/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>393318
>The US entered the war because Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot, the President of the United States of America.
Tbh, I think Bibi has yet to get the result he wanted. Bibi wants total regime change in Iran, and he wants the USA to fight the war for him. Trump just bombed a couple nuclear sites that can be rebuilt in a couple months.
Trump is motivated by vanity, and war is an ugly thing. He clearly wants this conflict over as soon as possible. He's also a narcissist, and seems to be keen on detecting manipulative egocentrists like Bibi who would try to disrespect and take advantage of him: that's why he was so openly angry at Bibi and berates him on TV the other day for breaking the ceasefire.
Trump is definitely still a Zionist and will do what's best for Israel, but I don't think he's going to buy into Bibi's self-destructive warmongering plan just yet.

>>393321
>Bibi wants total regime change in Iran
Yup, and he has already been pressuring Trump to "finish the job".
>Trump is motivated by vanity
Well, he can take comfort in the fact that he can call himself a wartime President, setting himself up alongside Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Reagan, and George W. Bush.
>Trump is definitely still a Zionist and will do what's best for Israel
He moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, long in Bibi's wish-list because it affirms Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.

>>393290
>>393292
>BLAH BLAH
you write too much and you care too much about what people say on the internet
that means you still have some dignity and hope to care to prove yourself for a random nigga on the internet
at this point i am just too depressed to give a fuck who is a good firend and who is a bad foe
life has been shit for all of us in iran
anyway
glad you're alive , and i don't care if you're basiji or npc or mossad or whatever the fuck you identify as
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also you need to stop talking to that arabtard, that guy is a troll and he never posts in a good faith

Side note:
i swear to god the whole IRGC runs by the Jews
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CENSOR A SITE THAT IS BASED ON ANTI_SEMETISM and hating on israeli dildo nose jews?!
that is a ((GOOD THING))

>>393292
wow i made a mistake by actually reading that....
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE??!?!?!?
the main character ass mentality syndrome
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you are defending iran in a 4chan based site
by shit posting about israel
THAT IS NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING!! not for iran not against israel
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let me honest with you
Iran is not Persia , stop with the delusional nationalism
see the bad sides
persia was that father that was like a veteran hero whom was respected by everyone in the family
Islamic republic of iran is that autistic child who is a total embarrassment for the whole family , a retarded guy who is hated by everyone
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>>393291
welcome to mlpol , everyone are a jew shill until proven wrong (which never happens)
i am not a kafer , i born christian and i die as a christian
deal with it
i am not a nihilist , i just hate humanity as a whole
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god you are sad and you are trying too much for idk for what reason and i am not sure what the fuck are you trying to prove here

>>393322
>Yup, and he has already been pressuring Trump to "finish the job".
I don't think Trump is going to do it. If he were open to doing that he would have done it already, and not played around bombing the nuclear sites or brokering ceasefires.
>Well, he can take comfort in the fact that he can call himself a wartime President, setting himself up alongside Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Reagan, and George W. Bush
Except the era of those assholes being popular has passed. There is no public appetite for war with Iran, despite what neocon warhawks claim.
>He moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, long in Bibi's wish-list because it affirms Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.
Yeah, I know. He's a Zionist shabbos goy. This has been clear for years.
Idk if that means he's about to enter total war with Iran though.

Iran’s Supreme Leader Threatens to Attack More U.S. Military Bases: “We Slapped America in the Face”

LOL, no. They lightly fondled our dick. If they're really feeling froggy, they could always, I dunno. TOUCH THE BOATS.

>[YouTube] Dont Touch America's Boats [Embed]

I refuse to be held responsible for the consequences that follow if they do, though.

>>393327
it is just bluffing , don't worry , from the day i born i was hearing him saying that he will destroy israel and usa
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did anyone here saw those AI khamenei speeches??
i don't have twitter so i cannot post the actual video but here it is with ass-mon reaction (sorry about that)
[YouTube] Iran response to Trump.. [Embed]

>>393328
i can't with the fucking accent in the video....that is not farsi accent

>>393284
>Idiot! Who even asked for a lecture on arab culture for you to start copy-pasting the entire arab encyclopedia?!
3 lines of words about arabs isn't an entire encyclopedia you're just too retarded to comprehend it
>Let me explain something to you, maybe then you'll actually understand what this is about:
>I'm a Lur myself, and I spent the first 13 years of my life in Khuzestan, living among Lurs and Arabs. I've seen Arab culture firsthand, the festivals, the traditions, the community. I know enough about it, and unlike you, I actually respect the Arabs of Khuzestan.
>They have real honor, courage, and a warrior spirit, their culture means something.
People of khuzestan are part-persoid mutts in both ways of culture and dna which is probably why you don't bother them because they're almost as swarthy as your "people", not because they have real honor or whatever you're babbling about
>My whole point is: why don't you arabs know your own identity anymore?
>Why have you abandoned your deeper culture in other countries and started acting like losers?
We haven't abandoned anything, the identity and culture of buckbreaking iranians and their puppets is still here
Centuries ago the arab khalifs crushed your sasanian grandfathers like cockroaches and now whenever iran tries creating an organization or a movement in the gulf it ends up getting crushed too
>I don't know, maybe this kind of honor and dignity only still exists in Khuzestani Arabs…
Definitely not lol
>So don't go thinking you're talking to someone ignorant.
You are ignorant though
>I know plenty about you, and that's exactly why I'm shocked at how far you've fallen and how spineless you've become.
Living between khuzestani mystery meat doesn't mean you know anything about pure arabs
>And btw, I didn't attack you for no reason.
>You were the one who made a dumbass comment about Iranians first, so I simply had to show you just how stupid you really are.
My original comment about iranians is still true
>Maybe now you'll learn not to run your mouth with every worthless take that pops into your head.
Nope, still haven't convinced me about anything
>Well, finally! Maybe the arabs are starting to wise up a little and realize that some dreams are just too much of a fantasy for them.
The majority of arabs have always hated ba'athism
>Well shit, guess the arabs are still brain-dead.
>No surprise though, they seem perfectly fine getting fucked by Israel while just sitting there like pathetic little cowards, doing absolutely nothing.
The arabs that are getting fucked by israel currently are the ones who still haven't learned to not fuck with them first in a random and idiotic way, which are of course the same retarded iranian puppets (hamas and hezbuallah)
>That's an incredibly gay take.
>You arabs are no different from the UN: completely useless and passive.
>It's honestly ridiculous that this is the kind of response you come back to me with.
Sure, arab leaders are cucked and useless, all leaders of all countries are cucked and useless.
You should keep in my mind that i don't lean to any country or nationalist group and i hate all governments including mine because of religious reasons you're probably too retarded to understand, i should've said this before.
but i would still prefer pseudo-sunnis over iranians and their minions any day
>Yeah, the first part of your post is just you regurgitating my own damn words back at me. Nice job...
I was just showing you that i think that specific part of your post but in a way of showing that it's shameful or something, whatever you wouldn't care
>But moving on:
>You arabs seriously must have some chronic memory loss.
>Wasn't it Iran that sent forces when ISIS was busy raping half of your arab lands? Or did that little fact magically slip your mind too?
Mentioning ISIS and them "busy raping" arab armies is not the own you think it is, ISIS fucked up maliki's regime and alot of iranian-backed nusayris in syria, that's one of the few reasons why i advocate them and support them against all arab regimes
>Let me remind you:
>Groups like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and even a bunch of your so-called "freedom fighters" in Palestine were trained, armed, and backed by Iran.
>Because let's be real, without Iran holding your hand, you guys can't organize shit on your own.
And guess what happens to these groups? They always pathetically lose against kikes and get raped by US airstrikes, because YOU are the ones that can't organize shit and end up embarrassing yourselves
>And this idea that Iran is "afraid" of direct war with Israel?
>That's some next-level delusion.
>Iran would jump at the chance for a ground war, it would steamroll Israel with superior numbers, real soldiers, and actual battlefield grit.
But they do, southren lebanese areas (excluding the borders) are fully safe for iranians most of the time because it's protected by hezbuallatcucks, iran can literally just send their soldiers there using airforce equipments and have a real face to face ground war with israel but they don't because as i said, they're cowards
>It's Israel that's too much of a coward to face Iran...
Both countries are too cowardly to face eachother
>Iran could have treated them like animals...
They kind of already do sadly but not in a direct way
<iran sends guns and rockets to groups in gaza
<these groups start fighting israel with it
<gaza gets destroyed to ashes
<israel wins
<cycle repeats
This is actual animal treatment for palestinian people
>And yeah, I know Iran never really saw you as true allies in the end, because they knew the truth about you, that if you ever got power and stayed in it for a while, you'd drown in your own pride (like what happened to Assad).
C'mon now you know iran doesn't actually care about that, assad has drowned in his own pride since the moment he became president and as a result to that a revolution happened in his country and iran still backed him up

>And yes, Hamas has always had issues with Iran and never really acted like a genuine ally.
>But I'm not sure about that 99%.
>All those videos you see on arab media, are they really made by that 1 percent?
They kind of are made by that 1 percent yeah, (and of course i didn't genuinely mean 99%, just a large majority) keep in mind i was only talking about palestinians
>Because honestly, in most of them, I saw people supporting Iranians...
Opposite for me
>Yeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.
And the other 30% betrayed them? Idk man that sounds like a big enough percent to call you betrayers
>I have never seen a people truly face genocide while other same countries just turn a blind eye...
Well you haven't really seen throughout history then
>A backward arab doesn't get that this is a rhetorical question blah blah blah
Sure but still nope
>That minority who take almost all the money from your country...
Like who?
>I mean the ideals of pan-arabism, sunni ideology, arab spirit and independence, and basically everything that defines a true arab.
What you meant is nonsensical then, "sunni ideology" and pan-arabism don't match with eachother
>>393285
>>and now you think you're really in a good position?
This was a part of your post which i accidentally forgot to quote correctly ignore it
>Iran's got the balls, and damn good ones!
>Iran can just threaten to do something and totally mess with your oil prices, which is the backbone of your economy!
>It easily sends warnings to your arab countries, and you end up shutting down your biggest air routes, clearing the skies for Iran...
All threats and warnings by iran to arab countries are nothingburgers, either not actually doing shit or no type of harm actually serious or relevant enough to cause them to collapse
>And if you think all that was just a staged show, then Iran can make the U.S dance to its tune...
I don't nor do i care about the other things you mentioned about iran-US rivalry, i'm talking about arabs here.
but for a fact the US can wipe the shit out of you guys and you know it
>And if the day comes, Iran will also have the balls to actually close the strait of Hormuz...
I really bet on that
>And idiot! You didn't even get the main point!
I used that scenario to show how easily your country can fall apart, and you're all pure arabs with no foreign-backed opposition.
Even without foreign backed opposition iran still can't take on arab countries alone or have the balls to do so like i said
>Let's change the scenario if you dare:...
Lol what? We're arguing not playing a game you can't just replace the subject of the point you were trying to make like that, i'm not even gonna bother replying to this
>LoL! Your stupid politicians, just to suck up to him, would bend over and fuck him if they had to.
Sure but still don't care what he calls some ocean region by
>Idiot, more Iranians than that one percent rich arab elite live in luxury societies.
Source? Proof? Evidence?
>Btw, I'm a poly-eng student right now...
Doooon't care
>Also, I don't get why you arabs always want to compete and show off?
>Why do you always flaunt things you didn't even work for?
>Why are you so jealous and obsessed with money and luxury?
Everyone likes doing these things, you sound like a broke faggot coping and seething about people who have the capability to own luxurious stuff
>You even show off your dick like you're the only ones who have one! (yeah, you did that dumb shit in this very thread >>393047)!
Persoid sissy whining about his tiny clitty getting mogged by arab cock, sad, many such cases!
>Believe me, showing off your dick and luxury doesn't help you at all.
Never said it does
>Stop this gay ass behavior already
<t. Iranian
Insane levels of irony here (look at picrel)
>Something like the early islamic caliphates or even Assad's current regime had some degree of arab independence...
That shitty regime doesn't even come near islamic caliphates
>Running around in the open is really a stupid move. The chance of getting injured even in these pointless escapes to nowhere is pretty high.
How do you know they're running to nowhere? They're probably just trying to go to a safer place
>Btw, this was one of the videos I saw. There are plenty more that show you really have no clue about war.
I've seen a million videos that came from inside actual warfare, you're not as knowledgeable as you think you are compared to me
>You're complete cowards and don't even consider the fact that Iran could have attacked the american bases inside your territory...
Why would we only consider that? Iran could be attacking anyone
>I mean, do these idiots really think Iran is going to target a shopping mall or something, so they just randomly hit places like that???...
They did in fact target random places while air striking tel aviv, it's normal they would consider iran is doing the same thing while air striking other countries or cities
>I think you should go watch videos of Iranian people during the missile war and compare them to your own.
Not much different
>After all, there's a difference between
Aryans and Semites.
Indeed, aryans are just another random irrelevant race and semites were chosen by god to have all known prophets and religious figures
>I'm glad to see you have some logic, but have you considered that the only arab country that directly fought Iran (and that was when Iran was at its weakest) was Iraq?
Yes and it was a useless war
>No other arab country has had direct conflict with Iran since then.
Why would they?

>If Saudi arabia or any other arab country acted like Saddam, you'd see that arabs wouldn't stand a chance against Iran, especially now that Iran has grown stronger, as you witnessed in the recent war.
Actually the recent war proved the opposite, just compare the casualties of iran to the casualties of israel since june 13 (look at picrel), it's a big embarrassment for iran
>Even though Iran entered your arab airspace, you couldn't do much about it.
The iranian missles that were sent to qatar ended up getting destroyed by air defense systems before reaching the targets, that's enough to be much of a doing about it
>I wish you had at least posted pictures of some of the poor neighborhoods in southern Tehran. As they say: "از این همه پیامبر، جرجیس را انتخاب کردید!" LoL!
"All of these prophets, chose george"
Wtf does this even mean? Is it some kind of unfunny iranian inside joke?
>The photo you sent is actually a part of the native and local areas of Mashhad (right near the shrine), which have all been endowed in the past.
Good for you guys ig but i still have other examples of slum shitholes in modren iran
>Even though the land there is very expensive, the local owners prefer to keep its poor-looking, non-materialistic appearance, something that's probably beyond the comprehension of you luxury-obsessed arabs.
So you people love to see your shitholes still looking like shitholes instead of improving it? Yikes, so backward, so primitive
>And again, you're doing the whole "one-upmanship" thing?
I'm just showing you how terrible the architecture of your people is before thinking you're that developed, that's it really
>I can also show photos of your poor neighborhoods (which happen to be quite numerous)!
>https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2019/12/23/vision-2030-and-poverty-in-saudi-arabia
These neighborhoods are called "العشوائيات", they're usually found in the western parts of the country where it's filled with non-arabs and it's already getting removed anyway lol, what a failure of an attempt to make a similar counter-argument
>And don't think slums or poor areas are anything unusual in the world.
I never thought that
>Why are you so obsessed with showing off luxury? Is it some kind of mental illness?
Why are you so obsessed with hating luxury? Is it some kind of iranian inferiority complex?
>Idiot! How the hell would something like Aramco(or better yet, "Americamco") survive without the U.S?
You do realize there are alot of foreign countries that participate in aramco other than america, right retard?
>Or let's forget that sanction scenario I mentioned earlier, if, hypothetically, the Americans just left your country and cut ties but didn't sanction you, could you honestly say you'd stay stable??!
Yes.
>Bilakh!
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>>He has a genetic connection with the jews and, like them, is semitic.
Most modren jews (israelis) barely have any semitic blood
>>He's more money-hungry like the jews
Everyone is money-hungry in somewhat way, don't lie to yourself
>>He's arrogant like the jews
Yeah because i'm definitely the arrogant one here and not the iranian nationalist who thinks he's better than everyone, fuck off faggot
>>He uses his religion as a tool and changed it, just like the jews
Literally how, elaborate
><But the dumb arab thinks Aryan Iranians are like the jews
You absolutely are
>Bro, with your nonsense, you just shook Cyrus' grave on vibrate mode!
Your jokes aren't funny
>I think I get what's really bothering you. You're just a jealous sunni arab.
<point out the similarities between you and kikes
<"YOU'RE JUST A HECKIN JEALOUS ARAB!!!"
Do you even know what jealous means or do you just throw that word around whenever someone disagrees with you
>First of all, please don't start that stupid shia-sunni debate here(others can't understand it here).
Why do you care if others understand what we're talking about? This is a personal conversation between us two
>I'm neither an expert nor do I have the patience to argue with a brain-dead arab like you about it. Just know this: I have watched plenty of debates between shias and sunnis, and in every one of them, sunni arguments never convinced me as much as the shia ones. Also, I read your Sahih al-bukhari, a book full of drama, contradictions, and stories so unrealistic it turns into a comedy! Honestly, if you sold it as a comedy book, it would probably sell better.
I don't give a single fuck about what some polytheist on mlpol thinks about my religious beliefs, but go on
>And about "Greater Israel" and all that, why does that remind me of someone else... Ah! You arabs! You who attacked other nations with Trojan-horse islam and still keep doing it, you behave exactly like the jews, only they're a bit smarter at it than you are.
Islamic arab conquests were based, freed the middle east from false religions, and actually did happen, the idea of "greater israel" isn't based, believes in the implementing of an expanding of a state based on a false religion, and most likely would never happen because of how much of a non-realistic concept it is, there is absolutely no connection between those two.
>And about Iran, yes! The Persian empire and greater Iran are nothing bad. Unlike pan-arabism and greater Israel fantasies, greater Iran really existed and isn't just some sweet dream.
Your pagan empire was wiped off the map by arabs 1400 years ago, you should probably worry more about zog missles hitting your home for now instead of hyperfixating about an extinct empire
>Iran was great in history, and greater Iran is forming right now, not just under this regime but by the Iranians themselves. Even if the regime changes, the army and irgc won't just vanish overnight. (Of course, this war delayed the regime's fall by a few years.)
And greater iran is forming right now??? Holy shit please tell me you're just pretending retarded ironically, You can't be this delusional, your puppet state in syria got overthrown last year and you just embarrassed yourself in this recent war

-if anything iran's regime is getting closer to it's end
>That's exactly what you sunni arabs are worried about, because to build your own Islamic empire, you need Iran! Without Iran, you're stuck where you are.
Just a correction: *to build your own islamic empire, you need to condemn iran, with iran, your situation gets worse*
Iran stepping into arab problems always resulted nothing but iran wasting their money on military back-up just for their side to lose
>I have seen how hard you arabs try to tie this to Iranians being shia and say that if Iranians accepted sunni thought and joined the "Ummah", they would advance. Meanwhile, they're advancing anyway...
Advancing in failures maybe
>(you saw how different Iran is now compared to the Iran-Iraq war era)
Iraq successfully did a counter a offensive by the end of that war so idk what the goal you're trying to accomplish by mentioning it over and over again as if it's something to be proud of
>But you want to pull Iranians to your side so you can advance. Dream on!
Good, we don't need you
>Also, sunni worldview and their belief in the Messiah is more like the jews, while shias think more like christians. Islam came after christianity, so logically sunni beliefs should be closer to christianity than judaism, but clearly, you sunnis behave more like jews ideologically and worldview-wise, unlike the shias.
Judaism also came before christcuckoldy retard, what's your point?
>Could it mean sunni islam has gone astray and degenerated by jews? Just a theory...
A false theory yes
>And finally, you idiot! Why do you think just because Iranians and jews both seek glory...
The similarities between iranians and jews (which i already mentioned) have nothing to do with glory, it's disgraceful
>You sound a lot like a kike.
Projection
Well, when people hate you, and even after they get to know you, they still hate you (most hatred usually comes from ignorance) that kind of shows the problem is actually you.
People hate me because i'm right, they're the ignorants
>Look in the mirror and ask yourself: why?
Ask yourself why god chose you to be born as disgusting subhumanish filth
Yeah, yeah! Surely you're absolutely fucking right!
The so-called "Golden Age of Islam" wasn't basically one of those hellholes built by Iranians, and arabs? Yeah, they definitely don't want to stick themselves to that story or steal the credit! (Bilakh!)
The golden age of islam was built by all various races of sunni muslims
>And when your ancestors invaded Iran, they sure didn't see the Persian paradises (the famous Persian gardens, aka Iranian hellholes) and say, "Hey, these gardens must be the paradise promised in the Quran!" (And of course, those hellholes weren't beautiful at all, not to the extent that their Persian name "Paradis" ended up becoming the very word for paradises in so many languages!)
All this just for modren iran to be filled with ugly slums kek
>Almost all your arab regimes in past hadn't Iranian ministers and politicians controlling you, and you weren't actually living in the hellholes the Iranians made for you!
Yes, indeed almost all arab regimes in the past never had iranian ministers or politicians controlling the country and iranians didn't make our countries for us
>Let me give you a personal example for now:
>When we went to visit, we were surprised to see a lot of arabs in the waiting rooms and treatment wards! After talking to them, it turned out many arabs travel to Iran for cheaper and better healthcare services...
Wow arabs arabs from poor countries come to foreign countries for better services, who could've guessed Let me tell you something, i once were at saudi hospitals and just like you, i've seen alot of foreignes, but i don't bring that information up randomly and use it as a way to cope with the fact that i live in a hellhole, cheap and proper quality healthcare isn't special, even cuba has that, anyway, moving on
><Becoming an American colony,
And of course by "american colony" you mean not cucking themselves out for iran
>building a few more damn palaces for the rich,
The rich build palaces for themselves
>filling the country with whores and bitches,
Your women dream they can even be nearly as modest as ours
>killing migrant workers for a ridiculous project like NEOM
Of course the persoid feels bad for his jeet brothers who die working for their arab masters
>(which despite having astronomical budgets and no sanctions, isn’t progressing as planned),
Yeah mbs is slow at doing stuff, but it will happen, TRVST THE PLAN
>being unable to eradicate poverty and organized class disparity
Don't pretend like your shithole can do that either
>exploiting your own compatriots in the worst possible ways
Saudi arabia is serving it's compatriots best than anyone right now
>(something we wouldn't even do to our enemies)
Funny because you even do it to your own allies
>and failing to hide all your actions (like Khashoggi),
Khashoggi deserved it and we're not trying to "hide" his case we just don't care
>financially supporting terrorist groups and suffering
Literally never happened ever
>losses from them yourselves, and so on...
Losses from what???
>Yes, surely we Iranians cannot perform this much stupidity and passivity all at once...
You guys mastered it
>Ha! And then your own governments were controlled and eventually overthrown by Iranians!
What governments?
>In fact, you pointed your dick at Iran, but Iran shackled that ugly dick of yours and tamed and controlled you.
We pointed our dick at iran and they sucked it
>The fact that you think you raped shows how empty and useless your mind really is.
Cope, we raped the sasanians and we will do it again with modren iranians
Anyway, i only qouted necessary stuff to be responded to, that's all

>>393333
Again, qouting mistakes
Whatever, to the guy i was replying to if you're reading this just take it as an alarm and try noticing the qouting mistakes and not confuse it with my actual words

>>393331
>>393332
>>393333
god , you have to be one of the most unemployed people i ever seen
and your finger must hurt rn
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anyway , that is pic is from turkish qaznavian era
and yes turks were faggot and kinda still are

>>393335
It is? Okay i don't care i have other examples of persian faggotry anyway

>>393336
brother , seriously stop with the keyboard warrior bullshitism
also who cares?????
I don't like faggots but i definitely hate child marrying pedo (you)
i do believe that is worse

>>393337
Fuck off you don't tell me what i should do on the internet
Also if you hate child marriage you're a brainwashed npc unironically

>>393337
Anon, you're doing yourself by arguing with "SandAryan"

>>393338
>you don't tell me what i should do on the internet
i am just saying that it is embarrassing and sad (it does not comes from racism , you are just making a fool out of yourself)
>Also if you hate child marriage you're a brainwashed npc unironically
this post is approved by Diddy and Drake

The entire stretch of land between egypt and india is just full of crazies, I guess.

>>393340
It's not sad or embarrassing it's just a casual imageboard conversation, if that amount of words is too much for your braindead ass to comprehend then go back to tiktok or something

>>393339
>you're a hypocrite
i know , i know...(sigh)... FUCK!
>>393342
this is my theory:
1) during cold war USA needed islamic irrationals to get in power in middle east because of communism growth
commies are against religions so it would be natural for islamist to not accept them
that is why governments in iran and afghanistan suddenly changed
first thing iran did after islami revolution was to mass execute commies and marxist in iran.
also islamic radicals help to make oil countries to be always chaotic or atleast the whole middle east
cause oil countries can become rich super fast
2) about israel
i think israel created to be the first defense system for europe
after it existence , ,they fastly give it atomic bombs and advance warfare
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>The entire stretch of land between egypt and india is just full of crazies
anyway , you saying that with a us flag while not realizing that USA always was involved in a war from the very beginning
war with native americans
American revolution/Patriotic wars
Civil war
WW1 and WW2
Cold war (vietnam and cuba)
iraq and afghanistan
(waiting for more sequels)
i don't think anyone in this planet is sane
>>393343
no u

>>393344

(1)
Sorta close.The Iranian Islamic Revolution happened in 1979 because theShah of Iran (propped up by America) took a trip and his government was overthrown on his absence. American hostages were seized and held for over a year to prevent the USA from taking military action.

Afghanistan went down the way it did because the USSR invaded Afghanistan, and certain elements in the United States saw a chance to give the Russians a black eye by supplying them with advanced weaponry and training. Then when Russia finally got sick of wasting blood and treasure and left Afghanistan, the Mujahideen freedom fighters said, "Hey thanks America, we could not have done it without you. How about helping us rebuild, the country's kind of a mess after all that," and the American government just laughed and turned off the money hose. SO radical elements took over and became the Taliban, and the Mujahideen became the core of Al Qaeda.

We create our own demons. This is why identity politics are the worst, they lead to (proxy) wars of ideology with no thought given to consequences.

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Israel. Don't look at us, the UK created that mess in 1947. America just supported it because "muh Judeo-Christian friendship" (there are still more Jews in America than there are in Israel). You can thank Donald Reagan and the so-called "moral majority" for fanning those flames in the 1980s. Yet again, identity and ideology lead to drama and devastation.

>>393345
<exaclty thanks for understanding
i think nowadays that the same strategy does not needed anymore
most arab countries at least the big ones developed friendship with america (mostly after "arabian spring")
i guess ameica is tired of islami terrorists
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about israel , i think they - specially nethanyahoo's zahoonist party- do need a fake ass big bad bully count dracula to terrorize their citizen , they don't want to get rid of khamenei yet , if it disapears israelis have no reason to vote for him anymore
Islamic republic scared the whole arabic countries in the way that most of them sided with israel
>UK did it
yeah i think US needs to stop listening to UK's plan
side note:
i don't know if it is true or not but
i heard that in UK's blue book - a book about what britz did in WW2
they unironically aided natzi germany in believe that they will stop USSR from growing in Europe
...well we saw how that bite them in the ass later

>>393347
>they unironically aided natzi germany in believe that they will stop USSR from growing in Europe
Yes, this was how the policy of "appeasement" got started. The thinking was, "If we just let Hitler do his thing for a while he'll be satisfied and his little empire will be a good buffer against Bolshevism".
Of course, classic hubris, Hitler decides it's not enough and he needs more resources (especially petroleum) to keep up his blitzkrieg, so he invaded everyone in Europe.
The United States probably would not have even gotten involved in WWII, but then Pearl Harbor happened (basically just Japan saying, "The Western Pacific is our turf, stay out of it and sell us oil") and lo and behold, a country that was born in war and defines its history by warfare suddenly got war fever and the shit hit the fan.

America was aggressively uninterested in what was going on in the Middle East, so long as the oil kept flowing. But then OPEC decided to throw its weight around in 1973 (The Arab Oil Embargo) which taught America how vulnerable its economy was to resource manipulation, and so the U.S. government got a lot more interested in meddling in the Middle East after that.

>>393349
Ironically the aftermath of WWII led to an expansion of Bolshevism (the Iron Curtain), so yeah, that worked out really well, didn't it.

>>393349
yeah!
other than what you mentioned
hitler was a ww1 vet who came back to his country and when he was what they did to his his country (harsh dept and sanctions and military restrictment) angered him so much , so no matter what happens he would take revenge from europe
so helping him never was a good idea for the west of europe
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Anyway talking about fuhrer
i found this video two weeks ago about translating
HOLY SHIT how right he was and how his prophecy about jews came true
[YouTube] AI RECONSTRUCTS HITLER'S SPEECH TO ENGLISH (Extended) [Embed]

>>393351
Yep, he definitely had a major grudge against western Europe for WWI, especially France and England. That's why when France surrendered in 1940, he forced them to sign the instrument of armistice in the same railway car that the allies made Germany sign the Armistice of 1918 in. He had a real hateboner for France.

>>393352
damn i wished that he also ordered to change the french language and their accent as well , that would be better than curing cancer
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also i wish that japan would not be an idiot to attack USA
if US never got involved , germany might have won in Europe

>>393353
The USA was bound to get involved eventually, isolationist sentiments notwithstanding, as America was one of the allies that defeated Germany in WWI, so the United States was also on HItler's Revenge List for sure.

>>393351
I gotta admit, though, it's tough to take that video seriously when the AI translation sounds like a monumentally pissed-off Eric Idle, and the subtitles have errors in them.

>>393355
i mean still it is kinda cool to hear his voice in english
I guess i just wait till AI gets even better at it
also it is good that now average normie can hear his preaches
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No one ever called him a liar once
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Anyway i need sleep and i won't bother you no more Anon
stay safe and take care , i wish luck and peace upon everyone here

>>393326
Bibi has quite the leverage over Trump, apparently.
>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyxg272nlyo

>>393358
Maybe, but wouldn't we already be at war with Iran if that were the case?

>>393359
I think Trump is anxious to avoid being mired in another Middle East conflict with no exit plan, particularly since that was a big campaign promise for him. But to be telling Israel's government that they should drop the Netanyahu corruption prosecution? Seriously? What next, he's going to call upon the ICC to rescind its arrest warrant for Netanyahu as well?

>>393338
A sane person I see.

>>393289
>I’m not a military expert, but I'm curious: if Iran were to decide to close the strait of Hormuz, how exactly would it go about doing it?
>Would it be done selectively? For example, would chinese ships be allowed to pass?
Iran has strongest naval denial capabilities in region, but actually any nation in region has this capabilities from now. Major threat for tankers is subsurface kamikaze-drones and miners. Cheap and easy to replace, hard to detect, hard to stop, need expensive and long-building infrastructure to protect route against them. Ukrainians uses Starlink to control them, but underwater drones can be autonomous (ship classification is trivial) or controlled by fiber optic cord. We started to use naval convoys for tankers in Black Sea and Baltic because of this threat, but tankers still extremely vulnerable. They are not attacked daily just because of agreement.

United States, China and Iran has similar kind of agreement for a many decades. Do not attack tankers, since any side can do this on major routes. And if faction like ISIS appeared and will try to make funds through piracy and blackmailing of insurance companies, all nations of agreement will erase this bastards together. But currently this agreement much more beneficial for China than for USA. This is why Trump started trade war and trying to take his share of profit through tariffs, but currently USA presence in the Middle East degrading, as well as diplomatic authority and capacity to project force by fleet. If USA leaves bases, China just replaced them. If USA decided to stay there, China may try to attack bases through proxy factions during next steps of escalation. Trump has two choices: change agreement to save at least some part of influence, or unleash major war in region to stop most of oil trade for next decade and hurt enemy more than itself (and he uses this strategy very often in war with globalists). But USA can't stuck in another Gulf war with own forces and can't allow existential threat to Israel at same time. Currently Trump's party trying to change agreement through this strange buffoonery of war. But they are ready to escalation.

I do not think that any selectivity is possible. If Iran close the Strait of Hormuz for unfriendly nations, the EU and US will be furious and just stops all ships by own forces. But USA can't make first step and close strait with own fleet and drones. All Trump's politics about image, he can't threaten chinese tankers directly or bomb american oil kikes property. So, he just provoke Iran, and each following provocation stronger than previous. One of my friends noticed, that for one of Nimitz–class carriers, which directed to Persian Gulf, this is last voyage. They scheduled replacement for 2026 year. Another Liberty-level happening possible.

Maybe China give in and sign new agreement to buy more time. Maybe USA give in and just focus on own problems. But if Trump really has serious situation inside country, then he will use any opportunity to unleash chaos in Persian Gulf and hurt China's major oil route when it still possible. Finally, Iran and Israel have own existential goals.

>I think Iran and china have made some plans for such a scenario, but until something actually happens, we can't say anything definitive.
Definitely. Persian Gulf extremely precious for China at least for next 20-30 years. They are trying to replace cars to electric ones, they ramp up their metallurgy only to extract more lithium and rare elements for accumulators and magnets, they cover deserts with solar panels, but oil requirement still overwhelming high. I don't know much about their current strategy. Usually under strong pressure they took a step back on major front, but two steps forward on another one.

>>393284
>Yeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.
I was quite impressed by this, but shamed at same time. When the war started and government decided to draft reservists, most of our opposition just run away in days and breach borders with Georgia and Kazakhstan like stormtroopers. But when economy show growth instead of decline and industrial salaries skyrocketing, they suddenly returned like nothing even happened. I watched in their blogs how they one by one turned to be comical-level vatans and support government louder than even most crazy patriots before the war. My faith in opposition saved one woman from liberal party, who works in medical reanimation: she don't leave country during hard days, and still hates regime.

Do you heard about fourth generations of Ibn Khaldun? The oldest, simplest and most precious model of social decline. First generation come from the desert and conquered the city. Second generation build country and expand borders. Third generation growth cypresses and makes poetry. Forth generation are conquered by barbarians from the desert. I see this cycles everywhere. USSR is perfect example, from first generation of revolutionary militants to soldiers and engineers, who rebuild country after war, then generation of scientists and lost egoistic generation of national disaster. And from 1990s another cycle again.

Looks like Iran was attacked, when second generation of soldiers transfer authority to third generation of liberals. Psychological part of this attack could be much devastating for fourth generation, but kikes clearly can't wait 25 years more. Unfortunately your rich neighbors along the Persian Gulf don't know experience of existential war for a long time. Your northern neighbors, like Azerbaijan, follows current Russian expansionism cycle and Iraq just pass his revolutionary ISIS moment. I think, Iraqi is your natural allies in the following war.

>>393285
>Meanwhile, Iran has been under harsh sanctions for decades, with separatist groups supported by foreigners and a diverse ethnic makeup, yet it hasn't broken apart!
>You? No way! No other country could handle what Iran has and not break apart!
Because Iran has imperial spirit. More than nation, more than tribe, but order and spiritual kin. I always laugh at 4chan anons, who dreams about etnostate. The strength of true nation is not separation, but will to guide others forward.

>>393296
It's quite sad, that Russia don't have political culture of protests like Iran or France. As northern nation we mostly more hierarchical, calculating and autistic than southern tribes and because of this any protests usually means serious level of insurgency. But people don't have ways to shed frustration, except internet. And It is difficult to blame opposition, when they don't fell connections with course and decisions of government. During USSR period we had soviet and national organizations with real authority, but they turned to be vulnerable to diasporas and external influence, especially in modern world.

Thanks to war connections between nation and government slowly restored. It's hard not to admit right course, if Europe and USA directly fought against us. On the other hand, it is like narcotic for government. Hard to stop, when deep social problems can be fixed just by price of 6% GDP and some dead provincials.

>>393325
>you are defending iran in a 4chan based site
>by shit posting about israel
>THAT IS NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING!! not for iran not against israel
Actually Iran has more influence in the western media than many of European countries. I like to use 4chan for this kind of lazy-tuned research and results was interesting sometimes. For example very strong and independent country Indonesia looks like black hole from 4chan perspective, but Iran was stable mentioned in a lot of conversations. Context doesn't matter, any kind of fame can be useful (our clownworld politics like Trump demonstrated it again and again). Indonesian voice at the world arena 15 times lover than Iranian one.

So, from this perspective you are voluntarily or not defending Iran too.

>>393349
>The United States probably would not have even gotten involved in WWII, but then Pearl Harbor happened (basically just Japan saying, "The Western Pacific is our turf, stay out of it and sell us oil") and lo and behold, a country that was born in war and defines its history by warfare suddenly got war fever and the shit hit the fan.
Pearl Harbor was inevitable when USA close oil import to Japan. They can't even maintain campaign in China with their own oil production, so their attempt to seize Indonesian oil was predictable. But I think USA did not expect so impudent attack.

Reminds current situation a little.

>>393370
The United States knew something was up, because there were diplomatic negotiations underway in Washington, which in a case of spectacularly poor timing, the last communication from Tokyo arrived after the attack was already underway. Communications in 1941 were not as instantaneous as they are today, so the Japanese probably hoped that it would take longer for news of the raid to reach Washington.
It is of course because of scaremongering yellow press cartoons like that that Executive Order 9066 was issued, resulting in the forcible internment of 120,000 Japanese American citizens in concentration camps.

>>393366
I was not in possession of that version, thanks.

Exhibit B.

Sites targeted by Iran.
>According to various Israeli media reports, damage spanned residential buildings, scientific infrastructure (e.g., labs at the Weizmann Institute in Rehovot), the Israeli Defense Ministry complex, and commercial hubs like the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. Iran also struck a military target near the Soroka Medical Center in Be’er Sheva. The medical center was hit by the blast wave, which caused extensive structural damage, a chemical leak, and dozens of injuries. The Israeli press claimed this was a direct strike on Soroka, but the fact that no one was killed undermines that claim.
>Iran also struck the following residential areas, reportedly targeting Israeli military and intelligence officials:
>- Bat Yam: 9 killed, ~200 wounded; high-rise apartments destroyed.
>- Ramat Gan: Nine buildings destroyed, hundreds displaced.
>- Haifa and Tel Aviv: Strikes near military HQs (“Kirya”) and civilian neighborhoods.

>>393365
no what i meant was that , it would not help iran in any shape or form
reality is that the nationalism of the other guy kinda blinded him to accept iran lost with the most casualty and damages
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iran is like that 1st grader who wants to mess with those 6th grader bullies
of course he will lose
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other than that , i see it as siding with a government that i hate , iran's islamic government is a total imbecile whom only has power against its people and for waste majority of it's existence oppressed us with the excuse that they are helping gaza and islam against israel
which always was a lie
they never harmed anyone other than iranians