/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>393194
>Kabuki Theater
Well, the theory that they are ALL playing in the same team and performing a show for the masses is getting more real.

>>393187
Silly???
You are the sillies to think this way. What exactly have the arabs known for decades?! You don't even know yourselves!
In the six-day War, almost all of you arabs were defeated by Israel, with your ridiculous pan-arabist spirit! What happened? Why is that spirit gone? Why don't you support the palestinian arabs anymore? Why does Iran, a non-arab country, support them more than you arabs do? (Of course, if you think Iran supports palestine solely out of compassion, you are seriously mistaken! Palestine is a pawn and a pretext for Iran's influence, but I cannot ignore that fortunately(or unfortunately) we have been a compassionate people even for you fools.)
So what happened that in your arab culture you betray each other so easily?! Don't tell me you want to say palestine is no longer arab? Or maybe your arab sheikhs have gotten so fat from oil money that they prefer to abandon their ideals?
You arabs know (I don't think you're so foolish as to not understand this simple point), but you even betray your own ideals, and you know it. Yet you try to fool yourselves into thinking that this is better and smarter! Yes, for now your countries are not collapsing because you are getting fat off oil money. But suppose, for example, Iran closes the strait of Hormuz for a month, your sheikhs would go crazy! You would tear each other apart! Every tribe and faction would divide your countries because your money would be running out!
And now you think you're really in a good position? You have officially become America's colony! Even with all those big and lucrative deals, you couldn't convince Trump to call the Persian Gulf the "Fucking Arabian Gulf." You have been literally fucked by American bases and companies, but you prefer to live in your fragile palaces. Arab independence has been dead for a long time. Just last night it was proven that you arabs only need to see a few missiles in the sky and, like your semitic cousins, you scream and run away! (Watch the video, idiot!) Even Sadam and the Iraqis(who, because of their relative closeness to Iranians, have somewhat more dignity than the rest of you arabs) couldn't defeat the Iranians, who had just changed government and were mired in internal conflicts and sanctions, despite all foreign support. In the end, this symbol of your pan-arabism fucked his own people more than anyone else and was fucked himself.
Your regime is just a picture of money, behind which structural corruption, a class system, and poverty exist that you cannot properly cover up.
And the moment you become useless to America, you will easily be discarded and perish with your arrogant stupidity.
And by the way, Iran and Israel allies??! You're really an idiot!
Iran, throughout almost its entire history, has never had a serious relationship with the jews. We freed them, and in return, they celebrate Purim (although the book of Esther is easily found to have historical inaccuracies and is unreliable, but the important thing is that your semitic cousins still celebrate Purim and believe in it). Even many Iranian opposition groups have problems with jews (I will talk about Iranian opposition in the future). Even that fool (Reza Pahlavi 2) tries to have relations with Israel simply because it is the enemy of his enemy. Even his father opposed Israel and only due to American pressure was forced to have relations with it, which was one of the reasons for the revolution against him. The word "Jew"(یهودی) in Iranian culture has always had a negative connotation, and the regime had to eventually replace it with the word "Kalimi" (کلیمی) so people would have less negative attitudes toward the few jews in Iran. In reality, Iran has never been allied with Israel, being allied with Israel is meaningless because they are people who always look down on others, and this is incompatible with the Iranian spirit that refuses to compromise with them.
Now you try to justify that by opposing Israel, the regime gave Israel an excuse for more infiltration and war. You arabs always want to find a reason, even if you have to pull it out of your ass! If Iran cooperated, you would say Iran helps Israel, so they are allies. If Iran stayed neutral, you would say Iran indirectly supports Israel willingly. If Iran opposes, you say Iran gives Israel an excuse, so they are allies. In every case, you say your ridiculous nonsense. But have you ever looked at yourselves??! You have officially become Israel's servants, trampled on your ideals, and even betrayed your own sects (and even abandoned your sunni ideology!). You pretend to oppose Israel, but you maintain relations with it and empower it, and when Iran attacks Israel, you shut up because you are cowards! In the end, Israel with its "fucking greater Israel" dream invades half of your arab lands and you do nothing.
Of course, if you think Iranians do not know you arabs, you are seriously mistaken, fools!
Almost all Iranians hate you arabs (they have no problem with the Arabs of Khuzestan, because they are honorable Iranians who stood against your pan-arabism in the Iran-Iraq war), and know that you are slaves to money and pleasure!
There is a story that says a jew, an Iranian, and an arab are given money. The Iranian uses the money to make weapons and armor and strengthen his city. The jew uses the money to expand his trade and make more money. And the arab uses the money to buy goods from the jew and lives in the Iranian city, pays taxes to him, and wastes all his time on pleasure and laziness.
Yes, this is your essence! That's why when Iran's oil was priced in triple digits and it sold a lot, it used that money to strengthen other industries and advance its existence, like this nuclear thing (although I will later talk about some mistakes and my views on alternatives), but you arabs, instead of developing your real infrastructure, are only focused on appearances. In the end, your oil will run out and you will be overthrown.

>>393188
Sorry, but you remind me of those dinosaurs who looked up at the sky and said how beautiful that meteor was.
Just because Trump acts, doesn't mean his intentions are truly what they seem. Even right now, if peace happens, Israel has more than enough excuses to bleed you Americans dry for "damages", and then prepare for the next attack and the next round of expenses, on your dime.
The survival of Israel is actually against your own interests.
Just saying…

>>393189
Thanks, anon.
And I'm happy you didn't take it serious, These are just some argument and explaining some obvious points to the other side.

>>393191
What you're saying makes sense, but I'll say it again, I don't think Iran will accept. Though, it depends.

>>393192
>>393194
>>393195
Yes, as I said, I expected the war between Iran and the U.S to be mostly theatrical. Even Israel didn't expect that. But Trump has gotten too caught up in the show. Talking about peace was way too early.

>>393197
>Just because Trump acts, doesn't mean his intentions are truly what they seem.
I don't care about intentions. I just don't want to get dragged into any more wars. I don't care if he looks obnoxious and retarded, so long as it ends here.
>Even right now, if peace happens, Israel has more than enough excuses to bleed you Americans dry for "damages", and then prepare for the next attack and the next round of expenses, on your dime.
They would do that no matter what the circumstances.
>The survival of Israel is actually against your own interests.
I know that. I hope they all die.

>>393201
Well yes, I'm definitely glad that at least I'm not going to fight people who themselves don't believe in this war. But at the same time, I know that in the end, Trump won't act in your favor. This is probably just to please some MAGA supporters before he wants to use them again. What matters is the outcome, and I don't think it will be a good one... But in any case, let's hope this conflict stays between the jews and the Iranians. Personally, I prefer no other country gets involved in my war.

>>393196
Thanks anon, I learned more about Iran from your posts than from hours of lectures.

>>393194
Sad story, actually. One of my friends and poner, who scanned and translated rare military manuals for me was killed on the opposite side. And another one run from Ukraine to Israel before war. Pint of Jewish blood and providence saved him at that time, but no one know for how long. This spiral of escalation dragged us too low and no one ready to stop, or at least show some mercy to enemy, since each side already spend too much efforts to victory in this war. And this is mostly Russian fault, because of our initial arrogance and still lasting disrespect.

>>393201
>I hope they all die.
I'm not. Despite my personal attitude, I was worried about Jewish future. I know, they deserve no more mercy that they show to Palestinians, but Putin was right when he called Israel Russian-speaking country. And now they are hated everywhere on the world, even Americans almost ready to gas another 6 million kikes. And even in this situation they don't show any nobility, just more arrogance. Ending is predictable, but still sad.

At least, it will be hilarious, when our media kikes who run to Israel from the prison-of-nations will be forced to run back to our patient and merciful Jew-loving fuhrer.

>>393205
Good to hear that, anon. As I said, I'll talk more about Iran in the future days. I think it may help you, or anyone else want to know about it. I haven't said about a lot of things, yet.

>>393205
>I was worried about Jewish future.
Me too. There is a very probable chance some of them will escape execution and survive.
F

Surprised London hasn't torn itself apart yet tbh.

>>393208
It will, just be patient.

>>393196
The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture, methodology and can rant about it for you for hours, and some people are just whiney peckeys who want to find negatives in arabs like (You)
>In the six-day War, almost all of you arabs were defeated by Israel, with your ridiculous pan-arabist spirit! What happened? Why is that spirit gone?
Because pan-arabism is a dead retarded ideology, arab leaders have learned to not fuck with israel a long time ago
>Why don't you support the palestinian arabs anymore?
We literally do though? We send them humanitarian aid all the time
>Why does Iran, a non-arab country, support them more than you arabs do?
Iran sees palestine as nothing but a tool that serves their interests, if they really care for palestine then they would've already sent their own forces to die and fight for palestinian soil but they didn't, all they can do is give their puppet militants in foreign countries some guns and rockets because they're cowards who are afraid of having a real face to face ground war with israel
>(Of course, if you think Iran supports palestine solely out of compassion,
Well yeah i just explained that
>you are seriously mistaken! Palestine is a pawn and a pretext for Iran's influence, but I cannot ignore that fortunately(or unfortunately) we have been a compassionate people even for you fools.)
Lol no, literally ask any palestinian about iran and 99% of the time they would say negative things about it because they realize that as i said, iran sees them as nothing but a tool and not a "pretext" or an ally
>So what happened that in your arab culture you betray each other so easily?!
Betrayals happened easily in all parts and cultures of the world
>Don't tell me you want to say palestine is no longer arab?
Nope
>Or maybe your arab sheikhs have gotten so fat from oil money that they prefer to abandon their ideals?
What sheikhs?
>You arabs know (I don't think you're so foolish as to not understand this simple point), but you even betray your own ideals, and you know it. Yet you try to fool yourselves into thinking that this is better and smarter!
What are you exactly referring by "your own ideals" here? Do you basically other arabs in general, or arabs who share the same political positions and ideologies?
>Yes, for now your countries are not collapsing because you are getting fat off oil money. But suppose, for example, Iran closes the strait of Hormuz for a month, your sheikhs would go crazy! You would tear each other apart! Every tribe and faction would divide your countries because your money would be running out!
And now you think you're really in a good position?
This argument doesn't matter because you're using a non realistic example, iran doesn't have the balls to do that
>You have officially become America's colony! Even with all those big and lucrative deals, you couldn't convince Trump to call the Persian Gulf the "Fucking Arabian Gulf."
No arab cares about what that orange retard calls stuff by
>You have been literally fucked by American bases and companies, but you prefer to live in your fragile palaces.
This reeks of envy, you're just seething because some arabs live between luxurious societies while you live in the slums of tehran lmfao
>Arab independence has been dead for a long time.
Unfortunately if i'm gonna be completely honest it was never alive
>Just last night it was proven that you arabs only need to see a few missiles in the sky and, like your semitic cousins, you scream and run away! (Watch the video, idiot!)
How else do you want them to react to missles flying over them?
>Even Sadam and the Iraqis(who, because of their relative closeness to Iranians, have somewhat more dignity than the rest of you arabs) couldn't defeat the Iranians who had just changed government and were mired in internal conflicts and sanctions, despite all foreign support. In the end, this symbol of your pan-arabism fucked his own people more than anyone else and was fucked himself.
This is pretty much the only thing i might agree with you on, ba'athism has been only bringing arabs downhill
>Your regime is just a picture of money, behind which structural corruption, a class system, and poverty exist that you cannot properly cover up.
This is pretty ironic said by an iranian, just take a glance at your shithole (picrel)

>>393196
>And the moment you become useless to America, you will easily be discarded and perish with your arrogant stupidity.
Nigga fuck amerimutts we don't need them to have stable countries
>And by the way, Iran and Israel allies??! You're really an idiot!
>Iran, throughout almost its entire history, has never had a serious relationship with the jews. We freed them, and in return, they celebrate Purim (although the book of Esther is easily found to have historical inaccuracies and is unreliable, but the important thing is that your semitic cousins still celebrate Purim and believe in it). Even many Iranian opposition groups have problems with jews (I will talk about Iranian opposition in the future). Even that fool (Reza Pahlavi 2) tries to have relations with Israel simply because it is the enemy of his enemy. Even his father opposed Israel and only due to American pressure was forced to have relations with it, which was one of the reasons for the revolution against him. The word "Jew"(یهودی) in Iranian culture >has always had a negative connotation, and the regime had to eventually replace it with the word "Kalimi" (کلیمی) so people would have less negative >attitudes toward the few jews in Iran. In reality, Iran has never been allied with Israel, being allied with Israel is meaningless because they are people who always look down on others, and this is incompatible with the Iranian spirit that refuses to compromise with them.
Now you try to justify that by opposing Israel, the regime gave Israel an excuse for more infiltration and war. You arabs always want to find a reason, even if you have to pull it out of your ass! If Iran cooperated, you would say Iran helps Israel, so they are allies. If Iran stayed neutral, you would say Iran indirectly supports Israel willingly. If Iran opposes, you say Iran gives Israel an excuse, so they are allies. In every case, you say your ridiculous nonsense. But have you ever looked at yourselves??! You have officially become Israel's servants, trampled on your ideals, and even betrayed your own sects (and even abandoned your sunni ideology!). You pretend to oppose Israel, but you maintain relations with it and empower it, and when Iran attacks Israel, you shut up because you are cowards! In the end, Israel with its "fucking greater Israel" dream invades half of your arab lands and you do nothing.
You can flex about iran and persians being le based kike haters as much as you want but the reality is that you and jews are spiritually not only allies but the same people
Jews are the enemies of prophets, iranians (who are mostly shias) are enemies sahaba
Jews want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of greater israel, iranians want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of "islamic" theocracy, and there's alot more similarities but you get my point
>Of course, if you think Iranians do not know you arabs, you are seriously mistaken, fools!
>Almost all Iranians hate you arabs (they have no problem with the Arabs of Khuzestan, because they are honorable Iranians who stood against your pan-arabism in the Iran-Iraq war), and know that you are slaves to money and pleasure!
You know about us so much because you have hatred against us, not the opposite
>There is a story that says a jew, an Iranian, and an arab are given money. The Iranian uses the money to make weapons and armor and strengthen his city. The jew uses the money to expand his trade and make more money. And the arab uses the money to buy goods from the jew and lives in the Iranian city, pays taxes to him, and wastes all his time on pleasure and laziness.
No arabs wants to live in your iranian hellholes
>Yes, this is your essence! That's why when Iran's oil was priced in triple digits and it sold a lot, it used that money to strengthen other industries and advance its existence, like this nuclear thing (although I will later talk about some mistakes and my views on alternatives), but you arabs, instead of developing your real infrastructure, are only focused on appearances.
We develop both of those at the same time actually, something you people are unable to do
>In the end, your oil will run out and you will be overthrown.
Dream about it persoid, even before oil arabs still raped your entire civilization

The previous 2 posts were supposed to be 1 post btw but i had to divide it because mlpol's system is a faggot and can't let that much words be put in 1 post, i really hope this would be fixed

>>393214
>The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture, methodology and can rant about it for you for hours, and some people are just whiney peckeys who want to find negatives in arabs like (You)
This was supposed to be a response to "What exactly have the arabs known for decades?! You don't even know yourselves!" Btw i also forgot to clarify that

“They don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.”
LOL
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/24/israel-iran-war-live-updates-trump-declares-ceasefire-tehran-attack-us-base-qatar

>>393219
well they don't. Both sides are stupid animals.

>>393220
They've hated and warred with each other for literal centuries, millennia even. Each will never accept the fact of the other's existence.

>https://www.npr.org/2025/06/23/nx-s1-5442396/iran-war-trump-power-congress-constitution
Declare war? No.
Make war? Absolutely.
>https://www.axios.com/2025/06/24/trump-impeachment-trump-iran-al-green-democrats
Suck it.

>>393223
Regime change is likely coming to Israel. Netanyahu faces serious legal jeopardy from Israel's Supreme Court, stemming from a long-running prosecution for corruption that was only paused when he became Prime Minister again in 2022. The ongoing hostilities have been in part a delaying action against that prosecution.

>>393224
Along with the judicial reforms in 2023 that triggered widespread protests in Israel.

>>393224
Netanyahu is certainly in hot water, and he's trying to cause wars to distract from his corruption charges, but canning him would not mean regime change for Israel. There is no moderate alternative to Netanyahu's regime.

>>392216
>>393168
Some information about continental supply routes, if Strait of Hormuz will be blocked:
- Iran-China railroad (pic related) -- 10 400 kilometers, 15-20 days, 8.5 million tons per year (100 kg per capita)
- Five Nation Railway corridor (Iran-Afghanistan-China) -- 8000 km, 20-30 days, 6 Mt/year (70 kg per capita)
- Quetta Line + Khunjerab Line (Iran-Pakistan-China) -- ~8000 km, 20-30 days, ??? Mt/year (?? kg per capita)
- North–South Transport Corridor (Iran-Russia) -- 7000 km, 15-24 days, 14-30 Mt/year (150-300 kg per capita)
- Trans-Siberian railroad (North-South --> China) -- 10 000 kilometers, 15-20 days, 160 Mt/year

Overall current state of continental routes worse than I expected. Borderline level, if Iran need not only military supplies, but also some food and industrial goods, tools and parts to repair bombed facilities. Moreover we have problems in Fergana volley and another special military operation possible right next to Iran-China railroad and Turkmenistan-China gas pipeline (we have escalation in Kazakhstan in early 2022, but manage to fix situation quickly and buy some time).

Iranian has about 180 Mt/year oil production and 75 Mt/year oil export (90% to China). Continental routes unsuitable for oil export, moreover oil industry may be bombed with blockade level of escalation. Current China's oil import/consumption is 560/800 million tons, 50% from Persian Gulf. Current China's natural gas import/consumption 180/400 million cubit meters (25-30% from Persian Gulf, 25% from Turkmenistan). China has about 50-100 Mt oil reserve (70-150 days if Strait of Hormuz will be blocked).

Russia has about 520 Mt/year oil production and 240 Mt/year oil export (75% to China). Russia probably can raise production to 10-20%, up to 600 Mt/year during 1-2 years, but overall our oil industry expensive and stagnated. So, only +80 Mt/year possible, which can compensate only 30% of Persian Gulf export. Also China's refineries are build for Persian Gulf oil, they can't refine Russian oil without expensive investments and years to rebuild.

I must say again, the major USA objective is to close Strait of Hormuz by Iranian hands to cripple China's industry. Or just escalate war and bomb all Persian Gulf oil exporters directly. USA don't have any interest in Persian Gulf anymore (they must maintain own oil industry which profitable only with high prices and have plans to take Venezuela as part of their latinos faction unification initiative). Both Saudi Arabia and Iran are just enemy supply line and threat to Israel.

>>393223
>trips off by one but a 32-23 is still interesting
Yeah, a regime change in Israel might be the lasting solution.

>>393231
At least get the Likud party out of power.

Jews are getting desperate and are calling for a false flag terrorist attack to drag America into a war with Iran.

damn I missed you guys
internet was restricted here for 12 days and now mlpol is filtered so now i have to use vpn for connecting here
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anyway lots of shit happened , have to tell all of my western friends in discord that i am alive
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fuck israel and fuck irgc

i was reading the other irani-fag replies.
do not trust this faggot
they are a Irgc propaganda shil and they're here to just spread misinformation and manipulate brains.
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in 12 days i could not connect here (or anywhere) just like most people in my country
but this asshole somehow was able to do so
and he is sucking so much mullah dick rn
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either he has a special net form or he is not even in iran (you can easily download iranian vpn for accessing farsi sites)

>>393248
>fuck israel and fuck irgc
I suspect you must be one of the Russians pointing fingers at. They call you the pro-western 5th column inside Iran.
At your heart, you love the west and despise Iranian culture. This pathological psychology is seen all around the west in the immigrant's mindset. They want access to White People while claiming to love their homeland. Indoors they berate White People, but cry foul if they are removed from living among Whites.
My point... check your loyalties.

anyway tl;dr
there is a cease fire
iran lost many military bases and nuclear sites
1k people are dead and near 13k people are injured
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tbh civilian casualty is pretty low compared to the amount fuckery missiles that IDF shot
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IRGC did not do shit to israel , idc what anyone says.
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irani people are scared and they are full of hatred toward their government , seem like they were happy that israel is punishing iran , can't blame them
personally i don't know how to feel about the war
i can say that two cruel government fought and innocent people died pretty much,
internet is barely coming back
also side note
yesterday was the most horrible day here , so many missile so many sounds so many explosions so many earth quakes (due to explossions)

>>393251
hug
>>393252
neither , i am just a hippy dude who wants to live his life and that is it , which i can't
you don't know what being iranian means
you don't how painful it is that you have to kill every single dreams that you have and give up on the most simplistic rights cause everyone are cruel toward you
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your government is shit , your enemies are shit , your people are depressed and angry, economy is garbage , you don't even have the most casual rights here

>>393254
i am just tired of this planet and it's living beings
and i cannot do anything about it
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maybe i should scratch on the future government in iran or just have to live like a random npc like a normal person would do

>>393248
Hello again!

How horrible! And how tiresome. Every single fucking day I see this kind of jewish bots and double-piggers on 2ch, on livejournal, on telegram, every-fucking-where. Can you put another disc inside? Can you imitate a human being at least? I know, I ask too much from a piece of promt-enginering and mantis-minded-black-box. If you are not human, be aware, we will kill your masters to make internet free again. But I hope, I want to believe that it is with 0.1% chance may be a human. Please, forgive me, If I was mistaken. I regret when war hurt those who do not want to be part of it.

>>393261
The internet is a jewish colony you stupid chud, if you hate it here so much then stop using electronic communication devices and go live with some primitive nigger tribes in africa or something

And the drumbeat started almost immediately.
“Hit it again, goy.”

>>393262
>internet is a jewish colony
Not at all, you are a tiny minority and can't colonize shit, only monitor, shut down the conversation flipping the servers' switches or sending the zogbots. Beyond that, you are fighting a lost battle. /pol/ is already mainstream and your survival as a species is in doubt.

>>393262
At least we hunt down zogdogs sometimes, when you just make love with passionate fillies, devour arabic sweets and watch on tv how your brothers struggles against kikes onslaught!

Trump makes announcement after historic B-2 strike mission on Iran.

>>393267
Whereas I prefer to make love with fillies and hunt down zogs

>>393214
>The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture...
Idiot! Who even asked for a lecture on arab culture for you to start copy-pasting the entire arab encyclopedia?!
Let me explain something to you, maybe then you'll actually understand what this is about:
I'm a Lur myself, and I spent the first 13 years of my life in Khuzestan, living among Lurs and Arabs. I've seen Arab culture firsthand, the festivals, the traditions, the community. I know enough about it, and unlike you, I actually respect the Arabs of Khuzestan.
They have real honor, courage, and a warrior spirit, their culture means something.
My whole point is: why don't you arabs know your own identity anymore?
Why have you abandoned your deeper culture in other countries and started acting like losers?
I don't know, maybe this kind of honor and dignity only still exists in Khuzestani Arabs…
because you sure as hell lack it.
So don't go thinking you're talking to someone ignorant.
I know plenty about you, and that's exactly why I'm shocked at how far you've fallen and how spineless you've become.
And btw, I didn't attack you for no reason.
You were the one who made a dumbass comment about Iranians first, so I simply had to show you just how stupid you really are.
Maybe now you'll learn not to run your mouth with every worthless take that pops into your head.
>Because pan-arabism is a dead retarded ideology
Well, finally! Maybe the arabs are starting to wise up a little and realize that some dreams are just too much of a fantasy for them.
>arab leaders have learned to not fuck with israel a long time ago
Well shit, guess the arabs are still brain-dead.
No surprise though, they seem perfectly fine getting fucked by Israel while just sitting there like pathetic little cowards, doing absolutely nothing.
>We literally do though? We send them humanitarian aid all the time
That's an incredibly gay take.
You arabs are no different from the UN: completely useless and passive.
It's honestly ridiculous that this is the kind of response you come back to me with.
>Iran sees palestine as nothing but a tool that serves their interests...
Yeah, the first part of your post is just you regurgitating my own damn words back at me. Nice job...
But moving on:
You arabs seriously must have some chronic memory loss.
Wasn't it Iran that sent forces when ISIS was busy raping half of your arab lands? Or did that little fact magically slip your mind too?
Let me remind you:
Groups like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and even a bunch of your so-called "freedom fighters" in Palestine were trained, armed, and backed by Iran.
Because let's be real, without Iran holding your hand, you guys can't organize shit on your own.
And this idea that Iran is "afraid" of direct war with Israel?
That's some next-level delusion.
Iran would jump at the chance for a ground war, it would steamroll Israel with superior numbers, real soldiers, and actual battlefield grit.
It's Israel that's too much of a coward to face Iran directly, so they go cry to the U.S for help, and even that's just turning into a bigger joke.
>Well yeah i just explained that
Well done smart ass...!
>Lol no, literally ask any palestinian about iran and 99%...
Iran could have treated them like animals very easily, but instead showed them respect. Boomers really feel some kind of sympathy for them.
And yeah, I know Iran never really saw you as true allies in the end, because they knew the truth about you, that if you ever got power and stayed in it for a while, you'd drown in your own pride (like what happened to Assad).
And yes, Hamas has always had issues with Iran and never really acted like a genuine ally.
But I'm not sure about that 99%.
All those videos you see on arab media, are they really made by that 1 percent?
Because honestly, in most of them, I saw people supporting Iranians.
Anyway, you can deny it if you want. I really don't care.
>Betrayals happened easily in all parts and cultures of the world
Yeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.
And throughout history, I have never seen a people truly face genocide while other same countries just turn a blind eye.
That kind of thing seems to be something only you arabs are capable of.
>Nope
A backward arab doesn't get that this is a rhetorical question and doesn't need to answer such a stupid question.
>What sheikhs?
That minority who take almost all the money from your country.(maybe you're one of their son)
>What are you exactly referring by "your own ideals" here? Do you basically other arabs in general, or arabs who share the same political positions and ideologies?
I mean the ideals of pan-arabism, sunni ideology, arab spirit and independence, and basically everything that defines a true arab.

>>393214
>And now you think you're really in a good position?
Yes! I'm sure! Although I oppose the regime for some internal policies, I still like its overall goal.
Besides, you yourself exaggerated in your own text later by saying Iran has imperial ambitions, so please don't ask about something you already know.
What you're saying smells like jealousy.
>This argument doesn't matter because you're using a non realistic example, iran doesn't have the balls to do that
Iran's got the balls, and damn good ones!
Iran can just threaten to do something and totally mess with your oil prices, which is the backbone of your economy!
It easily sends warnings to your arab countries, and you end up shutting down your biggest air routes, clearing the skies for Iran.
Iran had the guts to be the only country to directly attack the U.S after World War II, twice!
And if you think all that was just a staged show, then Iran can make the U.S dance to its tune.
Iran had the balls to strike even after Trump announced otherwise. Iran has the balls to do whatever it wants(nuclear program, missiles program and so on...).
And if the day comes, Iran will also have the balls to actually close the strait of Hormuz.
So please, shut up about this!
And idiot! You didn't even get the main point!
I used that scenario to show how easily your country can fall apart, and you're all pure arabs with no foreign-backed opposition.
Let's change the scenario if you dare: suppose only half of the oil sanctions on Iran are applied to your country for one year, after that year, you would probably face dozens of autonomous regions.
Meanwhile, Iran has been under harsh sanctions for decades, with separatist groups supported by foreigners and a diverse ethnic makeup, yet it hasn't broken apart!
You? No way! No other country could handle what Iran has and not break apart!
>No arab cares about what that orange retard calls stuff by
LoL! Your stupid politicians, just to suck up to him, would bend over and fuck him if they had to.
>This reeks of envy, you're just seething because some arabs live between luxurious societies while you live in the slums of tehran lmfao
Idiot, more Iranians than that one percent rich arab elite live in luxury societies.
Btw, I'm a poly-eng student right now, living in Navab near Enghelab Square in Tehran, and since I only have one exam left, which got postponed because of the war, I have plenty of time to write to you at this hour.
Also, I don't get why you arabs always want to compete and show off?
Why do you always flaunt things you didn't even work for?
Why are you so jealous and obsessed with money and luxury?
You even show off your dick like you're the only ones who have one! (yeah, you did that dumb shit in this very thread >>393047)!
Believe me, showing off your dick and luxury doesn't help you at all.
Stop this gay-ass behavior already...
>Unfortunately if i'm gonna be completely honest it was never alive
Something like the early islamic caliphates or even Assad's current regime had some degree of arab independence, but it's really sad that even you know this and do nothing about it.
>How else do you want them to react to missles flying over them?
Running around in the open is really a stupid move. The chance of getting injured even in these pointless escapes to nowhere is pretty high.
Btw, this was one of the videos I saw. There are plenty more that show you really have no clue about war.
You're complete cowards and don't even consider the fact that Iran could have attacked the american bases inside your territory.
But you run around in your cities like you're right in the middle of those bases!
I mean, do these idiots really think Iran is going to target a shopping mall or something, so they just randomly hit places like that???
You really act like your cousins, maybe even worse.
I think you should go watch videos of Iranian people during the missile war and compare them to your own.
After all, there's a difference between
Aryans and Semites.
>This is pretty much the only thing i might agree with you on, ba'athism has been only bringing arabs downhill
I'm glad to see you have some logic, but have you considered that the only arab country that directly fought Iran (and that was when Iran was at its weakest) was Iraq?
No other arab country has had direct conflict with Iran since then.
If Saudi arabia or any other arab country acted like Saddam, you'd see that arabs wouldn't stand a chance against Iran, especially now that Iran has grown stronger, as you witnessed in the recent war.
Even though Iran entered your arab airspace, you couldn't do much about it.
>This is pretty ironic said by an iranian, just take a glance at your shithole (picrel)
I wish you had at least posted pictures of some of the poor neighborhoods in southern Tehran. As they say: "از این همه پیامبر، جرجیس را انتخاب کردید!" LoL!
The photo you sent is actually a part of the native and local areas of Mashhad (right near the shrine), which have all been endowed in the past. Even though the land there is very expensive, the local owners prefer to keep its poor-looking, non-materialistic appearance, something that's probably beyond the comprehension of you luxury-obsessed arabs.
And again, you're doing the whole "one-upmanship" thing?
I can also show photos of your poor neighborhoods (which happen to be quite numerous)!
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2019/12/23/vision-2030-and-poverty-in-saudi-arabia
And don't think slums or poor areas are anything unusual in the world.
Why are you so obsessed with showing off luxury? Is it some kind of mental illness?
>Nigga fuck amerimutts we don't need them to have stable countries
Idiot! How the hell would something like Aramco(or better yet, "Americamco") survive without the U.S?
Or let's forget that sanction scenario I mentioned earlier, if, hypothetically, the Americans just left your country and cut ties but didn't sanction you, could you honestly say you'd stay stable??!
Bilakh!

>>393214
>You can flex about iran and persians being le based kike haters as much as you want but the reality is that you and jews are spiritually not only allies but the same people
>He has a genetic connection with the jews and, like them, is semitic.
>He's money-hungry like the jews.
>He's arrogant like the jews.
>He uses his religion as a tool and changed it, just like the jews.
<But the dumb arab thinks Aryan Iranians are like the jews.
Bro, with your nonsense, you just shook Cyrus' grave on vibrate mode!
>Jews are the enemies of prophets, iranians (who are mostly shias) are enemies sahaba. Jews want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of greater israel...
I think I get what's really bothering you. You're just a jealous sunni arab.
First of all, please don't start that stupid shia-sunni debate here(others can't understand it here). I'm neither an expert nor do I have the patience to argue with a brain-dead arab like you about it. Just know this: I have watched plenty of debates between shias and sunnis, and in every one of them, sunni arguments never convinced me as much as the shia ones. Also, I read your Sahih al-bukhari, a book full of drama, contradictions, and stories so unrealistic it turns into a comedy! Honestly, if you sold it as a comedy book, it would probably sell better.
And about "Greater Israel" and all that, why does that remind me of someone else... Ah! You arabs! You who attacked other nations with Trojan-horse islam and still keep doing it, you behave exactly like the jews, only they're a bit smarter at it than you are.
And about Iran, yes! The Persian empire and greater Iran are nothing bad. Unlike pan-arabism and greater Israel fantasies, greater Iran really existed and isn't just some sweet dream. Iran was great in history, and greater Iran is forming right now, not just under this regime but by the Iranians themselves. Even if the regime changes, the army and irgc won't just vanish overnight. (Of course, this war delayed the regime's fall by a few years.)
That's exactly what you sunni arabs are worried about, because to build your own Islamic empire, you need Iran! Without Iran, you're stuck where you are. I have seen how hard you arabs try to tie this to Iranians being shia and say that if Iranians accepted sunni thought and joined the "Ummah", they would advance. Meanwhile, they're advancing anyway (you saw how different Iran is now compared to the Iran-Iraq war era). But you want to pull Iranians to your side so you can advance. Dream on!
Also, sunni worldview and their belief in the Messiah is more like the jews, while shias think more like christians. Islam came after christianity, so logically sunni beliefs should be closer to christianity than judaism, but clearly, you sunnis behave more like jews ideologically and worldview-wise, unlike the shias. Could it mean sunni islam has gone astray and degenerated by jews? Just a theory...
And finally, you idiot! Why do you think just because Iranians and jews both seek glory, they are the same? So what, because greece and Persia existed, Iranians are like Greeks or Romans? Keep your ridiculous logic to yourself. Every nation should care about its own greatness. If your semitic cousins show more pride in this regard, then at least on this front, they're better than you arabs in my eyes. If you arabs don't care about your own glory, you have no right to blame others for caring about theirs. You can see the meme! (I don't agree with part of this meme. Israel is way too cowardly to be a chad. If anything, it makes more sense to put the U.S in Israel's place, but the rest of the meme checks out.)
>You know about us so much because you have hatred against us, not the opposite
You sound a lot like a kike.
Well, when people hate you, and even after they get to know you, they still hate you (most hatred usually comes from ignorance), that kind of shows the problem is actually you.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself: why?
(Note: You can use my text as a reference.)
>No arabs wants to live in your iranian hellholes
Yeah, yeah! Surely you're absolutely fucking right!
The so-called "Golden Age of Islam" wasn't basically one of those hellholes built by Iranians, and arabs? Yeah, they definitely don't want to stick themselves to that story or steal the credit! (Bilakh!)
And when your ancestors invaded Iran, they sure didn't see the Persian paradises (the famous Persian gardens, aka Iranian hellholes) and say, "Hey, these gardens must be the paradise promised in the Quran!" (And of course, those hellholes weren't beautiful at all, not to the extent that their Persian name "Paradis" ended up becoming the very word for paradises in so many languages!)
Almost all your arab regimes in past hadn't Iranian ministers and politicians controlling you, and you weren't actually living in the hellholes the Iranians made for you!
Let me give you a personal example for now:
A family friend of mine in Mashhad (yes, that very city you sent a picture of) had a kidney surgery and was hospitalized at Razavi hospital. When we went to visit, we were surprised to see a lot of arabs in the waiting rooms and treatment wards! After talking to them, it turned out many arabs travel to Iran for cheaper and better healthcare services. Even more interesting, many services in that hospital were free or cheap for Iranians and overall it was an affordable hospital (despite being private).
Well, sometimes paradise is just a place where they don't want to empty your pockets and still provide good quality service. Of course, the hellholes we build turn out to be paradise for you! (don't ask)
And btw, this is my own personal experience, there are many other better examples I could give, but I have seen this myself.
So next time you want to spout that nonsense, remember that basically a lot of the things you have today come from those Iranian hellholes in the first place!

>>393214
>We develop both of those at the same time actually, something you people are unable to do
<Becoming an American colony, building a few more damn palaces for the rich, filling the country with whores and bitches, killing migrant workers for a ridiculous project like NEOM(which despite having astronomical budgets and no sanctions, isn’t progressing as planned), being unable to eradicate poverty and organized class disparity, exploiting your own compatriots in the worst possible ways (something we wouldn't even do to our enemies) and failing to hide all your actions (like Khashoggi), financially supporting terrorist groups and suffering losses from them yourselves, and so on...
Yes, surely we Iranians cannot perform this much stupidity and passivity all at once. You truly have a talent for this!
>Dream about it persoid, even before oil arabs still raped your entire civilization
Ha! And then your own governments were controlled and eventually overthrown by Iranians!
In fact, you pointed your dick at Iran, but Iran shackled that ugly dick of yours and tamed and controlled you. The fact that you think you raped shows how empty and useless your mind really is.
>The previous 2 posts were supposed to be 1 post btw but i had to divide it because mlpol's system is a faggot and can't let that much words be put in 1 post, i really hope this would be fixed
I understand, no need to say that. I sent 4 for you!
>>393217
Got it
P.S: Please stop sending nonsense! This is a thread about a war that hasn't yet turned into peace (a ceasefire could be broken at any moment), not a playground for some dumb arab troll who can only spit out useless garbage. If you post about this again, I won't reply, so don't bother.
P.S.2: Guys, please don't reply to his trolling either, every reply you give just makes him more eager to keep trolling.

>>393219
Quite literally, the only one who actually fell for this 4d chess game is Trump himself!
>>393220
So you know, humans are a type of animal too.
But in this conflict, one side consists of animals that want to control all the other animals, and the other side are animals that refuse to be controlled like the rest.
There's nothing stupid about that.
What's truly stupid is believing you can keep both sides together as if that's ever going to work.
>>393221
Well, it's true that this particular enmity has existed for thousands of years, but since the jews have almost never had a proper civilization throughout history, they were never able to pose any real threat to Iran.
Iran only attacks when it's threatened or attacked first.
And with the war that the jews themselves started, they finally gave Iran the opportunity to settle the score.
>>393222
Well, they did the right thing by not impeaching Trump. When you have entered a war, you can't just impeach your country's president and create chaos.
Right now, Trump won't be impeached, but most likely, after this war ends (regardless of the outcome), Trump will probably be impeached.
Of course, that's just my prediction.
>>393223
>>393224
>>393225
>>393226
>Netanyahu will be removed. Another radical will replace him, and this stupid cycle will repeat itself.
That's why I prefer this war to actually lead somewhere, even if it ends in destruction, because otherwise, only the same global decay will remain.
>>393227
In fact, this war itself might be a kind of effort to delay the development of further transportation links between Iran and china. But for now, we don't know what exactly will happen between Iran and china during this ceasefire, before the next round of war begins.
Currently, if the conflict causes damage to oil facilities, china will most likely be forced to enter the war(like the U.S) to secure its own interests, and that would mark the beginning of a much more serious escalation. I don't think the U.S is actually seeking that, but if it does happen, it will ultimately be to everyone's detriment.
I’m not a military expert, but I'm curious: if Iran were to decide to close the strait of Hormuz, how exactly would it go about doing it? Would it be done selectively? For example, would chinese ships be allowed to pass? And what about those few planes that came from china to Iran during the war, what exactly were they carrying? I think Iran and china have made some plans for such a scenario, but until something actually happens, we can't say anything definitive.
>>393231
In that case, it depends on which regime will come next.
>>393232
For example, does it mean the labor party or something like that would roughly take power? Are the angry Israelis in a mood to accept becoming left-wing or centrist?
>>393233
>Meanwhile, Xi Jinping is waiting in his office to hear about the operation.
>>393243
[pic related]
>>393245
>kikes' nature

>>393248
Hi!
>internet was restricted here for 12 days
Bro?? The international internet wasn't even cut off for a full week, how come you didn't have internet for 12 days??!
>now mlpol is filtered so now i have to use vpn for connecting here
Why? I can still connect without a vpn even now, that's strange... but maybe it works now. Probably when you were posting, they hadn't fully and properly restored the internet yet.
>anyway lots of shit happened
I bet you didn't go through as much crap as I did:
First off, I had a bunch of trouble when the war started, I was working on a project that was almost finished, and the guy who was supposed to do the final assembly just disappeared. Took me two whole days to track him down and get him back to finish it. Then tons of people started leaving Tehran, and my parents down in Bandar Abbas were freaking out, thinking I might get hurt or worse.
Two days before the internet got locked down, I was supposed to head to Bandar the next day. On my way to the library, I passed a small, kind of isolated park, and from a distance, I saw a guy pouring something all over a few tires. It was pretty clear he was planning to set them on fire, probably to stir up panic. (later I found out he was an afghan infiltrator.)
So I slowly approached to get a better look, and once I was sure what was happening, I called 113 or 114(can't remember which). I realized he was going to light the fire and run, probably before the police could arrive. And then, I don't even know why the fuck, I grabbed a stick lying nearby and ran up behind him, smacked him on the side of the head, and knocked him out cold. His head was bleeding, and I was freaking out thinking maybe I accidentally killed the guy.
Police showed up, took me to the station, and sent him to the hospital! Took about a full day before he woke up and they cleared me of any charges. But they still made me delete the video I secretly recorded of him (some dumb "security" reason). Also yeah… kinda awkward when they saw my pony stuff on my phone.
Anyway, once I got out and they told me not to go around attacking faggots again and just report them, I rushed to Bandar Abbas by bus, stayed there for one day, and then came back to Tehran.
After that, I needed to download some really important notes from google drive, but the university internet(which was supposed to stay open), was totally dead. So I asked one of my IT buddies for help. I'm not really good with this tech stuff, but he explained something about static ips, telecom vs mobinnet. In the end, he lent me a mobinnet modem with a sim card, and that's how I managed to get back online, up until today when, finally, everything started working normally again.
So... what's your story, anon? Which city were you in when all this went down?(trying to be normal with you, as I see what did you post later.)
>have to tell all of my western friends in discord that i am alive
When I connected, I saw about 20 messages from different guys just in tel.
>fuck israel and fuck irgc
Oh shit! Here we go again...
>i was reading the other irani-fag replies. do not trust this faggot
Oh, so you just now realized the internet isn't a place to trust people?
Wow, truly groundbreaking.
Thanks for reminding us of the obvious, we would be so lost without you.
>they are a Irgc propaganda shil and they're here to just spread misinformation and manipulate brains.
First of all, please stop throwing around the word "irgc" like that. You are literally a delusional faggot who labels anything slightly opposing your stupid ideas as irgc guy. Please quit repeating that ridiculous nonsense!
Btw, you were the one giving wrong information right from the start: 12 days??? Really nigger??!
And I'm not here to "manipulate minds" like you say (so tell me, which of my statements was false or mind-manipulating?), but it seems like the one whose mind has been completely fucked by the devil is you, with your ridiculous opinions!
>in 12 days i could not connect here (or anywhere) just like most people in my country
I'll say it again, what damn timeline are you living in that you and most people in the country supposedly had no internet for 12 days??! I remember the only ones claiming that Iranians lost internet from day one of the war were some fucking kikes on 4chan pushing propaganda for themselves. Are you one of them??! Well, if that's the case, it explains everything...
>but this asshole somehow was able to do so
I think now you know how I did, asshole.
>he is sucking so much mullah dick rn
Just show me one fucking post from me that I did what you say faggot! JUST ONE FUCKING POST!!!
If you can't find it, shut the hell up and don't open your damn mouth about this nonsense anymore!
>either he has a special net form
Mobinnet's internet had low speed and barely connected to vpn, but when it did connect, the speed weirdly increased (I don't know why). My vpn was a paid one (PARS VPN) and it worked. Also, if I posted on the site without a vpn, it would show the Azerbaijan flag (I really don't know why, I still haven't asked my friend about that).
And you, if you just move your ass a bit and ask someone who actually knows this stuff, you can find a way too! (be ready for the next rounds of the war.)

>>393249
>or he is not even in iran (you can easily download iranian vpn for accessing farsi sites)
As they say: "کافر همه را به کیش خود پندارد"
The way you're accusing and acting like maybe I'm not even in Iran and I'm posting from abroad with an Iranian vpn, makes me wonder if you might be one of those people who throw such accusations at others??! Maybe you're not even Iranian at all! I feel like I'm looking right at the tip of your nose, at least mentally and in your thinking, you behave exactly like (((them)))!
I also remember you called yourself armenian, but every armenian I've ever met was calm, organized, with strong mental and ideological discipline, and culturally devoted, which is exactly the opposite of what you are! Even as a christian, you openly cursed god and said you love Jesus but hate his father! On the other hand, like the kikes, you say Iranians had no internet for 12 days! You weave sad stories from your past trying to make yourself feel at home in my heart, like some jewish martyr! On top of that, you talk like a neurotic, nihilistic jew, and I keep tolerating it, while you keep attacking me, enough already! Once, twice, three times, a hundred times!!! How many fucking times do I have to tolerate you, while you keep insulting me like a lunatic??! Enough, idiot!
If you’re jewish, well, nothing to say, your cover's blown. And if you're really Iranian, you're only Iranian in name, because you're nothing like a real Iranian. You honestly don't deserve to live if you don't care about it! And I don't give a fuck who the fuck you are, what ethnicity you belong to, what religion or ideology you follow, which city you're from, or what your past is... If you are Iranian and in these conditions want to act like a loser fool and make it seem like all Iranians are like that, then just get lost!
If you're against the kikes, then you have no right to say you don't want this damn war! Don't tell me you expect a lightning strike from the sky to kill them??! You have to break some eggs to make an omelet.
And if you don't care about Iran, insult someone who is analyzing this war, lie one after another, and think you're the most miserable person in the world, then you have the right to behave however you want. I hope you never live as an Iranian for a hundred years, asshole!
And don't you dare call yourself a nationalist, a nationalist who is so self-sold, westernized, and depressed is better off shitting in their own ass than screaming here!
If you're on the Iranian side, then don't lie like a dumb jew and tell the truth and real analysis! Otherwise, it's better for you to shut up and get lost!
>there is a cease fire. iran lost many military bases and nuclear sites
Well done, idiot! People here are trying to analyze how exactly this ceasefire is supposed to hold up despite all these problems, whether those bases that were hit have actually been destroyed, and where the uranium is now, then you come along and tell us the obvious! Thanks for the heads-up, dumbass!
>1k people are dead and near 13k people are injured
And again, another fucking big lie from you, idiot! How many shekels of their budget have they set aside for you, you fool?!
Even the highest numbers, even in unofficial sources, don't reach 1000 (I'm not even talking about the official 606). The highest number of injured doesn't exceed 6000. How did you manage to double that??!
Do you pull these lies out of your ass? Or are you connected to somewhere? Even your (((cyber shills))) haven't told such huge lies!
>tbh civilian casualty is pretty low compared to the amount fuckery missiles that IDF shot
Well, kike, what do you mean by that? Are you trying to say Israel has been friendly with the Iranian people or something? Bullshit!
First, your stats are wrong and those numbers are way lower. Second, all those Israeli missiles actually didn't hit their targets. Third, Israel was fighting Aryan Iranians, not some bunch of Gaza sandniggers. Surely they can't cause that much destruction and kill that many people.
And btw, why don't you say the same thing about Iran? Could it be that (((they))) told you if you say the same about Iran's attacks, they won't give you any shekels???
>IRGC did not do shit to israel , idc what anyone says.
<Another fucking big lie, extra shekels for you, faggot!
>irani people are scared and they are full of hatred toward their government , seem like they were happy that israel is punishing iran
Idiot! Even most of the Iranian opposition (including myself) have temporarily sided with the regime, because national interests are at risk, not political interests! And btw, exactly in which media or where in this country are you that you think you can judge the entire people, fool??! Where have the people, in the middle of a war, celebrated punishing the regime while Israel is attacking their country and killing ordinary people??! You probably, in your stupidity, think that celebration people had on Saturday was because they were happy about the attack on the regime?? No, dumbass! That day was Eid Ghadir, and millions of people celebrated it precisely to show they oppose Israel and that Israel cannot ruin their celebration. Something your backward brain probably can't understand! (This video is from that very day, faggot!)
>can't blame them. personally i don't know how to feel about the war
Yeah, you can't say anything meaningful. A damn traitor or an angry kike who currently feels humiliated can't express their feelings. You would rather shut up about this and just take your money.
>i can say that two cruel government fought and innocent people died pretty much
Oh! Better hope they don't dock your pay for that comment. Maybe they won't like you calling both sides "cruel" just to keep up appearances.
Besides, this war was between a country and its people against a bunch of kikes who, in the end, had to call in their mommy (the U.S) to maybe do something for them.(and U.S just dicked them, LoL)

>>393253
>internet is barely coming back.
This is one of the only lies I can't deny. Because honestly, when the internet came back, I was busy with something and only checked a few hours later, and it connected easily. But well, since I've experienced this before, maybe this is the only thing I'm willing to believe from you.
>yesterday was the most horrible day here , so many missile so many sounds so many explosions so many earth quakes (due to explossions)
Idiot! Just yesterday(last day) was one of the weak days. I was in Tehran myself, the peak of the explosions was early in the second week! Don't add too much hot sauce!
>>393254
>neither , i am just a hippy dude who wants to live his life and that is it , which i can't .you don't know what being iranian means...
This is exactly the kind of mindset a sellout traitor or a nihilistic kike would have. Deal with it, asshole.
As an ordinary Iranian, I am living my life and not whining like a loser.
If you want to fix your life situation, do something about it.
If you can't, then shut the hell up!
>your government is shit , your enemies are shit , your people are depressed and angry...
More whining from a pathetic loser.
No one gives a shit about your words, go fix your own life!
>i am just tired of this planet and it's living beings. and i cannot do anything about it
A nihilistic bastard illustrated.
>maybe i should scratch on the future government in iran or just have to live like a random npc like a normal person would do
Think like a passive loser so much that you explode! If you don't take action, nothing will get done for you!
Btw, you're one of the most abnormal bastard I've ever seen. No normal person is this crazy, pathetic, and a loser.

I had some hope in you before, but here you showed your true self.
As the poet says:
"بی کمالی های انسان از سخن پیدا شود
پسته بی مغز چون لب وا کند رسوا شود"

>>393252
I don't think he's even a 5th column. Because literally, he does nothing and, as they say, just brings everyone down.
We call people like this(who occasionally show up on twitter or tel) a type of troll. They truly believe in nothing and live in complete emptiness and stupidity. You can find these kinds of people both among the regime supporters and the opposition groups on tel. In both groups, they behave as if they're depressed and miserable, trying to spread that misery to others.
Among the regime supporters, they might make you lose your feelings toward the regime, and among the opposition, they behave in a way that makes you feel foolish. They're just self-deprecating, worthless people who really have nothing to offer and can't even serve as a good 5th column.
Such people are not truly in love with the west or the east because when you sold your homeland, you also sold the feeling of love itself (this may sound poetic and literary, but it'ls really serious). So they genuinely have no real belief in anything, and that's what leads to their ruin.
I don't know much about immigrants from other countries, but regarding Iranian immigrants (because some of my paternal family live abroad), I know that most of them are students, elites, businessmen, or their families. That's why they usually adhere to certain values and often belong to the middle to upper-middle class in western societies. Usually, they try to keep their heads down and don't interfere much in various issues, unless it directly concerns them.
They always carry a sense of nationalism and patriotism within themselves (they always feel alienated in the west). Whether they are opposition or regime supporters, they try to maintain their Iranian roots and religious identity (probably if you talk to some of them, they consider themselves secular or atheist, but as one of my cousins who lives in Westwood said, people hang symbols like Faravahar, the "One in a Thousand" tapestry, or pictures of the Shah and Mossadegh(who were mortal enemies) side by side because of their nationalist appearance).
Yes, there are also some illegal Iranian immigrants who are pretty much like "him" (he's the unhealthiest example among them).
Overall, this does not apply to legal Iranian immigrants, they basically don't shout or make a fuss.
This guy is a symbol of complete depression and madness leading to ruin.
>>393261
Your concern for him is understandable, but I have talked to him enough now to realize that he really has no way back. He has burned his bridges behind him and reached ruin and emptiness.
And I guarantee you, he is a human being, but a person you can no longer hope for. Even you, though you don't know many Iranians, can clearly see that he is mentally ill and cannot be a healthy Iranian. Of course, in my opinion, he might not even be Iranian at all.
As I said, he is probably either a self-sold, nihilistic person or a (((foolish cyber troll))). In either case, there is no hope for him.
>>393262
As I said, don't troll here.
>>393266
This is the kind of argument I call "دعوای زرگری".
There's no guarantee that this isn't just an act being played by both sides.
>>393268
I understood the talks and some of the jokes with people, but I think this whole thing is a bit too American for me. Is all this just joking about your politicians? I mostly feel it relates to internal matters.

P.S: please as I said, don't cheer the arab and (((irani-like))) trolls by replying them. Don't give a shit about them. I really could post something more useful, if I didn't have to reply them. Now I can just save my time.

>>393293
>Is all this just joking about your politicians?
No joking, but mocking them. They are incompetent, uncultured lying clowns and exhibit A why there is not political solution for western liberal/conservative democracy. This is not going to end well.

>>393294
It seems there's no government whose people don't hate it.
But well, Churchill once said something interesting:
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried.

>>393289
>And what about those few planes that came from china to Iran during the war, what exactly were they carrying?
I think electronic warfare equipment. If kikes sabotaged part of system, the air delivery is the fastest way. And GPS suppression against glide bombs quite effective. I wand to share some data about it first.

Pic related from our electronic warfare guide:
- Vertical scale -- radius of suppression in kilometers.
- Horizontal scale -- power output of EW-equipment in kilowatts.

As you can see power more than 1-2 kW actually useless, but numerous small stations effective, especially if they are on high altitude drones. We have two electronic warfare belts behind frontline. 10 km between them, stations 2-4 km one from the other (1-2 kW station = 0.8-1 km suppression). If glide bomb flies 20 km above two lines of stations it has deviation about ±20-30 meters, practically it makes bombs like SDB 4-5 times less effective.

Some details about SDB and GMLRS electronics:
- GPS DIGAR -- accuracy ±5-8 meters without suppression.
- INS HG1700 -- deviation 10 meters per 30 seconds fly if GPS was suppressed.
- Laser-guided -- laser from small drone 2.5 km from target (drone lifespan usually 1-3 sorties)

Ukrainians uses GLSDB (ground launched SDB with speed 250 m/s), but they trash compared to GMLRS (Himars missiles with speed 830 m/s), faster projectiles means better accuracy with INS. When GMLRS gained speed and gyroscope has activated during first minute after launch, this impossible to influence it during flight. To suppress GMLRS for sure you need EW-station at height of 12 km on the enemy territory, but small EW-drone can't reach such attitude. I do not know, what tricks we used to suppress GMLRS, enemy rarely uses it against units further than 10-20 km behind frontline, but can try up to 50 km distance if sees drone team or supply convoy.

Himars can launch GMLRS from 75 km (usually from 25-50 km zone behind frontline). Fly time 3-5 minutes, accuracy ±5-8 meters without suppression, usually 2-3 projectiles with cluster warheads against one target, equivalent of 100-150 unguided 152mm HE shells or 30-50 unguided cluster shells (2-3 injured, 0.3-0.5 killed). Production quite numerous, about 15-20k GMLRS in 2025FY, but reserves are exhausted, we sees missiles with new 2023 electronics.

GMLRS is most dangerous ground based weapon in NATO arsenal. GMLRS effective only against stationary targets (coordinates loaded in warhead before launch). Keep in mind 5 minutes period between detection and launch. Body armor reduces lethality by 2.5 times.

I hope, you will find some good use for it. Other answers tomorrow.

I just wish we would stop putting geriatric patients in charge of the nation.

>>393289
>Quite literally, the only one who actually fell for this 4d chess game is Trump himself!
Well of course, Trump is really easy to figure out and manipulate, because his ego demands that he is always the smartest and most powerful person in the room, regardless of who is in the room with him.
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views. Which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."

I doubt any removal of the likud party will be permanent. They tried that in 2021, but the coalition fell apart and the likud rapidly reasserted power.

>https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-26-2025/
LOL
>Khamenei: US entered war as it feared Israel ‘would be completely destroyed if it didn’t’
The average American can't even find Israel on the map.
There are even American jews who want nothing to do with Zionism.
The US entered the war because Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot, the President of the United States of America.
He tried to manipulate Congress as well, but there are just too many skeptics and gainsayers there.

>>393318
>Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot
>He tried to manipulate Congress
A gentle reminder.

God... This is the literal definition of PAIN

>>393318
>The US entered the war because Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot, the President of the United States of America.
Tbh, I think Bibi has yet to get the result he wanted. Bibi wants total regime change in Iran, and he wants the USA to fight the war for him. Trump just bombed a couple nuclear sites that can be rebuilt in a couple months.
Trump is motivated by vanity, and war is an ugly thing. He clearly wants this conflict over as soon as possible. He's also a narcissist, and seems to be keen on detecting manipulative egocentrists like Bibi who would try to disrespect and take advantage of him: that's why he was so openly angry at Bibi and berates him on TV the other day for breaking the ceasefire.
Trump is definitely still a Zionist and will do what's best for Israel, but I don't think he's going to buy into Bibi's self-destructive warmongering plan just yet.

>>393321
>Bibi wants total regime change in Iran
Yup, and he has already been pressuring Trump to "finish the job".
>Trump is motivated by vanity
Well, he can take comfort in the fact that he can call himself a wartime President, setting himself up alongside Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Reagan, and George W. Bush.
>Trump is definitely still a Zionist and will do what's best for Israel
He moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, long in Bibi's wish-list because it affirms Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.

>>393290
>>393292
>BLAH BLAH
you write too much and you care too much about what people say on the internet
that means you still have some dignity and hope to care to prove yourself for a random nigga on the internet
at this point i am just too depressed to give a fuck who is a good firend and who is a bad foe
life has been shit for all of us in iran
anyway
glad you're alive , and i don't care if you're basiji or npc or mossad or whatever the fuck you identify as
--
also you need to stop talking to that arabtard, that guy is a troll and he never posts in a good faith

Side note:
i swear to god the whole IRGC runs by the Jews
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CENSOR A SITE THAT IS BASED ON ANTI_SEMETISM and hating on israeli dildo nose jews?!
that is a ((GOOD THING))

>>393292
wow i made a mistake by actually reading that....
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE??!?!?!?
the main character ass mentality syndrome
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you are defending iran in a 4chan based site
by shit posting about israel
THAT IS NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING!! not for iran not against israel
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let me honest with you
Iran is not Persia , stop with the delusional nationalism
see the bad sides
persia was that father that was like a veteran hero whom was respected by everyone in the family
Islamic republic of iran is that autistic child who is a total embarrassment for the whole family , a retarded guy who is hated by everyone
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>>393291
welcome to mlpol , everyone are a jew shill until proven wrong (which never happens)
i am not a kafer , i born christian and i die as a christian
deal with it
i am not a nihilist , i just hate humanity as a whole
...
god you are sad and you are trying too much for idk for what reason and i am not sure what the fuck are you trying to prove here

>>393322
>Yup, and he has already been pressuring Trump to "finish the job".
I don't think Trump is going to do it. If he were open to doing that he would have done it already, and not played around bombing the nuclear sites or brokering ceasefires.
>Well, he can take comfort in the fact that he can call himself a wartime President, setting himself up alongside Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Reagan, and George W. Bush
Except the era of those assholes being popular has passed. There is no public appetite for war with Iran, despite what neocon warhawks claim.
>He moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, long in Bibi's wish-list because it affirms Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.
Yeah, I know. He's a Zionist shabbos goy. This has been clear for years.
Idk if that means he's about to enter total war with Iran though.

Iran’s Supreme Leader Threatens to Attack More U.S. Military Bases: “We Slapped America in the Face”

LOL, no. They lightly fondled our dick. If they're really feeling froggy, they could always, I dunno. TOUCH THE BOATS.

>[YouTube] Dont Touch America's Boats [Embed]

I refuse to be held responsible for the consequences that follow if they do, though.

>>393327
it is just bluffing , don't worry , from the day i born i was hearing him saying that he will destroy israel and usa
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did anyone here saw those AI khamenei speeches??
i don't have twitter so i cannot post the actual video but here it is with ass-mon reaction (sorry about that)
[YouTube] Iran response to Trump.. [Embed]

>>393328
i can't with the fucking accent in the video....that is not farsi accent

>>393284
>Idiot! Who even asked for a lecture on arab culture for you to start copy-pasting the entire arab encyclopedia?!
3 lines of words about arabs isn't an entire encyclopedia you're just too retarded to comprehend it
>Let me explain something to you, maybe then you'll actually understand what this is about:
>I'm a Lur myself, and I spent the first 13 years of my life in Khuzestan, living among Lurs and Arabs. I've seen Arab culture firsthand, the festivals, the traditions, the community. I know enough about it, and unlike you, I actually respect the Arabs of Khuzestan.
>They have real honor, courage, and a warrior spirit, their culture means something.
People of khuzestan are part-persoid mutts in both ways of culture and dna which is probably why you don't bother them because they're almost as swarthy as your "people", not because they have real honor or whatever you're babbling about
>My whole point is: why don't you arabs know your own identity anymore?
>Why have you abandoned your deeper culture in other countries and started acting like losers?
We haven't abandoned anything, the identity and culture of buckbreaking iranians and their puppets is still here
Centuries ago the arab khalifs crushed your sasanian grandfathers like cockroaches and now whenever iran tries creating an organization or a movement in the gulf it ends up getting crushed too
>I don't know, maybe this kind of honor and dignity only still exists in Khuzestani Arabs…
Definitely not lol
>So don't go thinking you're talking to someone ignorant.
You are ignorant though
>I know plenty about you, and that's exactly why I'm shocked at how far you've fallen and how spineless you've become.
Living between khuzestani mystery meat doesn't mean you know anything about pure arabs
>And btw, I didn't attack you for no reason.
>You were the one who made a dumbass comment about Iranians first, so I simply had to show you just how stupid you really are.
My original comment about iranians is still true
>Maybe now you'll learn not to run your mouth with every worthless take that pops into your head.
Nope, still haven't convinced me about anything
>Well, finally! Maybe the arabs are starting to wise up a little and realize that some dreams are just too much of a fantasy for them.
The majority of arabs have always hated ba'athism
>Well shit, guess the arabs are still brain-dead.
>No surprise though, they seem perfectly fine getting fucked by Israel while just sitting there like pathetic little cowards, doing absolutely nothing.
The arabs that are getting fucked by israel currently are the ones who still haven't learned to not fuck with them first in a random and idiotic way, which are of course the same retarded iranian puppets (hamas and hezbuallah)
>That's an incredibly gay take.
>You arabs are no different from the UN: completely useless and passive.
>It's honestly ridiculous that this is the kind of response you come back to me with.
Sure, arab leaders are cucked and useless, all leaders of all countries are cucked and useless.
You should keep in my mind that i don't lean to any country or nationalist group and i hate all governments including mine because of religious reasons you're probably too retarded to understand, i should've said this before.
but i would still prefer pseudo-sunnis over iranians and their minions any day
>Yeah, the first part of your post is just you regurgitating my own damn words back at me. Nice job...
I was just showing you that i think that specific part of your post but in a way of showing that it's shameful or something, whatever you wouldn't care
>But moving on:
>You arabs seriously must have some chronic memory loss.
>Wasn't it Iran that sent forces when ISIS was busy raping half of your arab lands? Or did that little fact magically slip your mind too?
Mentioning ISIS and them "busy raping" arab armies is not the own you think it is, ISIS fucked up maliki's regime and alot of iranian-backed nusayris in syria, that's one of the few reasons why i advocate them and support them against all arab regimes
>Let me remind you:
>Groups like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and even a bunch of your so-called "freedom fighters" in Palestine were trained, armed, and backed by Iran.
>Because let's be real, without Iran holding your hand, you guys can't organize shit on your own.
And guess what happens to these groups? They always pathetically lose against kikes and get raped by US airstrikes, because YOU are the ones that can't organize shit and end up embarrassing yourselves
>And this idea that Iran is "afraid" of direct war with Israel?
>That's some next-level delusion.
>Iran would jump at the chance for a ground war, it would steamroll Israel with superior numbers, real soldiers, and actual battlefield grit.
But they do, southren lebanese areas (excluding the borders) are fully safe for iranians most of the time because it's protected by hezbuallatcucks, iran can literally just send their soldiers there using airforce equipments and have a real face to face ground war with israel but they don't because as i said, they're cowards
>It's Israel that's too much of a coward to face Iran...
Both countries are too cowardly to face eachother
>Iran could have treated them like animals...
They kind of already do sadly but not in a direct way
<iran sends guns and rockets to groups in gaza
<these groups start fighting israel with it
<gaza gets destroyed to ashes
<israel wins
<cycle repeats
This is actual animal treatment for palestinian people
>And yeah, I know Iran never really saw you as true allies in the end, because they knew the truth about you, that if you ever got power and stayed in it for a while, you'd drown in your own pride (like what happened to Assad).
C'mon now you know iran doesn't actually care about that, assad has drowned in his own pride since the moment he became president and as a result to that a revolution happened in his country and iran still backed him up

>And yes, Hamas has always had issues with Iran and never really acted like a genuine ally.
>But I'm not sure about that 99%.
>All those videos you see on arab media, are they really made by that 1 percent?
They kind of are made by that 1 percent yeah, (and of course i didn't genuinely mean 99%, just a large majority) keep in mind i was only talking about palestinians
>Because honestly, in most of them, I saw people supporting Iranians...
Opposite for me
>Yeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.
And the other 30% betrayed them? Idk man that sounds like a big enough percent to call you betrayers
>I have never seen a people truly face genocide while other same countries just turn a blind eye...
Well you haven't really seen throughout history then
>A backward arab doesn't get that this is a rhetorical question blah blah blah
Sure but still nope
>That minority who take almost all the money from your country...
Like who?
>I mean the ideals of pan-arabism, sunni ideology, arab spirit and independence, and basically everything that defines a true arab.
What you meant is nonsensical then, "sunni ideology" and pan-arabism don't match with eachother
>>393285
>>and now you think you're really in a good position?
This was a part of your post which i accidentally forgot to quote correctly ignore it
>Iran's got the balls, and damn good ones!
>Iran can just threaten to do something and totally mess with your oil prices, which is the backbone of your economy!
>It easily sends warnings to your arab countries, and you end up shutting down your biggest air routes, clearing the skies for Iran...
All threats and warnings by iran to arab countries are nothingburgers, either not actually doing shit or no type of harm actually serious or relevant enough to cause them to collapse
>And if you think all that was just a staged show, then Iran can make the U.S dance to its tune...
I don't nor do i care about the other things you mentioned about iran-US rivalry, i'm talking about arabs here.
but for a fact the US can wipe the shit out of you guys and you know it
>And if the day comes, Iran will also have the balls to actually close the strait of Hormuz...
I really bet on that
>And idiot! You didn't even get the main point!
I used that scenario to show how easily your country can fall apart, and you're all pure arabs with no foreign-backed opposition.
Even without foreign backed opposition iran still can't take on arab countries alone or have the balls to do so like i said
>Let's change the scenario if you dare:...
Lol what? We're arguing not playing a game you can't just replace the subject of the point you were trying to make like that, i'm not even gonna bother replying to this
>LoL! Your stupid politicians, just to suck up to him, would bend over and fuck him if they had to.
Sure but still don't care what he calls some ocean region by
>Idiot, more Iranians than that one percent rich arab elite live in luxury societies.
Source? Proof? Evidence?
>Btw, I'm a poly-eng student right now...
Doooon't care
>Also, I don't get why you arabs always want to compete and show off?
>Why do you always flaunt things you didn't even work for?
>Why are you so jealous and obsessed with money and luxury?
Everyone likes doing these things, you sound like a broke faggot coping and seething about people who have the capability to own luxurious stuff
>You even show off your dick like you're the only ones who have one! (yeah, you did that dumb shit in this very thread >>393047)!
Persoid sissy whining about his tiny clitty getting mogged by arab cock, sad, many such cases!
>Believe me, showing off your dick and luxury doesn't help you at all.
Never said it does
>Stop this gay ass behavior already
<t. Iranian
Insane levels of irony here (look at picrel)
>Something like the early islamic caliphates or even Assad's current regime had some degree of arab independence...
That shitty regime doesn't even come near islamic caliphates
>Running around in the open is really a stupid move. The chance of getting injured even in these pointless escapes to nowhere is pretty high.
How do you know they're running to nowhere? They're probably just trying to go to a safer place
>Btw, this was one of the videos I saw. There are plenty more that show you really have no clue about war.
I've seen a million videos that came from inside actual warfare, you're not as knowledgeable as you think you are compared to me
>You're complete cowards and don't even consider the fact that Iran could have attacked the american bases inside your territory...
Why would we only consider that? Iran could be attacking anyone
>I mean, do these idiots really think Iran is going to target a shopping mall or something, so they just randomly hit places like that???...
They did in fact target random places while air striking tel aviv, it's normal they would consider iran is doing the same thing while air striking other countries or cities
>I think you should go watch videos of Iranian people during the missile war and compare them to your own.
Not much different
>After all, there's a difference between
Aryans and Semites.
Indeed, aryans are just another random irrelevant race and semites were chosen by god to have all known prophets and religious figures
>I'm glad to see you have some logic, but have you considered that the only arab country that directly fought Iran (and that was when Iran was at its weakest) was Iraq?
Yes and it was a useless war
>No other arab country has had direct conflict with Iran since then.
Why would they?

>If Saudi arabia or any other arab country acted like Saddam, you'd see that arabs wouldn't stand a chance against Iran, especially now that Iran has grown stronger, as you witnessed in the recent war.
Actually the recent war proved the opposite, just compare the casualties of iran to the casualties of israel since june 13 (look at picrel), it's a big embarrassment for iran
>Even though Iran entered your arab airspace, you couldn't do much about it.
The iranian missles that were sent to qatar ended up getting destroyed by air defense systems before reaching the targets, that's enough to be much of a doing about it
>I wish you had at least posted pictures of some of the poor neighborhoods in southern Tehran. As they say: "از این همه پیامبر، جرجیس را انتخاب کردید!" LoL!
"All of these prophets, chose george"
Wtf does this even mean? Is it some kind of unfunny iranian inside joke?
>The photo you sent is actually a part of the native and local areas of Mashhad (right near the shrine), which have all been endowed in the past.
Good for you guys ig but i still have other examples of slum shitholes in modren iran
>Even though the land there is very expensive, the local owners prefer to keep its poor-looking, non-materialistic appearance, something that's probably beyond the comprehension of you luxury-obsessed arabs.
So you people love to see your shitholes still looking like shitholes instead of improving it? Yikes, so backward, so primitive
>And again, you're doing the whole "one-upmanship" thing?
I'm just showing you how terrible the architecture of your people is before thinking you're that developed, that's it really
>I can also show photos of your poor neighborhoods (which happen to be quite numerous)!
>https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2019/12/23/vision-2030-and-poverty-in-saudi-arabia
These neighborhoods are called "العشوائيات", they're usually found in the western parts of the country where it's filled with non-arabs and it's already getting removed anyway lol, what a failure of an attempt to make a similar counter-argument
>And don't think slums or poor areas are anything unusual in the world.
I never thought that
>Why are you so obsessed with showing off luxury? Is it some kind of mental illness?
Why are you so obsessed with hating luxury? Is it some kind of iranian inferiority complex?
>Idiot! How the hell would something like Aramco(or better yet, "Americamco") survive without the U.S?
You do realize there are alot of foreign countries that participate in aramco other than america, right retard?
>Or let's forget that sanction scenario I mentioned earlier, if, hypothetically, the Americans just left your country and cut ties but didn't sanction you, could you honestly say you'd stay stable??!
Yes.
>Bilakh!
?
>>He has a genetic connection with the jews and, like them, is semitic.
Most modren jews (israelis) barely have any semitic blood
>>He's more money-hungry like the jews
Everyone is money-hungry in somewhat way, don't lie to yourself
>>He's arrogant like the jews
Yeah because i'm definitely the arrogant one here and not the iranian nationalist who thinks he's better than everyone, fuck off faggot
>>He uses his religion as a tool and changed it, just like the jews
Literally how, elaborate
><But the dumb arab thinks Aryan Iranians are like the jews
You absolutely are
>Bro, with your nonsense, you just shook Cyrus' grave on vibrate mode!
Your jokes aren't funny
>I think I get what's really bothering you. You're just a jealous sunni arab.
<point out the similarities between you and kikes
<"YOU'RE JUST A HECKIN JEALOUS ARAB!!!"
Do you even know what jealous means or do you just throw that word around whenever someone disagrees with you
>First of all, please don't start that stupid shia-sunni debate here(others can't understand it here).
Why do you care if others understand what we're talking about? This is a personal conversation between us two
>I'm neither an expert nor do I have the patience to argue with a brain-dead arab like you about it. Just know this: I have watched plenty of debates between shias and sunnis, and in every one of them, sunni arguments never convinced me as much as the shia ones. Also, I read your Sahih al-bukhari, a book full of drama, contradictions, and stories so unrealistic it turns into a comedy! Honestly, if you sold it as a comedy book, it would probably sell better.
I don't give a single fuck about what some polytheist on mlpol thinks about my religious beliefs, but go on
>And about "Greater Israel" and all that, why does that remind me of someone else... Ah! You arabs! You who attacked other nations with Trojan-horse islam and still keep doing it, you behave exactly like the jews, only they're a bit smarter at it than you are.
Islamic arab conquests were based, freed the middle east from false religions, and actually did happen, the idea of "greater israel" isn't based, believes in the implementing of an expanding of a state based on a false religion, and most likely would never happen because of how much of a non-realistic concept it is, there is absolutely no connection between those two.
>And about Iran, yes! The Persian empire and greater Iran are nothing bad. Unlike pan-arabism and greater Israel fantasies, greater Iran really existed and isn't just some sweet dream.
Your pagan empire was wiped off the map by arabs 1400 years ago, you should probably worry more about zog missles hitting your home for now instead of hyperfixating about an extinct empire
>Iran was great in history, and greater Iran is forming right now, not just under this regime but by the Iranians themselves. Even if the regime changes, the army and irgc won't just vanish overnight. (Of course, this war delayed the regime's fall by a few years.)
And greater iran is forming right now??? Holy shit please tell me you're just pretending retarded ironically, You can't be this delusional, your puppet state in syria got overthrown last year and you just embarrassed yourself in this recent war

-if anything iran's regime is getting closer to it's end
>That's exactly what you sunni arabs are worried about, because to build your own Islamic empire, you need Iran! Without Iran, you're stuck where you are.
Just a correction: *to build your own islamic empire, you need to condemn iran, with iran, your situation gets worse*
Iran stepping into arab problems always resulted nothing but iran wasting their money on military back-up just for their side to lose
>I have seen how hard you arabs try to tie this to Iranians being shia and say that if Iranians accepted sunni thought and joined the "Ummah", they would advance. Meanwhile, they're advancing anyway...
Advancing in failures maybe
>(you saw how different Iran is now compared to the Iran-Iraq war era)
Iraq successfully did a counter a offensive by the end of that war so idk what the goal you're trying to accomplish by mentioning it over and over again as if it's something to be proud of
>But you want to pull Iranians to your side so you can advance. Dream on!
Good, we don't need you
>Also, sunni worldview and their belief in the Messiah is more like the jews, while shias think more like christians. Islam came after christianity, so logically sunni beliefs should be closer to christianity than judaism, but clearly, you sunnis behave more like jews ideologically and worldview-wise, unlike the shias.
Judaism also came before christcuckoldy retard, what's your point?
>Could it mean sunni islam has gone astray and degenerated by jews? Just a theory...
A false theory yes
>And finally, you idiot! Why do you think just because Iranians and jews both seek glory...
The similarities between iranians and jews (which i already mentioned) have nothing to do with glory, it's disgraceful
>You sound a lot like a kike.
Projection
Well, when people hate you, and even after they get to know you, they still hate you (most hatred usually comes from ignorance) that kind of shows the problem is actually you.
People hate me because i'm right, they're the ignorants
>Look in the mirror and ask yourself: why?
Ask yourself why god chose you to be born as disgusting subhumanish filth
Yeah, yeah! Surely you're absolutely fucking right!
The so-called "Golden Age of Islam" wasn't basically one of those hellholes built by Iranians, and arabs? Yeah, they definitely don't want to stick themselves to that story or steal the credit! (Bilakh!)
The golden age of islam was built by all various races of sunni muslims
>And when your ancestors invaded Iran, they sure didn't see the Persian paradises (the famous Persian gardens, aka Iranian hellholes) and say, "Hey, these gardens must be the paradise promised in the Quran!" (And of course, those hellholes weren't beautiful at all, not to the extent that their Persian name "Paradis" ended up becoming the very word for paradises in so many languages!)
All this just for modren iran to be filled with ugly slums kek
>Almost all your arab regimes in past hadn't Iranian ministers and politicians controlling you, and you weren't actually living in the hellholes the Iranians made for you!
Yes, indeed almost all arab regimes in the past never had iranian ministers or politicians controlling the country and iranians didn't make our countries for us
>Let me give you a personal example for now:
>When we went to visit, we were surprised to see a lot of arabs in the waiting rooms and treatment wards! After talking to them, it turned out many arabs travel to Iran for cheaper and better healthcare services...
Wow arabs arabs from poor countries come to foreign countries for better services, who could've guessed Let me tell you something, i once were at saudi hospitals and just like you, i've seen alot of foreignes, but i don't bring that information up randomly and use it as a way to cope with the fact that i live in a hellhole, cheap and proper quality healthcare isn't special, even cuba has that, anyway, moving on
><Becoming an American colony,
And of course by "american colony" you mean not cucking themselves out for iran
>building a few more damn palaces for the rich,
The rich build palaces for themselves
>filling the country with whores and bitches,
Your women dream they can even be nearly as modest as ours
>killing migrant workers for a ridiculous project like NEOM
Of course the persoid feels bad for his jeet brothers who die working for their arab masters
>(which despite having astronomical budgets and no sanctions, isn’t progressing as planned),
Yeah mbs is slow at doing stuff, but it will happen, TRVST THE PLAN
>being unable to eradicate poverty and organized class disparity
Don't pretend like your shithole can do that either
>exploiting your own compatriots in the worst possible ways
Saudi arabia is serving it's compatriots best than anyone right now
>(something we wouldn't even do to our enemies)
Funny because you even do it to your own allies
>and failing to hide all your actions (like Khashoggi),
Khashoggi deserved it and we're not trying to "hide" his case we just don't care
>financially supporting terrorist groups and suffering
Literally never happened ever
>losses from them yourselves, and so on...
Losses from what???
>Yes, surely we Iranians cannot perform this much stupidity and passivity all at once...
You guys mastered it
>Ha! And then your own governments were controlled and eventually overthrown by Iranians!
What governments?
>In fact, you pointed your dick at Iran, but Iran shackled that ugly dick of yours and tamed and controlled you.
We pointed our dick at iran and they sucked it
>The fact that you think you raped shows how empty and useless your mind really is.
Cope, we raped the sasanians and we will do it again with modren iranians
Anyway, i only qouted necessary stuff to be responded to, that's all

>>393333
Again, qouting mistakes
Whatever, to the guy i was replying to if you're reading this just take it as an alarm and try noticing the qouting mistakes and not confuse it with my actual words

>>393331
>>393332
>>393333
god , you have to be one of the most unemployed people i ever seen
and your finger must hurt rn
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anyway , that is pic is from turkish qaznavian era
and yes turks were faggot and kinda still are

>>393335
It is? Okay i don't care i have other examples of persian faggotry anyway

>>393336
brother , seriously stop with the keyboard warrior bullshitism
also who cares?????
I don't like faggots but i definitely hate child marrying pedo (you)
i do believe that is worse

>>393337
Fuck off you don't tell me what i should do on the internet
Also if you hate child marriage you're a brainwashed npc unironically

>>393337
Anon, you're doing yourself by arguing with "SandAryan"

>>393338
>you don't tell me what i should do on the internet
i am just saying that it is embarrassing and sad (it does not comes from racism , you are just making a fool out of yourself)
>Also if you hate child marriage you're a brainwashed npc unironically
this post is approved by Diddy and Drake

The entire stretch of land between egypt and india is just full of crazies, I guess.

>>393340
It's not sad or embarrassing it's just a casual imageboard conversation, if that amount of words is too much for your braindead ass to comprehend then go back to tiktok or something

>>393339
>you're a hypocrite
i know , i know...(sigh)... FUCK!
>>393342
this is my theory:
1) during cold war USA needed islamic irrationals to get in power in middle east because of communism growth
commies are against religions so it would be natural for islamist to not accept them
that is why governments in iran and afghanistan suddenly changed
first thing iran did after islami revolution was to mass execute commies and marxist in iran.
also islamic radicals help to make oil countries to be always chaotic or atleast the whole middle east
cause oil countries can become rich super fast
2) about israel
i think israel created to be the first defense system for europe
after it existence , ,they fastly give it atomic bombs and advance warfare
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>The entire stretch of land between egypt and india is just full of crazies
anyway , you saying that with a us flag while not realizing that USA always was involved in a war from the very beginning
war with native americans
American revolution/Patriotic wars
Civil war
WW1 and WW2
Cold war (vietnam and cuba)
iraq and afghanistan
(waiting for more sequels)
i don't think anyone in this planet is sane
>>393343
no u

>>393344

(1)
Sorta close.The Iranian Islamic Revolution happened in 1979 because theShah of Iran (propped up by America) took a trip and his government was overthrown on his absence. American hostages were seized and held for over a year to prevent the USA from taking military action.

Afghanistan went down the way it did because the USSR invaded Afghanistan, and certain elements in the United States saw a chance to give the Russians a black eye by supplying them with advanced weaponry and training. Then when Russia finally got sick of wasting blood and treasure and left Afghanistan, the Mujahideen freedom fighters said, "Hey thanks America, we could not have done it without you. How about helping us rebuild, the country's kind of a mess after all that," and the American government just laughed and turned off the money hose. SO radical elements took over and became the Taliban, and the Mujahideen became the core of Al Qaeda.

We create our own demons. This is why identity politics are the worst, they lead to (proxy) wars of ideology with no thought given to consequences.

(2)
Israel. Don't look at us, the UK created that mess in 1947. America just supported it because "muh Judeo-Christian friendship" (there are still more Jews in America than there are in Israel). You can thank Donald Reagan and the so-called "moral majority" for fanning those flames in the 1980s. Yet again, identity and ideology lead to drama and devastation.

>>393345
<exaclty thanks for understanding
i think nowadays that the same strategy does not needed anymore
most arab countries at least the big ones developed friendship with america (mostly after "arabian spring")
i guess ameica is tired of islami terrorists
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about israel , i think they - specially nethanyahoo's zahoonist party- do need a fake ass big bad bully count dracula to terrorize their citizen , they don't want to get rid of khamenei yet , if it disapears israelis have no reason to vote for him anymore
Islamic republic scared the whole arabic countries in the way that most of them sided with israel
>UK did it
yeah i think US needs to stop listening to UK's plan
side note:
i don't know if it is true or not but
i heard that in UK's blue book - a book about what britz did in WW2
they unironically aided natzi germany in believe that they will stop USSR from growing in Europe
...well we saw how that bite them in the ass later

>>393347
>they unironically aided natzi germany in believe that they will stop USSR from growing in Europe
Yes, this was how the policy of "appeasement" got started. The thinking was, "If we just let Hitler do his thing for a while he'll be satisfied and his little empire will be a good buffer against Bolshevism".
Of course, classic hubris, Hitler decides it's not enough and he needs more resources (especially petroleum) to keep up his blitzkrieg, so he invaded everyone in Europe.
The United States probably would not have even gotten involved in WWII, but then Pearl Harbor happened (basically just Japan saying, "The Western Pacific is our turf, stay out of it and sell us oil") and lo and behold, a country that was born in war and defines its history by warfare suddenly got war fever and the shit hit the fan.

America was aggressively uninterested in what was going on in the Middle East, so long as the oil kept flowing. But then OPEC decided to throw its weight around in 1973 (The Arab Oil Embargo) which taught America how vulnerable its economy was to resource manipulation, and so the U.S. government got a lot more interested in meddling in the Middle East after that.

>>393349
Ironically the aftermath of WWII led to an expansion of Bolshevism (the Iron Curtain), so yeah, that worked out really well, didn't it.

>>393349
yeah!
other than what you mentioned
hitler was a ww1 vet who came back to his country and when he was what they did to his his country (harsh dept and sanctions and military restrictment) angered him so much , so no matter what happens he would take revenge from europe
so helping him never was a good idea for the west of europe
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Anyway talking about fuhrer
i found this video two weeks ago about translating
HOLY SHIT how right he was and how his prophecy about jews came true
[YouTube] AI RECONSTRUCTS HITLER'S SPEECH TO ENGLISH (Extended) [Embed]

>>393351
Yep, he definitely had a major grudge against western Europe for WWI, especially France and England. That's why when France surrendered in 1940, he forced them to sign the instrument of armistice in the same railway car that the allies made Germany sign the Armistice of 1918 in. He had a real hateboner for France.

>>393352
damn i wished that he also ordered to change the french language and their accent as well , that would be better than curing cancer
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also i wish that japan would not be an idiot to attack USA
if US never got involved , germany might have won in Europe

>>393353
The USA was bound to get involved eventually, isolationist sentiments notwithstanding, as America was one of the allies that defeated Germany in WWI, so the United States was also on HItler's Revenge List for sure.

>>393351
I gotta admit, though, it's tough to take that video seriously when the AI translation sounds like a monumentally pissed-off Eric Idle, and the subtitles have errors in them.

>>393355
i mean still it is kinda cool to hear his voice in english
I guess i just wait till AI gets even better at it
also it is good that now average normie can hear his preaches
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No one ever called him a liar once
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Anyway i need sleep and i won't bother you no more Anon
stay safe and take care , i wish luck and peace upon everyone here

>>393326
Bibi has quite the leverage over Trump, apparently.
>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyxg272nlyo

>>393358
Maybe, but wouldn't we already be at war with Iran if that were the case?

>>393359
I think Trump is anxious to avoid being mired in another Middle East conflict with no exit plan, particularly since that was a big campaign promise for him. But to be telling Israel's government that they should drop the Netanyahu corruption prosecution? Seriously? What next, he's going to call upon the ICC to rescind its arrest warrant for Netanyahu as well?

>>393338
A sane person I see.

>>393289
>I’m not a military expert, but I'm curious: if Iran were to decide to close the strait of Hormuz, how exactly would it go about doing it?
>Would it be done selectively? For example, would chinese ships be allowed to pass?
Iran has strongest naval denial capabilities in region, but actually any nation in region has this capabilities from now. Major threat for tankers is subsurface kamikaze-drones and miners. Cheap and easy to replace, hard to detect, hard to stop, need expensive and long-building infrastructure to protect route against them. Ukrainians uses Starlink to control them, but underwater drones can be autonomous (ship classification is trivial) or controlled by fiber optic cord. We started to use naval convoys for tankers in Black Sea and Baltic because of this threat, but tankers still extremely vulnerable. They are not attacked daily just because of agreement.

United States, China and Iran has similar kind of agreement for a many decades. Do not attack tankers, since any side can do this on major routes. And if faction like ISIS appeared and will try to make funds through piracy and blackmailing of insurance companies, all nations of agreement will erase this bastards together. But currently this agreement much more beneficial for China than for USA. This is why Trump started trade war and trying to take his share of profit through tariffs, but currently USA presence in the Middle East degrading, as well as diplomatic authority and capacity to project force by fleet. If USA leaves bases, China just replaced them. If USA decided to stay there, China may try to attack bases through proxy factions during next steps of escalation. Trump has two choices: change agreement to save at least some part of influence, or unleash major war in region to stop most of oil trade for next decade and hurt enemy more than itself (and he uses this strategy very often in war with globalists). But USA can't stuck in another Gulf war with own forces and can't allow existential threat to Israel at same time. Currently Trump's party trying to change agreement through this strange buffoonery of war. But they are ready to escalation.

I do not think that any selectivity is possible. If Iran close the Strait of Hormuz for unfriendly nations, the EU and US will be furious and just stops all ships by own forces. But USA can't make first step and close strait with own fleet and drones. All Trump's politics about image, he can't threaten chinese tankers directly or bomb american oil kikes property. So, he just provoke Iran, and each following provocation stronger than previous. One of my friends noticed, that for one of Nimitz–class carriers, which directed to Persian Gulf, this is last voyage. They scheduled replacement for 2026 year. Another Liberty-level happening possible.

Maybe China give in and sign new agreement to buy more time. Maybe USA give in and just focus on own problems. But if Trump really has serious situation inside country, then he will use any opportunity to unleash chaos in Persian Gulf and hurt China's major oil route when it still possible. Finally, Iran and Israel have own existential goals.

>I think Iran and china have made some plans for such a scenario, but until something actually happens, we can't say anything definitive.
Definitely. Persian Gulf extremely precious for China at least for next 20-30 years. They are trying to replace cars to electric ones, they ramp up their metallurgy only to extract more lithium and rare elements for accumulators and magnets, they cover deserts with solar panels, but oil requirement still overwhelming high. I don't know much about their current strategy. Usually under strong pressure they took a step back on major front, but two steps forward on another one.

>>393284
>Yeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.
I was quite impressed by this, but shamed at same time. When the war started and government decided to draft reservists, most of our opposition just run away in days and breach borders with Georgia and Kazakhstan like stormtroopers. But when economy show growth instead of decline and industrial salaries skyrocketing, they suddenly returned like nothing even happened. I watched in their blogs how they one by one turned to be comical-level vatans and support government louder than even most crazy patriots before the war. My faith in opposition saved one woman from liberal party, who works in medical reanimation: she don't leave country during hard days, and still hates regime.

Do you heard about fourth generations of Ibn Khaldun? The oldest, simplest and most precious model of social decline. First generation come from the desert and conquered the city. Second generation build country and expand borders. Third generation growth cypresses and makes poetry. Forth generation are conquered by barbarians from the desert. I see this cycles everywhere. USSR is perfect example, from first generation of revolutionary militants to soldiers and engineers, who rebuild country after war, then generation of scientists and lost egoistic generation of national disaster. And from 1990s another cycle again.

Looks like Iran was attacked, when second generation of soldiers transfer authority to third generation of liberals. Psychological part of this attack could be much devastating for fourth generation, but kikes clearly can't wait 25 years more. Unfortunately your rich neighbors along the Persian Gulf don't know experience of existential war for a long time. Your northern neighbors, like Azerbaijan, follows current Russian expansionism cycle and Iraq just pass his revolutionary ISIS moment. I think, Iraqi is your natural allies in the following war.

>>393285
>Meanwhile, Iran has been under harsh sanctions for decades, with separatist groups supported by foreigners and a diverse ethnic makeup, yet it hasn't broken apart!
>You? No way! No other country could handle what Iran has and not break apart!
Because Iran has imperial spirit. More than nation, more than tribe, but order and spiritual kin. I always laugh at 4chan anons, who dreams about etnostate. The strength of true nation is not separation, but will to guide others forward.

>>393296
It's quite sad, that Russia don't have political culture of protests like Iran or France. As northern nation we mostly more hierarchical, calculating and autistic than southern tribes and because of this any protests usually means serious level of insurgency. But people don't have ways to shed frustration, except internet. And It is difficult to blame opposition, when they don't fell connections with course and decisions of government. During USSR period we had soviet and national organizations with real authority, but they turned to be vulnerable to diasporas and external influence, especially in modern world.

Thanks to war connections between nation and government slowly restored. It's hard not to admit right course, if Europe and USA directly fought against us. On the other hand, it is like narcotic for government. Hard to stop, when deep social problems can be fixed just by price of 6% GDP and some dead provincials.

>>393325
>you are defending iran in a 4chan based site
>by shit posting about israel
>THAT IS NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING!! not for iran not against israel
Actually Iran has more influence in the western media than many of European countries. I like to use 4chan for this kind of lazy-tuned research and results was interesting sometimes. For example very strong and independent country Indonesia looks like black hole from 4chan perspective, but Iran was stable mentioned in a lot of conversations. Context doesn't matter, any kind of fame can be useful (our clownworld politics like Trump demonstrated it again and again). Indonesian voice at the world arena 15 times lover than Iranian one.

So, from this perspective you are voluntarily or not defending Iran too.

>>393349
>The United States probably would not have even gotten involved in WWII, but then Pearl Harbor happened (basically just Japan saying, "The Western Pacific is our turf, stay out of it and sell us oil") and lo and behold, a country that was born in war and defines its history by warfare suddenly got war fever and the shit hit the fan.
Pearl Harbor was inevitable when USA close oil import to Japan. They can't even maintain campaign in China with their own oil production, so their attempt to seize Indonesian oil was predictable. But I think USA did not expect so impudent attack.

Reminds current situation a little.

>>393370
The United States knew something was up, because there were diplomatic negotiations underway in Washington, which in a case of spectacularly poor timing, the last communication from Tokyo arrived after the attack was already underway. Communications in 1941 were not as instantaneous as they are today, so the Japanese probably hoped that it would take longer for news of the raid to reach Washington.
It is of course because of scaremongering yellow press cartoons like that that Executive Order 9066 was issued, resulting in the forcible internment of 120,000 Japanese American citizens in concentration camps.

>>393366
I was not in possession of that version, thanks.

Exhibit B.

Sites targeted by Iran.
>According to various Israeli media reports, damage spanned residential buildings, scientific infrastructure (e.g., labs at the Weizmann Institute in Rehovot), the Israeli Defense Ministry complex, and commercial hubs like the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. Iran also struck a military target near the Soroka Medical Center in Be’er Sheva. The medical center was hit by the blast wave, which caused extensive structural damage, a chemical leak, and dozens of injuries. The Israeli press claimed this was a direct strike on Soroka, but the fact that no one was killed undermines that claim.
>Iran also struck the following residential areas, reportedly targeting Israeli military and intelligence officials:
>- Bat Yam: 9 killed, ~200 wounded; high-rise apartments destroyed.
>- Ramat Gan: Nine buildings destroyed, hundreds displaced.
>- Haifa and Tel Aviv: Strikes near military HQs (“Kirya”) and civilian neighborhoods.

>>393365
no what i meant was that , it would not help iran in any shape or form
reality is that the nationalism of the other guy kinda blinded him to accept iran lost with the most casualty and damages
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iran is like that 1st grader who wants to mess with those 6th grader bullies
of course he will lose
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other than that , i see it as siding with a government that i hate , iran's islamic government is a total imbecile whom only has power against its people and for waste majority of it's existence oppressed us with the excuse that they are helping gaza and islam against israel
which always was a lie
they never harmed anyone other than iranians

>>393384
but i believe , israel would bring so much hatred to itself that the whole world would turn against them
because of how much of an obnoxious asshole they are
and how much they force themselves on everyone's throat

>>393401
esmail ghanaei... i heard a lot of people always calling him a spy , don't know why
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few day ago , IDF claimed that they called some of the higher ranks in sepah (/irgc) and scared them to join their side so they will not be killed on the later missile/drone fires
i guess these are them huh?
--
i am not sure but one thing that is a public knowledge is that there are a tons of spies in iranian's government on the top
some of the mullahs here are even called akhoond-e-englisi (mullahs of britain) which means they are also spy and shills

New Iranian mares just dropped.
Let's gooo !

>>393431
torn between would and the knowledge their father would kill them if did

>>393431
...(sigh)...only in equestria i guess
but hey one day ... one day

>>393447
it would not matter , if a revolution happens AGAIN
Iran would be turn friendly toward US , just like the King reign era
most people here when they see an American or an European , for them it is like they saw an rare beautiful Unicorn senpai , at least the where i live it is that way
iranians are so westernized and they value westernoids so so much more cooler , more progressed ,more open minded and more intelligent than them, and does not matter how much propaganda the govs shoves inside them , they always will be like that.

>>393465
Exactly as the Russians said. The pro-western 5th column in Iran is HUUUUUGE and is causing great concern.

>>393447
>implying goatfuckers would object to horsefuckery
He'd just force you to marry them both.

>>393467
in my opinion , friendship with the west is more benificial for iran
look at russia/china 's allies...North korea , venezuela , veitnam , belarus , bulgeria etc etc
now look at the US/EU 's allies...japan , south korea , germany , UAE , Saudi Arabia and etc etc
it is clear as sky which will benefits you more
during king Mohammed reza , Iran was one of the most powerful countries in middle east , richer than turkey richer than most of the oiled arab countries
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but i guess they were scared of that Iran , as Churchill once said
keep the arab rich and they obey you
keep the iranian poor so they will obey you
i am paraphrasing but that is pretty much what he said

>>393468
and pedophillia, don't forget the child marriage , that disgusting thing was not originally in my culture but after islam this became a norm ,
God! why did you created Arabs and Jews?? just to punish humanity with them?

>>393470
>Arabs
Iranians aren't Arabs. They're Persians.

>>393473
bro fucking hell am i a noob or it does not work?

>>393471
i am iranian (i am using vpn) cause for the side note in >>/mlpol/393324
and what i meant was after arabs attacked iran forced us to become muslim , not me tho i am from an armenian father and i grow up as a Chirstian, i am talking about the whole arab bullshitery
i am the noob

okay i am noob and retarded as well, there should be ''>>>''
anyway , you would know what i am trying say , FUCK...

>>393470
You like ponies at least. Even most inhuman kike has some light deeply in heart.

I just read about aftermath of recent Azerbaijan-Armenia war. Ten months of fuel blockade and forced exodus of all 120 thousands armenians from Nagorno-Karabakh, the historical homeland of Armenian civilization. What do you think about it?

>>393480
armenian genocide is one of the most clear evidence of islamic hypocrisy
you hear muslims (especially the turks) bitching and moaning about palestine but never talking about what the hell they did to Armenians and also Kurds and it never got enough.
turks in general were a bunch of assholes in history toward everyone, literally everyone.
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armenia is not really my country tho i mean yeah i am half armeni still i born in iran, but i do sympathise with my christian bros more than fucking muzlimous the retardeusex

>>393482
>it never got enough
wtf did i just said? i meant it is still going on

>>393469
>in my opinion , friendship with the west is more benificial for iran
That's recipe for destruction and slavery.
Remember ISIS? Iran's role is to be used as springboard to launch a new Jihad to the underbelly of Russia. So, if you are thinking about prosperity, it will only touch the oligarchs in Iran, but the people will live like the chumps in Irak and used for war.

>>393486
ISIS is when after iran's revolution
before that iran was a british shill and a secular country
i don't understand why would the west try to start a coup and change it , my guess is that they are bunch of paranoid retards who think they are the smartest and they decided that no king is not good for our cause so let's put a mullah there so we can control them easier
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anyway i am bergaining , what i want to say is that
iran definitely would become a secular after the islamic opperassion
many poeple hate islam due to action of the government and many of them believe islam is the religion of arabs not them
i see so many people in my area with Ahura mazda necklaces (zarthurustrian) and Cross necklaces which they are not born in those religions
i can swear to god that amount anti-religions and athism is growing so hard in iran , that hopefully islam will never and ever rise again here

>>393468
The objection lies not in horsefuckery, but in muzzie relations with a non-muzzie. Though perhaps they aren't all as fundamentalist as I've been led to believe.

>>393489
>Though perhaps they aren't all as fundamentalist as I've been led to believe
there are always people ones who are open-minded in any group
but in average , waste majority of extremely religious people tend to be a bunch of crackheads whom shine in a brain-dead zombified group more than the others

>>393490
what i mean is that because one wolf did not attacked you when it saw you
that doesn't equal to no wolves will ever attack you

>>393487
>i don't understand why would the west try to start a coup and change it
Push and Pull to bring chaos to the region.
Allow me to give you a hint.
The Shah was dethroned by a "revolution", then that begs the question... Funded by who? The incoming Ayatollah was living in France, not in a neighboring country, then he was flown to Iran to take power. Curious isn't it? An anti-American revolution with a leader hosted by a western country... does it make sense to you?

>>393487
>i can swear to god that amount anti-religions and athism is growing so hard in iran , that hopefully islam will never and ever rise again here
>i can swear to god
Sure, the problem with your worldview is that you are unable to see the pattern. A sector of the population infatuated with western culture but that it was never and will never be part of it. Same than Ukraine, they wanted so hard to be Europeans that most of them are now dead or dispossessed.

>>393490
For the record to make very clear what is the political situation. Iran has a very powerful jewish population with representation in the iranian parliament, even if they claim to be anti-zionists, they are 100 percent pro-jew.

>>393493
also don't forget , khomeini played them , saying he did a ''خطئه khot'eh'' which litterally just means lying.
they definitely talked to him to make him useful for themselves but he crossed all of them
then they pushed iraq to attack iran as a way of punishment.
>>393496
what ukraine has to do with ''atheism''?
are you really one of those delusionals who thinks without islam and with accepting western modernism , all of us doomed to hell because of a book written 1400 years ago??
>>393497
>very powerful jewish population
powerful?? bro they are like at best 10 thousand of them here in 80 million population and i am pretty much sure , government already checks and observe the shit out of them , i don't think they can be that much of threat
especially when iran's government there are so many sellout spies already

>>393539
>are you really one of those delusionals who thinks without islam and with accepting western modernism , all of us doomed to hell
TBH, yes. Many of you people lost your way to the degree of being transgender tolerant and to show an alarming lust for money, plus you have an identity problem if you look at the west for inspiration.
Islam gives you a framework of morality and civility. Don't get me wrong, Islam is poison for the West, and in the West must be destroyed together with its people living among us; but given your Asian mindset and ethnicity, Islam is beneficial to the Iranian people.
>powerful?? bro they are like at best 10 thousand of them
Way, way more I'm told, living there for thousands of years and having a grip on most of the economy, they are considered another iranian faction pulling the levers of power.

>>393542
thanks for your honesty
but why the fuck are you assuming shit about me
> transgender tolerant
i am not in any shape or form tolerant toward them , they are unhealthy psycho-pathetical asylum patients
and i hate faggots in general
>you have an identity problem if you look at the west
bro if you wanna be a traditionalist and fundamentalist just go back to a cave and live there , we humans use to do that
if you wanna stick into the past , you deserve to be left alone in the past
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most of the fucking technology that you are using , PC , Phone , Electricity , Lights (lamps) etc and etc are invented/discovered by westerners
<stop being ungrateful
other than islam's golden era where advancement and enlightenment was some what appreciated
after that islam did not gave us anything other than ass backwarded brain dead zombies who cannot follow anything other than bullshits of the mumbo jumbo that they believed in
cause islam is far from its root and any religion far from its root is considered harmful ideology full of poisonous backward thinkings
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> Islam is beneficial to the Iranian people
islam never was our religion and never will be our culture
our language and culture got fucked by swarming of the arabic beetles to our country by ((force of SWORD))
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they don't need to pull of jews in iran so israel can get in power
the prince reza is already a fucking US, britain , israeli shill
also my father told me yesterday that one of the daughter or grand-daughther of reza is married to a jewish political figures
and my dad added that they might kill him to get her in power as the future queen
that is way more concerning

>>393542
also also , from when did you become such a jew hater?
was not this your thread?
>>>/mlpol/389778 →

>>393548
wait i think i mistake you with that guy , sorry

>>393487
>>393487
>i don't understand why would the west try to start a coup and change it
Most western liberal governments are now "idea faeries", that is to say, they have what they think is a good idea and they start working on it, but they lack the resources and/or the political will to carry their ideations through to fruition.
So the result we get is a lot of big talk and no action, and half-assed "solutions" that do nothing to address the root causes of the problem.

>>393581
so the governments are full of self-righteous discord/reddit moderators with more power irl thinking they are the smartest while being the most retardests
yeah make sense

Three explosions have occurred in Iran in recent days. The explosions occurred at the Shahid Rajaee port, a motorcycle factory in Mashhad, and a cardboard factory in Karaj. The explosion at Shahid Rajaee port killed 57 people and injured more than 1,000.
Description of the explosions:
Shahid Rajaee port explosion:
The explosion occurred on April 26, 2025 at the Shahid Rajaee port in southern Iran. State media reports indicate that 57 people were killed and more than 1,000 were injured. The explosion occurred at around 12:20 Iranian time, due to a fire in several containers containing explosives, including ammonium perchlorate, in the port's quay area. The incident occurred in the midst of negotiations between Iran and the United States over Iran's nuclear program.
Motorcycle factory explosion:
The explosion occurred at a motorcycle factory in Mashhad, northern Iran. The incident caused a fire in a warehouse containing tires and cardboard. The fire was contained, but the cause of the explosion and possible casualties are not yet known.
Explosion at cardboard factory:
The explosion occurred at a cardboard factory in Karaj, near Tehran. The incident also caused a large fire, raising concerns about industrial safety and the possibility of sabotage in the country.
Related:
Following the Shahid Rajaee Port explosion, Iranian authorities ordered news censorship, and some sources have raised the possibility of sabotage in the incident.
The explosion at Shahid Rajaee Port may have caused huge financial losses, with some officials estimating the damage at between $3 billion and $5 billion.
In addition to these explosions, a series of other similar incidents have recently occurred in Iran, raising concerns about industrial safety and the possibility of sabotage.
The explosions come at a time of rising regional and international tensions, with Iran currently engaged in nuclear negotiations and confrontation with Israel
links:
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h1q0zlslee
https://www.iranintl.com/en/liveblog/202504261552
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>>393594
jews are at it again

>>393311
Thank you very much for this technical information. It was a bit difficult to fully understand everything you explained, but I think I got it in the end.
From what it seems, right now a lot of aircraft are being sent from europe and the U.S (we could say from the NATO side) towards israel, and if(as you said)they use the strongest ground-based weapons, it will probably be effective in electronic warfare.
But as you also said, this disruption must happen as quickly as possible, so that after the INS activates, there will be a longer delay and reduced accuracy.
I don't know whether israel has been using GMLRS in this war to destroy launchers (because the launchers were usually destroyed by drones and micro-UAVs launched internally by infiltrators), but I'm pretty sure now that many of those infiltrators have been captured by Iran, israel is relying more on equipment being sent by NATO.
The main problem for Iran was protecting its lunchers. If it wants to protect them now, it can't just rely on GPS jamming equipment, it needs actual air defense systems. And since Iran has become more alert and arrested many infiltrators, it must now be able to protect those systems more effectively.
So my question is this: Isn't it possible that air defense systems are also being sent (to Iran)?
This war has made Iran much more distrustful of Russia (not that it trusted them much before), but now its semi-strategic partner seems to be shifting from Russia to China.
Iran will likely rely more on Chinese and indigenous defense systems.
>>393312
Thanks!
>>393313
Looks like this war is just a battle in a retirement home, just take a look at the key players involved:
Khamenei : 85 years old
Trump : 79 years old
Netanyahu : 75 years old
Putin : 72 years old
Jinping : 72 years old
There's no surprise why this war is so gay...
>>393316
A proud populist dude. Just imagine if he was a democrat in some parallel universe, he would probably wear a purple suit and yelling "Make America Cool Again!" with a MACA hat on.
But seriously, he has his own plan, but he doesn't realize he can't understand everything with his over-simplified explanations. I don't blame him, because he's wearing the "Trillion-dollar Glasses." (I'll explain what that means in replies below.)
>I doubt any removal of the likud party will be permanent. They tried that in 2021, but the coalition fell apart and the likud rapidly reasserted power.
I feel the same way. Netanyahu goes, and his party buddy comes in.
>>393318
>LOL
I don't get why these kikes get so pissed over such a small amount of money. The U.S has given israel hundreds of times more than that.
>The US entered the war because Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot, the President of the United States of America.
I don't think this whole thing is really about Trump or Netanyahu in general. Sure, this specific war might be connected, but overall, Khamenei usually throws out the same vague lines about israel and the U.S, it's one of the most typical and predictable things he says. The only difference now is that more people around the world are actually listening to his speeches. Most of the time, even Iranians don't really pay attention to what he says. People only tune in when stuff gets tense. And this one? Just one of his usual talks at all, not a big deal.
>The average American can't even find Israel on the map.
Also yeah, I totally get it. I still remember that poll. [pic related]
I just mean... Wtf about those Americans who thought Iran is an autonomous region inside their own country??! That points on the map wasn't even a joke, don't think they were trolling, I think they were fucking serious!!!
>>393319
Could this theory be true, that Bibi offers children as bribes?
>>393320
That's nothing. Back when I used free vpns, that was real PAIN! Getting spammed with a ton of garbage ads, and in the end, none of them even worked, that hits different.
(every Iranian has to prove they're more miserable than the other Iranian, right?)
>>393321
Sure, Trump fights for israel just like Netanyahu does, but at the end of the day, he's still an American. He's not gonna fuck his own country for israel when there are easier ways to get what he wants.
That whole berating? Like I said, it's just a "دعوای زرگری".
And honestly, Trump acts like a mom scolding her kid (Netanyahu) for picking fights with others. Maybe he even blames his own kid instead of the other side… but if that kid's life were really in danger, that same mom would break every moral rule to save him.
Right now? It still all looks like a show to me. Bibi is just still dumb enough to mess things up, and Trump's even dumber, can't even run his own plan right.
>>393322
Yeah, that MIGA thing...
But either way, I think Trump still isn't fully sold on regime change. I'm not saying he's against it 100%, just that he's probably still leaving about 10–15% room for hope. He's still hoping there's a chance for an alliance with this regime, something that, under the current regime, feels like pure fantasy. But it's the kind of fantasy that's a total nightmare for Netanyahu and israel.
A U.S-Iran partnership would hurt China and Russia, and worst of all, Israel, more than anyone else.
Israel wants regime change to weaken or maybe even break up Iran.
But Trump? He's looking for an alliance with the regime in Iran, whether it's the current one (unlikely) or a new one.
America needs a stable Iran for its Rimland strategy.

>>393324
>>393325
>you write too much and you care too much about what people....
Honestly, since the war started, some of my work got delayed, so I have some free time. And anyway, I enjoy arguing (I mean, aren't these sites made for that?).
Usually, since I don't have time to constantly send short replies, I just wait till a few messages pile up and then hit back with a long reply all at once (you know, as they say: fire all your canons at once!).
It's not really about trying to prove myself to that sandnigger, I just wanted to make him realize how dumb he was. But yeah, I only waste so much time on someone. If they're still acting dumb, I just stop replying for real.
>at this point i am just too depressed to give a fuck...
Anyway, I hope you get better. Depression isn't something you should just "learn to live with." I swear we have all been through that.
<(I know you probably don't care.)
I lost my gf during covid. She was a nursing student and volunteered to help at a hospital. It was near the end of the first year of covid, literally a week after I introduced her to my parents, she died of it. You think I didn't fall into depression? You think I don't live in this same country too?
Cut the crap with this "woe is me" stuff, dive into it and get over it. Depression is only worth giving energy to up to a point, then you gotta move on. Quit the emotional baby games!
>glad you're alive
Also, yeah, I'm glad my fellow Iranian(if you really are) is alive and can even post here.
>and i don't care if you're basiji or npc or mossad or whatever the fuck you identify as
I’m just an MLP-loving politics nerd. That's all you need to know about me here.
>also you need to stop talking to that arabtard, that guy is a troll and he never posts in a good faith
About that arabtard, yeah, I knew he was trolling, but I kinda let him reveal his own stupidity first. Once he did, I stopped replying.
Funny thing is, I remember you arguing with the same arab guy in another thread (I think that was my thread), and I told you to stop, now you're saying the same thing to me. Like they say: "خیاط تو کوزه افتاد"!
>Side note
I think that conspiracy theory is a bit hard to believe. I mean, I do believe Mossad has influence, but full-on ZOG? Nah, that's too far-fetched.
Sure, there's infiltration, no doubt. But the system isn't totally turned into some ZOG puppet like in those other govs in the world. And like it or not, these guys fought for 12 days. You can't just ignore the efforts of a lot of their forces.
That whole hardcore irgc ideology? It's mostly up in the top brass. The lower ranks, just like any other regular Iranians, normal people serving the country. I have realized that too.
Most irgc guys aren't even "enghelabi", if they're not anti-regime, they're still not the thing that people usually though. So yeah, painting the entire irgc as some kikes puppet force? That's just plain unfair. Even if the regime falls, they'll still be around. Maybe restructured, some commanders arrested, merged with the army, but the core remains.
Also, seriously, what the hell did I even say that made me look like irgc??!
>WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE??!?!?!?
Just an anon...
>you are defending iran in a 4chan based...
First of all, please point me to where exactly I "shitposted" about israel.
Also, what's this thread about? That's right, the Iran–israel war.
And who am I? Yep, an Iranian.
So logically, what am I supposed to do? Obviously, defend my country.
And even then, I'm not blindly defending anything, I mostly share my own analysis first.
I haven't even claimed that Iran "won" this war or anything like that(technically, this war isn't over, شاهنامه آخرش خوشه).
You'll find the kind of people you're talking about in /pol/, ranting about the Talmud.
I tried to keep things as realistic as possible, without quoting Iranian propaganda or ZOG-tier sources.
No one's trying to "do" anything here, it's a thread about a war, and I wrote about the war.
And why did I get mad at you?
Because you were acting like a kike, lying.
I hate lies and misinformation. Even if you were lying in favor of Iran, it still wouldn't make a difference to me.
Not exactly hard thing...
>let me honest with you...
I get what you're saying, but trust me, I've argued with plenty of monarchists and hardcore nationalists to know the difference between delusional nationalism and something real.
Yes, Iran is not Persia. "Persia" is a greek name that was later used because of the Achaemenid ethnicity. But Iran is a Persian word, and it literally represents what Iran truly is.
Yes! Iran is not Persia. Iran is Iran!
And look, you don't need to be a sociologist, geographer, or historian to feel that there's something special about Iran, something other countries don't have.
Iran has a certain core(a force) that's kept it together despite separatist groups, foreign pressure, and endless attempts to break it apart.
Most countries would have fallen apart under what Iran has endured.
That special strength of Iranians, which is visible throughout history, has nothing to do with this current regime.
Iran is the one country that truly can't be destroyed by invasion. Its internal structure simply won't allow it.
Every time Iran has been brought down, it's been because of betrayal, never force.
Even Alexander had to rely on a traitor shepherd to get through, and that was during the reign of one of Iran's most incompetent king.
Without that betrayal, he would have to turn back. Iran wouldn't have fallen.
And that's the problem, there are people who want to convince you that Iran will never be great again, just to make you their "shepherd".(maybe a cod reference, too)
But you're not supposed to care what kind of government is ruling you right now, or how incompetent they are.
As long as your homeland is under attack, all that talk means nothing.
Did Ariobarzanes care that his king had fled? No. He did his duty, not for the king, not for monarchy, but for his homeland.

>>393325
>welcome to mlpol , everyone are...
Everyone are faggots, including me.
That's just the logic I go by. I don't care about the idea that I have to assume everyone's a jew by default.
Also, there's a difference between assuming someone's a jew and them actually proving they are one.
You didn't really deny being a jew, instead, the way you talked made you act like one, which only made it more convincing.
>i am not a kafer , i born christian and i die as a christian. deal with it
آخه لامصب!
من نمی‌دونم تو چقدر ادبیات فارسی حالیته، ولی خدایی یه اصطلاحی مثل این رو هر خری که یکم فارسی بلده، می‌دونه. چرا بجای اینکه اصل مطلب این ضرب‌المثل رو بگیری، به فرعش می‌پردازی؟؟! اصلا اشتباهت هم لفظی بود، نه معنایی! اینجا کافر یعنی فرد بداندیش و کوته نظر، نه از نظر دینی! من کاری با مسیحی بودن تو ندارم.
یکم منطقی باش! من از عمد فارسی می‌نویسم که بدونی یه اصطلاح، ضرب‌المثل و یا شعر نوشتم، ولی خدایی چطور تونستی اینجوری اشتباه کنی؟؟ اگه واقعا این چیزایی که می‌نویسم رو نمیفهمی، میتونی راحت سرچش کنی. نمی‌دونم چت جی پی تی اینقدر باهوش هست که بفهمه یا نه، ولی اگه با سرچ نتونستی، بنظرم با چت جی پی تی هم امتحان کن.
>i am not a nihilist, i just hate humanity as a whole
به بز گفتن شاخ داری؟ گفت نه، پیچ دارم!
>god you are sad and you are trying too much for idk...
Now I'm the sad one?
I'm just here for war, analysis, news and so on... Understand??
>>393326
>I don't think Trump is going to do it. If he were...
Both Trump and Netanyahu want regime change, but Trump wants to end the regime, while Netanyahu wants to end Iran.
Unlike Netanyahu, Trump needs a stable Iran for alliance(Rimland strategy), which is exactly what Netanyahu doesn't want.
>Except the era of those assholes being popular has...
Maybe that's why Trump wants the regime change to come from inside.
He probably believes he can convince the Iranian people to bring it down themselves.(But this war made things harder for him and delayed regime change, because people shifted into defending their homeland.)
>Yeah, I know. He's a Zionist shabbos goy. This has...
Trump, as much as possible, tries to avoid going to war.
A direct war would only be a loss for the U.S.
That "Trillion-dollar Glasses" would only bring America more damage.(I explained about it below)
>>393327
Don't get hyped so fast. He always says this shit. There won't be anything about it.
You're just now getting familiar with his speeches, this isn't anything new.
Also, you seem pretty detached from reality.
As they say: never trust the weapon in your hand or get cocky about it, yet that's exactly what you are doing.
You think your military hasn't thought this through?
If they could, they would have attacked Iran at the first opportunity.
A naval war?? Have you even read about Iran's navy?
Sure, it might seem weaker in some ways, but you should do some proper research.
If it ever happens, this war will look more like the spanish Armada.
My advice: learn more before posting smug memes.
Last time before Ferdo, you just crashed your helicopters in Tabas by yourselves!(really how?!)
Your military knows a war with Iran would be worse than Vietnam. That's why Trump's doing everything he can to avoid it.
I have actually developed a theory I call "Trillion-dollar Glasses", a lens the west was forced to wear after ww2, when most kikes betrayed the eastern bloc and joined the west.
These glasses are on your face now, and they distort your perception of almost every situation.
Most of the cold war conflicts and after it, Vietnam, Cuba, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, all came from this flawed vision that kikes handed you.
Your belief that the middle east is a "danger zone"?
That's not reality, it's a delusion created after you shoved your heads up the middle east's ass. Then you made it dangerous.
You don't even know your enemy. That's why you can't really win.
These glasses have already cost you trillions and will cost even more.
You don't know the middle east, the kikes do, but you don't. And you always walk into war with pride, until you get hit with reality and start whining.
These glasses have made you arrogant, clueless, and blind when it comes to war.
You think you're saving the world, when in fact, you're the one who caused the mess.
Half-cleaning up your own disasters isn't "saving" anything.
These glasses made you believe islam is violent, when before these glasses, you didn't even see this kind of violence.
They turned christians against each other over stupid secondary issues, while the core of their faith faded away.
They even made you believe judaism= zionism.
And now you're proudly shouting "I hate kikes!", thinking you're not being manipulated?
That's like saying you hate the chinese, while posting that comment from a device made entirely in China. China doesn't care, as long as you're helping their economy.
Same with the kikes.
They don't care if you hate them or not, as long as your money ends up in their pockets and your worldview is exactly what they want.
So yeah, go ahead, shout "America First!"
You have only just noticed there's something sitting on your nose,
but by the time you realize it's a pair of glasses and not your actual sight,
it'll be too late. The kikes will have already upgraded them into "Quadrillion-dollar Glasses", and their prophecy of world control will be complete.
Take those damn glasses off.
They have made you arrogant, brainwashed, and incapable of thinking straight.
Since ww2, after total jewish infiltration,
U.S have become a dumb tool in one pointless war after another, and it gained nothing from any of them.
So don't get cocky.
This naval war you're dreaming about?
It'll hurt both sides(but mostly you) and wreck the global oil supply while it's at it.
>>393328
I hadn't seen that before, but honestly, it's true, he really does look like a cod villain.
But seriously, what the hell is this guy even supposed to be?
I tried watching some of his videos, but all I saw was a bunch of ZOG bullshits and "restless hand syndrome"crap.
Is that basically what he is overall?

>>393329
AI made his accent sound like a 110 years old pajeet who just chewed tobacco and is now trying to force out English.
AI still has a long way to go.
>>393335
>>393337
>>393340
Bro, you literally told me a few messages ago to stop arguing with him, and now you're arguing with him?
Just drop it. After reading his latest bullshits, I'm pretty sure this pedo either lives in some alternate timeline or just looks at history pictures without actually knowing anything and his strategic mind is weaker than the noobiest HOI4 player out there.
Forget it, he's completely lost it.
>>393339
I just realized that arab really not worth arguing with at all.
Btw, arabs are Semitic, not Aryan.
>>393341
I'm just thinking about how much content is gonna come out of this war…
>>393342
What you said is like the Joker poisoning all of Gotham with his gas and then saying:
"I guess this city is full of crazies…"
Yeah, this is one the effects of "Trillion-dollar Glasses".
>>393344
>>393345
At some point, I need to talk about a part of Iran's history, politics, and society. Feels like there's a lot of wrong info out there.
But honestly, I really don't feel like writing it right now.
>>393347
>i think nowadays that the same strategy does not needed anymore
That's exactly what the U.S wants to do again when it comes to Iran.
And I'm telling you right now, if the regime were to fall today and a pro-american gov took over, two or three generations after that would get a deeply anti-american population.
(Don't ask why, just think about history a little.)
>i guess ameica is tired of islami terrorists
Unfortunately, this whole "Trillion-dollar Glasses" has made the U.S incapable of learning. Even right now, Trump is considering lifting sanctions on Syria just because of Tahrir al-sham.
Nothing has really changed.
>about israel , i think they - specially nethanyahoo's zahoonist party- do need a fake ass...
As for israel, the entire state is built on zionism, so saying "Netanyahu's Zionist party" kinda feels meaningless.
But yeah, like I said before, israel (especially Bibi) needs an enemy to justify its own existence. And if there isn't one, they'll make one up.
They haven't assassinated Khamenei yet because they know if he's gone, someone way more radical will take his place, probably someone who wouldn't hesitate to order a nuclear strike on israel.
(which is ironic, because the reason Iran's nuke program is moving slowly is because of Khamenei himself. Weird how it's him the Zionists should actually be thankful for!)
>Islamic republic scared...
Originally, it was Iraq that tried to take on Iran, but after Saddam attacked and got pushed back (and don't give me that "it was a tie" BS, even a guy playing Risk knows if you attack and fail to gain anything, that's a loss), the war scared the arab world, and they ran to israel for protection.
>yeah i think US needs to stop listening to UK's plan
In reality, it was Britain that first tried to manage all this, and when it couldn't, it dumped the responsibility on America, and America kept pushing forward until itself became infected with the ZOG virus.
Sadly, the U.S still hasn't found a cure for it.
>side note
You could say that Britain was actually helping Germany before* ww2.
It was even the British who, in the first place, encouraged Reza shah to build good relations with the Germans, something that eventually made Reza shah even more eager about it than the British themselves.
>>393349
>Yes, this was how the policy of "appeasement" got...
Yeah, Britain started this fire, and then burned in it too.
>The United States probably would not have even gotten involved in...
In my opinion, Pearl Harbor was what you may call a "passive false flag", kind of like October 7th for israel.
They knew the enemy was going to attack, but let it happen to create an excuse.
The U.S probably saw it coming, they had already moved some of their expensive gear and aircraft carriers out of the base before the attack. That's a bit suspicious.
>America was aggressively uninterested in what was...
There were basically three main reasons:
The U.S needed access to Middle Eastern oil and gas.
Israel, as a U.S proxy(and ZOG virus), needed its enemies in the region to be weakened.
And the Middle East was a key piece in the Rimland strategy.
>>393350
Overall, Britain messed up a lot over the past 150 years, and much of the world (including Britain itself) is still dealing with the consequences.
>>393351
Their mistake was underestimating Hitler, and he took advantage of that. But in the end, Hitler made a mistake and bit off more than he could chew. He could have handled the invasions of Britain and the USSR much more effectively, but he didn't.
And yes, he was always right about kikes.
(This AI is really better than that one.)
>>393352
I'm still wondering what exactly caused France to fall so quickly.
>>393353
Three major screw-ups that weakened Germany big time:
_They hit the USSR too early instead of wrapping things up in the west first, rookie mistake.
_Iran fell because of Reza shah's political and civil blunders (long story), which opened the way for the Allies to boost the Soviets directly and keep them alive.
_Operation Gunnerside, a bunch of commandos messed up Nazi Germany's nuke project. Pretty based.

Honestly, Pearl Harbor wasn't even needed for the U.S to get involved. They could have played their part quietly without going full "we declare war", but America wanted a bigger slice of the pie and played it more cautiously.
>>393354
Like I said, the U.S needed a passive false flag to justify grabbing a bigger piece of the pie and covering its own ass at the same time.
>>393355
What really matters is the intention and the spirit.
>>393357
>No one ever called him a liar once
Basically, he wasn't really telling any big lies. Whatever lies people blame him for mostly came from those around him, he just ended up being the face of the lies.

>>393358
I'd say 70% influence. Trump still has his own plan, though he kinda reminds me of Dutch's plans...
>>393359
America knows it can't just launch an attack like that. Right now, just wait... time will do the rest.
>>393360
Netanyahu is a dumbass, and Trump is trying to make him realize that and trust his plan, but he's doing it in a dumbass way too.
>>393361
Based, but he has chosen the worst possible path.
>>393362
I don't think Iran has the strongest navy, but it definitely has the trickiest. Fast small boats, naval mines, and drones give Iran high maneuverability against large, heavy American vessels, kind of like the U.K vs Spain in the Armada.
And honestly, I'm not sure, but aside from submarines, most surface fleets are pretty exposed and clear targets at sea. On the other hand, Iran's launchers in the southern part of the country can target them. As we know, israel hasn't launched major or widespread attacks on them(in south), and most of them haven't been directly threatened. Also, those launchers can fire more diverse missiles due to the shorter distance. I doubt the U.S would want to fight Iran in this kind of war. (Not to mention, this kind of war would likely trigger direct Chinese involvement.)
Also, I don't think there's even a need to destroy tankers. One of my acquaintances, who is a commercial ship captain, told me that tankers are so much more valuable than the oil they carry that even a slight risk of danger makes the owners keep them safe rather than take a chance and move the oil. They're extremely expensive, and just the threat of closing the strait of Hormuz or hitting even one tanker could freeze traffic entirely. Nobody would dare go through.
However, if Iran acts selectively and the U.S responds by stopping all ships, it could actually play in Iran's favor, because then it will appear, especially to Iran's allies, that Iran was the "reasonable" actor just trying to help, while the "bad guys" are harassing everyone. That could push friendly nations to take more active stances in support of Iran.
And yes, no one really benefits from closing the strait of Hormuz. The real fight is over who loses more.
If it really escalates, because of shared interests, this either turns into ww3, or if U.S pride breaks, they'll be forced to back down, though that seems unlikely.
Either way, if this war actually happens, it will harm israel the most, because their interests will suffer regardless. That's why they want regime change before any actual war.
Trump is trying to, as the saying goes, neither shoot, nor feed, nor free the bird, a kind of indecision just to buy time until the regime changes. But the big issue is that he misunderstands the Iranian people. They're not so stupid that they can't tell the difference between a political/regime threat and an existential/national one.
Iranians mostly fall into a gray zone(apolitical), tired of politics and more concerned about their usual lives.(plus, a regime born from revolution knows how to close off the same paths that brought it to power, so this regime won't fall easily, especially now that the people are more nationalistic).
Chances are, Trump won't be able to fully satisfy his own supporters either.
>One of my friends noticed, that for one of Nimitz–class carriers, which directed to Persian Gulf, this is last voyage. They scheduled replacement for 2026 year. Another Liberty-level happening possible.
I don't think the U.S wants to destroy that ship. A false flag would be the dumbest way to start a war. People are way more familiar with that concept now, and there's deep distrust about the reasons used to start wars. I don't think any justification would work well enough this time.
This war is already at a bad stage, and it's moving fast. I don't think it will end until something major happens.
Right now, everything depends on the next steps taken in the war. At this point, it looks like we're just preparing for round 2.
>your pic
In fact, this war also showed that the kikes, contrary to what they portray, aren't actually that smart. They only pretend to be intelligent in order to appear invincible.

>>393363
>I was quite impressed by this, but shamed at...
Actually, at the beginning, I didn't expect the opposition as a whole to become anti-israel.
I thought I would probably be one of the few people who, for national reasons, would be forced to side with the regime.
But then, things seemed to change. I'm a member of many telegram groups, both pro-regime and opposition. I'm fairly active in both.
I also have two twitter accounts, one tuned to show me mostly opposition content, and the other more from regime supporters.
The interesting thing was that in both accounts, suddenly about two-thirds of the opposition became strongly anti-israel and began defending the country.
The majority of these were liberals and nationalist republicans, monarchists were the least among them.
Of course, this is what I observed on twitter, on telegram, almost everyone was pro-Iran or at worst, remained silent.
It was rare to see anyone openly supporting the israeli attack, and when they did, they were usually heavily attacked by others.
In my opinion, twitter is full of cyber actors who amplify both sides, especially monarchists in the opposition, and also the regime's own media agents.
But one thing was clear: nearly all real monarchists changed their stance, and those whose opinions didn't change were usually copy-pasting coordinated talking points, often with a Star of David in their profile.
When I say regime change isn't possible right now, it's because during this war, many opposition members sided with Iran, while no one from the regime's side switched to support israel.
So basically, the number of pro-israel opposition shrank, and those who remained are just retweeting each other and repeating scripted messages to seem bigger than they really are. Their dishonesty is quite obvious.
We Iranians believe that people reveal their true selves during travel, but it turns out, war does that too.
This war showed the difference between a sincere opposition figure who loves Iran and a full-blown traitor.
Even my thermo professor, an extremely monarchist boomer who sometimes made political comments in class (no one ever reported him, everyone weren't that petty), surprised me.
I expected him to be sitting, waiting for the regime to collapse so the monarchy could return.
But a few days ago, when I had to get a report on an old paper from him, I found out he had stayed in Tehran the entire time.
I asked him: "Why didn't you leave the city for a while?"
He said: "Why should I? What's the news?"
I said: "Israel might have bombed your neighborhood."
He said: "So let them! The bastards think I'll abandon my home because of them?"
Then I asked: "Israel wants to crown Reza Pahlavi II as king. Why are you talking against israel?" (I wanted to test him).
He answered: "To hell with that! Yeah, sometimes Reza Pahlavi says stupid things, but since when do people like me need a bunch of foreigners to help us? What, we're crippled now?? This will pass, and Reza Pahlavi will understand that the only ones he can trust are his own people. We'll bring the king back by ourselves, not let a bunch of foreigners dare do it!"
Honestly, this was shocking and interesting to me, because he was extremely radical, and I didn't expect that kind of response.
But now I think other monarchists may think this way too.
And about you, I would say your gov is lucky to have such cowardly opposition.
This kind of opposition will never be able to change any regime.
>Do you heard about fourth generations of Ibn Khaldun?
Oh yes! One of my friends who studies sociology had told me about this topic.
Though I had almost forgotten it, thanks for the reminder.
And I think, in order to reverse or slow down this cycle, a war needs to happen at the right time and place. In such a case, civilization somehow recharges itself.
>Looks like Iran was attacked, when second generation of soldiers...
In fact, since they didn't attack the 4th generation, they ended up pushing the third generation closer to the second, and the second to the first.
As I mentioned before, this made Iranians more patriotic and aware.
Those sandniggers have never been true allies of Iran. They have proven themselves to be untrustworthy and cowardly, even from Iran's own perspective. Iran has never seriously counted on them. (In this very war, they were practically lined up behind the U.S and israel.)
Iraq is part of the same group. There's only Sistani, who supports Iran. Maybe, if he issues a fatwa, he could rally a large number of people to support Iran, but the biggest obstacle is the cowardly Iraqi gov.
(As I write this, you're now involved in a conflict with Azerbaijan.)
Azerbaijan has never had a good relationship with Iran. Many of israel's attacks came via Azerbaijan, and Azerbaijan is practically ZOG.
Even during the Armenia–Azerbaijan war, while Iran tried to remain neutral, it ultimately preferred Armenia, despite Azerbaijan being a "Muslim" country, due to ethnic and political reasons.
In reality, right now, Iran is on its own, just Iran and itself.

>>393363
I believe Iran has a kind of imperial spirit with a national-spiritual essence.
Iranians generally possess a particular pride and strong sense of identity, but this doesn't translate into arrogance or a superiority complex. It's something that has allowed various ethnic groups to live together peacefully while still preserving their own identities.
Just look at the image, these are the ethnicities that represent the majority and distribution of Iran's population (of course, there are also smaller subgroups not mentioned here).
In my opinion, this isn't something particularly difficult to understand. It might seem complicated for the west and the east, but I think that's because they tend to complicate simple matters and oversimplify complex ones. That's why so many people there are caught up in DEI issues, while Iranians, without making it a big deal, naturally resolved these matters years ago. It surprises outsiders that such issues aren't a concern within Iran.
I believe this stems from both a strength and a weakness of Iranians: we make friends easily and become enemies only with difficulty.
As a result, there's very little national hatred or collective resentment in Iran. When it exists, it's usually aimed at a specific individual or group. You would have to cause serious harm to be hated by Iranians as a whole.
For example, many Iranians say they "hate arabs", but in reality, they treat Arab individuals (and people of other ethnicities) quite kindly. If you ask them to clarify exactly which arabs they hate, most will point to govs and regimes, not the people themselves. The same goes for America. Don't pay too much attention to what the regime says or what your media shows. In truth, Iranians hold no special hatred toward the people of western or eastern countries.
Even those who chant "Death to America", if you ask them what exactly they mean by "America", you'll find that they're really cursing the U.S government, not its people. The same, to a large extent (unfortunately), applies to israel. During this war, many Iranians expressed concern that it would harm both themselves and israeli civilians, a kind of sympathy that, in my opinion, is misguided, because the people of israel don't share this feeling in return.
Of course, anti-kikes sentiments have been growing lately, but unfortunately, they haven't yet reached widespread acceptance.
No matter how hard the regime tries, it hasn't been able to manufacture true nationwide hatred through slogans alone. And if these foreign countries were to cease their hostility, threats, and sanctions for just one year, even the regime would be forced to abandon its slogans, because the few people still repeating them would lose interest.
Even now, you can noticeably see that the "Death to America" chants have declined, and there's more focus on "Death to israel." Hatred is now increasingly aimed at Trump rather than the whole of America.
This unique Iranian trait helps explain why the people of Iran don't hold deep grudges toward each other or toward their neighbors. If Iranians didn't have this characteristic, you would have seen something much harsher and more radical than Nazi Germany arise in Iran long ago, but that never happened.
In the end, I believe there's a special national and spiritual concept in Iran that enables Iranians to endure hardships with resilience.
(I had to use some complex words to better convey my point.)

>>393363
>It's quite sad, that Russia don't have political culture of protests like Iran or France...
In fact, we're somewhere in the middle.
We usually protest only when it really hurts, whether civil protests or labor strikes. (Although labor protests do happen more often.)
Honestly, whenever you see us protesting, it means the knife has hit the bone and we can't stand it any longer.
We're always amazed by the protests in europe(like in Paris or Brussels) over the smallest issues. We joke that if we acted like them, we would be out in the streets protesting every single day!
Labor strikes rarely turn into full-scale uprisings here, and unlike europeans, we don't usually aim fire hoses at government buildings! Most of our protests are peaceful, and after a few days or weeks(if we get serious enough) the blind gov might finally wake up and do something.
But civil protests are something else entirely. The 2009, 2019, and 2022–23 uprisings are prime examples. They're far more intense and fundamental, but unfortunately they always get hijacked by selfish insiders and foreign actors. At first, these movements are genuinely grassroots and full of hope for real regime change, but after a while, opportunists looking to make a quick profit, plus outside interference, steer them off course. That repels the regular people and leaves only a bunch of hormonal keyboard warriors or 2-digit IQ hustlers.
The regime plans for this, so protests lose their true legitimacy and become pointless. I keep reminding myself: never let foreigners meddle in our affairs (because it's none of their business), and never let opportunists exploit our demonstrations. You must keep protests clean and truly popular, something that sadly didn't happen.
Of course, we don't have a real, home-grown political leader. So in every protest, some clown (see the pic) issues a "declaration" and crowns himself the self-appointed leader, even though he has zero ability, doesn't live in Iran, has no real connection to our people's suffering, and literally has no agency of his own. (He even kissed the wailing wall!)
So without a real leader, our protests always end up mocked and dismissed.
A leader must be among the people, within society and the country, and must have experienced the hardships of the people.
As a famous Iranian rapper once said: The more crushed the flower, the stronger the scent.
Personal anecdote from the December 2022 "Three-day call to protest" (Dec 5–7):
On the first night, I went out and realized most of the people ready to protest were just a bunch of naive, excited teenagers. I tried to guide them, telling them not to pick a needless fight with riot police, but instead to draw more people into the demonstrations. They didn't care. When tear gas hit, we had to set a trash can on fire just to keep the gas from reaching us.
One of them suddenly shouted a profanity against islam in the middle of our chants. I grabbed his mouth and threatened, "With that crap, you’re only insulting people's beliefs and driving them away. Grow up and stick to relevant slogans, if you say bullshit again, I'll throw you into that flaming bin and let you burn with it." That calmed things down for a bit, and a few people attracted by sounds and the firelight joined us. But then some idiots pulled out fireworks to throw at the police and escalate things further. I tried stopping them(cause needless violence only scares people off) but they wouldn't listen. Soon enough, one guy lobbed a firecracker at the cops, then the rest did the same. The police charged in and arrested many of us. I managed to slip away, but after that night I realized these protests had become ridiculous and completely off-track. I stayed home for the next two days and rest of it.
Later, seeing how a bunch of sleazy opportunists tried to cash in on the movement, I knew it was dead and had zero chance of succeeding.
>Thanks to war connections between nation and government...
Yes, every regime prefers for a war to happen so it can present itself as being in the right. The same applies to us as well.
>>393365
He completely misunderstood what I said, and you also didn't really get what he meant.
But anyway, the reason Iran is so often mentioned in the media is mostly because of its impact on regional and global politics, which is often brought up by your politicians and echoed in your media.
When ordinary people talk about Iran, they don't really know much about it, only what their politicians have told them.
This trillion-dollar glasses is on most people's eyes.
Maybe Iran gets talked about 15 times more than Indonesia, but people honestly know just as little about Iran as they do about Indonesia.
>>393370
>>393374
As I said, it was a passive false flag.
>>393371
Kinda feel bad for him. He wants to do something, but he doesn't really know how to do it.
>>393376
>>393380
Take this as a piece of advice from me:
In this war, both sides are censoring their own losses, so it's really hard to say who's actually taking the bigger hit, maybe Iran, maybe israel. But in my opinion, when israel pushes the U.S to get directly involved, it means something serious must have happened that forced israel's hand. I just want to keep that in mind, but I don't want to rush to judgment.
Maybe...
>>393377
Never trust Turks. They can never be truly reliable. That's why Iran prefers Armenia.