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>Iran warns of ‘proportionate’ response as IAEA mulls censurehttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/10/iran-warns-against-iaea-pressure-israel-attack-as-more-us-talks-loom>Trump tells Netanyahu to end Gaza war and stop Iran threats, source says, as US ramps up pressure on Israelhttps://www.cnn.com/2025/06/11/middleeast/us-ramps-up-pressure-as-trump-tells-netanyahu-to-end-gaza-war-and-stop-threatening-iran-intl>Iran Threatens Israel's Nuclear Sites as Trump Blocks Strike Planhttps://www.newsweek.com/iran-israel-nuclear-strike-retaliation-us-donald-trump-2083769>Iran tests advanced 2-tonne ballistic missile warheadhttps://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514209/Iran-tests-advanced-2-tonne-ballistic-missile-warhead>U.S. to Withdraw Diplomats From Iraq Amid Iran Tensionshttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/11/us/politics/iran-us-iraq-diplomats-middle-east.html>'Iran will react strongly': Araghchi warns Europe over looming resolutionhttps://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514214/Iran-will-react-strongly-Araghchi-warns-Europe-over-loomingI think it's a good idea to start the war thread before the war actually starts.
Post anything related to the Iran-Israel war here.
It looks like the war is actually going to be serious this time (Iran has never admitted to having nukes this openly before. That means this time is different...)
We have said this a thousand times before, but here comes time number one thousand and one: It's happening...!
Trump seems unwillingly to enter this war during his term, but what I'm concerned about is that Israel might be setting the stage for whoever replaces Trump to fight Iran in 3 years.
>>392217>fight Iran in 3 yearsIf America got involved, it is guaranteed that all American bases around will go in flames as America's air defenses are junk.
Orange Man has a good opportunity to rebuild patriotism and the military with this LA Rent-a-riot happening and expanding.
I'm not sure what to expect, but it sure is inconvenient for international rumblings to happen when dealing with local disturbances.
>>392219That is a sacrifice that Israel is willing to make.
>>392228So true, so true.
Iranian anon reporting in. I'm going to drop a few thoughts for you since some place's been swarming with certain flag-posting shills lately:
First off, this time it's different.
Even orange man himself admitted that Iran's gotten way more aggressive and less compromising in negotiations. That should raise a few eyebrows. This isn't the usual "pls sanction less" Iran anymore, they're clearly gearing up for something.
Personally? I'm pretty convinced Iran already reached nukes a couple years ago, Maybe 2-3 years back.
What you're seeing now, the talks, the posturing, it's just copium and time-buying while they finish up logistics: hardening bunkers, relocating stockpiles, maybe deploying payloads. Standard chess moves.
Here's the blackpill though:
Iran has no real allies.
Unlike Israel, which has the US as its attack dog (and emotional support animal), Iran's only "partners" are Russia and China, both cold, opportunistic players. It's not friendship. It's "enemy-of-my-enemy" pragmatism at best.
Russia? Has backstabbed Iran in the past. Voted against us in the UN, took an anti-Iran stance on the Persian Gulf islands, and is still playing footsie with tel aviv. If Iran were a real ally, we would see boots on the ground(like North Korea) in ukraine, not just drones. But nah, it's all transactional. We sell them some toys, they say thanks, and that's it. Zero ideology in common!
China? Even worse!
Pure npc economic logic. They don't care about Iran's existence. They'll trade with whoever lines their pocket, saudi, Israel, Iran, doesn't matter. If war breaks out and they have to pick sides, they'll side with whoever their wallet says is more profitable.
So yeah, I won't be shocked if one day I see not just Israeli and american soldiers, but maybe indirect russian or chinese signatures in the mix! Global politics is a clown show and Iran's standing solo on the stage.
Now about 4chan itself:
These past few days, the board's been flooded with flag shills, many obviously waving blue-and-white flags (and some pretending not to), spamming anti-Iran threads and trying to frame the narrative. Sad truth is, thanks to Iran's (akhond's) censorship and the fact that 4chan's anti-vpn filters are brutal, you barely see Iranian anons active here. And those "chosen" shills know it. They're exploiting the silence to spread their narrative unchecked.
Still, I've seen some of you call them out. Based. Keep doing that.
Look, I'm not asking you to simp for Iran. I know most of your governments are cowardly and you'll probably get dragged into another war you didn't ask for. But at least, don't buy into the lies!
Don't become another glowie tool helping tel aviv propaganda.
I'm no fan of Iran's domestic policies, in fact, I oppose almost everything of what the mullahs are doing inside. But on foreign policy, especially regarding Israel? That's one of the few areas where I see eye to eye with them.
And yeah, if push comes to shove and war erupts, I'm not gonna sit this one out. I'm ready to stand up, not for a regime, but for something bigger.
Not because I love mullahs, but because I love my country and I love to finally get revenge on those faggots, who have fucked a lot of civilizations in history. I’d love to finally put a bullet in one of their heads.
If one day I see your boots across the battlefield, I won't hate you for it. This is a game of elites, not people like us. If you shoot me, I'll understand. Just remember: you should understand if I shoot back.
P.S On a technical note:
Anyone got tips on posting from Iran? Even my paid vpn is throwing errors on 4chan. Can't post anything. I'm not very techy (more of a chem guy than it), so I'd appreciate a simple workaround if you have one.
Any Iranian anons lurking who solved this? Give me some wisdom.
P.S2: Somehow, I'm feeling so faggot, that I used ai, but I didn't find anything else good for Iran vs Israel...
>>392234I hope Iran turns Israel into a parking lot.
>>392238It looks like that's the plan all along. If not, why Israel sent 30 patriot batteries to Ukraine?
>>392216>It looks like the war is actually going to be serious this timeThings have started to roll. Fasten your seat belts.
>>392234>We sell them some toys, they say thanks, and that's it.Not true. When the UN sanctions ended, Russia begun upgrading Iran's air defenses, delivery of trainers for fighting jets because selling MIGs is now allowed, and facilitate to doge sanctions on some Iran's oil exports. Also an agreement on mutual military assistance was signed.
>Here's the blackpill thoughIran is infiltrated to the core with a pro-western 5th column and it is expected sabotage actions and assassinations to increase.
>>392250Well, that's fair. What I said earlier was specifically in the context of the Ukraine war, that Iran acted more like a vendor than a true ally.
Otherwise, sure, Russia is definitely trying to expand cooperation. Just few days ago, they signed another agreement.
But overall, these actions haven't been comprehensive or reliable enough for Iran. Russia still remains an untrustworthy ally for us.
As for the fifth column, yes, absolutely. Even Iran itself has acknowledged this issue.
Just like Iran has its own infiltration inside Israel (I'm not sure how extensive the leaked information from Israel was, but the fact that it caused such a stir suggests it was significant).
But what's important here is that intelligence and security warfare between the two countries is not some dark secret or bitter truth, it's standard practice and obvious. There's no need to treat it like a shocking revelation.
>>392234Hello, anon, I glad to see you here. I didn't have the opportunity to speak with Iranians before, especially about Iran vs Israel war from strategical perspective.
>Unlike Israel, which has the US as its attack dog (and emotional support animal), Iran's only "partners" are Russia and China, both cold, opportunistic players. It's not friendship. It's "enemy-of-my-enemy" pragmatism at best.As Russian military, I can confirm. We are opportunists in this global war. We clearly don't want China to win, because in this situation we are totally fucked. Russia-Iran-China triangle looks harmonious from resource perspective, but it is destructive to our industry. Land empire with lengthy railroads can't compete with ×10 times bigger country with best harbors and perfect river systems. Our strategical goal is to shape EU to more independent state, make beneficial agreement with them and then focus on development of Eastern Siberia and Northern sea route.
I know about two diplomatic projects with Iran. First one is North-South route through Caspian sea, as reserve route, if Black Sea was totally blocked. Second project is triple treaty between Russia, Iran and Israel to stabilize region, when USA clearly wants to burn China's oil supplies. I think our leader doesn't want to see Israel collapse, because Israel itself draw resources from much stronger Jewish bankers and harm their international image. So, I think, Russia will aim diplomatic efforts to peacekeeping.
I have three questions.
Question №1:
Iran vs Israel war is beneficial for Iran? From our perspective not for both sides. Shia Islam is 10% of Mohammedan world, but Sunni Islam is 87% of population. Nowadays Israeli is enemy for both, but without Israel Sunni countries can join efforts against Iran. Rockets barrages and attacks from Hezbollah and Houthis looks as some kind of show for Mohammedan world. Threats, but without coordination and serious damage. I perfectly know, how vulnerable Israel from Lebanon. Their gas platforms, their water desalination stations, their power plants. This looks like strategical game: Iran used Israel like scarecrow and gather more influence, but doesn't want real war. However this situation may get out of control, just like our 'rapid' campaign in Ukraine.
Question №2:
What do you know about sea blockade of Syria? Maybe some Iranian news? This situation completely avoided by our public sources, but I found this data about oil export:
- Iranian oil production 2023 -- 174M ton/year (86 GJ per capita)
- Iranian oil export 2023 -- 75M ton/year (37 GJ per capita)
- 2022: Iran --> Syria 7.3M ton/year, 11% export (13.8 GJ per capita)
- 2024: Iran --> Syria 2.85M ton/year, 4% export (5.4 GJ per capita)
- Syrian oil production (1996, 15M population) -- 25.9M ton/year (76 GJ per capita)
- Syrian oil production (2009, 18M population) -- 20.0M ton/year (48.9 GJ per capita)
- Syrian oil production (2016, 18M population) -- 2.5-4.5 ton/year (6.1-11 GJ per capita)
- Syrian oil production (2023, 23.3M population) -- 1.2 ton/year (2.3 GJ per capita)
Looks like before 2023 Iran supply Assad government almost fully. <10GJ per capita is not enough even for agriculture. 20GJ per capita is borderline level for organized government and army activities. But Iran decreased supplies 2.5 times and Russia don't send tankers too, although it would be just 3% of our oil export. I don't understand this situation. I haven't seen news about sea blockade, but it looks just like it.
Question №3:
What do you think about Iranian diplomatic contacts with Saudi Arabia? Defensive cooperation is possible? Can general population agree with this? From our perspective USA can block China's sea tanker routes in Malacca by AUKUS, or just burn Persian Gulf.
>And yeah, if push comes to shove and war erupts, I'm not gonna sit this one out. I'm ready to stand up, not for a regime, but for something bigger.>Not because I love mullahs, but because I love my country and I love to finally get revenge on those faggots, who have fucked a lot of civilizations in history. I’d love to finally put a bullet in one of their heads.They are my enemies too. This is personal with my family and jews from Revolution times. Personally, I'm like Iran as last successor of ancient Persia. I noticed your industry, roads, steel production, modern and effective military. My friends fought alongside Iranian forces in Syria. I grateful for shaheeds and shells. I am preparing to next possible war in the Central Asia (Kazakhstan and Ferghana region), but I will fight against Iran only if Russia need this war for survival and our future. Empires don't have constant allies, but I wish your country to be strong through this dark times. I wish you good luck.
>>392216well hi iran-bros
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israel uses iran as a fake enemy so they can dictate their views and scare their own people
also they can act like a damsel in distress so they can ask for more aids and money from west
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iran does that too , they use palestine vs israel to oppress people in iran so they can stay in power
and make the people forget that how much of a theocratic/kleptocrats government type ass they are
iran acts like a big bad wolf but it is just no bites and just woof
one single drop of a blood did not came from an jew's nose from iran's actions in the past
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and iran is losing all of its power in middle east
hamas got fucked , houthis are getting fucked
and waste majority of our neighbors hate us because we very involve ourselves in their politics and country's descissioning
>>392257also side note
it was 50 years that irgc is in power
and still shit did not happened
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maybe israel , especially netanyahoo and his goons (zionist party) is losing so much respect due to their actions in middle east and highly fucking up democracy in america with their bulshitism and money asking
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left in america hate israel 'cause of palestine
right hate israel , cause their country is wasting so much money on them
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i think israel needs a W and wants to have a W
so as Iran
people in israel are shitting on their government due many unwanted wars that i are seeing
so as
iran , iran suffers from both economical and political problems
any protests are happening here
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so both iran and israel need a war so they can mislead their shitty governing so people would be busy with bullshits so they can stay in power
>>392252btw , never trust russia nor china
they always see iran only as their toy
putin uses all of us as their pawn
and he manipulated both america and iran
in the past
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they are not our friend nor our ally
we are alone in this shithole
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also don't forget russia is pro-israel
remember the day that they gave us missiles but they gave the turn off codes to israel
so when iran decided to shoot those missiles at israel , none of them worked
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Ladies and Gentlemen, it happened!!!
>>392259China does need middle eastern oil, of which Iran is a major supplier. They can't rely solely on Russia, that would give Moscow too much leverage.
Apparently, Israel has just bombed Iran
I can just say I heard the start of ww3 in Tehran!!!
Oh my god! I heard it!
Starting tomorrow, if needed, I will volunteer. The kikes will taste the wrath of a Lur...!
>>392304Iran is getting ready to retaliate.
I wonder what other players in the middle east will do if this escalates. Azerbaijan and Armenia will almost certainly go at it again, but I want to know what other players will do.
My wallet suddenly started crying.
>Right now is a decisive moment. In the future, either all Aryans will be burned by the jews, or the Faravahar will stand alongside the swastika as a symbol of pride for all of us Aryans.
P.S: Don't blame me for being excited, I'm still thrilled by the sound of the explosion!
Iranian retaliation when?
Second wave of strikes just announced
Based kikes will ,eep getting away with it.
Iran won't do sh*t.
Neo nazis will sit and spin on their swastikas with their meth pipes blazing, as usual.
American conscripts marching on Persia (2025, colorized):
[YouTube] Where there's a whip, there's a way!
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So, Israel did something so heavy. There won't be any mercy then, there will be blood!
Everyone will have known this was coming. China and Russia will have been informed.
>President Trump specifically said that President Xi and himself did not discuss Ukraine
>>392308Retaliate with WHAT!? They did a whole show of force with drone and missile attacks like a year ago and it amounted to a wet fart, all while burning through a significant chunk of their best stuff. Isreal now knows the specs of the shit that Iran can hit them with. The two countries don't share a border, or anything close to a border, Isreal has ridiculous air superiority, and any kind of ocean conflict between the two is even more impossible.
Maybe if the corridor from Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon was still functional Iran could get some punches in but that shit got rolled up with the end of the Syria civil war.
>>392321>Iran to officially declare warAwesome but what the fuck are they going to do? Even if Iraq is basically a failed state then can run roughshod over, Jordan and the Saudis aren't exactly gonna let Iran try a 1800mile thunder run go through their borders.
Best Iran can hope for is to put the supposed 'uranium for nine nukes' on nine missiles and send them in a 4000 missile volley and just hope that one or two gets through and that they successfully detonate.
>>392325I suppose now we'll see for certain whether Trump's falling out with the chief jew was a PR play or not.
Israeli launches are being carried out from Iraqi airspace.
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1933334028507361314 [Embed]
U.S. Air Force KC-135T Stratotanker takes off from Saudi Arabia, switched transponders off immediately after takeoff.
B-but the White House said they are not involved.
While the topic is still hot
Which brown nation are (You) siding with?
>>392333>brown nationAmerica.
>>392307>wrath of a lurGood Joke
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i don't think iran can start a ww3 really
also yes i heard the BOOOM!! as well
So far no news about death of innocent people
but they killed three of our high military ranks
>>392337it seems like those terrors happened by mossad using drones to target ranked men
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and IDF shot Natanz Site
they say six explosion has been heard in tehran
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iraq says they saw iranian drones from their skies
it would reach israel about 1 hour
Damn, mossad is raping everyone HARD today
>Hossein Salami, Iran's Revolutionary Guards chief, killed by Israelhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyg0yywr4no>Israeli military says it has recovered body of elusive Hamas leader Mohammed Sinwarhttps://www.cnn.com/2025/06/08/middleeast/israel-recovers-mohammed-sinwar-body-latam-intl
>>392343>Hossein Salami, Iran's Revolutionary Guards chief, killed by IsraelThen the glaring questions arise. How the jews knew his location? How is possible that knowing about technological capabilities the Iranians didn't take the appropriate precautions? It gets a lot worse when you consider that targeted assassinations by the jews is not news in Iran. Then you must conclude that incompetence and betrayal are in the Iranian blood.
>>392324>Maybe if the corridor from Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon was still functional Iran could get some punches in but that shit got rolled up with the end of the Syria civil war.But I was told the fall of Assad wouldn't affect logistics for Hezbollah in Lebanon that much. It seems like the resistard cope will finally die soon.
>>392308All 200 drones were successfully intercepted, it seems. This is probably a probing attack but I doubt Iran can overwhelm Israel's defenses now that most of their proxies are knocked out and many of their assets destroyed.
Am I the only one oldfag enough to remember that the US golem beast and its israeli whore master have been lying over and over again about iran creating nuclear weapons and mushroom clouds all over the US appearing ANY DAY NOW because of that, and that iran must be nuked first before they can destroy the entire world, etc.??
Will any of you, besides the israeli army sockpuppets posting here, actually believe that it was anyone but israel/US when any nucular bombs or "supersecretsauceweapons" go off anywhere?
>>392360I remember this from 2012.
>>392337>Good JokeYeah, sometimes the truth can be pretty funny.
Right now, you're talking to someone who's the second best winchester shooter in his native village (the first is my cousin), and since I was 12-13, I've been familiar with ak47.
And like you know yourself, even empty-handed, Lurs can use stones and bricks (probably that's why it sounded funny to you, lol).
You said you're Armenian, right? I would watch out, brother, it wouldn't be surprising if Israel tries to drag Armenia and Azerbaijan into war. They are so crazy to burn everything!
>i don't think iran can start a ww3 reallyWho would thought a simple terror by some serb would kick off a world war??? Come on, wars usually start way simpler (and maybe even dumber) than you would think!
>So far no news about death of innocent peopleHonestly, even in non-state media, I heard about several civilian deaths, even some kids. So it's kinda weird to hear you talk like that, especially since you know what these (((faggots))) are really like. They'll say they're not your enemy… right up until an IDF soldier is standing over your head. And don't forget, they want to turn Iran into post-ww1 germany(maybe worse). That is, if they don't destroy the whole world first.
>but they killed three of our high military ranksMore than three now...
>also yes i heard the BOOOM!!By the way, where was you? I was near Navab(Tehran) when I heard it.
Basically, right now is the time to get ready to fight them. Don't ever think that a war with them will end up benefiting the mullahs and the religious rulers! I don't care about those stupid unpatriotic people who believe this war can save Iran, they've been fooled by the kikes. But know this: destroying Israel will also mean the destruction of the mullah regime.
Look, before Israel existed, when did we ever have this nonsense of jihad, religious dictatorship, pan-arabism, and the mullah government??? Israel works like a magnet: its poles create opposite poles around it. If those faggots weren't here, there would never be an excuse for all this! One of the most important (maybe the most important) reasons for the 1979 revolution was the existence of Israel! If Israel never existed, all these conflicts wouldn't have happened: the mullahs wouldn't justify themselves with Israel's presence, the arabs wouldn't start their arrogance; Al-Qaeda, isis, and those other cursed so-called muslim groups wouldn't have appeared because of these conflicts! These jews are naturally destructive and disruptive people, and they ruined the whole region!
If Israel is destroyed, then the mullah regime won't have any real justification or excuse to stay! That way, we can easily get rid of this so-called religious government, stop Israel's influence during power shifts, and finally free the world from these cursed people!
So now, we have to fight. Forget about these mullahs and religious rulers, this is a national war! It's about the national interest! It doesn't matter what your religion or belief is, just like in the Iran-iraq war, being Iranian is what should be your reason to fight!
Good luck!
P.S: my net really sucks, again...
>>392347>Then you must conclude that incompetence and betrayal are in the Iranian blood.If you don't even know the difference between the mullahs and the Iranian people, it's better for you to shut up, yankee! My advice is to read some history books before you start talking nonsense.
And I suggest that instead of sticking your nose into other countries' business, you first control your own illegal rebels. At least the Iranians, even with this mullah regime, didn't let afghans cause uprisings in our cities!
Yanno I can't even blame Israel or Trump for siding with Israel when it comes to Iran. The big black buttplug of cuckery has been raised above the dome, again. The mood ring of cowardice has been worn.
They won't do shit.
>>392364Careful. If you keep shit talking Iran then the shaw will dawn the red hat of rage and we will really be in trouble.
>>392362>Look, before Israel existed, when did we ever have this nonsense of jihad, religious dictatorship, pan-arabism, and the mullah government??? Israel works like a magnet: its poles create opposite poles around it.We have term "sacred injury" for this. Ukraine and Baltic states for Russia, Pakistan for India, Taiwan for China. Controllable pain to shape internal politics of bigger country/coalition for decades. But what is the result? Muslims colonize Europe, their diasporas parasitize on welfare states and use all saved resources to political expansion. And Jewish bankers just use Israel to raise loyal employees.
I think some suffering for population and struggle for political regime are necessary for evolution. 'We' are started from 'They'.
>>392366>>392368>>392370It's true I didn't bet, but I want my money, niggers! Give me all!
Iran attacked!
It means a better war is coming...
>the black flag will fly above the dome
>>392216Better now, than never.
>>392387>mercury was in retrograde
>>392387You guys are getting a bit too excited.
Yes, Khamenei has his own strategic mindset, and I agree with him when it comes to Israel.
But on this issue! On many others, I disagree with him. Honestly, I'd rather not have someone like him running things.
Right now, I'm on the same side as him because Israel is threatening our national interests.
If Israel is gone, I see no reason to keep supporting him.
And yes! You should apologize to Iranians, because you forgot who they really are.
But I don't think there's any special reason to thank him, either.
To me, he's just a temporary leader, for a while.
>>392373Ironically, if Israel were to use the Samson option they would just nook a bunch of muzzies, niggers and jeets infesting every European capital. It has lost any deterrence it had.
>>392387Yep, the drones were probably a probing attack. They've now struck Tel Aviv, one of their Air bases and their military HQ in the second wave of attacks.
>The U.S. deployed F-22 raptors to Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar.>The USS Abraham Lincoln moved within striking range of Iran and launched 12 Tomahawk missiles targeting IRGC radar installations near Bandar Abbas, following the Tel Aviv and Haifa strikes.>The United States delivers an unprecedented warning to Iran:<“If you move to close the Strait of Hormuz, we will respond with nuclear force.”https://x.com/mog_russEN/status/1933617628779614639?t=AZtFn48k-TLgvMSiJcnJQQ&s=19 [Embed]America is already involved.
>>392397Grass is green, obviously.
Who thinks U.S isn't in the game, is absolutely dumb.
Israel couldn't do anything if U.S don't help it.
>>392399They're just protecting their military bases. No one cares about your sandnig squabbles.
>>392400>They're just protecting their military basesYou work in CNN, right?
Now that its started get it finished. No one in the region can stand against Israel so put an end to the idea that Iran has a nuclear program, end the suspense and tension, just get it properly bombed and move on. Left undone its just another thing for Americans to wring their hands and protest about.
>>392363>Then you must conclude that incompetence and betrayal are in the Iranian blood.>If you don't even know the difference between the mullahs and the Iranian people, it's better for you to shut up, yankee! My advice is to read some history books before you start talking nonsense.All right, if you refuse to take the truth from a yankee, then take it from a Russian.
Around the 7 minute mark:
"There is an incredible level of incompetence""Is there a donkey laden with shekels that walks to Tehran and bribes everyone? That would be a very Eastern thing to do".https://www.youtube.com/live/hxHhBx-HYWU
>>392410>Dmitry OrlovWho is this fucker? Why I don't see him on the rutube? Looks like another USAID trash.
Actual Russian expertise in this article, quite outdated, but close to informal view of our diplomatic school:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250512094048/https://shkolnikov.info/articles/11-analitika-i-prognozy/110169-ocherk-o-strategii-irana-shiitskogo-proekta-do-2035-goda
>>392406>CNNBoomer magatard detected.
>>392408Everything that destabilizes and hurts weimerica is a good thing and it should be dragged on for as long as possible.
Let's hope Iran becomes a money pit that overextends Zawg even more.
>>392400>No one caresSo what the fuck are you even doing here??! Go fuck your illegal rebel fucktards instead, if you don't give a shit. Maybe that'll keep you busy instead of wasting everyone's time here.
>They're just protecting their military bases.You just made me pull up that meme again, the one where an american (who, according to you, "shouldn't even care") is mocking america himself.
<Look at the image, asshole!>Your politicians team up with jews to create terrorist groups, attack themselves, use it as an excuse to shove their heads up the middle east's ass, spawn even more terror groups or let them rise, attack themselves again, and then get mad that it's all getting too expensive.You have built a fucking giant paradox by yourselves!
>your sandnig squabbles.<I really wish I could laugh at this ridiculous joke, but honestly, it's just the same old nonsense (thinking arabs and Iranians are the same and imagining all of Iran is just desert), sorry, faggot.But okay, let's just assume your delusion is true. If that's the case, you're basically admitting that some sand-niggers (as you call them) actually have that much power.
Thanks for the compliment, even if it's ridiculous, asshole.
>He's busy justifying another U.S intervention in an unrelated war, and he's probably happy that once again, America is about to bear huge costs and losses because of Israel.Now that I think about it, I guess you're not even American. You miserable kikes!
Don't choke yourself here. Trying to make Israel look like it's the victim (you were the one who sent the videos in thread) and pushing for U.S involvement just means you pissed yourself out of fear in your little rat hole.
Honestly, don't waste your effort here. At least fuck each other in the bunker, you might actually keep your population alive that way, just like the people you were bombing in Gaza. (karma's a bitch, huh?)
Bunkers must be cozy, right? We who are actually at war are enjoying the open air.
>>392406I wish he really worked at CNN, but it seems it's even worse than that.
>>392408>No one in the region can stand against (Israel, American forces, American and European weapons, American and European taxes and aid, and so on...)I fixed it for you.
Oh, by the way! Which side is hiding in the bunker right now, pissing themselves? What a tough question!!!...
>other bullshit about bombing...Okay, no problem if you want to share your little fantasy here, after all, dreaming isn't a crime for young people. But could you please tell me what exactly you mean by "properly bombed"?
I mean, I don't know… how exactly do you plan to wipe out a country that's several times larger, stronger, smarter, and more populated than gaza, a place you couldn't even fully handle??? Ok, nevermind. No need to think about your nonsense.
>its just another thing for Americans to wring their hands and protest about.Americans are going to protest, no matter what. So I think the better option is for you to just leave the region like decent people and stop dragging yourselves (and us) into this mess. It's better for your own skin too!
>He's happy that the U.S keeps getting itself into trouble and spending more just for Israel.>He sees also Americans as a bunch of clueless people who are always protesting something.Let me guess, another (((faggot)))...
>>392410>The dumb yankee doesn't realize that during the war, Iran's internet sucks and I can't connect to vpn to watch that damn video on youtube. And on top of that, this yankee actually thinks I'd believe some random vodka-drinker's story.Alright anyway, once the internet's back up, I'll go check it out (bilakh!).
But let me guess based on what's written:
>Some vodka-drinker thinks they have cracked the Davinci code and explained why the grass is green.How clever!!!
>The dumb yankee thinks that if there's a corrupt mullah government, then corruption is in all Iranian blood, still mixing up Iranians and mullahs.So, congrats!
By that logic, almost everyone's blood on earth (including yours) must be filthy, since jews have systemic corruption in every government (including yours!).
Thanks for teaching me this dumb inductive reasoning and ridiculous generalization!
>>392414Although the article had a few minor issues, overall it was acceptable. I agree with it as the truth and consider it to be true.
>>392415I think you seriously need a doctor...
>>392400>No one caresGTFO, you nihilistic demoralization fag. You don't have to post in this thread if you don't care.
>>392418Don't dirty your own blood. By the end of my message, I realized he's a full-on lunatic, even if he's not a nihilist jew.
>>392381Iran and Israel have exchanged strikes before and nothing happened. When war is declared I will say something has happened.
Just curious as to who enjoys this 'privilege'?
>>392421I think I know it.
That was flying in middle of india-pakistan war, too. I think they really don't care, or maybe something else...
>>392422>I think they really don't care, or maybe something else...They know they have a free pass. Otherwise they would be shoot down.
>>392420Sorry, do you really think these attacks are no different from the previous ones??! Israel has officially killed Iran’s top commanders, and Iran has attacked Israel multiple times and even taken their pilots hostage!
Both sides have declared war and have expressed intent to completely destroy each other!
What exactly are you waiting for to believe that "the war has started"??!
People like you are usually among the first to perish in a war. You keep saying nothing is happening until suddenly a nuclear bomb explodes right above your head.
Also, you said Iran won't do anything, and Iran did something! I win (however I didn't bet), give me the money!
>>392423Yeah, I know it isn't just chilling, I was kidding.
But I think, there's something...
I mean, bangkok isn't an important thing for Tehran, you know... Usually some Iranians go there for some "meat", what's the point then??
Video: Iran hitting tel aviv.
Israel is set to fall, and the Russians are aware of the plot.
The evacuation will begin and Ukraine will be the New Israel/Jerusalem.
By the way, Trump, Putin, the Iranian government, they are all on it. It is pretty obvious and these skirmishes are a show for the masses.
Translation:
>The beginning of the fourth stage of Washington's implementation of the Brzezinski strategy, if the third fails, will have disastrous consequences for the West. Israel and the United States will not defeat Iran, which will block the Strait of Hormuz, through which a quarter of the world's oil is transported. Its prices will soar, which will plunge the EU into a deep depression. This will destabilize the already unstable macroeconomic situation in the United States and negatively affect the American economy and financial system. Iran, with the support of its allies, including China, will deal a crushing blow to Israel. The exodus of millions of residents of this country to the right-bank Dnieper region, where the Russophobic Zelensky regime has already got rid of the local male population, will begin. The bloody clown will be forced into peace by his masters. All this was predicted three years ago and posted on this channel in the material What's Going on.
>>392424Israel has killed a top commander before, but the pilot hostages are new. And it looks like the Iran strikes actually killed people this time. Maybe it is happening.
>>392424Actually it looks like a war between elephant and whale. During first strike Israel launched about 200 missiles + decoys against Iran. Presumably JASSM or israeli copies of that kind of design. Even so, only 15 hits in Tehran and something like 40 reported across the other targets combined.
But JASSM number are limited. If Jews wants real war, they should use glide bombs. However this means heavy loses:
- USA vs Vietnam: 1 fighter per 160 sorties (modern air defense, USSR specialists)
- USA vs Iraq: 1 fighter per 1600-2070 sorties (weak old air defense, mostly technical losses)
- USSR vs Afghanistan: 1 fighter per 2300 sorties (neglible air defense, only technical losses)
- Russian vs Ukraine: 1 fighter per 500-1000 sorties (moderate old air defense, before UMPK)
Usually 0.5-2.6 sorties/day per jet possible. Looks like Israel uses less than 500 sorties and already lost one jet. India stops the operation after Vietnam level losses in first day. Russia don't risk to use aviation inside Ukrainian territory after first months of war (only glide bombs from 30-50 km distance, under protection of air defense). If this level of losses unsuitable for Russia, and Russian air force fail to cripple Ukrainian air defense and infrastructure, Israel undoubtedly cannot rely only on air force in this war.
>>392437Yeah, I agree. You have an ass for brain.
>>392438what does this signify? it's a link to some random telegram. in other words:
>source: my ass
>>392417>I can't connect to vpn to watch that damn video on youtube.You can use youtubetotranscript.com to extract subtitle from video.
But this video just another libtard trash. As well as this
>>392431. Why, in the name of their bloody god, kikes will starts evacuation to another war zone? They really wants to make uberjews from their childrens through suffering and strife? Or they are just crazy reptiloids with inhuman logic?.. Seriously, enough of this bullshit.
>>392440>Why, in the name of their bloody god, kikes will starts evacuation to another war zone?There is a very good reason why Putin drags the foot and doesn't ends the Ukrainian government: depopulation. Also why he is reluctant to take Odessa, because the kikes want that port for their new country's commerce. Regarding "a war zone", surely the hostilities conveniently end to accommodate the (((new comers))).
>>392441Do you just type any bullshit that pops into your head, or does any of this actually sound reasonable to you?
>>392442See
>>358136 →From the kikes' mouth. I expect you apologize, STFU, and go away for a while.
>ARROW-3 successfully intercepting Iranian ballistic missile in space Did Israel use a nuclear interceptor?
Third clip is from a declassified video from the late 90's. A nuke detonating in outer space. Notice how it looks pretty similar.
https://x.com/33SHAWN1/status/1933713059614454017?t=5_jwsjIYVJmKFOuKau3INw&s [Embed]>>392431They have a religious connection to Israel and it's geopolitically relevant due to oil and IMEC. Why would they change that for a war-torn shithole?
>>392444>in spaceKikes and sandniggers potentially causing kessler syndrome was not on my bingo card this year.
Jew F-35 shot down.
There are not confirmed news of actually 3 of them shot down.
>>392443>Igor Berkut As far as I can tell this guy is the "author" of a project called "Heavenly Jerusalem." This sketchy-looking page, taken from some sketchy-looking wiki and translated from Russian, is the only information I could find on the subject:
https://allll-net.translate.goog/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%98%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC_(%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wappThis is absolute gibberish. I can't find any reliable information about this guy at all.
>I expect you apologizeFor what? Why don't
you apologize for constantly shitting up the site with poorly-sourced schizo nonsense? We're trying to have an actual conversation here.
>STFU, and go away for a while.No u
>>392446Foid pilot reportedly survived and is currently held hostage by Iran.
>Fuentes' cameo in Iranian state TV
>>392448>currently held hostage by IranIs that how prisoners of war are called? Hostages????
Show your nose.
>>392446Given that the text is smeared and the engine is still lit, I think this is AI. I'd rather have someone with a phone take 10-20 seconds of footage of any crashed aircraft.
>>392462WTF lmao??! This is the most 4chaniest thing I've ever seen outta Iran!
Btw, Iran's army literally said they don't have any official social media account, so whatever the hell this is, it isn't an "official" channel.
But remember, official...
P.S: It may be fake.
How are "attacks on Israel" going to be any different from the endless false flag attacks the serpent worshipers have been inflicting around the world and locally?
They're just lusting for WW3 and mass death to accelerate the coming of their antichrist "messiah" in their temple they've already got all the materials and plans ready for. It's annoying how big their smorgasbord of lies to try on the world has become. If this lie doesn't pan out, they'll have alien invasions and endless fake diseases and food processing plants blowing up and dollar collapses and other false flag attacks and more to play with.
>>392353FFS, what a colossal waste of our money
>>392464Telegram owner was arrested in France year ago and then Telegram deleted all african-related russian channels (Wagner, African corp, even one of my friends blog afric_ylbIbka). At same time Telegram cooperate with Russian government. Some programmers works from Russia, some from Dubai. It's just unscrupulous weathercock under protection of our oligarchical faction, which still trying to maintain neutrality and outjews the jews.
>Tel Aviv
Reminder it is illegal to record military bases on Israel, especially the ones that are burning after they've been struck by ballistic missiles.
Maybe important news:
My parents, who live in Bandar Abbas, just called me and said they heard the sound of explosions and gunfire, probably anti-aircraft fire.
Is it possible that it came from American warships?
If so, then the U.S has become directly involved.
>>392469Nope. That wasn't from warships. Just another attack by faggots. And it seems they didn't hit the targets.
News:
Iran's attacking Israel, again.
Looks like they really mad today.
>>392469Do you have any pictures of the munition fragments? I heard about JASSM and AGM-114 (ground launched or drone) during first attack, but almost no reliable data from today. I want to help russian OSINT team to make detailed article about current attack.
There is article about previous escalation:
https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/1201265.html
>>392475So fucking beautiful. Thanks, Iran!
Yeah, this is serious. Haifa oil refinery.
So, apparently, Israel is aiming for total regime change in Iran.
>>392477>>392436No, unfortunately not. In fact, I personally only managed to catch the flash of Israeli bombs exploding in the sky twice at the right moment. And luckily, nothing has exploded too close to me so far. My parents are in Bandar Abbas, while I'm here in Tehran.
Let me point out something important:
Right before Iran launched its first wave of attacks last night toward Israel, the Iranian air defense suddenly started performing better, intercepting most of the incoming attacks. From what I've read (though keep in mind, since I'm on one side of this conflict, I can't guarantee that I get completely accurate and full info), apparently Israel had hacked Iran's integrated air defense network beforehand and disabled a large portion of it. That's why Iran couldn't respond properly during the first hours. But shortly before launching its own attack, Iran regained full control of its air defense, and from that point on, it started countering Israeli strikes much more effectively.
That shift has led Israel to focus more on drone operations inside Iran, something like how ukraine uses drones against russia.
This image is actually published by Iran's ministry of intelligence, telling civilians to report any suspicious activity involving vehicles like that. A lot of recent explosions seem to be caused this way. And apparently, it's been effective in helping catch several infiltrators, which could be useful for intelligence.
As for the point that Israel can't rely solely on air power, well, the truth is it doesn't really have much of a choice. Israel has invested heavily in its air force (thanks to all that tax money and american/european aid), so it's built its strategy around that. But in terms of ground warfare, Israel has almost no practical access to Iran, and even if it somehow gets involved on the ground, Iran's army would have the upper hand. The same goes for the naval front. Also, Iran's missile capabilities are superior to Israel's, which is why Israel is trying to strike from within.
Honestly, Israel's big mistake was playing most of its cards all at once. Sure, it got a hot start, but it also exposed the presence of its agents in Iran, used almost every type of weapon it had at hand, and fully revealed its attack strategy to Iran.
Now, as those internal infiltrators are being discovered and arrested, and Israel's offensive resources are running low, it's being cornered. What's left on the table are risky weapons, forced American intervention, or ultimately, nuclear war.
Iran, on the other hand, hasn't even used all of its military tools yet, and it's gradually gaining control of the situation. If things continue this way, this war is going to turn against Israel in the long run.
I really don't know what does Iran want from these attacks. It wants to make it so long and make Israel weak and then attack it with more risky weapons, or it's waiting until U.S or Russia do something?
>>392479>>392483I think the world's gonna have a bad energy crisis.
>>392484Yeah, that's been its goal from the beginning. But now it wants to do it directly and has openly admitted to it.
The thing is, Iran also has the same mindset as Israel.
It's very hard for a war like this to end unless one side is completely destroyed or truly surrenders.
>>392500I think Israel just intends to kill off the Iranian leadership and military capacity, and not care what chaos follows. It's easy to destroy things when you don't care about cleaning up your mess or the vast human suffering it will cause.
>>392483More kino just dropped.
>>392503>>392484Mossad's still inside Iran, they are using drones to continue striking Iranian leadership.
Regime change is out of the question tho. The Iranian population wants to see Israel burn now, the air strikes really pissed them off.
A list of Israel lobbying the war with Iran for many years.
>>392500>Right before Iran launched its first wave of attacks last night toward Israel, the Iranian air defense suddenly started performing better, intercepting most of the incoming attacks. From what I've read (though keep in mind, since I'm on one side of this conflict, I can't guarantee that I get completely accurate and full info), apparently Israel had hacked Iran's integrated air defense network beforehand and disabled a large portion of it. That's why Iran couldn't respond properly during the first hours. But shortly before launching its own attack, Iran regained full control of its air defense, and from that point on, it started countering Israeli strikes much more effectively.Thanks for this information. I'm empathize and almost forget about sleep. I want to share some information about enemy reconnaissance, which can be useful for Iranian military (high officers knows much more than I, but it can be useful for militia).
>Honestly, Israel's big mistake was playing most of its cards all at once. Sure, it got a hot start, but it also exposed the presence of its agents in Iran, used almost every type of weapon it had at hand, and fully revealed its attack strategy to Iran.>Now, as those internal infiltrators are being discovered and arrested, and Israel's offensive resources are running low, it's being cornered. What's left on the table are risky weapons, forced American intervention, or ultimately, nuclear war.I hope they don't have black swan card in sleeve like our Wagner's rebellion in 2023th. In Russia we have delimitation between media, military and economic elite groups. Military disallowed to have own media/economical basis, media insignificant without army/moneys, oligarchs bounded without media/army. Every single amalgamation begins splendidly, but then rapidly got out of control.
>I really don't know what does Iran want from these attacks. It wants to make it so long and make Israel weak and then attack it with more risky weapons, or it's waiting until U.S or Russia do something?Maybe this is also pressure on China and Russia to force them to aim diplomatic efforts to shut down Starlink inside Iran and Iraq territory.
Starlink actually war technology and most dangerous weapon in NATO arsenal. Communication for army and sabotage groups, video-link for drones, real-time control for cruise missiles. Starlink allows to use missiles like JASSM-ER to attack mobile targets, avoid air defense in real time, etc. Fortunately low-orbit satellites vulnerable to radiation, even few small nukes can kill them all within days/weeks without serious damage to high-orbit satellites.
Second biggest threat is FIA-Radar satellites. USA have 5 satellites Topaz series. In Ukraine they make around 100 radar-photos daily, each photo 10×18 km, 0.8 meter resolution (can easily detect vehicle type and tracks on the ground, can make 3d image from 2 photos). Any weather, day and night. Usually satellites makes 1 photo each hour in zone of interest. Cloth screen to hide weapon completely useless against FIA-Radar (but soldiers often make this mistake).
Ukrainian army received around 300 photos daily (2/3 optical, 1/3 radar). They make order to US intelligence and wait 12-24 hours for photos. This is unclassified information to know enemy capacities and limitations.
Also, first article about war is ready:
https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/1241624.html
From Twitter.
Iran is now aware of how Israel was getting the names of its nuclear scientists.
Classified Israeli documents obtained by Iran’s security apparatus show that IAEA (operated by the UN) chief Grossi disclosed to Israel the names, who were later assassinated.
>>392513>More kino just dropped.Like the air defense is useless junk.
>>392533There's something oddly satisfying about a cute anime gurl dancing to the idea that shit-skins and jews are killing each-other
>>392531They probably emptied many of their batteries intercepting the initial attacks.
>>392442>Do you just type any bullshit that pops into your head, or does any of this actually sound reasonable to you?The Russian prophet Zhirinovsky spelled it out many years ago. The jews have plotted their way back to Russia/Ukraine.
By the way, you didn't apologize yet.
Damage in Tel Aviv, Occupied Palestine.
Interesting detail. Israel uses German and Britain refueling tankers for their F-16 during 14-15 June. We already know two incidents with transponders. Meanwhile only US has modern refueling tankers fleet and organization for this kind of operations. Looks like jews gather every single accessible tankers, except american ones, because otherwise they would use only USAF tanker squadrons to lower risk for fighters and operation in general.
It seems Iran's attacking again.
Iranian security forces discover Israeli drone manufacturing facility deep inside Iran.
Israeli kamikaze drone manufacturing workshop seized by Iranian security forces
Pic: 2 Mossad agents shortly before their arrest by Iranian security services in Lar. No more info available at this time.
>Houthis damaged two U.S. Destroyers, prompting retaliatory air strikes. 3 U.S. F-16's were taken down by new Iranian air defenses during the operation.
>Russia air lifted S-400 systems to Iran. They now have 4 systems operational.
>Turkey is supplying Iran with parts for the S-400's and deployed two frigates to the Persian gulf.
>China brokered a $10 billion military aid deal with Iran.
>North Korea is literally launching ICBMS at Israel now.
Nothing ever happens chud has officially been defeated.
>>392608>No more info available at this time.Here it is. The jew terrorists surrendered after an Iranian cop on a bike chased them.
Iran claims it has captured two alleged Mossad operatives caught red-handed with parts for 23 drones, launch systems, targeting gear, controllers, and more than 200 kilograms of explosives.
>Anon ! Anon ! It's happening !
Best moment so far, ballistic missile strikes AD position near Haifa power plant. Clearly visible secondary explosion of launcher / munition / fuel. And then entire district electricity turned off (however for a short time).
https://files.catbox.moe/7m5kdl.MP4God bless Iran.
>>392736aussiebro that was looking for those sites must have given them the idea to look for themselves. I'm surprised Israel hasn't banned smart phones for that alone.
>>392748>I'm surprised Israel hasn't banned smart phones for that alone.Unreal. Too big urban population, too many muslims. Even hohols in Kiev needed a months for this. Meanwhile, looks like Iran shut down any access to external internet. No new posts with Iranian flag on 4chan from 15 June.
Kikes attacked a horse stable in Kermanshah, killed and injured over 50 horses.
>>392500>>392436I want to share some data about airstrikes efficiency. One Su-34 (45-ton frontline bomber) with 4-6 FAB-500 usually makes 3 airstrikes with 1.7 killed and 7 injured during sortie (despite enemy decoys, recon mistakes, bad timing, etc). For operational estimations we uses equivalent of 400 shells (152mm HE) for one Su-34 sortie and 300-600 shells for one Iskander ballistic missile strike.
During slow Syrian campaign Russian air forces uses 30.7k sorties through first 720 days of war, makes 92k airstrikes with Hephaestus aiming equipment on 29.5k targets and estimated 54k kills, 0.58 killed and 2.9 injured per airstrike. During fierce first day of recent Lebanon campaign Israel uses mostly F-16 (19-ton multirole fighter) makes about 400 sorties and 1600 airstrikes (2200 losses by Lebanon sources, 23% killed), so 0.31 killed and 1.7 injured per airstrike.
Israel has:
- F-35 -- 40/75
- F-16 -- 120/170
Total 160 Mission-Capable / 245 Combat-Coded (??? All)
USAF has:
- A-10C -- 76/109 (260)
- F-15E -- 85/164 (218)
- F-16C/D -- 219/309 (841)
- F-22A -- 63/110 (185)
- F-35A -- 127/194 (432)
Total 570 Mission-Capable / 886 Combat-Coded (2085 All)
Currently USAF has 1/3 number of Gulf war time air forces, about 1/3 technician personnel, 60% of combat readiness, around 50% flight hours per pilot. Munition mostly modern and numerous: during recent wars and excercises most of old munition was expended and between 2017-2024 together with F-35 rearmament USAF acquired and accumulated 130k precision-guided munition, equivalent of 13 millions shell, which means 40k sorties, 240k injured, 60k killed during month-long campaign. Total stocks up to 30M shells equivalent. I do not know much about US fleet and marine corp aviation, but they makes 16% sorties during Gulf war. Presumably they weaker than Israeli air forces.
Airstrikes almost useless against FPV-drone teams (which makes 75% losses). During Kursk offensive we estimated around 80 teams, but manage to kill just 10 of them (they always disguised as infantry or civilians). Significance of air forces for long-range strikes rapidly decreased during Ukrainian war. Nowadays we can make 300 shaheed-like drones daily with 200 kg payload by 10k dollars prime cost + 50 manhours assembling; while one Su-34 sortie cost around 60k dollars munition+fuel + 50k dollars to compensate aircraft and possible pilot loses + 100 manhours technician and other services. Overall, kamikaze-drones almost 2 times cheaper (especially if we uses expensive glide bombs with similar electronics anyway).
War was changed. I think most of armies in the world now wants to utilize old armament and reform organization as soon as possible. Risky operations are expected. Who cares about losses, if all current structures outdated anyway.
>>392790>Kikes attacked a horse stable in Kermanshah, killed and injured over 50 horses.F
>>392790>looks like Iran shut down any access to external internetIt may be related to the sleeper cells launching drones. Mirroring the same methodology than Ukrainians used to attack Russian air bases, the drone pilots were sitting beyond the country's border and piggybacking on the local internet for piloting the drones.
>>392791Thank you for your expertise.
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>>392793>Mirroring the same methodology than Ukrainians used to attack Russian air basesI do not know anything about cooperation between Ukrainians and Mossad. Looks like their containers for drones and methods different. Moreover second operation have bad timing (more than 250 hours after first one). Imagine situation, when group of very purposeful ukrainian officers create first operation fully on their own initiative and make show of it. All security services of the world began to check all trucks and containers, and Mossad operatives in Iran just did not have choices except starts their operation immediately.
>>392567So, this is why they used EU refueling tankers during first days, they just don't have time to relocate USAF tankers insensibly!
>>392789I wish I had that kind of money.
>>392800Look ain't gonna to preach but you need something better than a muh job.
>>>/ub/4034 →
>>392800That's only like a $200 tv
The Editor-in-Chief of the "Tehran Times" newspaper responds to Trump's call to leave Tehran:
"We will not evacuate the newspaper headquarters, nor Tehran."
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Video: The moment IsraHell struck Iran National Television
[YouTube] Watch moment Iran state TV live broadcast interrupted by Israeli air strike
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It really takes effort to make both sides of a conflict this irredeemable right out the gate. This is what they deserve for continually failing to tard wrangle their back-and-forth terrorism.
Propagandists on full blast.
Do not be intimidated by Bush-era neo-cons. Americans on the right have no obligation to support Israel. America first.
I hope you have all ordered your white feather head dresses! When that bitch gives you a feather add it to the head dress. I for one will not be shamed into fighting for Israel.
Kikes overcame 4chan defense. No more comfy threads, only pigs around.
>>392820didn’t the hack reveal that 50% of posts on /pol/ were from Israel?
Honestly this war is so depressing. Israel seems to always get its way. Fuck me for falling for MAGA 3.0
>>392821>didn’t the hack reveal that 50% of posts on /pol/ were from IsraelWhy yes, that IS what the meta-data suggested
>>392821I think that pic was fake still even 1 kike is far too many.
If true, support your local Christian Zionist.
The jews have a problem with a limited missile stockpile. Soon they will run out.
>video
Earlier tonight (Tuesday), the IRGC tested an advanced Fattah-1 hypersonic missile against Israel’s air defenses in Tel Aviv.
In total, 12 different Israeli interceptor missiles were launched, but due to the complex maneuvering and high speed of the Fattah-1, it passed through all of them.
>>392912The difference between those in the stonetoss is, one of them follows a religion that says kill or convert everyone and there is no higher reward than dying in the name of it and the other is a despot.
>>392922That applies to both of them.
>>392790>looks like Iran shut down any access to external internetConfirmed.
>>392820Pretty sure the hack made real human anons leave, so the already egregious botting problems of /pol/ became even more egregious.
I'm still impressed and disturbed that the insane loons borne of social media circlejerks and literal cult brainwashing came to irrationally hate the contract-binding, swindling, evil kikes of israel more than I ever could from the bottom of my heart.
>>392910>Ted CruzShabbos goy.
Looks like Starlink inside Iran still working. This is Iranian counterspace weapon. One of Sejil series, probably Zuljanah. Effective only with nuclear EMP warhead, of course. So, this is demonstration.
>>392952The video speaks for itself.
Tbh, I have to give Tucker Carlson credit for forcing normies republicans to question America's unwavering servitude to Israel. This is one of the best things he's done since he interviewed Thomas Massie about how every congressmen has an "AIPAC guy", and the interview with the Gazan priest about how Israelis mistreat Christians.
It's a step in the right direction, as fragmenting Republican support for Israel serves to eventually rob Israel of allies entirely. His questioning skills have also improved since that interview with Putin.
>>392216Summarization of ballistic missile barrage:
- About 400 ballistic missiles during 5 days (≈15% stock)
- Damaged Hadera and Carmel power plants. 2/9 plants halted.
- Damaged both Ashdod and Haifa refineries. Month-long repair for second one.
- Gas platforms on Leviathan and Karish gas fields are halted (from 13 June)
- About 100 buildings destroyed or seriously damaged.
- 3 clearly visible strikes on air defense sites.
(2) Coal Power Plants:
Hadera 2.56GW✅ (unknown damage, halted)
Ashkelon 2.25GW
(7) Gas Power Plants:
Ramla 1.33GWMt.
Carmel (Haifa) 1.02GW✅ (turbine was seriously damaged)
Dalia 0.86 GW
Ashkelon 0.80GW
Tazfit 0.60GW
Ramat 0.52GW
Mishor 0.44GW
(2) Refineries:
Haifa ✅ (Hadera power plant halted + unknown damage)
Ashdod ✅ (magistral pipeline damaged + unknown damage)
I scan mostly catbox links, russian /wm/ thread and few kikes blogs, so this it's only my view and part of picture. Israel has 7 gas power plants and 2 coal power plants. Currently Hadera 2.56GW coal power plant halted and no gas from platforms for others. I think jews block pipelines before occurrence just in case.
About Israeli air forces. Almost no data, but looks like 50-100 active fighters and 100-200 combat sorties daily (200% of our Syria level, around 80% of Avdiivka operation level). They focused SEAD effort around Kermanshah province with F-16 from Iraq territory and F-35 drops bombs around Tehran from there. Somewhere between Qazvin and Hamadan (120 km from border), if they use SDB with 80-120 km range, or from Kermanshah (60 km from border), if they made something new like our UMPB with booster and 200 km range.
If they have some support inside Iran (like azerbaijanians), this is time. Otherwise deescalation within month even with USA support. I think USAF has only one objective in this situation, provoke Iran to close Persian Gulf and then bomb all oil infrastructure to cripple China's industry. Even poor Saudi. This is just better opportunity than Malacca blockade.
If Trump refuses war, progressives will meltdown and there will be hundreds of thousands protesters attacking the cops and demanding immediate invasion of Iran plus an end to fascism.
>>392957I think he's under bigger pressure from Republicans right now.
>>392956>About Israeli air forces. Almost no data, but looks like 50-100 active fighters and 100-200 combat sorties dailyAccording to the Russian ambassador at the UN, the jews are flying from the British Akrotiri air base in Cyprus.
>>392959This explains quite few number of sorties and concentration of refueling tankers. Though I used IDF sources and comparison to war in Ukraine to estimate number of active fighters. Usually our Su-34 spends 2.5 hours on sortie with 1800 km flight distance (900 km combat range), then 3 hours refuel/rearm/technical/rest and mission again. Also 2 sorties per day during first month of war very hard for pilot and even harder for aircraft and technical staff. Typical routine 1 sortie per day.
>>392963A Buk battery in Syria might be handy.
>>392964Russians elites sympathize with Israel. Kikes hated by general public, our elites quite orthodox too, but they still remember moments, when old church dynasties outjews the kikes. First time when used communist international to gather funds to build USSR industry in 1930s. Second time when helps european jews to create Israel, and create "sacred injury" for all jew tribes. Kikes just can't left their holy country in distress, but makes situation even worse, because of their arrogance. Russia uses position of mediator between muslims and zionistes and don't want to lost this beneficial status. So, I don't except direct help to any side, only peacekeeping efforts.
Jews elites has three tribes (actually groups of families with different schools to educate stable strong generations). We use own classification for them: Pharisees partially control USA, sadducees partially control Britain, essenes control Israel. Looks like sadducees and essenes join efforts to secure Israel future, but pharisees have their own problems. Sometimes we too focused around kikes and just don't see rising powers. Indians nowadays second richest diaspora in USA, they control western IT and swarming low/mid positions in intelligence services. Latinos only one faction in the world who has complex conservative-left project and new attractive economical ideas, but they focus efforts to unite USA with South American nations.
And jews, they just like Cozy. Destructive, yes. Psychopathic, delusive, mean. But still sometimes cute. Like hackers, who exploit all systems around and involuntarily makes our world more durable. Maybe through destruction and rebirth, but better than just rot into nothing. They show us not only their kikery but hidden structural problems. They are tonsils of world organism.
>>392967>Like hackers, who exploit all systems around and involuntarily makes our world more durable. Maybe through destruction and rebirth, but better than just rot into nothing. They show us not only their kikery but hidden structural problems.Well, the average kike is the equivalent of a lowlife gypsy, but with class. Their intelligence is a bit above the average White, which I attribute to their paranoid nature. But the entities running the organized jewry are a totally different stock, here we enter into the realm of the paranormal because there is not a rational explanation for the paralysing spell they casted on the whole word.
There is a theory that if history is fake and kikes are the managers designated by the controllers to run the plantation, then the controllers have an extraordinary knowledge on the human nature, political systems, and the impact of rolling out a technology from the shelves; like history resets every a few thousand years and humanity starts again from the caves.
Direct hit. Israeli army command and cyber operations center under Soroka hospital. Because fuck jews.
Also, just one missile and 28 attempts to intercept. Because fuck jews.
https://files.catbox.moe/exvbfu.mp4
>>392971>An Iranian ballistic missile directly struck Soroka Medical Center, southern Israel's largest hospital, on Thursday morning, causing significant structural damage but resulting in no serious injuries, according to hospital and state officials.>The strike, part of a wider barrage targeting central and southern Israel, hit an older surgical building that had been evacuated just a day prior on instructions from the Health Ministry, a move credited with preventing a major disaster.Nevermind, just another kikery. They even can't fuck themselves properly! Also, their media blockade starting to work, no video from city this time.
>>392469Bongistani F-35 landed in Thiruvananthapuram International Airport India 15 June and still there 19 June. Maybe from squadron, who attack Bandar' Abbas 14 June.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-decide-us-action-israel-iran-conflict-within-two-weeks-white-house-says-2025-06-19/>Trump to decide on US action in Israel-Iran war within two weeks, White House says>two weeksNothing ever happens chuds are so back!
Iran hits one of the jews' holiest sites, the stock exchange.
>>392990>two weeksIt is the time they need to cook something.
I believe it has to do with the more of 30 re-supply air tankers the USAF moved to Europe a couple of days ago. Together with moving some destroyers and submarines to position them to hit Iran with a missile barrage.
>>392991>Iran hits one of the jews' holiest sites, the stock exchange.Top kek
>>392990Hopefully it's two weeks as established by the coof and not two weeks as established by reality.
>>392990Two weeks to try and build a convincing narrative to create some semblance of popular support? (And yes that will likely be a false flag)
>>392980>their media blockade starting to work, no video from city this time.They must do it because Occupied Palestine is beginning to look like Gaza.
>On the street of Tel Aviv :
>israeli minister Ben-Gvir - 'Why did you provoke Iran ?'
>The head of Mossad, Barnea - 'I didn't know that Iran had such missile capabilities'.
This is the essence of Clownworld. Arrogance, malice, incompetence, fakery.
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/507965367/pol/acks on the father board are openly helping Iran locate israeli AA.
If you have info, do your part.
>>392995>it's two weeks as established by the coof That meme is older than lockdowns, newfag.
What a time to be alive...
>>392999Sorry but this happened in 2022. It is not related to Iran and is fake news.
BOOOOORING just start using nukes already
>>393041>nukesPray for Israel, Saudi-kun!
>>393044If the filly in that image actually called me by "*insert*-kun" i would cum instantly, in fact, i'm getting bricked up by this thought alone
Hello everyponer.
There are hundreds of charlatans and self-titled "analysts" talking about current international events, most of them are total shysters and have no freaking idea of what they are talking about. But the below guy Martyanov has been
always on target, even years in advance, like he peers into the future. In the following interview he describes what are the most likely scenarios for Iran and USA. Also he tells about details on weaponry and inner government squabbles.
I recommend him.
WW3? Will USA Attack Iran? - Andrei Martyanov LIVE Russian military expert - AU 390[YouTube] USA & Israel v Iran! Escalation to WW3? - Andrei Martyanov LIVE Russian military expert - AU 390
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(((British))) chutzpah.
Send the Air Force One to fly us back to England.
>>393064Fuck off, we're full.
>>392216>>392956I think, Israeli air campaign is purely opportunistic and media focused:
- Gulf war, 18M population, ??? GDP PPP -- 1100 fighters, 1600 combat sorties daily, 62% strikes, 35 days
- Libyan war, 6.5M population, 135B GDP PPP -- ??? fighters, 118 combat sorties daily, 42% strikes, 220 days
- Syrian war, 18M population, 141B GDP PPP -- 60 fighters, 80 combat sorties daily, 53% strikes, 720 days
- Ukrainian war, 33M population, 590B GDP PPP -- 200 fighters, 200 combat sorties daily, 40-60% strikes, >1200 days
- Iranian war, 86M population, 1600B GDP PPP -- 100-200 fighters, 100-200 combat sorties daily, 40-60% strikes
During first months of Ukrainian war Russian air forces makes about 30% of damage to enemy (0.8/2.6 million 152mm HE shell equivalent monthly). The whole NATO can maintain about 350-700 combat sorties daily with 20-30% SEAD sorties and 40-60% strike sorties inside Iranian borders, because of logistic limitations, especially refuelling. They need to restore reserve aircrafts, train technical personnel, build more airfields, gather supplies, spend about 1-2 years on preparation. You just can't expect any result with 20% of necessary air forces without ground support against such Leviathan.
Israeli air campaign looks like some sort of distraction/support for coup attempt. They can't gather more opposition, agents and resources inside Iran, their capabilities starting to decrease. So why not try even with 5% chance to success, if otherwise this chance will be decreased rapidly in following years. This similar to first stage of Ukrainian war: rapid escalation with small chances of success, because why not, if alternative is bad anyway.
Chronology:
- 19 May 2024 -- Iranian president Raisi was killed in helicopter crash.
- 26 June 2024 -- Iran finish railroad between Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf.
- 19 May 2025 -- Railroad between Iran and China was finished (15 days vs 30 days through Malacca)
- 13 June 2025 -- Attack on Iranian Revolutionary Guards command structure with support of Bahai cult agents.
>>393063>Andrei MartyanovAir defense retiree officer who translates ideas from aftershock.news and global aventure project (quite popular forums for our government-related boomers). He lives in Seattle from early 2000s. A little version of Douglas MacGregor. Actually not bad, I listen some of his speeches during first stage of Ukrainian war, but he is too focused around USA politics instead of military expertise.
About Russian-Iranian military alliance. Maybe possible. Kikes operations rapidly activates here. Right now they trying to blackmail friend of my party through head of a university to make pro-kikery article about war. He is expert of oriental studies and they just activate team in university to disturb his department. They were waiting during Gaza war, they were waiting during Lebanon campaign, but attacks immediately after 16 June. Also, they threaten logistic companies with Iranian contractors.
Quite sad, if Russia cast aside our beneficial neutrality. Currently we have 2/3 economy under control of state corporations, but 1/3 GDP and significant part of civil government still in jewish hands. In recent two decades we replaced them slowly without losses and unnecessary blood. Not because of morality, just lost generation and lack of trusted specialists.
>>393000Okay, middle eastern poners, if you have information about their operations (like blackmailing, Bahai cult organizations, logistics, contractors), you can do your part for real:
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>>393079>About Russian-Iranian military alliance. Maybe possible. Kikes operations rapidly activates here.There is some normie brainstorming on it.
>The Presidents of Russia and China Announce the Cardinal Points of the Obvioushttps://www.unz.com/article/the-presidents-of-russia-and-china-announce-the-cardinal-points-of-the-obvious/But if the kikery in the White House and Kremlin is to be noticed, then Rolo Slavskiy won't disappoint.
>Putin Will Save Iran Any Day Now! https://slavlandchronicles.substack.com/p/putin-will-save-iran-any-day-now>Why Do Illiterate Conspiracy Kooks and Cranks (bad) Think Putin (patriot!) is a Traitor to Russia?https://slavlandchronicles.substack.com/p/why-do-illiterate-conspiracy-kooks
>>393081>But if the kikery in the White House and Kremlin is to be noticed, then Rolo Slavskiy won't disappoint.Some snippets.
>>393082Putin is a famous jew-lover. He collect comically worst kikes, allows them to make shows on tv and have their own economic projects. If you are absurdly incompetent jew, you will be welcomed. Otherwise, definitely not. If you can't overcome worst filth of the essenes tribe, how can you expect victory against noble ones? As wine-maker say: "Vine should suffer."
>>392529>>392956>Somewhere between Qazvin and Hamadan (120 km from border), if they use SDB with 80-120 km rangeConfirmed.
Some details:
- All active Iranian airforces was hidden before war.
- Two destroyed F-14 (Tehran airport) actually disassembled in 2022-2023.
- One destroyed Boeing 707 refuelling tanker (Mashhad airport) active craft.
- 6-10 cobra helicopters (Kermanshah airport) disassembled and under repair.
Second article about war:
https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/1242640.html
>>393089Those vintage airplanes…
>>393094God fucking damnit!
>>39309422 June 1941 4:00 AM. Date when German aircrafts bomb USSR and The Great War was started.
>>393099Same than USA. Society is divided and one faction wants the destruction of the other.
The Jews in Occupied Palestine are not crying out to their Messiah for help, but to the USA.
>The chosen ones are fleeing the “promised land” and go home all over the world! #iran [YouTube] The chosen ones are fleeing the “promised land” and go home all over the world! #iran
[Embed]This video is satire and pure gold. The victim card is denied.
>>393104That's cause they don't have one
It's impossible to invade Iran, that's why regime change must come from the inside.
>Israel genocides Gaza.
>Israel surprise attacks Iran during negotiations.
>Trump, against the NPT, demands zero enrichment
Now Trump get on TV and calls Iran a bully.
This is exactly what is meant by gaslighting. Its a narcissistic trait.
>Don't believe your lying eyes.
>>393111>gaslighting>Its a narcissistic traitChecked.
Given that Trump is an actor playing his role, I'm wondering if when he reads from the teleprompter the speech written by the jew; gaslighting gets turbo charged.
Oh God!!! You guys posted so much!
I just managed to connect to the international internet with the help of one of my IT friends.
I think I need to catch up on all the content I missed over the past few days first, and then spam the thread with a bunch of messages in a few hours.
It finally worked!
(Right, I'm the Iranian guy)
Putin was asked why he is not assisting Iran.
His response: “Israel today is almost a Russian-speaking country, two million people from the Soviet Union and Russia live there. We take that into account.”
>>393094>We have completed our very successful attack>All planes are now outside of Iran air space>NOW IS TIME FOR PEACEWhat a piece of propaganda crap.
1- The American media was talking about bunker-buster bombs which is absurd. The American planes launched missiles from outside the air defense bubble protecting Iran and they cannot penetrate any subterranean installation. Missiles are too small and their payload is tiny for the task required.
2- No American plane entered the Iranian air space because is a suicidal mission. It would require an air campaign of days if not weeks to destroy radar installations and air defense missile launchers, before regular bombers can flight inside Iran without being shot down.
3- Declaring victory and claiming of looking for peace is baloney, the refueling air tankers that flew from America to Europe were moved for a reason, the long bombing campaign described above is already planned and is waiting to start.
>>393124Trump just declared a war. 22 June 4:00 AM. This is fucking serious.
>>393128It's just a police action; nothing need come of it.
>>393130You are not understand. Just imagine, if Trump burn bible on live broadcast. This is equivalent of 22 June 4:00 AM bombing. I was participate in 9 may parade in one of southern cities, we have some kind of ancestors cult "The eternal regiment", when descendants of war veterans carry photos of grandfathers. So, I just stand near the street with stop-watch and count up number of citizens in procession. Thousands and thousands, 25% of city population with relatives, killed in Great War. Just imagine this number. And now Trump spit in face every single of them.
This is not just challenge, this is crusade from now.
>>393133Nope, I am not understand.
we didn't declare war, we fixed a problem. It should be done now. All Persia needs to do is stop trying to vaporize the world and we can be done now.
>this is crusadeWhelp, it was nice knowing you then. Bye.
>>393135There's a lot more going on than what you're willing to take notice of.
Iran was set up by Killary; part of the U1 scandal that Comey will have to answer for later. This step was needed to cut off the tumor we'd let grow, blinded by the fake-news mainstream.
A lot of terrible open-secrets will need to be cleaned up to free the Iranians to fight for their freedom to be Persia again. No, that's not our deal but we're part of the problem, and Trump has been chosen by the People to make it actually happen.
>>393136>Iran was set up by Killary; part of the U1 scandal that Comey will have to answer for later.I don't care.
>This step was needed to cut off the tumor we'd let growIsrael is a bigger tumor. Bomb them instead.
>blinded by the fake-news mainstream.You use right wing terminology like buzzwords, but your words are poison. Glow harder.
>A lot of terrible open-secrets will need to be cleaned up to free the Iranians to fight for their freedom to be Persia again.None of our business.
>we're part of the problemDon't care.
>Trump has been chosen by the People to make it actually happenThis is not what we voted for. Fuck off with your Bush-era neocon globohomo faggotry.
>>393137>don't care.Then stop talking as if you did.
>This is not what we voted for.I voted for freedom. You glow.
>>393138>Then stop talking as if you didNo. I will speak however I please. I care about the USA not getting involved in sandnigger wars, especially not for the protection of Jews.
>I voted for freedom. You glow.Lol, lmao even. Shill harder glowie.
>>393130You Glownigger chucklefucks couldn't even beat the Taliban after 20 years of fighting.
The result of your war with Iraq was ISIS.
And now you want us to believe that ama war with a country 8 times the size of Iraq will go smoothly? For Israel's benefit?
You sit on a throne of lies. Fuck off.
>>393139>I will speak however I pleaseI don't care if you speak, I care if you lie to yourself. You do care.
>Shill harderI posit that MLPOL, of all places, is not for circle jerking. It is for open consideration.
And we've been the source of sandnigger aggression for a long, long time. It needs to be done right, because of the lies used to get them built up.
>>393140>couldn't even beat the TalibanThat's mostly because we were paying them. Trump shut them down in his first term by cutting off their supply of tax money.
>war with a country 8 times the size of Iraq There's no war; at least not from the US - Europe might take offense, the globohomos won't go down quietly, but that bombing wasn't a war, it was a warning.
>You sit on a throne of lies. Fuck off.That's rich. Also, again, this is MLPol. Its okay if we disagree with each other.
>>393141>You do care.I literally could not care less about Iran.
I would be thrilled if Israel were destroyed though, so I guess I care about that.
>I posit that MLPOL, of all places, is not for circle jerking. It is for open consideration.Glowpigs like you show up to shill every time Israel is in major news. Do you get a budget boost every time that happens?
>And we've been the source of sandnigger aggression for a long, long time.Yes, like funding Israel. Stop funding Israel.
>It needs to be done right, because of the lies used to get them built upIt doesn't need to be done at all. Let Israel fend for itself.
Or better, destroy Israel. That is the one war I would support.
>That's mostly because we were paying them. Trump shut them down in his first term by cutting off their supply of tax money.I know how it happened, you nitwit. Point still stands.
>There's no war; at least not from the USBombing someone is an act of war.
If Russia bombed the USA, but didn't declare war, would you call it a war?
>the globohomos won't go down quietly>globohomosYou are a disgraceful parasite, spitting buzzwords without knowing their meaning.
Get better material.
>That's rich. Also, again, this is MLPol. Its okay if we disagree with each other.Sure, you can disagree, and I will call you out every time.
Sit tight on that throne. You're kind will be eradicated.
>>393142>If Russia bombed the USA, but didn't declare war, would you call it a war?Depends on what happened the next day. We might declare war on them, but if nobody declared war, and no other bombings happened, it was just posturing.
You've never gotten punched for walking out of a bar? That's not a fight if the other person just keeps walking.
>you are kind willSo close.
SO close.
>>393143>You've never gotten punched for walking out of a bar? That's not a fight if the other person just keeps walking.Punching someone is provoking a fight.
It really is true, isn't it? The Jew really does cry out in pain as he strikes you.
The Seinfeld days are over, kike. Your tricks don't work on us anymore.
https://www.jns.org/iaea-no-radiation-spike-after-iran-nuclear-site-strikes/The U.S. may well have wasted most of their inventory of the largest conventional bombs ever made and failed to do anything significant.
>>393123I'm so glad to see you again. Any insider news? Pretty please! We are starving here.
I'm trying to make timeline of bombings and air defense activities to determine main vector of attack, structure of air operation and number of active aircrafts per day. I gather some data from 4chan (news + timing), but I have only one friend who can confirm/deny from Iranian sources.
Table:
https://paste.debian.net/plainh/ced6bbe4
>>393148>I'm trying to make timeline of bombings and air defense activities>and air defense activitiesThat info can get irananon executed very fast.
>>393149>That info can get irananon executed very fast.That is a sacrifice that Israel is willing to make.
But, seriously, I mean Air Raid Alarms, like Ukrainian ones. Actually very usefull data.
That's an odd thing to say.
>>393126>The American planes launched missiles from outside the air defense bubble protecting Iran and they cannot penetrate any subterranean installation. Missiles are too small and their payload is tiny for the task required.Confirmed. America shot 30 old Tomahawk missiles. It was all a propaganda operation.
>the refueling air tankers that flew from America to Europe were moved for a reasonConfirmed. American planes are massing in Saudi Arabia. War is going to get real soon.
PUTIN EXPLAINS SITUATION WITH IRAN:
- Iran agreement does not have a defense clause
- Iran does not ask Russia for help
- Iran did not want to cooperate with Russia on air defense previously
Iran fights the fight alone, they’re proud and want to be self reliant.
jewess influencer who mocked Palestinian victims gets bombed by Iran, her home got destroyed.
>>393166Karmas coming home to roost.
>>392216>>393078I noticed one thing. They always trying to show that you are nothing, but take a look at their operations: false flags, elections frauds, distraction and assassination. Almost entirely psychological warfare, the cheapest form of war. Maybe they just don't have resources for other kinds of war?
I know 4 types of warfare:
- War of Ares -- military campaign, intimidation.
- War of Athena -- trade war, blockade, war of attrition.
- War of Apollo -- psychological warfare, ideology, media.
- War of Venus -- reproduction, education, replacement, genocide.
Main difference between types of warfare not methods, but time. War of Ares is blitzkrieg. War of Athena may last for years to strangle enemy economy. War of Apollo lasts through decades to reprogramming next generation. War of Venus erase nations through hundreds of years.
During 19th and early 20th century Old Europe was extremely effective in war of Ares/Athena/Apollo, but underestimated Venus aspect and fail miserable to growing USA and USSR. The Cold War was mostly war of Athena and USSR expected victory after Vietnam, because of oil crisis and better energy efficacy, but suddenly makes a row of bad decisions, lost economical war tempo and fail to western media. Contrary to general opinion, fail of Soviet Union was based not on economical problems, but on ideological treachery.
Early 21th century was period of almost pure psychological warfare: social networks, color revolutions. Every single western military campaign was supported by fifth column on the ground with small number of high-tech aviation and economical pressure. Only after 2020s Russia turn the tide to traditional military confrontation and USA with China recently show us classical trade war. I think, during 2020s psychological operations will be transformed from major offensive instrument to support role in military warfare. During stormy 2030s Ares and Athena will prevails with predominance of Ares aspect.
Combination of Shahed drones for long-range barrage and FPV-drones for tactical defense returned warfare to early 20th century. Drone warfare revolution just like artillery revolution during World War 1. Difference in distances. We don't need strongpoints to control frontline, now we have 5-10 km of dead zone between sides and less than 15 soldiers per square kilometer in following 50 km zone. Heavy vehicles almost useless: you can breach line, but you can't hide your tanks without prepared shelters in following days. FPV-drone teams on civilian cars have much better mobility and camouflage. Combined arms battalion even worse than infantry battalion because of more engineering preparations and hardest logistics (shells+artillery+fuel 10 times heavier than drones+car with equal efficacy). Offense too costly compared to war of attrition, but armies must be numerous to endure losses and psychological pressure of drone warfare.
Modern country can draft 5% population maximum (25% of healthy mans). For 10 million Israel army limited by 0.5 million. This is enough for 600 km frontline, but Israel has horrible borders with neglible strategical depth. This is why jews so desperately trying to secure borders of their holy country and weaken every single competitor in region. They just don't have numbers for war of Ares and influence on nearest factions to make muslims fight for them. With air support of 100-200 combat sorties daily Israel can't endure pressure of 0.5 million army with bases in Iraq and Syria, with 2000 FPV-drone teams, 8 millions of FPV-drone strikes and 400k loses with 80k KIA during year-long war. Russia can train such number of Iranian drone teams in 2 years and 8 million of drones means just 200k ton of munition, which can be transported easily through Iran-China railroad (though 0.5 million army logistics with 200-300k ton/month other supplies through Iraq and Syria under airstrikes will be much more tricky than Israeli sea logistics).
I think jews considered threat of drone warfare very seriously and ready to any treachery to harm Iran just because of Iran-China railroad. Egypt can be blocked and starved, Turkey can be blocked and politically unstable, but Iran has two secured supply routes with China and Russia. If USA starts military campaign to block South China Sea, Israel will be in peril, because it is weak spot for american jews.
BREAKING NEWS: IRAN ATTACKED U.S' BASES IN QATAR!!!
>>393169Six missiles, all intercepted.
Big deal.
If only the jews weren't so hasty in bribing their way to holding jerusalem, they wouldn't have to stress themselves over irate muslims every day. I reckon living in half-glassed desert for a whole century has really dented the minds of the people there.
No joke, I'm really starting to think Trump is "خدازده"! (Persian term)
Why the fuck did he say this??! Does he still hope to win the nobel peace prize???
He says once he doesn't want to go to war, then says he won't go to war for two weeks, then says Iran needs to come back to the negotiations, then says the regime in Iran has to be changed, then says peace has to happen. And now he's acting like everything's over with a happy ending. Does no one drug test this guy? This isn't some multi-dimensional chess anymore, Trump's trying to fool Iran, Israel, Europe, America, his own cabinet, and even himself! I swear, Trump's playing checkers with chess pieces or something!
>>393175Welp, if this doesn't earn him the Nobel Peace Prize then nothing will.
>>393176Honestly, in my opinion, the nobel peace prize is the dumbest nobel award and just makes the whole scientific foundation look like a joke. But Trump can't just attack Iran (not even with a false flag) and then suddenly end the war all at once.
If anyone can start a war and then say they want peace, so does that mean if, say, Khamenei suddenly declares peace, he's suddenly a nobel peace prize candidate? I think Trump totally blew his chance, and the peace prize isn't *that* dumb anymore to give it to someone as controversial as him.
>>393177Yeah, but they gave one to Obama simply because he wasn't George W. Bush.
>>393175>Why the fuck did he say this?>He says once he doesn't want to go to war, then says he won't go to war for two weeks, then says Iran needs to come back to the negotiations, then says the regime in Iran has to be changed, then says peace has to happen.My suspicion is advanced schizophrenia powered by dope.
>>393175PEACE through RAPE
>>393166she was definately tempting fate there lol
>>393175Because he's a fat retarded annoying orange schizo, you do know that right?
Alright anons, I was working on a few long-ass replies to cover most of the earlier posts, but for now I gotta drop some takes in this critical moment:
First off, I always saw this war with the U.S as some gay slap-fight, but the one with Israel is at least a bit more serious.
Right now, neither Iran nor Israel really has decent air defense. Israel, with all its bragging about "iron dome this, iron beam that" is getting smacked around and can't even intercept most of Iran's incoming stuff. So basically this war has turned into a no-guard boxing match, and here's the kicker:
Everyone kinda knows that in a war of attrition, Iran wins in the long run. Israel's small. No depth, no real capacity for prolonged direct warfare like Iran does.
So when Israel felt the heat, it dragged the U.S in. And what did America do? A gay little show strike, hit a couple empty nuclear sites, and we're not even sure if they hit anything important. Iran then responded with its own show strike, hitting America's biggest base in the region, which was also empty.
(For
>>393171 ,a few missiles hit something, there's footage going around despite the censorship, but still, not much effect. Just theater.)
IMO, Trump's trying to toss the ball into Iran's court, pretending like he's not the one escalating, but it's laughable.
I'd say there's a 98% chance Iran won't go for peace (2% chance they might, cause let's be real, Iran's got some dumbass politicians who might fall for the bait). Trump probably still doesn't get how nationalist Iran is right now, he thinks Iranians are just gonna chill and be grateful or something.
My prediction: Trump wants to stall things and give Israel time to recover (even though numerically, Israel took more damage). But unlike Israel, Iran doesn't live off foreign taxpayers' money. So the U.S will probably push for internal regime change, more likely than a direct strike. That's the most realistic scenario if Iran falls into that 2%.
As of now, Iran most likely won't accept peace and will keep going, probably without hitting the U.S again, instead doubling down on attrition against Israel. And even if the U.S goes full rogue and assassinates Khamenei, whether peace happens or not, I don't think the regime falls. His more radical son would likely take over and might even order an actual nuke strike.
And if they take out his son too? Then it's game over, Iran becomes a straight-up pissed-off military regime, even more dangerous for Israel.
Honestly, I think the reason Khamenei hasn't been taken out yet is because both the U.S and Israel know he's been the one guy stopping an all-out atomic war.
So yeah, it all comes down to whether Iran chooses that 2% or the 98%.
>>393183You're riding khamenei's cock too much, he's not that much of a keeping things cool guy he's no different than his son or other iranian generals
>>393179We're talking about the nobel foundation here. A democrat or someone on the left has always had a better shot at winning than a republican or anyone on the right. The nobel is so left-leaning, they wouldn't give that prize to Trump even under normal circumstances, let alone now!
>>393184I don't think you actually know my stance on this guy. Scroll up and see who’s been criticizing him, that was me.
The only reason our interests align right now is because we share a common enemy. Otherwise, under normal circumstances, I genuinely hate him. Even now, I'd rather see him assassinated than see Israel get threatened by someone even more radical.
Also, don't argue with someone you clearly know less than. I even know the difference between him and his son. You arabs will never know more than an Iranian about another Iranian, especially when the topic is an Iranian.
So please, in this particular case, just shut up and accept that this man's existence is in Israel's favor. Otherwise, Israel would've taken him out already.
>>393186>accept that this man's existence is in Israel's favor. Otherwise, Israel would've taken him out already.Do you think i haven't already realized that? Enmity between iran and israel is just kid's play, if anything they're allies
Us arabs have known this for decades and most iranians aren't even able to comprehend it, silly
>>393175>And now he's acting like everything's over with a happy endingBetter than the alternative.
>>393186>>393187I like you both.
>>393189I like you too swedebro
>>393183There were always going to be breaches of Israel's defenses, because Irans chief military tactic is "swarming", where they routinely launch out-sized attacks with multiple cheap platforms (drones, rockets, small boats, etc.) in the hopes of overwhelming the enemy's defenses and getting some of the attack through. It's tough on their resources, of course, which is why they are likely to accept the cease-fire, so they have time to re-arm.
>>393175keyfabe.
You are watching a movie.
>>393194>Kabuki TheaterWell, the theory that they are ALL playing in the same team and performing a show for the masses is getting more real.
>>393187Silly???
You are the sillies to think this way. What exactly have the arabs known for decades?! You don't even know yourselves!
In the six-day War, almost all of you arabs were defeated by Israel, with your ridiculous pan-arabist spirit! What happened? Why is that spirit gone? Why don't you support the palestinian arabs anymore? Why does Iran, a non-arab country, support them more than you arabs do? (Of course, if you think Iran supports palestine solely out of compassion, you are seriously mistaken! Palestine is a pawn and a pretext for Iran's influence, but I cannot ignore that fortunately(or unfortunately) we have been a compassionate people even for you fools.)
So what happened that in your arab culture you betray each other so easily?! Don't tell me you want to say palestine is no longer arab? Or maybe your arab sheikhs have gotten so fat from oil money that they prefer to abandon their ideals?
You arabs know (I don't think you're so foolish as to not understand this simple point), but you even betray your own ideals, and you know it. Yet you try to fool yourselves into thinking that this is better and smarter! Yes, for now your countries are not collapsing because you are getting fat off oil money. But suppose, for example, Iran closes the strait of Hormuz for a month, your sheikhs would go crazy! You would tear each other apart! Every tribe and faction would divide your countries because your money would be running out!
And now you think you're really in a good position? You have officially become America's colony! Even with all those big and lucrative deals, you couldn't convince Trump to call the Persian Gulf the "Fucking Arabian Gulf." You have been literally fucked by American bases and companies, but you prefer to live in your fragile palaces. Arab independence has been dead for a long time. Just last night it was proven that you arabs only need to see a few missiles in the sky and, like your semitic cousins, you scream and run away! (Watch the video, idiot!) Even Sadam and the Iraqis(who, because of their relative closeness to Iranians, have somewhat more dignity than the rest of you arabs) couldn't defeat the Iranians, who had just changed government and were mired in internal conflicts and sanctions, despite all foreign support. In the end, this symbol of your pan-arabism fucked his own people more than anyone else and was fucked himself.
Your regime is just a picture of money, behind which structural corruption, a class system, and poverty exist that you cannot properly cover up.
And the moment you become useless to America, you will easily be discarded and perish with your arrogant stupidity.
And by the way, Iran and Israel allies??! You're really an idiot!
Iran, throughout almost its entire history, has never had a serious relationship with the jews. We freed them, and in return, they celebrate Purim (although the book of Esther is easily found to have historical inaccuracies and is unreliable, but the important thing is that your semitic cousins still celebrate Purim and believe in it). Even many Iranian opposition groups have problems with jews (I will talk about Iranian opposition in the future). Even that fool (Reza Pahlavi 2) tries to have relations with Israel simply because it is the enemy of his enemy. Even his father opposed Israel and only due to American pressure was forced to have relations with it, which was one of the reasons for the revolution against him. The word "Jew"(یهودی) in Iranian culture has always had a negative connotation, and the regime had to eventually replace it with the word "Kalimi" (کلیمی) so people would have less negative attitudes toward the few jews in Iran. In reality, Iran has never been allied with Israel, being allied with Israel is meaningless because they are people who always look down on others, and this is incompatible with the Iranian spirit that refuses to compromise with them.
Now you try to justify that by opposing Israel, the regime gave Israel an excuse for more infiltration and war. You arabs always want to find a reason, even if you have to pull it out of your ass! If Iran cooperated, you would say Iran helps Israel, so they are allies. If Iran stayed neutral, you would say Iran indirectly supports Israel willingly. If Iran opposes, you say Iran gives Israel an excuse, so they are allies. In every case, you say your ridiculous nonsense. But have you ever looked at yourselves??! You have officially become Israel's servants, trampled on your ideals, and even betrayed your own sects (and even abandoned your sunni ideology!). You pretend to oppose Israel, but you maintain relations with it and empower it, and when Iran attacks Israel, you shut up because you are cowards! In the end, Israel with its "fucking greater Israel" dream invades half of your arab lands and you do nothing.
Of course, if you think Iranians do not know you arabs, you are seriously mistaken, fools!
Almost all Iranians hate you arabs (they have no problem with the Arabs of Khuzestan, because they are honorable Iranians who stood against your pan-arabism in the Iran-Iraq war), and know that you are slaves to money and pleasure!
There is a story that says a jew, an Iranian, and an arab are given money. The Iranian uses the money to make weapons and armor and strengthen his city. The jew uses the money to expand his trade and make more money. And the arab uses the money to buy goods from the jew and lives in the Iranian city, pays taxes to him, and wastes all his time on pleasure and laziness.
Yes, this is your essence! That's why when Iran's oil was priced in triple digits and it sold a lot, it used that money to strengthen other industries and advance its existence, like this nuclear thing (although I will later talk about some mistakes and my views on alternatives), but you arabs, instead of developing your real infrastructure, are only focused on appearances. In the end, your oil will run out and you will be overthrown.
>>393188Sorry, but you remind me of those dinosaurs who looked up at the sky and said how beautiful that meteor was.
Just because Trump acts, doesn't mean his intentions are truly what they seem. Even right now, if peace happens, Israel has more than enough excuses to bleed you Americans dry for "damages", and then prepare for the next attack and the next round of expenses, on your dime.
The survival of Israel is actually against your own interests.
Just saying…
>>393189Thanks, anon.
And I'm happy you didn't take it serious, These are just some argument and explaining some obvious points to the other side.
>>393191What you're saying makes sense, but I'll say it again, I don't think Iran will accept. Though, it depends.
>>393192>>393194>>393195Yes, as I said, I expected the war between Iran and the U.S to be mostly theatrical. Even Israel didn't expect that. But Trump has gotten too caught up in the show. Talking about peace was way too early.
>>393197>Just because Trump acts, doesn't mean his intentions are truly what they seem.I don't care about intentions. I just don't want to get dragged into any more wars. I don't care if he looks obnoxious and retarded, so long as it ends here.
>Even right now, if peace happens, Israel has more than enough excuses to bleed you Americans dry for "damages", and then prepare for the next attack and the next round of expenses, on your dime.They would do that no matter what the circumstances.
>The survival of Israel is actually against your own interests.I know that. I hope they all die.
>>393201Well yes, I'm definitely glad that at least I'm not going to fight people who themselves don't believe in this war. But at the same time, I know that in the end, Trump won't act in your favor. This is probably just to please some MAGA supporters before he wants to use them again. What matters is the outcome, and I don't think it will be a good one... But in any case, let's hope this conflict stays between the jews and the Iranians. Personally, I prefer no other country gets involved in my war.
>>393196Thanks anon, I learned more about Iran from your posts than from hours of lectures.
>>393194Sad story, actually. One of my friends and poner, who scanned and translated rare military manuals for me was killed on the opposite side. And another one run from Ukraine to Israel before war. Pint of Jewish blood and providence saved him at that time, but no one know for how long. This spiral of escalation dragged us too low and no one ready to stop, or at least show some mercy to enemy, since each side already spend too much efforts to victory in this war. And this is mostly Russian fault, because of our initial arrogance and still lasting disrespect.
>>393201>I hope they all die.I'm not. Despite my personal attitude, I was worried about Jewish future. I know, they deserve no more mercy that they show to Palestinians, but Putin was right when he called Israel Russian-speaking country. And now they are hated everywhere on the world, even Americans almost ready to gas another 6 million kikes. And even in this situation they don't show any nobility, just more arrogance. Ending is predictable, but still sad.
At least, it will be hilarious, when our media kikes who run to Israel from the prison-of-nations will be forced to run back to our patient and merciful Jew-loving fuhrer.
>>393205Good to hear that, anon. As I said, I'll talk more about Iran in the future days. I think it may help you, or anyone else want to know about it. I haven't said about a lot of things, yet.
>>393205>I was worried about Jewish future.Me too. There is a very probable chance some of them will escape execution and survive.
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Surprised London hasn't torn itself apart yet tbh.
>>393208It will, just be patient.
>>393196The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture, methodology and can rant about it for you for hours, and some people are just whiney peckeys who want to find negatives in arabs like (You)
>In the six-day War, almost all of you arabs were defeated by Israel, with your ridiculous pan-arabist spirit! What happened? Why is that spirit gone?Because pan-arabism is a dead retarded ideology, arab leaders have learned to not fuck with israel a long time ago
>Why don't you support the palestinian arabs anymore?We literally do though? We send them humanitarian aid all the time
>Why does Iran, a non-arab country, support them more than you arabs do?Iran sees palestine as nothing but a tool that serves their interests, if they really care for palestine then they would've already sent their own forces to die and fight for palestinian soil but they didn't, all they can do is give their puppet militants in foreign countries some guns and rockets because they're cowards who are afraid of having a real face to face ground war with israel
>(Of course, if you think Iran supports palestine solely out of compassion,Well yeah i just explained that
>you are seriously mistaken! Palestine is a pawn and a pretext for Iran's influence, but I cannot ignore that fortunately(or unfortunately) we have been a compassionate people even for you fools.)Lol no, literally ask any palestinian about iran and 99% of the time they would say negative things about it because they realize that as i said, iran sees them as nothing but a tool and not a "pretext" or an ally
>So what happened that in your arab culture you betray each other so easily?!Betrayals happened easily in all parts and cultures of the world
>Don't tell me you want to say palestine is no longer arab?Nope
>Or maybe your arab sheikhs have gotten so fat from oil money that they prefer to abandon their ideals?What sheikhs?
>You arabs know (I don't think you're so foolish as to not understand this simple point), but you even betray your own ideals, and you know it. Yet you try to fool yourselves into thinking that this is better and smarter!What are you exactly referring by "your own ideals" here? Do you basically other arabs in general, or arabs who share the same political positions and ideologies?
>Yes, for now your countries are not collapsing because you are getting fat off oil money. But suppose, for example, Iran closes the strait of Hormuz for a month, your sheikhs would go crazy! You would tear each other apart! Every tribe and faction would divide your countries because your money would be running out!And now you think you're really in a good position?
This argument doesn't matter because you're using a non realistic example, iran doesn't have the balls to do that
>You have officially become America's colony! Even with all those big and lucrative deals, you couldn't convince Trump to call the Persian Gulf the "Fucking Arabian Gulf."No arab cares about what that orange retard calls stuff by
>You have been literally fucked by American bases and companies, but you prefer to live in your fragile palaces.This reeks of envy, you're just seething because some arabs live between luxurious societies while you live in the slums of tehran lmfao
>Arab independence has been dead for a long time. Unfortunately if i'm gonna be completely honest it was never alive
>Just last night it was proven that you arabs only need to see a few missiles in the sky and, like your semitic cousins, you scream and run away! (Watch the video, idiot!)How else do you want them to react to missles flying over them?
>Even Sadam and the Iraqis(who, because of their relative closeness to Iranians, have somewhat more dignity than the rest of you arabs) couldn't defeat the Iranians who had just changed government and were mired in internal conflicts and sanctions, despite all foreign support. In the end, this symbol of your pan-arabism fucked his own people more than anyone else and was fucked himself.This is pretty much the only thing i might agree with you on, ba'athism has been only bringing arabs downhill
>Your regime is just a picture of money, behind which structural corruption, a class system, and poverty exist that you cannot properly cover up.This is pretty ironic said by an iranian, just take a glance at your shithole (picrel)
>>393196>And the moment you become useless to America, you will easily be discarded and perish with your arrogant stupidity.Nigga fuck amerimutts we don't need them to have stable countries
>And by the way, Iran and Israel allies??! You're really an idiot!>Iran, throughout almost its entire history, has never had a serious relationship with the jews. We freed them, and in return, they celebrate Purim (although the book of Esther is easily found to have historical inaccuracies and is unreliable, but the important thing is that your semitic cousins still celebrate Purim and believe in it). Even many Iranian opposition groups have problems with jews (I will talk about Iranian opposition in the future). Even that fool (Reza Pahlavi 2) tries to have relations with Israel simply because it is the enemy of his enemy. Even his father opposed Israel and only due to American pressure was forced to have relations with it, which was one of the reasons for the revolution against him. The word "Jew"(یهودی) in Iranian culture >has always had a negative connotation, and the regime had to eventually replace it with the word "Kalimi" (کلیمی) so people would have less negative >attitudes toward the few jews in Iran. In reality, Iran has never been allied with Israel, being allied with Israel is meaningless because they are people who always look down on others, and this is incompatible with the Iranian spirit that refuses to compromise with them.Now you try to justify that by opposing Israel, the regime gave Israel an excuse for more infiltration and war. You arabs always want to find a reason, even if you have to pull it out of your ass! If Iran cooperated, you would say Iran helps Israel, so they are allies. If Iran stayed neutral, you would say Iran indirectly supports Israel willingly. If Iran opposes, you say Iran gives Israel an excuse, so they are allies. In every case, you say your ridiculous nonsense. But have you ever looked at yourselves??! You have officially become Israel's servants, trampled on your ideals, and even betrayed your own sects (and even abandoned your sunni ideology!). You pretend to oppose Israel, but you maintain relations with it and empower it, and when Iran attacks Israel, you shut up because you are cowards! In the end, Israel with its "fucking greater Israel" dream invades half of your arab lands and you do nothing.
You can flex about iran and persians being le based kike haters as much as you want but the reality is that you and jews are spiritually not only allies but the same people
Jews are the enemies of prophets, iranians (who are mostly shias) are enemies sahaba
Jews want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of greater israel, iranians want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of "islamic" theocracy, and there's alot more similarities but you get my point
>Of course, if you think Iranians do not know you arabs, you are seriously mistaken, fools!>Almost all Iranians hate you arabs (they have no problem with the Arabs of Khuzestan, because they are honorable Iranians who stood against your pan-arabism in the Iran-Iraq war), and know that you are slaves to money and pleasure!You know about us so much because you have hatred against us, not the opposite
>There is a story that says a jew, an Iranian, and an arab are given money. The Iranian uses the money to make weapons and armor and strengthen his city. The jew uses the money to expand his trade and make more money. And the arab uses the money to buy goods from the jew and lives in the Iranian city, pays taxes to him, and wastes all his time on pleasure and laziness.No arabs wants to live in your iranian hellholes
>Yes, this is your essence! That's why when Iran's oil was priced in triple digits and it sold a lot, it used that money to strengthen other industries and advance its existence, like this nuclear thing (although I will later talk about some mistakes and my views on alternatives), but you arabs, instead of developing your real infrastructure, are only focused on appearances.We develop both of those at the same time actually, something you people are unable to do
>In the end, your oil will run out and you will be overthrown.Dream about it persoid, even before oil arabs still raped your entire civilization
The previous 2 posts were supposed to be 1 post btw but i had to divide it because mlpol's system is a faggot and can't let that much words be put in 1 post, i really hope this would be fixed
>>393214>The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture, methodology and can rant about it for you for hours, and some people are just whiney peckeys who want to find negatives in arabs like (You)This was supposed to be a response to "What exactly have the arabs known for decades?! You don't even know yourselves!" Btw i also forgot to clarify that
>>393219well they don't. Both sides are stupid animals.
>>393220They've hated and warred with each other for literal centuries, millennia even. Each will never accept the fact of the other's existence.
>>393223Regime change is likely coming to Israel. Netanyahu faces serious legal jeopardy from Israel's Supreme Court, stemming from a long-running prosecution for corruption that was only paused when he became Prime Minister again in 2022. The ongoing hostilities have been in part a delaying action against that prosecution.
>>393224Along with the judicial reforms in 2023 that triggered widespread protests in Israel.
>>393224Netanyahu is certainly in hot water, and he's trying to cause wars to distract from his corruption charges, but canning him would not mean regime change for Israel. There is no moderate alternative to Netanyahu's regime.
>>392216>>393168Some information about continental supply routes, if Strait of Hormuz will be blocked:
- Iran-China railroad (pic related) -- 10 400 kilometers, 15-20 days, 8.5 million tons per year (100 kg per capita)
- Five Nation Railway corridor (Iran-Afghanistan-China) -- 8000 km, 20-30 days, 6 Mt/year (70 kg per capita)
- Quetta Line + Khunjerab Line (Iran-Pakistan-China) -- ~8000 km, 20-30 days, ??? Mt/year (?? kg per capita)
- North–South Transport Corridor (Iran-Russia) -- 7000 km, 15-24 days, 14-30 Mt/year (150-300 kg per capita)
- Trans-Siberian railroad (North-South --> China) -- 10 000 kilometers, 15-20 days, 160 Mt/year
Overall current state of continental routes worse than I expected. Borderline level, if Iran need not only military supplies, but also some food and industrial goods, tools and parts to repair bombed facilities. Moreover we have problems in Fergana volley and another special military operation possible right next to Iran-China railroad and Turkmenistan-China gas pipeline (we have escalation in Kazakhstan in early 2022, but manage to fix situation quickly and buy some time).
Iranian has about 180 Mt/year oil production and 75 Mt/year oil export (90% to China). Continental routes unsuitable for oil export, moreover oil industry may be bombed with blockade level of escalation. Current China's oil import/consumption is 560/800 million tons, 50% from Persian Gulf. Current China's natural gas import/consumption 180/400 million cubit meters (25-30% from Persian Gulf, 25% from Turkmenistan). China has about 50-100 Mt oil reserve (70-150 days if Strait of Hormuz will be blocked).
Russia has about 520 Mt/year oil production and 240 Mt/year oil export (75% to China). Russia probably can raise production to 10-20%, up to 600 Mt/year during 1-2 years, but overall our oil industry expensive and stagnated. So, only +80 Mt/year possible, which can compensate only 30% of Persian Gulf export. Also China's refineries are build for Persian Gulf oil, they can't refine Russian oil without expensive investments and years to rebuild.
I must say again, the major USA objective is to close Strait of Hormuz by Iranian hands to cripple China's industry. Or just escalate war and bomb all Persian Gulf oil exporters directly. USA don't have any interest in Persian Gulf anymore (they must maintain own oil industry which profitable only with high prices and have plans to take Venezuela as part of their latinos faction unification initiative). Both Saudi Arabia and Iran are just enemy supply line and threat to Israel.
>>393223>trips off by one but a 32-23 is still interestingYeah, a regime change in Israel might be the lasting solution.
>>393231At least get the Likud party out of power.
Jews are getting desperate and are calling for a false flag terrorist attack to drag America into a war with Iran.
damn I missed you guys
internet was restricted here for 12 days and now mlpol is filtered so now i have to use vpn for connecting here
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anyway lots of shit happened , have to tell all of my western friends in discord that i am alive
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fuck israel and fuck irgc
i was reading the other irani-fag replies.
do not trust this faggot
they are a Irgc propaganda shil and they're here to just spread misinformation and manipulate brains.
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in 12 days i could not connect here (or anywhere) just like most people in my country
but this asshole somehow was able to do so
and he is sucking so much mullah dick rn
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either he has a special net form or he is not even in iran (you can easily download iranian vpn for accessing farsi sites)
>>393248>fuck israel and fuck irgcI suspect you must be one of the Russians pointing fingers at. They call you the pro-western 5th column inside Iran.
At your heart, you love the west and despise Iranian culture. This pathological psychology is seen all around the west in the immigrant's mindset. They want access to White People while claiming to love their homeland. Indoors they berate White People, but cry foul if they are removed from living among Whites.
My point... check your loyalties.
anyway tl;dr
there is a cease fire
iran lost many military bases and nuclear sites
1k people are dead and near 13k people are injured
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tbh civilian casualty is pretty low compared to the amount fuckery missiles that IDF shot
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IRGC did not do shit to israel , idc what anyone says.
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irani people are scared and they are full of hatred toward their government , seem like they were happy that israel is punishing iran , can't blame them
personally i don't know how to feel about the war
i can say that two cruel government fought and innocent people died pretty much,
internet is barely coming back
also side note
yesterday was the most horrible day here , so many missile so many sounds so many explosions so many earth quakes (due to explossions)
>>393251hug
>>393252neither , i am just a hippy dude who wants to live his life and that is it , which i can't
you don't know what being iranian means
you don't how painful it is that you have to kill every single dreams that you have and give up on the most simplistic rights cause everyone are cruel toward you
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your government is shit , your enemies are shit , your people are depressed and angry, economy is garbage , you don't even have the most casual rights here
>>393254i am just tired of this planet and it's living beings
and i cannot do anything about it
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maybe i should scratch on the future government in iran or just have to live like a random npc like a normal person would do
How horrible! And how tiresome. Every single fucking day I see this kind of jewish bots and double-piggers on 2ch, on livejournal, on telegram, every-fucking-where. Can you put another disc inside? Can you imitate a human being at least? I know, I ask too much from a piece of promt-enginering and mantis-minded-black-box. If you are not human, be aware, we will kill your masters to make internet free again. But I hope, I want to believe that it is with 0.1% chance may be a human. Please, forgive me, If I was mistaken. I regret when war hurt those who do not want to be part of it.
>>393261The internet is a jewish colony you stupid chud, if you hate it here so much then stop using electronic communication devices and go live with some primitive nigger tribes in africa or something
And the drumbeat started almost immediately.
“Hit it again, goy.”
>>393262>internet is a jewish colonyNot at all, you are a tiny minority and can't colonize shit, only monitor, shut down the conversation flipping the servers' switches or sending the zogbots. Beyond that, you are fighting a lost battle. /pol/ is already mainstream and your survival as a species is in doubt.
>>393262At least we hunt down zogdogs sometimes, when you just make love with passionate fillies, devour arabic sweets and watch on tv how your brothers struggles against kikes onslaught!
Trump makes announcement after historic B-2 strike mission on Iran.
>>393267Whereas I prefer to make love with fillies and hunt down zogs
>>393214>The answer to this really depends on the personal knowledge of each someone, some people have studied arab history, culture...Idiot! Who even asked for a lecture on arab culture for you to start copy-pasting the entire arab encyclopedia?!
Let me explain something to you, maybe then you'll actually understand what this is about:
I'm a Lur myself, and I spent the first 13 years of my life in Khuzestan, living among Lurs and Arabs. I've seen Arab culture firsthand, the festivals, the traditions, the community. I know enough about it, and unlike you, I actually respect the Arabs of Khuzestan.
They have real honor, courage, and a warrior spirit, their culture means something.
My whole point is: why don't you arabs know your own identity anymore?
Why have you abandoned your deeper culture in other countries and started acting like losers?
I don't know, maybe this kind of honor and dignity only still exists in Khuzestani Arabs…
because you sure as hell lack it.
So don't go thinking you're talking to someone ignorant.
I know plenty about you, and that's exactly why I'm shocked at how far you've fallen and how spineless you've become.
And btw, I didn't attack you for no reason.
You were the one who made a dumbass comment about Iranians first, so I simply had to show you just how stupid you really are.
Maybe now you'll learn not to run your mouth with every worthless take that pops into your head.
>Because pan-arabism is a dead retarded ideologyWell, finally! Maybe the arabs are starting to wise up a little and realize that some dreams are just too much of a fantasy for them.
>arab leaders have learned to not fuck with israel a long time agoWell shit, guess the arabs are still brain-dead.
No surprise though, they seem perfectly fine getting fucked by Israel while just sitting there like pathetic little cowards, doing absolutely nothing.
>We literally do though? We send them humanitarian aid all the timeThat's an incredibly gay take.
You arabs are no different from the UN: completely useless and passive.
It's honestly ridiculous that this is the kind of response you come back to me with.
>Iran sees palestine as nothing but a tool that serves their interests...Yeah, the first part of your post is just you regurgitating my own damn words back at me. Nice job...
But moving on:
You arabs seriously must have some chronic memory loss.
Wasn't it Iran that sent forces when ISIS was busy raping half of your arab lands? Or did that little fact magically slip your mind too?
Let me remind you:
Groups like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and even a bunch of your so-called "freedom fighters" in Palestine were trained, armed, and backed by Iran.
Because let's be real, without Iran holding your hand, you guys can't organize shit on your own.
And this idea that Iran is "afraid" of direct war with Israel?
That's some next-level delusion.
Iran would jump at the chance for a ground war, it would steamroll Israel with superior numbers, real soldiers, and actual battlefield grit.
It's Israel that's too much of a coward to face Iran directly, so they go cry to the U.S for help, and even that's just turning into a bigger joke.
>Well yeah i just explained thatWell done smart ass...!
>Lol no, literally ask any palestinian about iran and 99%...Iran could have treated them like animals very easily, but instead showed them respect. Boomers really feel some kind of sympathy for them.
And yeah, I know Iran never really saw you as true allies in the end, because they knew the truth about you, that if you ever got power and stayed in it for a while, you'd drown in your own pride (like what happened to Assad).
And yes, Hamas has always had issues with Iran and never really acted like a genuine ally.
But I'm not sure about that 99%.
All those videos you see on arab media, are they really made by that 1 percent?
Because honestly, in most of them, I saw people supporting Iranians.
Anyway, you can deny it if you want. I really don't care.
>Betrayals happened easily in all parts and cultures of the worldYeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.
And throughout history, I have never seen a people truly face genocide while other same countries just turn a blind eye.
That kind of thing seems to be something only you arabs are capable of.
>NopeA backward arab doesn't get that this is a rhetorical question and doesn't need to answer such a stupid question.
>What sheikhs?That minority who take almost all the money from your country.(maybe you're one of their son)
>What are you exactly referring by "your own ideals" here? Do you basically other arabs in general, or arabs who share the same political positions and ideologies?I mean the ideals of pan-arabism, sunni ideology, arab spirit and independence, and basically everything that defines a true arab.
>>393214>And now you think you're really in a good position?Yes! I'm sure! Although I oppose the regime for some internal policies, I still like its overall goal.
Besides, you yourself exaggerated in your own text later by saying Iran has imperial ambitions, so please don't ask about something you already know.
What you're saying smells like jealousy.
>This argument doesn't matter because you're using a non realistic example, iran doesn't have the balls to do thatIran's got the balls, and damn good ones!
Iran can just threaten to do something and totally mess with your oil prices, which is the backbone of your economy!
It easily sends warnings to your arab countries, and you end up shutting down your biggest air routes, clearing the skies for Iran.
Iran had the guts to be the only country to directly attack the U.S after World War II, twice!
And if you think all that was just a staged show, then Iran can make the U.S dance to its tune.
Iran had the balls to strike even after Trump announced otherwise. Iran has the balls to do whatever it wants(nuclear program, missiles program and so on...).
And if the day comes, Iran will also have the balls to actually close the strait of Hormuz.
So please, shut up about this!
And idiot! You didn't even get the main point!
I used that scenario to show how easily your country can fall apart, and you're all pure arabs with no foreign-backed opposition.
Let's change the scenario if you dare: suppose only half of the oil sanctions on Iran are applied to your country for one year, after that year, you would probably face dozens of autonomous regions.
Meanwhile, Iran has been under harsh sanctions for decades, with separatist groups supported by foreigners and a diverse ethnic makeup, yet it hasn't broken apart!
You? No way! No other country could handle what Iran has and not break apart!
>No arab cares about what that orange retard calls stuff byLoL! Your stupid politicians, just to suck up to him, would bend over and fuck him if they had to.
>This reeks of envy, you're just seething because some arabs live between luxurious societies while you live in the slums of tehran lmfaoIdiot, more Iranians than that one percent rich arab elite live in luxury societies.
Btw, I'm a poly-eng student right now, living in Navab near Enghelab Square in Tehran, and since I only have one exam left, which got postponed because of the war, I have plenty of time to write to you at this hour.
Also, I don't get why you arabs always want to compete and show off?
Why do you always flaunt things you didn't even work for?
Why are you so jealous and obsessed with money and luxury?
You even show off your dick like you're the only ones who have one! (yeah, you did that dumb shit in this very thread
>>393047)!
Believe me, showing off your dick and luxury doesn't help you at all.
Stop this gay-ass behavior already...
>Unfortunately if i'm gonna be completely honest it was never aliveSomething like the early islamic caliphates or even Assad's current regime had some degree of arab independence, but it's really sad that even you know this and do nothing about it.
>How else do you want them to react to missles flying over them?Running around in the open is really a stupid move. The chance of getting injured even in these pointless escapes to nowhere is pretty high.
Btw, this was one of the videos I saw. There are plenty more that show you really have no clue about war.
You're complete cowards and don't even consider the fact that Iran could have attacked the american bases inside your territory.
But you run around in your cities like you're right in the middle of those bases!
I mean, do these idiots really think Iran is going to target a shopping mall or something, so they just randomly hit places like that???
You really act like your cousins, maybe even worse.
I think you should go watch videos of Iranian people during the missile war and compare them to your own.
After all, there's a difference between
Aryans and Semites.
>This is pretty much the only thing i might agree with you on, ba'athism has been only bringing arabs downhillI'm glad to see you have some logic, but have you considered that the only arab country that directly fought Iran (and that was when Iran was at its weakest) was Iraq?
No other arab country has had direct conflict with Iran since then.
If Saudi arabia or any other arab country acted like Saddam, you'd see that arabs wouldn't stand a chance against Iran, especially now that Iran has grown stronger, as you witnessed in the recent war.
Even though Iran entered your arab airspace, you couldn't do much about it.
>This is pretty ironic said by an iranian, just take a glance at your shithole (picrel)I wish you had at least posted pictures of some of the poor neighborhoods in southern Tehran. As they say: "از این همه پیامبر، جرجیس را انتخاب کردید!" LoL!
The photo you sent is actually a part of the native and local areas of Mashhad (right near the shrine), which have all been endowed in the past. Even though the land there is very expensive, the local owners prefer to keep its poor-looking, non-materialistic appearance, something that's probably beyond the comprehension of you luxury-obsessed arabs.
And again, you're doing the whole "one-upmanship" thing?
I can also show photos of your poor neighborhoods (which happen to be quite numerous)!
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2019/12/23/vision-2030-and-poverty-in-saudi-arabiaAnd don't think slums or poor areas are anything unusual in the world.
Why are you so obsessed with showing off luxury? Is it some kind of mental illness?
>Nigga fuck amerimutts we don't need them to have stable countriesIdiot! How the hell would something like Aramco(or better yet, "Americamco") survive without the U.S?
Or let's forget that sanction scenario I mentioned earlier, if, hypothetically, the Americans just left your country and cut ties but didn't sanction you, could you honestly say you'd stay stable??!
Bilakh!
>>393214>You can flex about iran and persians being le based kike haters as much as you want but the reality is that you and jews are spiritually not only allies but the same people>He has a genetic connection with the jews and, like them, is semitic.>He's money-hungry like the jews.>He's arrogant like the jews.>He uses his religion as a tool and changed it, just like the jews.<But the dumb arab thinks Aryan Iranians are like the jews.Bro, with your nonsense, you just shook Cyrus' grave on vibrate mode!
>Jews are the enemies of prophets, iranians (who are mostly shias) are enemies sahaba. Jews want to expand their dominance in the region by the name of greater israel...I think I get what's really bothering you. You're just a jealous sunni arab.
First of all, please don't start that stupid shia-sunni debate here(others can't understand it here). I'm neither an expert nor do I have the patience to argue with a brain-dead arab like you about it. Just know this: I have watched plenty of debates between shias and sunnis, and in every one of them, sunni arguments never convinced me as much as the shia ones. Also, I read your Sahih al-bukhari, a book full of drama, contradictions, and stories so unrealistic it turns into a comedy! Honestly, if you sold it as a comedy book, it would probably sell better.
And about "Greater Israel" and all that, why does that remind me of someone else... Ah! You arabs! You who attacked other nations with Trojan-horse islam and still keep doing it, you behave exactly like the jews, only they're a bit smarter at it than you are.
And about Iran, yes! The Persian empire and greater Iran are nothing bad. Unlike pan-arabism and greater Israel fantasies, greater Iran really existed and isn't just some sweet dream. Iran was great in history, and greater Iran is forming right now, not just under this regime but by the Iranians themselves. Even if the regime changes, the army and irgc won't just vanish overnight. (Of course, this war delayed the regime's fall by a few years.)
That's exactly what you sunni arabs are worried about, because to build your own Islamic empire, you need Iran! Without Iran, you're stuck where you are. I have seen how hard you arabs try to tie this to Iranians being shia and say that if Iranians accepted sunni thought and joined the "Ummah", they would advance. Meanwhile, they're advancing anyway (you saw how different Iran is now compared to the Iran-Iraq war era). But you want to pull Iranians to your side so you can advance. Dream on!
Also, sunni worldview and their belief in the Messiah is more like the jews, while shias think more like christians. Islam came after christianity, so logically sunni beliefs should be closer to christianity than judaism, but clearly, you sunnis behave more like jews ideologically and worldview-wise, unlike the shias. Could it mean sunni islam has gone astray and degenerated by jews? Just a theory...
And finally, you idiot! Why do you think just because Iranians and jews both seek glory, they are the same? So what, because greece and Persia existed, Iranians are like Greeks or Romans? Keep your ridiculous logic to yourself. Every nation should care about its own greatness. If your semitic cousins show more pride in this regard, then at least on this front, they're better than you arabs in my eyes. If you arabs don't care about your own glory, you have no right to blame others for caring about theirs. You can see the meme! (I don't agree with part of this meme. Israel is way too cowardly to be a chad. If anything, it makes more sense to put the U.S in Israel's place, but the rest of the meme checks out.)
>You know about us so much because you have hatred against us, not the oppositeYou sound a lot like a kike.
Well, when people hate you, and even after they get to know you, they still hate you (most hatred usually comes from ignorance), that kind of shows the problem is actually you.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself: why?
(Note: You can use my text as a reference.)
>No arabs wants to live in your iranian hellholesYeah, yeah! Surely you're absolutely fucking right!
The so-called "Golden Age of Islam" wasn't basically one of those hellholes built by Iranians, and arabs? Yeah, they definitely don't want to stick themselves to that story or steal the credit! (Bilakh!)
And when your ancestors invaded Iran, they sure didn't see the Persian paradises (the famous Persian gardens, aka Iranian hellholes) and say, "Hey, these gardens must be the paradise promised in the Quran!" (And of course, those hellholes weren't beautiful at all, not to the extent that their Persian name "Paradis" ended up becoming the very word for paradises in so many languages!)
Almost all your arab regimes in past hadn't Iranian ministers and politicians controlling you, and you weren't actually living in the hellholes the Iranians made for you!
Let me give you a personal example for now:
A family friend of mine in Mashhad (yes, that very city you sent a picture of) had a kidney surgery and was hospitalized at Razavi hospital. When we went to visit, we were surprised to see a lot of arabs in the waiting rooms and treatment wards! After talking to them, it turned out many arabs travel to Iran for cheaper and better healthcare services. Even more interesting, many services in that hospital were free or cheap for Iranians and overall it was an affordable hospital (despite being private).
Well, sometimes paradise is just a place where they don't want to empty your pockets and still provide good quality service. Of course, the hellholes we build turn out to be paradise for you! (don't ask)
And btw, this is my own personal experience, there are many other better examples I could give, but I have seen this myself.
So next time you want to spout that nonsense, remember that basically a lot of the things you have today come from those Iranian hellholes in the first place!
>>393214>We develop both of those at the same time actually, something you people are unable to do<Becoming an American colony, building a few more damn palaces for the rich, filling the country with whores and bitches, killing migrant workers for a ridiculous project like NEOM(which despite having astronomical budgets and no sanctions, isn’t progressing as planned), being unable to eradicate poverty and organized class disparity, exploiting your own compatriots in the worst possible ways (something we wouldn't even do to our enemies) and failing to hide all your actions (like Khashoggi), financially supporting terrorist groups and suffering losses from them yourselves, and so on...Yes, surely we Iranians cannot perform this much stupidity and passivity all at once. You truly have a talent for this!
>Dream about it persoid, even before oil arabs still raped your entire civilizationHa! And then your own governments were controlled and eventually overthrown by Iranians!
In fact, you pointed your dick at Iran, but Iran shackled that ugly dick of yours and tamed and controlled you. The fact that you think you raped shows how empty and useless your mind really is.
>The previous 2 posts were supposed to be 1 post btw but i had to divide it because mlpol's system is a faggot and can't let that much words be put in 1 post, i really hope this would be fixedI understand, no need to say that. I sent 4 for you!
>>393217Got it
P.S: Please stop sending nonsense! This is a thread about a war that hasn't yet turned into peace (a ceasefire could be broken at any moment), not a playground for some dumb arab troll who can only spit out useless garbage. If you post about this again, I won't reply, so don't bother.
P.S.2: Guys, please don't reply to his trolling either, every reply you give just makes him more eager to keep trolling.
>>393219Quite literally, the only one who actually fell for this 4d chess game is Trump himself!
>>393220So you know, humans are a type of animal too.
But in this conflict, one side consists of animals that want to control all the other animals, and the other side are animals that refuse to be controlled like the rest.
There's nothing stupid about that.
What's truly stupid is believing you can keep both sides together as if that's ever going to work.
>>393221Well, it's true that this particular enmity has existed for thousands of years, but since the jews have almost never had a proper civilization throughout history, they were never able to pose any real threat to Iran.
Iran only attacks when it's threatened or attacked first.
And with the war that the jews themselves started, they finally gave Iran the opportunity to settle the score.
>>393222Well, they did the right thing by not impeaching Trump. When you have entered a war, you can't just impeach your country's president and create chaos.
Right now, Trump won't be impeached, but most likely, after this war ends (regardless of the outcome), Trump will probably be impeached.
Of course, that's just my prediction.
>>393223>>393224>>393225>>393226>Netanyahu will be removed. Another radical will replace him, and this stupid cycle will repeat itself.That's why I prefer this war to actually lead somewhere, even if it ends in destruction, because otherwise, only the same global decay will remain.
>>393227In fact, this war itself might be a kind of effort to delay the development of further transportation links between Iran and china. But for now, we don't know what exactly will happen between Iran and china during this ceasefire, before the next round of war begins.
Currently, if the conflict causes damage to oil facilities, china will most likely be forced to enter the war(like the U.S) to secure its own interests, and that would mark the beginning of a much more serious escalation. I don't think the U.S is actually seeking that, but if it does happen, it will ultimately be to everyone's detriment.
I’m not a military expert, but I'm curious: if Iran were to decide to close the strait of Hormuz, how exactly would it go about doing it? Would it be done selectively? For example, would chinese ships be allowed to pass? And what about those few planes that came from china to Iran during the war, what exactly were they carrying? I think Iran and china have made some plans for such a scenario, but until something actually happens, we can't say anything definitive.
>>393231In that case, it depends on which regime will come next.
>>393232For example, does it mean the labor party or something like that would roughly take power? Are the angry Israelis in a mood to accept becoming left-wing or centrist?
>>393233>Meanwhile, Xi Jinping is waiting in his office to hear about the operation.>>393243[pic related]
>>393245>kikes' nature
>>393248Hi!
>internet was restricted here for 12 daysBro?? The international internet wasn't even cut off for a full week, how come you didn't have internet for 12 days??!
>now mlpol is filtered so now i have to use vpn for connecting hereWhy? I can still connect without a vpn even now, that's strange... but maybe it works now. Probably when you were posting, they hadn't fully and properly restored the internet yet.
>anyway lots of shit happenedI bet you didn't go through as much crap as I did:
First off, I had a bunch of trouble when the war started, I was working on a project that was almost finished, and the guy who was supposed to do the final assembly just disappeared. Took me two whole days to track him down and get him back to finish it. Then tons of people started leaving Tehran, and my parents down in Bandar Abbas were freaking out, thinking I might get hurt or worse.
Two days before the internet got locked down, I was supposed to head to Bandar the next day. On my way to the library, I passed a small, kind of isolated park, and from a distance, I saw a guy pouring something all over a few tires. It was pretty clear he was planning to set them on fire, probably to stir up panic. (later I found out he was an afghan infiltrator.)
So I slowly approached to get a better look, and once I was sure what was happening, I called 113 or 114(can't remember which). I realized he was going to light the fire and run, probably before the police could arrive. And then, I don't even know why the fuck, I grabbed a stick lying nearby and ran up behind him, smacked him on the side of the head, and knocked him out cold. His head was bleeding, and I was freaking out thinking maybe I accidentally killed the guy.
Police showed up, took me to the station, and sent him to the hospital! Took about a full day before he woke up and they cleared me of any charges. But they still made me delete the video I secretly recorded of him (some dumb "security" reason). Also yeah… kinda awkward when they saw my pony stuff on my phone.
Anyway, once I got out and they told me not to go around attacking faggots again and just report them, I rushed to Bandar Abbas by bus, stayed there for one day, and then came back to Tehran.
After that, I needed to download some really important notes from google drive, but the university internet(which was supposed to stay open), was totally dead. So I asked one of my IT buddies for help. I'm not really good with this tech stuff, but he explained something about static ips, telecom vs mobinnet. In the end, he lent me a mobinnet modem with a sim card, and that's how I managed to get back online, up until today when, finally, everything started working normally again.
So... what's your story, anon? Which city were you in when all this went down?(trying to be normal with you, as I see what did you post later.)
>have to tell all of my western friends in discord that i am aliveWhen I connected, I saw about 20 messages from different guys just in tel.
>fuck israel and fuck irgcOh shit! Here we go again...
>i was reading the other irani-fag replies. do not trust this faggotOh, so you just now realized the internet isn't a place to trust people?
Wow, truly groundbreaking.
Thanks for reminding us of the obvious, we would be so lost without you.
>they are a Irgc propaganda shil and they're here to just spread misinformation and manipulate brains.First of all, please stop throwing around the word "irgc" like that. You are literally a delusional faggot who labels anything slightly opposing your stupid ideas as irgc guy. Please quit repeating that ridiculous nonsense!
Btw, you were the one giving wrong information right from the start: 12 days??? Really nigger??!
And I'm not here to "manipulate minds" like you say (so tell me, which of my statements was false or mind-manipulating?), but it seems like the one whose mind has been completely fucked by the devil is you, with your ridiculous opinions!
>in 12 days i could not connect here (or anywhere) just like most people in my countryI'll say it again, what damn timeline are you living in that you and most people in the country supposedly had no internet for 12 days??! I remember the only ones claiming that Iranians lost internet from day one of the war were some fucking kikes on 4chan pushing propaganda for themselves. Are you one of them??! Well, if that's the case, it explains everything...
>but this asshole somehow was able to do soI think now you know how I did, asshole.
>he is sucking so much mullah dick rnJust show me one fucking post from me that I did what you say faggot! JUST ONE FUCKING POST!!!
If you can't find it, shut the hell up and don't open your damn mouth about this nonsense anymore!
>either he has a special net formMobinnet's internet had low speed and barely connected to vpn, but when it did connect, the speed weirdly increased (I don't know why). My vpn was a paid one (PARS VPN) and it worked. Also, if I posted on the site without a vpn, it would show the Azerbaijan flag (I really don't know why, I still haven't asked my friend about that).
And you, if you just move your ass a bit and ask someone who actually knows this stuff, you can find a way too! (be ready for the next rounds of the war.)
>>393249>or he is not even in iran (you can easily download iranian vpn for accessing farsi sites)As they say: "کافر همه را به کیش خود پندارد"
The way you're accusing and acting like maybe I'm not even in Iran and I'm posting from abroad with an Iranian vpn, makes me wonder if you might be one of those people who throw such accusations at others??! Maybe you're not even Iranian at all! I feel like I'm looking right at the tip of your nose, at least mentally and in your thinking, you behave exactly like (((them)))!
I also remember you called yourself armenian, but every armenian I've ever met was calm, organized, with strong mental and ideological discipline, and culturally devoted, which is exactly the opposite of what you are! Even as a christian, you openly cursed god and said you love Jesus but hate his father! On the other hand, like the kikes, you say Iranians had no internet for 12 days! You weave sad stories from your past trying to make yourself feel at home in my heart, like some jewish martyr! On top of that, you talk like a neurotic, nihilistic jew, and I keep tolerating it, while you keep attacking me, enough already! Once, twice, three times, a hundred times!!! How many fucking times do I have to tolerate you, while you keep insulting me like a lunatic??! Enough, idiot!
If you’re jewish, well, nothing to say, your cover's blown. And if you're really Iranian, you're only Iranian in name, because you're nothing like a real Iranian. You honestly don't deserve to live if you don't care about it! And I don't give a fuck who the fuck you are, what ethnicity you belong to, what religion or ideology you follow, which city you're from, or what your past is... If you are Iranian and in these conditions want to act like a loser fool and make it seem like all Iranians are like that, then just get lost!
If you're against the kikes, then you have no right to say you don't want this damn war! Don't tell me you expect a lightning strike from the sky to kill them??! You have to break some eggs to make an omelet.
And if you don't care about Iran, insult someone who is analyzing this war, lie one after another, and think you're the most miserable person in the world, then you have the right to behave however you want. I hope you never live as an Iranian for a hundred years, asshole!
And don't you dare call yourself a nationalist, a nationalist who is so self-sold, westernized, and depressed is better off shitting in their own ass than screaming here!
If you're on the Iranian side, then don't lie like a dumb jew and tell the truth and real analysis! Otherwise, it's better for you to shut up and get lost!
>there is a cease fire. iran lost many military bases and nuclear sitesWell done, idiot! People here are trying to analyze how exactly this ceasefire is supposed to hold up despite all these problems, whether those bases that were hit have actually been destroyed, and where the uranium is now, then you come along and tell us the obvious! Thanks for the heads-up, dumbass!
>1k people are dead and near 13k people are injuredAnd again, another fucking big lie from you, idiot! How many shekels of their budget have they set aside for you, you fool?!
Even the highest numbers, even in unofficial sources, don't reach 1000 (I'm not even talking about the official 606). The highest number of injured doesn't exceed 6000. How did you manage to double that??!
Do you pull these lies out of your ass? Or are you connected to somewhere? Even your (((cyber shills))) haven't told such huge lies!
>tbh civilian casualty is pretty low compared to the amount fuckery missiles that IDF shotWell, kike, what do you mean by that? Are you trying to say Israel has been friendly with the Iranian people or something? Bullshit!
First, your stats are wrong and those numbers are way lower. Second, all those Israeli missiles actually didn't hit their targets. Third, Israel was fighting Aryan Iranians, not some bunch of Gaza sandniggers. Surely they can't cause that much destruction and kill that many people.
And btw, why don't you say the same thing about Iran? Could it be that (((they))) told you if you say the same about Iran's attacks, they won't give you any shekels???
>IRGC did not do shit to israel , idc what anyone says.<Another fucking big lie, extra shekels for you, faggot!>irani people are scared and they are full of hatred toward their government , seem like they were happy that israel is punishing iranIdiot! Even most of the Iranian opposition (including myself) have temporarily sided with the regime, because national interests are at risk, not political interests! And btw, exactly in which media or where in this country are you that you think you can judge the entire people, fool??! Where have the people, in the middle of a war, celebrated punishing the regime while Israel is attacking their country and killing ordinary people??! You probably, in your stupidity, think that celebration people had on Saturday was because they were happy about the attack on the regime?? No, dumbass! That day was Eid Ghadir, and millions of people celebrated it precisely to show they oppose Israel and that Israel cannot ruin their celebration. Something your backward brain probably can't understand! (This video is from that very day, faggot!)
>can't blame them. personally i don't know how to feel about the warYeah, you can't say anything meaningful. A damn traitor or an angry kike who currently feels humiliated can't express their feelings. You would rather shut up about this and just take your money.
>i can say that two cruel government fought and innocent people died pretty muchOh! Better hope they don't dock your pay for that comment. Maybe they won't like you calling both sides "cruel" just to keep up appearances.
Besides, this war was between a country and its people against a bunch of kikes who, in the end, had to call in their mommy (the U.S) to maybe do something for them.(and U.S just dicked them, LoL)
>>393253>internet is barely coming back.This is one of the only lies I can't deny. Because honestly, when the internet came back, I was busy with something and only checked a few hours later, and it connected easily. But well, since I've experienced this before, maybe this is the only thing I'm willing to believe from you.
>yesterday was the most horrible day here , so many missile so many sounds so many explosions so many earth quakes (due to explossions)Idiot! Just yesterday(last day) was one of the weak days. I was in Tehran myself, the peak of the explosions was early in the second week! Don't add too much hot sauce!
>>393254>neither , i am just a hippy dude who wants to live his life and that is it , which i can't .you don't know what being iranian means...This is exactly the kind of mindset a sellout traitor or a nihilistic kike would have. Deal with it, asshole.
As an ordinary Iranian, I am living my life and not whining like a loser.
If you want to fix your life situation, do something about it.
If you can't, then shut the hell up!
>your government is shit , your enemies are shit , your people are depressed and angry...More whining from a pathetic loser.
No one gives a shit about your words, go fix your own life!
>i am just tired of this planet and it's living beings. and i cannot do anything about itA nihilistic bastard illustrated.
>maybe i should scratch on the future government in iran or just have to live like a random npc like a normal person would doThink like a passive loser so much that you explode! If you don't take action, nothing will get done for you!
Btw, you're one of the most abnormal bastard I've ever seen. No normal person is this crazy, pathetic, and a loser.
I had some hope in you before, but here you showed your true self.
As the poet says:
"بی کمالی های انسان از سخن پیدا شود
پسته بی مغز چون لب وا کند رسوا شود"
>>393252I don't think he's even a 5th column. Because literally, he does nothing and, as they say, just brings everyone down.
We call people like this(who occasionally show up on twitter or tel) a type of troll. They truly believe in nothing and live in complete emptiness and stupidity. You can find these kinds of people both among the regime supporters and the opposition groups on tel. In both groups, they behave as if they're depressed and miserable, trying to spread that misery to others.
Among the regime supporters, they might make you lose your feelings toward the regime, and among the opposition, they behave in a way that makes you feel foolish. They're just self-deprecating, worthless people who really have nothing to offer and can't even serve as a good 5th column.
Such people are not truly in love with the west or the east because when you sold your homeland, you also sold the feeling of love itself (this may sound poetic and literary, but it'ls really serious). So they genuinely have no real belief in anything, and that's what leads to their ruin.
I don't know much about immigrants from other countries, but regarding Iranian immigrants (because some of my paternal family live abroad), I know that most of them are students, elites, businessmen, or their families. That's why they usually adhere to certain values and often belong to the middle to upper-middle class in western societies. Usually, they try to keep their heads down and don't interfere much in various issues, unless it directly concerns them.
They always carry a sense of nationalism and patriotism within themselves (they always feel alienated in the west). Whether they are opposition or regime supporters, they try to maintain their Iranian roots and religious identity (probably if you talk to some of them, they consider themselves secular or atheist, but as one of my cousins who lives in Westwood said, people hang symbols like Faravahar, the "One in a Thousand" tapestry, or pictures of the Shah and Mossadegh(who were mortal enemies) side by side because of their nationalist appearance).
Yes, there are also some illegal Iranian immigrants who are pretty much like "him" (he's the unhealthiest example among them).
Overall, this does not apply to legal Iranian immigrants, they basically don't shout or make a fuss.
This guy is a symbol of complete depression and madness leading to ruin.
>>393261Your concern for him is understandable, but I have talked to him enough now to realize that he really has no way back. He has burned his bridges behind him and reached ruin and emptiness.
And I guarantee you, he is a human being, but a person you can no longer hope for. Even you, though you don't know many Iranians, can clearly see that he is mentally ill and cannot be a healthy Iranian. Of course, in my opinion, he might not even be Iranian at all.
As I said, he is probably either a self-sold, nihilistic person or a (((foolish cyber troll))). In either case, there is no hope for him.
>>393262As I said, don't troll here.
>>393266This is the kind of argument I call "دعوای زرگری".
There's no guarantee that this isn't just an act being played by both sides.
>>393268I understood the talks and some of the jokes with people, but I think this whole thing is a bit too American for me. Is all this just joking about your politicians? I mostly feel it relates to internal matters.
P.S: please as I said, don't cheer the arab and (((irani-like))) trolls by replying them. Don't give a shit about them. I really could post something more useful, if I didn't have to reply them. Now I can just save my time.
>>393293>Is all this just joking about your politicians?No joking, but mocking them. They are incompetent, uncultured lying clowns and exhibit A why there is not political solution for western liberal/conservative democracy. This is not going to end well.
>>393294It seems there's no government whose people don't hate it.
But well, Churchill once said something interesting:
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried.
>>393289>And what about those few planes that came from china to Iran during the war, what exactly were they carrying?I think electronic warfare equipment. If kikes sabotaged part of system, the air delivery is the fastest way. And GPS suppression against glide bombs quite effective. I wand to share some data about it first.
Pic related from our electronic warfare guide:
- Vertical scale -- radius of suppression in kilometers.
- Horizontal scale -- power output of EW-equipment in kilowatts.
As you can see power more than 1-2 kW actually useless, but numerous small stations effective, especially if they are on high altitude drones. We have two electronic warfare belts behind frontline. 10 km between them, stations 2-4 km one from the other (1-2 kW station = 0.8-1 km suppression). If glide bomb flies 20 km above two lines of stations it has deviation about ±20-30 meters, practically it makes bombs like SDB 4-5 times less effective.
Some details about SDB and GMLRS electronics:
- GPS DIGAR -- accuracy ±5-8 meters without suppression.
- INS HG1700 -- deviation 10 meters per 30 seconds fly if GPS was suppressed.
- Laser-guided -- laser from small drone 2.5 km from target (drone lifespan usually 1-3 sorties)
Ukrainians uses GLSDB (ground launched SDB with speed 250 m/s), but they trash compared to GMLRS (Himars missiles with speed 830 m/s), faster projectiles means better accuracy with INS. When GMLRS gained speed and gyroscope has activated during first minute after launch, this impossible to influence it during flight. To suppress GMLRS for sure you need EW-station at height of 12 km on the enemy territory, but small EW-drone can't reach such attitude. I do not know, what tricks we used to suppress GMLRS, enemy rarely uses it against units further than 10-20 km behind frontline, but can try up to 50 km distance if sees drone team or supply convoy.
Himars can launch GMLRS from 75 km (usually from 25-50 km zone behind frontline). Fly time 3-5 minutes, accuracy ±5-8 meters without suppression, usually 2-3 projectiles with cluster warheads against one target, equivalent of 100-150 unguided 152mm HE shells or 30-50 unguided cluster shells (2-3 injured, 0.3-0.5 killed). Production quite numerous, about 15-20k GMLRS in 2025FY, but reserves are exhausted, we sees missiles with new 2023 electronics.
GMLRS is most dangerous ground based weapon in NATO arsenal. GMLRS effective only against stationary targets (coordinates loaded in warhead before launch). Keep in mind 5 minutes period between detection and launch. Body armor reduces lethality by 2.5 times.
I hope, you will find some good use for it. Other answers tomorrow.
I just wish we would stop putting geriatric patients in charge of the nation.
>>393289>Quite literally, the only one who actually fell for this 4d chess game is Trump himself!Well of course, Trump is really easy to figure out and manipulate, because his ego demands that he is always the smartest and most powerful person in the room, regardless of who is in the room with him.
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views. Which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."
I doubt any removal of the likud party will be permanent. They tried that in 2021, but the coalition fell apart and the likud rapidly reasserted power.
>https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-june-26-2025/LOL
>Khamenei: US entered war as it feared Israel ‘would be completely destroyed if it didn’t’The average American can't even find Israel on the map.
There are even American jews who want nothing to do with Zionism.
The US entered the war because Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot, the President of the United States of America.
He tried to manipulate Congress as well, but there are just too many skeptics and gainsayers there.
>>393318>Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot>He tried to manipulate CongressA gentle reminder.
God... This is the literal definition of PAIN
>>393318>The US entered the war because Bibi skillfully manipulated his favorite useful idiot, the President of the United States of America.Tbh, I think Bibi has yet to get the result he wanted. Bibi wants total regime change in Iran, and he wants the USA to fight the war for him. Trump just bombed a couple nuclear sites that can be rebuilt in a couple months.
Trump is motivated by vanity, and war is an ugly thing. He clearly wants this conflict over as soon as possible. He's also a narcissist, and seems to be keen on detecting manipulative egocentrists like Bibi who would try to disrespect and take advantage of him: that's why he was so openly angry at Bibi and berates him on TV the other day for breaking the ceasefire.
Trump is definitely still a Zionist and will do what's best for Israel, but I don't think he's going to buy into Bibi's self-destructive warmongering plan just yet.
>>393321>Bibi wants total regime change in IranYup, and he has already been pressuring Trump to "finish the job".
>Trump is motivated by vanityWell, he can take comfort in the fact that he can call himself a wartime President, setting himself up alongside Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Reagan, and George W. Bush.
>Trump is definitely still a Zionist and will do what's best for IsraelHe moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, long in Bibi's wish-list because it affirms Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.
>>393290>>393292>BLAH BLAH you write too much and you care too much about what people say on the internet
that means you still have some dignity and hope to care to prove yourself for a random nigga on the internet
at this point i am just too depressed to give a fuck who is a good firend and who is a bad foe
life has been shit for all of us in iran
anyway
glad you're alive , and i don't care if you're basiji or npc or mossad or whatever the fuck you identify as
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also you need to stop talking to that arabtard, that guy is a troll and he never posts in a good faith
Side note:i swear to god the whole IRGC runs by the Jews
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CENSOR A SITE THAT IS BASED ON ANTI_SEMETISM and hating on israeli dildo nose jews?!
that is a ((GOOD THING))
>>393292wow i made a mistake by actually reading that....
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE??!?!?!?
the main character ass mentality syndrome
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you are defending iran in a 4chan based site
by shit posting about israel
THAT IS NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING!! not for iran not against israel
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let me honest with you
Iran is not Persia , stop with the delusional nationalism
see the bad sides
persia was that father that was like a veteran hero whom was respected by everyone in the family
Islamic republic of iran is that autistic child who is a total embarrassment for the whole family , a retarded guy who is hated by everyone
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>>393291welcome to mlpol , everyone are a jew shill until proven wrong (which never happens)
i am not a kafer , i born christian and i die as a christian
deal with it
i am not a nihilist , i just hate humanity as a whole
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god you are sad and you are trying too much for idk for what reason and i am not sure what the fuck are you trying to prove here
>>393322>Yup, and he has already been pressuring Trump to "finish the job".I don't think Trump is going to do it. If he were open to doing that he would have done it already, and not played around bombing the nuclear sites or brokering ceasefires.
>Well, he can take comfort in the fact that he can call himself a wartime President, setting himself up alongside Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Reagan, and George W. BushExcept the era of those assholes being popular has passed. There is no public appetite for war with Iran, despite what neocon warhawks claim.
>He moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, long in Bibi's wish-list because it affirms Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel.Yeah, I know. He's a Zionist shabbos goy. This has been clear for years.
Idk if that means he's about to enter total war with Iran though.
Iran’s Supreme Leader Threatens to Attack More U.S. Military Bases: “We Slapped America in the Face”
LOL, no. They lightly fondled our dick. If they're really feeling froggy, they could always, I dunno. TOUCH THE BOATS.
>[YouTube] Dont Touch America's Boats
[Embed]I refuse to be held responsible for the consequences that follow if they do, though.
>>393327it is just bluffing , don't worry , from the day i born i was hearing him saying that he will destroy israel and usa
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did anyone here saw those AI khamenei speeches??
i don't have twitter so i cannot post the actual video but here it is with ass-mon reaction (sorry about that)
[YouTube] Iran response to Trump..
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>>393328i can't with the fucking accent in the video....that is not farsi accent
>>393284>Idiot! Who even asked for a lecture on arab culture for you to start copy-pasting the entire arab encyclopedia?!3 lines of words about arabs isn't an entire encyclopedia you're just too retarded to comprehend it
>Let me explain something to you, maybe then you'll actually understand what this is about:>I'm a Lur myself, and I spent the first 13 years of my life in Khuzestan, living among Lurs and Arabs. I've seen Arab culture firsthand, the festivals, the traditions, the community. I know enough about it, and unlike you, I actually respect the Arabs of Khuzestan.>They have real honor, courage, and a warrior spirit, their culture means something.People of khuzestan are part-persoid mutts in both ways of culture and dna which is probably why you don't bother them because they're almost as swarthy as your "people", not because they have real honor or whatever you're babbling about
>My whole point is: why don't you arabs know your own identity anymore?>Why have you abandoned your deeper culture in other countries and started acting like losers?We haven't abandoned anything, the identity and culture of buckbreaking iranians and their puppets is still here
Centuries ago the arab khalifs crushed your sasanian grandfathers like cockroaches and now whenever iran tries creating an organization or a movement in the gulf it ends up getting crushed too
>I don't know, maybe this kind of honor and dignity only still exists in Khuzestani Arabs…Definitely not lol
>So don't go thinking you're talking to someone ignorant.You are ignorant though
>I know plenty about you, and that's exactly why I'm shocked at how far you've fallen and how spineless you've become.Living between khuzestani mystery meat doesn't mean you know anything about pure arabs
>And btw, I didn't attack you for no reason.>You were the one who made a dumbass comment about Iranians first, so I simply had to show you just how stupid you really are.My original comment about iranians is still true
>Maybe now you'll learn not to run your mouth with every worthless take that pops into your head.Nope, still haven't convinced me about anything
>Well, finally! Maybe the arabs are starting to wise up a little and realize that some dreams are just too much of a fantasy for them.The majority of arabs have always hated ba'athism
>Well shit, guess the arabs are still brain-dead.>No surprise though, they seem perfectly fine getting fucked by Israel while just sitting there like pathetic little cowards, doing absolutely nothing.The arabs that are getting fucked by israel currently are the ones who still haven't learned to not fuck with them first in a random and idiotic way, which are of course the same retarded iranian puppets (hamas and hezbuallah)
>That's an incredibly gay take.>You arabs are no different from the UN: completely useless and passive.>It's honestly ridiculous that this is the kind of response you come back to me with.Sure, arab leaders are cucked and useless, all leaders of all countries are cucked and useless.
You should keep in my mind that i don't lean to any country or nationalist group and i hate all governments including mine because of religious reasons you're probably too retarded to understand, i should've said this before.
but i would still prefer pseudo-sunnis over iranians and their minions any day
>Yeah, the first part of your post is just you regurgitating my own damn words back at me. Nice job...I was just showing you that i think that specific part of your post but in a way of showing that it's shameful or something, whatever you wouldn't care
>But moving on:>You arabs seriously must have some chronic memory loss.>Wasn't it Iran that sent forces when ISIS was busy raping half of your arab lands? Or did that little fact magically slip your mind too?Mentioning ISIS and them "busy raping" arab armies is not the own you think it is, ISIS fucked up maliki's regime and alot of iranian-backed nusayris in syria, that's one of the few reasons why i advocate them and support them against all arab regimes
>Let me remind you:>Groups like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and even a bunch of your so-called "freedom fighters" in Palestine were trained, armed, and backed by Iran.>Because let's be real, without Iran holding your hand, you guys can't organize shit on your own.And guess what happens to these groups? They always pathetically lose against kikes and get raped by US airstrikes, because YOU are the ones that can't organize shit and end up embarrassing yourselves
>And this idea that Iran is "afraid" of direct war with Israel?>That's some next-level delusion.>Iran would jump at the chance for a ground war, it would steamroll Israel with superior numbers, real soldiers, and actual battlefield grit.But they do, southren lebanese areas (excluding the borders) are fully safe for iranians most of the time because it's protected by hezbuallatcucks, iran can literally just send their soldiers there using airforce equipments and have a real face to face ground war with israel but they don't because as i said, they're cowards
>It's Israel that's too much of a coward to face Iran...Both countries are too cowardly to face eachother
>Iran could have treated them like animals...They kind of already do sadly but not in a direct way
<iran sends guns and rockets to groups in gaza<these groups start fighting israel with it<gaza gets destroyed to ashes<israel wins<cycle repeatsThis is actual animal treatment for palestinian people
>And yeah, I know Iran never really saw you as true allies in the end, because they knew the truth about you, that if you ever got power and stayed in it for a while, you'd drown in your own pride (like what happened to Assad).C'mon now you know iran doesn't actually care about that, assad has drowned in his own pride since the moment he became president and as a result to that a revolution happened in his country and iran still backed him up
>And yes, Hamas has always had issues with Iran and never really acted like a genuine ally.>But I'm not sure about that 99%.>All those videos you see on arab media, are they really made by that 1 percent?They kind of are made by that 1 percent yeah, (and of course i didn't genuinely mean 99%, just a large majority) keep in mind i was only talking about palestinians
>Because honestly, in most of them, I saw people supporting Iranians...Opposite for me
>Yeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.And the other 30% betrayed them? Idk man that sounds like a big enough percent to call you betrayers
>I have never seen a people truly face genocide while other same countries just turn a blind eye...Well you haven't really seen throughout history then
>A backward arab doesn't get that this is a rhetorical question blah blah blahSure but still nope
>That minority who take almost all the money from your country...Like who?
>I mean the ideals of pan-arabism, sunni ideology, arab spirit and independence, and basically everything that defines a true arab.What you meant is nonsensical then, "sunni ideology" and pan-arabism don't match with eachother
>>393285>>and now you think you're really in a good position?This was a part of your post which i accidentally forgot to quote correctly ignore it
>Iran's got the balls, and damn good ones!>Iran can just threaten to do something and totally mess with your oil prices, which is the backbone of your economy!>It easily sends warnings to your arab countries, and you end up shutting down your biggest air routes, clearing the skies for Iran...All threats and warnings by iran to arab countries are nothingburgers, either not actually doing shit or no type of harm actually serious or relevant enough to cause them to collapse
>And if you think all that was just a staged show, then Iran can make the U.S dance to its tune...I don't nor do i care about the other things you mentioned about iran-US rivalry, i'm talking about arabs here.
but for a fact the US can wipe the shit out of you guys and you know it
>And if the day comes, Iran will also have the balls to actually close the strait of Hormuz...I really bet on that
>And idiot! You didn't even get the main point!I used that scenario to show how easily your country can fall apart, and you're all pure arabs with no foreign-backed opposition.
Even without foreign backed opposition iran still can't take on arab countries alone or have the balls to do so like i said
>Let's change the scenario if you dare:...Lol what? We're arguing not playing a game you can't just replace the subject of the point you were trying to make like that, i'm not even gonna bother replying to this
>LoL! Your stupid politicians, just to suck up to him, would bend over and fuck him if they had to.Sure but still don't care what he calls some ocean region by
>Idiot, more Iranians than that one percent rich arab elite live in luxury societies.Source? Proof? Evidence?
>Btw, I'm a poly-eng student right now...Doooon't care
>Also, I don't get why you arabs always want to compete and show off?>Why do you always flaunt things you didn't even work for?>Why are you so jealous and obsessed with money and luxury?Everyone likes doing these things, you sound like a broke faggot coping and seething about people who have the capability to own luxurious stuff
>You even show off your dick like you're the only ones who have one! (yeah, you did that dumb shit in this very thread >>393047)!Persoid sissy whining about his tiny clitty getting mogged by arab cock, sad, many such cases!
>Believe me, showing off your dick and luxury doesn't help you at all.Never said it does
>Stop this gay ass behavior already<t. IranianInsane levels of irony here (look at picrel)
>Something like the early islamic caliphates or even Assad's current regime had some degree of arab independence...That shitty regime doesn't even come near islamic caliphates
>Running around in the open is really a stupid move. The chance of getting injured even in these pointless escapes to nowhere is pretty high.How do you know they're running to nowhere? They're probably just trying to go to a safer place
>Btw, this was one of the videos I saw. There are plenty more that show you really have no clue about war.I've seen a million videos that came from inside actual warfare, you're not as knowledgeable as you think you are compared to me
>You're complete cowards and don't even consider the fact that Iran could have attacked the american bases inside your territory...Why would we only consider that? Iran could be attacking anyone
>I mean, do these idiots really think Iran is going to target a shopping mall or something, so they just randomly hit places like that???...They did in fact target random places while air striking tel aviv, it's normal they would consider iran is doing the same thing while air striking other countries or cities
>I think you should go watch videos of Iranian people during the missile war and compare them to your own.Not much different
>After all, there's a difference betweenAryans and Semites.
Indeed, aryans are just another random irrelevant race and semites were chosen by god to have all known prophets and religious figures
>I'm glad to see you have some logic, but have you considered that the only arab country that directly fought Iran (and that was when Iran was at its weakest) was Iraq?Yes and it was a useless war
>No other arab country has had direct conflict with Iran since then.Why would they?
>If Saudi arabia or any other arab country acted like Saddam, you'd see that arabs wouldn't stand a chance against Iran, especially now that Iran has grown stronger, as you witnessed in the recent war.Actually the recent war proved the opposite, just compare the casualties of iran to the casualties of israel since june 13 (look at picrel), it's a big embarrassment for iran
>Even though Iran entered your arab airspace, you couldn't do much about it.The iranian missles that were sent to qatar ended up getting destroyed by air defense systems before reaching the targets, that's enough to be much of a doing about it
>I wish you had at least posted pictures of some of the poor neighborhoods in southern Tehran. As they say: "از این همه پیامبر، جرجیس را انتخاب کردید!" LoL!"All of these prophets, chose george"
Wtf does this even mean? Is it some kind of unfunny iranian inside joke?
>The photo you sent is actually a part of the native and local areas of Mashhad (right near the shrine), which have all been endowed in the past.Good for you guys ig but i still have other examples of slum shitholes in modren iran
>Even though the land there is very expensive, the local owners prefer to keep its poor-looking, non-materialistic appearance, something that's probably beyond the comprehension of you luxury-obsessed arabs.So you people love to see your shitholes still looking like shitholes instead of improving it? Yikes, so backward, so primitive
>And again, you're doing the whole "one-upmanship" thing?I'm just showing you how terrible the architecture of your people is before thinking you're that developed, that's it really
>I can also show photos of your poor neighborhoods (which happen to be quite numerous)!>https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opinions/2019/12/23/vision-2030-and-poverty-in-saudi-arabiaThese neighborhoods are called "العشوائيات", they're usually found in the western parts of the country where it's filled with non-arabs and it's already getting removed anyway lol, what a failure of an attempt to make a similar counter-argument
>And don't think slums or poor areas are anything unusual in the world.I never thought that
>Why are you so obsessed with showing off luxury? Is it some kind of mental illness?Why are you so obsessed with hating luxury? Is it some kind of iranian inferiority complex?
>Idiot! How the hell would something like Aramco(or better yet, "Americamco") survive without the U.S?You do realize there are alot of foreign countries that participate in aramco other than america, right retard?
>Or let's forget that sanction scenario I mentioned earlier, if, hypothetically, the Americans just left your country and cut ties but didn't sanction you, could you honestly say you'd stay stable??!Yes.
>Bilakh!?
>>He has a genetic connection with the jews and, like them, is semitic.Most modren jews (israelis) barely have any semitic blood
>>He's more money-hungry like the jewsEveryone is money-hungry in somewhat way, don't lie to yourself
>>He's arrogant like the jewsYeah because i'm definitely the arrogant one here and not the iranian nationalist who thinks he's better than everyone, fuck off faggot
>>He uses his religion as a tool and changed it, just like the jewsLiterally how, elaborate
><But the dumb arab thinks Aryan Iranians are like the jewsYou absolutely are
>Bro, with your nonsense, you just shook Cyrus' grave on vibrate mode!Your jokes aren't funny
>I think I get what's really bothering you. You're just a jealous sunni arab.<point out the similarities between you and kikes<"YOU'RE JUST A HECKIN JEALOUS ARAB!!!"Do you even know what jealous means or do you just throw that word around whenever someone disagrees with you
>First of all, please don't start that stupid shia-sunni debate here(others can't understand it here).Why do you care if others understand what we're talking about? This is a personal conversation between us two
>I'm neither an expert nor do I have the patience to argue with a brain-dead arab like you about it. Just know this: I have watched plenty of debates between shias and sunnis, and in every one of them, sunni arguments never convinced me as much as the shia ones. Also, I read your Sahih al-bukhari, a book full of drama, contradictions, and stories so unrealistic it turns into a comedy! Honestly, if you sold it as a comedy book, it would probably sell better.I don't give a single fuck about what some polytheist on mlpol thinks about my religious beliefs, but go on
>And about "Greater Israel" and all that, why does that remind me of someone else... Ah! You arabs! You who attacked other nations with Trojan-horse islam and still keep doing it, you behave exactly like the jews, only they're a bit smarter at it than you are.Islamic arab conquests were based, freed the middle east from false religions, and actually did happen, the idea of "greater israel" isn't based, believes in the implementing of an expanding of a state based on a false religion, and most likely would never happen because of how much of a non-realistic concept it is, there is absolutely no connection between those two.
>And about Iran, yes! The Persian empire and greater Iran are nothing bad. Unlike pan-arabism and greater Israel fantasies, greater Iran really existed and isn't just some sweet dream.Your pagan empire was wiped off the map by arabs 1400 years ago, you should probably worry more about zog missles hitting your home for now instead of hyperfixating about an extinct empire
>Iran was great in history, and greater Iran is forming right now, not just under this regime but by the Iranians themselves. Even if the regime changes, the army and irgc won't just vanish overnight. (Of course, this war delayed the regime's fall by a few years.)And greater iran is forming right now??? Holy shit please tell me you're just pretending retarded ironically, You can't be this delusional, your puppet state in syria got overthrown last year and you just embarrassed yourself in this recent war
-if anything iran's regime is getting closer to it's end
>That's exactly what you sunni arabs are worried about, because to build your own Islamic empire, you need Iran! Without Iran, you're stuck where you are.
Just a correction: *to build your own islamic empire, you need to condemn iran, with iran, your situation gets worse*
Iran stepping into arab problems always resulted nothing but iran wasting their money on military back-up just for their side to lose
>I have seen how hard you arabs try to tie this to Iranians being shia and say that if Iranians accepted sunni thought and joined the "Ummah", they would advance. Meanwhile, they're advancing anyway...
Advancing in failures maybe
>(you saw how different Iran is now compared to the Iran-Iraq war era)
Iraq successfully did a counter a offensive by the end of that war so idk what the goal you're trying to accomplish by mentioning it over and over again as if it's something to be proud of
>But you want to pull Iranians to your side so you can advance. Dream on!
Good, we don't need you
>Also, sunni worldview and their belief in the Messiah is more like the jews, while shias think more like christians. Islam came after christianity, so logically sunni beliefs should be closer to christianity than judaism, but clearly, you sunnis behave more like jews ideologically and worldview-wise, unlike the shias.
Judaism also came before christcuckoldy retard, what's your point?
>Could it mean sunni islam has gone astray and degenerated by jews? Just a theory...
A false theory yes
>And finally, you idiot! Why do you think just because Iranians and jews both seek glory...
The similarities between iranians and jews (which i already mentioned) have nothing to do with glory, it's disgraceful
>You sound a lot like a kike.
Projection
Well, when people hate you, and even after they get to know you, they still hate you (most hatred usually comes from ignorance) that kind of shows the problem is actually you.
People hate me because i'm right, they're the ignorants
>Look in the mirror and ask yourself: why?
Ask yourself why god chose you to be born as disgusting subhumanish filth
Yeah, yeah! Surely you're absolutely fucking right!
The so-called "Golden Age of Islam" wasn't basically one of those hellholes built by Iranians, and arabs? Yeah, they definitely don't want to stick themselves to that story or steal the credit! (Bilakh!)
The golden age of islam was built by all various races of sunni muslims
>And when your ancestors invaded Iran, they sure didn't see the Persian paradises (the famous Persian gardens, aka Iranian hellholes) and say, "Hey, these gardens must be the paradise promised in the Quran!" (And of course, those hellholes weren't beautiful at all, not to the extent that their Persian name "Paradis" ended up becoming the very word for paradises in so many languages!)
All this just for modren iran to be filled with ugly slums kek
>Almost all your arab regimes in past hadn't Iranian ministers and politicians controlling you, and you weren't actually living in the hellholes the Iranians made for you!
Yes, indeed almost all arab regimes in the past never had iranian ministers or politicians controlling the country and iranians didn't make our countries for us
>Let me give you a personal example for now:
>When we went to visit, we were surprised to see a lot of arabs in the waiting rooms and treatment wards! After talking to them, it turned out many arabs travel to Iran for cheaper and better healthcare services...
Wow arabs arabs from poor countries come to foreign countries for better services, who could've guessed Let me tell you something, i once were at saudi hospitals and just like you, i've seen alot of foreignes, but i don't bring that information up randomly and use it as a way to cope with the fact that i live in a hellhole, cheap and proper quality healthcare isn't special, even cuba has that, anyway, moving on
><Becoming an American colony,
And of course by "american colony" you mean not cucking themselves out for iran
>building a few more damn palaces for the rich,
The rich build palaces for themselves
>filling the country with whores and bitches,
Your women dream they can even be nearly as modest as ours
>killing migrant workers for a ridiculous project like NEOM
Of course the persoid feels bad for his jeet brothers who die working for their arab masters
>(which despite having astronomical budgets and no sanctions, isn’t progressing as planned),
Yeah mbs is slow at doing stuff, but it will happen, TRVST THE PLAN
>being unable to eradicate poverty and organized class disparity
Don't pretend like your shithole can do that either
>exploiting your own compatriots in the worst possible ways
Saudi arabia is serving it's compatriots best than anyone right now
>(something we wouldn't even do to our enemies)
Funny because you even do it to your own allies
>and failing to hide all your actions (like Khashoggi),
Khashoggi deserved it and we're not trying to "hide" his case we just don't care
>financially supporting terrorist groups and suffering
Literally never happened ever
>losses from them yourselves, and so on...
Losses from what???
>Yes, surely we Iranians cannot perform this much stupidity and passivity all at once...
You guys mastered it
>Ha! And then your own governments were controlled and eventually overthrown by Iranians!
What governments?
>In fact, you pointed your dick at Iran, but Iran shackled that ugly dick of yours and tamed and controlled you.
We pointed our dick at iran and they sucked it
>The fact that you think you raped shows how empty and useless your mind really is.
Cope, we raped the sasanians and we will do it again with modren iranians
Anyway, i only qouted necessary stuff to be responded to, that's all
>>393333Again, qouting mistakes
Whatever, to the guy i was replying to if you're reading this just take it as an alarm and try noticing the qouting mistakes and not confuse it with my actual words
>>393331>>393332>>393333god , you have to be one of the most unemployed people i ever seen
and your finger must hurt rn
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anyway , that is pic is from turkish qaznavian era
and yes turks were faggot and kinda still are
>>393335It is? Okay i don't care i have other examples of persian faggotry anyway
>>393336brother , seriously stop with the keyboard warrior bullshitism
also who cares?????
I don't like faggots but i definitely hate child marrying pedo (you)
i do believe that is worse
>>393337Fuck off you don't tell me what i should do on the internet
Also if you hate child marriage you're a brainwashed npc unironically
>>393337Anon, you're doing yourself by arguing with "SandAryan"
>>393338>you don't tell me what i should do on the interneti am just saying that it is embarrassing and sad (it does not comes from racism , you are just making a fool out of yourself)
>Also if you hate child marriage you're a brainwashed npc unironicallythis post is approved by Diddy and Drake
The entire stretch of land between egypt and india is just full of crazies, I guess.
>>393340It's not sad or embarrassing it's just a casual imageboard conversation, if that amount of words is too much for your braindead ass to comprehend then go back to tiktok or something
>>393339>you're a hypocritei know , i know...(sigh)... FUCK!
>>393342this is my theory:
1) during cold war USA needed islamic irrationals to get in power in middle east because of communism growth
commies are against religions so it would be natural for islamist to not accept them
that is why governments in iran and afghanistan suddenly changed
first thing iran did after islami revolution was to mass execute commies and marxist in iran.
also islamic radicals help to make oil countries to be always chaotic or atleast the whole middle east
cause oil countries can become rich super fast
2) about israel
i think israel created to be the first defense system for europe
after it existence , ,they fastly give it atomic bombs and advance warfare
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>The entire stretch of land between egypt and india is just full of craziesanyway , you saying that with a us flag while not realizing that USA always was involved in a war from the very beginning
war with native americans
American revolution/Patriotic wars
Civil war
WW1 and WW2
Cold war (vietnam and cuba)
iraq and afghanistan
(waiting for more sequels)
i don't think anyone in this planet is sane>>393343no u
>>393344(1)
Sorta close.The Iranian Islamic Revolution happened in 1979 because theShah of Iran (propped up by America) took a trip and his government was overthrown on his absence. American hostages were seized and held for over a year to prevent the USA from taking military action.
Afghanistan went down the way it did because the USSR invaded Afghanistan, and certain elements in the United States saw a chance to give the Russians a black eye by supplying them with advanced weaponry and training. Then when Russia finally got sick of wasting blood and treasure and left Afghanistan, the Mujahideen freedom fighters said, "Hey thanks America, we could not have done it without you. How about helping us rebuild, the country's kind of a mess after all that," and the American government just laughed and turned off the money hose. SO radical elements took over and became the Taliban, and the Mujahideen became the core of Al Qaeda.
We create our own demons. This is why identity politics are the worst, they lead to (proxy) wars of ideology with no thought given to consequences.
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Israel. Don't look at us, the UK created that mess in 1947. America just supported it because "muh Judeo-Christian friendship" (there are still more Jews in America than there are in Israel). You can thank Donald Reagan and the so-called "moral majority" for fanning those flames in the 1980s. Yet again, identity and ideology lead to drama and devastation.
>>393345<exaclty thanks for understandingi think nowadays that the same strategy does not needed anymore
most arab countries at least the big ones developed friendship with america (mostly after "arabian spring")
i guess ameica is tired of islami terrorists
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about israel , i think they - specially nethanyahoo's zahoonist party- do need a fake ass big bad bully count dracula to terrorize their citizen , they don't want to get rid of khamenei yet , if it disapears israelis have no reason to vote for him anymore
Islamic republic scared the whole arabic countries in the way that most of them sided with israel
>UK did ityeah i think US needs to stop listening to UK's plan
side note:i don't know if it is true or not but
i heard that in UK's blue book - a book about what britz did in WW2
they unironically aided natzi germany in believe that they will stop USSR from growing in Europe
...well we saw how that bite them in the ass later
>>393347>they unironically aided natzi germany in believe that they will stop USSR from growing in EuropeYes, this was how the policy of "appeasement" got started. The thinking was, "If we just let Hitler do his thing for a while he'll be satisfied and his little empire will be a good buffer against Bolshevism".
Of course, classic hubris, Hitler decides it's not enough and he needs more resources (especially petroleum) to keep up his blitzkrieg, so he invaded everyone in Europe.
The United States probably would not have even gotten involved in WWII, but then Pearl Harbor happened (basically just Japan saying, "The Western Pacific is our turf, stay out of it and sell us oil") and lo and behold, a country that was born in war and defines its history by warfare suddenly got war fever and the shit hit the fan.
America was aggressively uninterested in what was going on in the Middle East, so long as the oil kept flowing. But then OPEC decided to throw its weight around in 1973 (The Arab Oil Embargo) which taught America how vulnerable its economy was to resource manipulation, and so the U.S. government got a lot more interested in meddling in the Middle East after that.
>>393349Ironically the aftermath of WWII led to an expansion of Bolshevism (the Iron Curtain), so yeah, that worked out really well, didn't it.
>>393349yeah!
other than what you mentioned
hitler was a ww1 vet who came back to his country and when he was what they did to his his country (harsh dept and sanctions and military restrictment) angered him so much , so no matter what happens he would take revenge from europe
so helping him never was a good idea for the west of europe
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Anyway talking about fuhrer
i found this video two weeks ago about translating
HOLY SHIT how right he was and how his prophecy about jews came true
[YouTube] AI RECONSTRUCTS HITLER'S SPEECH TO ENGLISH (Extended)
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>>393351Yep, he definitely had a major grudge against western Europe for WWI, especially France and England. That's why when France surrendered in 1940, he forced them to sign the instrument of armistice in the same railway car that the allies made Germany sign the Armistice of 1918 in. He had a real hateboner for France.
>>393352damn i wished that he also ordered to change the french language and their accent as well , that would be better than curing cancer
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also i wish that japan would not be an idiot to attack USA
if US never got involved , germany might have won in Europe
>>393353The USA was bound to get involved eventually, isolationist sentiments notwithstanding, as America was one of the allies that defeated Germany in WWI, so the United States was also on HItler's Revenge List for sure.
>>393351I gotta admit, though, it's tough to take that video seriously when the AI translation sounds like a monumentally pissed-off Eric Idle, and the subtitles have errors in them.
>>393355i mean still it is kinda cool to hear his voice in english
I guess i just wait till AI gets even better at it
also it is good that now average normie can hear his preaches
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No one ever called him a liar once--
Anyway i need sleep and i won't bother you no more Anon
stay safe and take care , i wish luck and peace upon everyone here
>>393358Maybe, but wouldn't we already be at war with Iran if that were the case?
>>393359I think Trump is anxious to avoid being mired in another Middle East conflict with no exit plan, particularly since that was a big campaign promise for him. But to be telling Israel's government that they should drop the Netanyahu corruption prosecution? Seriously? What next, he's going to call upon the ICC to rescind its arrest warrant for Netanyahu as well?
>>393338A sane person I see.
>>393289>I’m not a military expert, but I'm curious: if Iran were to decide to close the strait of Hormuz, how exactly would it go about doing it?>Would it be done selectively? For example, would chinese ships be allowed to pass?Iran has strongest naval denial capabilities in region, but actually any nation in region has this capabilities from now. Major threat for tankers is subsurface kamikaze-drones and miners. Cheap and easy to replace, hard to detect, hard to stop, need expensive and long-building infrastructure to protect route against them. Ukrainians uses Starlink to control them, but underwater drones can be autonomous (ship classification is trivial) or controlled by fiber optic cord. We started to use naval convoys for tankers in Black Sea and Baltic because of this threat, but tankers still extremely vulnerable. They are not attacked daily just because of agreement.
United States, China and Iran has similar kind of agreement for a many decades. Do not attack tankers, since any side can do this on major routes. And if faction like ISIS appeared and will try to make funds through piracy and blackmailing of insurance companies, all nations of agreement will erase this bastards together. But currently this agreement much more beneficial for China than for USA. This is why Trump started trade war and trying to take his share of profit through tariffs, but currently USA presence in the Middle East degrading, as well as diplomatic authority and capacity to project force by fleet. If USA leaves bases, China just replaced them. If USA decided to stay there, China may try to attack bases through proxy factions during next steps of escalation. Trump has two choices: change agreement to save at least some part of influence, or unleash major war in region to stop most of oil trade for next decade and hurt enemy more than itself (and he uses this strategy very often in war with globalists). But USA can't stuck in another Gulf war with own forces and can't allow existential threat to Israel at same time. Currently Trump's party trying to change agreement through this strange buffoonery of war. But they are ready to escalation.
I do not think that any selectivity is possible. If Iran close the Strait of Hormuz for unfriendly nations, the EU and US will be furious and just stops all ships by own forces. But USA can't make first step and close strait with own fleet and drones. All Trump's politics about image, he can't threaten chinese tankers directly or bomb american oil kikes property. So, he just provoke Iran, and each following provocation stronger than previous. One of my friends noticed, that for one of Nimitz–class carriers, which directed to Persian Gulf, this is last voyage. They scheduled replacement for 2026 year. Another Liberty-level happening possible.
Maybe China give in and sign new agreement to buy more time. Maybe USA give in and just focus on own problems. But if Trump really has serious situation inside country, then he will use any opportunity to unleash chaos in Persian Gulf and hurt China's major oil route when it still possible. Finally, Iran and Israel have own existential goals.
>I think Iran and china have made some plans for such a scenario, but until something actually happens, we can't say anything definitive.Definitely. Persian Gulf extremely precious for China at least for next 20-30 years. They are trying to replace cars to electric ones, they ramp up their metallurgy only to extract more lithium and rare elements for accumulators and magnets, they cover deserts with solar panels, but oil requirement still overwhelming high. I don't know much about their current strategy. Usually under strong pressure they took a step back on major front, but two steps forward on another one.
>>393284>Yeah, but not nearly as much as you do! Even in this war(Iran-Israel) the regime had plenty of opposition groups, but about more 70% of them, when the fighting started, stood by their fellow countrymen instead of betraying them.I was quite impressed by this, but shamed at same time. When the war started and government decided to draft reservists, most of our opposition just run away in days and breach borders with Georgia and Kazakhstan like stormtroopers. But when economy show growth instead of decline and industrial salaries skyrocketing, they suddenly returned like nothing even happened. I watched in their blogs how they one by one turned to be comical-level vatans and support government louder than even most crazy patriots before the war. My faith in opposition saved one woman from liberal party, who works in medical reanimation: she don't leave country during hard days, and still hates regime.
Do you heard about fourth generations of Ibn Khaldun? The oldest, simplest and most precious model of social decline. First generation come from the desert and conquered the city. Second generation build country and expand borders. Third generation growth cypresses and makes poetry. Forth generation are conquered by barbarians from the desert. I see this cycles everywhere. USSR is perfect example, from first generation of revolutionary militants to soldiers and engineers, who rebuild country after war, then generation of scientists and lost egoistic generation of national disaster. And from 1990s another cycle again.
Looks like Iran was attacked, when second generation of soldiers transfer authority to third generation of liberals. Psychological part of this attack could be much devastating for fourth generation, but kikes clearly can't wait 25 years more. Unfortunately your rich neighbors along the Persian Gulf don't know experience of existential war for a long time. Your northern neighbors, like Azerbaijan, follows current Russian expansionism cycle and Iraq just pass his revolutionary ISIS moment. I think, Iraqi is your natural allies in the following war.
>>393285>Meanwhile, Iran has been under harsh sanctions for decades, with separatist groups supported by foreigners and a diverse ethnic makeup, yet it hasn't broken apart!>You? No way! No other country could handle what Iran has and not break apart!Because Iran has imperial spirit. More than nation, more than tribe, but order and spiritual kin. I always laugh at 4chan anons, who dreams about etnostate. The strength of true nation is not separation, but will to guide others forward.
>>393296It's quite sad, that Russia don't have political culture of protests like Iran or France. As northern nation we mostly more hierarchical, calculating and autistic than southern tribes and because of this any protests usually means serious level of insurgency. But people don't have ways to shed frustration, except internet. And It is difficult to blame opposition, when they don't fell connections with course and decisions of government. During USSR period we had soviet and national organizations with real authority, but they turned to be vulnerable to diasporas and external influence, especially in modern world.
Thanks to war connections between nation and government slowly restored. It's hard not to admit right course, if Europe and USA directly fought against us. On the other hand, it is like narcotic for government. Hard to stop, when deep social problems can be fixed just by price of 6% GDP and some dead provincials.
>>393325>you are defending iran in a 4chan based site>by shit posting about israel>THAT IS NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING!! not for iran not against israelActually Iran has more influence in the western media than many of European countries. I like to use 4chan for this kind of lazy-tuned research and results was interesting sometimes. For example very strong and independent country Indonesia looks like black hole from 4chan perspective, but Iran was stable mentioned in a lot of conversations. Context doesn't matter, any kind of fame can be useful (our clownworld politics like Trump demonstrated it again and again). Indonesian voice at the world arena 15 times lover than Iranian one.
So, from this perspective you are voluntarily or not defending Iran too.
>>393364>not posting the superior version
>>393349>The United States probably would not have even gotten involved in WWII, but then Pearl Harbor happened (basically just Japan saying, "The Western Pacific is our turf, stay out of it and sell us oil") and lo and behold, a country that was born in war and defines its history by warfare suddenly got war fever and the shit hit the fan.Pearl Harbor was inevitable when USA close oil import to Japan. They can't even maintain campaign in China with their own oil production, so their attempt to seize Indonesian oil was predictable. But I think USA did not expect so impudent attack.
Reminds current situation a little.
>>393370The United States knew something was up, because there were diplomatic negotiations underway in Washington, which in a case of spectacularly poor timing, the last communication from Tokyo arrived after the attack was already underway. Communications in 1941 were not as instantaneous as they are today, so the Japanese probably hoped that it would take longer for news of the raid to reach Washington.
It is of course because of scaremongering yellow press cartoons like that that Executive Order 9066 was issued, resulting in the forcible internment of 120,000 Japanese American citizens in concentration camps.
>>393366I was not in possession of that version, thanks.
Sites targeted by Iran.
>According to various Israeli media reports, damage spanned residential buildings, scientific infrastructure (e.g., labs at the Weizmann Institute in Rehovot), the Israeli Defense Ministry complex, and commercial hubs like the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. Iran also struck a military target near the Soroka Medical Center in Be’er Sheva. The medical center was hit by the blast wave, which caused extensive structural damage, a chemical leak, and dozens of injuries. The Israeli press claimed this was a direct strike on Soroka, but the fact that no one was killed undermines that claim.
>Iran also struck the following residential areas, reportedly targeting Israeli military and intelligence officials:
>- Bat Yam: 9 killed, ~200 wounded; high-rise apartments destroyed.
>- Ramat Gan: Nine buildings destroyed, hundreds displaced.
>- Haifa and Tel Aviv: Strikes near military HQs (“Kirya”) and civilian neighborhoods.
>>393365no what i meant was that , it would not help iran in any shape or form
reality is that the nationalism of the other guy kinda blinded him to accept iran lost with the most casualty and damages
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iran is like that 1st grader who wants to mess with those 6th grader bullies
of course he will lose
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other than that , i see it as siding with a government that i hate , iran's islamic government is a total imbecile whom only has power against its people and for waste majority of it's existence oppressed us with the excuse that they are helping gaza and islam against israel
which always was a lie
they never harmed anyone other than iranians
>>393384but i believe , israel would bring so much hatred to itself that the whole world would turn against them
because of how much of an obnoxious asshole they are
and how much they force themselves on everyone's throat
>>393401esmail ghanaei... i heard a lot of people always calling him a spy , don't know why
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few day ago , IDF claimed that they called some of the higher ranks in sepah (/irgc) and scared them to join their side so they will not be killed on the later missile/drone fires
i guess these are them huh?
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i am not sure but one thing that is a public knowledge is that there are a tons of spies in iranian's government on the top
some of the mullahs here are even called akhoond-e-englisi (mullahs of britain) which means they are also spy and shills