A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill. Examples include:
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
>you think the pharmaceutical companies are greedy assholes who pray on the despairation of sick people?
>Well I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
>you think mega companies moved jobs overseas because the CEOs are amoral pieces of shit who care more about money than the future of their country?
>Well I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
>you are worried about 5G because you think it will greatly enhance digital surveillance?
>well I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
>you think the covid vaccine was bad because lockdowns were used as an excuse to attack political enemies and side effects were ultimately worse than the disease?
>well I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
>you are worried about AI because of job loss, propaganda bots, and surveillance concerns?
>well I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
>you hate Hollywood movies because they are controlled by a few studios who push stale liberal trash?
>well I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
Ect
It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well. This has only gotten worse over time and I suspect it will only continue get worse over time. Is there any way this can be stopped before it collapses under the weight of its own bullshit into a flat earth singularity?
And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent, but silly shit like germ theory denial and flat earth are becoming more common especially on the right. Is there a way to stop this?
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>>392645>Blogs are independent, take mainstream science and rip it apart.But they are randos who will say anything. What wins is not the scientific method on blogs, but what gets the most hits. And many of them are not independent. Look at the vigilant fox for example, who is paid to promote herbal "cancer treatments" or Alex Jones who makes most of his money from supplements.
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/exclusive-cancer-secrets-revealedhttps://www.infowarsstore.com/ >>392649We can agree that Bill Gates is a twisted, evil fuck that wants to kill off humanity, but that doesn't mean he's successfully done it (yet). That simply isn't evidence.
If anything, the vaccine was probably more of a test trial to see if feat could motivate people to take experimental injections en mass.
>>392649>The fact is the one of the main manufacturers and promoters was Bill GatesBill Gates said that vaccines are good and the world has too many people so that means there is a secret plan to depopulate the planet with mRNA? That is retarded.
>>392653>but what gets the most hitsIs your goal profit or science? The two can rarely be reconciled. If the science matters to you then stop letting academia become centralized entity. The whole point of the internet was to decentralize this shit.
>>392654>That simply isn't evidence.Well, if my neighbor buys poison and talks about my neighborhood being too crowded, I would be worried. Sure, there is not evidence of him being a poisoner, but there is not evidence on the contrary either.
>>392654I hate Bill Gates because he monopolized his shit software and kikerosoft tries to force you to use it, but I don't think he is trying to end humanity. Just a shitstain who profits off of enshittification.
>If anything, the vaccine was probably more of a test trial to see if feat could motivate people to take experimental injections en mass.Given all of the different tech that was tested all over the world this is more plausible. Still my personal belief is that governments simply overreacted to a lab leak and used the opportunity to test new technologies.
>>392655>That is retardedSure. As you need an IQ of only above 70 to join the dots.
>>392652You don't have to believe in academics if you don't want to, but at least post something more substantial than random social media screencaps.
>>392651>You are forfiting your ability to participate in academics as a processThis is a very good point.
>>392657First you would need to find evidence of the poison depopulating the world.
>>392656>Is your goal profit or science? The two can rarely be reconciled.Profit motivates science all the time. Corporations want research that produces actual results, not just propaganda. If anything, profit is what keeps academia in line.
>>392660>If anything, profit is what keeps academia in line.In line by who? The oligarch maybe?
>>392656I do not like the centralization, I do have problems with journals and that probably deserves a thread. Academia having problems does not mean random blogs or social media are credible.
>>392659>Bill Gates likes vaccines and said the world has too many people. That means he will kill us all with mRNA.Yeah that sounds like something that somebody with an IQ of 70 would come up with.
>>392662By the people who want research that produces profitable products, technologies, data and methodology.
>>392664>I do not like the centralization, I do have problems with journals and that probably deserves a thread. Academia having problems does not mean random blogs or social media are credible.This.
>>392666>By the people who want research that produces profitable products, technologies, data and methodology.Exactly, let those people fill their pockets. And let people walking the opposite sidewalk continue their research.
>>392660Science can be fueled by money, autism, or both. Often both, but when there's no money for somthing you know is important then the latter should be plenty. A lot of early internet academics was volenteer stuff, and that never stopped, it's just not search engine optimal. Search engines will die soon with the whole AI thing, so in the new age of manual indexing that will be as much a non-issue as the prior age of manual indexing.
>>392664A peer reviewed paper is a peer reviewed paper. Don't let authority overtake the scientific process itself.
>>392668I notice you aren't posting any research. You are posting screenshots on social media and the opinions of literally whos.
>>392671>I notice you aren't posting any research.I believe you are confusing me with another anon.
>>392670I actually think there should be some degree of oversight. Look at India which has the exact opposite of the western problem where journals are expensive to access and publish in. Indian scientists just publish bullshit in predatory journals and nothing can trusted. What science really needs is an institution dedicated to replication studies, but how to make that institution I am not sure.
>>392673>Indian scientists just publish bullshit in predatory journals and nothing can trusted.You have a very valid point on shitskins. But Whites doing scrutiny are not in the same boat.
>>392673Something like wikipedia would do it. Perhaps not wikipedia itself, it's dealing with scope creep and might be better done with a federated model. That said, wikis are generally good for this sort of oversight when they have rules as thourough as wikipedia's.
>>392672Oh it seems I am. Looks like you posted a study done in rats and tried to pass that off as solid proof of depopulation
>>391377 see I notice this is a pattern among antivaxxers. Like you will post a rat study, or an unreplicated cancer cell culture study, or study with 13 people where the control group is N=3 and then in the next breath you will bitch about the replication crisis without realizing the irony.
>>392674Whites aren't immune to this. Look at leaded gasoline.
>>392675The instution would need funding and how do you make funding replication studies profitable?
>>392679On top of this it would need to heavily incentivize scientists. No one ever became famous for being the second person to discover something.
>>392676>antivaxxersHuh? Are you a covidian perhaps?
>>392681I'm whatever word you want to use for people who think the depopulation narrative is retarded.
>>392682>depopulation narrativeSpelled it out by Bill Gates himself and billionaires pals, I remind you.
>>392681And you seem to be deliberately avoiding the point. The study you posted was a rat study and over 90% of those studies are not translatable to humans and can be difficult to replicate (although not as difficult as something like cancer cell culture studies)
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>>392683No you made a jump that bill gates is part of some greater conspiracy because he likes vaccines and is worried about overpopulation. You offered no solid evidence that this conspiracy exists.
>>392687>No you made a jumpA very fair assessment I would say.
>>392689I'm surprised and glad that you are familiar with the database to get fast searches.
>>392688No it's a jump. The dude worried about over population and most elites started worrying about depopulation a while back and the dude likes vaccines. That doesn't point to a global conspiracy to depopulate the planet with mRNA.
>>392690Look I linked a biology textbook in this thread. It is a good entry level book. Has lots of great information and it was written before covid. Give it a read. You might actually find it interesting and it would at least help you determine if the papers you read are good or not.
>>392692Fair enough. However I'm well above a biology book. Let me explain to you a mammal body in lay terms, It is basically a boiler, fuel goes in and exhaust residue goes out and you have a useful product transformed into physical movement and brain activity.
>>392693I honestly don't think you are above an entry level book. You didn't know that animal studies are poorly translated to humans. That is pretty basic knowledge in the field. Give it a read there is lots to learn.
>>392695And how might 80 million years worth of evolution might have lead to differences between humans and mice?
>>392696>80 million years worth of evolutionWell, we have veeeeeeeeery divergent views here.
First of all, carbon dating is so unreliable that it is almost a fraud.
Second, Evolution is just a theory and can't be used as proof.
>>392697>carbon dating is unreliable Carbon dating is not the only dating used. Potassium argon dating for example is much more accurate for older samples.
>just a theory. That word doesn't mean what you think it means. It means there is a lot of research backing it up. Electromagnetism, gravity, and cell theory are all "just theories" I somehow doubt you have a problem with any of those. There is lots of evidence for evolution even aside from the fossil record. Look at chromosome 2 for example or the many similarities that mitochondria and chloroplasts have with bacteria.
>>392697But I think I finally understand why you get so upset when others deny your satanic conspiracy, because the satanic conspiracy is supposed to tie in with the rapture. You dislike science because most scientists agree with evolution and trying to learn why the believe that may force you to evaluate your beliefs. The evidence for evolution is pretty strong and evolution would destroy the orgin story of the bible and invalidate the whole thing. The covid vax depopulation shit came later. Evolution is what your distaste for science is about. When you call people who disagree with your religion shills you are not doing so because you believe they are government agents you do so because you believe the views they express will damn others to hell and the very expression of those beliefs is harmful. Stop using the word shill when the word you are looking for is heretic.
>>392698>gravityNo serious scientist knows what the fuck it is, tbh.
>There is lots of evidence for evolutionMake a search here for "Don Patton". This guy is an archeologist, scholar, and knows a lot about rocks and paleontology. There are videos of him debating evolutionist professors (aka shysters) and publicly shame them for being utter charlatans.
>>392679>The instution would need fundingFederation can minimize that cost considerably
>how do you make funding replication studies profitable?Maintained and profitable are two different things
>>392700>because the satanic conspiracy is supposed to tie in with the rapture.WTF
I'm an ancient Pagan, fren.
>>392701Fair point on gravity, but it isn't really disputed that the phenomenon exists.
An archeologist might not be the best person to ask about genetics and I looked him up and didn't find anything about chromosome 2 or the similarities between mitochondria and chloroplasts and bacteria.
>>392698>>392700See
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Don Patton is a hardcore christian, however from a scientist point of view (not religion is needed), he destroys the Evolution nonsense.
>>392702I'll make a thread on peer review and journals tomorrow. It's more than just funding that would need to change. The "publish or perish" attitude would need to change too.
>>392704I didn't think there were people who seriously believed paganism stuff. The pagans I met were secular and believed the gods and stories were metaphors for human behavior. Also why link me to a christian creation scientist?
>>392708>Also why link me to a christian creation scientist?Because the uses science and only science to debunk Evolution. No religion needed.
>>392708>The pagans I met were secular and believed the gods and stories were metaphors for human behavior.I'm secular, however I know about the other side, call it the occult if you wish.