/go/ - Golden Oaks

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/224996/6/silver-star-apple-and-the-search-for-more-money-love-the-meaning-of-life-and-magical-cards/6-the-first-and-final-sentence
Here's the chapter, skip the part where Twilight and one of the OC's "totally-not-shadow-clones" date.

>>3546
It'd be funnier if that was the case, but to be honest, I just forgot to post the URL in the first post.

>>3544
You literally just made a thread about exactly this story and exactly this chapter. Why do you insist on making several threads about one singular fanfiction and then complain when we tell you to get off the stage?

Welp, since you blocked me and called me a librul, here's my reply here, shitstain.

>calling liberals liberals
You've been calling the entire board liberals in every thread I've seen you in. You know, /mlpol/, the nazi horsefucker board dedicated ENTIRELY to the intersection between nationalism, weeaboo culture, and MLP? Clearly we're all liberals who just don't get your genius.

>makes you a dumdum at fanfics and politics
Your reading comprehension game seems pretty off. I told you once and I'll say it again: all I'm saying is that your ego's overinflated and just because you can write things doesn't make you god's gift to literature, and you should stop making several threads about your stupid fanfictions where they aren't welcome. But because you're so high IQ from your Rick and Morty watching, you see "doesn't make you good" and took it as "makes you bad."

I see another thread on the site too. What a shock. Get off the stage.

>>3544
You're cute.

You know what the real sad thing is? If Nigel wasnt such a self-felating shithead spamming the board with 10 threads and was in reality capable of improvement based on criticism things could have turned out a lot different.

He could have made a big fiction thread where people could read, discuss and post about the subject, generally improving board quality and eventually becoming a site staple where people post quality selfmade literature, maybe. I am pretty sure people have suggested something like this before.

But we all know this is not reality, Nigel chose the low road. And now every shitthread he makes about himself will end up like this. Much like CWC, Nigel never actually listens. He makes threads about himself to get attention. And he will get attention. But not the kind of attention he was fishing for.

>>3551
He unironically helped pay for four hours of Leddit time, until he was suspended.
His account was a minimum of 19 months old before suspension.
With previously mentioned server time money as a minimum amount.
I tire of making fun of him though, overall boring, except the Ben10 stuff, but mods are based (may spank).

>>3552

You seem to have deep insider knowledge about Nigel and his exploits. Compared to you, i am barely at surface level. I strongly suggest you hold onto it until he goes off the rails again. Dont let it go to waste. I am sure third parties like kiwifarms and the likes would love to get introduced to the exceptional specimen that is Nigel.

Nigel's the guy on 4chan who has some program set up to get triggered when someone posts an image that's also on Derpybooru, so he can get triggered and call any MLP fans his program detects a "Barneyfag", yes?
I don't see why you're repeatedly trying to forge a connection between me and the alt-right. I mean, trying to forge a connection between me and some guy you don't like.
Really, what do we have in common?
I thought the whole point of anonymous discussion was that losers like captain Vril Society Flag over there can't bring their identity-politics "I believe this man is a bad bad man because x! Now I will give him a derogatory name and call his posting here a sad thing because reasons!" nonsense.
What happened to discussing ideas, instead of people?
I didn't expect a site called /mlpol/ to be so in love with SJW tactics.

>>3548
Now comes the part where you say I'm "literally calling you a lurral" for calling you out on your dishonest use of SJW tactics to shut down discussion and brand me with this "Nigel" label.
Come off it. You and your backup buddies have told me how you "feel" about what you think I am and who you think I am, but you have yet to make an argument.

>identity politics
>SJW tactics
So how's 2015 this time of year?

>>3556
To use the vernacular,
>a fucking leaf

>>3557
That's Mr. >LEAF to you, shitbird.

>>3559
Oh the humanity

>>3554
>not knowing the 4chan terminology that British flag = Nigel
>thinking that we don't like the alt-right or that we're pushing you together, when in reality you're posting in a place where everyone here is further right than you and is sick of your normie shit and would rather compare you to a nigger than their political ally
>touting horseshoe theory like Sargoy of Cuckad
>accusing people who rightly tell you to go back to reddit or quit shitting up the board that they're JUST LIKE THE LIBERALS SILENCING THE POOR INNOCENT MODERATE CENTRIST WHO DINDU NUFFIN RONG

>after all this, after several threads, you still post about your stupid goddamn fiction, not even bothering to use the thread DEDICATED TO FANFICS AND IMPROVING YOUR WRITING
>missing every single social cue you've come across since revealing yourself by your fimfic name, and yet pretending to know anything about the /pol/sphere by using the leaf meme

Just. Fucking. STOP.

>>3545
I was very interested in this part.
>“What is, ‘Poser’?”, She asked. “It means ‘Faker’,” He explained, and she smiled and nodded in understanding. “He was a loser who pretended to be cool. But he was terrible at pretending. So he looked very, very lame and uncool.

It's strange to me that you know this, but don't have the self-awareness to figure out that you're being one with your constant self promotion of your fanfiction here. You come across as, and I think I speak for everyone here when I say this, a self absorbed faggot who thinks he's making an observable difference in the world by beating them gosh darned SJWs in a piece of fiction, fanfiction starring your self insert as a pastel horse at that. Furthermore, you've gone and lumped Fascism in with Marxism betraying a lack of understanding the differences between ideology and governmental structures.

Since I'm pro autocratic as fuck, let me educate you, Fascism is a form of government where all powers are concentrated into one person, or group of people which are still nominally elected in some manner as opposed to Monarchism where right of rule is inherited. Marxism is an ideology which preaches communal ownership and complete lack of any kind of government, Communism. Real Communism has never at any point been achieved in the real world because it's fundamentally at odds with human nature, the closest anyone has ever come to implementing it is Socialism, which operates under similar rules, but everything is owned and operated by the state which is an evil all its own as the ruling party is typically well looked after due to their status while literally everyone else is treated as a disposable underclass, ie Stalinist Russia, or Russia at any point under 'Communism' really.

On a side note, it was unbelievably difficult to read even as much of your story as I did due to its self insert nature, it may seem good to you, but no one else is really going to enjoy reading about how you single handedly saved the world and how great your self insert is. Now, I'm going to politely ask you to stop shitting up our board with your attention whoring, no one really cares about your fanfiction and to most it seems like you're trying to employ us as your personal army to get your upvote dopamine hit, that shit's not good for you Nigel. Rise above it.

>>3561
So british flag means Nigel now? Why say it like it means "Person whose opinions I don't like"?
By the way, how do flags work on this site? Do you use your real flag until your post count rises high enough, and then you get to "rise through the ranks" of fictional empires until you get to the coveted Equestrian flag? Sure, because post counts and other status symbols don't go against the point of anonymous free discussion of ideas at all.
>>3563
That part was inspired by one asian person I know who starts momentarily talking like that upon encountering a word she doesn't know the meaning of. I'm not sure why you'd fixate on it in a fic where one cartoon horse beats the shit out of another and then rips off a certain scene from a show I'm guessing you haven't seen. Why mention that scene in particularly? Was it where you stopped reading? Is it an inherently posery, fakery, uncool cringey mega-lame un-self-aware naff thing to write a fanfic like this? If so, I'll keep that in mind. See, you aren't my target audience, even if you are one of those entitled cringekids. So why should I care how hard or easy reading my fic is for you, if you don't have anything intelligent to say about its content? You aren't paying me to write something "everyone" will enjoy.

Putting the amateur hour criticism of my work aside and moving on to your personal attacks, I'm not """constantly promoting""" my fanfic, but it would make for a more interesting and less irrational conflict if I was. The SJWs here are back to the "shouting buzzwords" phase, because the purple flag kid's attempt to dig through my reddit post history and find something to use against me failed. One of them decided to mention this out-of-context in another thread, hoping to start "le board drama" by getting confused people involved. God, could you kids be any more transparent in your attempt to shit at a wall and blame it on me? I think I saw a meme about that behavior from some Glimmer-fanboy raiders attacking this place a while ago.

Rise above them, "le 51% face".

>>3564
>amateur hour criticism
You really don't see how pretentious it is to stage a debate about Marxism in a piece of fiction where you control both debaters and the crowd? It's tell and not show and that's what makes it bad, but if you want to just ignore the few legitimate criticisms you're getting, more power to you.

>I'm not """constantly promoting""" my fanfic
Perhaps not, but you have made a number of threads about it and your fimfiction page, and every time, someone has told you to fuck off. If you don't care that you're not writing for every demographic, then you must realise that no one here is among your target demographic. At the very least you'd post your shit in an existing thread, but your ego seems to be inflated to such a degree that you believe it deserves its own special thread everytime you choose to post about it. That's actually what bothers people the most, all the threads are just about you specifically, if you changed the format to a thread about fanfiction in general and then plugged your own in it to get things started, you'd get a few people calling you out for the self plug, but at least there'd be a wider topic up for discussion.

Also you must be new here, it's because Nigel is a very British name, if they were trying to insult you properly, they'd be calling you Mohammad because England has been turned into Britbongistan.

>>3565
>Britbongistan
First time I've heard that particular name. I'll stick with Bongistan, I think.

>>3564
Nigel, I'm not going to argue for or against you or your fanfiction. Frankly, I like to keep politics as far away from everything else as I can, and that includes fanfiction, so I don't think I'll read it. Instead I'm going to explain in no uncertain terms why everyone keeps shitting on you. What you do with this knowledge is up to you.

The answer?

Nobody really cares. That's the entire reason you keep seeing "Es Jay Double-Us" telling you to fuck off. Nobody cares, and yet you keep making new threads for every update on the fanfiction very few people here are going to read and taking up space on the front page. If there's anything you should be taking from arguments like >>3565 it's that this should all at least be confined to its own thread, preferably a thread dedicated to general fanfiction and writefagging.

>>3566
>>3545
>I like to keep politics as far away from everything else as I can

I don't particularly favour politics in media or at large, but the real problem is found in contemporary politics and other 'contemporary' issues/struggles/events used in media.
These are ideas that are aged before even being written about. Very good way to make a piece of media age poorly, most ideologically motivated leftist directors tend to simply not consider this.
Politics in media is better given way to the timeless concepts or conflicts. They work far better as subjects.

If anything the only problem I have with this particular fimfiction-chapter -thing- by Silver is the fact that Silver is the kind of person that thinks everyone who argues with him is a le libturd, that or he (very consistently) seeks to 'compare' the people he argues with to epic sjaydoublejoos whom he believes he b t f o-s.
. I mean just look at >>3563
He just can't -not- fuck things up and it's blatantly apparent from the way he acts, so surprise-surprise when he fucks something up.

>reaches for a horseshoe tier comparison
>socialism is literally right there
>...
>muh facism and marxism

DIE BARBIEFAG. THIS IS YOUR MINDSET!

>>3567
B-b-but antifa are the real fascists! Democrats are the real racists! ^:)

Squeaking in the distance grows louder with every post from nigel.

>>3567
Vril I'm confused, are you calling me a barbiefag or him, where the bloody fuck did eqg enter into this?

>>3569
It's supporting evidence HE is the barbiefag! He must die for bumping into me on the street once and calling me a faggot on Fimfiction!

>>3564

Good News, Nigel!

I build you a personal "What If" Machine!

Now you can see how your life turned out if you were a little bit less of a human failure, which fame, money and women!

Let me get my finger enlarger...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVX4dMpNOyQ

Alright Nigel, lets talk. This Fic is shit. Its full of overly used, obviously plagiarized, obviously sourced, and none-of-it-original material, themes, and ideas. Not only is it all of those things, its simply not good writing.

“Daga kotowaru!” The Dragon-mare declared, appearing behind Twilight with a mouth full of flames.

“Nothing personal, kid!” Silver announced, appearing behind the Dragon mare with his Spellblade out.

“Daga kotowaru!” The Dragon-Mare declared, appearing behind Silver with a mouth full of flames.

“Nothing personal, kid!” Silver announced, appearing behind the Dragon mare with his Spellblade out.

“Daga kotowaru!” The Dragon-Mare declared, appearing behind Silver with a mouth full of flames.

“Nothing personal, kid!” Silver announced, appearing behind the Dragon mare with his Spellblade out.

“Daga kotowaru!” The Dragon-Mare declared, appearing behind Silver with a mouth full of flames.

“Nothing personal, kid!” Silver announced, appearing behind the Dragon mare with his Spellblade out.

“Daga kotowaru!” The Dragon-Mare declared, appearing behind Silver with a mouth full of flames.

“Nothing personal, kid!” Silver announced, appearing behind the Dragon mare with his Spellblade out.

“Daga kotowaru!” The Dragon-Mare declared, appearing behind Silver with a mouth full of flames.

“Nothing personal, kid!” Silver announced, appearing behind the Dragon mare with his Spellblade out.

Quality stuff. If anyone is wondering, that is entirely unmodified. That part happens while Silver is engaged in a Naurto fight early on. There's no point to the fight, other than to attempt to establish how much of a bad-ass Silver is. Oh, this goes on while Silver is taking Twilight on a 'not date' (and yes, of course she wants him). I should also mention that the dragon mare tries to hit him with a Kamehameha, which he counters with a "Hamena Hamena". Real shit.

"No one being will be allowed to get mad at her, and nopony that gets mad will be allowed to stay mad at her, unless he or she is the bad guy in this character’s ‘Story’, either temporarily or permanently. Her backstory will make little to no sense, as if she just popped out of the blue one morning and made something up on the spot when questioned. It’s like reality is a game of Walls and Warlords, and the Dungeon Master made her own character, and gave her the coolest – and most sympathetic – backstory she could think of, plus infinite stats in everything that matters to the writer. As if the writer is doing that thing where rather than establishing things about the character, or influencing the character and his or her goals and worldviews, the backstory exists to impress potential fans. Long-lasting relationships will dissolve and romantic partners will treat each other awfully or die, all for her benefit. Miraculously powerful items will violate whatever normal cycle of inheritance they would normally have and fall right into his or her lap. Impossible abilities, impossible improvement rates, all with no justification. It’s as if this anomalous entity emits some kind of mind-altering field that forces others to react how the anomaly wants. The universe loves her, and can’t give her an adventure that doesn’t paint her in the best light possible, even if it seems unnatural, even artificial."

I'm sure there are plenty who will appreciate why I included this piece. This is the part where two of Silver Star's Shadow Clones 'Silver Spares' are watching another 'Spare' who is having a discussion with Starlight Glimmer. And just in case you're wondering, of course he can use the 'Spares' to learn at an accellerated rate just like Naruto! And if you're wondering how such a technique exists in ponyworld, its cuz he made it! Oh, he's also a world class martial-artist. And he's got some sort of weird technological device that allows him to fly at a speed that caused Twilight to have to keep up.

And an insufferable, selfish, arrogant little ‘I am smarter than you, only I am right, only I know what is best for all, and any who seek to oppose me are wrong’ attitude. With a heaped tablespoon of ‘I am what I am and wanting me to change that is wrong’

^:) I must admit, I only got halfway. Apparently he gets invincible when he's angry; "Old Pandarian secret". He's also a billionaire. I'm sure it gets much better tho after I stopped tho.

Tl;dr "Silver Star" (the OC) has successfully out Mary-Sue'd Glimmer, with absolutely no respect for any characters in the MLP world, at a HS Freshman writing level, and (you) don't like it cuz you're an SJW leddit glimmernigger libtard.

>t. SJW leddit glimmernigger libtard

>>3573

Jesus Christ.

Its one thing to shill a shitty fanfiction. Its another one to not shut the fuck up about it until its done like Nigel does. But this? A self-insert OC shitfiction? This is bottom of the barrel tier sjw tumblr tier. this belongs in a deviants video. I cant wait to see the trainwreck that will be his Pokemon game. This spells disaster with every word.

>>3573
After reading that little bit of analysis, I went ahead and tried to stomach the chapter for myself. I think you really undersold the shit factor, if I'm being completely honest.
Well, if nothing else, this trainwreck makes me feel so much better about the self-insert South Park fanfiction I used to write as a HS freshman myself.

Whoooooo boy, that last half of the story was something special. About ¾ of it were made up entirely of the author's self-insert monologuing about his e n l i g h t e n e d ~ anti-ess-jay-dubya, standard-issue Liberalist® 'ideas', against a completely OOC Glimmy who gets put under a 'truth' spell; or as I like to call it, the '+5 Curse of the Strawman'. Everyone surrounding him during his e u p h o r i c ~ "debate" with Glimmy was of course cheering him on, mind-controlled by Silver (with nary a hint of irony in sight) and reacting to his 'le ebin sick burns :kappa:' exactly how you'd expect them to react.
Then we get ourselves a wonderful little fight sequence after Glimmy's 'loss', where our good buddy Silver utilizes the full power of his not-Naruto superpowers to utterly obliterate her, and proceeds to laser-etch his fucking cutie mark on her forehead as his Orochimaru curse-seal, preventing her from saying a word about her "worthless and debunked Marksist ideology again" (sic) and forcing her to fix every 'evil' timeline she was in, along with aping I, Robot in the process. Personally, my favourite takeaway from the entire fight had to be his spell that "converts almost all physical damage to mental and emotional damage" (sic). Fucking poetry.
Congrats, Nigel. You've successfully made me feel completely at peace with my abysmally bad first attempts at writing when I was just starting out years ago. From the bottom of my heart, I thank you for that truly edifying experience. Such noble acts won't go unrewarded in my house, so take these Barbie Glim-glams with all of my blessings. May you never improve, siha. ~♥

Here's a strange question. If I listened to the people calling this story the worst thing ever, how would I improve?

>>3577
There are a fuckton of ways to improve. Hell there are hundreds, if not thousands of guides on the internet (even some on fimfiction). This website is not your personal writing improvement guide, nor is it a place to shill your work (unless you're good and unless it relates to the discussions in this board at hand) so fuck off and get better before coming back here with your shit.

>>3577
The consensus is pretty clear that your self-insert Mary-sue OC (with all his sooper-ebin powurz) should be the first thing to be addressed. After that, a legitimate portrayal of FiM characters would be a step in the right direction. Low-effort cross-series references and inclusions do not increase the depth of the story/characters, it makes it more superficial. Get ready for the next part.

Your narrations are good. They effectively invoke the images of the show, and allow the user to picture the characters in action. That's where you succeed. However, allowing the viewer to accurately visualize FiM scenarios and then scripting those characters to act disproportionately to their established persona is counter-productive. It makes the reader (not all of course) think "This isn't MLP, this is some shitty spinoff that only vaguely resembles MLP. At least he got the names right."

I think if you stick to canon characters, or if the included OC isn't teh most awesomester Dr. Nar-Who-to Goku Firebender Masterest Sorcurrurr, then you might have something.

>>3578
After reading leaf's synopsis I am absolutely apalled you would even ask such a question as "how can I improve." By using a character who has established personality traits you have trapped yourself. Do your research or make a new commie. The first thing you absolutely must learn is to actually get in the head of an SJW. Not only the what but the motivations behind it and the philosophy that leads to it. Second, if you write out a debate, you should write it from that mindset. Bonus points if you keep to the motivations that Glimmer has in-show, for added authenticity.

Of course that assumes a desire to create a story of some narrative consistency which is the bare minimum.

This advice is important for both fictional and real debates: know your enemy. If you want to convert a commie, you need to find out their reasons for being one and show them that things can and have been better under capitalism, fascism, or democratic republic. When a commie accuses a rich man of hoarding enough money to cure homelessness, tell them that economic disparity propels the working poor upward and gives jobs to the jobless, whereas forced minimum wages make people less capable of hiring. That kind of thing.

Honey, not vinegar. You get nowhere by waving your arms around declaring your opponent has abandoned lawjick like Sye Ten Bruggenkate. Anyone can make blanket statements like this without evidence and it puts the other side into a combative situation of raising their voice and making a spectacle. That may convert a few fence sitters but changing the heart of your opponent is so much harder than that.

TL;DR, the first step to writing a debate is not to lie or demonize, and the second step is to realize literally nobody likes listening to ceaseless insults without substance. I get sick of hearing cuck or commie and I'm as opposed to gommunism and nu-males as can be.

>>3572
>mock the idea of racism and fascism being bad things
>gets called an sjw

lmao lurk moar. Take like five minutes reading Alternative Hypothesis or Jared Taylor before you pimp your fanfiction on a site dedicated to securing the existence of our people and a future for white children.

>>3578
There isn't really a point for me to take you seriously. Not if you can't make an argument.
>>3579
Thank you, this is a good post. The part about the characters, I'll focus on that. I know the OC looks awesome now, but personality-wise, I had to give him personality flaws I don't have, so I could make him more interesting. I know "Thinks he is flawless" sounds like something an asshole would say, but I'm just... not an asshole. I don't have mental landmines that, when pushed, make me explode. The only problem I really have is with constantly assuming the worst of everyone, but that's due to my upbringing and I work hard to deal with that flaw.
Anyway, the writing.
I find it difficult to really pin down who these canon characters are, and are supposed to be, with how inconsistently they are written in the show. Part of me says to ignore how characters act in episodes where they look or act like asshats, and episodes that are just written badly in general, but that doesn't leave me with a lot of episodes. I decided to rewatch S1 a while ago to re-familiarize myself with how these characters were when I fell in love with them and this world, but there are still a lot of things I just don't know about these characters. I don't know how Twilight would react to having someone go Extreme Home Improvement on her house, for example. I can guess, but I know my interpretation of these characters will be different to the interpretations of someone who loved all episodes, or loved different episodes, or considers the shit episodes to be as canon as the good ones.
>>3580
This is going to sound really sad, but everything pro-commie Glimmer said in that episode is something I've heard from an actual commie over the years. I'm not strawmanning them when I say the ones I know and dislike seriously think all humans are poorly-trained shit dogs who need a firm-handed all-powerful state to show them dhe wae.
Does it count as strawmanning if you're having a "humans are shit and the system must dominate them" ideology repeated by a pony? Because the idea of a commie pony who hates things integral to pony society and biology still doesn't sit well with me, even after all this time. The character had to go because her nonsensical mary sue status was harming the show and the plots that could be told with it(for example, how can you tell a story about two friends learning to get along and get better at something if glimmer is there to be the best ever?), and glimmer having her ass kicked by a weaker smarter guy seemed like a better solution than having her say "I must go, my planet needs me" and float off into space.

>>3581
If you're wondering why I said fascism=communism in the chapter, it's so I can redpill confused people in the comments on the actual founder of fascism, some dumb leftist. Remember, the left are the real fascists.

>>3583
>I know the OC looks awesome now [...] not an asshole
>pic related
Everypony is an asshole; You, me, and all the assholes in this thread and beyond. I seem to recall telling you that once before.
Having said, you make a valid point wrt the consistency of depicted characters. On the one hand, there are observable inconsistencies but I admit that while there were (plenty of) moments I felt the characters were inauthentic, I don't have any suggestions other than what you have described.. As far as your OC keeping it constructive here, consider nerfing him in some way so that the Mane 6 would have to come together to 'save' him or whatever, perhaps using the knowledge and experiences they have had since he's been around. New readers are predominantly going to approach a FiM fic expecting it to emphasize Mane, and any OC you decide to include (Silver, et al) should be considered the "Guest Star" who compliments the Mane characters and helps them to succeed, as opposed to being a Deus Ex Machina that just comes along and fixes everything cuz he's so awesome (again, Mary-sue). As one so powerful (think Celestia) he would probably be more fixated on helping others to grow in their power and ability rather than fixing everything himself, alluding to the concept of "Never do for someone else something that they are capable of doing for themselves." Basically, a mentor and guide rather than the main character.

>>3585
You are not an asshole. And that sounds like a good idea, I'll do that.
Any other tips? I want to reveal Aquilla's(Silver's Griffon secretary and bodyguard) backstory at some point, but I'm not sure where it should go. Same goes for Silver, and how he went from weakling farmboy to awesome athletic muscle wizard.

>>3586
>not an asshole
DELET
To your question, the only thing that comes to mind would be something equally/more powerful than Silver. It doesn't need to be a matter of power level either. In Naruto for example, its not always a matter of raw power, but technique and strategy that can win the fight. To avoid a mega-god battle, it would make more sense if the adversary/adversity was a group rather than an individual, and better still if it is an "Unknown type" of magic or effect. Off the top of my head, here's what I'm seeing.
Perhaps Aquilla received an urgent message for Silver, which might call on them (is Aquilla a female?) to investigate a geography that might allow you to expand on their backstory while leading toward the discovery of this new threat?
Another question to consider, when in the FiM story does all this take place? Is it pre-Tirek, for example? If post, then the Mane6 going super-saiyan could be an effective counter-balance to what Silver (or whoever) discovers.

>>3587
It follows canon up to the end of season 6, then it diverges and becomes this. Seasons 7 and 8 just contain too much BS. Other seasons also have BS but I can fix those.
Silver and Aquilla(who is female and a hawk-panther orphan Griffon who was raised by a pony family) have pretty cool backstories. Though Aquilla's is kind of short. Should I post it here, so I can get feedback on it? I sometimes feel like it's too short.
The Talismans from Jackie Chan inspired these magical tarot cards the heroes are supposed to look for and collect, and some bad guys are also looking for them and collecting them. A group of three Diamond Dogs got the first card that was revealed, the Strength card, which makes you the ultimate fighter. I thought it'd add to the stakes if the hero lost the first fight, even with all his power, and his ability to bluff them was the only reason they left.

Inb4 OP becomes a lolcow.

>>3590
That's such a stupid newspeak word.
What is a lolcow? A "cow" that you "milk" "lols" from.
And how do you "milk" laughter from a lolcow? By harassing him (and very rarely her, but usually him) and typing laughter and "smashing that MF crying laughing emoji" no matter what he responds with.
There are pedophiles in the DNC, and they get away with raping children because too many idiots are too busy being distracted by reality TV, or too busy distracting themselves with this nu "DIY reality TV" shit.
Is it really the worst thing in the world when some child, teenager, or adult does something "uncool" where the manchildren can see, upsetting said manchildren? White Americans and Brits are still discriminated against in their own homes and academia is still being used to propagandize children for the benefit of libtards, so I'm going to have to say no.

>>3590
>>3591
>>3592

>OP becomes a lolcow.

Glimmernigel is showing all the marks that distinguish a regular mortal from a prime lolcow. Ever since i first encountered him here this only exaggerated. It is time for this bovine to make his degree at the steak university. All it takes is that someone like Fake Vril or me officially put him on the index. He will be immortalized as a humeme who brought great shame to the Alt Brony community.

>>3593
Name my crimes. Or rather, let me know what you consider crimes. Let me know why you think I've brought great shame to "Your" community, since I'm apparently also the guy who stopped your Glimmer-spamming raid on this website around a year ago, the guy who was also one of this website's first members. Let me know why you think "I" need to go on your liberal-style "Wall of shame" as a strawmanned caricature of someone you despise for ruining your idea of fun.

Also, can you let me know why you feel the need to turn this fanfic-discussing thread into a childish IdPol shouting match where you identify as the leaders and protectors and inquisitors of the alt-right and proceed to identify me as an "enemy of the alt-right" who must be "punished" through being called bad names on the board you could be using to dig up dirt on liberal Senators and other liberal politicians instead? Because there's a pretty big difference in post quality when it comes to the people offering feedback and advice on improving ny craft, and the wannabe- Comissar infiltrators trying to pretend they're not just alt-right, but also people "alt-right" enough to decide who the community "needs" to turn against.

>>3594
Look you haven't committed any crime but you need to remember you are on an imageboard and imageboards love their autism. A >100k word fanfic where glimmer is BTFO'd is some powerful 'tismry. Sperging out when people aren't interested in your work just adds fuel to the fire. My advice is to delete the thread and don't try to promote your work on imageboards.

What if Glimmernigel is secretly Soygon?

>>3594
>Also, can you let me know why you feel the need to turn this fanfic-discussing thread into a childish IdPol shouting match

We're just telling you to fuck off. Also >this thread? No, >the last five threads you made entirely for the purpose of self promotion on the basis of politics.

>where you identify as the leaders and protectors and inquisitors of the alt-right and proceed to identify me as an "enemy of the alt-right" who must be "punished" through being called bad names on the board

The persecution complex is strong in this one. Being called a glimmernigger and a faggot is not special to you unless you make it so. Which clearly you did. You're the one who thinks mockery = idpol, who wrote an entire fanfic that was focused solely on a debate with an idpol commie. You started that discussion by promoting it on your first thread. Nobody made you into a martyr, you put yourself on a cross and then cried "father, why have you forsaken me?" While the rest of us are pointing and making fun of the self-important redditor shitting up multiple threads with his presence.

>on the board you could be using to dig up dirt on liberal Senators and other liberal politicians instead?

Q Anon thread, Syria thread, Random News, and so on and so forth. If you want regular news on this stuff just get the brushup from Awoo. If you want raids theelre was a thread about that. If you want political espionage that's not my area of expertise and you can't expect everyone to engage in something so risky and potentially criminal when we already know Hollywood and the DNC are full of pedos for a fact. Giving your social media a quick combing is all these people did for you to openly and liberally smear yourself all over the walls. You're acting like we hacked your IP address, sent you pizzas and spread a rumor that you groom traps in your goddamn basement.

>there's a pretty big difference in post quality when it comes to the people offering feedback and advice on improving ny craft, and the wannabe- Comissar infiltrators trying to pretend they're not just alt-right, but also people "alt-right" enough to decide who the community "needs" to turn against.

In other words there's a difference between one group of people who fruitlessly explain to you basic story structure, and trolls. Well no shit, Sherlock. And "trying to pretend they're not just alt-right, but also people "alt-right" enough to decide who the community "needs" to turn against"? Are you fucking retarded? Yes, we ARE alt-right. We all are part of the anti-neocon right wing who openly discuss issues of racial and sexual biological differences where the mainstream right does not, and reject notions of the multiculty melting pot. That's all it takes to be branded alt-right. Whether we're ancap, mutualist, monarchist or NatSoc, we all fit this definition by shared beliefs in the aforementioned fields. Nobody here is DENYING BEING ALT-RIGHT unless you are trying to apply the term more narrowly to different factions among us. What part of anything stated in ANY of these threads is """""wannabe-Commisar"""""? What pretending have you seen from anyone about anything? And what is this shit about needing anything? You mean getting sick of your sub-/sp/-quality posts taking up half this fucking imageboard and saying yyou should fuck off? Is that too authoritarian for you? THEN LEAVE!

>>3577
>How would I improve?
You don't. Or, to be more precise, you won't.
I offered you advice in your previous threads, pointed you in the right directions to improve yourself, yet you failed to take any initiative beyond obeying directions, making it abundantly clear that you're here for instructions, and not improvement. Validation, and not accomplishment. Attention, and not quality. This observation became firmly cemented into the domain of fact, given your chain of replies throughout this thread.
If I were to give you advice, as my inner spoonfeeder is itching to do, you would do nothing but ask me question after question for the sole purpose of having me do the mental heavy lifting for you; to have me, in effect, write the story for you. You will get no such shortcuts from me.

With that in mind, I'd like to shift attention to (You), >>3579. I understand your intentions, believe me, but you should have stopped replying when he posted >>3586. We call it "spoonfeeding," but to really understand the futility of your attempts to help Nigel here, this kind of back-and-forth is also referred to as "Help Vampirism": http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/
Know the signs, direct your efforts appropriately, and you'll never be disappointed when you help others.

As for Nigel, you would do well to quit being such an enormous help vampire, and an attention whore. Do that, drop the bad attitude, and provide me with something that shows a modicum of effort and initiative, and I may consider offering you actual, tangible help, instead of the shitposts and insults that you currently deserve.

>>3595
>sperging out
The crybabies in this thread keep saying I'm acting in this way or that, but I'm not. I'm not "Mad" that they're crying over what my work is. Why would I be? I have no reason to take what they say seriously. Certainly not when it's just leftist projection from crying Glimmer-waifu soyboys mixed with blatantly liberal shame tactics.
If I was being paid to make "Something for everyone", then sure, pissing off a bunch of people would be bad. But pissing off this fandom's vocal (((minority))) (see what I did there?) is something I'd do just by writing an episode where Glimmer isn't shoehorned in and treated like the ultimate expert in everything and blameless ultimate life form. Glimmer is basically just Tomoki from Heaven's Lost Property, mixed with a second-rate Sunset Shimmer knockoff. I have no reason to care what people who want to live the pathetic fantasy he represents say about my work or who they think I am. I know who I am, I know how many lives I've saved in my lifetime, and I know what I'm going to do. They only know what they're going to do tomorrow: masturbate over Glimmer some more, and cry at people who don't like her.

>>3600
>I have no reason to care what people who want to live the pathetic fantasy he represents say about my work or who they think I am

And yet, you remain here, posting thread after thread about it, to universal disdain.

>>3548
But But, Anon... Remember Yakity Yak? Aren't we suposed to encourage shitposting because it is what makes them happy?

>>3599
Why does getting ignored make you so mad? You aren't entitled to my time or attention. Why try and convince him to stop talking to me? Do you hope that I'll validate your childish views on who fiction should be for if I have nobody else to talk to?

Saaaaaaalt.

>>3600
>Glimmer glimmer glimmer
You are absolutely obsessed with the character. You put everything you dislike onto her and use her as the scapegoat for the world's problems. It's gotten to the point where you're more focused on hurting Glimmer in your story than actually writing a good story.

>>3599
Trips proves it. This is the QED on all glimmernigel discussion.

>>3563
>Not Real Communism
I am really getting sick of this shit. Communists use this statement to constantly push their agenda as to give an excuse that every other state failed because it wasn't "real".

Sorry buddy, it was real, it is real, and always will be real. Socialism is Communism. The same as a Nigger, Negro, Colored Person,Black, African-American, and Person of Colored are all one and the same. To say otherwise is a blatant lie.

>>3601
I didn't make this thread to attract raiding leftypol users. I made this thread to attract people who dislike SJWs.
>>3604
Code Brown, everyone! Code Brown! Actually, I forgot what colour was assigned to the "You care too much about X. You are Obsessed!" Shaming Tactic. Does anyone here have the pic with all of them and their colours saved?
>>3602
I think the writers tried to use that episode as a really shit piece of emotional manipulation. You're "Supposed" to feel bad for Pinkie(baldy) and stop criticizing how painfully, livelihood-destroyingly bad a certain pink pony(bald soyboy) is at writing cartoons. I hate how many episodes these incompetent writers have used to pander to Glimmer fans and tell fans of the show how they "Should" feel about this character and that choice and how they "Should" behave.

>>3604
This. I hate Glimmer too but you're clearly just projecting everything you hate onto Glimmer and those who like her - to the point you unironically think everyone shaming you has to be a glimmerfag, a liberal, and an SJW.

>>3606
It must be a (((coincidence))) that the loudmouthed wannabe-commissar telling everyone to stop talking to the one he keeps labelling as a "racist sexist rapist woman-abusing vampire thoughtcriminal" is also a commie and rabid Glimmer fanboy.
Yep. It must be a (((coincidence))), eh?
They lie so clumsily.

>>3609
See this is exactly what we're talking about. I'm the only one who brought up racism and he's clearly not defending communism. He's REBUTTING "not true communism" statements. And again with projecting glimmer onto everything. Is she like a hate-tulpa or something for you?

>>3610
Your mom gay

>>3606
Yes, your straw-man of your opposition tends to do what you want it to do.
Here in reality you could be arguing against their leftist socialism that fails to survive even basic power distribution principles.
This is the part where people say,
>almonds activate

>>3608
>>3604
Okay, time for some myth, mythicized stories founded in the legends of old.
One day, HClegend btfo Glimmernigel on Fimfiction.net or wattpad.net (some legends suggest it could've been archiveofourown.net but the interpretation of whether these tales are more legend or story is a topic of debatabe)
-and then he swore vengeance upon the one who slayed his hopes, dreams and family... (believed to actually have been critique of one of his stories,) by attempting to banish them.
The great bard Silver's spell failed but the die was cast, his enemy hex'd into the realm of invocatus block'ohs.

>>3612
*rolls eyes*
Hclegend, remember that time you harassed me on r/undertale, and then harassed me on r/askoldpeople? Remember how butthurt you got when I made a new blog post on fimfiction explaining why I don't like Starlight Glimmer?
You should have been banned, last time the admins here told you to drop your vendetta against me. Because you never dropped it. I was willing to let the time you and your friends raided this site go, but you are not willing to let the time I disrespected your favourite cartoon horse go. You keep trying to convince people who have no idea who we are that you're worth something and I'm not, because only someone entirely unfamiliar with us could be convinced that this is the case.
You have nothing to offer this site or any discussion on it. You are a plant, here to shitpost and pseud it up about "muh cycles" and mindlessly nay-say at any suggestions and ideas offered to fix the problems facing the west.
Now, getting reminded of that time you were dumb enough to reveal that you were stalking me on reddit and downvoting everything that I posted seems to bother you. So, I will say... Fuck off and take the discord users "Samefagging" for you with you, or I will post an archived link to the r/askoldpeople subreddit post in which you stupidly revealed yourself to everyone present as the world's pettiest stalker.

>>3612
Straw-man: Over Exaggeration of your political opponents argument.

>Real Communism has never at any point been achieved in the real world because it's fundamentally at odds with human nature, the closest anyone has ever come to implementing it is Socialism...

Socialism is Communism is my argument. They are one and the same and has been used from Soviet Union to Cuba.

A rose by any other name is still a rose. That is the point I made with the term Nigger. When it was socially acceptable to call someone by that name and then we changed it to meet the new social standards.

Socialism is just a new term for communism. The fact the term changed doesn't excuse the fact of what it is and modern leftist use it as to excuse the failures of why it failed to claim it wasn't "real" communism as >>3563 made the same exact argument.

It doesn't matter how it was organized as a government from all the countries that implemented it, they all follow the same ideologies and system based on Karl Marx.

>>3614
There's nothing the audience loves to see more than a percieved cop out like,
>but dey're day same gosh darn fangled thang
this kind of inability to counter semantic arguments is exactly the kind of thing that gives me the political edge I need to debate left-wingers.

No wonder why you're over here shielding Silver.

Oh and do you want to join the sargon discord to help me btfo sjaydoubleyas?

because when you talk this

and seperate ideas like this

Do you want to know how i know you're new to the whole forum-posting thing?

>>3613
>So, I will say… Fuck off and take the discord users "Samefagging" for you with you
>samefagging
>on discord
>multiple people samefagging

what drugs are you on?

>>3615
Huh? I think you are replying to the wrong guy. Did you get the ID's wrong and or hit the wrong post number? Not that it is any relevant but I am Far-Right when it comes to politics and much of a conservative. I don't know who the hell Silver is, is someone namefagging that I am not aware of? And then the rest really is gibberish. I am sorry but you aren't making sense other than personal attacks.

Also try to move your window to snap on either the left or the right of the screen and then you will see those ideas actually form what are called "paragraphs". Paragraphs are meant to divide ideas into groups on a page to make it easier for the reader to understand and each usually has a opening and closing sentence that encapsulates that idea and transitions to the next.

You pointed out a logical fallacy towards me when what I stated wasn't and exaggeration as I directly quoted him. So now I will point an actual fallacy. Ad Hominum, a direct personal attack against an opponents character.

>>3606
>I cannot tell the difference between communism and socialism.
They're both shit, but as I said, communism is fundamentally impossible because we don't have the mentality of ants.

>>3618
>Governance vs Economy.

Karl Marx stated, "workers of the world unite." and that "the people shall own the means of production". Just like how Korea calls them democratic, doesn't mean that they are still not Communist or follow Marxism. The difference you try to point out is state power, not economic power.

It is shit for many reasons, from the state becoming aristrocrats (which marx hatted) to human nature wanting to stab another in the back, even if by doing so they just sit back and get their kicks on a free ride. It can never sustain itself economically. Be it the people redistributing wealth (as you try to argue communism) or the state (socialism). It really has become as divided as an argument of Gender vs Sex when they are too the same thing.

>>3619
The difference I see is that Socialism retains the presence of government while Communism lacks it completely, which will never work for obvious reasons because people don't like giving up their hard earned shit and can only be coerced to do so. If I recall, there are actually small communist communities in rural Russia still, but they're quickly dying out because no one wants to live under that system and the kids are moving out as soon as they come of age. Don't quote me on that though, I only vaguely remember it being mentioned on /pol/ and I never followed up on it.

>>3617
>indentation
>new line no space

>single line break
I think you might be the one who needs to learn what paragraph breaks are, you might even learn some different ways to format those ideas.
>two sentence paragraphs
That's enough kool-aid for today.
You shouldn't worry so much about '''paragraphs''' and stick to the 'readability' goal.

>gibberish
Get the dick out of your brain, the only gibberish is your inability to follow a chain of events, this entire thread was about Silver, keep up.
I never implied you straw-manned the discount-kiwi.
That's not the who I meant, thanks, maybe not enough of us have snapped our screens to the right or left to get on your level and understand you.

What are you even trying to point out? Socialism is a new term for communism?
If you mean to say that how it's used in contemporary politics by leftists (incorrectly) as an interchangeable word for communism then I might be able to compromise with you and agree.
I can't even parse the rest of your argument because the rest of it looks like you're trying to validate your semantics to other people.
None of anything you say has use to me, the only part that's useful is 'nob an argumend' so I don't see why you want to argue it so hard as to run it against other peoples points. This is the kind of thing that's only useful to point out during the course of an argument for the benefit of everyone being on the same page.

>You pointed out a logical fallacy towards me when what I stated wasn't and exaggeration as I directly quoted him. So now I will point an actual fallacy. Ad Hominum, a direct personal attack against an opponents character.
Thanks dude, sorry I insulted you, that was, as I understand, uncalled for, I apologize. I (personally lol) sure hate those fucking fallacies.
Add my account u/Hclegend and we can, maybe, swap thesis papers later.

>>3620
Not to sound like an ancap but by definition the state is the institution that uses force or the threat thereof to maintain itself and the territory it governs. I can't think of any non-government that follows communism or socialism. The closest I can even get is communalism, wherein West African niggers can demand someone to share any amount of anything for any reason, and if that person says no they're to be robbed of it. It's still a state by the aforementioned definition but it's a situation where civilians can commit violence without consequence.

>>3622
It wasn't always when there were still places to go that were ungoverned for people who didn't want to live under the iron fist of the government, the Earth is 'full' now. Also >ancal, I'm gonna start calling Californians this.

>ancaps
An American town once tried Ancap ideology.
Ancap ideology is supposed to work on a smaller scale, but in the case of the town they literally wanted to remove them-self from the actual state systems the town had operated with for ages.
I wouldn't want to live in under an ideological system.

But if you want to talk politics like a faggot you'll have to go to >>>/sp/ because this is thread derailment and the thread is about Fimfiction and Glimmernigel.

Now, Glimmernigel, what was that about posting an archived link? You wanna go there?
What about the proof linking ''me'' to a glimmer shitpost raid? Don't you have fallout 4 mods to make??

>>3624
I'm so sorry Anon, I hope you escape that hellhole.

>>3625
I understand changing to or creating a new thread but moving to /sp/ to talk politics? Seems odd.

I will stop though.

>>3594
I'm glad you appreciate my suggestions, and I legitimately hope that you improve. On the other hand, >pic related https://mlpol.net/qa/res/2631.html should give you an adequate idea of how long I've been trying to get through to you. I accede that I have been insufferable at times, and admit that my receptivity to your material and presentation directly correlates to your receptivity to mine. One of Jordan Peterson's 'rules' is "Assume the person talking to you has something important to teach" (paraphrased). When you adopt this attitude, I have no issue with you, but when you act like a prick,... well likewise.
If you think this is bad, you should see my (you)'s in the Rick and Morty thread
I'm taking the opportunity to emphasize this because I rather enjoyed the last couple days, but then I spend just one day away from the board, and you're off to the races again. Do you really not see how sperging out and baselessly accusing people of shit because they're not responding how you think they should is counter-productive?
>>3607
No, but you did make this thread to attract attention. Guess what? You got it, and everything that comes with it. What makes me sad is that you don't realize you're shooting yourself in the foot, and so you keep doing it. I reiterate, everyone is an asshole and it would do you a service to realize it.

>>3628
I would really prefer that you stop being disingenuous.
The criers in this thread don't really have a right to play the victim if I have to openly say "I'll only listen to what you have to say if it's worth something" to get them to either say something worth something or have meltdowns due to their inability to do so.
When someone in this thread gave me feedback, I responded well to it, while ignoring the worthless Leddit "bawww is so cwingey! I identify u as a spergistic and so do my friends!" mouth confusion.

>>3621

I don't mind having discussion and perhaps I do have some issues in articulating my exact point at times. Though it would be better to ask to clarify than to demean your opponent. So thank you for understanding that.

I don't know exactly what term came first, communism or socialism, if I recall correctly Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto was inspired by Utopia which coined Socialism, but don't take my word on that I am not 100% on it. However, in these days both point back at Karl Marx as both still use his book as doctrine. The term, at least in modern times, have always been synonymous with another albeit some differences, though arguing them would be like comparing apples to apples, seriously! Take the sweet apple Honey Crisp and compare it to a very tart Granny Smith. Both very different but the same as they are both apples. Comparison can even be made with Baptist vs Catholic, vastly difference but follow one doctrine, the Bible. I think of Communism as the all encapsuling body of the ideology since that is the word used in the Manifesto. But like taboo words of yesteryear, eg. Nigger. Socialism has replaced it to make it more appealing.

The point I was trying to get across is due to the synonymous nature of the words Communism and Socialism, in that they follow the same doctrine, many who support communism will state that it was never "truly" practiced and defend it as being "pure" while making the claim that all other countries, Cuba, Soviet Union, N. Korea, etc., were merely posers. In turn they confirm "Well, because it was never really practiced you can't take this as an example why it failed and communism can still work if it were really practiced." It is why when I saw the same argument it was, worrysome, to say the least.

Oh, and by the way, I never paid attention to the "artists" name. I just saw hubris.

>>3592
>complains about people wasting time on internet drama instead of focusing on super srs stuff
>starts two threads about his pony fanfiction

Nigel, I'm almost hesitant to poke this particular bear any further, but frankly the level of disconnection from reality you've exhibited in this thread is literally CWC tier. As far as I've been able to discern, your honest to God interpretation of what's going on here is that some guy who once made fun of you on FiMfiction followed you to /mlpol/, took the time to establish an identity as Vril anon, brought along an entire army of doppelganger shitposters to "samefag," all with the apparent intention of sabotaging the community's opinion of some cringy fanfiction you wrote. And the Glimmerniggers! Oh God, the Glimmerniggers, they're everywhere! Your narcissistic, ridiculous assumption that there is some secret army of Starlight Glimmer fans hiding in the shadows on this site, just waiting to shit on your work, not because it's bad, but simply because you made fun of their favorite pony, is so over the top autistic it defies categorization. Like I'm pretty sure doctors are going to have to create a whole new spectrum just so they have somewhere to classify your autism.

For your own good, let me make just one (probably futile) effort to explain in plain English what is actually happening here. You started two, not one but two, threads to fish for compliments on your horrendous, amateurishly-written fanfiction about your God-awful Mary Sue OC BTFOing an imaginary pony you hate in an imaginary debate in which you control the actions of all characters, thus rendering the argument completely pointless and an absolute bore to read. Unsurprisngly, no one was even remotely interested. You were told to fuck off. Instead of taking the hint, you kept arguing with people, reverting to your usual rants about Glimmer and calling everyone Commissars or whatever the living fuck. People are now shitting all over your threads and making fun of you because you keep taking the bait and it's hilarious. That is literally the extent of what's going on here.

>What is a lolcow? A "cow" that you "milk" "lols" from.
Once again displaying the traits of your Rainman-tier autism, you have demonstrated that you understand the meaning of words but fail to grasp the inherent concept behind them. A "lolcow" is someone that continuously dispenses lols. No matter how many times you bait them, they always respond predictably with over the top reactions that can be milked for lols. They never learn lessons. They just keep repeating the same behavior that made them a target in the first place, getting the same kind of shit for it, and responding with the same over the top levels of rage and indignation. As an example I invite you to reread your own posts in this thread.

>Starlight Glimmer
I just want to say once more for emphasis that your fixation on this character is both hilarious and unsettling. I'm not a fan of her either, but I can't even imagine getting this triggered by a fucking cartoon pony. It's honestly like that South Park episode where Al Gore is going around trying to convince everyone that Manbearpig is a serious threat. Please, for your own good, get this through your head: there are no Glimmerniggers. There never were any Glimmerniggers. I have been here as long as you have, and I can tell you that this board's opinion of Glimmer overall trends negative, and basically runs the gamut from "meh, she's okay" to "I don't much care for her." People only post her excessively when they want to troll you. I suggest you do some more reading on lolcows.

Please Nigel, for your own good: let it go. Stop responding to bait, stop making threads to shill your writing projects, stop sperging about Glimmer. Please. You really don't want to go down this road.

>>3620
As I mentioned here, >>3631 I am not 100% where the term was first coined, however the ideology and the word in itself both point back to Karl Marx. From there, it spun into all sorts of different methods of trying to enact it. One reason it is important to define your terms is because semantics is always a thing.

It is an interesting perspective of how you look at it in that light with the governments role in trying to enact Karl Marx's ideology. Though equally funny in he context there of, with out government it is anarchy and mob rule. Besides, who is going to give up their shit and enforce that others do to "share the wealth" so you have to have some governance. And this is why seeing your definition makes me laugh even louder as communism will never work and always will be "socialism". Just one more feather in the communism always fails cap.

>>3633
Like all ideologues, Marx was an idiot who thought he could make literally every single person believe the same thing and act the same way and ironically to never ever question it. Which is why Communism will never work and never has before or never will happen, which was my point, Communism as he outlined it is literally impossible, and what people call Communism is just Socialism, which, being based on Communism, makes it only marginally more possible because it's easier for a government to coerce the population into it. I feel like you've taken what I said and somehow thought I was in favour of it and not just saying it's never actually happened because it's a simple objective fact that it hasn't.

>>3632
When will you wannabe-Commissars notice that I just stop reading your posts when you mention CWC for the same reason I stop reading Liberal posts when they say Trump is Russian? I have done nothing wrong, unless pissing off the Glimmy Brigade and making them hate me more than they did last time I ruined their raid on this site counts.
You have to keep mentioning Russia- I mean Hitler- I mean CWC to try and form a connection between me and this guy. Because a connection just isn't there. You have to keep labelling me with these bad words like Racist and Sexist- I mean Egotistical and Vampiric because at the end of the day, you're still crying libtards who want criticism of your ideas and heroes censored.
I know CWC is supposedly one of the few people on the planet arguably more delusional and entitled than you, but there are pedophiles and rapists who get away with it. The people who destroyed the family got away with it. Uncontrolled immigration is still happening. And what are you doing with your free time? Acting like this is just another subreddit for cringers, scraping the bottom of the barrel to find losers to cringe at, even though they'd find the ultimate cringe if they looked in a mirror.
Yeah, the future of the western world is in SUCH good hands. That is what we're here to discuss, when not posting porn and greentext and masturbating together to keep Reddit out, yes?

>>3634
No, I didn't think that you were in support of it. Just dangerous thinking as it is the same sort of an argument that the left make."Because they aren't the same words, they aren't the same."

However you definded it now as how you see it diffrently and why. Socialism is diffrent that how the left define it, same as communism.

Something you stated, I dont know why, but when you said about all acting the same and thinking the same reminded me of this one movie or show I watched as a kid. Something about a cd or game that waz mind controling all the kids and the next day at school everyone is wearing all blue like some cult. I am beginning to think that it might have been something from Disney. But yeah, communism isn't too far off from being a cult.

>>3635
>racist and sexi- I mean egotistical and vampiric
Again you're pretending that being up your own ass and begging for validation are just buzzwords, even when it's laid out in front of you. The fact you're trying so hard to draw the most tenuous parallels to SJWs when according to you we're all communiat glimmerniggers who hate the right is absurd. Give us one singular piece of evidence that anyone here is an anti-white SJW and maybe I'll consider you worth listening to.

>>3635
>done nothing wrong
As far as site rules are concerned, technically this is correct (though, one could make an argument that the repeat threads about your fics could constitute shilling to a certain degree).
However, your ostentatious dismissal of proprietary norms on imageboards (read: your lolcow behavior) is an affront to many, who have been here contributing and participating while you have been off writing your fics to later excessively (as in, beyond necessity, reasonability, or mutual respect for anons) promote to an audience that is increasingly dismissive and uninterested. Simply, the more you try and push your fics, the more you will be pushed back against, with emphasis on the fact that you pushed first.
>inb4 I don't respect them
Its evident, and the backlash you're receiving is a consequence - and not an isolated aspect - of that lack of respect.
Nigel, you were doing so well

>>3638
>You were doing so well
I've yet to see this. From the very first post I saw, he was begging for people to go to fimfiction and give him shill-upvotes to counter dose ebin gommyaniss. When people showed at best a lukewarm response here, he resorted to insulting the entire thread as SJWs. From that point on all he ever does is dig himself deeper in the trench of attempting to draw flimsy comparisons between us and SJWs. No apology, no remorse for shitting up page 1 for over a week, and the one post he seems open to critique is then followed up by "well I don't care what you people think."

He's nothing more than a lolcow who's only fun to mock from another place, where he doesn't outright ruin the board culture by taking time and attention from otherwise regular high-quality posters.

>>3639
By 'well', I mean that he almost started listening for a moment

I hope everyone doesn't think all bongs act like Nigel

It's been a long time, Jason.

I'll cut right to the chase. I'll tell you why I'm here:

You see, I've had enough. Everyone has had enough. No more. Of (You). And your fanfics. And the autism. No more self-promotion. No more nothing.

I am here to put a stop to it. You see: Your shitposts are my business. And mine to control. NOT YOURS!

Allow me to clue you in on the plan I've had for a while now.

You see, I went out at night into the streets of England. There I found an Internetcafé and contacted every ponysite and politics board I could find. And you know what I did?

I found each and everyone of them. And I told them.

I have your mugshot. If you see this man: Give him nothing. He deserves nothing. You see, I spread these out. They know you, before (You) even approach.

So you see, Jason. I have all the cards. And you are just going to have to play with whatever hand I deal to (You).

>>3641
I'm getting an inkling that a lot of bongs do, especially ones who wax e-politics like Sargon. But I would never bring myself to hate all bongs; you were our big brother, and while we're not linked by a government, I still see you as our brother.

>>3642
Whether this is real or just a larp, I can't get pic related out of my head

>mfw this thread
Guys, I think we've found something more autistic than us.

>>3643
I like the US. It's got human rights and gun rights, it's got a populace willing to fight antifa, and it's got some nice-sounding accents.
Hey, when are Americans going to try and get Trump to grant amnesty and sanctuary to Tommy Robinson, BTFOing the corrupt UK establishment elites and turning this into an international incident?

>>3648
Last I heard, he served his time and made it out unscathed. I'm happy for him but hopefully that's the end of the problem?

That being said if things get really bad I'd be down for a letter writing campaign to let Robinson into the American pre-ethnostate

>>3647
"Every day this small group of detractors would post up to 12 comments in the debate, often retreading old ground and reiterating the same complaints, with [author] proclaiming his literary and moral superiority."

>>3573
Well, you tried, and that should be applauded.
The scene with Silver and the Dragon was a joke scene. You did notice that the dumbest anime bullshit happened entirely within the Dragon mare's head, right? Right? Riiiiiiight?

Y'all'd probably have a better understanding of this story if you read all of it, instead of this one chapter. You'd know what Silver's Extreme Gear is, for example.

Should I have made it more obvious that Silver was bluffing when he claimed he's invincible when he's angry? Was the implication that he wouldn't have lost a fight in an earlier chapter if he actually had this ability not enough? Oh, right, I forgot. You also skipped the chapter where he loses a fight and gets out of dying right there by bluffing, so you didn't recognize that as a consistent character trait. Should I make my work simple enough for a whiny Glimmer fanboy who feels entitled to skip chapters and still understand everything to understand?

I get that you aren't playing with a full deck, in more ways than one, but tell me you don't think Naruto invented the idea of Shadow Clones. Come on, even World Of Warcraft had those. Was namedropping Mirror Image not enough?

Honestly, the only remotely reasonable complaint here was that Twilight, someone the Dragon Mare didn't know, didn't really say or do anything inside an anime battle that happened entirely in that Dragon Mare's head. Because sure. What even is foreshadowing?

>>3649
Unfortunately, the UK lacks Double Jeopardy laws, so the govt is trying to arrest him again. For the same non-crime. At this rate, they should really just put the Second Legal Defense Fund into spiriting him, his wife, and his family out of the country and into a country not ruled by Muslim Theocrats.

>>3652
but the joke wasn't good lol you killed it
you killed your own joke

https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/165646.html

threadly reminder that this epic comes in 2 volumes
a feast of autism and lolcow milk

>>3655
i like this edit, this is some peak political history and event knowledge

>>3652
Hi Nigel, I'm the anon who's shitting on you in the other thread. Figured I'd pop on over to this one and see what it felt like to shit on you here.

>The scene with Silver and the Dragon was a joke scene. You did notice that the dumbest anime bullshit happened entirely within the Dragon mare's head, right? Right? Riiiiiiight?
See, the problem with this, Nigel, is that it's impossible to tell what's supposed to be a joke scene and what isn't, because you completely lack the ability to read or write any level of irony. Your OC is so overpowered and ridiculous it's almost impossible to filter out which ridiculous things are unintentional because you can't tell the difference.

Also, the fight scene with the dragon-horse-thing is really not so much a joke as it is a pathetic, completely transparent platform for your faggot OC to show off his rad ninja skills in front of Twilight. Then he just sort of casually drops it into the conversation that this apparently super-powered unbeatable chimera is a creature that he found and, naturally, trained himself. He did this, of course, in between running his multi-million dollar company, fighting monsters in other dimensions, performing impossible feats of magic, playing bass for Metallica, and whatever the fuck else this preposterous character does.

>Should I have made it more obvious that Silver was bluffing when he claimed he's invincible when he's angry? Was the implication that he wouldn't have lost a fight in an earlier chapter if he actually had this ability not enough? Oh, right, I forgot. You also skipped the chapter where he loses a fight and gets out of dying right there by bluffing, so you didn't recognize that as a consistent character trait. Should I make my work simple enough for a whiny Glimmer fanboy who feels entitled to skip chapters and still understand everything to understand?

Even after I've taken the time to slog my way through most of your 32k+ word epic (which is only Chapter 6 of another work that is only God knows how long) and have grown intimately familiar with your massive ego, it seems I can still be amazed by just how bottomless the depths of your hubris really are. This one is just so packed with juicy Nigel-isms that I'd like to look at each item one at a time.

>Should I have made it more obvious that Silver was bluffing when he claimed he's invincible when he's angry?
Yes. You should have, because as I stated earlier, you are completely incapable of being ironic and you give your character so many stupid powers it's hard to imagine you would allow him to NOT be invincible.

>Was the implication that he wouldn't have lost a fight in an earlier chapter if he actually had this ability not enough?
Get this through your head. Your story is long, convoluted, preposterously verbose, poorly constructed, poorly planned, poorly executed. Anyone willing to take time out of their day to slog through this dreck deserves a medal, but you've got the balls to start berating people for not having read more of it?

>Oh, right, I forgot. You also skipped the chapter where he loses a fight and gets out of dying right there by bluffing, so you didn't recognize that as a consistent character trait.
Nobody fucking cares, Nigel. Your character is terrible and everyone hates him.

>Should I make my work simple enough for a whiny Glimmer fanboy who feels entitled to skip chapters and still understand everything to understand?
"Feels entitled to skip chapters?" "FEELS ENTITLED TO SKIP CHAPTERS?!?" Jesus fucking Christ, unironically kill yourself. Oh, wait, you don't understand irony. FUCKING KILL YOURSELF.

Listen, you arrogant pile of dogshit. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is under any obligation to read any of this. That any of us have been willing to take FIVE MINUTES to read even ANY of this river of steaming liquid feces that you call a fanfiction is something you should be on your knees praising Allah for.

Your writing is terrible. Your OC is the most unlikable, overpowered, ridiculous, laughable unintentional parody of himself I have ever encountered anywhere. This is quite literally the worst thing I have ever read, anywhere, and I've read like three of the Harry Potter books.

You come to this site, post TWO THREADS begging us to read this self-aggrandizing pile of steaming baby vomit, then you have the nerve to act like you're doing us a favor by letting us read it? Like we need to really read the entire work just to be able to understand the subtle nuances of your creative genius? Fuck. You.

Listen, Nigel. This isn't a critique anymore. You don't deserve a critique. This is an intervention. You need to hear this:

YOU. CAN'T. WRITE. Your plot is clumsily structured and confusing. Your dialogue is awful. You don't even remotely understand the characters you're writing about. Right at this moment, there are 7 year old girls acting out simplistic stories using plastic MLP toys who are producing better stories with better characterizations than anything you've ever written in your life.

And for the last time: YOUR OC IS FUCKING GARBAGE. Silver Star is the stupidest, most overpowered, obnoxious, bland, cringey brony OC that has ever been conceived, and frankly that's saying a lot.

Stop writing forever, Nigel. Chop your fucking hands off so you won't be tempted to do it. Cut your tongue out so you won't be able to dictate stories to a computer that doesn't know any better. Jump off a bridge when you're done just to be on the safe side.

You are a terrible writer, Nigel. It has become glaringly apparent that you will never improve, so stop trying. You will never be good at this, ever.

>>3652
Oh shit, there's stuff in here that I missed.

>Y'all'd probably have a better understanding of this story if you read all of it, instead of this one chapter. You'd know what Silver's Extreme Gear is, for example.
I have no idea what Silver's "Extreme Gear" is, however it does not even remotely surprise me that this is a thing he would have.

>What even is foreshadowing?
That is just one of many hundreds of questions about the subtleties of the writer's craft that you should be asking yourself.

You know what? I haven't read all of your work. Originally, I just wanted to shitpost a little and milk you like the lolcow you are. But I've changed my mind. I'm fascinated now. I'm not just going to deconstruct chapter 6. I am going to read EVERY FUCKING WORD of this shit you wrote and deconstruct EVERY FUCKING CHAPTER, because I want to understand. It's like you're not even human, you're some kind of genetic oddity, like the Elephant Man. You deserve to be studied. Hell, you deserve to have a crack team of researchers observing you round the clock, but that's sadly a little beyond my means to arrange. But I want to understand. And one day, I will.

>>3658
Shit's gettin' REAL now.

>>3658
>>3657

>Your writing is terrible. Your OC is the most unlikable, overpowered, ridiculous, laughable unintentional parody of himself I have ever encountered anywhere. This is quite literally the worst thing I have ever read, anywhere, and I've read like three of the Harry Potter books.
>Listen, Nigel. This isn't a critique anymore. You don't deserve a critique. This is an intervention.
>YOU. CAN'T. WRITE.
>And for the last time: YOUR OC IS FUCKING GARBAGE.
>Stop writing forever, Nigel. Chop your fucking hands off so you won't be tempted to do it.
>I have no idea what Silver's "Extreme Gear" is, however it does not even remotely surprise me that this is a thing he would have.
>But I've changed my mind. I'm fascinated now. I'm not just going to deconstruct chapter 6. I am going to read EVERY FUCKING WORD of this shit you wrote and deconstruct EVERY FUCKING CHAPTER,
>It's like you're not even human, you're some kind of genetic oddity, like the Elephant Man.

These threads must have had one of the most groundbreaking turns i have witness since i started browsing chan sites in 2008. We are witnessing history here. I hope you are happy Nigel. you better be with the demons you have summoned. This guy is going to nail you to a cross and make a travesty out of You. At Last, You are famous now, this will attract more people to you than ever.

This is your personal coronation. Enjoy it.

>>3657
>This is quite literally the worst thing I have ever read, anywhere, and I've read like three of the Harry Potter books.
Hehe, kek
Nigel, I really hope you don't kill yourself however I do think you should stop posting here for your own sake. It is clear that no one here wants to read your stories since no one has defended you. So why do you bother posting here?
I tried reading the first chapter of the story you linked but lost intrest in it quite fast.
Although I don't want to become a victim for a potential help-vampire, I do think that you could be good writer. I base that on the fact you have stayed dedicated on a project, such as you story, for so long.
So I will give you advice from the little I read in your story. I skipped a lot and read through it with high-speed so I probably missed something.
However my critism concerns a specific scene were Silver's secatary tells him that his coffee is ready (What coffee really, Nigel?). They start talking about how Silver has ben reading for sventeen hours in a one go without breaks. Here is the thing though. Yes, establishing a character's trait like this is okay I guess. But I wouldn't write it like that. If I were to tell my readers: "This character is smart", I would have showed my readers a problem first and then let my chracter solve it.
Also, reads books, meh. Nothing specifc just books.

>>3660
This so much. Unironically, without a shred of exaggeration, this whole travesty that is Nigel's life has just left me with so many keks just spilling out of him in real time that I can't help but feel like I'm finally part of the chan culture that I abandoned in the 2010s, all over again.

I wish that I could bottle up moments like this and keep them forever.

>>3658
>Extreme Gear

Of course, so on top of being a Prodigy, a genius, a scientist, a magician, the strongest fighter, the richest business-owner, from another universe, aware of and involved in all doomed timelines like a Time player in Homestuck, AND a damn ninja, he also happens to have a high-tech surfboard. There's no way this is real, the spaghetti is just spilling from his pockets with every piece of trivia we get.

>>3663
Gonna be honest: I've made two OCs that have the word "Silver" in their names, and I'd like to say they're leagues better than Silver Star.

>>3664
Oh god you just reminded me about pothead the porcupine - er, "Silver the Hedgehog."

Also I usually arpee-colon-three with on-the-spot characters made in the moment, and only a couple have silver in their names. Usually they turn out to be physically weak but with some kind of alternative form of strength such as tactical acumen or a thing for tech. I think that's well enough balanced for the purpose of role playing, maybe not for novel-length fics but miles above Silver Star for sure.

>>3665
And now you've reminded me of that abortion of a Sonic the Hedgehog game. Wonderful.

It's also funny that you say that, because the one I made first was a unicorn with weaker-than-average combat magic but an affinity for heavy armor.

>>3666
Sounds like a perfectly fine character, considering the MMO trifecta of Tank, DPS, and White Mage. In fact, having a character who is set up in that manner is actually a great idea if you want to create a good narrative of multiple characters meeting and befriending each other

>>3667
Exactly. Plus I've always been a fan of a character's class or abilities going against the grain of their race's typical vocation.

>>3668
well Rara is also against the typical mage's vocation. Her magic is simply a tool to assist in more accurate sewing. But yeah, I get the idea.

>>3669
I suppose that would also be "against the grain".

>>3664
>>3665
https://youtu.be/mNIQ9n-pdb0
This video may be an analysis video but I think it's great for those who are seeking to create a hero or villain character of some kind. I like this whole series of videos, as it gives a lot of insight you probably never would get from reading Homestuck for the first time.

>>3672
>Homesuck in the preview thumb
I'll pass.

>>3673
No no no, wait. It's actually good. It goes in some serious depth about mythology, archetypes, personality, and categorization, as well as symolism in general which isn't just littered throughout Homestuck, it's fucking flooded Homestuck. Like...if you opened a door the sheer force of its symbolism would probably force you out of it.

>>3675
>wall of text covering half the third panel
>replacing communism/socialism with a new name but not monarchy with diarchy or any other term
>black text that is sometimes hard to read

Try again, that's a trash meme.

>>3676

the original meme is trash, that why it must be as trashy as the other one and also covered in text on purpose and is made to trigger lefties. and if it works with you then it will works wonders on them.

>>3677
Eh. I prefer either actual debates or more easily digested memes for the sake of besting the left. Pic related.

>>3678

different thing but whatever.

>>3679
I like me some direct, simple nationalist memes like that. Just not a fan of the kind of stuff that either gets overly up-its-own-ass, long-winded, or screechy. I like the "god forgives no traitor" kind of meme over the edgy or debate-focused memes.

>>3680

that is ok, me too. but as i said, the other meme is like that on purpose.

I been wondering is Nigel's story actually a parody it has the comedy tag is he parodying the opwered oc trope.
If that's what your doing, then you are doing it wrong. It is like one punch man if you are going to have a op oc, then use this character to subvert tropes around him. If it is comedy your aiming for, then do something unexpected with the character. There are many other fanfiction stories with mary-sues and here is the crux. You think that you are parodizing these stories while you are actually adding to them. Because reading your story, is as insufferable as reading the real thing. There are no jokes in your stories becauee I can't tell what is a joke and what isn't.
For example in my last post I mentioned a part in your story were your oc says that he has been reading for seventeen hours.
I don't know if this is a joke or not for several reasons. First is that it is almost possible to achive consider one is awake each day for like fithteen hours for some even more. So it might not be out of this world to train yourself to be capable of doing this. If you had instead increased the time for his reading to like three whole days or a week, then I would have known that it was joke. Since it is impossible, to do that.
The other reason is that everything is exaggrated so nothing stands out.
Basicly what you should have done with this character is to play off with his absurd character traits. Like since he probably has the biggest dong in all of equestria, have him be afraid of pants with zippers or something.

Why are the butthurt fimfic police alternating between this thread on the topic and the other one? And why did they bump the other thread to the front page? How do the redditors benefit from having two threads about this on the front page at the same time?

Huh, its almost like shitting up the board with multiple threads shilling the same shitty fic has unintended consequences you poor thing

>>3684
"Consequences"?
What is it with leftists and seeing "Consequences" as an inherently bad thing enemies must face for offending and upsetting the perpetually offended?

>>3685

Pulling your soiled diaper off and flailing it around like a mace of autism wont make you win an argument outside of your own cranium. The real sad thing is that not only your fic is 110% completely unironic, but that you also think you have talent and good humor. I dare you to put screencaps of these threads onto your good boy point wall on Deviant Art, like you did with your leddit shit.

This abomination of a chad meme tells people more about (((you ))) than you think. It's an analogy to your abyssmal writing and atrocious personality.

>>3686
>I dare you to put screencaps of these threads onto your good boy point wall on Deviant Art, like you did with your leddit shit.
This, and don't be a faggot: include King Battlebrit's original story and Glim Glam's deconstruction of your work.

Fixed

>>3685
>ledditor completely bastardizes the original comedic virgin/chad meme
>After consumption the plebbit regurgitates it as unironic self praise for himself
>He does it all with no sense of comedy accompanied with his standard verbal vomit.
Yet another shining example of your massive unsatable love of your own cock. Well nobody else will give you praise so may as well go down on your own ego right? I don't think I've ever seen the chad meme this covered in walls of text, it's truly a real example of prime lolcow.

>>3679
This. If you didn't want to make front page so damn much, you shouldn't have shilled this fucking hard for your shit fanfic. You can't stop this. You could have prevented it, but you can no longer stop it.

>>3685
>deplatforming for being right
>deplatforming

Nigger, you came here, with the intention of advertising, you got shit-talked to an extent you couldn't handle, and you deleted your own goddamn fanfiction off the site. If you stopped shilling, if you stopped spending thread after thread ignoring all criticism to defend your fiction like you think liking it is a moral imperative, then none of this would have happened. Hell, even after the other thread first started, you could have just dropped off the face of the earth and most of the shit-talk would be over in a few days. MAYBE weeks.

>Yeah, I have an OC. He's a pretty cool unicorn guy
Definitely my favorite

>>3688
Oh yeah, don't forget this. I'm 99% sure it's Nigel, he mentioned Pokémon and shit in his fimfic profile.
https://mlpol.net/vx/res/66436.html

>>3693
I remember that thread, and I agree it reeks of Nigel.
He never rated my metapod trainer ;_;

A screencap of Nigels ludicrous DA gallery, which he runs under the same name as his fimfic account.

Gives you a nice idea about his visuals arts skill and what he considers worthy of being published. Includes "spritework" for his anticipated Pokemon romhack (which he thinks falls under fair use. Ask Pokemon Uranium for more on that.)

If Nigels storytelling and this botched pixelart is any indication, we can be thankful to Nintendo this likely wont be on the internet for longer than a few weeks.

>>3695

http://archive.fo/IZAWn

Archive link

>>3695
>Sonic character creator
Holy shit that's just sad. Nigel what is your malfunction??? Not even using Furry Doll Maker which at least looks SOMEWHAT presentable?

>>3695
HOLY SHIT, IS THAT A JOHNNY TEST OC I SEE!?

>>3698
It fucking is, holy shit.

>>3695
*chuckles*
>>3698
>>3699
>they didn't click it
So are y'all pretending to be retarded, or are you just unfamiliar with Persona? Because some ledditbabby did this a while back on /vp/, when he got so butthurt over my Zekkonian Pokemon he decided to post my "Buff Akira" art to try and use that against me.

When you get to my age, you'll look back on these days and cringe.

>>3691
If I was pulling my fanfiction from Fimfic.net, I would have surely also deleted it from fanfic.net, right?
Rabid Glimmer fans mobbed me, reported me, sucked Eldorado's cock, and got me banned. While also getting that fic deleted. That's all.
Tell me, are my other fics also up?

>>3701
>fanfic.net
You have one of those? Didn't know you were that low. Even for fimfic that's sad.

>Eldorado
Literally who

>got me banned
Don't worry sugar, you'll always have Writing.com, right? ;))))))

>are my other fics also up?
Looked like you removed your fimfic account entirely, did you not do that?

>>3700
>>they didn't click it
Oh I clicked it, and it's just as pathetic as it looks.

>some ledditbaby did this
Uh, you uploaded it. You wouldn't upload art that isn't yours, would you? ,':)

>when you get to my age, you'll look back on these days and cringe
I think we're all past sixteen, and I don't need to look back to cringe. That's what your DA is for.

Wondered who inspires him the most in this wonderful website of artistic talent, and I found this absolute unit. They take photos of their computer screens and the pictures are just profile shots followed by walls of text with almost no organization whatsoever.

Some extra "special" art from Nigel.

I had an idea.
What if I went out and found for you someone who actually was all those Doubleplus Ungood Badwords you kept trying to associate with me, only more?
A con-artist who makes actual fucking money off his genuine cult, which doubles as a tax scam?
A morbidly obese and mentally ill "Autodidact" who attracts impressionable young children into his reddit-esque cult of circlejerkery through the magic of Harry Potter and MLP fanfiction, and scares donations out of them through logically-unsound ravings of impending doom and literally-magical divinely-enhanced AI Singularities?
I'm talking about Elizer Yudowsky, founder of LessWrong and writer of Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.

>>3706
Nah. We have you, once you get tired of this site and move on perhaps, but for now we're going to suck your mantits until they have no more meme milk you sad fucking lolcow.

>>3707
Ew, gay.

>>3706
Isn't Elizer an AI theorist? Like, a scientist who could make some progress toward harnessing AI safely?

Who the fuck are you compared to a literal theoretical computer scientist?

>>3708
Whelp, mantits confirmed then.

>>3707
But in all seriousness, doesn't the idea intrigue you? What if, instead of trying to pretend someone with Bad Cartoon Opinions is le cringiest cringe of all, you memed on a genuine cult that actually does things wrong?

>>3711
Your attempts to avoid being beaten are admirable Nigel, but every filly needs to know when she's done wrong. Now come over here you fag.

>>3709
Oh, jesus christ. You rabid Glimmer fanbabbies really are redditors!
If you'd like some tips on how to perfect your "Regular Person" impression, normal people don't have any respect for some blowhard wannabe autodidact who thinks his toaster will turn him into Kirito if he's a good boy and cast him down into hell if he's a bad boy.
"Unsafe AI" is a meme, and if there is a way to create a stable set of absolute and unquestionable moral rules an AI would have to abide by, it won't come from a website of liberal-fascist far-left circlejerkers who openly long for the imaginary pseudo-communist "Two trains full of people will be crashed into each other just so I, a Super Elite, won't be 5 minutes late for my job!" world of their dreams.

>>3713
Go back to redick

>>3713
>redditor
So, not being aware of someone's entire psychological profile when none was presented = reddit. Gotcha.

>Kirito
I bet you read ALL the saucy SAO fanfiction, mister good-taste-manifest.

>if there is a way to create a stable set of absolute and unquestionable moral rules an AI would have to abide by, it won't come from a website of liberal-fascist far-left circlejerkers who openly long for the imaginary pseudo-communist "Two trains full of people will be crashed into each other just so I, a Super Elite, won't be 5 minutes late for my job!" world of their dreams.
Do you know anything about, well, anything? The train question is nothing but an exercise in moral philosophy. A thought experiment. Sometimes in life, there really are no right answers and for you to pretend that there's no value to exploring theoretical scenarios like that is just arrogant. Also liberal-fascists? You still only have one name and you haven't explained anything. Instead you claim his politics and that he wrote some Harry Potter shit. You didn't cite anything, you didn't give us much of a lead except his name.

Also "pseudo communist?" Are you shitting me? What's communist about hypothetical conundrums? Serious, what the fuck are you talking about?

>"Unsafe AI" is a meme
Opinion discarded, spend five minutes reading the bare basics of AI literature.

Jesus christ the amount of shit you can pack into a single paragraph is just, mind-boggling.

>>3714
I got banned from posting on r/the_donald. Liberals don't like that lol

>>3715
Heh, yeah. Why do you think he's a 'professional writer?'

Fanfic writers are some of the most low IQ subhumans on earth.
Then again, this site and its users exist.

>>3716
>liberals
>r/the_donald
So, why were you posting to a reddit about right-wing politics that you yourself freely associate with leftists? Is it because you agree with them and their values despite proclaiming them to be liberals?

@168792
b8/10

>>3718
Wait I just noticed your name has an em-
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/8226096/KyrosDroztamyr

Oh

Oh boy

>>3706
>Doubleplus
>Ungood
lol hey mom I referenced 1984 out of context again!

See, Nigel, this is why everyone compares you to CWC. You reference things you clearly don't understand in situations where those references don't even remotely apply, and you think it makes you sound intelligent. It's the same as when you start calling people SJWs or Commissars for not liking your fanfiction. Chris-chan does the same thing, constantly.

>A con-artist who makes actual fucking money off his genuine cult, which doubles as a tax scam?
>A morbidly obese and mentally ill "Autodidact" who attracts impressionable young children into his reddit-esque cult of circlejerkery through the magic of Harry Potter and MLP fanfiction, and scares donations out of them through logically-unsound ravings of impending doom and literally-magical divinely-enhanced AI Singularities?

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

>I'm talking about Elizer Yudowsky, founder of LessWrong and writer of Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality

Oh, well that clears it up. Literally who?

>>3711
>But in all seriousness, doesn't the idea intrigue you? What if, instead of trying to pretend someone with Bad Cartoon Opinions is le cringiest cringe of all, you memed on a genuine cult that actually does things wrong?
No, we don't care about whoever that guy is. You're our resident lolcow, not him.

>>3713
>all that shit you wrote
I'll say it again, what the actual fuck are you talking about?

>>3716
Stop feeding the trolls and they will go away.

>>3724
Ban the raiders and they will stop trying to infiltrate this site and subvert it.
Remember, these people own the MLP subreddits, tumblr, MLP forums, and Fimfic. These people can freely use Deviantart and the Discord servers where they plan their cross-site raids.
Does this incestuous clique belong on this website, where they outnumber the users and mods?
Should everyone just give up on /mlpol/ if it's going to end up like 4/mlp/, where vocal minorities of crying redditors can distract us from real issues and actual discussion by crying about someone with Bad Cartoon Opinions like "He doesn't like Poochie"?

>>3706
>>3725

you are not going to weasel your way out of this by ratting out some random faggot elsewhere Nigel. Go make a thread about this faggot on /sp/ and shovel a mountain of shit there, maybe some people will take interest. These threads are now our Designated Nigel shitting street. You dont get to tell people what they laugh at, thats not how lolcow farming works. You already ruined your personal and writers reputation. I dare you not to go full "You are the shitheads! Every last one of you" on us. You will regret that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQlpGFWNgE

>>3722
That character really has layers.

There's something I've been meaning to ask.
I attracted the attention of the Glimmer Raiders by not liking her, on Fimfic.
And when I wrote a fic where my OC kicked her ass, they got so mad, they sucked mod cock to get me banned.
So... Why continue it here? You've won, by purging another thoughtcriminal from "Your" fanfiction website. Why carry this liberal angry mob mentality with you across multiple sites?
There are political parties that want white people exterminated. There are senators who'll serve those parties for cash. And you're here, shamemobbing me and calling me the worst person in the world because I voluntarily donated free labour to create a product you don't like.
What do you hope to achieve with this, and what do you hope to achieve in life?

>>3729
Eh, I'll entertain your question, Nigel. Can't hurt whether you accept the answer or not either way.

First, most of us really don't have that much of an opinion on Starlight either way. I personally think she was a decent villain, and that they could have handled her better after her redemption.

Second, we don't have a positive opinion of Fimfiction. At all. The majority opinion is that it's essentially pony Reddit with fanfiction: a hugbox where the vast majority of fiction is made just so people can get updoots and participation trophies for their work.

Third, I don't know about everyone else, but I'm just sticking here to /mlpol/ to laugh at these threads and at you.

Fourth, we keep messing with you because you're a lolcow. You refuse to let criticism go, and you keep sperging out about the tiniest bit of hate your (admittedly) shit fanfiction gets. And that means we get to keep milking you for your reactions and we get to keep laughing because of it.

Fifth, we're not liberals. Some of us might be former liberals, but most here right now are different varieties of right-wing nationalist or right-wing libertarian, with the most extreme of these positions being either Neo-Reactionary for authoritarians or Anarcho-Capitalist for libertarians.

>>3729
You attracted attention because your self mastubatory fanfiction is a fat runny turd you enthusiastically call literature. You attracted attention because, despite being told what we think of your turd/literature, you insist that true conservatives would like it simply because it panders to us, and that anyone who hates it must be a liberal. You attracted attention because you are, have, and will continue to ask for it by posting multiple threads fishing for compliments and are shocked to discover that the attention you get is negative, by your own fault no less. You must be so fearful of rejection that you can't fathom that you don't belong in the liberal camp because of your conservative views, and you don't belong in the conservative camp because you're a self absorbed piece of shit who thinks he can do no wrong and writes terrible fanfiction.

That is why you're being bashed, and your neurosis means you'll be an eternal source of entertainment as long as you're here. Maybe you spent long hours typing out your fanfiction, maybe you think you did your best, did your research, put in the effort to make it the best it can be, but your best just isn't good enough, you'll get no participation trophies here, you're entitled to no praise from us just because you spent time on this, you'll earn our respect based only on your own merit, and on this particular project of yours, you have no merit to warrant respect, you deserve no respect based on your response to criticism alone. Your attitude is everything wrong with millennials, are you surprised when you're hated because of the very behaviours displayed by the left?

Well, those are some enlightening responses. Apparently I'm not just a Millennial now, but everything wrong with them.
Would anyone else like to throw more worthless "Because fuck you, also we aren't reddit" platitudes around?
Would anyone else like to project their insecurities and personal failings onto me, while pretending that my responses to the rare pieces of criticism worth a damn were actually quite positive?

>>3732
Kinda figured that would be the response.

Back to milking, then!

>>3733
There you again with that "Milking" talk. Perhaps, next time, you'll call this a "Beatdown", instead of a "Milking session". It won't change what this is, but let's see if I can understand you better.
There seems to be some kind of disconnect between how you see the world and what it is.
In your world, I am the bad guy. Why?
Am I acting reprehensibly by speaking to you in a manner you do not approve of?
Am I acting reprehensibly by having views that differ from yours?
Am I acting reprehensibly by having a hobby you don't like?

>>3729
>>3734
First off I haven't read your story I am only basing this on what others have analyzed and posted from it.
I would not say you are the bad guy. I think the crux of the matter is that Silver Star comes out as the bad guy, and his total lack of compassion and empathy is what makes him the bad guy. Ignoring the apparent length of the story (War and Peace is a long ass fucking book as an example), Silver Stars behavior is what is the most glaring error, especially if you are trying to win people over to his side.

>>3735
Do you think I should make Silver more compassionate and empathetic in future episodes? I was trying to set things up for a "He's a cunt at first but friendship warms his frozen heart and softens him up" character arc.

>>3736
I am not what you would call an avid reader of books or good at writing. So it is hard to know what would be a good continuation to redeem Silver Star. Just the little passage (pic related) that someone posted is for lack of better words, and to say it a bit mildly, a bit evil.
So whether it is best to start from the beginning rewriting, and viewing this as the first draft, as Glim!Glam suggest. Or to continue the story to redeem Silver Star, I don't really know. I think it is easier to rewrite. There have been plenty of examples at least in film and tv, where they have changed tings completely after the pilot was made and they got feedback, so there is nothing wrong in rewriting characters.
If you want to redeem Silver Star, he has a big hill he must climb. You can do the "easy" but cliché way out where he was dreaming or all this happened in an alternative universe and somehow he is sent to the real Equestria whew he wakes up without memories, money, or the knowledge of his own powers. Make him suffer and then naturally learn the right morals.
But what is best I don't know. If you do rewrite you got much of the stories and progressions you want to happen, you just have to lay the story out in a different way. Give Silver Star some weaknesses, make him more compassionate, humble, and generally into a nicer guy. He might even not be able to help anyone, or change anything, but he is trying and the reader will sympathies with him because deep down they know he is right.

But I am just throwing out ideas and they might be dumb ideas that you should not follow. I frankly am not sure what is best to do in a literary work.

>>3737
Nice, that's what I was going for with the whole "Never interrupt me!" bit. I figured it'd be a bit stupid if this frontier-justice hard-nosed semi-hypocritical templar motherfucker suddenly became an absolute paragon of virtue for this one scene, and then went back to someone who needs to become more virtuous when it was over. I always hated generic vanilla protagonists. Especially the kind you see in HiE works. A protagonist should be someone interesting! Someone who learns and grows!
This is going to sound autistic, but I've thought up ways to fix a lot of the dumb shit MLPFIM has done, and I'm going to do those things in my fic, one by one.
Without just undoing the dumb shit, like the fics where Twilight randomly loses her Alicornhood.

The problem with Alicornhood was that it came too early for Twilight, and instead of trying to sell us on the idea that Twilight isn't done and there's still adventures she can go on, it instead chose to try and sell us on the idea that Twilight is Complete now, and Perfect, and "Done" as a character, so she's "Good enough" for Alicornification. They immediately threw away her relatable panic problem, and then only wrote her as a cute bookworm every so often when they remembered that she's supposed to be one. It also encouraged the writers to try and make the other Mane Six members match Twilight in stature, or at least rival her. And that's dumb.

Rarity owning shops everywhere and having infinite money? Dumb. It's hard to write stories about the struggles of an artist when an artist has none. Some evil villain screws Rarity over and she loses everything, and she has to build herself back up.

Celestia perpetually getting dicked on... At this point, she's less respected than Yamcha in this fanbase. What we need is a Lesson Zero finale moment times ten. A villain shows up and worfs Celestia, things get bad, blah blah blah, and then the heroes make a stupid decision at some point. The villain reaches his perfect form or whatever. And Equestria is doomed. And then the worfed-ten-minutes-ago Celestia calmly gets back up and one-shots the villain and is very disapponted in Twilight. And then potentially temporarily demotes Twilight to Unicorn for a while. Until she does some smart thing, solves some mystery, saves the day on her own by taking apart some backup plan the villain used, and earns her wings back.

The problem with Good Discord is that his redemption didn't feel genuine. He didn't develop an appreciation for the controlled chaos and exciting unpredictability of everyday life, he didn't have fun annoying Twilight by abusing the exact wording of her "Discord, you are forbidden from using your chaos magic to hurt ponies!" order to make rollercoasters and trippy weird shit in Ponyville everypony but her loves, only to suddenly realize he actually enjoys making ponies have fun with him more than he enjoys annoying Twilight(I call dibs on that idea), he just developed a desire to pork Fluttershy after she showed him kindness specifically to manipulate him and get him addicted to her approval. It's always the quiet ones, as they say, but that really doesn't fit the tone of this show. Also, now that he's good, he's too powerful. He can't do anything, and that's dumb. The Discord Redemption episode wasn't good for kids, something like "Fun is good but it's better when others have fun with you" would be better. This just tries to do the "My love can change the bad boy" fantasies no child in the target audience has. Anyway, from then on, Discord went from cool Q-like force of nature to whiny loser who's basically that edgelord foul-mouthed tryhard who won't stop wearing and mentioning "Guaranteed to impress children!" topics when your kid cousins are around. He needs to either get fixed or get convinced to leave this plane of existence and never return.

The problem with random siblings is that they cheapen the characters. Pinkie's family can stay, I guess Shining can exist but he did military stuff a lot so he was barely ever around while Twilight was a filly, and Zephyr is never mentioned because he should not have been made.

Sparity... At this point, it's never going to happen, and it can't happen. Spike needs to get over Rarity and find some cool Dragon girl to visit arcades and theatres and milkshake shops with, because that's what kids should consider a good relationship.

The problem with Glimmer is...

Well, to sum it up quickly, she's an unrepentant and selfish cunt written badly. If you like her, you only think you do because you like the idea of one of the five things attempted at once with this character. She has the craziest fans because of leftist cognitive dissonance. She also has some confused non-crazy fans. And some non-confused non-crazy fans who get it and wish Glimmer wasn't such a goddamn mess.
She's a poorly-written redeemed villain who doesn't seem to feel any sufficient level of remorse for her incredibly evil actions. And this would be alright if it was intentional. She would be FUCKING HILARIOUS in Rick and Morty. Go on, imagine her genociding a city because someone cut her off. Imagine time travel being done to unfuck the damage she caused. Imagine her being a cunt every time Morty brings it up, as if this is no big deal from her perspective. Imagine her randomly casting some spell on Rick and Morty and anyone else at a moment's notice, violating the existences of characters you don't care about, allowing you to laugh at their pain. She'd be hilarious in a universe where her dickishness can be funny, but the writers want her to be charmingly dickish except when she's not, which doesn't work here. The writers don't have the balls to embrace the fact that not everyone will love Glimmer, in the same way not everyone loved Paul from Pokemon Diamond and Pearl: The Anime. They don't have the balls to go all-in with any real concrete personality for someone who can be the only sane mare one minute and a "Hilarious" asshole the next. The writers want you to love Glimmer. They will berate you for not loving Glimmer. They are even willing to make other characters look bad so she can look better. They are willing to turn Trixie into her foil, but in the shitty tvtropes "Cool guy and loser guy duo" sense instead of the proper sense. The writers want to insult MLP and call Pinkie Pie a terrible friend and worse sister. The writers want to call ponies singing to solve problems stupid. And the writers are using this show-ruining Mary Sue to do it.
She never left her villain mindset behind, and she isn't willing to put herself out there and try to redeem herself like her "Inspiration" did. She's "Been Redeemed" a few times, but they never stick because no internal change has happened.
No internal change will ever happen, because the writers think she's perfect, and they want you to get with the program and love her like they do. And they're willing to rub loved characters all over her (Discord, Trixie, Maud) to try and make their love rub off on her.
The writers want you to love her more than you loved Derpy.
Say what you will about Chloe from FOP, but I only find her annoying because she's a Mary Sue. Glimmer is a Mary Sue, and Anti-Sue at the same time, AND a fundamentally unpleasant person.
And she's shoehorned into bad scenes in bad episodes because the writers want to sell this "Formerly-evil student looking for redemption" character as a god-tier master everyone looks up to and asks for advice in everything.
Her creation was lazy, her motivation for evil was laughable BEFORE she ruined thousands of lives and just plain sad afterward, her redemption was rushed and "Finalized" so early that no actual redemption happened, and she's an all-around unpleasant person who has no interest in improving as a person. The second worst kind of fan is attracted to this for the same reason Tomoki from Heaven's Lost Property appeals to them.

The Wonderbolts? They were initially built up as famous fliers and stuntponies, some kind of motorbike stunt group plus the Red Arrows. Then they were built up as cool military dudes, but they fail every time they're shown onscreen. Even in season one. Especially in season one. Rarity was able to accidentally kick their asses. Spike didn't even bother splatting them, he just traps them in a water tower. But the show treats them like they're the coolest guys in the world, even though Rainbow Dash is faster, cooler, and more heroic than them, and a canonically better flier. And then, because Rainbow Dash becomes a member of the Wonderbolts too easily, they have to be written as incompetent jerks so plots can happen. At this point, I think her endgame should be leaving the Wonderbolts, going on a redemption adventure with Lightning Dust, and making her own flying group. Or becoming the new Wonderbolt Captain and fixing it.

The Changelings? Well...

The Changelings were faking redemption all along. The whole "Babby's First Pony DND Game" adventure was actually just a set of fake memories implanted into Trixie and Glimmer in their sleep. Discord doesn't remember anything, Thorax is a brainwashed sleeper agent(who might decide he liked being good and be the only changeling to turn good for real? ...nah, that legion of superheroes episode did that already kinda), and the whole race was putting on their "Glittery sparkly goody-goody-four-shoes" acts so nopony would suspect that such a "Lame" race of non-changelings could secretly be faking it to mock ponies to their faces. And so anyone who starts wondering why so many ponies are disappearing across Equestria and getting their love drained in underground hives can be shamed for being an intolerant speciesist bigot.

The Diversity Six and the Friendship School, people on this site have already talked about how dumb a Leftist Academy of Goodthink is. The Diversity Six haven't appeared yet and never will, because they're unfinished meme characters who are all appearances and no substance in the case of those that bothered to be monster races, and in the case of the non-monster-race ones, they're nothing. Bad bland self-inserts with no proper strong character traits. Twilight will make a boarding school of magic when she's fourty. While doing Celestia-esque stuff to encourage friendships in this boarding school. And she'll be a proper headmaster who'll hire actual goddamn teachers.

Twilight's stupid castle can't be salvaged. It's an ugly crystal playset that doesn't fit the town or its owner. It needs to be demolished, and Silver's going to go Extreme Home Upgrades on that thing. Twilight deserves what is simultaneously a grand and beautiful house that fits her status, and a simple and quiet and open library-tree-observatory that suits her. Including a room to torrent books. I know that wouldn't fly in the show, I just think a magical book-torrenting room would be something every magic librarian should have, especially this one. Also, her whole "Idolizes Celestia" and "Can't tell when things really are lost causes(such as glimmer)" problems are character flaws she should work to overcome. Some rerailment, back to the smart hero she was in the show's early days, needs to happen. DBZ fights are cool and all but the mare needs some mysteries to solve.

>>3736
If that's honestly what you were going for then good news: you've done a very good job of setting Silver up to be a cunt. Your problem is you made him too much of a cunt. If you want to actually redeem him it's going to take more than just a sappy "he learns the magic of friendship" MLP style redemption. Before anything else can happen, you're going to need to have him own up to the simple fact that his behavior is not just bad, it's reprehensible. First and foremost he needs to acknowledge that what he did to Glimmer and by extension to Twilight is not just wrong, but unbelievably fucked up.

Precisely what Twilight's duties are as Princess of Friendship is a little vaguely defined and that's the series writers' fault, but at an absolute minimum we know that she has chosen Glimmer's reformation as a personal project in the scope of that role. Whatever else she may be she's an officially recognized authority figure in this world and her decisions should mean something. Whatever stupid powers and genius intelligence you want Silver to have, he's still a subject to this country's wacky quasi-monarchy and is obligated to show deference to a Princess' authority. Furthermore, even without Glimmer being under Twilight's protection, Silver doesn't have the authority or the right to just override whatever judicial process Equestria has and just pass sentence on another pony like that.

Here's a scenario for you. Imagine that your girlfriend is a school guidance counselor. She has a problem student she's counseling that she believes she can save. You're familiar with the girl she's counseling and you think she's just irredeemably evil. You solve the problem by abducting the child, throwing her in the trunk of your car, driving her out to the middle of the woods and leaving her there to die. You either don't tell your girlfriend or make up some plausible explanation for why the child vanished and tell her that. Is what you did ok? Because this is pretty much what you have Silver do in Chapter 6. One way or the other you need to address it.

>>3741
This is not even taking into account the things he did in previous parts of the story. I'm not even finished slogging through chapter 1 yet and it already this character seems pretty close to irredeemable. He talks about hard work and earning your own way in the world but he basically uses graft and extortion to grow wealthy so he can dedicate his time to what basically amounts to leisure pursuits. He's essentially a mob boss. It's surprising Celestia would allow someone like this to operate in Equestria, let alone in Canterlot, maybe the implication is that he's supposed to be flying under her radar somehow, I don't know.

Some of the points you make about the series writing are in line with criticisms I have of the show, but you need to set the things in your own universe to right before you start trying to remake the canon in order to better suit your vision.

>>3739
This post right here sums up exactly what is so frustrating about talking to you. You can see the faults in Glimmer's character but you can't recognize the same faults in your own character.

>She's a poorly-written redeemed villain who doesn't seem to feel any sufficient level of remorse for her incredibly evil actions. And this would be alright if it was intentional. She would be FUCKING HILARIOUS in Rick and Morty. Go on, imagine her genociding a city because someone cut her off. Imagine time travel being done to unfuck the damage she caused. Imagine her being a cunt every time Morty brings it up, as if this is no big deal from her perspective. Imagine her randomly casting some spell on Rick and Morty and anyone else at a moment's notice, violating the existences of characters you don't care about, allowing you to laugh at their pain. She'd be hilarious in a universe where her dickishness can be funny, but the writers want her to be charmingly dickish except when she's not, which doesn't work here. The writers don't have the balls to embrace the fact that not everyone will love Glimmer, in the same way not everyone loved Paul from Pokemon Diamond and Pearl: The Anime. They don't have the balls to go all-in with any real concrete personality for someone who can be the only sane mare one minute and a "Hilarious" asshole the next. The writers want you to love Glimmer. They will berate you for not loving Glimmer. They are even willing to make other characters look bad so she can look better. They are willing to turn Trixie into her foil, but in the shitty tvtropes "Cool guy and loser guy duo" sense instead of the proper sense. The writers want to insult MLP and call Pinkie Pie a terrible friend and worse sister. The writers want to call ponies singing to solve problems stupid. And the writers are using this show-ruining Mary Sue to do it.

Literally every single word of this paragraph could be used to describe your own character, Silver Star. What you see as the writers' attachment to Glimmer and desire to have her liked mirrors your own desire for Silver (as well as Silver's desire for throbbing stallion dong in his throat lol).

It's possible that I'm completely wrong about you. It could be that you are actually a genius writer who has constructed this fiction to be some kind of metafictional satire in which you create the world's most universally unlikable OC to provoke a reaction, and in so doing satirize Glimmer's reappearance in the show and the fan controversy surrounding it. But somehow, I don't think that's the case. I think that you have a raging hateboner for one character and the writers who inserted her into the show, and it completely blinds you to everything wrong with your own character and your own writing.

>ITT Nigel bitches about Glimmer being a Mary Sue
>neglecting that Silver "Tut tut tut, it looks like penis" Star is a far more egregious Mary Sue
>posturing as though differing opinions are invalid cuz reasons
Carry on

>>3744
Did I hurt you at some point?
>>3743
I understand your frustrations, but please understand: I'm going to make Silver less of a cunt as time goes on, because he's going to grow as a person over time. Glimmer is never going to be less of a cunt, because her writers think she's perfect and everypony else just needs to get on board with that.
>>3741
>>3742
Nice! That's the intended reaction. Silver's got a lot of work to do.
I'm not sure if the scenario really applies to an irredeemable murderer who fucked with random Ponyville citizens and mindfucked the ponies who forgave her, but I think I could get more emotion out of the story if I made Twilight see it like that.

>>3745
What a degenerate. Who the fuck likes We Bare Bears?

>>3747

Glimmernigel, this is your mindset.

>>3746
>I'm not sure if the scenario really applies to an irredeemable murderer who fucked with random Ponyville citizens and mindfucked the ponies who forgave her, but I think I could get more emotion out of the story if I made Twilight see it like that.
See, the whole problem is you're still not getting it. You had your character do something that cannot be in any way justified. You can't resolve the situation in a way that both you and the reader will like. Forget about Glimmer for a second, arguing over whether or not she's redeemable is a waste of time at this point. At this point I'm willing to play devil's advocate and agree with you that she's evil. It still doesn't justify what Silver did. It should have been Twilight's decision what to do with Glimmer, Silver had no right to jump the gun and attack her. If he wanted to put Glimmer on trial he should have brought the matter to Twilight, not taken it upon himself.

I can already tell what you're thinking: you're going to write a conversation scene between Twilight and Silver where she starts out angry at him, but he convinces her that Glimmer was evil, so she eventually decides he did the right thing. It's not going to work, the reader won't like it and won't gain any sympathy for Silver because the central issue wasn't resolved. The central issue is less what Silver did to Glimmer and more what Silver did to Twilight.

I'll say it again: Twilight assumed responsibility for Glimmer by giving her a redemption, and it was her prerogative to do so. Glimmer was her old nemesis, not Silver's. Twilight and her friends had the encounter with her in Our Town, not Silver. All the time travel shit that she did was about fucking with Twilight, not fucking with Silver. Twilight, despite what she'd done to her, chose to give Glimmer another chance to redeem herself, and by all appearances Glimmer was making an effort. Again the whole issue is that you just plain don't understand these characters that well. If you understood Twilight's character at all, you would realize that she would never forgive Silver for doing what he did; it doesn't matter if he was right about Glimmer or not. You set up Silver and Twilight to be some kind of romantic couple or at least friends, yet you had Silver do something that would create an irreconcilable conflict between them. Before the story can move on, the conflict needs to be resolved. There are only two possible ways to resolve it that work. One, you can have Silver apologize to Twilight, who will not forgive him until he makes it right. In order to make it right, he will have to go off into whatever dimension he sent Glimmer into and bring her back. That is probably not something you'd be willing to do. Two, the relationship between Twilight and Silver ends by necessity, because they now have an irreconcilable wedge between them. I'm guessing you don't want to do that either. It's called writing yourself into a corner. The third way, the way you're planning to go, where Silver just convinces Twilight he was right and she should just accept his decision like a good little puppet character whose only role in the story is to fluff your character's dick, is amateurish and readers will hate it. Don't do it.

If you really want to send Glimmer off into Dimension X or whatever because you hate her, fine. But you handled it wrong. Glimmer should not be out of the story yet. That fight shouldn't have happened, or at least it shouldn't have ended the way it did. The way I would do it would be to have Silver and Glimmer run into each other at the party. Silver gets angry at Glimmer because all of his reasons. Glimmer defends herself and gets angry, tells him piss off, I'm reformed. They argue (not for 25,000 words though, and leave the ideological crap out of it). It ends with Glimmer stomping off. Twilight meanwhile saw the whole thing. She's upset with Silver and sticks up for Glimmer. Silver gets pissed at her, "how can you stick up for that monster?" etc etc. Twilight gets pissed at him. They storm off and don't speak to each other for a bit. Now you've basically got two interesting story dynamics to work with, instead of an unsolvable conflict. You've got an interpersonal conflict between Twilight, Silver and Glimmer, and you've got a separate relationship issue between Twilight and Silver. Both of those things can be dealt with over subsequent chapters. You can play up the tension for a bit, then have a scene in which Twilight, Glimmer and Silver all talk about Glimmer's redemption and whether or not she should be forgiven. At that point, if you want to end it with Twilight deciding it's okay for Silver to cunt punt Glimglam into another dimension, that's up to you; it's your story. I probably still wouldn't, but that's me. But either way the ultimate decision should be made by Twilight.

Chapter 6 of this story just plain needs to be torn up and rewritten, the way you wrote it is a dead end. There's no way around it.

>>3746
Yes, you are so lacking in Football you could be an honorary Seattle Seahawk

>>3751
I remember that GET like it was yesterday..
>Tfw no trolls/shills to wage war against

>>3752

we are lacking a couple hundred regulars to cultivate a healthy raiding community

>>3748
>what is obvious joke
Putting that aside, am I being compared to some anti-brony weirdo who thinks watching MLP is an inherently childish and degenerate thing, or am I being accused of being that guy in disguise? I know it doesn't matter either way, but come on, for the record.
>>3750
I was planning on doing a side story where Glimmer gets trapped in that "Sombra War Timeline" universe she created and has to grow as a person to survive and help to save it as an ordinary soldier on the battlefield, and Silver shows up when the plot's done because he has to bring her back, but she decides she likes going all Quantum Leap and helping timelines instead of ruining them, but if you think that belongs in the main plot, I'll see if I can fit it in there.

>>3754
>Silver shows up when the plot's done because he has to bring her back
Is that becuase Twilight demanded it or because Silver got a change of heart? What is the reason?

>>3755 Just curious.

>>3755
Silver decided to check up on her, expecting her to have been specifically trying to make this timeline she created worse out of spite.

>>3709

>"They asked how well I understood theoretical physicscomputer science.
>I said I had a theoretical degree in physicscomputer science. They said, 'welcome aboard.'"

Now, in complete fairness, '''AI''' and ''AI'' is abit of a meme.
If we could create the first steps of 'living' machines with brains that utilize 'M'MI tech, then that would be cool and then we can talk sweety.
Until then, we'll need to harvest more dead babies for their science juice.

Until, of course, we can process specialized cells into other things, I personally love the idea of grafting a second neural-network onto every'bodies' spine via their own blood supply, I think it would be hilarious if those same people ended up with horrible side-effect deformities like increased pain receptors or states of sudden psychosis, as science requires things be done simply in its namesake alone. Just be GLaD to be alive.

>>3706
Oh my fucking god, I was going to bring this up in the other thread but I've been oh so busy the past few days bb.
I can't believe you're so fucking dumb that you bring it up unprompted, oh my lord senpai, save me from Glimmernigel.
I'll bring it up in the other thread (your obsessions and HP&tMOR) because it isn't relative in this one (and I seriously didn't expect you to do this before I could get to your weird obsessive but not-neurotic nature of these kinds of things you 'remember to loathe.'

(Oh my lord, what are you doing.)

Found a nice pic. Your thoughts?

>>3759
That you need a better pic.

>>3760
*rolls eyes*
God, you're egotistical. And so are your friends.
Why should I bend over backwards to please you, or your little "9gag army" from reddit? Why do you feel entitled to my respect? You are an unpleasant person, and a cowardly bully. So are your friends. You have given me no reasons to like you, respect you, or give any weight to your words. You're butthurt children on a school playground.
What are you offering me? Not money. You attacked first, so are you saying that you'll stop attacking if I "Capitulate" and become what you consider a good person?
What would I have to do, to become a better person in your eyes? To apologize for not liking your waifu, to apologize for upsetting you by admitting that I do not like your waifu, and to apologize for being a mean old pesky white male with free thought and individual tastes and standards and the ability to remember the good old days before you and your enablers were here.
There's a reason why people don't apologize to SJWs when they know what SJWs are and how they operate.
Are you currently crusading for "Fat Acceptance" or "Pedophilia Acceptance"? No, you're currently crusading for "Glimmer Acceptance", and you're doing so with your usual tactics, your usual tricks, and your usual lies. Your usual IdPol "I identify you as a meanie yikesy cringey triggererer lolcishetscum shitlord and I FEEL that you must stop being so mean!" bullshit.
>inb4 you ignore everything else I say
>inb4 "So you're saying glimmer=pedophilia? lmao yikes how cringey"
You can't argue against my reasoning for why Glimmer is a poorly-written Poochie and hilariously bad Mary Sue, so you want to insult me until I get tired of your reddit army's antics, I prove that I'm the bigger person, I give you what you want, and I "Take back" what I said about leftist politics- I mean a leftist character.
Then again, last time a ban was placed on Glimmer being spammed on-site and used as something to "Trigger" people into complaining about your bullshit, you decided to retreat to your Discord circlejerks for a few months, to lick your wounds and plan your next attacks against the man who just might be the man who ruined your last raid against this site and its users, starting with the one you hate the most.
You're here to get revenge for your waifu, and it's stupid. This is a fictitious character! It's one thing for one of you crybabies to get this mad and this dishonest when someone says "Studies show that mixed-race people are more likely to develop heart disease" or "Mathematically speaking, there are around seventy criminal black people in America for every one law-abiding black citizen" or even "Show me the black Tolstoy, the black Mozart, and the black Tesla", but you...
You aren't just getting this mad over someone who doesn't share your political views breathing the same air as you. You're getting this mad over someone who doesn't like your favourite noncanon fictional horse not being banned from every pony site you can access.
You're mad, you're reaching, you're lying, and you're embarassing yourself. You're throwing around 4chan words like "Lolcow" in liberal ways because you're this bad at hiding what you are when "Agitated".
So, please, do go on.
Tell me how I trigger you. Tell me how I make you haha and angery and feel the big cringe. Tell me how many uncomfs you are having. Call this conversation all the negative words you know, and tell me who's winning what in your head.
Tell me how you feel you and your seven friends=everyone in the world that matters, because you can form a consensus opinion in your little discord room.
Tell me I'm a mean, mad, straight white man.
But really.
Do you really expect to fool anyone here with the lies you use so liberally?
Where do you think you are?

>>3761
First, stop pretending to possess Internet E.S.P.
Second, if you'd like to pare all that down to some kind of polite inquiry, without projecting unfounded imputations of malice upon me, I'd be more than happy to answer it.

>>3759
I think it's hilariously mediocre.
It should be the responsibility of the artist (that 'responsibility' is to their own self interest and their benefit) to help themselves improve.
Sure, critics should give 'good' feedback, but the people being criticized should maybe not try to offload all the responsibility of self-reflection, self-assessment and self-improvement onto the critics to do the work for them.

It's amazing that you have one user hounding you in gigantic multi-paragraph posts reviewing your entire story, just to provide you with criticism and in the process turn your worthless threads into something people like I might be able to pick up something of value, some idea or critical inspiration to use in my own possible stories.

The fact is that people, artist, writers for example ^:) might be able to for themselves find the valuable ('positive') literary aspects of their work and to find for themselves the ways in which they can improve.
If someone is going to self-teach themselves they'll have to assume the responsibility of improving their ability and craft.

>>3761
>Tell me how I make you haha and angery and feel the big cringe. Tell me how many uncomfs you are having.
This made me laugh, you should just write comedy. Infact, this is a tragedy, so you're halfway there.
Nobody wants you to like Glimmer. The only true responsibilities you have are those concerning your self interest, anything else is you projecting an attack onto yourself by the people compelling you to improve, which you can (and do) readily ignore.

In light of that, it's amazing that you choose to point at everyone pointing at you and laughing, nobody cares if you apologize or don't.
You could very easily ignore everything except for the useful criticisms, but you don't seem to care for some criticisms over other less 'entertaining' ones, I wonder why.

You are the one making yourself the focus of any attention by caring so much.
I bet you're getting real sweaty because people are making fun of you and that's why you feel compelled to defend yourself and attack others, if you weren't you wouldn't be here 'defending' the things you can't even create a defence for and in the process attacking others in really convoluted ways.
If you weren't so sweaty or maybe self-righteous over this you wouldn't be making yourself the focus of attention.

"Moooo."

">169196"

>>3762
>projecting unfounded imputations of malice upon me
The pot calling the kettle just abandoned its family to continue its career as a criminal.

>>3765
Ignoring how that attempt at wit doesn't even make sense, you're at least improving on restraining your projection.
Now, do you want a polite response, or not?