/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

>>113503
>merchants making things
"What do you know of he Dragon lands? Is it a plane exclusive to dragons, or is it an area in possession of dragons?"

>>113498
Topaz nods.
"They're the nicest ponies around. They carry my stuff, do my braids when Diamond is busy and do whatever I say."
She smiles.
"They can do your mane if you'd like. You did bring them back here, after all."

>>113505
Mercanes make demiplane Bazaars all of the time. Demiplanes are a natural habitat for the plane-jews. That's why a Mercane encounter in the ELH includes the Mercane being escorted by a 23rd level Union Sentinel.

"It's not a plane." Sister Ash says. "It's continent."
"The Dragon Lands, as ponies call it, is a hotspot (pun intended) for many of the dragons and draconic who frequent nearby continents. The landscape matches the attitude of the creatures; arcane energies from the powerful sorcerous beasts who live there being infused into the soil itself. It's littered in volcanoes, canyons, and vast lakes of lava. It's prone to volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, tornadoes, volatile arcane weather and acidic downpours. It's the home of mountain-sized behemoths with herculean strength and magical powers, and the land itself trembles with generations of strife. The dragons there are just as covetous and destructive as you'd expect; all battleling for supremacy with talor and fire and the battering of wings, be it with eachother or with the gargantuan monsters who call the land their home." she says, a bit dreamily
"It's also just north of my people's homeland, separated by the peaks of Peril. I would love to visit there again, it's been so long since I've seen my old country..."
>>113507
Sister Ash cocks an eyebrow at that
"Mane care.. Is something i have a bit of trouble with at times.." she says, fishing yet another sprig of mistletoe out of her golden hair

>>113519
Topaz simply chuckles.
"With the giant amount of mane you have, it's a given."
She turns curious.
"What about you? You said you were part of a circle? What's that all about?"

>>113521
"Well, I guess 'circle' might be a bit of a strong word.." Sister admits
"The creatures of my religion are more attuned to solitary and quiet lifestyles, preferring to remain alone in our chosen territories; however, those us with like minds occasionally meet with one another on certain occasions, perhaps assemble crusades of divide up directional territory. We sometimes call our short-lived clergy 'circles', although it's nothing very official." the Sister continues
"It was upon suggestion of a few members of my faith that I return to this world after so many decades of shepherding the Blessed Fields. In the Blessed fields, both the living and the dead are allowed to live in harmony, but I am neither dead nor dying, the plane did not entrap or beckon me to fulfill its petition. It felt to me as though my service to the light in Thalasia was not necessary, even in all my devotion, so I concluded my tenure in paradise was overdue...
The mortal world is my home. I was born here, and I used my horn to protect this land and its beauty for many, many years in the past.. It's only natural that I should should die here as well in my service to nature, even if my soul is promised the Elysium." she says, with a sigh
"And so, when a brother of my sect came to the circle with the premonition that this world would face turmoil in this century, I knew it was time to leave paradise and make the pilgrimage back to this world, for good this time." she finishes, with a rather nostalgic look

>>113524
Topaz nods, a bit uncomfortable but ultimately understanding she's happy to be here in a broad sense.
"Ah, I see. So you had a vague idea that the dragon looking thing would arrive here. Interesting."
She smiles nonetheless.
"I sure hope my thousands of ponies don't disturb your quiet lifestyle."
He chuckles sheepishly while both Phospy and Diamond try to close the gap between them and her to give her some reassuring affection.

Oh wait, i forgot I've got levitate as an SLA in this form
>tfw still no fly speed
*uses Levitate on the party*

>>113526
Were we falling to our deaths or something to warrant the spell?

>>113527
Nothing is happening. The party will appear on a solid surface in the dragonlands where the crystal is, if there is one.

>>113528
I know nothing is happening, but I think the Levitate is a bit unecessary.

>>113526
Cowe resists. "Thank you, but I can fly."

>>113529
It was more of a joke made about supposedly spinning around in a void for the 10 minutes during which the party teleports.
It's an at-will ability anyway. I was just remembering i had it.
>>113531
"Wouldn't you want to save that for when you need it?"

>>113532
Ohok
Sorry 'bout that XP
I honestly wanted her to keep spinning.

>>113532
"At will," she says, tapping the winged mask

Yertle, meanwhile, is levitating cross-legged and meditating silently, as he usually does.

>>113536
Topaz giggles like a filly as she spins.
"Wee~"

>>113534
"How convenient." Sister replies, unironically

>>113538
Cowe simply smiles in response.

>>113539
Sister smiles back.

>>113539
>>113540
Topaz simply looks at them both with a smile as well.
Phospy, now regained its ability to move, huddles closer to Topaz a bit anxious.
Diamond simply stops in place, looking at nothing in particular.

Huh, Titan has Persistent Image too.
*creates illusionary coy fish swimming around in circles as figments of elevator music play in the background*

>>113542
Phospy follows the coy fish, biting at them in an attempt to feed himself further or a desire to hunt.

>>113543
pic related

>>113541
>>113540
I should probably post this here.
This isn't a criticism or a complaint, but an explanation of where I (and Cowe) are coming from. At the moment she's minimally responsive because they're flying through a storm en route to no doubt do a fierce battle. She had expected that this sort of discussion would/should have occurred in the tavern. Additionally, I could have her say something like "If you think this is convenient, you should see my Phoenix Cloak", but that's not something she would reveal to anyone except in combat, otherwise stored in her ring of arming.

>>113544
Phospy ain't afraid!
He keeps on munching on those invisible fishies!

Meanwhile Topaz giggles at his antics.
>>113545
Good to know.

>>113546
Every time he thinks he has a fish, it splits into two fish.

>>113547
Oh shit!

Phospy gets increasingly more anxious as the fishes grow in numbers.
>"I'll get all of you before you get me!"

>>113548
The fish form into a school that looks like ginormous giga-fish.

Illusions are fun.

>>113549
Phospy is starting a panic a bit!
>"I'll never surrender to food! Come get some!"
He charges at the ginormous giga-fish, swiping at it.

>>113550
Ggafish cackles evilly.
Roll a will to disbelieve (DC 24)

>>113552
The dragon, upon charging through the school of fictional fish, realizes they aren't real.

He can hear a certain dragonborn snickering in the background.

>>113553
Phospy, upon realizing he's been making a fool out of himself, becomes extremely flustered, hiding his face with his wings as he walks over to Topaz's side, who's also chuckling at his antics.

>>113554
The nun chuckles lightly and reclines in mid air, more fictional goldfish swimming around her.

Master Yertle is still meditating, but you looked closely you might notice a slight smirk at the corner of his mouth.

>>113555
Phospy is staring daggers at the nun who dared humiliate him, but is immediately chided by Topaz, who in turn, looks at his master with puppy ears, rewarding him with some pats on the head from the still spinning mare.
This obviously makes the room a little more steamy.

>>113558
*puppy eyes

>>113605
Now you're begging it to happen.

>>113607
Shush it! No barbarian, no chance!
Czechmate!

>>113609
Y-you don't give GM ideas, either! That's cheating!

>>113610
I love Frenzied Berserkers. For an ubercharger build, it's gotta be one of the best barbarian PRC there is, outside the Tome of Battle that is. I'd say the possibility of being a berserker is what make barbrian tier 4 instead of tier 5 like >Fighter.
The downside is the slight pssibility of wiping out your own party in the case that yo run out of enemis, but greese, marbles, or invisibility sphere can fx that.

2 Barbarian + 2 Fighter + 10 Frenzied Berserker + 2 Ronin has gotta be the best kind of brute force build that doesn't abuse mechanical loopholes.

I always preferred uberchargers to hurlers. Logarithmic scaling damage to thrown objects with hurlers is cool and all, but it really doesn't compare to being able to run up to something and lop it to pieces, HP be dammed.

>>113617
>>113613
>>113611
Silence! Stop your ideas! You won't splatter my nice innocent mind controller with anything's brain matter!

... seriously?

>>113626
Wait, what happened?
Are you alright?

>>113629
Think he might be a tad annoyed about the continued meta posting.

>>113630
Ahok.
I figured the problem was meta posting of the actual characters in the campaign, not meta posting in general.

>>113631
IMO, meta-posting about the campaign is bad. Meta-posting NOT about the campaign is worse. But that's just my opinion

>>113617
I had the idea for a Blood-horse human hybrid centaur, bred and raised by evil mages in a tortuous monster spawning camp since the PC was little. I like chaotic characters if they have tragic backstories: it's the exact kind of cliche edge that just does it for me if it's the fluff for a truly insane character.
It'd be beautiful. Take a human and a blood-horse tauric creature. Make it a Proto-creature and a Blooded One, it'd basically be an escaped experiment. That'd be 4 racial hit dice (monstrous humanoid) and +2 level adjustment; so it'd have to start at lvl 6, and wouldn't even have any class levels then. That's really, really pricey, and being a normal human, dwarf, orc or goliath would probably be better, but the idea of playing a magebred, dungeonbred Blood-horse centaur, sounds so freaking badass and sexy.
Give her Shocktrooper and leap attack; plus the Turn On A Charge Skill Trick. Then give it Centaur Trample and Spirited Charge. Equip it with a Lance of Endless Charge and you've got a psychopathic warrior that can straight up drill through armies of monsters.

>>113636
Oh.
I'll stop now.
I'm just bored today. Campus is out, and i couldn't go to work either..

>>113641
You could always make a new thread

>>113658
Dude. You can fuck off with your salt

Ah, that's much better.

>>113662
Some one who has deliberately left you alone and not bothered you, and would appreciate it very much if you didn't make snarky insults unprovoked

>>113664
Have any of your posts here been deleted?

>>113666
Then please, for the love of God, stop bitching about post deletions. You've done it two or three times in these two threads, and it's just bringing up drama that has no place in these threads. Let sleeping dogs lie, as they should

>>113667
Can't we let it go? I'd like to have not wasted all the time I've invested in this.

>>113673
That was my question to him

>>113676
It doesn't matter now. I got what I needed.
I'll delete my posts now.

>>113676
I'm just saying. I felt I had to shitpost at him, and it almost destroyed the game we're trying to build. I'm asking, please, let it go. He may say stuff, but who is listening? And who is taking sides?
Tl:dr Nigger, please (note, not Nigger please!)

So I have decided to quit this campaign. The reasons for this are: I can't into epic level and I don't like how the game treats illusionist on high this high level.

Epic level is way to complicated for a newbie like me. I would probablly not even rememeber all the spell I'd have. There will simply be too many components to keep track on to act actually act accordingly to any situation.

There is also the fact that I find it more intresting to have a few very limited abilities that I have to really use the rules in my advantage rather than having all the abilities and the hard part is to rememeber the one ability that is useful for this situation. For example I throw minor illusion on a couple of flat small rocks to make them look like coins or something valueable and then bribe the gatekeeper to a city. This is something I think is more fun than just realizing that I have greater teleportation and can just appear on the inside of a the walls.

The character concept I had in mind doesn't work on epic level either it seems. I wanted an illusionist that could not damage creatures directly. Like I wouldn't have any evocation spells or such damaging spells but I would use illusionary wall to have my enemies fall down through pits and the other such tricks.

Now however, it seems that the highest level illusion spells like simulacrum and etc. are spells that do damage and such instead of just manipulating the senses of others. It doesn't help that lower levels of spells are completely disregarded for monster you face on epic level since they have truesight. Which means the entire lower- to middle-levels of the school of illusion is made irrelevant.

So you can do whatever you want with my pc make it an npc who follows the party around, have her die in funny or serious manner, or just forget that she was even with you at all. You have my consent to do whatever with her.

I like to thank you anons who have helped me and that you have been very welcomming towards me. And to the GM I also want to say that your campaign seems really fun and your description are great. You got Discord's personality done to a tea? T? t. The reasons for me leaving is these mechinical aspects I have probelms with rather than the narrative, the pcs, or anything else related to that.

>>113727
I thought it was time related issues
In any case, it's understandable. Have good time, Sven.
Here's cat pic

>>113727
Illusion schools aren't all that bad. It's an entire school of magic, and Illusionists/Beguilers get access to almost all of them; often so potent that enemies at epic level only have some immensities (mostly just the deific ones) because they'd be too easy to defeat otherwise.
There are a lot of illusion spells at every level that are effective and useful in pretty much every adventure. Rainbow patterns, Silent Image, Persistent Image, Ice Assassin, Mirage Arcana, Superior Invisibility, Seeming, scintillating pattern, Mirror Image, Project Image, Shadow Walk, Silence, Seeming, Ghost Sound, Major Image, Nightmare Terrain, Weird, Greater Mirror Image, Phantom Battle, Shadow Well, Sensory Deprivation, Hallucinatory Terrain, Shades... etc. Some may not work on some deific abominations who have explicit immensities, but a lot of illusion spells are potent dragon-killers.
For a spellcaster, being able to confuse, delay, slow, hide from or incapacitate an enemy is often more useful than just blasting them with evocations (fireball is overrated), because an enemy at 1 HP is just as dangerous as an enemy at 1000 HP. Being able to hold an enemy still for even one round is often more valuable than just damaging them. It's certainly better than being a tier 5 Fighter, who would instantly be made irrelevant by Summoning and Polymorph spells.
Beguilers also get a lot of good Enchantment, Abjuration, Conjuration, and Transmutation spells, like Haste, Mindblank, Glibness, Dominate Monster, Misdirection, Heroism, Blink, Vertigo Field, Legion Of Sentinels, Swift Etherealness, Fog Cloud, Detect Secret Doors, Mage Armor Sending, Telapathic Bond, Repulsion, Freedom Of Movement, Incite Riot, Time Stop, Power Word Kill, Demand, Spell Turning, Greater Dispel Magic, Break Enchantment, Moment Of Prescience, Arcane Sight... etc, and they get all of those good ones without needing to select them. They also get a lot of rogue-like stealth and deception skills (a Beguiler with maxed out bluff and Glibness can fool even a deity with Divine Insight), and class features and bonus feats that allow their illusion and enchantment spell to affect monsters that would normally be immune. It seems as though the main thing this party lacks is stealth, so a beguiler would fit the niche better than any rogue ever could (they're Int-based, so they usually get more skill point per level than a rogue does anyway). Their illusion spells can be made even more potent when backed up with the almighty bluff skill, since enemies might believe your figments even if they make their saves.

Yeah, yeah, this was an excuse to geek-out about Beguilers being my favorite tier 3 class, sue me. It's all true though. Illusions are underrated and lots of fun.

However, if you think it's too annoying to get a hang of the meta to make a lvl 25 character, when you've never actually played 3.5e before, that's understandable (I'd gladly help, but I don't want to force you). On the other hand, 3.5e at lvl 25 is pretty much the same as it is at lvl 25 works about the same way it does at lvl 5, except the monsters are tougher and the party gets capable of more shenanigans: it's kind of like an MORPG in that sense where everything just keeps scaling; and it's moreso harder to balance as a DM than it is to play, since arcane spellcasters quickly become demigods while fighters lag behind (barbarians and martial adepts are good though). The worst case scenario is that you just die repeatedly, in which case my PC could bring you back to life every time without even losing levels or constitution.
I really like your character though: the shy but talented illusionist idea sounds pretty cool. Hope to see you again some time, even if it's just lurking commentary.

*makes more illusionary fish*

>>113732
*plays choir music*

>>113732
>>113824
[Increasingly distressed dragon noises]

>>113730
>(I'd gladly help, but I don't want to force you)
Thanks but I wll decline your kind offer.
> Hope to see you again some time, even if it's just lurking commentary.
That is garanteed.

>>113893
I will lurk this campaign. I can tell you that.

>>113895
>>113893
It's nice to have a spectator talking from time to time.

>>113893
If at any point you want to look at or lurk the other campaign, that offer is open too

>>113897
I won't lurk it but I might join. I will have to talk to the GM privately about my character if I do so.

Your campaign don't have the two problems listed above since it is low level in comparizion. Yet, your campaign seem to be even harder to play in since you seem to play every night, which is not an option for me. I might be able to play on weekends, however. There are many ways to solve this problem. If the GM want to he can play my pc as an npc when I am not around. He can even have it die during that time. Since no good story outcome is garanteed I will just roll with the punches. That's just how I'm going to play.

I'm stoked to play tonight.

Any word?

>>114083
Wagering 8 PM EST

>>114084
I might be delayed 15-ish minutes
Feel free to start without me though. I don't want to spend the whole session teleportating again.

I'm going to be a bit longer.

Role call my dudes.

>>114088
My presence is limited

>>113727
I understand that, I'm sad to see you go, but I respect your decision.
>>114089
Noted
>>114086
Not noted, you'll be here yesterday.

>>114088
Ready.

>>114090
Here

>>114092
>>114091
Three outta five players are here.
We'll wait a few minutes longer incase the other two show up.

Can I start by casting some spells?
I'd like to cast Primal Instinct, Primal Speed, Mindblank, and Traveler's Mount.

>>114094
>traveler's mount
Big thonk, why does a horse need a mount?

>>114095
It's a very useful buff for my tortoise. It'd increase is base speed to 40.

>>114096
>fast turtle
Ah, I see discord is even infecting you
fine

Stormwalk should have placed us as close to the crystal as physically possible, under open sky.

A storm would have brewed 10 minutes beforehand on the site of our arrival; intelligent creatures could tell that the storm was magical.

What do we see?

>>114098
>>114097
I'm now 3/4 able.
Should be able to act now

>>114100
*3/5
The others should hopefully be here soon

Dragons fly across a clear sky, enjoying their day as storm clouds roll in. A few of the more curios ones look interested in this, but most ignore it. Soon the sky is overcast, and even the carefree dragons relaxing in the craters filled with lava look confused by the sudden change in weather.
Crack
Five lightning bolts split the air, depositing a cao, two unicorns, a pegasus, and a kirin in the middle of the rocky land before the clouds disappear.
Many dragons are staring.

>>114097
Okay.
Sister casts Mindblank on herself, rendering herself impervious to divination as well as mind-affecting effects. This is a 24 hour duration.
Then she casts Primal Instinct on herself, gaining a +5 competence bonus to Initiative and Survival checks.
Since she is of the Dragonblood subtype, she also gain a +5 insight bonus to a knowledge skill of her choice. Since we're in the dragonlands, I'll pick arcana.
She then casts Primal Senses, gaining a +5 competence bonus to Spot and Listen checks. Since she is of the dragonblood subtype, the radius of her blindsense increase by 10 feet.
Since she has both primal instinct and primal sense active, she gains uncanny dodge, as a barbarian.

THen she casts traveller's mount on Yertle to increase his speed.
>>114099
No u
>>114101
Sister Waves over to the dragons.
"~Youhoo. Sorry to drop in so suddenly."

>>114101
Topaz smiles sheepishly for intruding so suddenly.
"Greetings."
What about the Earth Poner and Dragon tho?
She bows curtly.