/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Hello everyponer.
There are hundreds of charlatans and self-titled "analysts" talking about current international events, most of them are total shysters and have no freaking idea of what they are talking about. But the below guy Martyanov has been always on target, even years in advance, like he peers into the future. In the following interview he describes what are the most likely scenarios for Iran and USA. Also he tells about details on weaponry and inner government squabbles.
I recommend him.

WW3? Will USA Attack Iran? - Andrei Martyanov LIVE Russian military expert - AU 390
[YouTube] USA & Israel v Iran! Escalation to WW3? - Andrei Martyanov LIVE Russian military expert - AU 390 [Embed]

(((British))) chutzpah.
Send the Air Force One to fly us back to England.

>>393064
Fuck off, we're full.

>>392216
>>392956
I think, Israeli air campaign is purely opportunistic and media focused:
- Gulf war, 18M population, ??? GDP PPP -- 1100 fighters, 1600 combat sorties daily, 62% strikes, 35 days
- Libyan war, 6.5M population, 135B GDP PPP -- ??? fighters, 118 combat sorties daily, 42% strikes, 220 days
- Syrian war, 18M population, 141B GDP PPP -- 60 fighters, 80 combat sorties daily, 53% strikes, 720 days
- Ukrainian war, 33M population, 590B GDP PPP -- 200 fighters, 200 combat sorties daily, 40-60% strikes, >1200 days
- Iranian war, 86M population, 1600B GDP PPP -- 100-200 fighters, 100-200 combat sorties daily, 40-60% strikes

During first months of Ukrainian war Russian air forces makes about 30% of damage to enemy (0.8/2.6 million 152mm HE shell equivalent monthly). The whole NATO can maintain about 350-700 combat sorties daily with 20-30% SEAD sorties and 40-60% strike sorties inside Iranian borders, because of logistic limitations, especially refuelling. They need to restore reserve aircrafts, train technical personnel, build more airfields, gather supplies, spend about 1-2 years on preparation. You just can't expect any result with 20% of necessary air forces without ground support against such Leviathan.

Israeli air campaign looks like some sort of distraction/support for coup attempt. They can't gather more opposition, agents and resources inside Iran, their capabilities starting to decrease. So why not try even with 5% chance to success, if otherwise this chance will be decreased rapidly in following years. This similar to first stage of Ukrainian war: rapid escalation with small chances of success, because why not, if alternative is bad anyway.

Chronology:
- 19 May 2024 -- Iranian president Raisi was killed in helicopter crash.
- 26 June 2024 -- Iran finish railroad between Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf.
- 19 May 2025 -- Railroad between Iran and China was finished (15 days vs 30 days through Malacca)
- 13 June 2025 -- Attack on Iranian Revolutionary Guards command structure with support of Bahai cult agents.

>>393063
>Andrei Martyanov
Air defense retiree officer who translates ideas from aftershock.news and global aventure project (quite popular forums for our government-related boomers). He lives in Seattle from early 2000s. A little version of Douglas MacGregor. Actually not bad, I listen some of his speeches during first stage of Ukrainian war, but he is too focused around USA politics instead of military expertise.

About Russian-Iranian military alliance. Maybe possible. Kikes operations rapidly activates here. Right now they trying to blackmail friend of my party through head of a university to make pro-kikery article about war. He is expert of oriental studies and they just activate team in university to disturb his department. They were waiting during Gaza war, they were waiting during Lebanon campaign, but attacks immediately after 16 June. Also, they threaten logistic companies with Iranian contractors.

Quite sad, if Russia cast aside our beneficial neutrality. Currently we have 2/3 economy under control of state corporations, but 1/3 GDP and significant part of civil government still in jewish hands. In recent two decades we replaced them slowly without losses and unnecessary blood. Not because of morality, just lost generation and lack of trusted specialists.

>>393000
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>>393079
>About Russian-Iranian military alliance. Maybe possible. Kikes operations rapidly activates here.

There is some normie brainstorming on it.
>The Presidents of Russia and China Announce the Cardinal Points of the Obvious
https://www.unz.com/article/the-presidents-of-russia-and-china-announce-the-cardinal-points-of-the-obvious/

But if the kikery in the White House and Kremlin is to be noticed, then Rolo Slavskiy won't disappoint.
>Putin Will Save Iran Any Day Now!
https://slavlandchronicles.substack.com/p/putin-will-save-iran-any-day-now
>Why Do Illiterate Conspiracy Kooks and Cranks (bad) Think Putin (patriot!) is a Traitor to Russia?
https://slavlandchronicles.substack.com/p/why-do-illiterate-conspiracy-kooks

>>393081
>But if the kikery in the White House and Kremlin is to be noticed, then Rolo Slavskiy won't disappoint.
Some snippets.

>>393082
Putin is a famous jew-lover. He collect comically worst kikes, allows them to make shows on tv and have their own economic projects. If you are absurdly incompetent jew, you will be welcomed. Otherwise, definitely not. If you can't overcome worst filth of the essenes tribe, how can you expect victory against noble ones? As wine-maker say: "Vine should suffer."

>>392529
>>392956
>Somewhere between Qazvin and Hamadan (120 km from border), if they use SDB with 80-120 km range
Confirmed.

Some details:
- All active Iranian airforces was hidden before war.
- Two destroyed F-14 (Tehran airport) actually disassembled in 2022-2023.
- One destroyed Boeing 707 refuelling tanker (Mashhad airport) active craft.
- 6-10 cobra helicopters (Kermanshah airport) disassembled and under repair.

Second article about war:
https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/1242640.html

>>393089
Those vintage airplanes…

IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING!

>>393094
God fucking damnit!

>>393094
Trump addressing the nation live momentarily
https://www.youtube.com/live/C7eSJ011Muc

From one of comments

>>393094
22 June 1941 4:00 AM. Date when German aircrafts bomb USSR and The Great War was started.

>>393099
Same than USA. Society is divided and one faction wants the destruction of the other.

The Jews in Occupied Palestine are not crying out to their Messiah for help, but to the USA.

>The chosen ones are fleeing the “promised land” and go home all over the world! #iran
[YouTube] The chosen ones are fleeing the “promised land” and go home all over the world! #iran [Embed]
This video is satire and pure gold. The victim card is denied.

>>393104
That's cause they don't have one

It's impossible to invade Iran, that's why regime change must come from the inside.

>>392216
Make a song, anon!
https://files.catbox.moe/g9josv.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/63p1xy.zip

>Israel genocides Gaza.
>Israel surprise attacks Iran during negotiations.
>Trump, against the NPT, demands zero enrichment
Now Trump get on TV and calls Iran a bully.
This is exactly what is meant by gaslighting. Its a narcissistic trait.
>Don't believe your lying eyes.

>>393111
>gaslighting
>Its a narcissistic trait
Checked.
Given that Trump is an actor playing his role, I'm wondering if when he reads from the teleprompter the speech written by the jew; gaslighting gets turbo charged.

Oh God!!! You guys posted so much!
I just managed to connect to the international internet with the help of one of my IT friends.
I think I need to catch up on all the content I missed over the past few days first, and then spam the thread with a bunch of messages in a few hours.
It finally worked!
(Right, I'm the Iranian guy)

Putin was asked why he is not assisting Iran.
His response: “Israel today is almost a Russian-speaking country, two million people from the Soviet Union and Russia live there. We take that into account.”

>>393123
Welcome back.

>>393094
>We have completed our very successful attack
>All planes are now outside of Iran air space
>NOW IS TIME FOR PEACE
What a piece of propaganda crap.
1- The American media was talking about bunker-buster bombs which is absurd. The American planes launched missiles from outside the air defense bubble protecting Iran and they cannot penetrate any subterranean installation. Missiles are too small and their payload is tiny for the task required.
2- No American plane entered the Iranian air space because is a suicidal mission. It would require an air campaign of days if not weeks to destroy radar installations and air defense missile launchers, before regular bombers can flight inside Iran without being shot down.
3- Declaring victory and claiming of looking for peace is baloney, the refueling air tankers that flew from America to Europe were moved for a reason, the long bombing campaign described above is already planned and is waiting to start.

>>393124
Trump just declared a war. 22 June 4:00 AM. This is fucking serious.

>>393128
It's just a police action; nothing need come of it.

>>393129
quite well done.

>>393130
You are not understand. Just imagine, if Trump burn bible on live broadcast. This is equivalent of 22 June 4:00 AM bombing. I was participate in 9 may parade in one of southern cities, we have some kind of ancestors cult "The eternal regiment", when descendants of war veterans carry photos of grandfathers. So, I just stand near the street with stop-watch and count up number of citizens in procession. Thousands and thousands, 25% of city population with relatives, killed in Great War. Just imagine this number. And now Trump spit in face every single of them.

This is not just challenge, this is crusade from now.

>>393133
Nope, I am not understand.

we didn't declare war, we fixed a problem. It should be done now. All Persia needs to do is stop trying to vaporize the world and we can be done now.

>this is crusade
Whelp, it was nice knowing you then. Bye.

>>393130
>>393134
You are a fool.

>>393135
There's a lot more going on than what you're willing to take notice of.
Iran was set up by Killary; part of the U1 scandal that Comey will have to answer for later. This step was needed to cut off the tumor we'd let grow, blinded by the fake-news mainstream.
A lot of terrible open-secrets will need to be cleaned up to free the Iranians to fight for their freedom to be Persia again. No, that's not our deal but we're part of the problem, and Trump has been chosen by the People to make it actually happen.

>>393136
>Iran was set up by Killary; part of the U1 scandal that Comey will have to answer for later.
I don't care.
>This step was needed to cut off the tumor we'd let grow
Israel is a bigger tumor. Bomb them instead.
>blinded by the fake-news mainstream.
You use right wing terminology like buzzwords, but your words are poison. Glow harder.
>A lot of terrible open-secrets will need to be cleaned up to free the Iranians to fight for their freedom to be Persia again.
None of our business.
>we're part of the problem
Don't care.
>Trump has been chosen by the People to make it actually happen
This is not what we voted for. Fuck off with your Bush-era neocon globohomo faggotry.

>>393137
>don't care.
Then stop talking as if you did.

>This is not what we voted for.
I voted for freedom. You glow.

>>393138
>Then stop talking as if you did
No. I will speak however I please. I care about the USA not getting involved in sandnigger wars, especially not for the protection of Jews.
>I voted for freedom. You glow.
Lol, lmao even. Shill harder glowie.

>>393130
You Glownigger chucklefucks couldn't even beat the Taliban after 20 years of fighting.
The result of your war with Iraq was ISIS.
And now you want us to believe that ama war with a country 8 times the size of Iraq will go smoothly? For Israel's benefit?
You sit on a throne of lies. Fuck off.

>>393139
>I will speak however I please
I don't care if you speak, I care if you lie to yourself. You do care.

>Shill harder
I posit that MLPOL, of all places, is not for circle jerking. It is for open consideration.

And we've been the source of sandnigger aggression for a long, long time. It needs to be done right, because of the lies used to get them built up.

>>393140
>couldn't even beat the Taliban
That's mostly because we were paying them. Trump shut them down in his first term by cutting off their supply of tax money.

>war with a country 8 times the size of Iraq
There's no war; at least not from the US - Europe might take offense, the globohomos won't go down quietly, but that bombing wasn't a war, it was a warning.

>You sit on a throne of lies. Fuck off.
That's rich. Also, again, this is MLPol. Its okay if we disagree with each other.

>>393141
>You do care.
I literally could not care less about Iran.
I would be thrilled if Israel were destroyed though, so I guess I care about that.
>I posit that MLPOL, of all places, is not for circle jerking. It is for open consideration.
Glowpigs like you show up to shill every time Israel is in major news. Do you get a budget boost every time that happens?
>And we've been the source of sandnigger aggression for a long, long time.
Yes, like funding Israel. Stop funding Israel.
>It needs to be done right, because of the lies used to get them built up
It doesn't need to be done at all. Let Israel fend for itself.
Or better, destroy Israel. That is the one war I would support.
>That's mostly because we were paying them. Trump shut them down in his first term by cutting off their supply of tax money.
I know how it happened, you nitwit. Point still stands.
>There's no war; at least not from the US
Bombing someone is an act of war.
If Russia bombed the USA, but didn't declare war, would you call it a war?
>the globohomos won't go down quietly
>globohomos
You are a disgraceful parasite, spitting buzzwords without knowing their meaning.
Get better material.
>That's rich. Also, again, this is MLPol. Its okay if we disagree with each other.
Sure, you can disagree, and I will call you out every time.
Sit tight on that throne. You're kind will be eradicated.

>>393142
>If Russia bombed the USA, but didn't declare war, would you call it a war?
Depends on what happened the next day. We might declare war on them, but if nobody declared war, and no other bombings happened, it was just posturing.
You've never gotten punched for walking out of a bar? That's not a fight if the other person just keeps walking.

>you are kind will
So close. SO close.

>>393143
>You've never gotten punched for walking out of a bar? That's not a fight if the other person just keeps walking.
Punching someone is provoking a fight.
It really is true, isn't it? The Jew really does cry out in pain as he strikes you.

The Seinfeld days are over, kike. Your tricks don't work on us anymore.

https://www.jns.org/iaea-no-radiation-spike-after-iran-nuclear-site-strikes/
The U.S. may well have wasted most of their inventory of the largest conventional bombs ever made and failed to do anything significant.

>>393123
I'm so glad to see you again. Any insider news? Pretty please! We are starving here.

I'm trying to make timeline of bombings and air defense activities to determine main vector of attack, structure of air operation and number of active aircrafts per day. I gather some data from 4chan (news + timing), but I have only one friend who can confirm/deny from Iranian sources.

Table:
https://paste.debian.net/plainh/ced6bbe4

>>393148
>I'm trying to make timeline of bombings and air defense activities
>and air defense activities
That info can get irananon executed very fast.

>>393149
>That info can get irananon executed very fast.
That is a sacrifice that Israel is willing to make.

But, seriously, I mean Air Raid Alarms, like Ukrainian ones. Actually very usefull data.

That's an odd thing to say.

...so that happened.

>>393159
What happened?

>>393126
>The American planes launched missiles from outside the air defense bubble protecting Iran and they cannot penetrate any subterranean installation. Missiles are too small and their payload is tiny for the task required.
Confirmed. America shot 30 old Tomahawk missiles. It was all a propaganda operation.
>the refueling air tankers that flew from America to Europe were moved for a reason
Confirmed. American planes are massing in Saudi Arabia. War is going to get real soon.

PUTIN EXPLAINS SITUATION WITH IRAN:
- Iran agreement does not have a defense clause
- Iran does not ask Russia for help
- Iran did not want to cooperate with Russia on air defense previously

Iran fights the fight alone, they’re proud and want to be self reliant.

jewess influencer who mocked Palestinian victims gets bombed by Iran, her home got destroyed.

>>393166
Karmas coming home to roost.

>>392216
>>393078
I noticed one thing. They always trying to show that you are nothing, but take a look at their operations: false flags, elections frauds, distraction and assassination. Almost entirely psychological warfare, the cheapest form of war. Maybe they just don't have resources for other kinds of war?

I know 4 types of warfare:
- War of Ares -- military campaign, intimidation.
- War of Athena -- trade war, blockade, war of attrition.
- War of Apollo -- psychological warfare, ideology, media.
- War of Venus -- reproduction, education, replacement, genocide.

Main difference between types of warfare not methods, but time. War of Ares is blitzkrieg. War of Athena may last for years to strangle enemy economy. War of Apollo lasts through decades to reprogramming next generation. War of Venus erase nations through hundreds of years.

During 19th and early 20th century Old Europe was extremely effective in war of Ares/Athena/Apollo, but underestimated Venus aspect and fail miserable to growing USA and USSR. The Cold War was mostly war of Athena and USSR expected victory after Vietnam, because of oil crisis and better energy efficacy, but suddenly makes a row of bad decisions, lost economical war tempo and fail to western media. Contrary to general opinion, fail of Soviet Union was based not on economical problems, but on ideological treachery.

Early 21th century was period of almost pure psychological warfare: social networks, color revolutions. Every single western military campaign was supported by fifth column on the ground with small number of high-tech aviation and economical pressure. Only after 2020s Russia turn the tide to traditional military confrontation and USA with China recently show us classical trade war. I think, during 2020s psychological operations will be transformed from major offensive instrument to support role in military warfare. During stormy 2030s Ares and Athena will prevails with predominance of Ares aspect.

Combination of Shahed drones for long-range barrage and FPV-drones for tactical defense returned warfare to early 20th century. Drone warfare revolution just like artillery revolution during World War 1. Difference in distances. We don't need strongpoints to control frontline, now we have 5-10 km of dead zone between sides and less than 15 soldiers per square kilometer in following 50 km zone. Heavy vehicles almost useless: you can breach line, but you can't hide your tanks without prepared shelters in following days. FPV-drone teams on civilian cars have much better mobility and camouflage. Combined arms battalion even worse than infantry battalion because of more engineering preparations and hardest logistics (shells+artillery+fuel 10 times heavier than drones+car with equal efficacy). Offense too costly compared to war of attrition, but armies must be numerous to endure losses and psychological pressure of drone warfare.

Modern country can draft 5% population maximum (25% of healthy mans). For 10 million Israel army limited by 0.5 million. This is enough for 600 km frontline, but Israel has horrible borders with neglible strategical depth. This is why jews so desperately trying to secure borders of their holy country and weaken every single competitor in region. They just don't have numbers for war of Ares and influence on nearest factions to make muslims fight for them. With air support of 100-200 combat sorties daily Israel can't endure pressure of 0.5 million army with bases in Iraq and Syria, with 2000 FPV-drone teams, 8 millions of FPV-drone strikes and 400k loses with 80k KIA during year-long war. Russia can train such number of Iranian drone teams in 2 years and 8 million of drones means just 200k ton of munition, which can be transported easily through Iran-China railroad (though 0.5 million army logistics with 200-300k ton/month other supplies through Iraq and Syria under airstrikes will be much more tricky than Israeli sea logistics).

I think jews considered threat of drone warfare very seriously and ready to any treachery to harm Iran just because of Iran-China railroad. Egypt can be blocked and starved, Turkey can be blocked and politically unstable, but Iran has two secured supply routes with China and Russia. If USA starts military campaign to block South China Sea, Israel will be in peril, because it is weak spot for american jews.

BREAKING NEWS: IRAN ATTACKED U.S' BASES IN QATAR!!!

>>393169
Six missiles, all intercepted.
Big deal.

If only the jews weren't so hasty in bribing their way to holding jerusalem, they wouldn't have to stress themselves over irate muslims every day. I reckon living in half-glassed desert for a whole century has really dented the minds of the people there.

No joke, I'm really starting to think Trump is "خدازده"! (Persian term)
Why the fuck did he say this??! Does he still hope to win the nobel peace prize???
He says once he doesn't want to go to war, then says he won't go to war for two weeks, then says Iran needs to come back to the negotiations, then says the regime in Iran has to be changed, then says peace has to happen. And now he's acting like everything's over with a happy ending. Does no one drug test this guy? This isn't some multi-dimensional chess anymore, Trump's trying to fool Iran, Israel, Europe, America, his own cabinet, and even himself! I swear, Trump's playing checkers with chess pieces or something!

>>393175
Welp, if this doesn't earn him the Nobel Peace Prize then nothing will.

>>393176
Honestly, in my opinion, the nobel peace prize is the dumbest nobel award and just makes the whole scientific foundation look like a joke. But Trump can't just attack Iran (not even with a false flag) and then suddenly end the war all at once.
If anyone can start a war and then say they want peace, so does that mean if, say, Khamenei suddenly declares peace, he's suddenly a nobel peace prize candidate? I think Trump totally blew his chance, and the peace prize isn't *that* dumb anymore to give it to someone as controversial as him.

>>393177
Yeah, but they gave one to Obama simply because he wasn't George W. Bush.

>>393175
>Why the fuck did he say this?
>He says once he doesn't want to go to war, then says he won't go to war for two weeks, then says Iran needs to come back to the negotiations, then says the regime in Iran has to be changed, then says peace has to happen.
My suspicion is advanced schizophrenia powered by dope.

>>393175
PEACE through RAPE
>>393166
she was definately tempting fate there lol

>>393175
Because he's a fat retarded annoying orange schizo, you do know that right?

Alright anons, I was working on a few long-ass replies to cover most of the earlier posts, but for now I gotta drop some takes in this critical moment:
First off, I always saw this war with the U.S as some gay slap-fight, but the one with Israel is at least a bit more serious.
Right now, neither Iran nor Israel really has decent air defense. Israel, with all its bragging about "iron dome this, iron beam that" is getting smacked around and can't even intercept most of Iran's incoming stuff. So basically this war has turned into a no-guard boxing match, and here's the kicker:
Everyone kinda knows that in a war of attrition, Iran wins in the long run. Israel's small. No depth, no real capacity for prolonged direct warfare like Iran does.
So when Israel felt the heat, it dragged the U.S in. And what did America do? A gay little show strike, hit a couple empty nuclear sites, and we're not even sure if they hit anything important. Iran then responded with its own show strike, hitting America's biggest base in the region, which was also empty.
(For >>393171 ,a few missiles hit something, there's footage going around despite the censorship, but still, not much effect. Just theater.)
IMO, Trump's trying to toss the ball into Iran's court, pretending like he's not the one escalating, but it's laughable.
I'd say there's a 98% chance Iran won't go for peace (2% chance they might, cause let's be real, Iran's got some dumbass politicians who might fall for the bait). Trump probably still doesn't get how nationalist Iran is right now, he thinks Iranians are just gonna chill and be grateful or something.
My prediction: Trump wants to stall things and give Israel time to recover (even though numerically, Israel took more damage). But unlike Israel, Iran doesn't live off foreign taxpayers' money. So the U.S will probably push for internal regime change, more likely than a direct strike. That's the most realistic scenario if Iran falls into that 2%.
As of now, Iran most likely won't accept peace and will keep going, probably without hitting the U.S again, instead doubling down on attrition against Israel. And even if the U.S goes full rogue and assassinates Khamenei, whether peace happens or not, I don't think the regime falls. His more radical son would likely take over and might even order an actual nuke strike.
And if they take out his son too? Then it's game over, Iran becomes a straight-up pissed-off military regime, even more dangerous for Israel.
Honestly, I think the reason Khamenei hasn't been taken out yet is because both the U.S and Israel know he's been the one guy stopping an all-out atomic war.
So yeah, it all comes down to whether Iran chooses that 2% or the 98%.

>>393183
You're riding khamenei's cock too much, he's not that much of a keeping things cool guy he's no different than his son or other iranian generals

>>393179
We're talking about the nobel foundation here. A democrat or someone on the left has always had a better shot at winning than a republican or anyone on the right. The nobel is so left-leaning, they wouldn't give that prize to Trump even under normal circumstances, let alone now!

>>393184
I don't think you actually know my stance on this guy. Scroll up and see who’s been criticizing him, that was me.
The only reason our interests align right now is because we share a common enemy. Otherwise, under normal circumstances, I genuinely hate him. Even now, I'd rather see him assassinated than see Israel get threatened by someone even more radical.
Also, don't argue with someone you clearly know less than. I even know the difference between him and his son. You arabs will never know more than an Iranian about another Iranian, especially when the topic is an Iranian.
So please, in this particular case, just shut up and accept that this man's existence is in Israel's favor. Otherwise, Israel would've taken him out already.

>>393186
>accept that this man's existence is in Israel's favor. Otherwise, Israel would've taken him out already.
Do you think i haven't already realized that? Enmity between iran and israel is just kid's play, if anything they're allies
Us arabs have known this for decades and most iranians aren't even able to comprehend it, silly

>>393175
>And now he's acting like everything's over with a happy ending
Better than the alternative.

>>393186
>>393187
I like you both.

>>393189
I like you too swedebro

>>393183
There were always going to be breaches of Israel's defenses, because Irans chief military tactic is "swarming", where they routinely launch out-sized attacks with multiple cheap platforms (drones, rockets, small boats, etc.) in the hopes of overwhelming the enemy's defenses and getting some of the attack through. It's tough on their resources, of course, which is why they are likely to accept the cease-fire, so they have time to re-arm.

>>393175
keyfabe.
You are watching a movie.

>>393194
>Kabuki Theater
Well, the theory that they are ALL playing in the same team and performing a show for the masses is getting more real.

>>393187
Silly???
You are the sillies to think this way. What exactly have the arabs known for decades?! You don't even know yourselves!
In the six-day War, almost all of you arabs were defeated by Israel, with your ridiculous pan-arabist spirit! What happened? Why is that spirit gone? Why don't you support the palestinian arabs anymore? Why does Iran, a non-arab country, support them more than you arabs do? (Of course, if you think Iran supports palestine solely out of compassion, you are seriously mistaken! Palestine is a pawn and a pretext for Iran's influence, but I cannot ignore that fortunately(or unfortunately) we have been a compassionate people even for you fools.)
So what happened that in your arab culture you betray each other so easily?! Don't tell me you want to say palestine is no longer arab? Or maybe your arab sheikhs have gotten so fat from oil money that they prefer to abandon their ideals?
You arabs know (I don't think you're so foolish as to not understand this simple point), but you even betray your own ideals, and you know it. Yet you try to fool yourselves into thinking that this is better and smarter! Yes, for now your countries are not collapsing because you are getting fat off oil money. But suppose, for example, Iran closes the strait of Hormuz for a month, your sheikhs would go crazy! You would tear each other apart! Every tribe and faction would divide your countries because your money would be running out!
And now you think you're really in a good position? You have officially become America's colony! Even with all those big and lucrative deals, you couldn't convince Trump to call the Persian Gulf the "Fucking Arabian Gulf." You have been literally fucked by American bases and companies, but you prefer to live in your fragile palaces. Arab independence has been dead for a long time. Just last night it was proven that you arabs only need to see a few missiles in the sky and, like your semitic cousins, you scream and run away! (Watch the video, idiot!) Even Sadam and the Iraqis(who, because of their relative closeness to Iranians, have somewhat more dignity than the rest of you arabs) couldn't defeat the Iranians, who had just changed government and were mired in internal conflicts and sanctions, despite all foreign support. In the end, this symbol of your pan-arabism fucked his own people more than anyone else and was fucked himself.
Your regime is just a picture of money, behind which structural corruption, a class system, and poverty exist that you cannot properly cover up.
And the moment you become useless to America, you will easily be discarded and perish with your arrogant stupidity.
And by the way, Iran and Israel allies??! You're really an idiot!
Iran, throughout almost its entire history, has never had a serious relationship with the jews. We freed them, and in return, they celebrate Purim (although the book of Esther is easily found to have historical inaccuracies and is unreliable, but the important thing is that your semitic cousins still celebrate Purim and believe in it). Even many Iranian opposition groups have problems with jews (I will talk about Iranian opposition in the future). Even that fool (Reza Pahlavi 2) tries to have relations with Israel simply because it is the enemy of his enemy. Even his father opposed Israel and only due to American pressure was forced to have relations with it, which was one of the reasons for the revolution against him. The word "Jew"(یهودی) in Iranian culture has always had a negative connotation, and the regime had to eventually replace it with the word "Kalimi" (کلیمی) so people would have less negative attitudes toward the few jews in Iran. In reality, Iran has never been allied with Israel, being allied with Israel is meaningless because they are people who always look down on others, and this is incompatible with the Iranian spirit that refuses to compromise with them.
Now you try to justify that by opposing Israel, the regime gave Israel an excuse for more infiltration and war. You arabs always want to find a reason, even if you have to pull it out of your ass! If Iran cooperated, you would say Iran helps Israel, so they are allies. If Iran stayed neutral, you would say Iran indirectly supports Israel willingly. If Iran opposes, you say Iran gives Israel an excuse, so they are allies. In every case, you say your ridiculous nonsense. But have you ever looked at yourselves??! You have officially become Israel's servants, trampled on your ideals, and even betrayed your own sects (and even abandoned your sunni ideology!). You pretend to oppose Israel, but you maintain relations with it and empower it, and when Iran attacks Israel, you shut up because you are cowards! In the end, Israel with its "fucking greater Israel" dream invades half of your arab lands and you do nothing.
Of course, if you think Iranians do not know you arabs, you are seriously mistaken, fools!
Almost all Iranians hate you arabs (they have no problem with the Arabs of Khuzestan, because they are honorable Iranians who stood against your pan-arabism in the Iran-Iraq war), and know that you are slaves to money and pleasure!
There is a story that says a jew, an Iranian, and an arab are given money. The Iranian uses the money to make weapons and armor and strengthen his city. The jew uses the money to expand his trade and make more money. And the arab uses the money to buy goods from the jew and lives in the Iranian city, pays taxes to him, and wastes all his time on pleasure and laziness.
Yes, this is your essence! That's why when Iran's oil was priced in triple digits and it sold a lot, it used that money to strengthen other industries and advance its existence, like this nuclear thing (although I will later talk about some mistakes and my views on alternatives), but you arabs, instead of developing your real infrastructure, are only focused on appearances. In the end, your oil will run out and you will be overthrown.

>>393188
Sorry, but you remind me of those dinosaurs who looked up at the sky and said how beautiful that meteor was.
Just because Trump acts, doesn't mean his intentions are truly what they seem. Even right now, if peace happens, Israel has more than enough excuses to bleed you Americans dry for "damages", and then prepare for the next attack and the next round of expenses, on your dime.
The survival of Israel is actually against your own interests.
Just saying…

>>393189
Thanks, anon.
And I'm happy you didn't take it serious, These are just some argument and explaining some obvious points to the other side.

>>393191
What you're saying makes sense, but I'll say it again, I don't think Iran will accept. Though, it depends.

>>393192
>>393194
>>393195
Yes, as I said, I expected the war between Iran and the U.S to be mostly theatrical. Even Israel didn't expect that. But Trump has gotten too caught up in the show. Talking about peace was way too early.

>>393197
>Just because Trump acts, doesn't mean his intentions are truly what they seem.
I don't care about intentions. I just don't want to get dragged into any more wars. I don't care if he looks obnoxious and retarded, so long as it ends here.
>Even right now, if peace happens, Israel has more than enough excuses to bleed you Americans dry for "damages", and then prepare for the next attack and the next round of expenses, on your dime.
They would do that no matter what the circumstances.
>The survival of Israel is actually against your own interests.
I know that. I hope they all die.

>>393201
Well yes, I'm definitely glad that at least I'm not going to fight people who themselves don't believe in this war. But at the same time, I know that in the end, Trump won't act in your favor. This is probably just to please some MAGA supporters before he wants to use them again. What matters is the outcome, and I don't think it will be a good one... But in any case, let's hope this conflict stays between the jews and the Iranians. Personally, I prefer no other country gets involved in my war.

>>393196
Thanks anon, I learned more about Iran from your posts than from hours of lectures.

>>393194
Sad story, actually. One of my friends and poner, who scanned and translated rare military manuals for me was killed on the opposite side. And another one run from Ukraine to Israel before war. Pint of Jewish blood and providence saved him at that time, but no one know for how long. This spiral of escalation dragged us too low and no one ready to stop, or at least show some mercy to enemy, since each side already spend too much efforts to victory in this war. And this is mostly Russian fault, because of our initial arrogance and still lasting disrespect.

>>393201
>I hope they all die.
I'm not. Despite my personal attitude, I was worried about Jewish future. I know, they deserve no more mercy that they show to Palestinians, but Putin was right when he called Israel Russian-speaking country. And now they are hated everywhere on the world, even Americans almost ready to gas another 6 million kikes. And even in this situation they don't show any nobility, just more arrogance. Ending is predictable, but still sad.

At least, it will be hilarious, when our media kikes who run to Israel from the prison-of-nations will be forced to run back to our patient and merciful Jew-loving fuhrer.

>>393205
Good to hear that, anon. As I said, I'll talk more about Iran in the future days. I think it may help you, or anyone else want to know about it. I haven't said about a lot of things, yet.

>>393205
>I was worried about Jewish future.
Me too. There is a very probable chance some of them will escape execution and survive.
F

Surprised London hasn't torn itself apart yet tbh.

>>393208
It will, just be patient.

>>393196
The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture, methodology and can rant about it for you for hours, and some people are just whiney peckeys who want to find negatives in arabs like (You)
>In the six-day War, almost all of you arabs were defeated by Israel, with your ridiculous pan-arabist spirit! What happened? Why is that spirit gone?
Because pan-arabism is a dead retarded ideology, arab leaders have learned to not fuck with israel a long time ago
>Why don't you support the palestinian arabs anymore?
We literally do though? We send them humanitarian aid all the time
>Why does Iran, a non-arab country, support them more than you arabs do?
Iran sees palestine as nothing but a tool that serves their interests, if they really care for palestine then they would've already sent their own forces to die and fight for palestinian soil but they didn't, all they can do is give their puppet militants in foreign countries some guns and rockets because they're cowards who are afraid of having a real face to face ground war with israel
>(Of course, if you think Iran supports palestine solely out of compassion,
Well yeah i just explained that
>you are seriously mistaken! Palestine is a pawn and a pretext for Iran's influence, but I cannot ignore that fortunately(or unfortunately) we have been a compassionate people even for you fools.)
Lol no, literally ask any palestinian about iran and 99% of the time they would say negative things about it because they realize that as i said, iran sees them as nothing but a tool and not a "pretext" or an ally
>So what happened that in your arab culture you betray each other so easily?!
Betrayals happened easily in all parts and cultures of the world
>Don't tell me you want to say palestine is no longer arab?
Nope
>Or maybe your arab sheikhs have gotten so fat from oil money that they prefer to abandon their ideals?
What sheikhs?
>You arabs know (I don't think you're so foolish as to not understand this simple point), but you even betray your own ideals, and you know it. Yet you try to fool yourselves into thinking that this is better and smarter!
What are you exactly referring by "your own ideals" here? Do you basically other arabs in general, or arabs who share the same political positions and ideologies?
>Yes, for now your countries are not collapsing because you are getting fat off oil money. But suppose, for example, Iran closes the strait of Hormuz for a month, your sheikhs would go crazy! You would tear each other apart! Every tribe and faction would divide your countries because your money would be running out!
And now you think you're really in a good position?
This argument doesn't matter because you're using a non realistic example, iran doesn't have the balls to do that
>You have officially become America's colony! Even with all those big and lucrative deals, you couldn't convince Trump to call the Persian Gulf the "Fucking Arabian Gulf."
No arab cares about what that orange retard calls stuff by
>You have been literally fucked by American bases and companies, but you prefer to live in your fragile palaces.
This reeks of envy, you're just seething because some arabs live between luxurious societies while you live in the slums of tehran lmfao
>Arab independence has been dead for a long time.
Unfortunately if i'm gonna be completely honest it was never alive
>Just last night it was proven that you arabs only need to see a few missiles in the sky and, like your semitic cousins, you scream and run away! (Watch the video, idiot!)
How else do you want them to react to missles flying over them?
>Even Sadam and the Iraqis(who, because of their relative closeness to Iranians, have somewhat more dignity than the rest of you arabs) couldn't defeat the Iranians who had just changed government and were mired in internal conflicts and sanctions, despite all foreign support. In the end, this symbol of your pan-arabism fucked his own people more than anyone else and was fucked himself.
This is pretty much the only thing i might agree with you on, ba'athism has been only bringing arabs downhill
>Your regime is just a picture of money, behind which structural corruption, a class system, and poverty exist that you cannot properly cover up.
This is pretty ironic said by an iranian, just take a glance at your shithole (picrel)

>>393196
>And the moment you become useless to America, you will easily be discarded and perish with your arrogant stupidity.
Nigga fuck amerimutts we don't need them to have stable countries
>And by the way, Iran and Israel allies??! You're really an idiot!
>Iran, throughout almost its entire history, has never had a serious relationship with the jews. We freed them, and in return, they celebrate Purim (although the book of Esther is easily found to have historical inaccuracies and is unreliable, but the important thing is that your semitic cousins still celebrate Purim and believe in it). Even many Iranian opposition groups have problems with jews (I will talk about Iranian opposition in the future). Even that fool (Reza Pahlavi 2) tries to have relations with Israel simply because it is the enemy of his enemy. Even his father opposed Israel and only due to American pressure was forced to have relations with it, which was one of the reasons for the revolution against him. The word "Jew"(یهودی) in Iranian culture >has always had a negative connotation, and the regime had to eventually replace it with the word "Kalimi" (کلیمی) so people would have less negative >attitudes toward the few jews in Iran. In reality, Iran has never been allied with Israel, being allied with Israel is meaningless because they are people who always look down on others, and this is incompatible with the Iranian spirit that refuses to compromise with them.
Now you try to justify that by opposing Israel, the regime gave Israel an excuse for more infiltration and war. You arabs always want to find a reason, even if you have to pull it out of your ass! If Iran cooperated, you would say Iran helps Israel, so they are allies. If Iran stayed neutral, you would say Iran indirectly supports Israel willingly. If Iran opposes, you say Iran gives Israel an excuse, so they are allies. In every case, you say your ridiculous nonsense. But have you ever looked at yourselves??! You have officially become Israel's servants, trampled on your ideals, and even betrayed your own sects (and even abandoned your sunni ideology!). You pretend to oppose Israel, but you maintain relations with it and empower it, and when Iran attacks Israel, you shut up because you are cowards! In the end, Israel with its "fucking greater Israel" dream invades half of your arab lands and you do nothing.
You can flex about iran and persians being le based kike haters as much as you want but the reality is that you and jews are spiritually not only allies but the same people
Jews are the enemies of prophets, iranians (who are mostly shias) are enemies sahaba
Jews want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of greater israel, iranians want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of "islamic" theocracy, and there's alot more similarities but you get my point
>Of course, if you think Iranians do not know you arabs, you are seriously mistaken, fools!
>Almost all Iranians hate you arabs (they have no problem with the Arabs of Khuzestan, because they are honorable Iranians who stood against your pan-arabism in the Iran-Iraq war), and know that you are slaves to money and pleasure!
You know about us so much because you have hatred against us, not the opposite
>There is a story that says a jew, an Iranian, and an arab are given money. The Iranian uses the money to make weapons and armor and strengthen his city. The jew uses the money to expand his trade and make more money. And the arab uses the money to buy goods from the jew and lives in the Iranian city, pays taxes to him, and wastes all his time on pleasure and laziness.
No arabs wants to live in your iranian hellholes
>Yes, this is your essence! That's why when Iran's oil was priced in triple digits and it sold a lot, it used that money to strengthen other industries and advance its existence, like this nuclear thing (although I will later talk about some mistakes and my views on alternatives), but you arabs, instead of developing your real infrastructure, are only focused on appearances.
We develop both of those at the same time actually, something you people are unable to do
>In the end, your oil will run out and you will be overthrown.
Dream about it persoid, even before oil arabs still raped your entire civilization

The previous 2 posts were supposed to be 1 post btw but i had to divide it because mlpol's system is a faggot and can't let that much words be put in 1 post, i really hope this would be fixed

>>393214
>The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture, methodology and can rant about it for you for hours, and some people are just whiney peckeys who want to find negatives in arabs like (You)
This was supposed to be a response to "What exactly have the arabs known for decades?! You don't even know yourselves!" Btw i also forgot to clarify that

“They don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.”
LOL
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/24/israel-iran-war-live-updates-trump-declares-ceasefire-tehran-attack-us-base-qatar

>>393219
well they don't. Both sides are stupid animals.

>>393220
They've hated and warred with each other for literal centuries, millennia even. Each will never accept the fact of the other's existence.

>https://www.npr.org/2025/06/23/nx-s1-5442396/iran-war-trump-power-congress-constitution
Declare war? No.
Make war? Absolutely.
>https://www.axios.com/2025/06/24/trump-impeachment-trump-iran-al-green-democrats
Suck it.

>>393223
Regime change is likely coming to Israel. Netanyahu faces serious legal jeopardy from Israel's Supreme Court, stemming from a long-running prosecution for corruption that was only paused when he became Prime Minister again in 2022. The ongoing hostilities have been in part a delaying action against that prosecution.

>>393224
Along with the judicial reforms in 2023 that triggered widespread protests in Israel.

>>393224
Netanyahu is certainly in hot water, and he's trying to cause wars to distract from his corruption charges, but canning him would not mean regime change for Israel. There is no moderate alternative to Netanyahu's regime.

>>392216
>>393168
Some information about continental supply routes, if Strait of Hormuz will be blocked:
- Iran-China railroad (pic related) -- 10 400 kilometers, 15-20 days, 8.5 million tons per year (100 kg per capita)
- Five Nation Railway corridor (Iran-Afghanistan-China) -- 8000 km, 20-30 days, 6 Mt/year (70 kg per capita)
- Quetta Line + Khunjerab Line (Iran-Pakistan-China) -- ~8000 km, 20-30 days, ??? Mt/year (?? kg per capita)
- North–South Transport Corridor (Iran-Russia) -- 7000 km, 15-24 days, 14-30 Mt/year (150-300 kg per capita)
- Trans-Siberian railroad (North-South --> China) -- 10 000 kilometers, 15-20 days, 160 Mt/year

Overall current state of continental routes worse than I expected. Borderline level, if Iran need not only military supplies, but also some food and industrial goods, tools and parts to repair bombed facilities. Moreover we have problems in Fergana volley and another special military operation possible right next to Iran-China railroad and Turkmenistan-China gas pipeline (we have escalation in Kazakhstan in early 2022, but manage to fix situation quickly and buy some time).

Iranian has about 180 Mt/year oil production and 75 Mt/year oil export (90% to China). Continental routes unsuitable for oil export, moreover oil industry may be bombed with blockade level of escalation. Current China's oil import/consumption is 560/800 million tons, 50% from Persian Gulf. Current China's natural gas import/consumption 180/400 million cubit meters (25-30% from Persian Gulf, 25% from Turkmenistan). China has about 50-100 Mt oil reserve (70-150 days if Strait of Hormuz will be blocked).

Russia has about 520 Mt/year oil production and 240 Mt/year oil export (75% to China). Russia probably can raise production to 10-20%, up to 600 Mt/year during 1-2 years, but overall our oil industry expensive and stagnated. So, only +80 Mt/year possible, which can compensate only 30% of Persian Gulf export. Also China's refineries are build for Persian Gulf oil, they can't refine Russian oil without expensive investments and years to rebuild.

I must say again, the major USA objective is to close Strait of Hormuz by Iranian hands to cripple China's industry. Or just escalate war and bomb all Persian Gulf oil exporters directly. USA don't have any interest in Persian Gulf anymore (they must maintain own oil industry which profitable only with high prices and have plans to take Venezuela as part of their latinos faction unification initiative). Both Saudi Arabia and Iran are just enemy supply line and threat to Israel.

>>393223
>trips off by one but a 32-23 is still interesting
Yeah, a regime change in Israel might be the lasting solution.

>>393231
At least get the Likud party out of power.

Jews are getting desperate and are calling for a false flag terrorist attack to drag America into a war with Iran.

damn I missed you guys
internet was restricted here for 12 days and now mlpol is filtered so now i have to use vpn for connecting here
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anyway lots of shit happened , have to tell all of my western friends in discord that i am alive
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fuck israel and fuck irgc

i was reading the other irani-fag replies.
do not trust this faggot
they are a Irgc propaganda shil and they're here to just spread misinformation and manipulate brains.
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in 12 days i could not connect here (or anywhere) just like most people in my country
but this asshole somehow was able to do so
and he is sucking so much mullah dick rn
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either he has a special net form or he is not even in iran (you can easily download iranian vpn for accessing farsi sites)

>>393248
>fuck israel and fuck irgc
I suspect you must be one of the Russians pointing fingers at. They call you the pro-western 5th column inside Iran.
At your heart, you love the west and despise Iranian culture. This pathological psychology is seen all around the west in the immigrant's mindset. They want access to White People while claiming to love their homeland. Indoors they berate White People, but cry foul if they are removed from living among Whites.
My point... check your loyalties.

anyway tl;dr
there is a cease fire
iran lost many military bases and nuclear sites
1k people are dead and near 13k people are injured
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tbh civilian casualty is pretty low compared to the amount fuckery missiles that IDF shot
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IRGC did not do shit to israel , idc what anyone says.
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irani people are scared and they are full of hatred toward their government , seem like they were happy that israel is punishing iran , can't blame them
personally i don't know how to feel about the war
i can say that two cruel government fought and innocent people died pretty much,
internet is barely coming back
also side note
yesterday was the most horrible day here , so many missile so many sounds so many explosions so many earth quakes (due to explossions)

>>393251
hug
>>393252
neither , i am just a hippy dude who wants to live his life and that is it , which i can't
you don't know what being iranian means
you don't how painful it is that you have to kill every single dreams that you have and give up on the most simplistic rights cause everyone are cruel toward you
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your government is shit , your enemies are shit , your people are depressed and angry, economy is garbage , you don't even have the most casual rights here

>>393254
i am just tired of this planet and it's living beings
and i cannot do anything about it
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maybe i should scratch on the future government in iran or just have to live like a random npc like a normal person would do

>>393248
Hello again!

How horrible! And how tiresome. Every single fucking day I see this kind of jewish bots and double-piggers on 2ch, on livejournal, on telegram, every-fucking-where. Can you put another disc inside? Can you imitate a human being at least? I know, I ask too much from a piece of promt-enginering and mantis-minded-black-box. If you are not human, be aware, we will kill your masters to make internet free again. But I hope, I want to believe that it is with 0.1% chance may be a human. Please, forgive me, If I was mistaken. I regret when war hurt those who do not want to be part of it.

>>393261
The internet is a jewish colony you stupid chud, if you hate it here so much then stop using electronic communication devices and go live with some primitive nigger tribes in africa or something

And the drumbeat started almost immediately.
“Hit it again, goy.”

>>393262
>internet is a jewish colony
Not at all, you are a tiny minority and can't colonize shit, only monitor, shut down the conversation flipping the servers' switches or sending the zogbots. Beyond that, you are fighting a lost battle. /pol/ is already mainstream and your survival as a species is in doubt.

>>393262
At least we hunt down zogdogs sometimes, when you just make love with passionate fillies, devour arabic sweets and watch on tv how your brothers struggles against kikes onslaught!

Trump makes announcement after historic B-2 strike mission on Iran.

>>393267
Whereas I prefer to make love with fillies and hunt down zogs

>>393214
>The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture...
Idiot! Who even asked for a lecture on arab culture for you to start copy-pasting the entire arab encyclopedia?!
Let me explain something to you, maybe then you'll actually understand what this is about:
I'm a Lur myself, and I spent the first 13 years of my life in Khuzestan, living among Lurs and Arabs. I've seen Arab culture firsthand, the festivals, the traditions, the community. I know enough about it, and unlike you, I actually respect the Arabs of Khuzestan.
They have real honor, courage, and a warrior spirit, their culture means something.
My whole point is: why don't you arabs know your own identity anymore?
Why have you abandoned your deeper culture in other countries and started acting like losers?
I don't know, maybe this kind of honor and dignity only still exists in Khuzestani Arabs…
because you sure as hell lack it.
So don't go thinking you're talking to someone ignorant.
I know plenty about you, and that's exactly why I'm shocked at how far you've fallen and how spineless you've become.
And btw, I didn't attack you for no reason.
You were the one who made a dumbass comment about Iranians first, so I simply had to show you just how stupid you really are.
Maybe now you'll learn not to run your mouth with every worthless take that pops into your head.
>Because pan-arabism is a dead retarded ideology
Well, finally! Maybe the arabs are starting to wise up a little and realize that some dreams are just too much of a fantasy for them.
>arab leaders have learned to not fuck with israel a long time ago
Well shit, guess the arabs are still brain-dead.
No surprise though, they seem perfectly fine getting fucked by Israel while just sitting there like pathetic little cowards, doing absolutely nothing.
>We literally do though? We send them humanitarian aid all the time
That's an incredibly gay take.
You arabs are no different from the UN: completely useless and passive.
It's honestly ridiculous that this is the kind of response you come back to me with.
>Iran sees palestine as nothing but a tool that serves their interests...
Yeah, the first part of your post is just you regurgitating my own damn words back at me. Nice job...
But moving on:
You arabs seriously must have some chronic memory loss.
Wasn't it Iran that sent forces when ISIS was busy raping half of your arab lands? Or did that little fact magically slip your mind too?
Let me remind you:
Groups like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and even a bunch of your so-called "freedom fighters" in Palestine were trained, armed, and backed by Iran.
Because let's be real, without Iran holding your hand, you guys can't organize shit on your own.
And this idea that Iran is "afraid" of direct war with Israel?
That's some next-level delusion.
Iran would jump at the chance for a ground war, it would steamroll Israel with superior numbers, real soldiers, and actual battlefield grit.
It's Israel that's too much of a coward to face Iran directly, so they go cry to the U.S for help, and even that's just turning into a bigger joke.
>Well yeah i just explained that
Well done smart ass...!
>Lol no, literally ask any palestinian about iran and 99%...
Iran could have treated them like animals very easily, but instead showed them respect. Boomers really feel some kind of sympathy for them.
And yeah, I know Iran never really saw you as true allies in the end, because they knew the truth about you, that if you ever got power and stayed in it for a while, you'd drown in your own pride (like what happened to Assad).
And yes, Hamas has always had issues with Iran and never really acted like a genuine ally.
But I'm not sure about that 99%.
All those videos you see on arab media, are they really made by that 1 percent?
Because honestly, in most of them, I saw people supporting Iranians.
Anyway, you can deny it if you want. I really don't care.
>Betrayals happened easily in all parts and cultures of the world
Yeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.
And throughout history, I have never seen a people truly face genocide while other same countries just turn a blind eye.
That kind of thing seems to be something only you arabs are capable of.
>Nope
A backward arab doesn't get that this is a rhetorical question and doesn't need to answer such a stupid question.
>What sheikhs?
That minority who take almost all the money from your country.(maybe you're one of their son)
>What are you exactly referring by "your own ideals" here? Do you basically other arabs in general, or arabs who share the same political positions and ideologies?
I mean the ideals of pan-arabism, sunni ideology, arab spirit and independence, and basically everything that defines a true arab.

>>393214
>And now you think you're really in a good position?
Yes! I'm sure! Although I oppose the regime for some internal policies, I still like its overall goal.
Besides, you yourself exaggerated in your own text later by saying Iran has imperial ambitions, so please don't ask about something you already know.
What you're saying smells like jealousy.
>This argument doesn't matter because you're using a non realistic example, iran doesn't have the balls to do that
Iran's got the balls, and damn good ones!
Iran can just threaten to do something and totally mess with your oil prices, which is the backbone of your economy!
It easily sends warnings to your arab countries, and you end up shutting down your biggest air routes, clearing the skies for Iran.
Iran had the guts to be the only country to directly attack the U.S after World War II, twice!
And if you think all that was just a staged show, then Iran can make the U.S dance to its tune.
Iran had the balls to strike even after Trump announced otherwise. Iran has the balls to do whatever it wants(nuclear program, missiles program and so on...).
And if the day comes, Iran will also have the balls to actually close the strait of Hormuz.
So please, shut up about this!
And idiot! You didn't even get the main point!
I used that scenario to show how easily your country can fall apart, and you're all pure arabs with no foreign-backed opposition.
Let's change the scenario if you dare: suppose only half of the oil sanctions on Iran are applied to your country for one year, after that year, you would probably face dozens of autonomous regions.
Meanwhile, Iran has been under harsh sanctions for decades, with separatist groups supported by foreigners and a diverse ethnic makeup, yet it hasn't broken apart!
You? No way! No other country could handle what Iran has and not break apart!
>No arab cares about what that orange retard calls stuff by
LoL! Your stupid politicians, just to suck up to him, would bend over and fuck him if they had to.
>This reeks of envy, you're just seething because some arabs live between luxurious societies while you live in the slums of tehran lmfao
Idiot, more Iranians than that one percent rich arab elite live in luxury societies.
Btw, I'm a poly-eng student right now, living in Navab near Enghelab Square in Tehran, and since I only have one exam left, which got postponed because of the war, I have plenty of time to write to you at this hour.
Also, I don't get why you arabs always want to compete and show off?
Why do you always flaunt things you didn't even work for?
Why are you so jealous and obsessed with money and luxury?
You even show off your dick like you're the only ones who have one! (yeah, you did that dumb shit in this very thread >>393047)!
Believe me, showing off your dick and luxury doesn't help you at all.
Stop this gay-ass behavior already...
>Unfortunately if i'm gonna be completely honest it was never alive
Something like the early islamic caliphates or even Assad's current regime had some degree of arab independence, but it's really sad that even you know this and do nothing about it.
>How else do you want them to react to missles flying over them?
Running around in the open is really a stupid move. The chance of getting injured even in these pointless escapes to nowhere is pretty high.
Btw, this was one of the videos I saw. There are plenty more that show you really have no clue about war.
You're complete cowards and don't even consider the fact that Iran could have attacked the american bases inside your territory.
But you run around in your cities like you're right in the middle of those bases!
I mean, do these idiots really think Iran is going to target a shopping mall or something, so they just randomly hit places like that???
You really act like your cousins, maybe even worse.
I think you should go watch videos of Iranian people during the missile war and compare them to your own.
After all, there's a difference between
Aryans and Semites.
>This is pretty much the only thing i might agree with you on, ba'athism has been only bringing arabs downhill
I'm glad to see you have some logic, but have you considered that the only arab country that directly fought Iran (and that was when Iran was at its weakest) was Iraq?
No other arab country has had direct conflict with Iran since then.
If Saudi arabia or any other arab country acted like Saddam, you'd see that arabs wouldn't stand a chance against Iran, especially now that Iran has grown stronger, as you witnessed in the recent war.
Even though Iran entered your arab airspace, you couldn't do much about it.
>This is pretty ironic said by an iranian, just take a glance at your shithole (picrel)
I wish you had at least posted pictures of some of the poor neighborhoods in southern Tehran. As they say: "از این همه پیامبر، جرجیس را انتخاب کردید!" LoL!
The photo you sent is actually a part of the native and local areas of Mashhad (right near the shrine), which have all been endowed in the past. Even though the land there is very expensive, the local owners prefer to keep its poor-looking, non-materialistic appearance, something that's probably beyond the comprehension of you luxury-obsessed arabs.
And again, you're doing the whole "one-upmanship" thing?
I can also show photos of your poor neighborhoods (which happen to be quite numerous)!
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2019/12/23/vision-2030-and-poverty-in-saudi-arabia
And don't think slums or poor areas are anything unusual in the world.
Why are you so obsessed with showing off luxury? Is it some kind of mental illness?
>Nigga fuck amerimutts we don't need them to have stable countries
Idiot! How the hell would something like Aramco(or better yet, "Americamco") survive without the U.S?
Or let's forget that sanction scenario I mentioned earlier, if, hypothetically, the Americans just left your country and cut ties but didn't sanction you, could you honestly say you'd stay stable??!
Bilakh!

>>393214
>You can flex about iran and persians being le based kike haters as much as you want but the reality is that you and jews are spiritually not only allies but the same people
>He has a genetic connection with the jews and, like them, is semitic.
>He's money-hungry like the jews.
>He's arrogant like the jews.
>He uses his religion as a tool and changed it, just like the jews.
<But the dumb arab thinks Aryan Iranians are like the jews.
Bro, with your nonsense, you just shook Cyrus' grave on vibrate mode!
>Jews are the enemies of prophets, iranians (who are mostly shias) are enemies sahaba. Jews want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of greater israel...
I think I get what's really bothering you. You're just a jealous sunni arab.
First of all, please don't start that stupid shia-sunni debate here(others can't understand it here). I'm neither an expert nor do I have the patience to argue with a brain-dead arab like you about it. Just know this: I have watched plenty of debates between shias and sunnis, and in every one of them, sunni arguments never convinced me as much as the shia ones. Also, I read your Sahih al-bukhari, a book full of drama, contradictions, and stories so unrealistic it turns into a comedy! Honestly, if you sold it as a comedy book, it would probably sell better.
And about "Greater Israel" and all that, why does that remind me of someone else... Ah! You arabs! You who attacked other nations with Trojan-horse islam and still keep doing it, you behave exactly like the jews, only they're a bit smarter at it than you are.
And about Iran, yes! The Persian empire and greater Iran are nothing bad. Unlike pan-arabism and greater Israel fantasies, greater Iran really existed and isn't just some sweet dream. Iran was great in history, and greater Iran is forming right now, not just under this regime but by the Iranians themselves. Even if the regime changes, the army and irgc won't just vanish overnight. (Of course, this war delayed the regime's fall by a few years.)
That's exactly what you sunni arabs are worried about, because to build your own Islamic empire, you need Iran! Without Iran, you're stuck where you are. I have seen how hard you arabs try to tie this to Iranians being shia and say that if Iranians accepted sunni thought and joined the "Ummah", they would advance. Meanwhile, they're advancing anyway (you saw how different Iran is now compared to the Iran-Iraq war era). But you want to pull Iranians to your side so you can advance. Dream on!
Also, sunni worldview and their belief in the Messiah is more like the jews, while shias think more like christians. Islam came after christianity, so logically sunni beliefs should be closer to christianity than judaism, but clearly, you sunnis behave more like jews ideologically and worldview-wise, unlike the shias. Could it mean sunni islam has gone astray and degenerated by jews? Just a theory...
And finally, you idiot! Why do you think just because Iranians and jews both seek glory, they are the same? So what, because greece and Persia existed, Iranians are like Greeks or Romans? Keep your ridiculous logic to yourself. Every nation should care about its own greatness. If your semitic cousins show more pride in this regard, then at least on this front, they're better than you arabs in my eyes. If you arabs don't care about your own glory, you have no right to blame others for caring about theirs. You can see the meme! (I don't agree with part of this meme. Israel is way too cowardly to be a chad. If anything, it makes more sense to put the U.S in Israel's place, but the rest of the meme checks out.)
>You know about us so much because you have hatred against us, not the opposite
You sound a lot like a kike.
Well, when people hate you, and even after they get to know you, they still hate you (most hatred usually comes from ignorance), that kind of shows the problem is actually you.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself: why?
(Note: You can use my text as a reference.)
>No arabs wants to live in your iranian hellholes
Yeah, yeah! Surely you're absolutely fucking right!
The so-called "Golden Age of Islam" wasn't basically one of those hellholes built by Iranians, and arabs? Yeah, they definitely don't want to stick themselves to that story or steal the credit! (Bilakh!)
And when your ancestors invaded Iran, they sure didn't see the Persian paradises (the famous Persian gardens, aka Iranian hellholes) and say, "Hey, these gardens must be the paradise promised in the Quran!" (And of course, those hellholes weren't beautiful at all, not to the extent that their Persian name "Paradis" ended up becoming the very word for paradises in so many languages!)
Almost all your arab regimes in past hadn't Iranian ministers and politicians controlling you, and you weren't actually living in the hellholes the Iranians made for you!
Let me give you a personal example for now:
A family friend of mine in Mashhad (yes, that very city you sent a picture of) had a kidney surgery and was hospitalized at Razavi hospital. When we went to visit, we were surprised to see a lot of arabs in the waiting rooms and treatment wards! After talking to them, it turned out many arabs travel to Iran for cheaper and better healthcare services. Even more interesting, many services in that hospital were free or cheap for Iranians and overall it was an affordable hospital (despite being private).
Well, sometimes paradise is just a place where they don't want to empty your pockets and still provide good quality service. Of course, the hellholes we build turn out to be paradise for you! (don't ask)
And btw, this is my own personal experience, there are many other better examples I could give, but I have seen this myself.
So next time you want to spout that nonsense, remember that basically a lot of the things you have today come from those Iranian hellholes in the first place!

>>393214
>We develop both of those at the same time actually, something you people are unable to do
<Becoming an American colony, building a few more damn palaces for the rich, filling the country with whores and bitches, killing migrant workers for a ridiculous project like NEOM(which despite having astronomical budgets and no sanctions, isn’t progressing as planned), being unable to eradicate poverty and organized class disparity, exploiting your own compatriots in the worst possible ways (something we wouldn't even do to our enemies) and failing to hide all your actions (like Khashoggi), financially supporting terrorist groups and suffering losses from them yourselves, and so on...
Yes, surely we Iranians cannot perform this much stupidity and passivity all at once. You truly have a talent for this!
>Dream about it persoid, even before oil arabs still raped your entire civilization
Ha! And then your own governments were controlled and eventually overthrown by Iranians!
In fact, you pointed your dick at Iran, but Iran shackled that ugly dick of yours and tamed and controlled you. The fact that you think you raped shows how empty and useless your mind really is.
>The previous 2 posts were supposed to be 1 post btw but i had to divide it because mlpol's system is a faggot and can't let that much words be put in 1 post, i really hope this would be fixed
I understand, no need to say that. I sent 4 for you!
>>393217
Got it
P.S: Please stop sending nonsense! This is a thread about a war that hasn't yet turned into peace (a ceasefire could be broken at any moment), not a playground for some dumb arab troll who can only spit out useless garbage. If you post about this again, I won't reply, so don't bother.
P.S.2: Guys, please don't reply to his trolling either, every reply you give just makes him more eager to keep trolling.

>>393219
Quite literally, the only one who actually fell for this 4d chess game is Trump himself!
>>393220
So you know, humans are a type of animal too.
But in this conflict, one side consists of animals that want to control all the other animals, and the other side are animals that refuse to be controlled like the rest.
There's nothing stupid about that.
What's truly stupid is believing you can keep both sides together as if that's ever going to work.
>>393221
Well, it's true that this particular enmity has existed for thousands of years, but since the jews have almost never had a proper civilization throughout history, they were never able to pose any real threat to Iran.
Iran only attacks when it's threatened or attacked first.
And with the war that the jews themselves started, they finally gave Iran the opportunity to settle the score.
>>393222
Well, they did the right thing by not impeaching Trump. When you have entered a war, you can't just impeach your country's president and create chaos.
Right now, Trump won't be impeached, but most likely, after this war ends (regardless of the outcome), Trump will probably be impeached.
Of course, that's just my prediction.
>>393223
>>393224
>>393225
>>393226
>Netanyahu will be removed. Another radical will replace him, and this stupid cycle will repeat itself.
That's why I prefer this war to actually lead somewhere, even if it ends in destruction, because otherwise, only the same global decay will remain.
>>393227
In fact, this war itself might be a kind of effort to delay the development of further transportation links between Iran and china. But for now, we don't know what exactly will happen between Iran and china during this ceasefire, before the next round of war begins.
Currently, if the conflict causes damage to oil facilities, china will most likely be forced to enter the war(like the U.S) to secure its own interests, and that would mark the beginning of a much more serious escalation. I don't think the U.S is actually seeking that, but if it does happen, it will ultimately be to everyone's detriment.
I’m not a military expert, but I'm curious: if Iran were to decide to close the strait of Hormuz, how exactly would it go about doing it? Would it be done selectively? For example, would chinese ships be allowed to pass? And what about those few planes that came from china to Iran during the war, what exactly were they carrying? I think Iran and china have made some plans for such a scenario, but until something actually happens, we can't say anything definitive.
>>393231
In that case, it depends on which regime will come next.
>>393232
For example, does it mean the labor party or something like that would roughly take power? Are the angry Israelis in a mood to accept becoming left-wing or centrist?
>>393233
>Meanwhile, Xi Jinping is waiting in his office to hear about the operation.
>>393243
[pic related]
>>393245
>kikes' nature

>>393248
Hi!
>internet was restricted here for 12 days
Bro?? The international internet wasn't even cut off for a full week, how come you didn't have internet for 12 days??!
>now mlpol is filtered so now i have to use vpn for connecting here
Why? I can still connect without a vpn even now, that's strange... but maybe it works now. Probably when you were posting, they hadn't fully and properly restored the internet yet.
>anyway lots of shit happened
I bet you didn't go through as much crap as I did:
First off, I had a bunch of trouble when the war started, I was working on a project that was almost finished, and the guy who was supposed to do the final assembly just disappeared. Took me two whole days to track him down and get him back to finish it. Then tons of people started leaving Tehran, and my parents down in Bandar Abbas were freaking out, thinking I might get hurt or worse.
Two days before the internet got locked down, I was supposed to head to Bandar the next day. On my way to the library, I passed a small, kind of isolated park, and from a distance, I saw a guy pouring something all over a few tires. It was pretty clear he was planning to set them on fire, probably to stir up panic. (later I found out he was an afghan infiltrator.)
So I slowly approached to get a better look, and once I was sure what was happening, I called 113 or 114(can't remember which). I realized he was going to light the fire and run, probably before the police could arrive. And then, I don't even know why the fuck, I grabbed a stick lying nearby and ran up behind him, smacked him on the side of the head, and knocked him out cold. His head was bleeding, and I was freaking out thinking maybe I accidentally killed the guy.
Police showed up, took me to the station, and sent him to the hospital! Took about a full day before he woke up and they cleared me of any charges. But they still made me delete the video I secretly recorded of him (some dumb "security" reason). Also yeah… kinda awkward when they saw my pony stuff on my phone.
Anyway, once I got out and they told me not to go around attacking faggots again and just report them, I rushed to Bandar Abbas by bus, stayed there for one day, and then came back to Tehran.
After that, I needed to download some really important notes from google drive, but the university internet(which was supposed to stay open), was totally dead. So I asked one of my IT buddies for help. I'm not really good with this tech stuff, but he explained something about static ips, telecom vs mobinnet. In the end, he lent me a mobinnet modem with a sim card, and that's how I managed to get back online, up until today when, finally, everything started working normally again.
So... what's your story, anon? Which city were you in when all this went down?(trying to be normal with you, as I see what did you post later.)
>have to tell all of my western friends in discord that i am alive
When I connected, I saw about 20 messages from different guys just in tel.
>fuck israel and fuck irgc
Oh shit! Here we go again...
>i was reading the other irani-fag replies. do not trust this faggot
Oh, so you just now realized the internet isn't a place to trust people?
Wow, truly groundbreaking.
Thanks for reminding us of the obvious, we would be so lost without you.
>they are a Irgc propaganda shil and they're here to just spread misinformation and manipulate brains.
First of all, please stop throwing around the word "irgc" like that. You are literally a delusional faggot who labels anything slightly opposing your stupid ideas as irgc guy. Please quit repeating that ridiculous nonsense!
Btw, you were the one giving wrong information right from the start: 12 days??? Really nigger??!
And I'm not here to "manipulate minds" like you say (so tell me, which of my statements was false or mind-manipulating?), but it seems like the one whose mind has been completely fucked by the devil is you, with your ridiculous opinions!
>in 12 days i could not connect here (or anywhere) just like most people in my country
I'll say it again, what damn timeline are you living in that you and most people in the country supposedly had no internet for 12 days??! I remember the only ones claiming that Iranians lost internet from day one of the war were some fucking kikes on 4chan pushing propaganda for themselves. Are you one of them??! Well, if that's the case, it explains everything...
>but this asshole somehow was able to do so
I think now you know how I did, asshole.
>he is sucking so much mullah dick rn
Just show me one fucking post from me that I did what you say faggot! JUST ONE FUCKING POST!!!
If you can't find it, shut the hell up and don't open your damn mouth about this nonsense anymore!
>either he has a special net form
Mobinnet's internet had low speed and barely connected to vpn, but when it did connect, the speed weirdly increased (I don't know why). My vpn was a paid one (PARS VPN) and it worked. Also, if I posted on the site without a vpn, it would show the Azerbaijan flag (I really don't know why, I still haven't asked my friend about that).
And you, if you just move your ass a bit and ask someone who actually knows this stuff, you can find a way too! (be ready for the next rounds of the war.)

>>393249
>or he is not even in iran (you can easily download iranian vpn for accessing farsi sites)
As they say: "کافر همه را به کیش خود پندارد"
The way you're accusing and acting like maybe I'm not even in Iran and I'm posting from abroad with an Iranian vpn, makes me wonder if you might be one of those people who throw such accusations at others??! Maybe you're not even Iranian at all! I feel like I'm looking right at the tip of your nose, at least mentally and in your thinking, you behave exactly like (((them)))!
I also remember you called yourself armenian, but every armenian I've ever met was calm, organized, with strong mental and ideological discipline, and culturally devoted, which is exactly the opposite of what you are! Even as a christian, you openly cursed god and said you love Jesus but hate his father! On the other hand, like the kikes, you say Iranians had no internet for 12 days! You weave sad stories from your past trying to make yourself feel at home in my heart, like some jewish martyr! On top of that, you talk like a neurotic, nihilistic jew, and I keep tolerating it, while you keep attacking me, enough already! Once, twice, three times, a hundred times!!! How many fucking times do I have to tolerate you, while you keep insulting me like a lunatic??! Enough, idiot!
If you’re jewish, well, nothing to say, your cover's blown. And if you're really Iranian, you're only Iranian in name, because you're nothing like a real Iranian. You honestly don't deserve to live if you don't care about it! And I don't give a fuck who the fuck you are, what ethnicity you belong to, what religion or ideology you follow, which city you're from, or what your past is... If you are Iranian and in these conditions want to act like a loser fool and make it seem like all Iranians are like that, then just get lost!
If you're against the kikes, then you have no right to say you don't want this damn war! Don't tell me you expect a lightning strike from the sky to kill them??! You have to break some eggs to make an omelet.
And if you don't care about Iran, insult someone who is analyzing this war, lie one after another, and think you're the most miserable person in the world, then you have the right to behave however you want. I hope you never live as an Iranian for a hundred years, asshole!
And don't you dare call yourself a nationalist, a nationalist who is so self-sold, westernized, and depressed is better off shitting in their own ass than screaming here!
If you're on the Iranian side, then don't lie like a dumb jew and tell the truth and real analysis! Otherwise, it's better for you to shut up and get lost!
>there is a cease fire. iran lost many military bases and nuclear sites
Well done, idiot! People here are trying to analyze how exactly this ceasefire is supposed to hold up despite all these problems, whether those bases that were hit have actually been destroyed, and where the uranium is now, then you come along and tell us the obvious! Thanks for the heads-up, dumbass!
>1k people are dead and near 13k people are injured
And again, another fucking big lie from you, idiot! How many shekels of their budget have they set aside for you, you fool?!
Even the highest numbers, even in unofficial sources, don't reach 1000 (I'm not even talking about the official 606). The highest number of injured doesn't exceed 6000. How did you manage to double that??!
Do you pull these lies out of your ass? Or are you connected to somewhere? Even your (((cyber shills))) haven't told such huge lies!
>tbh civilian casualty is pretty low compared to the amount fuckery missiles that IDF shot
Well, kike, what do you mean by that? Are you trying to say Israel has been friendly with the Iranian people or something? Bullshit!
First, your stats are wrong and those numbers are way lower. Second, all those Israeli missiles actually didn't hit their targets. Third, Israel was fighting Aryan Iranians, not some bunch of Gaza sandniggers. Surely they can't cause that much destruction and kill that many people.
And btw, why don't you say the same thing about Iran? Could it be that (((they))) told you if you say the same about Iran's attacks, they won't give you any shekels???
>IRGC did not do shit to israel , idc what anyone says.
<Another fucking big lie, extra shekels for you, faggot!
>irani people are scared and they are full of hatred toward their government , seem like they were happy that israel is punishing iran
Idiot! Even most of the Iranian opposition (including myself) have temporarily sided with the regime, because national interests are at risk, not political interests! And btw, exactly in which media or where in this country are you that you think you can judge the entire people, fool??! Where have the people, in the middle of a war, celebrated punishing the regime while Israel is attacking their country and killing ordinary people??! You probably, in your stupidity, think that celebration people had on Saturday was because they were happy about the attack on the regime?? No, dumbass! That day was Eid Ghadir, and millions of people celebrated it precisely to show they oppose Israel and that Israel cannot ruin their celebration. Something your backward brain probably can't understand! (This video is from that very day, faggot!)
>can't blame them. personally i don't know how to feel about the war
Yeah, you can't say anything meaningful. A damn traitor or an angry kike who currently feels humiliated can't express their feelings. You would rather shut up about this and just take your money.
>i can say that two cruel government fought and innocent people died pretty much
Oh! Better hope they don't dock your pay for that comment. Maybe they won't like you calling both sides "cruel" just to keep up appearances.
Besides, this war was between a country and its people against a bunch of kikes who, in the end, had to call in their mommy (the U.S) to maybe do something for them.(and U.S just dicked them, LoL)

>>393253
>internet is barely coming back.
This is one of the only lies I can't deny. Because honestly, when the internet came back, I was busy with something and only checked a few hours later, and it connected easily. But well, since I've experienced this before, maybe this is the only thing I'm willing to believe from you.
>yesterday was the most horrible day here , so many missile so many sounds so many explosions so many earth quakes (due to explossions)
Idiot! Just yesterday(last day) was one of the weak days. I was in Tehran myself, the peak of the explosions was early in the second week! Don't add too much hot sauce!
>>393254
>neither , i am just a hippy dude who wants to live his life and that is it , which i can't .you don't know what being iranian means...
This is exactly the kind of mindset a sellout traitor or a nihilistic kike would have. Deal with it, asshole.
As an ordinary Iranian, I am living my life and not whining like a loser.
If you want to fix your life situation, do something about it.
If you can't, then shut the hell up!
>your government is shit , your enemies are shit , your people are depressed and angry...
More whining from a pathetic loser.
No one gives a shit about your words, go fix your own life!
>i am just tired of this planet and it's living beings. and i cannot do anything about it
A nihilistic bastard illustrated.
>maybe i should scratch on the future government in iran or just have to live like a random npc like a normal person would do
Think like a passive loser so much that you explode! If you don't take action, nothing will get done for you!
Btw, you're one of the most abnormal bastard I've ever seen. No normal person is this crazy, pathetic, and a loser.

I had some hope in you before, but here you showed your true self.
As the poet says:
"بی کمالی های انسان از سخن پیدا شود
پسته بی مغز چون لب وا کند رسوا شود"

>>393252
I don't think he's even a 5th column. Because literally, he does nothing and, as they say, just brings everyone down.
We call people like this(who occasionally show up on twitter or tel) a type of troll. They truly believe in nothing and live in complete emptiness and stupidity. You can find these kinds of people both among the regime supporters and the opposition groups on tel. In both groups, they behave as if they're depressed and miserable, trying to spread that misery to others.
Among the regime supporters, they might make you lose your feelings toward the regime, and among the opposition, they behave in a way that makes you feel foolish. They're just self-deprecating, worthless people who really have nothing to offer and can't even serve as a good 5th column.
Such people are not truly in love with the west or the east because when you sold your homeland, you also sold the feeling of love itself (this may sound poetic and literary, but it'ls really serious). So they genuinely have no real belief in anything, and that's what leads to their ruin.
I don't know much about immigrants from other countries, but regarding Iranian immigrants (because some of my paternal family live abroad), I know that most of them are students, elites, businessmen, or their families. That's why they usually adhere to certain values and often belong to the middle to upper-middle class in western societies. Usually, they try to keep their heads down and don't interfere much in various issues, unless it directly concerns them.
They always carry a sense of nationalism and patriotism within themselves (they always feel alienated in the west). Whether they are opposition or regime supporters, they try to maintain their Iranian roots and religious identity (probably if you talk to some of them, they consider themselves secular or atheist, but as one of my cousins who lives in Westwood said, people hang symbols like Faravahar, the "One in a Thousand" tapestry, or pictures of the Shah and Mossadegh(who were mortal enemies) side by side because of their nationalist appearance).
Yes, there are also some illegal Iranian immigrants who are pretty much like "him" (he's the unhealthiest example among them).
Overall, this does not apply to legal Iranian immigrants, they basically don't shout or make a fuss.
This guy is a symbol of complete depression and madness leading to ruin.
>>393261
Your concern for him is understandable, but I have talked to him enough now to realize that he really has no way back. He has burned his bridges behind him and reached ruin and emptiness.
And I guarantee you, he is a human being, but a person you can no longer hope for. Even you, though you don't know many Iranians, can clearly see that he is mentally ill and cannot be a healthy Iranian. Of course, in my opinion, he might not even be Iranian at all.
As I said, he is probably either a self-sold, nihilistic person or a (((foolish cyber troll))). In either case, there is no hope for him.
>>393262
As I said, don't troll here.
>>393266
This is the kind of argument I call "دعوای زرگری".
There's no guarantee that this isn't just an act being played by both sides.
>>393268
I understood the talks and some of the jokes with people, but I think this whole thing is a bit too American for me. Is all this just joking about your politicians? I mostly feel it relates to internal matters.

P.S: please as I said, don't cheer the arab and (((irani-like))) trolls by replying them. Don't give a shit about them. I really could post something more useful, if I didn't have to reply them. Now I can just save my time.

>>393293
>Is all this just joking about your politicians?
No joking, but mocking them. They are incompetent, uncultured lying clowns and exhibit A why there is not political solution for western liberal/conservative democracy. This is not going to end well.

>>393294
It seems there's no government whose people don't hate it.
But well, Churchill once said something interesting:
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried.

>>393289
>And what about those few planes that came from china to Iran during the war, what exactly were they carrying?
I think electronic warfare equipment. If kikes sabotaged part of system, the air delivery is the fastest way. And GPS suppression against glide bombs quite effective. I wand to share some data about it first.

Pic related from our electronic warfare guide:
- Vertical scale -- radius of suppression in kilometers.
- Horizontal scale -- power output of EW-equipment in kilowatts.

As you can see power more than 1-2 kW actually useless, but numerous small stations effective, especially if they are on high altitude drones. We have two electronic warfare belts behind frontline. 10 km between them, stations 2-4 km one from the other (1-2 kW station = 0.8-1 km suppression). If glide bomb flies 20 km above two lines of stations it has deviation about ±20-30 meters, practically it makes bombs like SDB 4-5 times less effective.

Some details about SDB and GMLRS electronics:
- GPS DIGAR -- accuracy ±5-8 meters without suppression.
- INS HG1700 -- deviation 10 meters per 30 seconds fly if GPS was suppressed.
- Laser-guided -- laser from small drone 2.5 km from target (drone lifespan usually 1-3 sorties)

Ukrainians uses GLSDB (ground launched SDB with speed 250 m/s), but they trash compared to GMLRS (Himars missiles with speed 830 m/s), faster projectiles means better accuracy with INS. When GMLRS gained speed and gyroscope has activated during first minute after launch, this impossible to influence it during flight. To suppress GMLRS for sure you need EW-station at height of 12 km on the enemy territory, but small EW-drone can't reach such attitude. I do not know, what tricks we used to suppress GMLRS, enemy rarely uses it against units further than 10-20 km behind frontline, but can try up to 50 km distance if sees drone team or supply convoy.

Himars can launch GMLRS from 75 km (usually from 25-50 km zone behind frontline). Fly time 3-5 minutes, accuracy ±5-8 meters without suppression, usually 2-3 projectiles with cluster warheads against one target, equivalent of 100-150 unguided 152mm HE shells or 30-50 unguided cluster shells (2-3 injured, 0.3-0.5 killed). Production quite numerous, about 15-20k GMLRS in 2025FY, but reserves are exhausted, we sees missiles with new 2023 electronics.

GMLRS is most dangerous ground based weapon in NATO arsenal. GMLRS effective only against stationary targets (coordinates loaded in warhead before launch). Keep in mind 5 minutes period between detection and launch. Body armor reduces lethality by 2.5 times.

I hope, you will find some good use for it. Other answers tomorrow.

I just wish we would stop putting geriatric patients in charge of the nation.

>>393289
>Quite literally, the only one who actually fell for this 4d chess game is Trump himself!
Well of course, Trump is really easy to figure out and manipulate, because his ego demands that he is always the smartest and most powerful person in the room, regardless of who is in the room with him.
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views. Which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."

I doubt any removal of the likud party will be permanent. They tried that in 2021, but the coalition fell apart and the likud rapidly reasserted power.

>https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-26-2025/
LOL
>Khamenei: US entered war as it feared Israel ‘would be completely destroyed if it didn’t’
The average American can't even find Israel on the map.
There are even American jews who want nothing to do with Zionism.
The US entered the war because Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot, the President of the United States of America.
He tried to manipulate Congress as well, but there are just too many skeptics and gainsayers there.

>>393318
>Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot
>He tried to manipulate Congress
A gentle reminder.

God... This is the literal definition of PAIN

>>393318
>The US entered the war because Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot, the President of the United States of America.
Tbh, I think Bibi has yet to get the result he wanted. Bibi wants total regime change in Iran, and he wants the USA to fight the war for him. Trump just bombed a couple nuclear sites that can be rebuilt in a couple months.
Trump is motivated by vanity, and war is an ugly thing. He clearly wants this conflict over as soon as possible. He's also a narcissist, and seems to be keen on detecting manipulative egocentrists like Bibi who would try to disrespect and take advantage of him: that's why he was so openly angry at Bibi and berates him on TV the other day for breaking the ceasefire.
Trump is definitely still a Zionist and will do what's best for Israel, but I don't think he's going to buy into Bibi's self-destructive warmongering plan just yet.

>>393321
>Bibi wants total regime change in Iran
Yup, and he has already been pressuring Trump to "finish the job".
>Trump is motivated by vanity
Well, he can take comfort in the fact that he can call himself a wartime President, setting himself up alongside Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Reagan, and George W. Bush.
>Trump is definitely still a Zionist and will do what's best for Israel
He moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, long in Bibi's wish-list because it affirms Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.

>>393290
>>393292
>BLAH BLAH
you write too much and you care too much about what people say on the internet
that means you still have some dignity and hope to care to prove yourself for a random nigga on the internet
at this point i am just too depressed to give a fuck who is a good firend and who is a bad foe
life has been shit for all of us in iran
anyway
glad you're alive , and i don't care if you're basiji or npc or mossad or whatever the fuck you identify as
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also you need to stop talking to that arabtard, that guy is a troll and he never posts in a good faith

Side note:
i swear to god the whole IRGC runs by the Jews
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CENSOR A SITE THAT IS BASED ON ANTI_SEMETISM and hating on israeli dildo nose jews?!
that is a ((GOOD THING))

>>393292
wow i made a mistake by actually reading that....
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE??!?!?!?
the main character ass mentality syndrome
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you are defending iran in a 4chan based site
by shit posting about israel
THAT IS NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING!! not for iran not against israel
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let me honest with you
Iran is not Persia , stop with the delusional nationalism
see the bad sides
persia was that father that was like a veteran hero whom was respected by everyone in the family
Islamic republic of iran is that autistic child who is a total embarrassment for the whole family , a retarded guy who is hated by everyone
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>>393291
welcome to mlpol , everyone are a jew shill until proven wrong (which never happens)
i am not a kafer , i born christian and i die as a christian
deal with it
i am not a nihilist , i just hate humanity as a whole
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god you are sad and you are trying too much for idk for what reason and i am not sure what the fuck are you trying to prove here

>>393322
>Yup, and he has already been pressuring Trump to "finish the job".
I don't think Trump is going to do it. If he were open to doing that he would have done it already, and not played around bombing the nuclear sites or brokering ceasefires.
>Well, he can take comfort in the fact that he can call himself a wartime President, setting himself up alongside Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Reagan, and George W. Bush
Except the era of those assholes being popular has passed. There is no public appetite for war with Iran, despite what neocon warhawks claim.
>He moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, long in Bibi's wish-list because it affirms Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.
Yeah, I know. He's a Zionist shabbos goy. This has been clear for years.
Idk if that means he's about to enter total war with Iran though.

Iran’s Supreme Leader Threatens to Attack More U.S. Military Bases: “We Slapped America in the Face”

LOL, no. They lightly fondled our dick. If they're really feeling froggy, they could always, I dunno. TOUCH THE BOATS.

>[YouTube] Dont Touch America's Boats [Embed]

I refuse to be held responsible for the consequences that follow if they do, though.

>>393327
it is just bluffing , don't worry , from the day i born i was hearing him saying that he will destroy israel and usa
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did anyone here saw those AI khamenei speeches??
i don't have twitter so i cannot post the actual video but here it is with ass-mon reaction (sorry about that)
[YouTube] Iran response to Trump.. [Embed]

>>393328
i can't with the fucking accent in the video....that is not farsi accent

>>393284
>Idiot! Who even asked for a lecture on arab culture for you to start copy-pasting the entire arab encyclopedia?!
3 lines of words about arabs isn't an entire encyclopedia you're just too retarded to comprehend it
>Let me explain something to you, maybe then you'll actually understand what this is about:
>I'm a Lur myself, and I spent the first 13 years of my life in Khuzestan, living among Lurs and Arabs. I've seen Arab culture firsthand, the festivals, the traditions, the community. I know enough about it, and unlike you, I actually respect the Arabs of Khuzestan.
>They have real honor, courage, and a warrior spirit, their culture means something.
People of khuzestan are part-persoid mutts in both ways of culture and dna which is probably why you don't bother them because they're almost as swarthy as your "people", not because they have real honor or whatever you're babbling about
>My whole point is: why don't you arabs know your own identity anymore?
>Why have you abandoned your deeper culture in other countries and started acting like losers?
We haven't abandoned anything, the identity and culture of buckbreaking iranians and their puppets is still here
Centuries ago the arab khalifs crushed your sasanian grandfathers like cockroaches and now whenever iran tries creating an organization or a movement in the gulf it ends up getting crushed too
>I don't know, maybe this kind of honor and dignity only still exists in Khuzestani Arabs…
Definitely not lol
>So don't go thinking you're talking to someone ignorant.
You are ignorant though
>I know plenty about you, and that's exactly why I'm shocked at how far you've fallen and how spineless you've become.
Living between khuzestani mystery meat doesn't mean you know anything about pure arabs
>And btw, I didn't attack you for no reason.
>You were the one who made a dumbass comment about Iranians first, so I simply had to show you just how stupid you really are.
My original comment about iranians is still true
>Maybe now you'll learn not to run your mouth with every worthless take that pops into your head.
Nope, still haven't convinced me about anything
>Well, finally! Maybe the arabs are starting to wise up a little and realize that some dreams are just too much of a fantasy for them.
The majority of arabs have always hated ba'athism
>Well shit, guess the arabs are still brain-dead.
>No surprise though, they seem perfectly fine getting fucked by Israel while just sitting there like pathetic little cowards, doing absolutely nothing.
The arabs that are getting fucked by israel currently are the ones who still haven't learned to not fuck with them first in a random and idiotic way, which are of course the same retarded iranian puppets (hamas and hezbuallah)
>That's an incredibly gay take.
>You arabs are no different from the UN: completely useless and passive.
>It's honestly ridiculous that this is the kind of response you come back to me with.
Sure, arab leaders are cucked and useless, all leaders of all countries are cucked and useless.
You should keep in my mind that i don't lean to any country or nationalist group and i hate all governments including mine because of religious reasons you're probably too retarded to understand, i should've said this before.
but i would still prefer pseudo-sunnis over iranians and their minions any day
>Yeah, the first part of your post is just you regurgitating my own damn words back at me. Nice job...
I was just showing you that i think that specific part of your post but in a way of showing that it's shameful or something, whatever you wouldn't care
>But moving on:
>You arabs seriously must have some chronic memory loss.
>Wasn't it Iran that sent forces when ISIS was busy raping half of your arab lands? Or did that little fact magically slip your mind too?
Mentioning ISIS and them "busy raping" arab armies is not the own you think it is, ISIS fucked up maliki's regime and alot of iranian-backed nusayris in syria, that's one of the few reasons why i advocate them and support them against all arab regimes
>Let me remind you:
>Groups like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and even a bunch of your so-called "freedom fighters" in Palestine were trained, armed, and backed by Iran.
>Because let's be real, without Iran holding your hand, you guys can't organize shit on your own.
And guess what happens to these groups? They always pathetically lose against kikes and get raped by US airstrikes, because YOU are the ones that can't organize shit and end up embarrassing yourselves
>And this idea that Iran is "afraid" of direct war with Israel?
>That's some next-level delusion.
>Iran would jump at the chance for a ground war, it would steamroll Israel with superior numbers, real soldiers, and actual battlefield grit.
But they do, southren lebanese areas (excluding the borders) are fully safe for iranians most of the time because it's protected by hezbuallatcucks, iran can literally just send their soldiers there using airforce equipments and have a real face to face ground war with israel but they don't because as i said, they're cowards
>It's Israel that's too much of a coward to face Iran...
Both countries are too cowardly to face eachother
>Iran could have treated them like animals...
They kind of already do sadly but not in a direct way
<iran sends guns and rockets to groups in gaza
<these groups start fighting israel with it
<gaza gets destroyed to ashes
<israel wins
<cycle repeats
This is actual animal treatment for palestinian people
>And yeah, I know Iran never really saw you as true allies in the end, because they knew the truth about you, that if you ever got power and stayed in it for a while, you'd drown in your own pride (like what happened to Assad).
C'mon now you know iran doesn't actually care about that, assad has drowned in his own pride since the moment he became president and as a result to that a revolution happened in his country and iran still backed him up