A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent years. Disbelief in the whackiest conspiracy is taken as a sign of disloyalty and anything other then the most retarded take makes you a shill. Examples include:
>you think jews are nepotistic and spiteful to their hosts?
>well I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
>you think the pharmaceutical companies are greedy assholes who pray on the despairation of sick people?
>Well I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
>you think mega companies moved jobs overseas because the CEOs are amoral pieces of shit who care more about money than the future of their country?
>Well I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
>you are worried about 5G because you think it will greatly enhance digital surveillance?
>well I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
>you think the covid vaccine was bad because lockdowns were used as an excuse to attack political enemies and side effects were ultimately worse than the disease?
>well I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
>you are worried about AI because of job loss, propaganda bots, and surveillance concerns?
>well I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
>you hate Hollywood movies because they are controlled by a few studios who push stale liberal trash?
>well I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
Ect
It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well. This has only gotten worse over time and I suspect it will only continue get worse over time. Is there any way this can be stopped before it collapses under the weight of its own bullshit into a flat earth singularity?
And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent, but silly shit like germ theory denial and flat earth are becoming more common especially on the right. Is there a way to stop this?
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I think jews are actually a cult of satanic baby eaters you deradicalization, shill!
I think everything the pharmaceutical companies sell is poison and I'm taking wormwood extract to cure my cancer, you cuck!
I think its all part of a plan to weaken the West and install communism, FED!
I think 5G will cause cancer and mass death, fag!
I think its all a part of the NWO depopulation agenda, pharmakike!
I think AI is actually a demonic force in computer form, fag!
I think Hollywood is putting secret symbols and predictive programming in their films to control the population, tranny!
[Read more] >>390847>trend>the right>has been emerging>recent years>over time>I suspectThat literally isn't happening, and if it is, then not on the meaningful scale that you think. Either you created a fake scenario in your head because you clearly don't touch enough grass, or you're straight up being a malicious gaslighting son of a bitch.
Man, I remember those shitposts. Back when edgy contrarian stuff was hip on account of most internet people being teenagers.
Thanks for the memories, fedposting faggot OP.
>>390850You go to 4/pol/ and tell me at least half of these aren't the the majority positions.
>>390852>4/pol/ represents the entirety of "the right"I LOL'd and I KEK'd. Thanks Anon.
And btw you haven't really made a point besides
<"People who have different reasonings from mine are wrong because... t-they're different!"Can you even prove any of
>>390848's claims are inherently wrong?
>>390847My theory goes like this:
The theory that says "most conspiracy theories are just paranoia"… is itself a conspiracy theory!
Yes, I know, mine is too. You can call my theory delusional, then I'll call yours delusional..., and so it loops.
Well, your thread made the "Chaos Theory Spiral" itself!
But let's be honest for a second: don't get too worked up. Let the geniuses and the idiots share their theories. In the end, the one who's still alive gets to say "told you so!"
That’s it...!
>>390854I should have said far right, but even on the normal right many of these are becoming more popular and the point I am making is that when people argue against any of these things they are immediately accused of disloyalty even if they agree with almost every policy decision. If a backlash doesn't come soon this will devolve to the point of flat earth becoming a major tenant of the far right.
>>390859>If a backlash doesn't come soon this will devolve to the point of flat earth becoming a major tenant of the far right.Wait, are you seriously saying flat earth theory is becoming a core issue for the far-right??? Alright then, we have got five options here:
1. It's actually happening: well, fuck the right!
2. The left wants us to think it's happening: well, fuck the left!
3. You're trying to make us think it's happening: well, fuck you!
4. Maybe I'm just being faggot: well, fuck me!
5. Maybe the whole thing is bullshit: well, fuck everyone!
Take your pick
[Read more] >>390860Flat earth is not even a concern, except to flat-earthers who want to pretend anyone cares
I do not think it is happening yet. I think it will if the trend continues. The logical conclusion of all institutions are 100% lying and part of a satanic conspiracy and if you disagree you're disloyal is flat earth becoming dominant in those communities. There is no other way that ends.
>>390864>>390864And I don't want to imply that only the right does this kind of shit. I mean leftoids expect you to believe that niggers are poor because whitey is mean, the world will burst into flames if you eat steak, and that a man turning his dick inside out becomes a woman. But ultimately those retarded beliefs cost the left dearly. I worry the right will soon make a similar mistake.
>>390847Can you disprove anything of that?
>>390869I guess not. I can't disprove Islam or the idea that there is an invisible leprechaun dancing on the table either. Sorry I questioned your religion.
>>390869But it isn't so much about the conspiracies themselves its disbelief is seen as disloyalty. I mean you are already accusing me of bad intent when I made it clear I don't believe any of it.
>>390864>>390867So you're basically going with option 5, huh? Alright...
But if you already know it's all bullshit and nothing has happened yet... Why the fuck do you even care???
Just don't give a fuck, same way I don't,
same way most people here don't!
Why rant about something you admit is worthless??!
Seriously, save the energy for something that's not a joke.
Believe me, all the dumb shit that ends up becoming "a big deal" one day usually starts with this kind of talk.
So just drop it and don't give a fuck.
>>390873>But if you already know it's all bullshit and nothing has happened yet... Why the fuck do you even care???Because over time this kind of shit will cause a similar problem for the right as it did on the left. Look if you are angry that I called this or that conspiracy retarded just point me in the direction of the community that doesn't require me believe in satanic cults and doomsday prophecies to hate niggers and kikes and I will be in a place where I don't have to see it all the time and can ignore it. Believe me I have looked, I'm not sure it exists.
>>390875Wow bro, what a genius move!
Seriously though, every political and religious ideology ends up in the same basket.
Name one utopia that ever rose up and actually proved one of those ideologies right.
>>390878Well of course utopian aren't going to happen. A perfect world run by imperfect beings isn't realistic. Utopia shouldn't be the goal only a better system then what we have now.
>>390877Cross bridges when you get there. All you're doing is wasting everyone's brain cells thinking unusable things.
I get it, ideologies need moderation to stop insane zealotry, but that's energy that could've went to putting it to practice, seeing what tangibly works and what ought to improve. Stuff like libertarianism will never be taken serious because they spend all their energy wrangling their minds and not enough doing actual shit, good or bad.
Right now is not a time to second-guess: throw it all on the wall, then we'll see what needs to go.
>>390880That is a fair point, but still we should counter bullshit when we see it. We know exactly what happened to the left when they required ideological adherents to believe retarded shit.
>>390877Picture this: some dude's out on the street, screaming his lungs out holding a sign that says "I hate pizza!" Now if you just smirk, shake your head, and walk past him like any normal person, nothing happens. He yells a bit, gets tired, goes home.
But the moment you react(whether to argue or support), BOOM! Now he thinks he's starting a damn movement. Fast forward, and suddenly you've got crowds outside a government building, yelling about... pizza.
So here's my invitation:
Join the "Don't Give a Fuck Society".
We don't care about dumb shit. We don't feed trolls. We don't treat every hot take like gospel. We just move on, keep walking, and let the nonsense die in silence.
Wanna join?
All you gotta do is calm your tits, and stop reacting to every idiotic noise like it's the second coming.
>>390882We are at the point where some of these movements have already started. They aren't huge yet but they are becoming real movements. Just ignore them as they gain influence? At some point you have to call out the retards.
>>390883I get where you're coming from, but I think we're looking at two different things here.
If you're talking about stuff like LGBT or feminism, yeah, they've grown big and influential enough that ignoring them isn't an option anymore. But the real mess started because people reacted early on. If we'd just ignored a bunch of loud faggots calling themselves "gay" decades ago instead of making it a debate, they would've yelled into the void and disappeared.
So yeah, fight what's powerful and influential. But also, when dumb new crap like flat-earthers or whatever pops up, don't give a fuck. That's how we should kill bad ideas before they become problems.
>>390883Retardation is a mind virus: the more you think about retarded things, the more you grow retarded. So, like, don't.
>>390886Point me in the direction. You have incentive. If such a place exists I will go there and you will never have to be called out on retarded shit again.
>>390884You remember that old "are other there freaks like me" comic. Where some trans otherkin faggot finds a community and contributes to the growth of retardation? I think that same thing is happening with schizo retards. As retarded as Tumblrtards were they managed to leave a real scare on the internet and poltical scene. I hope that doesn't happen again from the right.
>It isn't enough to distrust the failing institutions, you need to believe they are part of a satanic plot as well.
I disagree.
>And I know many of you will claim that some of the crazier claims are pushed by bad actors, and you are probably right to some extent
This is more what's being said. A lot of time if you mention "conspiracies" that are outside of the group's accepted ones, you get called a bad actor. People will claim that your intent is to ruin our optics and push potential recruits away. This is not what happens though since if your ready to become a "nazi", you have already cross the line of no return, being "known" as a flat-earther at that point is not a problem.
>Is there a way to stop this?
I don't think we should. I think it's a good baseline to entertain any idea and I don't like how conspiracy theorists can dismiss other theories for being "conspiracies". Conspiracies have happened irl. We shouldn't dismiss them as all wrong and instead try to verify ourselves their validity by case by case basis.
>>390888Nigger I've been here since 2017. I have thread on golden oaks. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bad actor. See this is what I am talking about. Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.
>>390890>See this is what I am talking about. Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.Eww, no.
If after all these years you are still not redpilled, then I have a bridge to sell you.
>>390889>We shouldn't dismiss them as all wrong and instead try to verify ourselves their validity by case by case basis.At some point there needs to be a limit. When people start making unfalsifiable claims and shouting down demands for evidence as "shills" I think that would be a good baseline, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Look at the satanic cult shit or the covid die off theory still going strong after almost 5 years now. Left unchallenged this shit will grow.
>>390892I remember when the red pill was simply realizing blank slate was bullshit and jews were nepotistic. I miss those days.
>>390893>or the covid die off theory still going strong after almost 5 years nowThere are very good reasons why.
>>390892Are you happy with how you posted it this time? I just wanted to check, in case you decided to delete and repost, like you did. Oh, didn't think anyone noticed?
>>390896>Are you happy with how you posted it this time?The edit was to correct grammar.
these instead of
this.
I don't give a shit who's right in this thread, everyone are faggots anyway. But watching you guys argue feels like a 3D character yelling at a flat-ass 2D cartoon trying to explain what depth is.
>>390895I don't think there are. Especially after the excess deaths started declining and over half of the excess deaths weren't even possibly related to the vax. Pretty sure the vax can't cause fent overdoses, traffic accidents, or niggers nogging.
https://tapnewswire.com/2022/05/31/rof-dolores-cahill-everyone-who-has-had-an-mrna-injection-will-die-within-3-5-years/Fuck me I cannot type today.
>>390897Uh huh. Let me know when you fags are done posting and deleting. For the record, all you have to do is keep the thread open, and you can see what stupid shit got posted and deleted
>>390903Its mostly just corrections when people delete shit. I feel like an edit button would fix the problem.
>>390902The pandemic drove everyone insane. Most of this surge is because of that.
>>390848with respect to the OP, is it purity spiraling? Or agree and amplify?
>>390902>I don't think there are.The hints are in the open, it is up to you to make an investigation and join the dots.
The pic is not meant to be mean, but to state a fact.
>>390905I delete the post and retype them when I make mistakes. You get angry about the deleted posts. If you don't want people to delete the post then add an edit button so people can make corrections when they make typos.
>>390908The irony of that quote is lost on you. Any evidence I post will be accused of being falsified by a secret conspiracy.
>>390909>you get madYou are simply adorable. I don't care that you delete and repost, I'm just calling you out for it because I'm quite sure you were hoping no one noticed.
It's to emphasize that in spite of your VERY spirited posting, you're still not 100% on what you want to say, hence the deletion and reposting
>>390890>Disbelief is viewed as disloyalty.At the same time the Flat-Earth thread on /vx/ is still, what I would describe as compromised, since you can't make a new thread on the topic and it has reach its bump-limit.
>>390896>Are you happy with how you posted it this time? I noticed but I don't think there was any significant change between the posts.
>>390893>shouting down demands for evidence as "shills">Left unchallenged this shit will grow.I feel like that if there's demands for evidence, it's not left unchallenged.
Look, it's worse if the site starts to enforce rules and stuff. Removing spam and stuff sure. Having containment threads, sure. But controlling narratives because, "the debate is settled" could lead to something I, or you, believe in being a restricted subject matter.
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>>390910>secret conspiracyNot secret at all, the knowledge is widespread across internet and for years pouring into normie spaces. In other words, the redpilll has gone mainstream and can't be stopped.
>>390910Everyone here's a damn devil's advocate. They'll justify literally anything and bitch about everything. Quit wasting energy trying to change minds, just gather the takes and move on.
>>390911Dude I made a typo and corrected it. I've been called a shillbot for making typos here in the past. Just no winning I swear.
>>390912While not a huge gaffe, it speaks to how the poster in question isn't concerned with getting their points RIGHT as they are getting them MADE.
>>390914No, hyperreality induced insanity has gone mainstream. Questioning the blank slate will still get you blacklisted. Chasing shadow conspiracies that don't exist is of no threat to the current elite. Questioning the very moral foundation of globalism, feminism, immigration, and diversity on the other hand...
>>390918>No, hyperreality induced insanity has gone mainstream.This is rich. Do you really believe anons are equal to anti-White commies?
>>390919Fun fact: Any anon can be someone, and two minutes later, someone else entirely.
>>390918>Questioning the very moral foundation of globalism, feminism, immigration, and diversity on the other hand...Let me resume it for ya: Judaism.
>>390917I think both probably just need to take step back and calm down.
Making errors because of sloppiness induced by either laziness or anger, does not change the validity of their claims. Not saying that's what's happening here, just that if that's what you think is going on then even if you're right it doesn't really change anything.
>>390920SOME anons are more willing to stand by their previous statements than others
>>390922Agreed, I'm poking fun cuz I've been there. It's unslightly, no matter how you slice it
>>390919At this point, no, but look at the critical mistakes the left had to make to even get any of our views heard. Denying human sexuality would get you banned until people started pushing back against the insane troon shit pushed down everyone's throat. No vaccine discussion was allowed at all until it became obvious the left was using pandemic as an excuse to go after enemies and the vaccine was not as safe or effective as hoped. Questioning immigration could lose you your job until it became obvious how damaging the effects were. The left demanded people believe absurd shit and then people pushed back. Let's not do the same thing.
>>390921Jews did push blank slate more than anyone else. Mostly because they have an interest to do so.
>>390926>Mostly because they have an interest to do so.Yup, they are still butthurt because the Romans destroyed their muh temple, and since then they want revenge on their descendants.
>>390927Eh, maybe that is part of it, but I think the bigger reason is because they are afraid people will kick them out again once they realize the kike community takes advantage of host nations at the expense of everyone else. The blank slate theory gets people to pretend like such behavior isn't a pattern.
>>390922I really want to agree with you, but at the same time, I'd rather just enjoy watching this chaotic fight.
>>390925>of youDelicious. Are you going to adress the part where one party said ridiculous and unsupportable things, while the other party said "No, you're retarded", or are you going to leave it at trying to characterize both parties as being stupid?
>>390931Look, I don't know about this dude, but as for me, I just wanna play the neutral guy here (I'm not in the mood for an argument). And since I can't take both sides, I just mock both of them. But yeah, I've got no idea what his goal is.
>>390847>A purity spiral trend on the right has been emerging for a while now but it has only gotten worse in recent yearsI missed this. Whoaaa.
It reminds me of a woman just lurking /pol/
>>390931>Are you going to adress the part where one party said ridiculous and unsupportable things, while the other party said "No, you're retarded", or are you going to leave it at trying to characterize both parties as being stupid?What? That sounds like both parties conducted themselves incorrectly. Like, "No U" isn't an argument.
But anyway, you're wrong on me not taking a side or something. If you read again, I said, "calm down" not, you're both "wrong" and I certainly didn't call anyone stupid.
Besides, not taking a side is a valid position one can take.
Also, I don't wanna be involved in contentious debates on the internet anymore. I still regret how it went down with Nigel and that was like almost 3 years ago or something like that since I really debated him.
>>390936>If you read again, I said, "calm down"Do I not seem calm? Who then are you talking to?
>>390938Well, I don't know who you are in this thread since your ID is new but the people my original post referred to was the guy who wrote posts and had to delete them and re-post them to edit them and the other guy who got hung up on that instead of just continuing arguing the subject matter at hand. But you are right, I don't know which state of mind people are in.
>>390932I'm perfectly happy playing the neutral party, but one side is arguing in bad faith.
>>390939Oh, you know who I am. I agree that in this argument, one side is behaving rather disingenuously (and is - appropriately - quiet now).
But we're not going to get into the habit of conflating assertive and intellectual resistance to ideas as being "upset" or "un-calm".
This is among the most shameful of rhetorical fallacies
>>390940>conflating assertive and intellectual resistance to ideas as being "upset" or "un-calm". What I thought illustrated that Anon was 'not calm' was him commenting on deleted and reposted posts of the other guy. But I don't even believe that being upset or 'not calm' makes your claims wrong. I meant more as an advice to step back before the thread derailed.
>>390942I'm usually not calm myself and have to take a step back often in order to gather my thoughts.
This was a disappointing waste of time, but I did feel entertained.
Please consume your medication before typing things, faggot OP.
>>390945I also disagree with OP but I'd prefer if you explained what you felt was a waste of time, instead of just insulting OP. If the two of you openly shared your perspectives with each other, I think we all could walk away from this wiser. ^^
>>390945OP couldn't get his point across properly, and you were nitpicking unimportant stuff. So if you consider this a waste of time, I think both of you are to blame.
>>390942In a dawn-out sense, we agree. While you were counseling OP to step back, I was making fun that he didn't, and was looking foolish
>>390952Pretty much all of these.
I didn't read this thread. I just wanted to say that the CIA popularized the term "conspiracy theory" in order to discredit people that were calling them out on their bullshit.
>>390982Horseshit, you read the entire thread front to back, and I don't know why you pretend otherwise
>>390952I know about the kike herpes kiss and never said that new things couldn't have side effects and maybe overstating a problem could be useful for propaganda purposes, but it doesn't really help anyone reach truth especially if you commit to it or the claim is obviously false.
>>390984The sad thing is even if I try going over the top some how it's an underestimation of what's going on.
>>390902Well, let us find out what's going on with the covidians at the hospitals today.
Video is from this week. A pureblood woman is gloating because she did the right call and she's witnessing that people are sicker than ever.
Screenshot is from today. Scott Adams is going down.
>>390995How more fake and gay do you have to be?
>>390847>autists noticing thingsB-but, sure it is just a cohen_cidence, it has to be.
>>391005There is a difference between pattern recognition and pattern seeking.
>>390995A senior dying of cancer isn't exactly proof the world is ending.
>>390995Please note, you were not being called fake or gay, it was an exclamation of frustration, because quite frankly it doesn't take a genius to see the likely outcome being boomers tanking what remains of the economy just to TRY and secure 15 MORE minutes of "fame", and let the rest burn.
>>390975>>390987>>390995>>391005$10 bet says all of these posts were made by Boom Boom and can thus be ignored.
At some point we have to face the facts.
No matter what you say about shitskins, Whites simply aren't very smart or brave, the vast majority of them. They can see through almost no propaganda at all. They go along with authority, and don't even understand that thinking to a different conclusion and going a different way are options.