. This is about "absorb the material and make a determination for youself, and be okay with that".
Now, if you want to assert that your perspective is "better" or "more correct" than another person's, that's where you run into a problem.
>>391640
Oh, let me check the CCP's listing for covid mortality, I'm sure it's accurate,...
>>391640
>What are you talking about? Are you claiming that it was making people drop dead in the streets? Because I never said that.
I'm saying that people dropping dead on the streets in China was theater, a staged psyop with all governments of the world falling in line with an invisible centralized, command. And those few African countries who didn't, their leaders were quickly dead. Noteworthy is the case of Belarus, the president didn't lock down and didn't play the music, but he was left alone.
>What are you talking about? Are you claiming that it was making people drop dead in the streets? Because I never said that.
I'm saying that people dropping dead on the streets in China was theater, a staged psyop with all governments of the world falling in line with an invisible centralized, command. And those few African countries who didn't, their leaders were quickly dead. Noteworthy is the case of Belarus, the president didn't lock down and didn't play the music, but he was left alone.
>>391642
>Oh, let me check the CCP's listing for covid mortality, I'm sure it's accurate,...
Or any source of information.
Globohomo faggots were fearmongering about it as an excuse to lock down everything and reset our economies, but even in 2019 the lethality rate was less than 1% for healthy people who caught it.
A handful of people dying on livestreams does not mean the virus was killing people in mass.
>>391643
>I'm saying that people dropping dead on the streets in China was theater, a staged psyop with all governments of the world falling in line with an invisible centralized, command.
Alright then. I agree completely.
>Oh, let me check the CCP's listing for covid mortality, I'm sure it's accurate,...
Or any source of information.
Globohomo faggots were fearmongering about it as an excuse to lock down everything and reset our economies, but even in 2019 the lethality rate was less than 1% for healthy people who caught it.
A handful of people dying on livestreams does not mean the virus was killing people in mass.
>>391643
>I'm saying that people dropping dead on the streets in China was theater, a staged psyop with all governments of the world falling in line with an invisible centralized, command.
Alright then. I agree completely.
>>391645
>A handful of people dying on livestreams does not mean the virus was killing people in mass
Plausible. What then is the explanation, since it was attributed to covid?
>A handful of people dying on livestreams does not mean the virus was killing people in mass
Plausible. What then is the explanation, since it was attributed to covid?
>>391645
>A handful of people dying on livestreams does not mean the virus was killing people in mass.
That was exactly what the Chinese government used to inflict terrorism on the population.
>A handful of people dying on livestreams does not mean the virus was killing people in mass.
That was exactly what the Chinese government used to inflict terrorism on the population.
>>391643
This isn't anything different from what I was saying. Idk what the disagreement here is, or how that makes me a "Covidian".
I thought it was fearmongering over something that was overall just a severe cold.
In 2019 and 2020, talking about the virus was considered to be "racist" and they wanted to sweep it under the rug. It was only when the realized the opportunity to reset the economy/politics that they even acknowledged it, and immediately after that they were fear mongering 24/7.
I don't go as far as to deny Germ Theory entirely, but if you think that makes me a "Covidian" even though I opposed their propaganda every step of the way, then I think that's proving OP's point about conspiracy purity spiralling.
>>391646
EVERY death was attributed to covid in early 2020. People died from a whole host of issues.
And even if the commie-lung-AIDS killed them, that doesn't prove that it had an extreme killing rate, because China is a country of 1.4 billion people, so what could appear to be a large sample of deaths could actually be negotiable when you weigh the sample size with population.
>>391647
Yes, I agree. Governments used it as an excuse to deprive people of their liberties.
Although for China in particular, I think they were being so draconian because the CCP is incredibly vain, and they didn't want the disease to become a national embarrassment.
This isn't anything different from what I was saying. Idk what the disagreement here is, or how that makes me a "Covidian".
I thought it was fearmongering over something that was overall just a severe cold.
In 2019 and 2020, talking about the virus was considered to be "racist" and they wanted to sweep it under the rug. It was only when the realized the opportunity to reset the economy/politics that they even acknowledged it, and immediately after that they were fear mongering 24/7.
I don't go as far as to deny Germ Theory entirely, but if you think that makes me a "Covidian" even though I opposed their propaganda every step of the way, then I think that's proving OP's point about conspiracy purity spiralling.
>>391646
EVERY death was attributed to covid in early 2020. People died from a whole host of issues.
And even if the commie-lung-AIDS killed them, that doesn't prove that it had an extreme killing rate, because China is a country of 1.4 billion people, so what could appear to be a large sample of deaths could actually be negotiable when you weigh the sample size with population.
>>391647
Yes, I agree. Governments used it as an excuse to deprive people of their liberties.
Although for China in particular, I think they were being so draconian because the CCP is incredibly vain, and they didn't want the disease to become a national embarrassment.
>>391643
>with an invisible centralized, command.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/mathematics/falsifiability
>Popper [1934] famously argues that the difference between scientific hypotheses and metaphysical hypotheses is that scientific hypotheses are “falsifiable” in a way that metaphysical hypotheses are not. To say that a certain hypothesis is falsifiable is to say that there is possible evidence that would not count as consistent with the hypothesis.
>with an invisible centralized, command.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/mathematics/falsifiability
>Popper [1934] famously argues that the difference between scientific hypotheses and metaphysical hypotheses is that scientific hypotheses are “falsifiable” in a way that metaphysical hypotheses are not. To say that a certain hypothesis is falsifiable is to say that there is possible evidence that would not count as consistent with the hypothesis.
>>391649
This is your last (you).
Yes, this is an argument from incredulity.
Are you suggesting that a virus that literally had people dying in the streets as they went about their daily business is the SAME virus that people like Dave Chappelle made jokes of?
Let's rewind a bit, here's a fun little factoid you might have seen when covid was popping off.
I have a couple of aunts who work as international firefighters. They were in Australia for the wildfires there. WHILE on scene, ONE of them got sick. You wanna know what the diagnosis was? Covid '19 (this was before the "outbreak" in February). She was fine, not even bed-ridden.
Again, this was before the 'outbreak'. I guess she didn't get the 'right' strain?
Covid 19 isn't a 'novel' strain, it's a made up name, a psyop, and you're an idiot who is more than well-illustrated as a waste of time. Thank you for playing, please tip your waitresses
This is your last (you).
Yes, this is an argument from incredulity.
Are you suggesting that a virus that literally had people dying in the streets as they went about their daily business is the SAME virus that people like Dave Chappelle made jokes of?
Let's rewind a bit, here's a fun little factoid you might have seen when covid was popping off.
I have a couple of aunts who work as international firefighters. They were in Australia for the wildfires there. WHILE on scene, ONE of them got sick. You wanna know what the diagnosis was? Covid '19 (this was before the "outbreak" in February). She was fine, not even bed-ridden.
Again, this was before the 'outbreak'. I guess she didn't get the 'right' strain?
Covid 19 isn't a 'novel' strain, it's a made up name, a psyop, and you're an idiot who is more than well-illustrated as a waste of time. Thank you for playing, please tip your waitresses
>>391654
>Covid 19 isn't a 'novel' strain, it's a made up name, a psyop
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022395623004302
>Covid 19 isn't a 'novel' strain, it's a made up name, a psyop
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022395623004302
>>391649
>Every death was attributed to covid in early 2020
That's like when commies say that "every death under the USSR per capita was attributed to communism so every death under capitalism per capita should be attributed to capitalism."
>Every death was attributed to covid in early 2020
That's like when commies say that "every death under the USSR per capita was attributed to communism so every death under capitalism per capita should be attributed to capitalism."
>>391657
Yes actually. I shall now reveal myself. For I am actually the commander of the shill army at Eglin Airforce Base. For your disobedience and refusal to accept germ theory I will punish you by setting 5G mind control towers in your area to MAXIMUM POWER!
Yes actually. I shall now reveal myself. For I am actually the commander of the shill army at Eglin Airforce Base. For your disobedience and refusal to accept germ theory I will punish you by setting 5G mind control towers in your area to MAXIMUM POWER!
Let's reframe this.
I'm alleging (yes, I apologize for the argument from anecdote) that some 8-months prior to the 'official' outbreak, someone I personally know was medically diagnosed with "Covid 19".
By YOUR argument, she should have dropped dead, or had to at LEAST have taken time off work. I mean, if the virus goes from "people dropping dead" to "nothing happens when people riot in the streets", well that's a shitty half-life. What's more, 8 months before the outbreak, how is this bitch walking around like it wasn't nothing?
Wait, let me guess, it's cuz she got it in Straya, right? Cuz NOTHING in Straya is known for trying to kill you or - more to the point - being LESS GOOD at killing you.
Do go on. I lied about the (you)s, but this has long since ceased to be a serious/credible conversation so we're on the "all your arguments are lol" tier of 'the rules'
I'm alleging (yes, I apologize for the argument from anecdote) that some 8-months prior to the 'official' outbreak, someone I personally know was medically diagnosed with "Covid 19".
By YOUR argument, she should have dropped dead, or had to at LEAST have taken time off work. I mean, if the virus goes from "people dropping dead" to "nothing happens when people riot in the streets", well that's a shitty half-life. What's more, 8 months before the outbreak, how is this bitch walking around like it wasn't nothing?
Wait, let me guess, it's cuz she got it in Straya, right? Cuz NOTHING in Straya is known for trying to kill you or - more to the point - being LESS GOOD at killing you.
Do go on. I lied about the (you)s, but this has long since ceased to be a serious/credible conversation so we're on the "all your arguments are lol" tier of 'the rules'
>>391661
I honestly don't think it was all that deadly even in the beginning. A few chinks collapsing on camera does not mean that most people were collapsing or that collapsing was a common occurrence.
I honestly don't think it was all that deadly even in the beginning. A few chinks collapsing on camera does not mean that most people were collapsing or that collapsing was a common occurrence.
>>391666
You can ask him. For you see the 5G mind control towers are actually controlled by Satan himself! Soon you shall be under his control!
You can ask him. For you see the 5G mind control towers are actually controlled by Satan himself! Soon you shall be under his control!
>>391654
>Are you suggesting that a virus that literally had people dying in the streets as they went about their daily business is the SAME virus that people like Dave Chappelle made jokes of?
No, I did not say that. Don't put words in my mouth.
It was you who said it was deadly and killing people in the streets.
>WHILE on scene, ONE of them got sick. You wanna know what the diagnosis was? Covid '19 (this was before the "outbreak" in February). She was fine, not even bed-ridden.
Yes. That's normal.
>I guess she didn't get the 'right' strain?
Every strain has only a tiny percentile chance of fatality, less than 1%.
>it's a made up name
It's named after the year it was discovered.
>a psyop
If it's a psyop, why did you say it was killing people in the streets? You are the only one in this thread who said that.
>>391657
Were you abused as a child?
You act like an abused child. It's actually kind of sad.
>>391658
Yes, I know. People were exaggerating the lethality out of
1. Panic
2. Propaganda
>>391661
>By YOUR argument, she should have dropped dead, or had to at LEAST have taken time off work.
I never said this. Nobody said this.
We just said that viruses get less deadly overtime. If the original strain was 0.01% deadly, it's probably even less than that now.
>Wait, let me guess, it's cuz she got it in Straya, right?
No. It's because it had only a tiny chance of killing her in the first place.
>>391663
>honestly don't think it was all that deadly even in the beginning. A few chinks collapsing on camera does not mean that most people were collapsing or that collapsing was a common occurrence.
>>391664
Just because you saw chinks collapsing on Tik Tok does not mean it was the bubonic plague. It's a country of 1.4 billion people: people die there all the time. 0.01% of 1.4 billion is still enough to go viral on social media.
>Are you suggesting that a virus that literally had people dying in the streets as they went about their daily business is the SAME virus that people like Dave Chappelle made jokes of?
No, I did not say that. Don't put words in my mouth.
It was you who said it was deadly and killing people in the streets.
>WHILE on scene, ONE of them got sick. You wanna know what the diagnosis was? Covid '19 (this was before the "outbreak" in February). She was fine, not even bed-ridden.
Yes. That's normal.
>I guess she didn't get the 'right' strain?
Every strain has only a tiny percentile chance of fatality, less than 1%.
>it's a made up name
It's named after the year it was discovered.
>a psyop
If it's a psyop, why did you say it was killing people in the streets? You are the only one in this thread who said that.
>>391657
Were you abused as a child?
You act like an abused child. It's actually kind of sad.
>>391658
Yes, I know. People were exaggerating the lethality out of
1. Panic
2. Propaganda
>>391661
>By YOUR argument, she should have dropped dead, or had to at LEAST have taken time off work.
I never said this. Nobody said this.
We just said that viruses get less deadly overtime. If the original strain was 0.01% deadly, it's probably even less than that now.
>Wait, let me guess, it's cuz she got it in Straya, right?
No. It's because it had only a tiny chance of killing her in the first place.
>>391663
>honestly don't think it was all that deadly even in the beginning. A few chinks collapsing on camera does not mean that most people were collapsing or that collapsing was a common occurrence.
>>391664
Just because you saw chinks collapsing on Tik Tok does not mean it was the bubonic plague. It's a country of 1.4 billion people: people die there all the time. 0.01% of 1.4 billion is still enough to go viral on social media.
>>391661
>this has long since ceased to be a serious/credible conversation so we're on the "all your arguments are lol" tier of 'the rules'
Alright then. Let's talk about how your drunk uncle touched you to get your brain in its current state.
>this has long since ceased to be a serious/credible conversation so we're on the "all your arguments are lol" tier of 'the rules'
Alright then. Let's talk about how your drunk uncle touched you to get your brain in its current state.
>>391668
>It was you who said it was deadly and killing people in the streets
No, what I saw was people dead and dying in the streets, attributed to covid, at the time. If not covid - like (((they))) said can we finally, officially correlate the chinese with jews? Cuz while geographically they ARE asian, but c'mon, most asians aren't trying to kill your descendents - what was it?
Cuz of all the covid ANYTHING (including economic downturn) the part I'm most interested in is the "why were people seemingly dead and dying".
I know, you hate to hear a broken record, but this is important
>It was you who said it was deadly and killing people in the streets
No, what I saw was people dead and dying in the streets, attributed to covid, at the time. If not covid - like (((they))) said can we finally, officially correlate the chinese with jews? Cuz while geographically they ARE asian, but c'mon, most asians aren't trying to kill your descendents - what was it?
Cuz of all the covid ANYTHING (including economic downturn) the part I'm most interested in is the "why were people seemingly dead and dying".
I know, you hate to hear a broken record, but this is important
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How about instead of demanding answers to things we don't understand, we take a deep breath and consider it later, or not at all.
>>391673
But while you contemplate what I mean by "Xbox", I'll point out that in jail/prison, even punks (official term) aren't referred to as fifis.
A fifi - for the uninitiated - is a very tightly wrapped sock with a condom (or whatever latex/rubber membrane) around it.
An improvized pocket-pussy.
Xbox is where you fish them out with a pool cleaning tool, from the main resevoir
But while you contemplate what I mean by "Xbox", I'll point out that in jail/prison, even punks (official term) aren't referred to as fifis.
A fifi - for the uninitiated - is a very tightly wrapped sock with a condom (or whatever latex/rubber membrane) around it.
An improvized pocket-pussy.
Xbox is where you fish them out with a pool cleaning tool, from the main resevoir
I'm scared of the mental illness on display but I am just so captivated by the audacity of the sentences being typed out.
And yes, for the record, this has been the unintended point.
Yes, it is preferred to have sources and links.
An absence of sources/links does not refute the argument.
An argument can be unvalidated and NOT be invalid, in fact it can be CORRECT
It's YOUR job to decide, instead of demanding that others "fight for your agreement"
Yes, it is preferred to have sources and links.
An absence of sources/links does not refute the argument.
An argument can be unvalidated and NOT be invalid, in fact it can be CORRECT
It's YOUR job to decide, instead of demanding that others "fight for your agreement"
>>391670
>No, what I saw was people dead and dying in the streets, attributed to covid, at the time. If not covid - like (((they))) said
The death rate was never, ever reported to be above a fraction of 1%.
>"why were people seemingly dead and dying".
Because 0.01% of over a billion people is still a lot of people, even if your chance of actually dying from it is very low.
>No, what I saw was people dead and dying in the streets, attributed to covid, at the time. If not covid - like (((they))) said
The death rate was never, ever reported to be above a fraction of 1%.
>"why were people seemingly dead and dying".
Because 0.01% of over a billion people is still a lot of people, even if your chance of actually dying from it is very low.
>>391683
I have.
If you've been around for ANY duration - let alone all 8 years - you would be able to POINT to it.
You failed, are we done arguing unrelated nonsense? Are we done assuming that positions are invalid because unvalidated by 'official' sources?
If poster says something that rustles your jimmies, the correct phrase is (this goes likewise for jail/prison or when dealing with infernals) "I would like to know why you think that".
I have.
If you've been around for ANY duration - let alone all 8 years - you would be able to POINT to it.
You failed, are we done arguing unrelated nonsense? Are we done assuming that positions are invalid because unvalidated by 'official' sources?
If poster says something that rustles your jimmies, the correct phrase is (this goes likewise for jail/prison or when dealing with infernals) "I would like to know why you think that".
>>391673
It seems more like child abuse to me. 9/10 narcissistic, infantile assholes I've encountered online were products of child abuse.
It seems more like child abuse to me. 9/10 narcissistic, infantile assholes I've encountered online were products of child abuse.
>>391680
More people need websites so when they see an article that influences their opinion they can link it, myself included.
More people need websites so when they see an article that influences their opinion they can link it, myself included.
Meanwhile, on the subject of Conspiritard Purity Spiralling, we have a douchebag who thinks that his approval matters
>>391685
>I have.
Ah, so I was right. Predictable, considering your demonstrably broken psyche and emotional instability. Sad. Many such cases.
>If you've been around for ANY duration - let alone all 8 years - you would be able to POINT to it.
Not everyone on this site is interested in your sausage backstory, believe it or not.
>>391687
Nah, I'm bored and waiting for pizza to bake. This thread has already gone to shit, and watching you make a clown of yourself like you always is amusing.
>I have.
Ah, so I was right. Predictable, considering your demonstrably broken psyche and emotional instability. Sad. Many such cases.
>If you've been around for ANY duration - let alone all 8 years - you would be able to POINT to it.
Not everyone on this site is interested in your sausage backstory, believe it or not.
>>391687
Nah, I'm bored and waiting for pizza to bake. This thread has already gone to shit, and watching you make a clown of yourself like you always is amusing.
>>391691
You think I'm the clown here? This is tuesday. If you want me to entertain you, there are SEVERAL threads, except you don't know it cuz you're a fucking newfaggot
You think I'm the clown here? This is tuesday. If you want me to entertain you, there are SEVERAL threads, except you don't know it cuz you're a fucking newfaggot
>>391692
>You think I'm the clown here?
You and boom boom, lmao. It's funnier to watch you squirm though, because the boomer just posts unfunny Facebook meme.
>except you don't know it cuz you're a fucking newfaggot
Lol, I have been here ever since Atlas first posted his link to /qa/ in April 2017. I've witnessed your autistic meltdowns time and time again. You get more unhinged and pathetic every year. No wonder you were kicked off the staff.
But you don't have to believe me if that helps you COPE.
>You think I'm the clown here?
You and boom boom, lmao. It's funnier to watch you squirm though, because the boomer just posts unfunny Facebook meme.
>except you don't know it cuz you're a fucking newfaggot
Lol, I have been here ever since Atlas first posted his link to /qa/ in April 2017. I've witnessed your autistic meltdowns time and time again. You get more unhinged and pathetic every year. No wonder you were kicked off the staff.
But you don't have to believe me if that helps you COPE.
>>391691
>This thread has already gone to shit
Threads are trees, make a new branch. Let us consider ways that the conspiritard spiralling phenomenon could be fixed, what structural issue might be at play, practices that individuals could do do help, etc...
>This thread has already gone to shit
Threads are trees, make a new branch. Let us consider ways that the conspiritard spiralling phenomenon could be fixed, what structural issue might be at play, practices that individuals could do do help, etc...
>>391694
>Let us consider ways that the conspiritard spiralling phenomenon could be fixed
I really don't know. I wish I knew.
>what structural issue might be at play
A lot of them began to infest online rightwing forums in 2021-2022, likely encouraged by Covid forcing all of the boomers onto the Internet, and taking advantage of the anti-government sentiment that naturally came at the time. Governments all over the world has destroyed our economies and stripped us of our freedom, so everyone was skeptical of everything. It created an environment where tinfoil hatters felt welcome, and once given an inch they took a mile.
>practices that individuals could do do help, et
I used to say "don't engage with them", but really even if you ignore them they fill up boards with their garbage while chasing content creators away.
>Let us consider ways that the conspiritard spiralling phenomenon could be fixed
I really don't know. I wish I knew.
>what structural issue might be at play
A lot of them began to infest online rightwing forums in 2021-2022, likely encouraged by Covid forcing all of the boomers onto the Internet, and taking advantage of the anti-government sentiment that naturally came at the time. Governments all over the world has destroyed our economies and stripped us of our freedom, so everyone was skeptical of everything. It created an environment where tinfoil hatters felt welcome, and once given an inch they took a mile.
>practices that individuals could do do help, et
I used to say "don't engage with them", but really even if you ignore them they fill up boards with their garbage while chasing content creators away.
>>391693
Then you have no excuse, what are you trying to do here and now, other than be a problem that I have to go to lengths to address?
Then you have no excuse, what are you trying to do here and now, other than be a problem that I have to go to lengths to address?
>other than be a problem that I have to go to lengths to address?
Actual lmao. Look everypony. The mentally ill retard thinks Anons are afraid of him.
You won't do shit, nigger.
Actual lmao. Look everypony. The mentally ill retard thinks Anons are afraid of him.
You won't do shit, nigger.
>>391700
>because you couldn't be bothered to check the archive
Literally nothing to do with that.
>one of you should know that I'm unavoidable
Prove it, fag. I'll wait.
>because you couldn't be bothered to check the archive
Literally nothing to do with that.
>one of you should know that I'm unavoidable
Prove it, fag. I'll wait.
>>391701
Literally everything to do with that.
This started when one party got buttmad that another party was making allegations that the first party disagreed with.
>>391702
Oh, you're back. Continuing
It spiralled out of control when one party disingenuously started the rhetorical game of "I just have to say shitty one-liners"; a common tactic of BoomBoom btw.
Seeing this, I decided to engage.
There was a kerfuffle, and every party was witnessed to be precisely how they are.
Fun fact, this is my FAVORITE tactic, I'm quite good at looking ridiculous, it doesn't bother me. But (you)? What do you have to say for yourself?
Literally everything to do with that.
This started when one party got buttmad that another party was making allegations that the first party disagreed with.
>>391702
Oh, you're back. Continuing
It spiralled out of control when one party disingenuously started the rhetorical game of "I just have to say shitty one-liners"; a common tactic of BoomBoom btw.
Seeing this, I decided to engage.
There was a kerfuffle, and every party was witnessed to be precisely how they are.
Fun fact, this is my FAVORITE tactic, I'm quite good at looking ridiculous, it doesn't bother me. But (you)? What do you have to say for yourself?
>>391704
Likewise, friendo
Now can we let the discussion continue?
You know, the one about online purity spirals, and how people form groups to try and silence dissent by disingenuous practices like demanding unrefutable links?
Oh my, is that what I've been doing? Making you prove yourself to be the typification of the thread topic?
Not my first rodeo, kid
[YouTube] Shokugeki no Soma S4 OST - Dish of God![]()
Likewise, friendo
Now can we let the discussion continue?
You know, the one about online purity spirals, and how people form groups to try and silence dissent by disingenuous practices like demanding unrefutable links?
Oh my, is that what I've been doing? Making you prove yourself to be the typification of the thread topic?
Not my first rodeo, kid
[YouTube] Shokugeki no Soma S4 OST - Dish of God
>>391703
>I'm quite good at looking ridiculous
That's the first time I agree with your perception, however twisted it may be.
If I skim this abomination of a thread, all I really see is one big schizophrenic episode spanning weeks. My only takeaway from all this nonsense is that OP is definitely not operating in the same reality I'm in, and he has done a very poor job describing how he arrived at such a dimension.
>I'm quite good at looking ridiculous
That's the first time I agree with your perception, however twisted it may be.
If I skim this abomination of a thread, all I really see is one big schizophrenic episode spanning weeks. My only takeaway from all this nonsense is that OP is definitely not operating in the same reality I'm in, and he has done a very poor job describing how he arrived at such a dimension.
>>391690
>on the subject of Conspiritard Purity Spiralling
Ahem.
I think this bread is an attempt to use the concept of "Woke Right" but repacked as "Purity Spiraling". The goal is the same: to reduce resistance and counter attacks to subversive attempts.
>on the subject of Conspiritard Purity Spiralling
Ahem.
I think this bread is an attempt to use the concept of "Woke Right" but repacked as "Purity Spiraling". The goal is the same: to reduce resistance and counter attacks to subversive attempts.
>>391711
I'm Gen X. You probably don't know what a switch is. Protip: it SOUNDS like it involves turning off and on lights, and thats cuz it is, but not what you're thinking.
>molested
I said let's make it awkward
Age 4
I'm Gen X. You probably don't know what a switch is. Protip: it SOUNDS like it involves turning off and on lights, and thats cuz it is, but not what you're thinking.
>molested
I said let's make it awkward
Age 4
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>>391714
Yes, I am examining how you grew up to be such a stunted, deranged, unstable, infantile retard.
Yes, I am examining how you grew up to be such a stunted, deranged, unstable, infantile retard.
>>391715
OH! That's easy to answer. You just have to A. not be a douche, B. ask, C. Not derail a thread to do so, D. did I mention not being a douche? E. pay attention (was it you or the other guy who claimed to be an oldfag <Bet 'e donnae knauwr 'bout the other board, F. Go F urself, G. What do you have against discussion of conspiracies, such that you wanna take it to me? Or, unless,...
OH! That's easy to answer. You just have to A. not be a douche, B. ask, C. Not derail a thread to do so, D. did I mention not being a douche? E. pay attention (was it you or the other guy who claimed to be an oldfag <Bet 'e donnae knauwr 'bout the other board, F. Go F urself, G. What do you have against discussion of conspiracies, such that you wanna take it to me? Or, unless,...
Real talk:
Is trolling fun when the victim is trolling back? Could this be a type of perpetual motion I witness?
Is trolling fun when the victim is trolling back? Could this be a type of perpetual motion I witness?
>>391717
It's more like one of those railway trolleys, where one party pushes down and then the other does.
It's more like one of those railway trolleys, where one party pushes down and then the other does.
>>391716
Lashing out I see.
I did correctly guess that you are touched in the head. I only wondered to what degree it was.
Now, when did the touchings stop? Did you grow a pair and fight back against your molester? Or did they abandon you when you grew too ugly? Or was it neither? Are you still being abused?
Did it harbor feelings of inadequacy? Powerlessness? Did you disassociate to cope with the trauma? Did you have feelings that you needed to prove something to people who never cared for you?
Did you develop strange sexual preferences? (aside from mares) Or did you shy away from it entirely, afraid of reliving your trauma?
With time, we can all understand why you are such an insufferable worthless fuck-up today.
>>391719
Also this.
Lashing out I see.
I did correctly guess that you are touched in the head. I only wondered to what degree it was.
Now, when did the touchings stop? Did you grow a pair and fight back against your molester? Or did they abandon you when you grew too ugly? Or was it neither? Are you still being abused?
Did it harbor feelings of inadequacy? Powerlessness? Did you disassociate to cope with the trauma? Did you have feelings that you needed to prove something to people who never cared for you?
Did you develop strange sexual preferences? (aside from mares) Or did you shy away from it entirely, afraid of reliving your trauma?
With time, we can all understand why you are such an insufferable worthless fuck-up today.
>>391719
Also this.
>>391720
>I expect you to answer while I'm being abysmally ugly and disrespectful
Maybe you haven't read the room properly
>I expect you to answer while I'm being abysmally ugly and disrespectful
Maybe you haven't read the room properly
>>391722
Oh, still afraid to confront your own damage I see.
That's fine. Your behavior in this thread speaks volumes already.
Oh, still afraid to confront your own damage I see.
That's fine. Your behavior in this thread speaks volumes already.
>>391723
>afraid
Your words, not mine. Regardless, I have no secrets for those who aren't petulent.
>Your behavior in this thread speaks volumes already
Likewise, mate, but I planned for this ^_~
>afraid
Your words, not mine. Regardless, I have no secrets for those who aren't petulent.
>Your behavior in this thread speaks volumes already
Likewise, mate, but I planned for this ^_~
>>391724
Planning for shitposts. Seems like an obsessive compulsion, perhaps even a safety blanket for an individual who was unable to escape their trauma or cope with the damage.
What is it that you are planning for? Does planning for irrelevant things make you feel better about being unable to escape your own nightmares? Does it give you a feeling of control? Does it make you feel competent, to distract from how broken you are?
>>391725
Obsessive planning is a common compulsion for abuse victims. It seems as though Ninjas is even more broken and unhinged than we initially thought.
Planning for shitposts. Seems like an obsessive compulsion, perhaps even a safety blanket for an individual who was unable to escape their trauma or cope with the damage.
What is it that you are planning for? Does planning for irrelevant things make you feel better about being unable to escape your own nightmares? Does it give you a feeling of control? Does it make you feel competent, to distract from how broken you are?
>>391725
Obsessive planning is a common compulsion for abuse victims. It seems as though Ninjas is even more broken and unhinged than we initially thought.
>>391730
Since one of you is an "all the time here" oldfag, I'll leave him to explain why what you just said was wrong, and if he's wrong, I'll be back to spank you both
Since one of you is an "all the time here" oldfag, I'll leave him to explain why what you just said was wrong, and if he's wrong, I'll be back to spank you both
>>391729
>there's been no precedent
You might be surprised.
>I'm literally gonna make you eat those words
Prove it, faggot. You are broken, and by your posting patterns you are either unwilling or unable to fix yourself.
>You seem oddly fixated on that, anything you want to share with the group?
Ah, throwing accusations of projection.
You are struggling. It is evident. Your uptick in insufferable shitposts on this site demonstrates deeply-rooted inadequacy and vulnerability.
Did you experience a loss in recent years? Someone who protected you in the past, no longer here to comfort you?
Did you recently have a "self discovery" that makes you feel validated? "Transexual"? "Asexual"? "Nonbinary"? Did you take on any of those labels to give yourself a more solid feeling of identity?
>>391730
The board merger was incredible. I wish I could relive that weekend all over again.
>>391731
>I'll be back to spank you both
Were you spanked as a child? Were you beaten? Who did the spanking, your father or your mother?
>there's been no precedent
You might be surprised.
>I'm literally gonna make you eat those words
Prove it, faggot. You are broken, and by your posting patterns you are either unwilling or unable to fix yourself.
>You seem oddly fixated on that, anything you want to share with the group?
Ah, throwing accusations of projection.
You are struggling. It is evident. Your uptick in insufferable shitposts on this site demonstrates deeply-rooted inadequacy and vulnerability.
Did you experience a loss in recent years? Someone who protected you in the past, no longer here to comfort you?
Did you recently have a "self discovery" that makes you feel validated? "Transexual"? "Asexual"? "Nonbinary"? Did you take on any of those labels to give yourself a more solid feeling of identity?
>>391730
The board merger was incredible. I wish I could relive that weekend all over again.
>>391731
>I'll be back to spank you both
Were you spanked as a child? Were you beaten? Who did the spanking, your father or your mother?
>>391732
>unwilling or unable to fix yourself
Wow, the projection. You're very obviously unreasonable, and not only disingenuous, but curiously unable to comprehend simple diction. How many posts ago did I mention the switch?
And then, after ALL of that (oh, I know you want to carry on) I ask again.
Are
you
done?
>unwilling or unable to fix yourself
Wow, the projection. You're very obviously unreasonable, and not only disingenuous, but curiously unable to comprehend simple diction. How many posts ago did I mention the switch?
And then, after ALL of that (oh, I know you want to carry on) I ask again.
Are
you
done?
>>391733
You syntax implies anger, desperation even, I can already imagine you angry flailing your hands over your keyboard. You verbally lash out like a caged animal, cornered, sad, unable to escape.
Can you remember the last time you felt trapped and unable to escape? Do you ever get a sense of unease for no particular reason? Are you comfortable in your own skin? Does the fursuit feel like the "real" you?
You syntax implies anger, desperation even, I can already imagine you angry flailing your hands over your keyboard. You verbally lash out like a caged animal, cornered, sad, unable to escape.
Can you remember the last time you felt trapped and unable to escape? Do you ever get a sense of unease for no particular reason? Are you comfortable in your own skin? Does the fursuit feel like the "real" you?
With stallions (and some mares) you have to ride/run them until they're exhausted. I'm just checking
>>391734
>my imagination
Kek
>>391734
>my imagination
Kek
>>391735
What do you imagine when I ask you that? Do you sink into your escapist delusions, or do you prefer to stroll down memory lane?
What do you imagine when I ask you that? Do you sink into your escapist delusions, or do you prefer to stroll down memory lane?
>>391737
Your continued responses are the only evidence I need that it is effective.
>I laugh
You prefer to laugh when faced with the realities of your own inadequacy? Is this a recurring pattern? Do you sometimes laugh in public for no reason? Does laughing help mask how broken you feel?
Your continued responses are the only evidence I need that it is effective.
>I laugh
You prefer to laugh when faced with the realities of your own inadequacy? Is this a recurring pattern? Do you sometimes laugh in public for no reason? Does laughing help mask how broken you feel?
>>391738
You clearly don't understand the equation then.
>You prefer to laugh when faced with the realities of your own inadequacy? Is this a recurring pattern? Do you sometimes laugh in public for no reason? Does laughing help mask how broken you feel?
No. I choose to laugh when douchebags on the internet who know nothing of what I have experienced try to weaponize "it" on an anonymous board.
You clearly don't understand the equation then.
>You prefer to laugh when faced with the realities of your own inadequacy? Is this a recurring pattern? Do you sometimes laugh in public for no reason? Does laughing help mask how broken you feel?
No. I choose to laugh when douchebags on the internet who know nothing of what I have experienced try to weaponize "it" on an anonymous board.
>>391739
>You clearly don't understand
Tell me more about yourself then.
Together, we can figure out and show to the site turned out to be such a pathetic loser.
> I choose to laugh when douchebags on the internet who know nothing of what I have experienced try to weaponize "it" on an anonymous board
That makes you laugh? Seems as though it affects you then. Most people would just ignore it and keep scrolling.
Have you ever thought of why it makes you laugh? Why you prefer to engage with it? Do you have masochistic tendencies? Do you have compulsions to engage with content that you do not enjoy? Or do you instead feel joy from it?
>You clearly don't understand
Tell me more about yourself then.
Together, we can figure out and show to the site turned out to be such a pathetic loser.
> I choose to laugh when douchebags on the internet who know nothing of what I have experienced try to weaponize "it" on an anonymous board
That makes you laugh? Seems as though it affects you then. Most people would just ignore it and keep scrolling.
Have you ever thought of why it makes you laugh? Why you prefer to engage with it? Do you have masochistic tendencies? Do you have compulsions to engage with content that you do not enjoy? Or do you instead feel joy from it?
Is anyone else getting flashbacks to the Jordan Peterson vs that Sky News bitch?
>>391742
You think so? Why do you keep replying then? Does part of you wish to confront your own inadequacy? Or does your ingrained trauma prevent you from acting "cowardly" and walking away from painful situations?
Do you feel better after having posted all of this? Or are you feeling progressively worse or bored, but choose to engage with it anyway?
You think so? Why do you keep replying then? Does part of you wish to confront your own inadequacy? Or does your ingrained trauma prevent you from acting "cowardly" and walking away from painful situations?
Do you feel better after having posted all of this? Or are you feeling progressively worse or bored, but choose to engage with it anyway?
>>391744
>Why do you keep replying then
Cuz it's something to entertain me! I wanna see where this is gonna go!
>he tries to use my own tactic
Oh
>Do you feel better after having posted all of this
Yes, as long as you aren't gonna be a bitch and fuck off when it comes time to admit why you're in this. I won't guess based off what you've said, only a professional (or someone inserting their own bias) could do that.
No, it wasn't an uncle, but you kept saying that. I ask again, is there something you want to share with the group? This is a safe space, you can be honest. I have, not that you haven't (feebly) attempted to weaponize it against me, but if you're the coward I pegged you for, my guess is 'nah'. Oh, you'll paint it as "not your business", but really you just can't speak of it can you?
Whether you're Lee or who-the-fuck-ever, you DON'T have to act like an unreasonable shit when you want confirmation for a post. Like seriously, just ask nicely. This didn't have to be hard
>Why do you keep replying then
Cuz it's something to entertain me! I wanna see where this is gonna go!
>he tries to use my own tactic
Oh
>Do you feel better after having posted all of this
Yes, as long as you aren't gonna be a bitch and fuck off when it comes time to admit why you're in this. I won't guess based off what you've said, only a professional (or someone inserting their own bias) could do that.
No, it wasn't an uncle, but you kept saying that. I ask again, is there something you want to share with the group? This is a safe space, you can be honest. I have, not that you haven't (feebly) attempted to weaponize it against me, but if you're the coward I pegged you for, my guess is 'nah'. Oh, you'll paint it as "not your business", but really you just can't speak of it can you?
Whether you're Lee or who-the-fuck-ever, you DON'T have to act like an unreasonable shit when you want confirmation for a post. Like seriously, just ask nicely. This didn't have to be hard
>>391746
kek
kek
>>391745
>No, it wasn't an uncle
Oh, so who was it then? A parent? A stranger? A teacher? How long did it go on for?
>No, it wasn't an uncle
Oh, so who was it then? A parent? A stranger? A teacher? How long did it go on for?
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Recreating the bitch-post:
>Looks like he finally got it. Let's count this session as a success.
>Until next time.
Next time indeed
>Looks like he finally got it. Let's count this session as a success.
>Until next time.
Next time indeed
>>391752
>>391753
You know there are more healthy ways of dealing with past trauma than making a scene on an obscure imageboard or shouting shill at random online strangers. Just throwing it out there, but AI therapists aren't going to break the bank and there are herbal alternatives to many of the psych meds out there such as st. John's wart and blue lotus.
>>391753
You know there are more healthy ways of dealing with past trauma than making a scene on an obscure imageboard or shouting shill at random online strangers. Just throwing it out there, but AI therapists aren't going to break the bank and there are herbal alternatives to many of the psych meds out there such as st. John's wart and blue lotus.
>>391754
>>391755
You're far more screwed up than I am. Nono, take a bow! You're exemplary! Please, illustrate more how you delight in other people's problems, such that you try to bring them up in a discussion you lost long ago but either aren't smart enough, or aren't man enough to admit.
Nono, I've said enough. It's your turn. Why ARE you so vile?
>>391755
You're far more screwed up than I am. Nono, take a bow! You're exemplary! Please, illustrate more how you delight in other people's problems, such that you try to bring them up in a discussion you lost long ago but either aren't smart enough, or aren't man enough to admit.
Nono, I've said enough. It's your turn. Why ARE you so vile?
>>391756
>You're far more screwed up than I am.
Now that's a gutbuster.
>Why
Mostly, because I'm bored, and you have been making us bear witness to your mental health meltdowns on board for years, so we may as well get it out of your system now.
Now tell us more about the last time you were touched.
>You're far more screwed up than I am.
Now that's a gutbuster.
>Why
Mostly, because I'm bored, and you have been making us bear witness to your mental health meltdowns on board for years, so we may as well get it out of your system now.
Now tell us more about the last time you were touched.
>>391758
Yes, well if you're bored you can fap. I've expended all the good-faith I had in you. Congratulations, you're officially the worst, and coming from me that's saying something
Yes, well if you're bored you can fap. I've expended all the good-faith I had in you. Congratulations, you're officially the worst, and coming from me that's saying something
>officially
Lol, lmao even. It really thinks we take it seriously.
Lol, lmao even. It really thinks we take it seriously.
>>391760
If you didn't, you wouldn't respond. Turn-about is fair play. I've answered your questions, answer mine. Why are you so vile?
If you didn't, you wouldn't respond. Turn-about is fair play. I've answered your questions, answer mine. Why are you so vile?
>>391761
Tbh I think the vileness is justified. You've chased off plenty of people and made the community less fun over the years. People telling you to eat shit is long overdue.
Tbh I think the vileness is justified. You've chased off plenty of people and made the community less fun over the years. People telling you to eat shit is long overdue.
>>391761
>I've answered your questions, answer mine.
Alright then, that's fair.
>Why are you so vile?
Because I'm sick of you, and I'm tired of being nice. My attempts to ignore or reason with you in a civil manner were futile, so instead I prefer to entertain myself in ascertaining why you are so pathetic and deranged.
>>391762
This.
For years, his egotistical posturing has lowered site quality and driven off contentfags, and this site has payed a major price for it.
>I've answered your questions, answer mine.
Alright then, that's fair.
>Why are you so vile?
Because I'm sick of you, and I'm tired of being nice. My attempts to ignore or reason with you in a civil manner were futile, so instead I prefer to entertain myself in ascertaining why you are so pathetic and deranged.
>>391762
This.
For years, his egotistical posturing has lowered site quality and driven off contentfags, and this site has payed a major price for it.
>>391764
>My attempts to ignore or reason with you in a civil manner were futile, so instead I prefer to entertain myself in ascertaining why you are so pathetic and deranged.
This. People here tried to give good faith discussion and you shat on all of them. Then you cry how people shit on you back. Fuck off.
>My attempts to ignore or reason with you in a civil manner were futile, so instead I prefer to entertain myself in ascertaining why you are so pathetic and deranged.
This. People here tried to give good faith discussion and you shat on all of them. Then you cry how people shit on you back. Fuck off.
>>391765
For years I've watched this faggot repeat his same egotistical cycle as he wasted the time of people who came to this site for good faith discussion. I watched him autistically posture with his stupid non-arguments around good users, and I watched as one by one those users stopped posting entirely as the promise for quality discussion on /mlpol/ was not kept.
He acts like he owns the place because he's been here a while, but really in all those 8 years he took more than he gave.
For years I've watched this faggot repeat his same egotistical cycle as he wasted the time of people who came to this site for good faith discussion. I watched him autistically posture with his stupid non-arguments around good users, and I watched as one by one those users stopped posting entirely as the promise for quality discussion on /mlpol/ was not kept.
He acts like he owns the place because he's been here a while, but really in all those 8 years he took more than he gave.
>>391766
>For years I've watched this faggot repeat his same egotistical cycle as he wasted the time of people who came to this site for good faith discussion
I was gonna say the same, it's weird
Naturally, you will need to validate the claim of "good faith discussion", which is NOT evident atm
>>391766
Are we going to do this in public?
>For years I've watched this faggot repeat his same egotistical cycle as he wasted the time of people who came to this site for good faith discussion
I was gonna say the same, it's weird
Naturally, you will need to validate the claim of "good faith discussion", which is NOT evident atm
>>391766
Are we going to do this in public?
>>391770
You were given citations and counter arguments. You accused people of bad faith for doing just that. You then demanded that people sift through old posts and just listen and believe. Eat shit. No one is going to tell you you're a special boy.
You were given citations and counter arguments. You accused people of bad faith for doing just that. You then demanded that people sift through old posts and just listen and believe. Eat shit. No one is going to tell you you're a special boy.
>>391770
>Naturally, you will need to validate the claim of "good faith discussion"
Oh, sure, all those posters you drove away over the years were all bad faith. You alone are the good faith debater. You and boomer.
>Are we going to do this in public?
It's already happening, you broken retard.
>Naturally, you will need to validate the claim of "good faith discussion"
Oh, sure, all those posters you drove away over the years were all bad faith. You alone are the good faith debater. You and boomer.
>Are we going to do this in public?
It's already happening, you broken retard.
>>391771
No, ONE of you was given PAGES of citations of links, and acted like a little shit, and was treated like one. That was page 1. Shall we turn the page on this retrospective?
No, ONE of you was given PAGES of citations of links, and acted like a little shit, and was treated like one. That was page 1. Shall we turn the page on this retrospective?
>>391774
>acted like a little shit, and was treated like one
Is that what your [information needed] said when he buttfucked you?
>acted like a little shit, and was treated like one
Is that what your [information needed] said when he buttfucked you?
>>391774
Pages full of obvious nonsense like germ theory denial. No one wants to sift through obvious bullshit. Meanwhile you were given academic sources and textbooks. You accused that of being in bad faith because the evidence given didn't tell you that you are a special boy.
Pages full of obvious nonsense like germ theory denial. No one wants to sift through obvious bullshit. Meanwhile you were given academic sources and textbooks. You accused that of being in bad faith because the evidence given didn't tell you that you are a special boy.
>>391777
>My abuser was female.
Ooh, now we're getting somewhere.
>Next?
Was it your mother? It would explain your infantile tendencies. Was it a other relative or caretaker? Did she stick things in your butt? Touch you inappropriately? Spank you for no reason?
Did you develop sexual neural deformities from it? Transexuality? Asexuality? Obscure fetishes (we already know you're a furry)?
>My abuser was female.
Ooh, now we're getting somewhere.
>Next?
Was it your mother? It would explain your infantile tendencies. Was it a other relative or caretaker? Did she stick things in your butt? Touch you inappropriately? Spank you for no reason?
Did you develop sexual neural deformities from it? Transexuality? Asexuality? Obscure fetishes (we already know you're a furry)?
>>391783
>waxing idiotic
Have fun with that. I played along, all my answers were honest, but you're not interested in honesty. Many such cases (btw, dishonesty is what leads to jews)
>waxing idiotic
Have fun with that. I played along, all my answers were honest, but you're not interested in honesty. Many such cases (btw, dishonesty is what leads to jews)
>>391780
I'm here for the show now. I think I've earned watching you get shit on after watching you chase good posters away.
I'm here for the show now. I think I've earned watching you get shit on after watching you chase good posters away.
>>391786
I'll tell you right now all you need to do to prevent this kind of shit in the future is to prevent the behavior that led to this in the first place. Enforce good faith debate on /mlpol/ this is a politics board and discussion only works when people are arguing in good faith. Shouting "shill" at all opposition leads to paranoia and the destruction of the community at large.
I'll tell you right now all you need to do to prevent this kind of shit in the future is to prevent the behavior that led to this in the first place. Enforce good faith debate on /mlpol/ this is a politics board and discussion only works when people are arguing in good faith. Shouting "shill" at all opposition leads to paranoia and the destruction of the community at large.
>>391789
Yes, but I don't give a shit about this thread because it is retarded to begin with and was asking for this sort of thing from the beginning. Forgive me for not noticing you devolving into shit flinging so intensely. I am fixing the problem now.
Yes, but I don't give a shit about this thread because it is retarded to begin with and was asking for this sort of thing from the beginning. Forgive me for not noticing you devolving into shit flinging so intensely. I am fixing the problem now.
>>391791
It's fine that you don't care about this thread. The problem of accusing opposition of being shills has been a problem for a long time now and it has led to a decline in users. We have an opportunity with newfags from the 4chan fags and we may soon have another opportunity with refugees from ourchan if their retarded leadership keeps doing what they are doing. This place could be lively again. Let's not drive out new users.
It's fine that you don't care about this thread. The problem of accusing opposition of being shills has been a problem for a long time now and it has led to a decline in users. We have an opportunity with newfags from the 4chan fags and we may soon have another opportunity with refugees from ourchan if their retarded leadership keeps doing what they are doing. This place could be lively again. Let's not drive out new users.
>>391792
I will suggest that, but it is best that staff not delete threads based on autistic behavior if OP is not the one that is engaging in it. I am still going through the mountain of history to see if that is the case, but I am guessing that it is just sperging from people that can't just make a unique thread.
There is both a Bible thread and a pagan thread. Why can't you do battle in an organized manner like they do it?
I will suggest that, but it is best that staff not delete threads based on autistic behavior if OP is not the one that is engaging in it. I am still going through the mountain of history to see if that is the case, but I am guessing that it is just sperging from people that can't just make a unique thread.
There is both a Bible thread and a pagan thread. Why can't you do battle in an organized manner like they do it?
>>391793
Calling people a shill, though annoying, isn't against the rules on its own. You just have to power through a bit of that. If the problem persists where it is clear that it is not just someone mad about your position or too retarded to understand a position, report the post as it is in violation of rule #2.
Calling people a shill, though annoying, isn't against the rules on its own. You just have to power through a bit of that. If the problem persists where it is clear that it is not just someone mad about your position or too retarded to understand a position, report the post as it is in violation of rule #2.
>>391795
>Calling people a shill, though annoying, isn't against the rules on its own.
Making fun of people for being mentally ill faggots isn't against the rules either.
>Calling people a shill, though annoying, isn't against the rules on its own.
Making fun of people for being mentally ill faggots isn't against the rules either.
At first it was obnoxious cuz OP was clearly being a nonce on purpose, then it became amusing when some schizo (probably OP) sperged and strung along others into the spergfest, but after a week of nonstop sperging it became concerning.
>>391796
Correct, which is why I was largely ignoring the thread because taking action on either side of the slap fight prematurely would not be wise. You are free to belittle someone for opinions here, even though I would not personally suggest it.
Just please go back on topic or make a new thread. Preferably a new thread because when a thread exists for this long with this much shit going around, it will just devolve again.
Correct, which is why I was largely ignoring the thread because taking action on either side of the slap fight prematurely would not be wise. You are free to belittle someone for opinions here, even though I would not personally suggest it.
Just please go back on topic or make a new thread. Preferably a new thread because when a thread exists for this long with this much shit going around, it will just devolve again.
>>391795
I get that it isn't against the rules. I'm saying it should be, along with other thought terminating clichés. Accusations of being a bad actors immediately put people in a defensive position where they have to "prove" they are legit despite many obvious good faith efforts to have a discussion. And it's only like 3 people doing this shit. I get that you support free speech, but accusing your opposition of sabotaging the site to avoid having a discussion seems like it would prevent political discussion. If we don't want political discussion why even have pol in the name?
I get that it isn't against the rules. I'm saying it should be, along with other thought terminating clichés. Accusations of being a bad actors immediately put people in a defensive position where they have to "prove" they are legit despite many obvious good faith efforts to have a discussion. And it's only like 3 people doing this shit. I get that you support free speech, but accusing your opposition of sabotaging the site to avoid having a discussion seems like it would prevent political discussion. If we don't want political discussion why even have pol in the name?
>>391800
You could just ignore the poster. Again, there is nothing forcing you to defend honor against someone that yells shill. If you are mentally incapable of ignoring though, then report it and I will see if there is any history of doing it. You can't just delete everyone that says the word shill on sight.
You could just ignore the poster. Again, there is nothing forcing you to defend honor against someone that yells shill. If you are mentally incapable of ignoring though, then report it and I will see if there is any history of doing it. You can't just delete everyone that says the word shill on sight.
>>391802
I don't think that the word shill should be banned on sight. I think using the accusation to avoid discussion should be banned. We have seen this game played out for years now and it has led to a decline in users.
I don't think that the word shill should be banned on sight. I think using the accusation to avoid discussion should be banned. We have seen this game played out for years now and it has led to a decline in users.
>>391804
I absolutely agree that it is a tactic that is designed to shut down discussion. I don't see the problem with ignoring it first though. The only ways the accusation can shut down discussion is by either convincing others or yourself to engage with the accusation. It is easy to maintain the discussion by replying to anyone else.
But regardless of how I feel about it, it is a violation of rule #2 anyway when used to try to target a user or thread. Just report the issue, as long as it is indeed an issue.
I absolutely agree that it is a tactic that is designed to shut down discussion. I don't see the problem with ignoring it first though. The only ways the accusation can shut down discussion is by either convincing others or yourself to engage with the accusation. It is easy to maintain the discussion by replying to anyone else.
But regardless of how I feel about it, it is a violation of rule #2 anyway when used to try to target a user or thread. Just report the issue, as long as it is indeed an issue.
>>391804
Consider it a learning experience. People CAN be assholes, and until we learn how to remote hack brain stems you can't really stop them. If it does happen, just realize that the guy isn't here for talking and just leave like an adult. Or be an egregious asshole back, if you wanna. Lurkers like me find it funny.
Consider it a learning experience. People CAN be assholes, and until we learn how to remote hack brain stems you can't really stop them. If it does happen, just realize that the guy isn't here for talking and just leave like an adult. Or be an egregious asshole back, if you wanna. Lurkers like me find it funny.
>>391807
Being an asshole back seems to be the best course of action, but enough of that going back and forth will lead to a decline in the quality of the site.
Being an asshole back seems to be the best course of action, but enough of that going back and forth will lead to a decline in the quality of the site.
>>391808
Keep in mind the community is pretty small. Small enough that we can recognize posters by writing style.
Keep in mind the community is pretty small. Small enough that we can recognize posters by writing style.
>>391802
>You could just ignore the poster.
Ignoring them just means that they fill up the site with their sewage unopposed and act like they own the place, which drives away good users.
>>391808
Tbh, I think we start being a lot more openly hostile to these sorts of faggots. They have gotten way too comfortable on right wing forums since 2021. Enough is enough.
>You could just ignore the poster.
Ignoring them just means that they fill up the site with their sewage unopposed and act like they own the place, which drives away good users.
>>391808
Tbh, I think we start being a lot more openly hostile to these sorts of faggots. They have gotten way too comfortable on right wing forums since 2021. Enough is enough.
>>391784
This was my last post. I'm in the process of something related to my nephew, but trust that I'll be dropping MIRv grenades when I'm done
This was my last post. I'm in the process of something related to my nephew, but trust that I'll be dropping MIRv grenades when I'm done
>>391787
>I am absolutely fascinated in how broken and sad you are
Not nearly as sad and broken as you, if thats what you're into. I'm sure you were just trying to be fake and edgy tho, no one thinks you're actually this assertive.
>>391789
You (or one of you) led to this. You don't get to start making a mess and then complain when a mess is made, because someone joined you in making a mess. Yes, their hands are dirty, but who started it?
>>391791
Awww, I was having fun
>>391792
You could just stfu, likewise
>>391793
>calling people shills is the problem
No, posters acting entitled and demanding things was the problem, the rest is consequential.
>>391796
Nor is allowing posters to display their own malevolence!
>>391800
>engage in the same purity spirals that the thread warns against
Bruh
>I am absolutely fascinated in how broken and sad you are
Not nearly as sad and broken as you, if thats what you're into. I'm sure you were just trying to be fake and edgy tho, no one thinks you're actually this assertive.
>>391789
You (or one of you) led to this. You don't get to start making a mess and then complain when a mess is made, because someone joined you in making a mess. Yes, their hands are dirty, but who started it?
>>391791
Awww, I was having fun
>>391792
You could just stfu, likewise
>>391793
>calling people shills is the problem
No, posters acting entitled and demanding things was the problem, the rest is consequential.
>>391796
Nor is allowing posters to display their own malevolence!
>>391800
>engage in the same purity spirals that the thread warns against
Bruh
>>391816
It isn't unreasonable or "entitled" to ask someone to back up their position on a political discussion board.
It isn't unreasonable or "entitled" to ask someone to back up their position on a political discussion board.
>>391818
Nigger half your posts are about how you shouldn't have to "spoon feed" (see provide evidence). Jesus you really are asking for it. I hope the mods don't intervene the next time you get shit on.
Nigger half your posts are about how you shouldn't have to "spoon feed" (see provide evidence). Jesus you really are asking for it. I hope the mods don't intervene the next time you get shit on.
Yes, one shouldn't have to spoon-feed petulant children. What's the confusion?
>>391824
I'm as surprised as you are, usually they give me a warning or a 3-day knock on wood
But we've had a fun day of 'play' so I'll throw you a bone. She was the baby-sitter.
I'm as surprised as you are, usually they give me a warning or a 3-day knock on wood
But we've had a fun day of 'play' so I'll throw you a bone. She was the baby-sitter.
Back on topic,
A scientific study that identified high tech nanothermite in the 9/11 dust.
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/technical-articles/articles-in-engineering-and-science-publications/106-active-thermitic-material-discovered-in-dust-from-the-9-11-world-trade-center-catastrophe
https://www.benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf
A scientific study that identified high tech nanothermite in the 9/11 dust.
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/technical-articles/articles-in-engineering-and-science-publications/106-active-thermitic-material-discovered-in-dust-from-the-9-11-world-trade-center-catastrophe
https://www.benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf
>391851
1. We do not read every single post posted to every single thread. We have jobs. We don't have the time to evaluate every single line of posts. We can generally weed out bot spam and CP posts because those look different from normal posts. What is harder to see is general derailing behavior.
2. Use the report function. That's what it's there for. If it's multiple posts in a repeated action, report multiple posts. Don't just bitch "why aren't mods observing this shit flinging contest I am involved in as heavily as I am?" We have better things to do with our time.
3. After receiving a report last night, we decided to stop the back and forth shit flinging and bring an end to it. What is your issue here? That you weren't the last person to fling shit? Too damn bad. We don't want to be on an image board where shit is being flung.
1. We do not read every single post posted to every single thread. We have jobs. We don't have the time to evaluate every single line of posts. We can generally weed out bot spam and CP posts because those look different from normal posts. What is harder to see is general derailing behavior.
2. Use the report function. That's what it's there for. If it's multiple posts in a repeated action, report multiple posts. Don't just bitch "why aren't mods observing this shit flinging contest I am involved in as heavily as I am?" We have better things to do with our time.
3. After receiving a report last night, we decided to stop the back and forth shit flinging and bring an end to it. What is your issue here? That you weren't the last person to fling shit? Too damn bad. We don't want to be on an image board where shit is being flung.
>>391852
Shit-flinging is the natural state of imageboards. What kills imageboards isn't the shit-flinging, it's egotistical namefags who draw attention to themselves and make every discussion about themselves and call anyone who disagrees with them newfags because they're not also namefagging, while they themselves also keep shit-flinging. That's what killed ponychan, and it could just as easily kill us.
I have said my part now though. A decision has already been made. I will fuck off now.
Shit-flinging is the natural state of imageboards. What kills imageboards isn't the shit-flinging, it's egotistical namefags who draw attention to themselves and make every discussion about themselves and call anyone who disagrees with them newfags because they're not also namefagging, while they themselves also keep shit-flinging. That's what killed ponychan, and it could just as easily kill us.
I have said my part now though. A decision has already been made. I will fuck off now.
>>391854
Not even close. What kills imageboards is apathy, fueled by anons who fly-by-night, pretending to be "part of the group"
>Oooh, theres a new shiny over THERE?
>proceeds to fuck off over there
Not even close. What kills imageboards is apathy, fueled by anons who fly-by-night, pretending to be "part of the group"
>Oooh, theres a new shiny over THERE?
>proceeds to fuck off over there
>>391854
Use the report button. Just because you are reading the thread and familiar with everything that is happening in it does not mean that moderation is.
Use the report button. Just because you are reading the thread and familiar with everything that is happening in it does not mean that moderation is.
>>391858
Nah. It is gaggers like OP with twilight zone breads like this one that messes everything up.
Nah. It is gaggers like OP with twilight zone breads like this one that messes everything up.
>>391862
Other people were saying that they had noticed the same phenomenon as the OP. The thread is on topic and some of the discussion in this thread proves the observation has a basis in reality. Being against purity spiralling is probably good for a community.
Other people were saying that they had noticed the same phenomenon as the OP. The thread is on topic and some of the discussion in this thread proves the observation has a basis in reality. Being against purity spiralling is probably good for a community.
>>391858
Well now you're begging the question of what "is" an imageboard. Is it the users/culture? Is it what was established?
Is it destroying the /mlp/ community for Mlpol to exist? Clearly not.
The reality is - and this played out during the S harty-fag incident - is that:
Without 4chan, 4chan doesn't know where to go
Well now you're begging the question of what "is" an imageboard. Is it the users/culture? Is it what was established?
Is it destroying the /mlp/ community for Mlpol to exist? Clearly not.
The reality is - and this played out during the S harty-fag incident - is that:
Without 4chan, 4chan doesn't know where to go
[YouTube] Ship Of Theseus scene from WandaVision (Vision vs White Vision)![]()
Mlpol is Theseus' life-raft
Mlpol is Theseus' life-raft
>>391863
>Being against purity spiralling is probably good for a community
The anti-White community you meant.
Purity Spiraling is good as allows to weed subversives out. And there are a lot of them.
>Being against purity spiralling is probably good for a community
The anti-White community you meant.
Purity Spiraling is good as allows to weed subversives out. And there are a lot of them.
>>391882
>Purity Spiraling is good as allows to weed subversives out. And there are a lot of them.
That is not even close to true. You can still be a conspiratard and be subversive: see Project Mockingbird.
And spiralling is not good for anything, that's why it's called spiralling, as in spiralling out of control.
>Purity Spiraling is good as allows to weed subversives out. And there are a lot of them.
That is not even close to true. You can still be a conspiratard and be subversive: see Project Mockingbird.
And spiralling is not good for anything, that's why it's called spiralling, as in spiralling out of control.
>>391882
How does not believing x conspiracy make someone a subversive? Also I would suggest giving the following a read.
https://gildhelm.substack.com/p/the-northwest-territorial-failure
How does not believing x conspiracy make someone a subversive? Also I would suggest giving the following a read.
https://gildhelm.substack.com/p/the-northwest-territorial-failure
>I'm all for people getting axed as long as it isn't me
Fucking typical
Fucking typical
>>391709
>I think this bread is an attempt to use the concept of "Woke Right" but repacked as "Purity Spiraling". The goal is the same: to reduce resistance and counter attacks to subversive attempts.
I don't think that's the case at all. Apart from all the hilarious side conversations about virology and uncle-touching, this thread is about OP raising a perfectly valid objection about the state of the online right. Over the course of the last 20 years or so, the old media landscape, where television and newspapers were a one-way conduit of information, has broken down and been replaced by online conversation. Subsequently, most of the old taboos have been done away with and subjects that were previously pushed into the margins of discussion are now up for debate.
The downside of this is that it's allowed a lot of fringe schizos pushing ridiculous, easily-debunkable nonsense theories to grab hold of the megaphone and take over the conversation. At best, this just adds noise to otherwise productive discussion, at worst it causes all of us to look ridiculous by association and causes us to lose ground. For example, arguing over silly theories about covid vaccines containing nanobots only serves to distract from the broader, more serious conversation about an untested, arguably unnecessary vaccine being pushed on the entire population without consent. Arguing about whether or not the earth is flat 500 years after the matter was settled only serves to distract from literally any productive conversation. And so on.
OP was right to bring this subject up. People with the sense to be skeptical of official narratives and official science should be equally or even more skeptical of online schizo theories.
>I think this bread is an attempt to use the concept of "Woke Right" but repacked as "Purity Spiraling". The goal is the same: to reduce resistance and counter attacks to subversive attempts.
I don't think that's the case at all. Apart from all the hilarious side conversations about virology and uncle-touching, this thread is about OP raising a perfectly valid objection about the state of the online right. Over the course of the last 20 years or so, the old media landscape, where television and newspapers were a one-way conduit of information, has broken down and been replaced by online conversation. Subsequently, most of the old taboos have been done away with and subjects that were previously pushed into the margins of discussion are now up for debate.
The downside of this is that it's allowed a lot of fringe schizos pushing ridiculous, easily-debunkable nonsense theories to grab hold of the megaphone and take over the conversation. At best, this just adds noise to otherwise productive discussion, at worst it causes all of us to look ridiculous by association and causes us to lose ground. For example, arguing over silly theories about covid vaccines containing nanobots only serves to distract from the broader, more serious conversation about an untested, arguably unnecessary vaccine being pushed on the entire population without consent. Arguing about whether or not the earth is flat 500 years after the matter was settled only serves to distract from literally any productive conversation. And so on.
OP was right to bring this subject up. People with the sense to be skeptical of official narratives and official science should be equally or even more skeptical of online schizo theories.
>>391910
>schizo theories
It depends how knowledgeable you are. I read many anon affirming the the world is round, but none of them look like understand basic trigonometry, then to avoid a sterile argument with people who are ignoramuses, I stick to the following statement:
You can't explain a moron that is a moron, because is actually a moron.
>schizo theories
It depends how knowledgeable you are. I read many anon affirming the the world is round, but none of them look like understand basic trigonometry, then to avoid a sterile argument with people who are ignoramuses, I stick to the following statement:
You can't explain a moron that is a moron, because is actually a moron.
>>391915
I'm sure you will frown at this meme and switch to character assassination to deflect. Math and geometry surely is not your strength.
I'm sure you will frown at this meme and switch to character assassination to deflect. Math and geometry surely is not your strength.
>>391893
>But OP crossed the line with an over the top bluepill and that is inadmissible.
What bluepill?
>But OP crossed the line with an over the top bluepill and that is inadmissible.
What bluepill?
>>391912
>It depends how knowledgeable you are.
My point is that if you're going to proclaim a theory you should be prepared to defend it, and if you're going to boost a sketchy theory from the internet then the burden of proof is on you, not the person you're arguing with. Being skeptical of official sources is one thing; sometimes authorities lie and sometimes they get things wrong. However, if you're going to push an idea that blatantly contradicts huge swaths of accepted science, the burden of proof is much, much higher. If you can't provide anything solid, it's within reason for people to dismiss your position outright, even if they don't know that much about the subject themselves.
> I read many anon affirming the the world is round, but none of them look like understand basic trigonometry
I freely admit that I don't understand basic trigonometry. To tell you the truth, I don't even know what trigonometry actually is. I barely passed every math class I've ever taken, and I stopped taking math after tenth grade because I don't need it and I'm not good at it. However, there are plenty of people out there who do understand trigonometry, as well as many other subjects, who say that the earth is round, and I'm more inclined to believe them than you. The "glober" side of the argument includes pretty much the bulk of all scientists since Galileo; the "flat earther" side consists of a handful of high school dropouts doing meme-math on youtube. Moreover, we're not just talking about theoretical concepts like quarks and black holes whose existence is only proven by mathematics; we're not even talking about concepts that have only been proven in laboratory experiments. Round earth is applied science; technology we use daily is based on the proven assumption that the earth is round. Anyone trying to argue the contrary will need to do better than just pointing to some dingus on YT dangling a plumb, and claiming that somehow it proves gravity isn't real.
>You can't explain a moron that is a moron, because is actually a moron.
I may not know anything about trigonometry, but I know plenty about grammar. Yours is practically a war crime. What are you even trying to say here? Your flag is American; learn to speak English for fuck's sake.
>>391916
I have no frame of reference for understanding what this is or what this proves. I suspect that neither do you. Either explain it or fuck off.
>It depends how knowledgeable you are.
My point is that if you're going to proclaim a theory you should be prepared to defend it, and if you're going to boost a sketchy theory from the internet then the burden of proof is on you, not the person you're arguing with. Being skeptical of official sources is one thing; sometimes authorities lie and sometimes they get things wrong. However, if you're going to push an idea that blatantly contradicts huge swaths of accepted science, the burden of proof is much, much higher. If you can't provide anything solid, it's within reason for people to dismiss your position outright, even if they don't know that much about the subject themselves.
> I read many anon affirming the the world is round, but none of them look like understand basic trigonometry
I freely admit that I don't understand basic trigonometry. To tell you the truth, I don't even know what trigonometry actually is. I barely passed every math class I've ever taken, and I stopped taking math after tenth grade because I don't need it and I'm not good at it. However, there are plenty of people out there who do understand trigonometry, as well as many other subjects, who say that the earth is round, and I'm more inclined to believe them than you. The "glober" side of the argument includes pretty much the bulk of all scientists since Galileo; the "flat earther" side consists of a handful of high school dropouts doing meme-math on youtube. Moreover, we're not just talking about theoretical concepts like quarks and black holes whose existence is only proven by mathematics; we're not even talking about concepts that have only been proven in laboratory experiments. Round earth is applied science; technology we use daily is based on the proven assumption that the earth is round. Anyone trying to argue the contrary will need to do better than just pointing to some dingus on YT dangling a plumb, and claiming that somehow it proves gravity isn't real.
>You can't explain a moron that is a moron, because is actually a moron.
I may not know anything about trigonometry, but I know plenty about grammar. Yours is practically a war crime. What are you even trying to say here? Your flag is American; learn to speak English for fuck's sake.
>>391916
I have no frame of reference for understanding what this is or what this proves. I suspect that neither do you. Either explain it or fuck off.
>>391918
>Either explain it or fuck off.
The infographic explains with hard math that given a distance, a precise, measurable drop in the horizon will be observed, but nothing of this happens when experiments were are done. In simple words, there is not curvature and the establishment's scientists are liars.
>Either explain it or fuck off.
The infographic explains with hard math that given a distance, a precise, measurable drop in the horizon will be observed, but nothing of this happens when experiments were are done. In simple words, there is not curvature and the establishment's scientists are liars.
>>391922
Armchair math, debunked in the other thread as I recall. Meanwhile, these are NASA photographs of the earth taken from space.
Armchair math, debunked in the other thread as I recall. Meanwhile, these are NASA photographs of the earth taken from space.
>>391932
See that's the other thing. Like all of this shit has been debunked multiple times by now, but he still posts the same stale meme and accuses those off disagreement of doing so in bad faith.
See that's the other thing. Like all of this shit has been debunked multiple times by now, but he still posts the same stale meme and accuses those off disagreement of doing so in bad faith.
>>391936
See and then you require others to believe that shit. The shear amount of people that would have to be in on this for it to be true is insane.
See and then you require others to believe that shit. The shear amount of people that would have to be in on this for it to be true is insane.
>>391937
>The shear amount of people that would have to be in on this for it to be true is insane.
Like the covid psyop. The paycheck of doctors and nurses trumps everything, including being co-conspirators and accessories in murder by killing the elders with redemsevir.
>The shear amount of people that would have to be in on this for it to be true is insane.
Like the covid psyop. The paycheck of doctors and nurses trumps everything, including being co-conspirators and accessories in murder by killing the elders with redemsevir.
>>391938
How does anyone benefit by claiming that the world is round when it is flat? What do they stand to gain?
How does anyone benefit by claiming that the world is round when it is flat? What do they stand to gain?
>>391938
All they had to do with covid was take advantage of people's existing panic and uncertainty to convince them to trade their liberties for safety from a simple flu. It's a completely different scale.
All they had to do with covid was take advantage of people's existing panic and uncertainty to convince them to trade their liberties for safety from a simple flu. It's a completely different scale.
>>391922
>but nothing of this happens when experiments were are done
We already went over this, and cited dozens of peer-reviewed, recreatable experiments that showed the opposite of that. You ignored them, of course.
>but nothing of this happens when experiments were are done
We already went over this, and cited dozens of peer-reviewed, recreatable experiments that showed the opposite of that. You ignored them, of course.
>>391939
>Yeah I really don't believe in the depopulation shit either.
Yeah, like covidians are still dying.
>Yeah I really don't believe in the depopulation shit either.
Yeah, like covidians are still dying.
>>391946
Okay, but what says there is depopulation?
There's no empty towns, no visible disruption to economic productivity, no mass graves. On what basis do you say the population is decreasing?
Okay, but what says there is depopulation?
There's no empty towns, no visible disruption to economic productivity, no mass graves. On what basis do you say the population is decreasing?
>>391947
>There's no empty towns
The empty spots are being taking over by non-Whites if you didn't notice.
>There's no empty towns
The empty spots are being taking over by non-Whites if you didn't notice.
>>391949
Have you noticed thousands of people dropping dead in your town before the shitskins came in?
Also, shitskins took the vaxx too.
Have you noticed thousands of people dropping dead in your town before the shitskins came in?
Also, shitskins took the vaxx too.
>>391950
Yeah, and I know personally quite a few with amputations, kidney removal, clots in the lungs and brain, and of course cancer.
Yeah, and I know personally quite a few with amputations, kidney removal, clots in the lungs and brain, and of course cancer.
>>391951
I know hundreds of normies who took the stupid jab, and despite my disdain for idiots signing up to experimental treatments because they're scared of a cold, they're all still alive 4 years later.
Just because the experimental, rushed vaccine had side effects doesn't mean there's been depopulation. You are alleging depopulation with no evidence, nor do you seek out ways to prove it. It's been 4 years since it dropped, ffs.
I know hundreds of normies who took the stupid jab, and despite my disdain for idiots signing up to experimental treatments because they're scared of a cold, they're all still alive 4 years later.
Just because the experimental, rushed vaccine had side effects doesn't mean there's been depopulation. You are alleging depopulation with no evidence, nor do you seek out ways to prove it. It's been 4 years since it dropped, ffs.
>>391953
>I know hundreds of normies who took the stupid jab, and despite my disdain for idiots signing up to experimental treatments because they're scared of a cold, they're all still alive 4 years later.
Me too.
>I know hundreds of normies who took the stupid jab, and despite my disdain for idiots signing up to experimental treatments because they're scared of a cold, they're all still alive 4 years later.
Me too.
>>391944
You people post articles like this as if those trends started after da vaxx...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/11/researchers-document-troubling-rise-in-strokes-in-young-adults-starting-at-age-25/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/well/live/colon-and-rectal-cancers-rising-in-young-people.html
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/11/12/heart-attacks-are-becoming-more-common-in-younger-people-especially-women
You people post articles like this as if those trends started after da vaxx...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/11/researchers-document-troubling-rise-in-strokes-in-young-adults-starting-at-age-25/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/well/live/colon-and-rectal-cancers-rising-in-young-people.html
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/11/12/heart-attacks-are-becoming-more-common-in-younger-people-especially-women
>>391951
I honestly don't know anyone who took it and had problems later. I mean I had a 75 year old uncle diagnosed with cancer 2 years after, but I don't think that can really be attributed to the covid vaccine.
I honestly don't know anyone who took it and had problems later. I mean I had a 75 year old uncle diagnosed with cancer 2 years after, but I don't think that can really be attributed to the covid vaccine.
>>391953
>You are alleging depopulation with no evidence
White people is moving out, or, silently stopping walking the streets. As the number the people on the streets look the same, by gradually they are less and less Whites.
>You are alleging depopulation with no evidence
White people is moving out, or, silently stopping walking the streets. As the number the people on the streets look the same, by gradually they are less and less Whites.
>>391957
>As the number the people on the streets look the same, by gradually they are less and less Whites.
That trend was going on long before the vaxx. Kind of why most of us moved to the big bad far right in the first place.
>As the number the people on the streets look the same, by gradually they are less and less Whites.
That trend was going on long before the vaxx. Kind of why most of us moved to the big bad far right in the first place.
>>391958
>That trend was going on long before the vaxx.
Correct, but accelerated to match speeds after the vaxx.
>That trend was going on long before the vaxx.
Correct, but accelerated to match speeds after the vaxx.
>>391961
Really? I have to commute to a big city and traffic hasn't gotten any better nor are any of my vaxxed coworkers dead. You sure you aren't engaging in pattern seeking?
Really? I have to commute to a big city and traffic hasn't gotten any better nor are any of my vaxxed coworkers dead. You sure you aren't engaging in pattern seeking?
>>391963
>You sure you aren't engaging in pattern seeking?
Seriously? Is noticing now called pattern seeking? Gimma a break.
>You sure you aren't engaging in pattern seeking?
Seriously? Is noticing now called pattern seeking? Gimma a break.
Gotta go. Night frens.
>>391957
This was a thing even before the jab.
And that's not depopulation.
And moving out is not the same as dying.
>gradually
It's been 5 years, and everything looks more or less the same.
>>391959
With what evidence do you claim this? Anecdote?
>>391961
So it is anecdote.
>>391964
Seeking patterns is not the same as noticing them. It's chasing smoke in mirrors.
This was a thing even before the jab.
And that's not depopulation.
And moving out is not the same as dying.
>gradually
It's been 5 years, and everything looks more or less the same.
>>391959
With what evidence do you claim this? Anecdote?
>>391961
So it is anecdote.
>>391964
Seeking patterns is not the same as noticing them. It's chasing smoke in mirrors.
Oh! I see you've all met BoomBoom
>>391966
>I think you are looking for shapes in clouds.
Those are chemtrails, and their shape is engineered specifically to amplify 5G waves.
>I think you are looking for shapes in clouds.
Those are chemtrails, and their shape is engineered specifically to amplify 5G waves.
>>390847
>OP
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
Okay. Is this actually true? Let's find out.
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>OP
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
Okay. Is this actually true? Let's find out.
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>>392017
>Wartime propaganda
Well, even you are blind, not informed, a jew, or may be, just may be a shill willingly ignoring historical facts while calling them "propaganda". I say you are not stupid, but malicious instead (a repugnant shill is called).
Anyways, it is a reproduction from 1934, one year after the jews declared war on Germany and 5 years before Germany begun her intervention in Poland.
>Wartime propaganda
Well, even you are blind, not informed, a jew, or may be, just may be a shill willingly ignoring historical facts while calling them "propaganda". I say you are not stupid, but malicious instead (a repugnant shill is called).
Anyways, it is a reproduction from 1934, one year after the jews declared war on Germany and 5 years before Germany begun her intervention in Poland.
>>392020
I would still call it wartime propaganda. Everyone knew what was coming. And a shill, really? Like you understand there are plenty of reasons to hate the kikes aside from retarded baby eating conspiracies, right? I can look at their ethnonepotistic attitude in industry and their hypocritical disavowing of the same behavior in other communities. I can watch as they use media and banking institutions to fuck over other communities for their benefit. I can read polls on how many Israelis agree with the "amalek" policy. Ect. All very observable and I don't have to believe in some secrete satanic society to see any of that.
I would still call it wartime propaganda. Everyone knew what was coming. And a shill, really? Like you understand there are plenty of reasons to hate the kikes aside from retarded baby eating conspiracies, right? I can look at their ethnonepotistic attitude in industry and their hypocritical disavowing of the same behavior in other communities. I can watch as they use media and banking institutions to fuck over other communities for their benefit. I can read polls on how many Israelis agree with the "amalek" policy. Ect. All very observable and I don't have to believe in some secrete satanic society to see any of that.
>>392021
>All very observable and I don't have to believe in some secrete satanic society to see any of that.
I read the pics and they're not about theories at all, they mention names, dates, places. If you don't believe them is because you want to.
Your choice to search for that data to confirm it is always there.
>All very observable and I don't have to believe in some secrete satanic society to see any of that.
I read the pics and they're not about theories at all, they mention names, dates, places. If you don't believe them is because you want to.
Your choice to search for that data to confirm it is always there.
>>392022
These pics rely on cases where jews confessed under torture like with Simon of Trent or Father Thomas.
https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/display/document/obo-9780195399301/obo-9780195399301-0433.xml
https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/5734456
Again plenty of reasons to hate kikes without the secret satanic society shit. I don't need to believe in that nonsense to notice the pattern with people like Noel Ignatiev, Barbra Spectre, Tim Wise, and other (((fellow white people)))
These pics rely on cases where jews confessed under torture like with Simon of Trent or Father Thomas.
https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/display/document/obo-9780195399301/obo-9780195399301-0433.xml
https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/5734456
Again plenty of reasons to hate kikes without the secret satanic society shit. I don't need to believe in that nonsense to notice the pattern with people like Noel Ignatiev, Barbra Spectre, Tim Wise, and other (((fellow white people)))
>>392024
Yeah dude that was a thing in the middle ages. That doesn't mean that kikes are our friends as I have said many times now. It means I don't have a good reason to believe kikes eat babies. Plenty of reasons to believe they are against the interests of White people, but not so much on the baby eating.
Yeah dude that was a thing in the middle ages. That doesn't mean that kikes are our friends as I have said many times now. It means I don't have a good reason to believe kikes eat babies. Plenty of reasons to believe they are against the interests of White people, but not so much on the baby eating.
>>392023
I wish you would have the same tenacity to defend White People instead of shielding those who prey on us.
I wish you would have the same tenacity to defend White People instead of shielding those who prey on us.
>>392026
Why would you think I don't defend White people? Because I don't believe kikes eat babies? That's retarded. You're retarded.
Why would you think I don't defend White people? Because I don't believe kikes eat babies? That's retarded. You're retarded.
>>392012
>christian vangard
>infra-abrahamic bickering article in a tabloid
>christ-killing jews
All the things the nazi party could've accomplished if they weren't taken over and destroyed from the inside-out by christians...
>christian vangard
>infra-abrahamic bickering article in a tabloid
>christ-killing jews
All the things the nazi party could've accomplished if they weren't taken over and destroyed from the inside-out by christians...
>>392032
Don't put that on Christians. If the Nazis were intended to succeed, they wouldn't have had to abscond to Argentina
Don't put that on Christians. If the Nazis were intended to succeed, they wouldn't have had to abscond to Argentina
>>392026
What makes you think he's doesn't defend white people just because he doesn't but into the satanic cannibalism conspiracy? It's not pro-jew to be skeptical of cannibalism conspiracies.
This is exactly what OP meant about conspiritard purity spiralling. He disagreed with you on a relatively far-fetched conspiracy, and you immediately accuse him of being anti-white.
What makes you think he's doesn't defend white people just because he doesn't but into the satanic cannibalism conspiracy? It's not pro-jew to be skeptical of cannibalism conspiracies.
This is exactly what OP meant about conspiritard purity spiralling. He disagreed with you on a relatively far-fetched conspiracy, and you immediately accuse him of being anti-white.
>>392038
>satanic cannibalism conspiracy?
>conspiracy
Read a book nigger.
Post >>392012 refers to historical facts. Now the jews control police groups across countries and is unlikely you will hear today anything about it.
>and you immediately accuse him of being anti-white.
Knock it off with the gaslighting.
I say what I see and I call you by what you are, a shill and anti-White.
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1st pic is the wisdom of our ancestors.
2nd pic is a reproduction of the jewish 'Heeb Magazine' depicting jews murdering and cannibalizing gentiles - (2009)
>satanic cannibalism conspiracy?
>conspiracy
Read a book nigger.
Post >>392012 refers to historical facts. Now the jews control police groups across countries and is unlikely you will hear today anything about it.
>and you immediately accuse him of being anti-white.
Knock it off with the gaslighting.
I say what I see and I call you by what you are, a shill and anti-White.
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1st pic is the wisdom of our ancestors.
2nd pic is a reproduction of the jewish 'Heeb Magazine' depicting jews murdering and cannibalizing gentiles - (2009)
>>392049
>You're a shill for not believing in satanic baby eaters. If you find the torture confession evidence as lacking you must hate white people!
Lol. Lmao even. The fact you think there is such an abundance of shills on mlpol of all places speaks to your diminished mental state. I hate kike psychiatrists, but you might benefit from antipsychotics if you think this place is filled with government agents.
>You're a shill for not believing in satanic baby eaters. If you find the torture confession evidence as lacking you must hate white people!
Lol. Lmao even. The fact you think there is such an abundance of shills on mlpol of all places speaks to your diminished mental state. I hate kike psychiatrists, but you might benefit from antipsychotics if you think this place is filled with government agents.
>>392054
You were given counter arguments and you shouted "shill" when they were presented. Not really a healthy coping mechanism for your issues.
You were given counter arguments and you shouted "shill" when they were presented. Not really a healthy coping mechanism for your issues.
>>392049
>Knock it off with the gaslighting
Do you even know what that word means?
>I say what I see and I call you by what you are, a shill and anti-White.
Oh yes, being skeptical of conspiracies posted by Facebook boomers is totally anti-white behavior. I was totally paid to post here, because Jews totally pay people to post on sites with only a dozen active users.
I don't even deny the Jewish cannibalism thing; that's an idea I'm open to. I just think you're full of shit for thinking the other Anon is "anti-white" for being skeptical of it.
>Knock it off with the gaslighting
Do you even know what that word means?
>I say what I see and I call you by what you are, a shill and anti-White.
Oh yes, being skeptical of conspiracies posted by Facebook boomers is totally anti-white behavior. I was totally paid to post here, because Jews totally pay people to post on sites with only a dozen active users.
I don't even deny the Jewish cannibalism thing; that's an idea I'm open to. I just think you're full of shit for thinking the other Anon is "anti-white" for being skeptical of it.
>>392054
You didn't even address his argument.
>character assassination
You called him an anti-white shill first, you absolute hypocrite. That's character assassination.
You didn't even address his argument.
>character assassination
You called him an anti-white shill first, you absolute hypocrite. That's character assassination.
>>392024
He just listed six different reasons for why he hates Jews. See >>392021 He is clearly not pro-Jew.
This is exactly what OP meant by purity spiralling. You meet another guy who hates Jews, but you ostracize him for not believing 100% of the conspiracies that you do. The result of that is a number of allies against the Jews.
He just listed six different reasons for why he hates Jews. See >>392021 He is clearly not pro-Jew.
This is exactly what OP meant by purity spiralling. You meet another guy who hates Jews, but you ostracize him for not believing 100% of the conspiracies that you do. The result of that is a number of allies against the Jews.
>>392060
>This is exactly what OP meant by purity spiralling.
OP is beyond salvation and calling him out is a community service.
If You See Something, Say Something.
>This is exactly what OP meant by purity spiralling.
OP is beyond salvation and calling him out is a community service.
If You See Something, Say Something.
>>392061
How is a person who hates Jews for six different reasons a "Jew apologist", just because they're skeptical of one additional reason? Explain that logic.
How is a person who hates Jews for six different reasons a "Jew apologist", just because they're skeptical of one additional reason? Explain that logic.
>>392065
It shows that they actually need reasons and not just vibes and desire for validation, and that they won't drink koolaid with the rest of the bandwagon when it's time to get raptured by aliens.
It shows that they actually need reasons and not just vibes and desire for validation, and that they won't drink koolaid with the rest of the bandwagon when it's time to get raptured by aliens.
>>392072
True, there are dozens, if not hundreds of reasons to hate Jews.
That doesn't mean that an Anon is pro-Jew for not believing one particular reason.
True, there are dozens, if not hundreds of reasons to hate Jews.
That doesn't mean that an Anon is pro-Jew for not believing one particular reason.
>>390847
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
From the kikes' mouth, Israel’s Satanic Elite Revealed.
B-but that's schizo stuff.
https://voxday.net/2025/06/13/israels-satanic-elite-revealed/
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/04/23/bottom-of-darkness-children-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies-expose-the-horrors/
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-856407
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
From the kikes' mouth, Israel’s Satanic Elite Revealed.
B-but that's schizo stuff.
https://voxday.net/2025/06/13/israels-satanic-elite-revealed/
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/04/23/bottom-of-darkness-children-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies-expose-the-horrors/
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-856407
>>392358
These articles do prove that there are some fucked up people in the halls of power, but they don't exactly show that jews are satanic baby eaters. Ritual abuse is horrific, but it isn't a uniquely jewish phenomenon. Christian priests notably catholics and Muslims have been known to do similar shit. These kinds of people use their positions of power to hide what they are doing and network with other fucked up people. In the halls of power intelligence agencies find these sick fucks easy to blackmail and therefore useful so the problem doesn't get fixed. I will acknowledge that fucked up networks of human trafficking exist, but I do not think they control the world or are representative of all of the elites or even kikes for that matter. And think about this, why would jpost even post an article about this if those kinds of people were controlling the world?
These articles do prove that there are some fucked up people in the halls of power, but they don't exactly show that jews are satanic baby eaters. Ritual abuse is horrific, but it isn't a uniquely jewish phenomenon. Christian priests notably catholics and Muslims have been known to do similar shit. These kinds of people use their positions of power to hide what they are doing and network with other fucked up people. In the halls of power intelligence agencies find these sick fucks easy to blackmail and therefore useful so the problem doesn't get fixed. I will acknowledge that fucked up networks of human trafficking exist, but I do not think they control the world or are representative of all of the elites or even kikes for that matter. And think about this, why would jpost even post an article about this if those kinds of people were controlling the world?
>>392359
>argument from incredulity
>#notalljews
Really? No shit, it isn't all jews, just like all muslims aren't involved in rape/grooming gangs.
It's always 'just' the ones who can get away with it
>argument from incredulity
>#notalljews
Really? No shit, it isn't all jews, just like all muslims aren't involved in rape/grooming gangs.
It's always 'just' the ones who can get away with it
>>392372
Again I'm not saying child abuse doesn't happen, but I don't think a satanic child abuse cult runs the planet. That is what I am getting at here. This thread is about how people not believing the most hyperbolic schizophrenic takes are often viewed as disloyal.
Again I'm not saying child abuse doesn't happen, but I don't think a satanic child abuse cult runs the planet. That is what I am getting at here. This thread is about how people not believing the most hyperbolic schizophrenic takes are often viewed as disloyal.
>>392374
No one has presently suggested disloyalty, what's being alleged is naivete. You haven't even made an argument, all you have done is display disbelief.
Lets try and put this another way.
What percentage of pedophiles commit crimes against children? Is it all of them all the time, or do they wait until they think they can get away with it?
>are you suggesting that little old jewish ladies will commit satanic child sacrifice
No, but like muslims and their rape gangs, they WILL support the ones who DO, either openly or tacitly, turning a blind eye.
No one has presently suggested disloyalty, what's being alleged is naivete. You haven't even made an argument, all you have done is display disbelief.
Lets try and put this another way.
What percentage of pedophiles commit crimes against children? Is it all of them all the time, or do they wait until they think they can get away with it?
>are you suggesting that little old jewish ladies will commit satanic child sacrifice
No, but like muslims and their rape gangs, they WILL support the ones who DO, either openly or tacitly, turning a blind eye.
>>392375
>What percentage of pedophiles commit crimes against children? Is it all of them all the time, or do they wait until they think they can get away with it?
Of course they wait until they get away with it.
>No, but like muslims and their rape gangs, they WILL support the ones who DO, either openly or tacitly, turning a blind eye.
I agree with this 100% and this is why I don't want these people anywhere near my country.
>What percentage of pedophiles commit crimes against children? Is it all of them all the time, or do they wait until they think they can get away with it?
Of course they wait until they get away with it.
>No, but like muslims and their rape gangs, they WILL support the ones who DO, either openly or tacitly, turning a blind eye.
I agree with this 100% and this is why I don't want these people anywhere near my country.
>>392375
>No, but like muslims and their rape gangs, they WILL support the ones who DO, either openly or tacitly, turning a blind eye.
And this is true of anything with kikes. Especially bad business practices and their nepotism makes the problem orders of magnitude worse than other ethnic groups. Again look at the original post.
>No, but like muslims and their rape gangs, they WILL support the ones who DO, either openly or tacitly, turning a blind eye.
And this is true of anything with kikes. Especially bad business practices and their nepotism makes the problem orders of magnitude worse than other ethnic groups. Again look at the original post.
>>392359
People that downplay JEWS have 0 grasp on todays politics.
Jews/judaism are not just random people that get in to positions of power.
It is basically oldest running criminal/evil organization in the world.
People that downplay JEWS have 0 grasp on todays politics.
Jews/judaism are not just random people that get in to positions of power.
It is basically oldest running criminal/evil organization in the world.
>you tricked me
Not for the first time ^_~
Not for the first time ^_~
>>392379
I do not downplay the jew. I believe they are not a "evil spiritual" phenomenon, but a biological phenomenon similar to slave making ants. When social structures get large enough there is an incentive for social parasitism and culture of the jew is adapted to social parasitism. The slave making ants do not enslave and destroy host colonies because they do so out of malice or allegiances to dark ant gods they do so because they are social parasites who can only survive by taking the resources of working ants. Similarly the jew is adapted to take the resources of other groups of people who do real work. Their culture and religion bind them together and give them license to behave like shit to their hosts and they do then the host has an "immune response" where they are removed and then they adapt new methods to evade the immune system. If the immune system does clear out an infection the host dies.
I do not downplay the jew. I believe they are not a "evil spiritual" phenomenon, but a biological phenomenon similar to slave making ants. When social structures get large enough there is an incentive for social parasitism and culture of the jew is adapted to social parasitism. The slave making ants do not enslave and destroy host colonies because they do so out of malice or allegiances to dark ant gods they do so because they are social parasites who can only survive by taking the resources of working ants. Similarly the jew is adapted to take the resources of other groups of people who do real work. Their culture and religion bind them together and give them license to behave like shit to their hosts and they do then the host has an "immune response" where they are removed and then they adapt new methods to evade the immune system. If the immune system does clear out an infection the host dies.
>>392394
I know some people here do not like Wikipedia, but these are worth reading.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave-making_ant
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host%E2%80%93parasite_coevolution
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism#Social_parasitism
I know some people here do not like Wikipedia, but these are worth reading.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave-making_ant
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host%E2%80%93parasite_coevolution
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism#Social_parasitism
>>392402
I am not religious, but you see how someone could view them from a non-religious standpoint and still view them as a civilization ending threat? Nothing I said downplays the severity of the enemy.
I am not religious, but you see how someone could view them from a non-religious standpoint and still view them as a civilization ending threat? Nothing I said downplays the severity of the enemy.
>>392403
>but you see how someone could view them from a non-religious standpoint
Given how religious thinking works I'm pretty sure they can't or don't want to. Like their continued ability to remain othered from their ideals and keep them instead on the object of their religion necessarily requires they don't think about how someone not under such bondage might instead think of something. Doing so would risk reclaiming those ideals as their own, being creative with them and destroying that religious understanding.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-art-and-religion
>but you see how someone could view them from a non-religious standpoint
Given how religious thinking works I'm pretty sure they can't or don't want to. Like their continued ability to remain othered from their ideals and keep them instead on the object of their religion necessarily requires they don't think about how someone not under such bondage might instead think of something. Doing so would risk reclaiming those ideals as their own, being creative with them and destroying that religious understanding.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-art-and-religion
>>392487
And niggers. Do you think that anyone is actually accusing people of being jews, niggers, faggots, etc., or is this ordinary anon-board faire?
And niggers. Do you think that anyone is actually accusing people of being jews, niggers, faggots, etc., or is this ordinary anon-board faire?
>>392488
>Do you think that anyone is actually accusing people of being jews, niggers, faggots, etc
Actually, yes. I've been here long enough to know that there are retards here who think that anyone who disagrees with them is a shill.
Whether or not they wholeheartedly believe it is an open question, but the purity spiral persists either way.
>Do you think that anyone is actually accusing people of being jews, niggers, faggots, etc
Actually, yes. I've been here long enough to know that there are retards here who think that anyone who disagrees with them is a shill.
Whether or not they wholeheartedly believe it is an open question, but the purity spiral persists either way.
>>392489
Then you haven't been here for long enough, but you're welcome to your interpretation. I'll suffice to say
>lol, can't handle the bantz
Then you haven't been here for long enough, but you're welcome to your interpretation. I'll suffice to say
>lol, can't handle the bantz
>>392490
It isn't so much "can't handle the bantz" so much as it is there was once a lot more actual political discussion and over time that discussion became shut down when intellectual midgets started shouting "shill shill shill" at any disagreement to avoid having a real discussion or challenging their views.
It isn't so much "can't handle the bantz" so much as it is there was once a lot more actual political discussion and over time that discussion became shut down when intellectual midgets started shouting "shill shill shill" at any disagreement to avoid having a real discussion or challenging their views.
>>392496
I mean if just wanted to be called heretic all day I could just start posting my spiciest takes on reddit until I get banned and make new accounts.
I mean if just wanted to be called heretic all day I could just start posting my spiciest takes on reddit until I get banned and make new accounts.
>>392496
This
It's 2017 /pol/ all over again. Except instead of redditors from /ptg/ (r/The_Donald) it's boomers from Facebook.
This
It's 2017 /pol/ all over again. Except instead of redditors from /ptg/ (r/The_Donald) it's boomers from Facebook.
>>392379
To up-play the problem, that organization includes every abrahamic religion. Go to any christian church and they'll pass around the offering plate and tell you to your face that it's for "defending" Israel and politicians that support israel and various islamic princes with oil rigs and gold mines. Never been to a mosque, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the same deal or similar. And since church attendance is required, you either see the problem and leave the religion entirely, or you stay and that becomes normal to you.
Abrahamism is the organization you're referring to, and limiting it to only jews downplays that. Jews cannot do what they do without christians and islamists, christians can't do what they do without jews, satanists (which is really just a type of christian) and islamists, and islamists can't do what they do without christians and jews. Recognising this is full scope doesn't downplay the role of any trirant composing it, but in fact adds to the list of reasons all three are reprehensible.
To up-play the problem, that organization includes every abrahamic religion. Go to any christian church and they'll pass around the offering plate and tell you to your face that it's for "defending" Israel and politicians that support israel and various islamic princes with oil rigs and gold mines. Never been to a mosque, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the same deal or similar. And since church attendance is required, you either see the problem and leave the religion entirely, or you stay and that becomes normal to you.
Abrahamism is the organization you're referring to, and limiting it to only jews downplays that. Jews cannot do what they do without christians and islamists, christians can't do what they do without jews, satanists (which is really just a type of christian) and islamists, and islamists can't do what they do without christians and jews. Recognising this is full scope doesn't downplay the role of any trirant composing it, but in fact adds to the list of reasons all three are reprehensible.
>>392498
>It's 2017 /pol/ all over again. Except instead of redditors from /ptg/ (r/The_Donald) it's boomers from Facebook.
Holyshit it is and many of the rtd posters were just as retarded as the facebook boomers so they became facebook boomers.
>It's 2017 /pol/ all over again. Except instead of redditors from /ptg/ (r/The_Donald) it's boomers from Facebook.
Holyshit it is and many of the rtd posters were just as retarded as the facebook boomers so they became facebook boomers.
>>392499
>Go to any christian church and they'll pass around the offering plate and tell you to your face that it's for "defending" Israel
This is mostly just American Evangelicals, a sect that has been so transparently subverted by Mossad it's unreal.
And that only really became a thing in the second half of the 20th century: it was a recently-manufactured cultural shift orchestrated by glowniggers.
>Never been to a mosque, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the same deal or similar.
Muslims openly hate Jews, and they double-hate Israel.
>church attendance is required
Not true.
>you either see the problem and leave the religion entirely, or you stay and that becomes normal to you
Or you go to another church that isn't as pozzed.
>Abrahamism is the organization you're referring to
"Abrahamism" is not an organization. It's not even one ideology.
>Jews cannot do what they do without christians and islamists
Jews have been doing what they do in the Egyptian, Roman and Persian empires, long before those religions rose.
They thrive in modern secular society too.
>christians can't do what they do without jews, satanists (which is really just a type of christian)
How? Christians survived in Europe without contact with Jews, Muslims or "Satanists" for thousands of years.
>islamists can't do what they do without christians and jews
Most Muslim countries have no Christians or Jews at all. They get a long just fine with their barbaric sandnigger lives without Christians or Jews.
>>392501
Ikr
>Go to any christian church and they'll pass around the offering plate and tell you to your face that it's for "defending" Israel
This is mostly just American Evangelicals, a sect that has been so transparently subverted by Mossad it's unreal.
And that only really became a thing in the second half of the 20th century: it was a recently-manufactured cultural shift orchestrated by glowniggers.
>Never been to a mosque, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the same deal or similar.
Muslims openly hate Jews, and they double-hate Israel.
>church attendance is required
Not true.
>you either see the problem and leave the religion entirely, or you stay and that becomes normal to you
Or you go to another church that isn't as pozzed.
>Abrahamism is the organization you're referring to
"Abrahamism" is not an organization. It's not even one ideology.
>Jews cannot do what they do without christians and islamists
Jews have been doing what they do in the Egyptian, Roman and Persian empires, long before those religions rose.
They thrive in modern secular society too.
>christians can't do what they do without jews, satanists (which is really just a type of christian)
How? Christians survived in Europe without contact with Jews, Muslims or "Satanists" for thousands of years.
>islamists can't do what they do without christians and jews
Most Muslim countries have no Christians or Jews at all. They get a long just fine with their barbaric sandnigger lives without Christians or Jews.
>>392501
Ikr
>>392502
>This is mostly just American Evangelicals, a sect that has been so transparently subverted by Mossad it's unreal.
>it was a recently-manufactured cultural shift orchestrated by glowniggers.
Oh definitely, they glow as bright as a gun show. There's a good essay I read about that, in fact, if I find it I'll link.
>Muslims openly hate Jews, and they double-hate Israel.
>Most Muslim countries have no Christians or Jews at all. They get a long just fine with their barbaric sandnigger lives without Christians or Jews.
Well I'll look into that. I've sorta skipped over looking into what muslims are about since they're like, sand bandits with oil. Surely there's not much to them other than being in a nice spot geographically.
>church attendance is required
Well that's what the churches I attended said, is that an evangelical thing?
>Or you go to another church that isn't as pozzed.
My christianity phase was a cycle of going to every church on the map in my city and ecountering the same shit. If it's a matter of pozzed and unpozzed then the latter is geographically unavailable to me.
>"Abrahamism" is not an organization. It's not even one ideology.
All three will stab ya if you're pagan, and pagan is just anything non-abrahamic. If not an institution or ideology proper, they still cooperate when it comes to anti-paganism.
>Jews have been doing what they do in the Egyptian, Roman and Persian empires, long before those religions rose. They thrive in modern secular society too.
>How? Christians survived in Europe without contact with Jews, Muslims [...] for thousands of years.
Mostly talking about the modern institutions of these two.
>or "Satanists"
Is it a mainly evangelical thing to point at everything as satanic and conspiracies of authorities doing awful shit because of satanism (rather than economics)? Seems like christians need actual satanists around to keep the hype up.
>This is mostly just American Evangelicals, a sect that has been so transparently subverted by Mossad it's unreal.
>it was a recently-manufactured cultural shift orchestrated by glowniggers.
Oh definitely, they glow as bright as a gun show. There's a good essay I read about that, in fact, if I find it I'll link.
>Muslims openly hate Jews, and they double-hate Israel.
>Most Muslim countries have no Christians or Jews at all. They get a long just fine with their barbaric sandnigger lives without Christians or Jews.
Well I'll look into that. I've sorta skipped over looking into what muslims are about since they're like, sand bandits with oil. Surely there's not much to them other than being in a nice spot geographically.
>church attendance is required
Well that's what the churches I attended said, is that an evangelical thing?
>Or you go to another church that isn't as pozzed.
My christianity phase was a cycle of going to every church on the map in my city and ecountering the same shit. If it's a matter of pozzed and unpozzed then the latter is geographically unavailable to me.
>"Abrahamism" is not an organization. It's not even one ideology.
All three will stab ya if you're pagan, and pagan is just anything non-abrahamic. If not an institution or ideology proper, they still cooperate when it comes to anti-paganism.
>Jews have been doing what they do in the Egyptian, Roman and Persian empires, long before those religions rose. They thrive in modern secular society too.
>How? Christians survived in Europe without contact with Jews, Muslims [...] for thousands of years.
Mostly talking about the modern institutions of these two.
>or "Satanists"
Is it a mainly evangelical thing to point at everything as satanic and conspiracies of authorities doing awful shit because of satanism (rather than economics)? Seems like christians need actual satanists around to keep the hype up.
>>392502
In one way I am glad that ethnonationalism has become adopted by normies but it seems to have been adopted by some of the most retarded normies and I suspect that is because low IQ Whites are especially disenfranchised.
In one way I am glad that ethnonationalism has become adopted by normies but it seems to have been adopted by some of the most retarded normies and I suspect that is because low IQ Whites are especially disenfranchised.
>>392505
Oldfag /pol/ users in 2017 described this as the devil's bargain: they won the election in 2016, but the result of that was being flooded with redditors.
Similarly, in 2021 the push to get people to shake off their blind trust in government, media and academic institutions largely succeeded in the aftermath of 2020 lockdowns, but the result was Q-tier boomers inviting themselves into right wing online spaces and shitting up the place.
Oldfag /pol/ users in 2017 described this as the devil's bargain: they won the election in 2016, but the result of that was being flooded with redditors.
Similarly, in 2021 the push to get people to shake off their blind trust in government, media and academic institutions largely succeeded in the aftermath of 2020 lockdowns, but the result was Q-tier boomers inviting themselves into right wing online spaces and shitting up the place.
>>392507
I remember this. I first started using /pol/ back in 2013. It has really gone down hill since then. They fall of 8chan was really devastating for discussion on the far right too. It's crazy to think about but /mlpol/ is probably the longest surviving alt-/pol/. The rest all got taken down due to shooters or drama.
I remember this. I first started using /pol/ back in 2013. It has really gone down hill since then. They fall of 8chan was really devastating for discussion on the far right too. It's crazy to think about but /mlpol/ is probably the longest surviving alt-/pol/. The rest all got taken down due to shooters or drama.
>>392507
This was among several of the - let's not call them errors, let's call them 'consequences' - that 4/mlpol/ made glaringly obvious, and is part-and-parcel to why we're here now and why there's a "here" to be 'now'
This was among several of the - let's not call them errors, let's call them 'consequences' - that 4/mlpol/ made glaringly obvious, and is part-and-parcel to why we're here now and why there's a "here" to be 'now'
>>392526
>and is part-and-parcel to why we're here now and why there's a "here" to be 'now'
Exactly we left /pol/ because it had become shit. Let's try to prevent this place sharing the same fate.
>and is part-and-parcel to why we're here now and why there's a "here" to be 'now'
Exactly we left /pol/ because it had become shit. Let's try to prevent this place sharing the same fate.
>>392528
Haaa, you don't know. This place will have it's own struggles, but it is in no danger of turning out like /pol/, in that you can take heart
Haaa, you don't know. This place will have it's own struggles, but it is in no danger of turning out like /pol/, in that you can take heart
Some depopulation stuff.
>>392539
None of these prove anything. Image one is some random on twitter. The second one is just Pfizer pitching about their product. And even the third one doesn't show that there is some secret plant to depopulate the planet. If you were an elite and the fertility crisis was ongoing and your immigration solution didn't work would you not bring that up at a meeting?
None of these prove anything. Image one is some random on twitter. The second one is just Pfizer pitching about their product. And even the third one doesn't show that there is some secret plant to depopulate the planet. If you were an elite and the fertility crisis was ongoing and your immigration solution didn't work would you not bring that up at a meeting?
>>392536
>This place will have it's own struggles, but it is in no danger of turning out like /pol/
You should not assume that /mlpol/ is immune to /pol/'s problems.
/mlpol/ may be too obscure to be completely overrun by bots and redditors, but a handful of reddit/Facebook phenotypes who are not deterred by the horse porn can shit the place up all the same, drive away contentfags, and generally make the board unpleasant and unproductive to use. It's important to be aware of that and not take site quality for granted.
>>392571
Do you have an actual counterargument?
>This place will have it's own struggles, but it is in no danger of turning out like /pol/
You should not assume that /mlpol/ is immune to /pol/'s problems.
/mlpol/ may be too obscure to be completely overrun by bots and redditors, but a handful of reddit/Facebook phenotypes who are not deterred by the horse porn can shit the place up all the same, drive away contentfags, and generally make the board unpleasant and unproductive to use. It's important to be aware of that and not take site quality for granted.
>>392571
Do you have an actual counterargument?
>>392571
Post something more convincing then social media screencaps if you want people to believe you.
Post something more convincing then social media screencaps if you want people to believe you.
>>392572
>You should not assume that /mlpol/ is immune to /pol/'s problems
Who's assuming? Maybe you haven't had the pleasure, but this site is operated and maintained by some of the most stalwart, right, and proper niggers I've ever had the chance to piss off and fuck with. If you think
>a handful of reddit/Facebook phenotypes
have any chance of degrading the site (other than shitting it up occasionally with gay-ass flat earth memes) then you are very silly.
>>392573
>>392574
>convince me
This mentality will avail you nothing. If you need 'convincing' at THIS stage in the game, maybe you're not ready for the 501 class? Maybe you should have studied?
>You should not assume that /mlpol/ is immune to /pol/'s problems
Who's assuming? Maybe you haven't had the pleasure, but this site is operated and maintained by some of the most stalwart, right, and proper niggers I've ever had the chance to piss off and fuck with. If you think
>a handful of reddit/Facebook phenotypes
have any chance of degrading the site (other than shitting it up occasionally with gay-ass flat earth memes) then you are very silly.
>>392573
>>392574
>convince me
This mentality will avail you nothing. If you need 'convincing' at THIS stage in the game, maybe you're not ready for the 501 class? Maybe you should have studied?
>>392577
>If you need 'convincing' at THIS stage in the game
If you post a claim, you should be ready to defend and support that claim under scrutiny. That's what arguments are all about. You want us to all bob our heads and clap like seals when you post "Nanobots, amirite, my fellow Q-pedes?", despite putting in zero effort to support your claim?
Don't just post random Facebook memes, and then act offended when people don't immediately believe you, or if they come to a separate conclusion after doing their own research.
>maybe you're not ready for the 501 class? Maybe you should have studied?
>YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO DEBATE ME! EDUCATE YOURSELF!
This is the exact same arguments that midwit communists make when you ask them to defend their positions, and then they deflect and say that you can't argue with them because you haven't read some obscure socialist book from 70 years ago.
>have any chance of degrading the site
Yeah, they absolutely can. It happened to Ponychan, and it can happen to us too if we let it.
>If you need 'convincing' at THIS stage in the game
If you post a claim, you should be ready to defend and support that claim under scrutiny. That's what arguments are all about. You want us to all bob our heads and clap like seals when you post "Nanobots, amirite, my fellow Q-pedes?", despite putting in zero effort to support your claim?
Don't just post random Facebook memes, and then act offended when people don't immediately believe you, or if they come to a separate conclusion after doing their own research.
>maybe you're not ready for the 501 class? Maybe you should have studied?
>YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO DEBATE ME! EDUCATE YOURSELF!
This is the exact same arguments that midwit communists make when you ask them to defend their positions, and then they deflect and say that you can't argue with them because you haven't read some obscure socialist book from 70 years ago.
>have any chance of degrading the site
Yeah, they absolutely can. It happened to Ponychan, and it can happen to us too if we let it.
>>392577
>This mentality will avail you nothing. If you need 'convincing' at THIS stage in the game, maybe you're not ready for the 501 class? Maybe you should have studied?
IT'S NOT MY JOB TO EDUCATE YOU, CHUD!
>This mentality will avail you nothing. If you need 'convincing' at THIS stage in the game, maybe you're not ready for the 501 class? Maybe you should have studied?
IT'S NOT MY JOB TO EDUCATE YOU, CHUD!
>>392580
It is in fact not his job, but he shouldn't expect us to all agree with him if he's not willing to support his position.
Idk why he'd even post his position if he's not interested in persuading people.
It is in fact not his job, but he shouldn't expect us to all agree with him if he's not willing to support his position.
Idk why he'd even post his position if he's not interested in persuading people.
>>392582
Yes, I know. It's a classic midwit deflection. It's not exclusive to liberals though, as we can see here.
Yes, I know. It's a classic midwit deflection. It's not exclusive to liberals though, as we can see here.
>>392581
You think I expect agreement? LOL
>>392580
Yes, petulance has clearly worked, keep at it
>>392582
You presumed to be making fun, but you were actually illustrating how debased your mentality is. Good luck with that.
>>392583
You lot seem to think that throwing a tantrum will get you what you desire. Throwing a tantrum CAN work, but it's a very specific set of circumstances, and should not be considered the 'go-to' method.
You think I expect agreement? LOL
>>392580
Yes, petulance has clearly worked, keep at it
>>392582
You presumed to be making fun, but you were actually illustrating how debased your mentality is. Good luck with that.
>>392583
You lot seem to think that throwing a tantrum will get you what you desire. Throwing a tantrum CAN work, but it's a very specific set of circumstances, and should not be considered the 'go-to' method.
>>392586
If you want to be worth the effort, you'll need to do better than posture like a flat-earther
If you want to be worth the effort, you'll need to do better than posture like a flat-earther
>>392587
You're the one posturing. You have yet to back up your positions with anything better than social media screencaps. If you want to post twitter screencaps might I suggest 4chan?
You're the one posturing. You have yet to back up your positions with anything better than social media screencaps. If you want to post twitter screencaps might I suggest 4chan?
>>392571
>Stop questioning the anti-vaxx doctrine.
see the article >>391370 linked to. You have the uphill battle of people being skeptical of you as you push rhetoric that feds have used as a bioweapon in other counties and likely here. You are in agreement with many neoliberal conservative politicians with Heritage Foundation and Epstein file member ties. You are not the skeptic in this scenario.
>Stop questioning the anti-vaxx doctrine.
see the article >>391370 linked to. You have the uphill battle of people being skeptical of you as you push rhetoric that feds have used as a bioweapon in other counties and likely here. You are in agreement with many neoliberal conservative politicians with Heritage Foundation and Epstein file member ties. You are not the skeptic in this scenario.
>>392597
You wanna try that again? I'll link which posts ITT are mine, but its none of the ones you're talking about. Hint: Pinkie clown and the boop
You wanna try that again? I'll link which posts ITT are mine, but its none of the ones you're talking about. Hint: Pinkie clown and the boop
>>392611
Then why were you replying to us when we were talking to the other guy?
You're wasting our time.
Then why were you replying to us when we were talking to the other guy?
You're wasting our time.
>>392569
Your below provincial mindset is astonishing. Would you like to post in New York Times' comments section instead?
Your below provincial mindset is astonishing. Would you like to post in New York Times' comments section instead?
>>392573
>if you want people to believe you
Your entitled to disbelief and it is up to you what to do about it.
>if you want people to believe you
Your entitled to disbelief and it is up to you what to do about it.
>>392611
Yeah I had a feeling this was ninjaz.
>>392615
Notice how one side of the debate provides academic sources and tells the other side "you are wrong" when others disagree and the side of the debate the post social media screencaps and shout "YOU'RE A SHILL!" when others disagree. This is a political discussion forum only one of those sides is trying to have good faith discussion .
Yeah I had a feeling this was ninjaz.
>>392615
Notice how one side of the debate provides academic sources and tells the other side "you are wrong" when others disagree and the side of the debate the post social media screencaps and shout "YOU'RE A SHILL!" when others disagree. This is a political discussion forum only one of those sides is trying to have good faith discussion .
>>392617
It's simple; to try to make the opposing viewpoint stop talking. They don't want to be challenged.
It's simple; to try to make the opposing viewpoint stop talking. They don't want to be challenged.
>>392620
Wrong post.
Also, those sources are still more substantial than random social media screencaps, and instead of dismissing the sources outright you should read them and point out their mistakes and flaws.
Wrong post.
Also, those sources are still more substantial than random social media screencaps, and instead of dismissing the sources outright you should read them and point out their mistakes and flaws.
>>392618
>academic sources
Those have to be taken with a extra grain of salt. Fake science is widespread.
>academic sources
Those have to be taken with a extra grain of salt. Fake science is widespread.
>>392622
And you don't seem to get the point. The point is only one side of the debate is trying to have a discussion the other side is trying to make those having the discussion shut up.
And you don't seem to get the point. The point is only one side of the debate is trying to have a discussion the other side is trying to make those having the discussion shut up.
>>392618
>I had a feeling it was
Uh huh, that explains why you lied
>It was you who posted the Facebook memes without backing up your points
>I had a feeling it was
Uh huh, that explains why you lied
>It was you who posted the Facebook memes without backing up your points
>>392622
All sources require "salt," you have to read all things critically, and it's an insult to both yourself and the subject not to. Academic sources *want* you to be critical of them so they can be further refined.
All sources require "salt," you have to read all things critically, and it's an insult to both yourself and the subject not to. Academic sources *want* you to be critical of them so they can be further refined.
>>392632
>Academic sources *want* you to be critical of them
Not quite. The establishment already refused scrutiny with slogans like "the science is settled" and outright fleeing debate.
>Academic sources *want* you to be critical of them
Not quite. The establishment already refused scrutiny with slogans like "the science is settled" and outright fleeing debate.
>>392635
But it is strange to me how much you seem to hate academic sources, but you have absolutely zero problem with social media screenshots or blogs. It is certainly possible to put your thumb on the scale in academia, but it takes even less effort to make shit up on a blog or social media.
But it is strange to me how much you seem to hate academic sources, but you have absolutely zero problem with social media screenshots or blogs. It is certainly possible to put your thumb on the scale in academia, but it takes even less effort to make shit up on a blog or social media.
>>392638
You are literally getting upset because people are asking for better sources than social media posts and blogs.
You are literally getting upset because people are asking for better sources than social media posts and blogs.
>>392641
>people are asking for better sources
Peer reviewed, settled science, consensus, are all buzzterms meaning TRUST US, we know and are better than you and you should have faith on us. Like a religion.
>people are asking for better sources
Peer reviewed, settled science, consensus, are all buzzterms meaning TRUST US, we know and are better than you and you should have faith on us. Like a religion.
>>392642
I can trust science if things based off of the science work. You act as if something posted in an academic journal must 100% be a lie. That's just silly. I act as if random blogs and social media are unreliable because they are. At least the academic sources have some prosses to filter out bullshit even if that process is not perfect. There is no bullshit filter on blogs or social media.
I can trust science if things based off of the science work. You act as if something posted in an academic journal must 100% be a lie. That's just silly. I act as if random blogs and social media are unreliable because they are. At least the academic sources have some prosses to filter out bullshit even if that process is not perfect. There is no bullshit filter on blogs or social media.
>>392642
And on top of that people are right to ask for evidence of huge claims like "a shot from almost 5 years ago is depopulating the planet" I have a big family and several coworkers who took it. Most of them are shitlibs so they got several boosters too. No one I know had problems and I still have to deal with traffic every day. I don't see bodies on the streets. So yeah the claim that a shot from years ago is causing the world to end is going to require better evidence then "some dickhead on social media/random blog said so"
And on top of that people are right to ask for evidence of huge claims like "a shot from almost 5 years ago is depopulating the planet" I have a big family and several coworkers who took it. Most of them are shitlibs so they got several boosters too. No one I know had problems and I still have to deal with traffic every day. I don't see bodies on the streets. So yeah the claim that a shot from years ago is causing the world to end is going to require better evidence then "some dickhead on social media/random blog said so"
>>392643
>At least the academic sources have some prosses to filter out bullshit
Sure, I don't argue that. However, academics are reliant on funding, that means that any meaningful deviation from mainstream science will be quickly squashed. Blogs are independent, take mainstream science and rip it apart. If that is deconstruction just for the sake of it, the blog will go into oblivion, otherwise, the new thesis will be reblogged and refined to reach the experimental phase.
>At least the academic sources have some prosses to filter out bullshit
Sure, I don't argue that. However, academics are reliant on funding, that means that any meaningful deviation from mainstream science will be quickly squashed. Blogs are independent, take mainstream science and rip it apart. If that is deconstruction just for the sake of it, the blog will go into oblivion, otherwise, the new thesis will be reblogged and refined to reach the experimental phase.
>>392644
>to ask for evidence of huge claims like "a shot from almost 5 years ago is depopulating the planet
The fact is the one of the main manufacturers and promoters was Bill Gates, who has generously talked about depopulation together with his billionaires pals.
>to ask for evidence of huge claims like "a shot from almost 5 years ago is depopulating the planet
The fact is the one of the main manufacturers and promoters was Bill Gates, who has generously talked about depopulation together with his billionaires pals.
>>392648
Again, judge a source by the evidence they present.
And also, blogs are not necessarily"independent" either. They rely on sensationalism and engagement farming to stay relevant, which means they'll say anything to keep your attention.
You only get to see whatever Zuckerberg and Musk's algorithms permit you to see. Notice how on Facebook you get to talk about 5G nanobots all you want, but if you deny the Holocaust you get banned immediately? It's because they permit you to talk about the former.
Again, judge a source by the evidence they present.
And also, blogs are not necessarily"independent" either. They rely on sensationalism and engagement farming to stay relevant, which means they'll say anything to keep your attention.
You only get to see whatever Zuckerberg and Musk's algorithms permit you to see. Notice how on Facebook you get to talk about 5G nanobots all you want, but if you deny the Holocaust you get banned immediately? It's because they permit you to talk about the former.
>>392633
>THE^tm establishment
>"the science is settled"
Spectaclebabble. You are forfiting your ability to participate in academics as a process over to twitter debate addicts and Heritage Foundation owned thinktanks that can't nor are interested in doing it right.
1. Make a website
2. write your paper on the subject you have interest
3. find peers to review it
4. revise it
5. repeat 3 and 4 until it doesn't suck
6. publish it to said website
There are several free means of getting a website such as neocities, and self hosting isn't that hard expensive but the availability of the former option makes that a non-barrier, so don't hide behind that.
Pandoc lets you convert markdown to html so you don't even need to know how to code HTML, nor is HTML hard, and knowing every semantic HTML tag will make you a better writer so learn it anyway.
>THE^tm establishment
>"the science is settled"
Spectaclebabble. You are forfiting your ability to participate in academics as a process over to twitter debate addicts and Heritage Foundation owned thinktanks that can't nor are interested in doing it right.
1. Make a website
2. write your paper on the subject you have interest
3. find peers to review it
4. revise it
5. repeat 3 and 4 until it doesn't suck
6. publish it to said website
There are several free means of getting a website such as neocities, and self hosting isn't that hard expensive but the availability of the former option makes that a non-barrier, so don't hide behind that.
Pandoc lets you convert markdown to html so you don't even need to know how to code HTML, nor is HTML hard, and knowing every semantic HTML tag will make you a better writer so learn it anyway.
>>392650
>They rely on sensationalism and engagement farming to stay relevant
As well with academics, as they rely on "outcomes" to get funded.
>They rely on sensationalism and engagement farming to stay relevant
As well with academics, as they rely on "outcomes" to get funded.
>>392645
>Blogs are independent, take mainstream science and rip it apart.
But they are randos who will say anything. What wins is not the scientific method on blogs, but what gets the most hits. And many of them are not independent. Look at the vigilant fox for example, who is paid to promote herbal "cancer treatments" or Alex Jones who makes most of his money from supplements.
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/exclusive-cancer-secrets-revealed
https://www.infowarsstore.com/
>Blogs are independent, take mainstream science and rip it apart.
But they are randos who will say anything. What wins is not the scientific method on blogs, but what gets the most hits. And many of them are not independent. Look at the vigilant fox for example, who is paid to promote herbal "cancer treatments" or Alex Jones who makes most of his money from supplements.
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/exclusive-cancer-secrets-revealed
https://www.infowarsstore.com/
>>392649
We can agree that Bill Gates is a twisted, evil fuck that wants to kill off humanity, but that doesn't mean he's successfully done it (yet). That simply isn't evidence.
If anything, the vaccine was probably more of a test trial to see if feat could motivate people to take experimental injections en mass.
We can agree that Bill Gates is a twisted, evil fuck that wants to kill off humanity, but that doesn't mean he's successfully done it (yet). That simply isn't evidence.
If anything, the vaccine was probably more of a test trial to see if feat could motivate people to take experimental injections en mass.
>>392649
>The fact is the one of the main manufacturers and promoters was Bill Gates
Bill Gates said that vaccines are good and the world has too many people so that means there is a secret plan to depopulate the planet with mRNA? That is retarded.
>The fact is the one of the main manufacturers and promoters was Bill Gates
Bill Gates said that vaccines are good and the world has too many people so that means there is a secret plan to depopulate the planet with mRNA? That is retarded.
>>392653
>but what gets the most hits
Is your goal profit or science? The two can rarely be reconciled. If the science matters to you then stop letting academia become centralized entity. The whole point of the internet was to decentralize this shit.
>but what gets the most hits
Is your goal profit or science? The two can rarely be reconciled. If the science matters to you then stop letting academia become centralized entity. The whole point of the internet was to decentralize this shit.
>>392654
>That simply isn't evidence.
Well, if my neighbor buys poison and talks about my neighborhood being too crowded, I would be worried. Sure, there is not evidence of him being a poisoner, but there is not evidence on the contrary either.
>That simply isn't evidence.
Well, if my neighbor buys poison and talks about my neighborhood being too crowded, I would be worried. Sure, there is not evidence of him being a poisoner, but there is not evidence on the contrary either.
>>392654
I hate Bill Gates because he monopolized his shit software and kikerosoft tries to force you to use it, but I don't think he is trying to end humanity. Just a shitstain who profits off of enshittification.
>If anything, the vaccine was probably more of a test trial to see if feat could motivate people to take experimental injections en mass.
Given all of the different tech that was tested all over the world this is more plausible. Still my personal belief is that governments simply overreacted to a lab leak and used the opportunity to test new technologies.
I hate Bill Gates because he monopolized his shit software and kikerosoft tries to force you to use it, but I don't think he is trying to end humanity. Just a shitstain who profits off of enshittification.
>If anything, the vaccine was probably more of a test trial to see if feat could motivate people to take experimental injections en mass.
Given all of the different tech that was tested all over the world this is more plausible. Still my personal belief is that governments simply overreacted to a lab leak and used the opportunity to test new technologies.
>>392652
You don't have to believe in academics if you don't want to, but at least post something more substantial than random social media screencaps.
>>392651
>You are forfiting your ability to participate in academics as a process
This is a very good point.
>>392657
First you would need to find evidence of the poison depopulating the world.
>>392656
>Is your goal profit or science? The two can rarely be reconciled.
Profit motivates science all the time. Corporations want research that produces actual results, not just propaganda. If anything, profit is what keeps academia in line.
You don't have to believe in academics if you don't want to, but at least post something more substantial than random social media screencaps.
>>392651
>You are forfiting your ability to participate in academics as a process
This is a very good point.
>>392657
First you would need to find evidence of the poison depopulating the world.
>>392656
>Is your goal profit or science? The two can rarely be reconciled.
Profit motivates science all the time. Corporations want research that produces actual results, not just propaganda. If anything, profit is what keeps academia in line.
>>392656
I do not like the centralization, I do have problems with journals and that probably deserves a thread. Academia having problems does not mean random blogs or social media are credible.
>>392659
>Bill Gates likes vaccines and said the world has too many people. That means he will kill us all with mRNA.
Yeah that sounds like something that somebody with an IQ of 70 would come up with.
I do not like the centralization, I do have problems with journals and that probably deserves a thread. Academia having problems does not mean random blogs or social media are credible.
>>392659
>Bill Gates likes vaccines and said the world has too many people. That means he will kill us all with mRNA.
Yeah that sounds like something that somebody with an IQ of 70 would come up with.
>>392662
By the people who want research that produces profitable products, technologies, data and methodology.
>>392664
>I do not like the centralization, I do have problems with journals and that probably deserves a thread. Academia having problems does not mean random blogs or social media are credible.
This.
By the people who want research that produces profitable products, technologies, data and methodology.
>>392664
>I do not like the centralization, I do have problems with journals and that probably deserves a thread. Academia having problems does not mean random blogs or social media are credible.
This.
>>392666
>By the people who want research that produces profitable products, technologies, data and methodology.
Exactly, let those people fill their pockets. And let people walking the opposite sidewalk continue their research.
>By the people who want research that produces profitable products, technologies, data and methodology.
Exactly, let those people fill their pockets. And let people walking the opposite sidewalk continue their research.
>>392660
Science can be fueled by money, autism, or both. Often both, but when there's no money for somthing you know is important then the latter should be plenty. A lot of early internet academics was volenteer stuff, and that never stopped, it's just not search engine optimal. Search engines will die soon with the whole AI thing, so in the new age of manual indexing that will be as much a non-issue as the prior age of manual indexing.
>>392664
A peer reviewed paper is a peer reviewed paper. Don't let authority overtake the scientific process itself.
Science can be fueled by money, autism, or both. Often both, but when there's no money for somthing you know is important then the latter should be plenty. A lot of early internet academics was volenteer stuff, and that never stopped, it's just not search engine optimal. Search engines will die soon with the whole AI thing, so in the new age of manual indexing that will be as much a non-issue as the prior age of manual indexing.
>>392664
A peer reviewed paper is a peer reviewed paper. Don't let authority overtake the scientific process itself.
>>392668
I notice you aren't posting any research. You are posting screenshots on social media and the opinions of literally whos.
I notice you aren't posting any research. You are posting screenshots on social media and the opinions of literally whos.
>>392670
I actually think there should be some degree of oversight. Look at India which has the exact opposite of the western problem where journals are expensive to access and publish in. Indian scientists just publish bullshit in predatory journals and nothing can trusted. What science really needs is an institution dedicated to replication studies, but how to make that institution I am not sure.
I actually think there should be some degree of oversight. Look at India which has the exact opposite of the western problem where journals are expensive to access and publish in. Indian scientists just publish bullshit in predatory journals and nothing can trusted. What science really needs is an institution dedicated to replication studies, but how to make that institution I am not sure.
>>392673
>Indian scientists just publish bullshit in predatory journals and nothing can trusted.
You have a very valid point on shitskins. But Whites doing scrutiny are not in the same boat.
>Indian scientists just publish bullshit in predatory journals and nothing can trusted.
You have a very valid point on shitskins. But Whites doing scrutiny are not in the same boat.
>>392673
Something like wikipedia would do it. Perhaps not wikipedia itself, it's dealing with scope creep and might be better done with a federated model. That said, wikis are generally good for this sort of oversight when they have rules as thourough as wikipedia's.
Something like wikipedia would do it. Perhaps not wikipedia itself, it's dealing with scope creep and might be better done with a federated model. That said, wikis are generally good for this sort of oversight when they have rules as thourough as wikipedia's.
>>392672
Oh it seems I am. Looks like you posted a study done in rats and tried to pass that off as solid proof of depopulation >>391377 see I notice this is a pattern among antivaxxers. Like you will post a rat study, or an unreplicated cancer cell culture study, or study with 13 people where the control group is N=3 and then in the next breath you will bitch about the replication crisis without realizing the irony.
Oh it seems I am. Looks like you posted a study done in rats and tried to pass that off as solid proof of depopulation >>391377 see I notice this is a pattern among antivaxxers. Like you will post a rat study, or an unreplicated cancer cell culture study, or study with 13 people where the control group is N=3 and then in the next breath you will bitch about the replication crisis without realizing the irony.
>>392675
The instution would need funding and how do you make funding replication studies profitable?
The instution would need funding and how do you make funding replication studies profitable?
>>392679
On top of this it would need to heavily incentivize scientists. No one ever became famous for being the second person to discover something.
On top of this it would need to heavily incentivize scientists. No one ever became famous for being the second person to discover something.
>>392681
I'm whatever word you want to use for people who think the depopulation narrative is retarded.
I'm whatever word you want to use for people who think the depopulation narrative is retarded.
>>392682
>depopulation narrative
Spelled it out by Bill Gates himself and billionaires pals, I remind you.
>depopulation narrative
Spelled it out by Bill Gates himself and billionaires pals, I remind you.
>>392681
And you seem to be deliberately avoiding the point. The study you posted was a rat study and over 90% of those studies are not translatable to humans and can be difficult to replicate (although not as difficult as something like cancer cell culture studies)
And you seem to be deliberately avoiding the point. The study you posted was a rat study and over 90% of those studies are not translatable to humans and can be difficult to replicate (although not as difficult as something like cancer cell culture studies)
This thread passed the bump limit.
>>392683
No you made a jump that bill gates is part of some greater conspiracy because he likes vaccines and is worried about overpopulation. You offered no solid evidence that this conspiracy exists.
No you made a jump that bill gates is part of some greater conspiracy because he likes vaccines and is worried about overpopulation. You offered no solid evidence that this conspiracy exists.
>>392685
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11175415/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36883244/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2746847/
The failure for animal studies to translate to humans has been known about for a long time.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11175415/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36883244/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2746847/
The failure for animal studies to translate to humans has been known about for a long time.
>>392688
No it's a jump. The dude worried about over population and most elites started worrying about depopulation a while back and the dude likes vaccines. That doesn't point to a global conspiracy to depopulate the planet with mRNA.
No it's a jump. The dude worried about over population and most elites started worrying about depopulation a while back and the dude likes vaccines. That doesn't point to a global conspiracy to depopulate the planet with mRNA.
>>392690
Look I linked a biology textbook in this thread. It is a good entry level book. Has lots of great information and it was written before covid. Give it a read. You might actually find it interesting and it would at least help you determine if the papers you read are good or not.
Look I linked a biology textbook in this thread. It is a good entry level book. Has lots of great information and it was written before covid. Give it a read. You might actually find it interesting and it would at least help you determine if the papers you read are good or not.
>>392692
Fair enough. However I'm well above a biology book. Let me explain to you a mammal body in lay terms, It is basically a boiler, fuel goes in and exhaust residue goes out and you have a useful product transformed into physical movement and brain activity.
Fair enough. However I'm well above a biology book. Let me explain to you a mammal body in lay terms, It is basically a boiler, fuel goes in and exhaust residue goes out and you have a useful product transformed into physical movement and brain activity.
>>392693
I honestly don't think you are above an entry level book. You didn't know that animal studies are poorly translated to humans. That is pretty basic knowledge in the field. Give it a read there is lots to learn.
I honestly don't think you are above an entry level book. You didn't know that animal studies are poorly translated to humans. That is pretty basic knowledge in the field. Give it a read there is lots to learn.
>>392695
And how might 80 million years worth of evolution might have lead to differences between humans and mice?
And how might 80 million years worth of evolution might have lead to differences between humans and mice?
>>392696
>80 million years worth of evolution
Well, we have veeeeeeeeery divergent views here.
First of all, carbon dating is so unreliable that it is almost a fraud.
Second, Evolution is just a theory and can't be used as proof.
>80 million years worth of evolution
Well, we have veeeeeeeeery divergent views here.
First of all, carbon dating is so unreliable that it is almost a fraud.
Second, Evolution is just a theory and can't be used as proof.
>>392697
>carbon dating is unreliable
Carbon dating is not the only dating used. Potassium argon dating for example is much more accurate for older samples.
>just a theory.
That word doesn't mean what you think it means. It means there is a lot of research backing it up. Electromagnetism, gravity, and cell theory are all "just theories" I somehow doubt you have a problem with any of those. There is lots of evidence for evolution even aside from the fossil record. Look at chromosome 2 for example or the many similarities that mitochondria and chloroplasts have with bacteria.
>carbon dating is unreliable
Carbon dating is not the only dating used. Potassium argon dating for example is much more accurate for older samples.
>just a theory.
That word doesn't mean what you think it means. It means there is a lot of research backing it up. Electromagnetism, gravity, and cell theory are all "just theories" I somehow doubt you have a problem with any of those. There is lots of evidence for evolution even aside from the fossil record. Look at chromosome 2 for example or the many similarities that mitochondria and chloroplasts have with bacteria.
>>392697
But I think I finally understand why you get so upset when others deny your satanic conspiracy, because the satanic conspiracy is supposed to tie in with the rapture. You dislike science because most scientists agree with evolution and trying to learn why the believe that may force you to evaluate your beliefs. The evidence for evolution is pretty strong and evolution would destroy the orgin story of the bible and invalidate the whole thing. The covid vax depopulation shit came later. Evolution is what your distaste for science is about. When you call people who disagree with your religion shills you are not doing so because you believe they are government agents you do so because you believe the views they express will damn others to hell and the very expression of those beliefs is harmful. Stop using the word shill when the word you are looking for is heretic.
But I think I finally understand why you get so upset when others deny your satanic conspiracy, because the satanic conspiracy is supposed to tie in with the rapture. You dislike science because most scientists agree with evolution and trying to learn why the believe that may force you to evaluate your beliefs. The evidence for evolution is pretty strong and evolution would destroy the orgin story of the bible and invalidate the whole thing. The covid vax depopulation shit came later. Evolution is what your distaste for science is about. When you call people who disagree with your religion shills you are not doing so because you believe they are government agents you do so because you believe the views they express will damn others to hell and the very expression of those beliefs is harmful. Stop using the word shill when the word you are looking for is heretic.
>>392698
>gravity
No serious scientist knows what the fuck it is, tbh.
>There is lots of evidence for evolution
Make a search here for "Don Patton". This guy is an archeologist, scholar, and knows a lot about rocks and paleontology. There are videos of him debating evolutionist professors (aka shysters) and publicly shame them for being utter charlatans.
>gravity
No serious scientist knows what the fuck it is, tbh.
>There is lots of evidence for evolution
Make a search here for "Don Patton". This guy is an archeologist, scholar, and knows a lot about rocks and paleontology. There are videos of him debating evolutionist professors (aka shysters) and publicly shame them for being utter charlatans.
>>392679
>The instution would need funding
Federation can minimize that cost considerably
>how do you make funding replication studies profitable?
Maintained and profitable are two different things
>The instution would need funding
Federation can minimize that cost considerably
>how do you make funding replication studies profitable?
Maintained and profitable are two different things
>>392700
>because the satanic conspiracy is supposed to tie in with the rapture.
WTF
I'm an ancient Pagan, fren.
>because the satanic conspiracy is supposed to tie in with the rapture.
WTF
I'm an ancient Pagan, fren.
>>392701
Fair point on gravity, but it isn't really disputed that the phenomenon exists.
An archeologist might not be the best person to ask about genetics and I looked him up and didn't find anything about chromosome 2 or the similarities between mitochondria and chloroplasts and bacteria.
Fair point on gravity, but it isn't really disputed that the phenomenon exists.
An archeologist might not be the best person to ask about genetics and I looked him up and didn't find anything about chromosome 2 or the similarities between mitochondria and chloroplasts and bacteria.
>>392698
>>392700
See >>>/vx/158082 → →
Don Patton is a hardcore christian, however from a scientist point of view (not religion is needed), he destroys the Evolution nonsense.
>>392700
See >>>/vx/158082 → →
Don Patton is a hardcore christian, however from a scientist point of view (not religion is needed), he destroys the Evolution nonsense.
>>392702
I'll make a thread on peer review and journals tomorrow. It's more than just funding that would need to change. The "publish or perish" attitude would need to change too.
>>392704
I didn't think there were people who seriously believed paganism stuff. The pagans I met were secular and believed the gods and stories were metaphors for human behavior. Also why link me to a christian creation scientist?
I'll make a thread on peer review and journals tomorrow. It's more than just funding that would need to change. The "publish or perish" attitude would need to change too.
>>392704
I didn't think there were people who seriously believed paganism stuff. The pagans I met were secular and believed the gods and stories were metaphors for human behavior. Also why link me to a christian creation scientist?
>>392708
>Also why link me to a christian creation scientist?
Because the uses science and only science to debunk Evolution. No religion needed.
>Also why link me to a christian creation scientist?
Because the uses science and only science to debunk Evolution. No religion needed.
>>392708
>The pagans I met were secular and believed the gods and stories were metaphors for human behavior.
I'm secular, however I know about the other side, call it the occult if you wish.
>The pagans I met were secular and believed the gods and stories were metaphors for human behavior.
I'm secular, however I know about the other side, call it the occult if you wish.
>>392710
So some red flags about this guy jump out at me. 1 his PhD is in education not geology or archeology, two he is affiliated with the creation evidence museum in Glen rose TX and their research is so bad that even other creationists call their work garbage.
So some red flags about this guy jump out at me. 1 his PhD is in education not geology or archeology, two he is affiliated with the creation evidence museum in Glen rose TX and their research is so bad that even other creationists call their work garbage.
>>392714
Dude, just watch the public debates with evolutionist "scholar" professors, and get some popcorn.
Dude, just watch the public debates with evolutionist "scholar" professors, and get some popcorn.
>>392716
I don't want to watch hours worth of this dude's lectures or cherry picked video clips. Give me evidence that other forms of dating like potassium argon dating or thorium uranium dating are inaccurate or how the telomere sequence in chromosome 2 got there without a fusion or explain the circular chromosomes and 70s ribosomes in chloroplasts and mitochondria without endosymbiont.
I don't want to watch hours worth of this dude's lectures or cherry picked video clips. Give me evidence that other forms of dating like potassium argon dating or thorium uranium dating are inaccurate or how the telomere sequence in chromosome 2 got there without a fusion or explain the circular chromosomes and 70s ribosomes in chloroplasts and mitochondria without endosymbiont.
>>392705
Gravity isnt a force my guy. The heliocentric religion says so. Cant believe ponybros are so hostile to flat earthers when we just correct you on your religion lol.
Gravity isnt a force my guy. The heliocentric religion says so. Cant believe ponybros are so hostile to flat earthers when we just correct you on your religion lol.
>>392634
"Peer review" isn't even science it's just an authoritative marker. It actually hinders scientific progress. Science is about verifiable cause and effect, replication, and predictive validity. If it isn't that it isn't science. If we understand what science is then we understand what science isn't
Yes virology is a satanic scam and the bible is true. That is the metaphysical take I have on it. Doesn't change it also being unverfiable pseudoscience. No human has ever died from a virus or germ. All inventions of vaccines were made to cause illness and death. Stuff like the black plauge, polio, and chicken/small pox are all immunity responses, they are not contagious. Why do people in close proximity seem to get the same illnesses? They are consuming the same toxins that's why. No need to beat a conspiracy theory dead horse though, you could've just watched a conspiracy video instead of relying on muh scienceTM paper abstracts. Seriously, a random conspiracy documentary will likely hold more truth than academia scams. Funny how you accuse people like us of being Facebook boomer memers when most of Facebook and social media is just like you. Very interesting
"Peer review" isn't even science it's just an authoritative marker. It actually hinders scientific progress. Science is about verifiable cause and effect, replication, and predictive validity. If it isn't that it isn't science. If we understand what science is then we understand what science isn't
Yes virology is a satanic scam and the bible is true. That is the metaphysical take I have on it. Doesn't change it also being unverfiable pseudoscience. No human has ever died from a virus or germ. All inventions of vaccines were made to cause illness and death. Stuff like the black plauge, polio, and chicken/small pox are all immunity responses, they are not contagious. Why do people in close proximity seem to get the same illnesses? They are consuming the same toxins that's why. No need to beat a conspiracy theory dead horse though, you could've just watched a conspiracy video instead of relying on muh scienceTM paper abstracts. Seriously, a random conspiracy documentary will likely hold more truth than academia scams. Funny how you accuse people like us of being Facebook boomer memers when most of Facebook and social media is just like you. Very interesting
>>392732
Most of the government is just a job and task. Most of the government arent "in on the lies" they just believe the lies without understanding. Boiling it down to being "the government" would be dishonest, because there are higher ups in the government called secret societies
Most of the government is just a job and task. Most of the government arent "in on the lies" they just believe the lies without understanding. Boiling it down to being "the government" would be dishonest, because there are higher ups in the government called secret societies
Don't stop, I'm enthralled, but holy shit is this some schizophrenia.
>>392741
I don't think there are any secret societies that powerful. I don't think the world is controlled by a united secret group at all. I think the world is simply controlled by a few factions of rich assholes fighting for control and fucking everyone else in the process.
I don't think there are any secret societies that powerful. I don't think the world is controlled by a united secret group at all. I think the world is simply controlled by a few factions of rich assholes fighting for control and fucking everyone else in the process.
>>392744
>they're not secret societies they're just rich factions
Yeah, which operate in exclusion and secrecy. You cant be this retarded to make this distinction about them being a "faction" I don't buy it. It's the same thing
>they're not secret societies they're just rich factions
Yeah, which operate in exclusion and secrecy. You cant be this retarded to make this distinction about them being a "faction" I don't buy it. It's the same thing
>>392745
Several competing factions with different interests and I don't think those factions are necessarily secret societies. The coal giants have very different interests from the green tech giants. I certainly don't believe that either of those factions control all the media, politics, history books, and scientific journals. They can certainly purchase influence, but neither control the world.
Several competing factions with different interests and I don't think those factions are necessarily secret societies. The coal giants have very different interests from the green tech giants. I certainly don't believe that either of those factions control all the media, politics, history books, and scientific journals. They can certainly purchase influence, but neither control the world.
>>392746
No one said anything about them "controlling the world". Environmentalism is a scam and the people at the top pushing it know it is.
Someone's gotta run the coal industry, and nothing wrong with that. Not every industry has to be controlled by one secret society group that's a ridiculous strawman. Secret societies just need to operate in influence, they'll do that with whatever sector works best for them
No one said anything about them "controlling the world". Environmentalism is a scam and the people at the top pushing it know it is.
Someone's gotta run the coal industry, and nothing wrong with that. Not every industry has to be controlled by one secret society group that's a ridiculous strawman. Secret societies just need to operate in influence, they'll do that with whatever sector works best for them
>>392747
Help me understand your position then. How does this secret society (societies?) operate? How powerful are they? Why do they do what they do? How many are there? What evidence do you have of their existence?
Help me understand your position then. How does this secret society (societies?) operate? How powerful are they? Why do they do what they do? How many are there? What evidence do you have of their existence?
>>392747
And you say this society doesn't control the world but a secret society able to convince the world of the shape of the earth, evolution, germ theory, all of our history, ect has to be pretty powerful. To me that sounds like nearly Descartes' demon levels of power.
And you say this society doesn't control the world but a secret society able to convince the world of the shape of the earth, evolution, germ theory, all of our history, ect has to be pretty powerful. To me that sounds like nearly Descartes' demon levels of power.
>>392749
These are all begging the questions. There's clear evidence of billionaires doing secret handshakes, having parties on their yachts and in their mansions and hotels. They fly private jets to have political meetings. You really think they're doing all this just to have a toast? Clearly they are planning events and ways to serve their own interests. Use your brain
>>392750
"Controlling the world" is literally a blanket statement. Define what you mean by control the world first. It's also begging the question and appealing to popularity by saying "how do they trick most of the worlds population?"
Most people are lost and not taught how to think. Same shit as asking why so many believe the holocaust happened and 911 was done by muslims
These are all begging the questions. There's clear evidence of billionaires doing secret handshakes, having parties on their yachts and in their mansions and hotels. They fly private jets to have political meetings. You really think they're doing all this just to have a toast? Clearly they are planning events and ways to serve their own interests. Use your brain
>>392750
"Controlling the world" is literally a blanket statement. Define what you mean by control the world first. It's also begging the question and appealing to popularity by saying "how do they trick most of the worlds population?"
Most people are lost and not taught how to think. Same shit as asking why so many believe the holocaust happened and 911 was done by muslims
>>392752
Those questions were asked to try to understand your position. They are not gotchas in any way.
>Clearly they are planning events and ways to serve their own interests
Simple money laundering and corruption could easily explain this.
By control the world I mean how do they direct politics, geopolitics, control all major information, and direct major events? How does all that work?
Those questions were asked to try to understand your position. They are not gotchas in any way.
>Clearly they are planning events and ways to serve their own interests
Simple money laundering and corruption could easily explain this.
By control the world I mean how do they direct politics, geopolitics, control all major information, and direct major events? How does all that work?
>>392753
Define what you mean by major information and major events. Who ever said they are controlling them all? Seems like you're building more strawmans in your head
You're on a very niche pony image board and you want me to spoonfeed on how billionaires have and use their leverage in politics, lol. Convince me you aren't an absolute shill here to waste time
Define what you mean by major information and major events. Who ever said they are controlling them all? Seems like you're building more strawmans in your head
You're on a very niche pony image board and you want me to spoonfeed on how billionaires have and use their leverage in politics, lol. Convince me you aren't an absolute shill here to waste time
>>392752
>There's clear evidence of billionaires doing secret handshakes
And secret handshakes do not imply nefarious activity. I almost joined a fraternity in uni and they had secret handshakes. Pretty sure those guys were getting drunk and sharing test banks not taking over the world.
>There's clear evidence of billionaires doing secret handshakes
And secret handshakes do not imply nefarious activity. I almost joined a fraternity in uni and they had secret handshakes. Pretty sure those guys were getting drunk and sharing test banks not taking over the world.
>>392754
How do they control enough of the information infrastructure to where they can fool the overwhelming majority of the population about things as basic as the shape of the earth or the very fundamentals of medicine? How does that work? What part of this question is unclear to you?
How do they control enough of the information infrastructure to where they can fool the overwhelming majority of the population about things as basic as the shape of the earth or the very fundamentals of medicine? How does that work? What part of this question is unclear to you?
>>392756
Again, same shit as asking why so many people believe the Holocaust happened and that 911 was done by Muslims extremists
How do you even begin determine earth's "shape"? Flat earthers make a claim about the earth being flat. Flat is not a shape it's a discription of a surface. Where did you get "shape" from?
As far as medicine goes, people have dropped dead due to vaccines. That puts medicine at question, and it doesn't matter how many fools continue to buy that vaccines are a safe and effective medicine
Again, same shit as asking why so many people believe the Holocaust happened and that 911 was done by Muslims extremists
How do you even begin determine earth's "shape"? Flat earthers make a claim about the earth being flat. Flat is not a shape it's a discription of a surface. Where did you get "shape" from?
As far as medicine goes, people have dropped dead due to vaccines. That puts medicine at question, and it doesn't matter how many fools continue to buy that vaccines are a safe and effective medicine
>>392757
Honestly I can see how they could spin typhus and starvation into gas and ovens especially since the former would call into question the legitimacy of the post war wolrd order. As for 9/11 the planes were flown by Muslims but financed by Saudis and Jews. Convincing people that it was Muslims is simply a half truth. Germ theory on the other hand has a whole bunch of medicines that work based on those principles and a bunch of people researching and manufacturing those methods that seems a lot harder to fake simply because of the amount of people involved. The holocaust only needs a few media companies and Intel agencies to be involved same with 9/11. The germ theory denial and flat earth shit requires average jackoffs to be a part of the conspiracy.
Honestly I can see how they could spin typhus and starvation into gas and ovens especially since the former would call into question the legitimacy of the post war wolrd order. As for 9/11 the planes were flown by Muslims but financed by Saudis and Jews. Convincing people that it was Muslims is simply a half truth. Germ theory on the other hand has a whole bunch of medicines that work based on those principles and a bunch of people researching and manufacturing those methods that seems a lot harder to fake simply because of the amount of people involved. The holocaust only needs a few media companies and Intel agencies to be involved same with 9/11. The germ theory denial and flat earth shit requires average jackoffs to be a part of the conspiracy.
>>392758
Sorry but a 3rd grader can do the math and figure out you can't bake 6 million cookies in 4 years. You need to do about 3000-4000 cookies per day which requires too many overns. There's no genius trickery going on here, people are just fucking retards and buy stories.
There were no planes on 911 my guy. So no Muslims flew any planes into buildings. Israelis coordinated camera footage from different angles because they knew what was coming. Then they inserted CGI planes into their footages and gave them to the media.
Can you name one single useful medicine that does any good? Unless it's a specific thing that is used to prevent an infection, they seem to be all reliefs, not cures. Average healthy humans simply don't need medicine at any time in their life unless they need to stop an infection or something. Eating and drinking healthy is simply enough and every sane person wants to avoid seeing doctors and nurses
Again, "average jackoffs" don't need to be part of any conspiracy, they just need to take orders and believe in the lie. There's nothing that's suggests that millions would have to "be in on it"
Sorry but a 3rd grader can do the math and figure out you can't bake 6 million cookies in 4 years. You need to do about 3000-4000 cookies per day which requires too many overns. There's no genius trickery going on here, people are just fucking retards and buy stories.
There were no planes on 911 my guy. So no Muslims flew any planes into buildings. Israelis coordinated camera footage from different angles because they knew what was coming. Then they inserted CGI planes into their footages and gave them to the media.
Can you name one single useful medicine that does any good? Unless it's a specific thing that is used to prevent an infection, they seem to be all reliefs, not cures. Average healthy humans simply don't need medicine at any time in their life unless they need to stop an infection or something. Eating and drinking healthy is simply enough and every sane person wants to avoid seeing doctors and nurses
Again, "average jackoffs" don't need to be part of any conspiracy, they just need to take orders and believe in the lie. There's nothing that's suggests that millions would have to "be in on it"
>>392760
You're giving him an awful lot of credit, assuming he's both capable and willing to engage in 3rd-grade math
You're giving him an awful lot of credit, assuming he's both capable and willing to engage in 3rd-grade math
>>392760
>Then they inserted CGI planes into their footages and gave them to the media.
So all the people who saw it in new york are just lying?
>Can you name one single useful medicine that does any good?
Antibiotics
Antiretrovirals
Monoclonal antibodies
Oh and lithium. If you aren't familiar with that one you should probably make yourself familiar with that one.
>Again, "average jackoffs" don't need to be part of any conspiracy, they just need to take orders and believe in the lie. There's nothing that's suggests that millions would have to "be in on it"
Yeah actually they would be. Snipers and artillery units need to calculate for the curvature of the earth in their shots. Engineers building radio towers need to account for line of sight. Pilots and ship captains need to use the round earth model for navigation, ect.
And then let's look at medicine. I used to work in pharmaceuticals specifically on antibodies. We had clean rooms and all kinds of tests for contaminates especially bacteria and virus because those could destroy the cell cultures. You're telling me all the people doing those tests were in on it? It wasn't as simple as "red means bad" they had to test for biochemical signatures of the contaminates so they contaminates could be contained. Those people who have to be in on it as would the people who designed the equipment to test for it and, the people who designed the facility the people prescribing the medication, ect
>>392761
Join him on the flat earth side ninjaz, you are already so close.
>Then they inserted CGI planes into their footages and gave them to the media.
So all the people who saw it in new york are just lying?
>Can you name one single useful medicine that does any good?
Antibiotics
Antiretrovirals
Monoclonal antibodies
Oh and lithium. If you aren't familiar with that one you should probably make yourself familiar with that one.
>Again, "average jackoffs" don't need to be part of any conspiracy, they just need to take orders and believe in the lie. There's nothing that's suggests that millions would have to "be in on it"
Yeah actually they would be. Snipers and artillery units need to calculate for the curvature of the earth in their shots. Engineers building radio towers need to account for line of sight. Pilots and ship captains need to use the round earth model for navigation, ect.
And then let's look at medicine. I used to work in pharmaceuticals specifically on antibodies. We had clean rooms and all kinds of tests for contaminates especially bacteria and virus because those could destroy the cell cultures. You're telling me all the people doing those tests were in on it? It wasn't as simple as "red means bad" they had to test for biochemical signatures of the contaminates so they contaminates could be contained. Those people who have to be in on it as would the people who designed the equipment to test for it and, the people who designed the facility the people prescribing the medication, ect
>>392761
Join him on the flat earth side ninjaz, you are already so close.
>>392760
>Sorry but a 3rd grader can do the math and figure out you can't bake 6 million cookies in 4 years. You need to do about 3000-4000 cookies per day which requires too many overns.
This assumes every body was burned and they didn't toss the kikes in mass graves.
>Sorry but a 3rd grader can do the math and figure out you can't bake 6 million cookies in 4 years. You need to do about 3000-4000 cookies per day which requires too many overns.
This assumes every body was burned and they didn't toss the kikes in mass graves.
>>392762
>antibiotics
Used primarily for infection
>Antiretrovirals
Don't have gay sex or multiple sex partners and you won't catch aids/HIV
>antibodies
Proteins used to stop infections
>lithium
Other forms of mood stabilizers exist, such as food
It's like you didn't read what I typed out. *other than treating infections*. They aren't going after Germs and viruses which can't even hurt a fly
>antibiotics
Used primarily for infection
>Antiretrovirals
Don't have gay sex or multiple sex partners and you won't catch aids/HIV
>antibodies
Proteins used to stop infections
>lithium
Other forms of mood stabilizers exist, such as food
It's like you didn't read what I typed out. *other than treating infections*. They aren't going after Germs and viruses which can't even hurt a fly
>>392765
The infections are caused by germs that is why they use antibiotics and antiretrovirals. You can use antiretrovirals for viruses other than AIDS. Also monoclonal antibodies are used for a lot more than infections. Cancer for example. And gene therapy can permanently cure sickle cell and other conditions. I have a feeling you aren't a fan of that though.
The infections are caused by germs that is why they use antibiotics and antiretrovirals. You can use antiretrovirals for viruses other than AIDS. Also monoclonal antibodies are used for a lot more than infections. Cancer for example. And gene therapy can permanently cure sickle cell and other conditions. I have a feeling you aren't a fan of that though.
>>392762
I suppose I should respond to the rest of your post
You can find interviews of the top kill count snipers in America. They give details on how windspeed and air conditions affects the bullet, they never bring up bullshit about coriolis or curve of the earth. The though never even crosses their mind when their finger is on the trigger
What about line of sight for construction of radio towers shows earth curve? Lines of sight are straight and flat. They build towers just fine so long as the signals can reach far enough. Never has earth curve been a problem for this
Pilots use what is called a azimuthal equidistant projection on a radar. That's a flat earth map. Not that I claim that map, because there are problems with it. Many flat earthers also dont claim that map. Regardless of the problems pilots use it just fine.
Everyone uses flat maps for navigation, without exception. Before electronic technology became advanced, celestial navigation was used. It uses a flat earth.
To respond to your first point, who is exactly "all the people" and how do you know they all said they saw planes? You interviewed every single person in New York that was there that day? No you didnt
I suppose I should respond to the rest of your post
You can find interviews of the top kill count snipers in America. They give details on how windspeed and air conditions affects the bullet, they never bring up bullshit about coriolis or curve of the earth. The though never even crosses their mind when their finger is on the trigger
What about line of sight for construction of radio towers shows earth curve? Lines of sight are straight and flat. They build towers just fine so long as the signals can reach far enough. Never has earth curve been a problem for this
Pilots use what is called a azimuthal equidistant projection on a radar. That's a flat earth map. Not that I claim that map, because there are problems with it. Many flat earthers also dont claim that map. Regardless of the problems pilots use it just fine.
Everyone uses flat maps for navigation, without exception. Before electronic technology became advanced, celestial navigation was used. It uses a flat earth.
To respond to your first point, who is exactly "all the people" and how do you know they all said they saw planes? You interviewed every single person in New York that was there that day? No you didnt
>>392766
Infections are caused by pathogens or toxins. You can't produce a sneeze or cough that's powerful enough to make someone sick.
Infections are caused by pathogens or toxins. You can't produce a sneeze or cough that's powerful enough to make someone sick.
I should also note that all literature that's along the lines of "Pilots guide to the globe earth" are all simulations, not the actual radar that pilots are using. Anyway this should be taken to the flat earth thread on /vx/ because it's getting a little too much for this thread
>>392768
Nigger I met some dude who was in school at the time. Pretty sure he didn't have a reason to lie. Go talk to someone who was in view of the towers in 2001. There are many of them.
The Coriolis effect and Eötvös effect are just lies they teach new snipers to make them less effective in combat then all in effort to keep the round earth scam going?
>>392769
Tuberculosis would like a word.
Nigger I met some dude who was in school at the time. Pretty sure he didn't have a reason to lie. Go talk to someone who was in view of the towers in 2001. There are many of them.
The Coriolis effect and Eötvös effect are just lies they teach new snipers to make them less effective in combat then all in effort to keep the round earth scam going?
>>392769
Tuberculosis would like a word.
>>392772
You cannot be inside a school and simotaneously see planes hit the towers. What a bullshit story from him. What, he looked out the window at just the right time? And that window was facing the tower too? Sounds like too much detail for it to be true, due to occams razor it's bullshit
You cannot be inside a school and simotaneously see planes hit the towers. What a bullshit story from him. What, he looked out the window at just the right time? And that window was facing the tower too? Sounds like too much detail for it to be true, due to occams razor it's bullshit
>>392762
>embrace flat-earth
I almost want to, in the same sense that "Starlight Glimmer is best pone" is delightfully sacregligious, but in spite of the lulz I can't honestly pretend that there's evidence the earth is flat. I have attempted to suggest that the earth is MAYBE less round than one might think?, but that's silly, because only the idea that the earth is flat (with whatever geological layering, which no - don't ask - doesn't matter.
>embrace flat-earth
I almost want to, in the same sense that "Starlight Glimmer is best pone" is delightfully sacregligious, but in spite of the lulz I can't honestly pretend that there's evidence the earth is flat. I have attempted to suggest that the earth is MAYBE less round than one might think?, but that's silly, because only the idea that the earth is flat (with whatever geological layering, which no - don't ask - doesn't matter.
>>392776
You mean try applying it to muslim extremists who hijacked a plane and their passport survived in the flames?
I'm going with CGI, it's a less detailed and more logical explanation
Bacteria can be found everywhere on earth. Lots can be done to prevent build up of bad bacteria in the body. No evidence to suggest that it's contagious and spreads from person to person. Someone else's immunity response isn't going to affect you in any way, they can't transmit it
You mean try applying it to muslim extremists who hijacked a plane and their passport survived in the flames?
I'm going with CGI, it's a less detailed and more logical explanation
Bacteria can be found everywhere on earth. Lots can be done to prevent build up of bad bacteria in the body. No evidence to suggest that it's contagious and spreads from person to person. Someone else's immunity response isn't going to affect you in any way, they can't transmit it
>>392777
You are already at the dinosaurs and men lived side by side level and are flirting with germ theory denial. Evidence stopped mastering to you a long time ago. Embrace flat earth and become the most specialist of Boyz.
>>392779
>You mean try applying it to muslim extremists who hijacked a plane and their passport survived in the flames?
Or the planes were real and the passports were not...
>No evidence to suggest that it's contagious and spreads from person to person. Someone else's immunity response isn't going to affect you in any way, they can't transmit it
So hospitals just quarantine TB patients for the lulz then?
You are already at the dinosaurs and men lived side by side level and are flirting with germ theory denial. Evidence stopped mastering to you a long time ago. Embrace flat earth and become the most specialist of Boyz.
>>392779
>You mean try applying it to muslim extremists who hijacked a plane and their passport survived in the flames?
Or the planes were real and the passports were not...
>No evidence to suggest that it's contagious and spreads from person to person. Someone else's immunity response isn't going to affect you in any way, they can't transmit it
So hospitals just quarantine TB patients for the lulz then?
>>392780
The planes being real still suggest there were expert Muslim pilots who hijacked a plane and suicided in the name of their religion. It's a retarded story even when you rule out the passport
TB is an infection, thanks for pointing that out again
The planes being real still suggest there were expert Muslim pilots who hijacked a plane and suicided in the name of their religion. It's a retarded story even when you rule out the passport
TB is an infection, thanks for pointing that out again
>>392782
The only thing that planes being hijacked implies is that muslims can fly into a building. Hardly experts and Why would TB patients be quarantined if there was no risk of infection?
The only thing that planes being hijacked implies is that muslims can fly into a building. Hardly experts and Why would TB patients be quarantined if there was no risk of infection?
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>>392783
Asking me why they would quarantine TB patients is begging the question
Also, pic rel we know you're trolling at this point
Asking me why they would quarantine TB patients is begging the question
Also, pic rel we know you're trolling at this point
>>392785
I can believe a kebab can be trained to be a pilot well enough to fly into a building. That doesn't take a lot of belief. If niggers can fly so can kebabs.
I'm asking you why TB patients are quarantined because you seem to believe hospitals are just doing it for funzies. You can't answer the question because you know that it would mean regular jack offs are in on it or that you are full of crap.
I can believe a kebab can be trained to be a pilot well enough to fly into a building. That doesn't take a lot of belief. If niggers can fly so can kebabs.
I'm asking you why TB patients are quarantined because you seem to believe hospitals are just doing it for funzies. You can't answer the question because you know that it would mean regular jack offs are in on it or that you are full of crap.
>>392786
You believe that a kebab has the audacity to train to become a pilot just so he can suicide himself for his religion. That quite the extraordinary belief
Again, begging the question is begging the question
You believe that a kebab has the audacity to train to become a pilot just so he can suicide himself for his religion. That quite the extraordinary belief
Again, begging the question is begging the question
>>392795
Kebabs blow themselves up and drive cars into people all the time. It really isn't a stretch.
Kebabs blow themselves up and drive cars into people all the time. It really isn't a stretch.
>>392786
>>392807
Ostensibly, the planes were already well in the air and at cruising altitude when the hijacking occurred. It's alot easier to glide a plane toward a target - especially one you don't intend to survive the encounter with - than it is to take off. Yes, actual piloting involves all manner of skills and training, but "aim for the buildings" doesn't have as high of a learning curve
>>392807
Ostensibly, the planes were already well in the air and at cruising altitude when the hijacking occurred. It's alot easier to glide a plane toward a target - especially one you don't intend to survive the encounter with - than it is to take off. Yes, actual piloting involves all manner of skills and training, but "aim for the buildings" doesn't have as high of a learning curve
>>392814
Go check the news in Europe, Africa, or the middle east. There doesn't seem to be a week when a muzzie doesn't massacre others and itself. Muslims are basically just retarded jews that learn self destruct at level 30.
Go check the news in Europe, Africa, or the middle east. There doesn't seem to be a week when a muzzie doesn't massacre others and itself. Muslims are basically just retarded jews that learn self destruct at level 30.
>>392814
You really haven't heard of suicide bombers? I mean come on dude. You are reaching so hard here and you know it.
You really haven't heard of suicide bombers? I mean come on dude. You are reaching so hard here and you know it.
>>392817
>trust the news goy
>>392818
I have, strapping a bomb on your chest and running into a building is much more simple than training as a pilot then killing yourself through an airplane crash. Premeditated homicide doesn't work that way. Usually suicide bombers know their life is already on the line because someone else is after them, thus they end themselves with a final blow while killing their enemy. A Muslims hijacker entering the US via passport isn't that same situation
>trust the news goy
>>392818
I have, strapping a bomb on your chest and running into a building is much more simple than training as a pilot then killing yourself through an airplane crash. Premeditated homicide doesn't work that way. Usually suicide bombers know their life is already on the line because someone else is after them, thus they end themselves with a final blow while killing their enemy. A Muslims hijacker entering the US via passport isn't that same situation
>>392823
The news is lying about suicide bombers now? I'm sure the media just wants me to hate kebabs and end diversity.
No suicide bombers think they will get rewarded with virgins and will deal significant damage to the enemy. If you thought you would get 42 waifus and could cripple zog by giving your life would you not do it? That is the thinking.
The news is lying about suicide bombers now? I'm sure the media just wants me to hate kebabs and end diversity.
No suicide bombers think they will get rewarded with virgins and will deal significant damage to the enemy. If you thought you would get 42 waifus and could cripple zog by giving your life would you not do it? That is the thinking.
>>392825
>the media would never lie about x
You might as well just post on reddit at this point why are you even here
Where exactly did you learn that suicide bombers think this way? And why would any sane person accept that over CGI footage that's been proven to be CGI? Seems pretty braindead
>the media would never lie about x
You might as well just post on reddit at this point why are you even here
Where exactly did you learn that suicide bombers think this way? And why would any sane person accept that over CGI footage that's been proven to be CGI? Seems pretty braindead
>>392914
So 100% of the news is a lie then? All information from authoritative sources is just a big lie then? Sounds like Descartes' demon levels of deception. How would you even know 9/11 happened at all. How do you know the validity of your schizo boomer blogs? For example I know the validity of germ theory because technology I have personally worked with used those principles. So I can assume that the information is at least a useful model of reality that can be used to solve real world problems. How do you know the schizo boomer blogs are valid and not part of this satanic conspiracy you have yet to offer proof for beyond handshakes and boomers worried about over population.
So 100% of the news is a lie then? All information from authoritative sources is just a big lie then? Sounds like Descartes' demon levels of deception. How would you even know 9/11 happened at all. How do you know the validity of your schizo boomer blogs? For example I know the validity of germ theory because technology I have personally worked with used those principles. So I can assume that the information is at least a useful model of reality that can be used to solve real world problems. How do you know the schizo boomer blogs are valid and not part of this satanic conspiracy you have yet to offer proof for beyond handshakes and boomers worried about over population.
>>392915
You are really good at pulling strawmans out of your ass that have zero relation to anything I ever said. No one actually thinks the media lies about 100% of everything, you're just claiming they *would never lie* about a certain thing, they lie about things all the time. Please work on your reading comprehension.
>For example I know the validity of germ theory because technology I have personally worked with used those principles.
Lived experience doesn't equal evidence. Affirming the consequence by saying you worked in a certain field. Germ theory is bullshit because of the methodology that goes into claiming viruses and germs are contagious. No virus or germ has ever been isolated and shown to cause disease.
The proper job in your argument is to demonstrate a methodology that proves germ theory, not go on a rant about "look at me I worked a job". No serious person cares about expertise or credentials
You are really good at pulling strawmans out of your ass that have zero relation to anything I ever said. No one actually thinks the media lies about 100% of everything, you're just claiming they *would never lie* about a certain thing, they lie about things all the time. Please work on your reading comprehension.
>For example I know the validity of germ theory because technology I have personally worked with used those principles.
Lived experience doesn't equal evidence. Affirming the consequence by saying you worked in a certain field. Germ theory is bullshit because of the methodology that goes into claiming viruses and germs are contagious. No virus or germ has ever been isolated and shown to cause disease.
The proper job in your argument is to demonstrate a methodology that proves germ theory, not go on a rant about "look at me I worked a job". No serious person cares about expertise or credentials
>>392916
So 100% of the media isn't lying. Only the media that dispells your narrative. They even lie about random kebabs self destruction just to get the goyim to believe 9/11. All the documented cases of TB and HIV being transmissable and microscope pics are a lie so people will use medicine instead of prayer.
So 100% of the media isn't lying. Only the media that dispells your narrative. They even lie about random kebabs self destruction just to get the goyim to believe 9/11. All the documented cases of TB and HIV being transmissable and microscope pics are a lie so people will use medicine instead of prayer.
>>392917
>I put my trust in the media
We know you're a good goy you don't have to mention it twice
What documented cases? It can't be a case if there isn't a methodology to support those cases being true. Seems like you're evading a methodology
>I put my trust in the media
We know you're a good goy you don't have to mention it twice
What documented cases? It can't be a case if there isn't a methodology to support those cases being true. Seems like you're evading a methodology
>>392919
Can you tell me what you think is wrong with Robert Koch's work or the work of John Snow or John Lister? Or the work of Ernest Goodpasture, Helmet Ruska, and John Enders?
And I don't 100% trust the media, but I certainly trust the media more than dipshits who believe in talking snakes or that boomers with secret handshakes is proof the world is being depopulated.
Can you tell me what you think is wrong with Robert Koch's work or the work of John Snow or John Lister? Or the work of Ernest Goodpasture, Helmet Ruska, and John Enders?
And I don't 100% trust the media, but I certainly trust the media more than dipshits who believe in talking snakes or that boomers with secret handshakes is proof the world is being depopulated.
>>392920
Not sure why you're dropping people's names. What was the methodology they used? That matters more than the person
Usually "talking snakes" is an attack on the bible talking point and a context error, so I would just point and laugh by saying you deny objective morality. No wonder why you have terrible world views, they're built on a shitty foundation.
Also, secret handshakes are learned in secret societies. I'm sure secret societies and their actions are all coincidental?
Not sure why you're dropping people's names. What was the methodology they used? That matters more than the person
Usually "talking snakes" is an attack on the bible talking point and a context error, so I would just point and laugh by saying you deny objective morality. No wonder why you have terrible world views, they're built on a shitty foundation.
Also, secret handshakes are learned in secret societies. I'm sure secret societies and their actions are all coincidental?
>>392921
>people's names
These people were foundational in germ theory and virology. The fact that you don't recognize the names is telling. Robert Koch isolated anthrax and infected mice with anthrax proving it to be a disease causing agent. John Lister was the first to use antiseptics to prevent disease in surgery. John Snow traced cholera outbreaks to dirty water. John Enders isolated polio in human cell cultures. Ruska photographed tobacco mosaic virus. Ernest Goodpasture found how to isolate and cultivate viruses.
Die Ätiologie der Milzbrand-Krankheit, begründet auf die Entwicklungsgeschichte des Bacillus anthracis
https://annas-archive.org/md5/0b8362703b5fe07bfddb4bd18a44ca7e
On the Antiseptic Principle in the Practice of Surgery
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2310614/
On the Mode of Communication of Cholera
https://annas-archive.org/md5/196f69733f7d2e90166eb901bd130037
Cultivation of the Lansing Strain of Poliomyelitis Virus in Cultures of Various Human Embryonic Tissues
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17794160/
Die Sichtbarmachung von pflanzlichem Virus im Übermikroskop
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1939NW.....27..292K/abstract
The Susceptibility of the Chorio-Allantoic Membrane of Chick Embryos to Infection with the Fowl-Pox Virus
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2062632/
This is over a century of established work based on this. You not only need to tell why these are wrong, but why all the technologies and protocols based on these principles works.
>people's names
These people were foundational in germ theory and virology. The fact that you don't recognize the names is telling. Robert Koch isolated anthrax and infected mice with anthrax proving it to be a disease causing agent. John Lister was the first to use antiseptics to prevent disease in surgery. John Snow traced cholera outbreaks to dirty water. John Enders isolated polio in human cell cultures. Ruska photographed tobacco mosaic virus. Ernest Goodpasture found how to isolate and cultivate viruses.
Die Ätiologie der Milzbrand-Krankheit, begründet auf die Entwicklungsgeschichte des Bacillus anthracis
https://annas-archive.org/md5/0b8362703b5fe07bfddb4bd18a44ca7e
On the Antiseptic Principle in the Practice of Surgery
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2310614/
On the Mode of Communication of Cholera
https://annas-archive.org/md5/196f69733f7d2e90166eb901bd130037
Cultivation of the Lansing Strain of Poliomyelitis Virus in Cultures of Various Human Embryonic Tissues
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17794160/
Die Sichtbarmachung von pflanzlichem Virus im Übermikroskop
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1939NW.....27..292K/abstract
The Susceptibility of the Chorio-Allantoic Membrane of Chick Embryos to Infection with the Fowl-Pox Virus
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2062632/
This is over a century of established work based on this. You not only need to tell why these are wrong, but why all the technologies and protocols based on these principles works.
>>392923
Like I said, bad reading comprehension. You wanted to keep on discussing the people rather than their methodologies
Like I said, bad reading comprehension. You wanted to keep on discussing the people rather than their methodologies
>>392925
There methods are in the papers linked. I know you will jump up my ass if I get so much as make a small mistake so there they are in their entirety. Surely you can tell me what is wrong with these fundamental expirements.
There methods are in the papers linked. I know you will jump up my ass if I get so much as make a small mistake so there they are in their entirety. Surely you can tell me what is wrong with these fundamental expirements.
>>392932
Well I know in Robert Koch's method he used a streak plate and was able to make a slide proving it was anthrax and I'm pretty familiar with the streak plate method. So why don't we start there. Why do you think streak plate is insufficient to isolate a bacteria?
Well I know in Robert Koch's method he used a streak plate and was able to make a slide proving it was anthrax and I'm pretty familiar with the streak plate method. So why don't we start there. Why do you think streak plate is insufficient to isolate a bacteria?
>>392934
Well you start by cultivating a plate full of different bacteria then you take the bacteria from that plate to a new plate the you streak the nrw plate in a zigzag pattern until there is less and less of the original bactria and you can observe colonies with distinct morphology. You take a sample and use a stain then you can view bacteria that under a microscope and observe. If the bacteria is the same shape, arrangement, and all stains the same you have been successful. Surely you have heard of this method, right boomboom? It was taught to me freshmen year.
Well you start by cultivating a plate full of different bacteria then you take the bacteria from that plate to a new plate the you streak the nrw plate in a zigzag pattern until there is less and less of the original bactria and you can observe colonies with distinct morphology. You take a sample and use a stain then you can view bacteria that under a microscope and observe. If the bacteria is the same shape, arrangement, and all stains the same you have been successful. Surely you have heard of this method, right boomboom? It was taught to me freshmen year.
>>392935
Key word "cultivation"
You know what kinds of chemicals are used in cultivation? Disinfectants, alcohols, detergents, oxidizing agents, formaldehyde, Ortho-phthalaldehyde, Dimethyl sulfoxide, acids, bases, dyes, and stains. After using all these chemicals for your cultivation your going to say that it's the virus or germ that caused the disease.
Key word "cultivation"
You know what kinds of chemicals are used in cultivation? Disinfectants, alcohols, detergents, oxidizing agents, formaldehyde, Ortho-phthalaldehyde, Dimethyl sulfoxide, acids, bases, dyes, and stains. After using all these chemicals for your cultivation your going to say that it's the virus or germ that caused the disease.
>>392937
You clearly did not read any of the methods. Nor do you have any experience in a lab, even a highschool biolohy student would know what agar is. The only thing used to grow the bacteria is agar and in the case of koch beaf broth fortified agar. The agar is sterilized with heat and pressure before use. The dye is only used to help confirm the species. It is not put into the organism.
You clearly did not read any of the methods. Nor do you have any experience in a lab, even a highschool biolohy student would know what agar is. The only thing used to grow the bacteria is agar and in the case of koch beaf broth fortified agar. The agar is sterilized with heat and pressure before use. The dye is only used to help confirm the species. It is not put into the organism.
>>392938
Koch also used gelatin, tuberculin, staining dyes, and potentially other chemicals too. You left those out, almost as if you did not read any of the methods
Koch also used gelatin, tuberculin, staining dyes, and potentially other chemicals too. You left those out, almost as if you did not read any of the methods
>>392939
He did not inject the mice with those in the anthrax experiment we are discussing nor did he use any of those in culturing the bacteria. Drop the charade you haven't into any of this. You read some dipshit's blog. You don't even have to take my word for it. You could do this fucking expirement at home with a $200 microscope, immersion oil, agar, polypropylene plates, broth (real broth no salt), a microwave, and a pressure cooker.
He did not inject the mice with those in the anthrax experiment we are discussing nor did he use any of those in culturing the bacteria. Drop the charade you haven't into any of this. You read some dipshit's blog. You don't even have to take my word for it. You could do this fucking expirement at home with a $200 microscope, immersion oil, agar, polypropylene plates, broth (real broth no salt), a microwave, and a pressure cooker.
>>392940
Don't be silly, good boomer goy that puts his faith in the media and science authorities. I didn't even read a blog about koch I actually did AI searches fyi. Besides, a blog is capable of demonstrating a methodology, just like a science paper can, or a YouTube video can. It doesn't matter the source that would be a genetic fallacy, what matters are demonstrating results.
If something that doesnt usually belong into a host is inserted into a host, then it can be a problem for that Host. It doesn't matter if it's oil, agar, or any chemical for that matter
Don't be silly, good boomer goy that puts his faith in the media and science authorities. I didn't even read a blog about koch I actually did AI searches fyi. Besides, a blog is capable of demonstrating a methodology, just like a science paper can, or a YouTube video can. It doesn't matter the source that would be a genetic fallacy, what matters are demonstrating results.
If something that doesnt usually belong into a host is inserted into a host, then it can be a problem for that Host. It doesn't matter if it's oil, agar, or any chemical for that matter
>>392943
The agar is not injected into the host. The bacteria after being purified is then grown in beef culture and the bacteria is further diluted into water and injected into the mice.
The agar is not injected into the host. The bacteria after being purified is then grown in beef culture and the bacteria is further diluted into water and injected into the mice.
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