Who wants to see a fanfic in which, halfway through chapter one, my donut steel OC debates Glimmer and then kicks her ass when she attacks him?
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No, it's more like "you're criticizing me wrong commies, not a single one of your criticisms is valid because you didn't create my entire fic for me even if you did suggest alternative ways of writing" followed by a swift "go fuck yourself, you don't get to choose how you get criticized anymore."
>>3844>20 chapters from now>20 unbearable, repulsive chapters
Please, for the love of Celestia give up writing long novels and try a short story.
One more thing...
I haven't been judged by my peers.
I've been judged by the sad, pathetic group of ten or so Glimmer fans who are harassing me on this site, and multiple other sites.
If you seriously got duped by their "Yell bad words and hope they stick" tactics, well... Do you fall for that shit often?
Trump is regularly "Judged" by a fuckton of liberals and liberan news outlets to be this bad word and that bad word and so on. Should we all pretend consensus=fact?
That's how you choose to view this? That's how you choose to (ir)rationalize away my points? Sad, but I can't stop you from misreading my posts. But I can stop caring about your posts.
Take a step back, drop the mob mentality you've been goaded into, and look at what's happening here.
Of course Commies won't like a story in which a pro-capitalist battle mage earns his way from rags to riches. Why should I care when they call my character "Toxic" and "Transphobic" and why should I care when they call me a "Racist" "sexist" "egotistical" "incel" and "lolcow"?
I know about the charity work I've done, I know about the lives I've saved, I know about the good things I've done for this planet and western society and if they do know about it, they certainly wouldn't admit it or tell you about it, because it goes against the "Guys, look at CWC 2! Even worse than CWC 1!" narrative they're trying to build up so you don't think too hard about what I'm saying.
They're liberals, shouting liberal words liberally.
They keep repeating the "Your fanfic is the worst, you should get better at fanfic" and "You are the worst person, you should be a better person" lines, but if I listened to them… How would I improve?
I wouldn't. If I listened to their "Advice" and wrote what they feel entitled to read, I'd end up writing on the level of that "And then Glimmer came back and molested Silver" story.
And if I listened to their "Advice" on how to be what they consider a "Better" person, what would I become? I'm already treating them far better than they're treating me. Would it change their view of me, if I used nicer words to describe the people threatening me, harassing me, and trying to dox me over fucking ponies? No, I'm a "Thoughtcriminal", I have "Sinned" by saying too many mean things about their horse, and I must be shamed on this site with these tumblr callout posts. After all, all the redpilled users apparently gave up on this site at some point, so the voices of the raiders are once again the loudest.
But even if I was this horrible man who needed to improve as a person…
One, what are my crimes? Writing a fanfic in which Glimmer loses. But her fans hated me and harassed me long before I wrote the chapter in which she showed up. Oh, and I made a thread on a redpilled site about a fanfic in which a commie uses. Well, two threads, one about making it and one in which I post it. Truly, I am like fifty Hitlers right now.
And two… There are pedophiles, on the internet. There are feminists, on the internet. There are parents who abuse their kids and proudly upload footage of this on the internet. There are Antifa members and supporters who proudly proclaim that they want the western world to die.
These people aren't doing anything about those people, because they're busy with someone who is, in their heads, "Worse".
And what do these people consider the worst man on the planet? What are they dedicating their free time to harassing, abusing, and trying to dox?
Some semi-former My Little Pony fan who doesn't like their favourite pony.
THESE are your "Moral Authorities"? These wannabe Commissars look like moral, rational, trustworthy people to take seriously? These crying children are the people we're all supposed to just trust blindly?
Look at that "Monarchy VS Communism" picture, in which an anti-communist argument is reduced to something almost as absurd as pro-communist arguments.
The Liberals have to dismiss my criticism of them. The Liberals have to dismiss my criticism of their ideology and behaviour. The Liberals have to dismiss my criticism of their criticism. Because they can't handle it. They can't handle dissent. They can't handle mature debate or discussion, and they are projecting onto me because that's what cowardly bullies do. They want to shout down at me and tell me what I am and should be, and they want me silenced so I can't speak out against them.
Antifa tactics on a supposedly redpilled site. Gee, I wonder where the mods are.
Jason, in case your twisted pea sized brain has forgotten, your former masters have publicly disavowed You, the very admin of this site has declared you fagola non grata.
You have no power here any longer. Your lunacy, your reactions, your professional victimhood, your newfaggotry and the putrid ichor erupting from every volume of the excepts you puke onto the digital space are self evident of the inexcusable perversion that is your author career. Im almost inclinded to print your story out just to do a ritual bookburning of this filth.
Wow, many words.
Now, decide if I'm...>that man who ruined your last Glimmerspamming raid on /mlpol/ years ago>some new guy
i dont care who you think you are, but i know what you are going to be.
>>3850>years ago>years plural>being this retarded
This might not fit the tone of the thread at all, but sometimes, I think a story where a young Star Apple tests out and practices his magic and experiments with the creation of the magitek stuff he'd sell as an adult, does other backstory stuff(spoilers), then he "Becomes" Silver Star and goes to the Canterlot Academy of Magical Duelling, pretending to be a rich pony as he tries to make friends and navigate social situations and learn combat magic and stuff, would be a better story than "Silver goes on a macguffin quest with the Mane Six, forms a relationship with Twilight after they get over their fangirl/fanboy phases, and they help him get over the emotional issues he thought he'd already gotten over".
I mean, okay? Doesn't change what was, especially since you're the author of the story.
>>3853>"""Earth Pony OC""">oh boy i sure like to write about magick and shit
Check your post faget
>>3832>20 chapters from now
OH GOD I'M NEVER GOING GET ANY REST AM I
>>3848>That's how you choose to view this?
As usual, the best way to respond to you is to throw your own words back at you.>Of course Commies won't like a story in which a pro-capitalist battle mage earns his way from rags to riches.
Again: "That's how you choose to view this?"
You honestly think that's why you're being shit on? Nigel, how many times do you need to be told this: YOU ARE BEING SHIT ON BECAUSE YOUR WRITING IS TERRIBLE.>Why should I care when they call my character "Toxic" and "Transphobic" and why should I care when they call me a "Racist" "sexist" "egotistical" "incel" and "lolcow"?
Literally no one has called you or your character any of these things, except lolcow. Well, "incel" probably applies as well, but you're the first one to mention it. I, however, have called your character badly written, obnoxious, egotistical, overpowered, and unsympathetic, because that is literally what he is. I've also spent most of the last two weeks thinking up inventive new ways to call him a faggot. As for you yourself, I have mostly called you a bad writer, which again applies. The shoe fits, Nigel. If you don't want to respond to the criticism you've been given then fine, but please stop making shit up.>I know about the charity work I've done, I know about the lives I've saved, I know about the good things I've done for this planet and western society and if they do know about it, they certainly wouldn't admit it or tell you about it, because it goes against the "Guys, look at CWC 2! Even worse than CWC 1!" narrative they're trying to build up so you don't think too hard about what I'm saying.
Fine, you do charity work, good for you. That changes literally nothing here, because the topic at hand is your writing, which is still just as objectively terrible as it was before you told us that. The irony here is you accuse all of us of being "leftists" or "SJWs", but you keep using SJW-tier bullshit arguments to defend yourself. Bragging about charity work is a fine example; the belief that good intentions justify any result is a frequent squawking point of leftists and SJWs.>They're liberals, shouting liberal words liberally.
Liberals, leftists, SJWs, Glimmerniggers, Manbearpig. It's always buzzwords and excuses with you. Get it through your thick limey skull Nigel: YOUR WRITING IS OBJECTIVELY BAD. That is what we are saying.>They keep repeating the "Your fanfic is the worst, you should get better at fanfic" and "You are the worst person, you should be a better person" lines, but if I listened to them… How would I improve?
You've been given ample advice on how to improve, you just refuse to listen. I've practically written a separate book just deconstructing your shitty fanfic, and I assume you've not even read a word of it. I don't even care; I didn't expect you to read it when I started. You tune out criticism better than leftists tune out crime statistics. At this point it's just writing advice for anyone interested in hearing my thoughts on the subject and entertainment for everyone else. However, I think if you were willing to simply step out of your own ego for a second and acknowledge that you aren't the greatest writer of all time, you might actually learn something.>If I listened to their "Advice" and wrote what they feel entitled to read, I'd end up writing on the level of that "And then Glimmer came back and molested Silver" story.
Yes, and at that point you would have written something objectively better than "Silver Star Apple and the Quest for YuGiOh Ripoffs and Incredibly Hard Butt Sodomy" or whatever the title of your work is. Ergo, you would have improved.>I'm already treating them far better than they're treating me.
No you're not. When you respond at all, you're petulant and whiny and act like you're being unfairly ganged up on. I'll remind you that you yourself started all this, just like you started it last year, and just like you'll start it again if you're masochistic enough to remain on this site after this.>One, what are my crimes?
Against the community or against literature itself? Because the answer to both questions would be "Silver Star Apple and The Quest for Having Entire Cantaloupes Shoved Inside His Ass">And two… There are pedophiles, on the internet. There are feminists, on the internet. There are parents who abuse their kids and proudly upload footage of this on the internet. There are Antifa members and supporters who proudly proclaim that they want the western world to die.
Yes, there are. That is relevant to this discussion about the quality of your writing in what way exactly?>Look at that "Monarchy VS Communism" picture, in which an anti-communist argument is reduced to something almost as absurd as pro-communist arguments.
I don't know what picture you're referencing. You know you can attach images to your posts, right? Anyway, ironically, most of us have said a similar thing about your argument scene with Glimmer. You reduce the conversation down to simplistic strawman arguments; the whole thing is basically just a reddit-tier No U debate.>The Liberals have to dismiss my criticism of them. The Liberals have to dismiss my criticism of their ideology and behaviour. The Liberals have to dismiss my criticism of their criticism. Because they can't handle it. They can't handle dissent.
I'm starting to think this is unironically what you think is actually happening here.>Gee, I wonder where the mods are.
Probably eating popcorn and laughing at you, same as the rest of us.
LITERALLY ANY CHANGE from what you have now would be an improvement. Your story has nowhere to go but up.
I explicitly said a number of things, with simple overall expectations in the resolution.
I'll even simplify them for you:
Even with your 'amazing' image in mind, the critiqued party (implying aggressed somehow lol) should not absolve themselves of responsibility, otherwise they obstruct to some degree their own self-improvement and overall-positive self-interests. Does that remind you of anyone?
Hilariously my response to the image was,
1. Positive, (not POZitive, but in the same vein as a positive-sum game).
3. The next step is something you've been provided constantly, horse, meet water.
>>3844>20 chapters from now>chapter 6>maybe about done with chapter 7.>"I'm about 80% done with the story"
Godamn you dont even know how to do basic math. Supposed 80% done with the story and all thats happened is random bullshit in the format of copycatting the show in your own spergy flavor with loosely connected "episodes" and you decided to use staright as a poor "season finale">Walking back to Ponyville together, something dawned upon Twilight. “Did we learn anything from that?”>“We learned there’s a Diamond Dog empire, and it wants to conquer Equestria,” Silver reminded her. "And that this town might be the perfect place for a break from Canterlot.">“I meant morally.” Twilight explained.>“Hmm...” Silver thought, and then he started speaking like he was reading a letter aloud. ”Dear Princess Twilight. Today I learned things that seem dangerous can actually be great! Also, Extreme Gears are amazing and you should buy one now!”>Everypony laughed, and the episode irised out
>>3862>Dear Princess Celestia,>Today I learned that Silver Star is the super most cutest cutie cute pony with awesome powers and great hair and oh my you I just want to let him do whatever he wants to me. Have you ever seen him do magic and stuff? OMG it's just totes amazorz!>I am therefore as of now resigning my post as Princess of Friendship to pursue my life's calling as President of the Silver Star is Great fan club. Also we're getting married!!! <3 <3 <3>Your Faithful Former Student,>Twilight Sparkle>PS he put a hot tub in my castle without asking, isn't that just the dreamiest thing ever? I'm totally going to let him do anal tonight.
>>3848> Writing a fanfic in which Glimmer loses.
You've completely lost the plot, because your stupidly long and padded with inane garbage fic has literally nothing to do with starlight until chapter 5 where shes just an afterthought of Nigelight. I did a ctrl f for "starlight" in your fic. Not ONE time is she even seen until your autistic sperg out in Chapter 6 where you decided you couldnt bear not letting your hate for starlight to go on any further, and it came out like a pot boiling over full of your own piss. Stop trying to even claim your story has anything to do with glimmer at all, because there is nothing there IS NO PLOT. The that effects your supposed main plot about magic tarot card crap, you know when you plagiarized Team Rocket verbatim? but then decided to bring them back with cards which im sure you plagiarized from some other anime.>And then the ground beneath them gave way, a pitfall trap leading into a chute that lead into the original one. Silver straightened his body to fall faster and he landed first, hooves flashing orange and absorbing the shock. His right forehoof’s orange energy formed a bouncy castle for the rest to bounce on, something Pinkie loved.>“How?!” Silver snapped at the tunnel walls, his voice echoing, his bouncy castle vanishing as Pinkie landed on Rainbow Dash.>The laughter of two haughty rich-pony voices, one male and one female, caught their ears, along with the laughter of a mare from Manehattan.>Or, at least, they thought these were ponies, until they looked up and saw the silhouetted figures of two Diamond Dogs.>“Prepare for trouble,
here in this cave!” The female figure announced, thin and lithe, with a spiralling catlike tail.>“And make it double, this could be your grave!” The buff male figure with huge hands announced.>“An evil as old as the land and sea...” She began.>“Sent here to fulfill our destiny!” He continued.>A smaller third figure popped up between them.
“And then, there’s me!” The manehattanite voice announced.>“To eat and drink to our hearts’ content!” Said the tall female.>“And hoard the rest without paying a cent!” Said the large male.>One by one, gems around them started to glow upon them like spotlights, properly illuminating them.
But startlight? you waste 30 fucking thousand words on the longest drivel in your fic yet, and for what? Starlight hasnt been introduced as a villain in your story, you just decide to force it on the reader and offload all her crimes you made up with no build up or backstory and then have an autismo narutard anime fight with her as if this is supposed to be a climax of the story and everyone is supposed to be engaged when it just comes completely out of the blue, and your own ass.
You are such a limp dick mother fucker that you wont even show her committing any so called crimes against a pony except your OC.
Learn how to fucking something with Acts in them if you want anyone to give a shit about your retarded ideas. The fact of the matter, is not the idea of Starlight being a commie thats a bad idea, or any of the other crap you made up. It's the fact you did a SHIT JOB at showing that to the reader why she's a villain and you think ONE scene where you unload all your spit raging fury about how you fucking hate starlight is good enough. YOU ARE A SHIT WRITER NIGEL. Walls of Autism about favoritism is not going to convince people to get the idea that Starlight is a bad character, it isnt even going to convince people that shes a villain and it sure as fuck wont convince anyone that your idea for starlight is better than Hasbros either.
>>3859>As usual, the best way to respond to you is to throw your own words back at you.
See, that's your problem: You aren't acting in good faith. You aren't trying to have a discussion with me, you're trying to berate me and my work until I "Give in" and "Lisun to u".
You aren't listening to what I have to say, liberal, but you feel entitled to be "Listened to" and to have your words taken as gospel.
When I say "Why are you doing x" or "Could you stop doing x", your response is "No ur doing x uwu".
Why? Because you recognize x as a bad thing, and you want people to believe I'm a bad man who has done bad things.
I'm the next Hitler, apparently, because I write fanfiction you don't approve of or enjoy reading.
So far, the only thing worth a damn that's been said about my Silver "Hurr durr he likes penis in his butt" Star story is that one bit where someone complained about the whole "You ask a question, then I ask a question" thing falling apart almost immediately like it does in most realistic conversations.
Good to know that didn't only bother me, I'll consider revising that part.
By the way, Glimmer isn't a season finale for this story. She's a footnote.
As for Glimmer doing evil… I was thinking of having her try to hit him with a Cutie Mark remover spell right after she loses their debate, instead of after he pushes her a little by fighting smarter than her, would that improve the story?
It would certainly make her more in-character. Hell, it's OOC for Glimmer to even last half as long as she did in that debate.
I mean, come on. When she has trouble talking to Big Mac, she forces him to talk(She'd be hilarious and far less detestable if the writers kept her from going beyond this level post-redemption). When five of the Mane Six critique her ideas on how to "Chill" effectively, she brainwashes them on the spot. On purpose, by mixing together some brainwashing spells. You can't even make the "Dark magic made her do it" excuse you could make with Trixie. When problems arise at the Nu-ling hive, she brings a monster that could kill them all. I know you stopped reading this part but you leftists who don't belong here really tip your hand and ruin the illusion when you say anti-commie political talk is something a story shouldn't contain. When Discord pisses her off, she laser-obliterates him and it was probably only an order from the executives that had the voice actor say "Actually no I just banished him so he can come back in the next scene". When her pseudo-boyfriend… did he try to leave her, or something? Anyway she age-regressed him over that. Oh, and she sold Trixie's house or some shit. One of my mates, he did hate Trixie more than Glimmer, but that scene (of all scenes? wtf man lol) made her hate Glimmer as much as me.
I'm probably forgetting some evil shit Glimmer has done. I'm probably leaving out some stuff from numlp episodes I didn't watch.
And despite all of her evil, she gets rewarded for it. She gets to be the Friendship School's leftist student counsellor person. She gets to TEACH TWILIGHT a thing or two about friendship. She gets to encourage Twilight to ignore the checks and balances on power. She gets to have Trixie plucked out of the writer's bin and assigned to her as the designated "Loser friend who makes Glimmer look better and saner". She gets to have a random inexplicable jump in power from "I can't beat one of Twilight's shields, and I can only take her mark if I get lucky" to "Not even the pissed-off embodiment of friendship and magic fighting for everything she holds dear can stop me from killing multiple millions every hour, and she can only get me to stop by offering me amnesty and a nice place at her castle", because the writers wanted her "Redeemed" and shoved down your throat as the "New" protagonist more than they wanted this character's arc to make any kind of sense.
She's already a villain, and you're fooling yourself if you think "The hero said she's redeemed so she's redeemed" works.
She's a fundamentally lazy villain, too. Yet another "Evil Twilight" done badly. Only so badly that someone involved with the show fell in love with her and ruined the show for her sake.
One more thing, if you think Silver Star Apple is a hypocritical egotistical knight templar cunt, it's intentional. He hasn't been through character development yet, and Twilight's still in the "He's so cool and smart, just like the books said he was!" phase.
32,000 words. 32,000 words, for a footnote.>>3867
You don't seem to get that we're not complaining about that. We're complaining about your methods, which are abysmal. If the reader can't tell if you're serious or not and has to slog through thousands of words of mischaracterizing, self-fellating trash to get even the semblance of a plot, there is a serious problem. Rather than reveal Glimmer's problems that actually exist, you hammer in artificial points and somehow make her much more sympathetic than the show ever did.>>3865
Again, just like one of those "chefs." It doesn't matter if Dickens, Hemingway or Shakespeare himself reviewed your tripe, you'd ignore his advice when you're very deserving of being berated. It's the (vastly more experienced) readers at fault, not you, and you can do no wrong. You deserve as many words of scorn as your glorified toilet paper is long.
I get that you, on a fundamental level, don't like the idea of a writer refusing criticism. And it'd be stupid to resent you for that, because I don't like seeing it either.
But criticism isn't this inherently perfect and valuable thing. Each piece of criticism only has as much value as it... well, has.
If someone says my story is shit because I ripped off Team Rocket for a villain group, well... The setting of MLPFIM kinda needs villains, and I like Team Rocket. They're also a godsend in the writing department, as they can be as threatening or as nonthreatening as the episode requires, without any change in their overall characterizations. Is Dinosaur King also shit for ripping off Team Rocket?
And yeah, 32k words is a footnote for me. If you think that's bad, wait until you see the Fequestria fic. Hope you don't like Zebras!
>>3865>I'm the next Hitler, apparently
Pfft, you wish.>You aren't listening to what I have to say
Nigger, I've spent literally the last two weeks wading through that river of shit you wrote line by line. I'm glad you've chosen to restructure at least one of the myriad flaws in your brutally awkward date scene, but I notice you still don't address the main point that was made, which is that your character spends the entire date blathering about himself and his mastery of autistic world physics, and pays Twilight about as much attention as he'd pay to a tape recorder he was talking into.
Your disrespectful writing of Twilight is probably my biggest gripe about your story, frankly even more so than your character's obnoxious superpowers and complete lack of interest in overcoming any actual challenge or ever pursuing any level of personal growth. Your presentation of her as some kind of squeaky toy whose only purpose in the story is to serve as something for Silver "hurr durr don't mind the sarcasm I unironically do enjoy penis in the butt" Star to shove his dick in is probably the most objectionable element in a story that is almost exclusively composed of objectionable elements. I am not the only person in either thread to have expressed this view.>When I say "Why are you doing x" or "Could you stop doing x", your response is "No ur doing x uwu".
I've made any number of specific points about your story that I object to, as have other anons. You never respond to specific points, all you do is make vague generalizations, then complain about being unfairly criticized without addressing any of the criticisms.
When someone says: "Your dialogue is weak and unconvincing" you go off on a random rant about leftists and Glimmer. When someone says: "Your narrative is rambling and unstructured, you frequently dump walls of text about unrelated subjects into your narrative, you frequently break the fourth wall to no good purpose, your story has no overarching theme, central conflict, character development, or even a coherent storyline," you start randomly calling everyone names like "Commissar" and "SJW" and flinging words like "transphobia" around, which nobody but you has brought up. I don't know if the issue is that you're incapable of responding to points made or if you simply don't want to acknowledge that points were actually made, but either way it's the behavior of an immature child who can't handle any level of criticism.
>>170256>I was thinking of having her try to hit him with a Cutie Mark remover spell right after she loses their debate, instead of after he pushes her a little by fighting smarter than her, would that improve the story?
See, this right here is exactly what your problem is. You don't know how to improve your story because you don't understand what's wrong with it in the first place. As I've said before, you write like a high school kid. You have no fundamental idea of how to build a story, your idea of constructing a narrative is just "I'll take this character and that character and have them fight" and then go on for pages and pages about how they fight. I really don't give two shits how Silver "you don't need no fancy grease, just get yourself some rump release" Star fights Starlight, or what move Starlight counters him with, or what super-cool-totally-not-ripped-off-from-any-anime-franchise final technique he uses to finish her. If you want to put crap like that into your stories once you've actually learned how to write, go ahead. But learn the fundamentals first. Exposition, rising action, climax, denouement, all that shit. Give the Hero's Journey blueprint a try. George Lucas can't write for shit, but he built a multimillion dollar franchise just by following that plan. Learn how to structure a narrative that isn't a meandering river of autism and learn how to write characters that are moving and convincing. Focus on all the dumb anime battle crap once you've figured that much out.>>3866>Hell, it's OOC for Glimmer to even last half as long as she did in that debate.
Nigel, the reader
can't even make it through half of that debate. I'm surprised Glimmer didn't leave to get a snack halfway through and just let your autistobot OC keep blathering. Cut. It. Down. That debate serves no purpose in your story and nobody wants to read it. Why is this simple concept so hard for you to grasp?
Also, do you even read things before you post them? This post is identical to the one above it with only slight revisions. You do this in your story too; you write a paragraph, then write the same paragraph below it with minor corrections to it. I don't get it, is this something you do consciously or do you just not know how to use your backspace key? You're not writing on parchment here, you can write a block of text, revise it, and then hit post you know.>One more thing, if you think Silver Star Apple is a hypocritical egotistical knight templar cunt it's intentional. He hasn't been through character development yet
Yeah, I get that. See, the problem is, your story goes on for easily twice the length of a regular novel, and from what I gather you're not even past the exposition yet. That's nuts. Nobody is going to want to sit and read something like this for this long with a character that is this unlikable. I get the overall direction you seem to be going with this, that Silver starts off as an asshole and eventually learns friendship or something, but so far we haven't seen him be anything but an asshole. This goes back into what I have told you probably hundreds of times at this point, that you don't know what you're trying to write. You probably have some general thread of a storyline somewhere in that rat's nest of a brain that makes sense to you, but you just write scene after scene after mind numbing, disconnected scene, and it's nothing but Silver "I use bowling balls as anal beads" Star being a complete dick to everyone. There is no other interpretation anyone can reasonably make about this character based on what you've written. >Twilight's still in the "He's so cool and smart, just like the books said he was!" phase.
Why is it a given that she would even be in this phase to begin with? It's as I've said: you either have no respect for Twilight whatsoever or completely fail to understand her character. Twilight is highly intelligent, and since you're writing about her at a post-princess-ascension part of the series timeline, she has a grasp of how social relationships work as well. There is literally no circumstance in which this character would ever behave like the kind of ditzy teenage moron you're writing her as. She would not immediately fall head over hooves for someone who behaves like this much of a self-absorbed asshole; even if she liked him or was attracted to him on some level she wouldn't just fawn all over him like a giddy schoolgirl.
And in any event, any romantic subplot in any
kind of story is only interesting if there is something to develop. There needs to be tension. The two characters need to be different from each other somehow, they need to have friction points, they need to piss each other off. If you start off with a flawless, dashing protagonist and ship him with a girl who is just madly in love with him from the get-go, you have nothing to work with. Nobody cares about it, you've lost the reader's interest. Everything you write just comes off as egotistical dick-fluffing.
Seriously, go on Udemy and shell out the $20, or pounds or euros or whatever you people have, and take a basic class on how to write fiction. Even just learning a few simple, basic things will help you tremendously.
>And yeah, 32k words is a footnote for me. If you think that's bad, wait until you see the Fequestria fic. Hope you don't like Zebras!
One more thing. Word count alone is not something to brag about. You talk about writing 32k words as a footnote like that's something to be proud of. It isn't. I'm going to quote you something I wrote about you earlier:
>32,223 words, 24,535 of which consist of a single scene. The argument scene between Glimglam and Silver "yummy cummy in my tummy" Star accounts for about 76% of this incredibly bloated text. For a point of reference, The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald clocks in at 48,413 words. Do the math. Your autistic pony story, which can be summarized in its entirety as "MC goes on date, talks about himself, robs girlfriend's house, shim shams the Glim Glam (spoiler alert: you can't shim sham the Glim Glam), the end", is approximately 67% the length of one of the most highly regarded novels ever written in the English language. 24,535 words into TGG takes us to roughly the part where Gatsby is showing Daisy his house. In the length of time it takes you to lay out one scene, F. Scott Fitzgerald lays out his exposition, introduces all major characters along with their conflicts and backstories, and is chugging along at a fair clip through the rising action portion of his narrative. That is literally insane.
If you could write quality works of that length, that would be one thing. Some authors just write long novels, it happens. If a novel is good nobody cares how long it is. But usually long novels are long for good reason. Usually it's because there is a lot of complicated plot to go over, or there are a lot of characters doing different things simultaneously (George R.R. Martin comes to mind). Point is, shit is usually happening in long novels that makes them long. Your novel, or story, or whatever you consider this work to be, is really not complicated at all. You brag about writing 32k words, but virtually nothing happens during the entire expanse of those words. Silver goes to a party, he has an argument, the argument turns into a fight, he wins the fight, the end. You don't need 32k words to say all that.
This, once more, goes back to a point I've already made before: that you have no ability to filter what should and what shouldn't be in the text of your story. You go off on tangents constantly throughout what I've read of this work. Your entire argument scene is nothing but huge walls of text comprised of shit you believe about shit that has nothing to do with the FiM universe, and strawman arguments about shit you don't believe that also has nothing to do with the FiM universe, being dumped into quotes and forced into your characters' mouths. The fact that you slap labels like "Equalism" or "Harmonism" on your points to try to awkwardly wedge them into the universe doesn't help any of it one bit. You could literally chop out all 24,535 words of that argument scene and it would not detract anything significant out of your text. Not a single goddamn thing.
Continuing to use the Great Gatsby as a yardstick for measuring the length of this behemoth, if you subtracted 24,535 from the length of the text, starting from the back, you would be left with a story about a man who moves to New York, has dinner with his cousin and her husband, meets the fat chick his cousin's husband is cheating on her with, and goes to a party. It wouldn't even get you to the end of chapter 3. 24,535 words is the bulk of Fitzgerald's story. 24,535 words is a "footnote" of yours. Think about that.
>>3866>As for Glimmer doing evil… I was thinking of having her try to hit him with a Cutie Mark remover spell right after she loses their debate, instead of after he pushes her a little by fighting smarter than her, would that improve the story?>She's a fundamentally lazy villain.
You want to talk about lazy villains? Let's see some lazy, Nigel.You are fucking lazy ass wannabe-writer.
Having her use the removal spell will not improve your story or even that chapter. It does not change a god damn thing about how you havent set her up as a villain. I won't give a shit about your "hurr starlight is already a villain because I say so" low functioning autism because you lack the ability to discern human emotions and neither will anyone else. STOP INSERTING YOURSELF INTO EVERY GODAMN CORNER OF FIM.
It's nauseating how often this happens and it's narcissistic as fuck. The fic is RIFE with it, every. single. chapter. From start to finish.
In Chapter 6 you literally have her show up in a party minding her own business and then your faggot OC attacks her for no reason, wow she's having punch better put a STOP to THAT! The faggot doesnt even know her personally and he has no vendetta against her. You did a shit job on setting up a supposed "hero" and "villain". Starlight's nemesis was Twilight and maybe by association the mane6 would have their own feelings about her since they experienced Our Town. But nobody else on the good side was ever negatively effected by her actions, not even the other princesses and even muh timey-wimey line crap wouldnt actually know it was Starlight that caused it so they arent her enemies either.>When five of the Mane Six critique her ideas on how to "Chill" effectively, she brainwashes them on the spot.
Hmm where have I heard this exact blogpoint before?
Oh yes. From Silver "Witness me! This open full drum of silver paint is going up my ass" Star >“And you spat on it! You smirked at it, stepped on it, and spat on it! Twilight gave you new friends to latch on to, AND YOU BRAINWASHED THEM, because when you wanted to ‘Chill out"
Look at that, he has knowledge about something that happened that he was NEVER PART OF. AND NEVER WOULD KNOW OF, SINCE THEY NEVER TOLD HIM. He only just met the mane6, has never met Starlight until this point and suddenly he's going to start offloading all this trash straight out of your mouth about her personal history which is an impossibility for Silver to know, the only reason it's part of the conversation is so you can get all the autistic screeching about her out at once. He's just YOU and your mouthpiece. He knows about this because you know about this. He's angry about this because you are. One can not separate Silver's cock from your asshole and thats why your story tanks. You are an insufferable sociopath autist, and thus so is Silver.
He isn't part of some made up MLP time-police who's watching past present and future, and punishes people who mess with it. Here is no trial for her crimes at the end of the narutarded fight, it's just a self-absorbed decision he makes on his own thanks to your god complex and the same god complex you gave him because he is just YOU. This is why you reject every single piece of criticism. HE IS YOU. And you cant handle the fact everyone fucking hates Silver because you take it personally.
A non-existent backstory of how Silver rose to power through sucking a magical cock off a genie he found in return for infinite power and wealth, but now he's cursed to be thirsty for more dick. The only one who exists in the current dimension that fits the bill of 'nemesis' for redeemed Starlight is Chryalis after screwing over the hive so she has her. Not your faggy ass OC who has NO HISTORY WITH HER, not even one you decide to make up like your forced history of how Silver 'recognized' Twilight from the magic academy. >Evil Twilight done badly
You criticize it and yet, you arent doing anything better for making Starlight into a better villain. Your idea 'My godly OC removed her ''''universal favoritism'''' so now everyone can hate her like she's meant to be, because I hate her too reeee' and then have a one sided 'debate' over gommunism so she must be evil) is 10 times worse and it's the laziest godamn thing anyone could possibly come up with, it's logic I would expect out of an elementary school kid. But this is someone who thinks copy-pasting Team fucking Rocket who are complete 1-note joke characters is a good villain for MLP instead of coming up with anything original or interesting. A long winded one sided argument of puppets who push the button of autistic sperging about gommunism isnt worth shit as a villain. Your ideas are nothing more than half baked at best, one dimensional cardboard characters or stolen concepts with endless paragraphs of meaningless trival tripe that you think is exposition. Your ideas arent worth shit.
>>3874>In Chapter 6 you literally have her show up in a party minding her own business and then your faggot OC attacks her for no reason
You know what's even more stupid? Take a moment and look at the OP. See a discrepancy here?>Who wants to see a fanfic in which, halfway through chapter one, my donut steel OC debates Glimmer and then kicks her ass when she attacks him?>kicks her ass when she attacks him?>when she attacks him?
It's almost like OP knows starting shit at a party and throwing the first punch isn't exactly a heroic act. And since he won't shut the fuck up about SJWs, YOU KNOW WHO ELSE PUNCHES PEOPLE WITH OPPOSING POLITICAL BELIEFS WITHOUT PROVOCATION IN PUBLIC SETTINGS, NIGEL
Also >debates and then kicks her ass
Last time I checked Nigel he started the encounter with a Shonen Jump punch.
He's trying to reference the point where Starlight is 'seething at how capitalism-pony incarnate is so much better than her.' AFTER he insults everything about her for 20 minutes, and even makes a dig with Starbust so she punches him. AGAIN. ONLY TWILIGHT KNOWS ABOUT HER PAST WITH LOSING SUNBURST. FUCK OFF NIGEL.
Then his shit OC puts some narutist spell on her and 'has a calm debate' on how gommunism is bad. before the full narutoardlet fight breaks out.
It's just as much complete trash as the first time he attacked her out of the blue, and Nigel thinks this is making Silver the 'better pony' who will talk it out. You know AFTER reacting to a single physical punch from her pushing her buttons over and over and reopening wounds withBS knoweldge from the void he couldnt ever know. He reacts to the punch with the threat of INSTANT DEATH. What a hero, totally someone who is worth listening to and getting behind, someone who would ever exist in FiM.>"FOALS get sad when their friends move away, and whether it takes a few days or a few weeks, they eventually GET OVER IT.” Silver explained. “But YOU... you blamed his departure on Cutie Marks, and you let that hate inside you grow and consume you until you wasted your whole life searching for a way to take revenge on the very idea of Cutie Marks...” He smirked. “When you know in your heart that if he cared for you as much as you cared for him, he would have turned that offer down and stayed with you.”>Glimmer punched him in the face, but it was like punching a titanium sculpture. Even the area she’d touched seemed to have been transmuted to metal by some kind of spell, though only temporarily. She chipped her hoof, and screamed.>“I’m invincible when I’m angry,” He explained. “Old Pandarian secret. Did I tell you about the time I skipped my Magic College’s Spring Break party in Las Haygas to study magical secrets all over Neighpon and Pandaland? It’s one of a few neat little tricks I picked up, while learning how to control my rage, so it doesn’t control me. I used to have some issues with that. Here’s another one.”>His horn lit up, and with the accuracy of a Sherrif, he fired a brief, sharp laser at one of the balloons. It pierced right through, but instead of popping the balloon, it remained whole, as if it was a watermelon somepony had shot a laser through. The two holes on either side of the balloon spun and turned black, peeling off the balloon like stickers, leaving unharmed blue rubber behind, and flying through the air like thrown shuriken, before curving and flying at Glimmer. She flipped over a table full of food and used it as a shield, and the holes stuck themselves onto the table, becoming real holes once again.>She sighed in relief.>And then, far faster than before, before she could even react, they turned black again and shot straight at her, sticking to her like the icy hands of death itself and crawling across her body like scuttling insects, until one rested on her right Cutie Mark and one rested on the side of her horn.“All I have to do is think it, and those fake holes turn into real ones,”
Silver explained. “The technique in question is called Eye Of The Needle, a technique from a magical martial arts style the Pandas invented.
Knowing Nigel's track record, this spell is probably stolen from World of Warcraft.
>>3875>attacks her for no reason
Sure, because who would tackle and disarm a known mass-murderer if he didn't also know that mass-murderer had been pardoned?
Didn't he also apologize to her for opening with a takedown, upon learning that she had been pardoned?
If you want to make my story look bad, you should call it unrealistic that he didn't already know about the pardon.
By the way, someone complained about the "The Shining Silver Star of the Apple Family" title.
I get it, and I agree, that's why I changed it to "Silver Star Apple and the Search for More Money, Love, Magic Cards, and the Meaning of Life" a while ago.
Only in your mind, and in your shitty fic>>3878
You can pour syrup on shit, that doesn't make it pancakes
Remember what >>3876
said:>...and even makes a dig with Starbust so she punches him. AGAIN. ONLY TWILIGHT KNOWS ABOUT HER PAST WITH LOSING SUNBURST.
So, he didn't know she got pardoned of her crimes when he was familiar enough with Glimmer's shared home, Twilight's castle, to install a goddamn jacuzzi into it. He didn't know that someone walking free had been pardoned when she was literally living with Twilight Sparkle, Princess of Fucking Friendship.
He either knows Twilight, or he doesn't. Make up your mind, Nigel.
Uh... can you math?>>3880
I thought I'd already implied enough about how the clones and their shared knowledge works, but Twilight was giving him a quick rundown of her entire life's story while this distraction party was happening.
He knew about the shit castle because he went into it earlier in the story. He decided to fix it up because that's how he's used to impressing mares he likes: Big gifts and a charming smile only Twilight is smart enough to see through.
Sure. For example, in the last 4 hours you've uploaded 99 videos to YouTube, 66 of which are WWE2018, consisting of a combined total of just over 2000 minutes - or close to 34 hours - of wrestling video. However, >pic related
was the one that really stood out to me.
If anyone is wondering, the complete title is "PONY SLAMS HOOVES ON PIANO AND ASKS IF YOU'RE BIG ENOUGH">>3834
You really didn't do him justice. I couldn't see all
his videos (my computer doesn't have enough ram) but good god he's as blatantly and completely self-unaware on YouTube as he is in print.
Since it wouldn't be fair to judge him on today's/recent uploads, let's look at his Plague Inc Evolved videos from 3 months ago; 75 videos with 22 combined
views (and note, when you upload a video and watch it yourself, you get 1 view).
This cow has a whole shelf full of milk, ready and in stock.
If Jason worked in the fertizer business, he would have been a made man. He had that decisive reverse Midas touch: Everything he comes in contact with turns immediately to shit.>>3881>>3847
I dont know when this Pseudo Ban notice was added, but suck on that mod slong Jason. Pic related.
>>3881>I thought I'd already implied enough about how the clones and their shared knowledge works, but Twilight was giving him a quick rundown of her entire life's story while this distraction party was happening.
The clones are actually a big part of your problem. Large parts of this story are just difficult to understand because it's hard to tell who's a clone and who's the real Silver. There are multiple places where I had to read over the same section multiple times because I couldn't figure out what was going on; it sounded like Silver was in multiple places at once, then it turns out "oh, it was his clone." The story gets exponentially more complicated according to the number of Silvers there are in any given scene.
And the thing is, the clones are completely unnecessary. The example you give here only proves that you just use them as fix-a-flat to cover your plot holes and to give your character an excuse for being completely omniscient. It's the laziest, most amateurish hack technique you could possibly use to explain away legitimate questions the reader might have. Beyond that it's just another stupid power that he doesn't need to have; get rid of it and your story will improve.>He knew about the shit castle because he went into it earlier in the story. He decided to fix it up because that's how he's used to impressing mares he likes: Big gifts and a charming smile only Twilight is smart enough to see through.
Twilight being smart enough to see through his bullshit must be something you have planned for later in the story, because it doesn't come through at all in what you've written. He's done nothing but bullshit her so far, and she's done nothing but suck his dick.
Its evident from all his "content" that he spends an obscene amount of time playing video games and watching anime, and taking everything he thinks is cool and writing it into Semen Star's Story. I could speculate how he manages so much time (probably not unlike CWC) but I don't even want to go there. In any case, its evident that he is neither creative - plagiarizing everything, and poorly at that - and then like shoving it in everyone's face like a soiled diaper who, when called out for his shitty (literally and figuratively) behavior, accuses his detractors of whatever just-as-valid-as-his-perceived-greatness term he can draw from a very loose and non-comprehensive browsing of reddit, 4chan, and other sites.
Oh, but his reputation and reception is a conspiracy against him, let's not forget.
Can you world build?
Not that I'm defending this fuccboi, but I'll give credit where credit's due: if you go to his uploads and sort by popularity you'll find videos that are actually popular (hard to believe but bear with me). Hell, his most popular vid is an All Star shitpost with 23k views, plus several others that were able to get quadruple digit views. But they're a couple of years old. Why he can't get views like that anymore, who knows, maybe he hasn't adapted to the changing algorithms, maybe it has something to do with the 'throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks' approach to making vids that I mentioned earlier.
I made a video with a thousand views in one month literally just rambling to a webcam about how hard bein' a nerd was and how Gamers must Rise Up. I wasn't even a teenager, I was like 11. I quoted KJ-52's song Revenge of the Nerds as substance for my point.
It's seriously not hard to get a thousand views. Never was.
You got me there, I was looking at his work in the last year since that pertains to his appearance on Mlpol
The clones are there to make his wide arsenal and quickness in obtaining new abilities less impressive. Anyone can become a master at something if they can spend a week pouring over 1000 hours into mastering it, after all.>>3886
Turn your flag back on and tell me if you know what "14x8" is. Then tell me if it's greater than, or less than, fourty. It'll make sense eventually. Sorry about how smug this sounds, I can't think of a nicer way to word it.>>3887
I'm not making money from Youtube and I probably never will, so I upload for fun. The game was rigged from the start, so why stress too hard over it? If I get fame and fortune, I can get political power and make the game less rigged.>>3885
You know, if you word that post differently, do you know what you end up with?
"He plays a lot of video games and watches a lot of anime. He shoves a lot of it into a fanfic he wrote for free. He's mean and he says mean things to people who critique him! He also thinks a group of people who follow him from site to site are following him from site to site."
Scroll up and you'll see one redditor post his own reddit username, while telling someone else to message him there so he can post a link to the Anti-Silver Star Apple Discord Server.
I've been quite nice to actual critics who had something to contribute to the story. But why do the people who complain about the story's genre and fundamental aspects feel entitled to have it rewritten from the ground up to suit them?
You think Silver's too strong? He lost a fight one chapter ago and he'll lose some more fights later on.
You think Twilight's in love with Silver? Give it a minute, he'll fuck it up like the smug autist he is.
You think I share the personality flaws this character has? I don't think I do. My many friends also don't think I do. One friend said I was a bit "Overbearing" in political discussions two years ago, and I respect that guy, so I tried to be less overbearing in political discussions. I chose character flaws from a big-ass list and assigned them to Silver to make him a more interesting protagonist than the typical "Generic human with no character traits goes to Equestria and is loved by all" stories you typically see in the HiE pseudo-Isekai Anime genre.
I don't want to sound pushy, as I'm trying to be a less pushy person. But you're absurdly mad at me for a lot of things that aren't really objectionable at all.
Mind if I check something?
>>3891REPORTED TO THE SOUTH YORKSHIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR INTERNET HATE SPEECH
>>3890>The clones are there to make his wide arsenal and quickness in obtaining new abilities less impressive.
So instead of giving your character every learned ability under the sun, you give your character the ability to clone himself so that different versions of himself can learn every ability under the sun simultaneously and then share the knowledge with each other, and that's supposed to somehow make the whole thing less ridiculous? You honestly believe your character is less of a gigantic, improbable, poorly-written douche because of this? I refuse to believe that even you are this autistic.
The clones are exactly what I said they are: they're a lazy way of explaining away obvious flaws in your story. One of which happens to be: "how could this character become a master of physical combat AND a master of magic AND a master of the sciences AND write 200 books AND communicate with porpoises AND do all the other ridiculous shit he does?" Oh, the answer is he just fucking makes infinite copies of himself and has each copy learn a different thing, well that explains it perfectly doesn't it?
This is the kind of idea a twelve year old would come up with, and a fourteen year old would realize was fucking stupid.>Anyone can become a master at something if they can spend a week pouring over 1000 hours into mastering it, after all.
No, actually they can't. There are literally 168 hours in a week. It is physically impossible to spend more than 168 hours a week doing anything, and that's assuming every single second is devoted to that task; no eating, sleeping or going to the bathroom. Any one of the disciplines Silver "spray my shitter with liquid nitrogen because I want you to literally wreck it" Star is the undisputed master of would take a lifetime to become the undisputed master of. 168 hours a week is nothing. Hell, 1000 hours is nothing.
If you consider that the average person is awake roughly 16 hours per day, 1000 cumulative hours is about 62 days. Could you become a master martial artist in 62 days? A PhD-level scientist? Master the guitar? No, you couldn't.
Even if Silver "lube your fist up with strawberry jam so the next guy to eat my ass gets a tasty treat" Star could clone himself and use his clones to learn things, it would still take them longer than he's been alive to attain the skill level he's at. Even if you want to make him a polymath with ridiculous powers you still have to use at least a modicum of common sense.
>>3889>Yandere Simulator>Sanic>Undertale>Steven Universe>Wrestling>Shit tier normie memes>Mr. Enter>hours upon hours of shit tier gameplay
The absolute state of Jasons Youtube channel. Look at all this autism. If i did not know better id almost think this was secretly Chris Chans. I hated almost all of these things years before i stumbled over you and to know that Jason took time out of his day to make dozens of videos about it is truly the cherry on the shit icecream. How do you even manage day to day life? I recommend you upload a housetour next to educate us on the matter.
I almost didn't bother writing this post to you and I have honestly descided to stop. I gaiin nothing from this futiled exercise.>>3884>Twilight being smart enough to see through his bullshit must be something you have planned for later in the story, because it doesn't come through at all in what you've written. He's done nothing but bullshit her so far, and she's done nothing but suck his dick.
Forshadow that Twi and silver will have a cconflict by having Twi roll her eyes at Silver's
comments othervise we don't expect your story to change after 30,000 words so why stay around to read more?>You think Twilight's in love with Silver? Give it a minute, he'll fuck it up like the smug autist he is.
But I can't read a 30,000 words in a minute. >>3847
It seems that after the mods told him this Nigel has actually begun answering some of our critism.
This is the important part of this post. I am curious what do you, the writer of this story, think of the first chapter? Why did you write it that way? What do you find intresting with it? What do you find enjoyable about this piece?
I was going to write: Exactly. Since I agree with glimglam's post.
>>3890>I've been quite nice to actual critics who had something to contribute to the story.
Your problem is you define "actual critics" as people who tell you things that you're willing to hear. You define "contributions" or suggestions as anything that you can add or change that won't significantly modify what you've already written, or would require any level of serious revision. In short, you believe that your story is basically perfect the way it is and anyone who tells you differently is just a troll or a hater.>But why do the people who complain about the story's genre and fundamental aspects feel entitled to have it rewritten from the ground up to suit them?
I don't personally give a shit what genre you want to write in, or rather I am capable of separating my personal genre preferences from the aspects of your work that make it objectively bad regardless of genre. This is what you're not getting.
If you want to take MLP and turn it into fucking Pokemon-tier shonen manga, then go ahead. I would probably roll my eyes at it and think it was a bad idea, but if you wrote it well I would at least acknowledge that it was written well, even if I didn't personally like it. Your problem is that you don't write well; you don't even write passably.
You don't understand basic, fundamental aspects of what makes a story, literally any story in any genre, good. You don't understand how to avoid the things that make a story, literally any story in any genre, bad. You make common, amateur-hour mistakes: crafting a Mary Sue protagonist, improbable world physics, poor narration techniques, continuity errors, poor characterization, poorly-written dialog, poor narrative structure, leaving spelling errors and typos uncorrected, breaking the fourth wall. You do literally all these things and more. In and of itself that's not a cardinal sin, as most beginning writers make the same mistakes; what is more galling than anything else is that you just ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to acknowledge that these things are flaws. You take the old "it's not a bug it's a feature" mantra to such ridiculous heights even Steve Jobs would be astounded by your pigheaded arrogance.
The reason you have been told, repeatedly, by myself and multiple other anons, to rewrite this story from the ground up, is because if you want to salvage this story, YOU NEED TO REWRITE IT FROM THE GROUND UP. At a minimum it needs heavy, heavy revision and a good chunk of its length truncated.
Whether or not a given artistic work is "good" or has artistic value tends to be a subjective discussion that relies a lot on personal tastes and how one chooses to define both "art" and "good". However, an objectively bad artistic work is easy to spot and is pretty much universally identifiable. I will demonstrate.
I've attached three images to this post. Pic 1 is a piece of erotic MLP fan art. Whoever drew this has obvious technical skill; this is not the kind of image an absolute amateur could sit down and reproduce. Whether or not there is any artistic value to it depends on your definition of artistic value. In this case, the artist can be said to objectively have technical skill; the artistic value of the work produced, however, is subjective.
Pic 2 is Convergence by Jackson Pollock. People have been arguing over whether or not there is any artistic value to this for decades. People have also been arguing over whether or not Pollock had any technical skill. I for one would say that whoever painted Derpy's vagina probably had more technical skill than Pollock, but at the same time you probably won't see erotic Derpy paintings hanging in an art museum any time soon (Sad!). In short, both the technical quality and the artistic value of this work are subjective.
Pic 3 is an illustration by Christian Weston Chandler. From both a technical and an artistic perspective, it is objectively bad. There is no irony or parody in this work; this is literally as good as he can draw. There is no room for interpretation here, this artist has no skill whatsoever. The artistic value of the work is also objectively nonexistent. There is no message or meaning to this, it's just a poorly-rendered drawing of some autistic kid's fantasy. You don't even need to put this much thought into it to see that it's bad; most people would just look at this and tell you it's bad. Quality art is subjective to some extent, but bad art is objective and universally recognizable.
Pic 3 is your work, Nigel, whether you want to admit it or not. You will never improve until you can read what you've written and understand why it is objectively bad. It has nothing to do with your choice of genre, or even your overpowered, arrogant ass of an OC. Silver Star could probably be turned into an interesting character in the hands of a competent writer; the problem here is that you are not a competent writer. My advice (even though I know you won't take it) is to rip this thing to shreds, learn to write, and then try it again when you've improved somewhat.
>>3894>Time out of his day
Again, I reference the 34ish hours of wrestling videos he recently posted; that's more that just 'time out of his day.
As for that list, those are his 'popular' videos. The overwhelming bulk of his 5000+ vids are a graveyard of "No Views", and what videos do
have views are either reposts of existing videos and songs, poorly mashed together songs that have no business being mashed together (his ear is as refined as is his pen), and yes those video game videos.>manage everyday life
I'm not sure if that comment is directed at me or not, but I'll bite. I'm currently on an extended vacation, preparing to start a personal business. A house tour is out of the question, but I'll be happy to provide how-to videos as my business partner and I build our workshop.
the request for a housetour video was adressed at Jason, my apologies. I should have worded that better. But if you think making how to videos about your new workshop business would be of interest, go ahead. >>3897
I dont think you can point out to Jason more clearly with obvious means how his writing is perceived without beating him over the head with a stack of papers.
>>3897>but at the same time you probably won't see erotic Derpy paintings hanging in an art museum any time soon (Sad!)
I'd settle for a monument being erected (no pun-intended) in Bubble Butt's honor.
I'm curious, what would you prefer that my youtube channel be? Minecraft? Fortnite? Schut Games? Please keep in mind that you're talking to a "Poorfag" here, someone who can't afford the latest shit without a lot of saving and/or commission work.>>3895
I answered some criticism a lot earlier in the thread. I could scroll up and find it if you want, but this is a big thread so it might take a while to find.
I think the first chapter is a bit dry, but I needed to establish who and what Silver is before he met the ponies. Too many writers forget to make their OC a person outside of the mane six and what they think of him, y'know? Also Silver insults that "The supposedly smart character repeatedly insults someone to show off how smart he supposedly is" trope. How different he acts around each of the three groups once he's separated them with walls is also a character trait I wanted to establish early on.>>3897>Your problem is you define "actual critics" as people who tell you things that you're willing to hear
I stopped reading there. I'm sure it'll make you happy to hear that, because it strengthens the "Silver is mean and evil and dumb and that's why he doesn't think my criticism is cool and that's why he's mean and evil" narrative you also tried to push in that fimfic thread I got banned for complaining about. But I've read you saying the same shit multiple times in this thread between posts in which I respond to actual critics quite nicely, so I guess it all balances out.
You're saying I don't listen to any critics unless they're sucking my cock. But have the critics I've talked to and given the time of day in this thread been sucking my cock? My cock doesn't feel very sucked.
You're just mad because I'm not listening to your criticism. As for why...
I'm honestly getting a bit tired of people who think "This story is shit, stop writing it! You're the worst writer ever and you're worse than/just as bad as Chris-Chan! You're gay AIDS and your OC likes penis in his ass! Downvoted lmao!" is the height of literary criticism.
When I showed you a pic on how to get better at criticism, what did y'all respond with? I should have just written /thread there, it would have been funny. And because that's the thread you want to turn this into. You want to throw shit at me until it sticks. You want to call me bad words until people who didn't read the whole thread just assume that where there's smoke (even if it is coming from liberal ears), there must also be fire. You feel entitled to enjoy everything you see and click and consume, even the stuff bored people make for free. And you're trying to make me out to be some kind of horrendous monster because you really, really, really didn't enjoy the pony fanfic I wrote for fun.
I'm just some youtuber. I'm just some writer. I'm just some content-creator, and artist. I'm not any of the things many famous people in this fandom are. I'm honestly kind of boring.
From what you've said to me so far, I don't think my writing would improve if I took your bitching and word salad pseudo-criticism "It fundamentally fails as a suspicious person truncated world physics story! Also you are LITERALLY HITLER AND TRIGGERING ME WITH YOUR AGGRESSIVE AND STANDOFFISH BEHAVIO - wait no I'm on a nazi site - YOU ARE LITERALLY THIS EGOTISTICAL TRANSGENDER NERD NOBODY PRESENT LIKES!" nonsense all that seriously. You want to seem like a critic, but you don't want to be a good or helpful one. You're just in this game because lazy criticism is easy. You're saying bad things about my fic because you didn't personally like it, and that makes you mad, and I make you mad.
I make you very, very mad. I'm not really sure why, since if I'd done anything to seriously offend you on that pony site you got me banned from by sucking admin cock(nice projection btw), you would have posted screenshots of that. You're mad, without a reason to be mad, and you're looking for a reason to be mad at me anywhere you can find it. You and your friends went through my Youtube videos, my DeviantArt pictures... Hell, I'm surprised nobody posted that absurdly-buff Akira pic I once made after losing a bet, leaving the context behind it out while trying to claim I'm some kind of weird fetishist for muscular men.
Your criticism isn't valid.
I don't believe all criticism is invalid, that's just something you've told yourself to soften the blow to your ego. I've listened to you, and that's why I don't think continuing to listen to you would help me improve as a writer.
You're not a good critic. I've seen youtube commenters who are better at criticizing things.
You're mad at me and you want me slandered and torn down like the leftist you are, and all it took to trigger this rage was for me to post a fanfic you personally don't like.
But if you didn't personally like my fanfic, well... So what? I wasn't paid to make a product you'd like. If I was, then sure, you'd have a reason to be this mad over pony fanfic horse words. But you didn't like my fanfic, and that's okay. You aren't really supposed to, because you aren't in its target audience. I'm trying to write MLPFIM as an action cartoon while also trying to preserve its core messages and themes better than nu-fim did when it decided it wanted to exclusively pander to you. It isn't supposed to be one of those excessively-upvoted HiE fics where the human is some bland guy you can project yourself as, or one of those short and shitty non-story scenes that exist to make normies shallowly feel cliche feels. This isn't some Nested Reddit Comment Chain in Fanfic form, like the "Semen Series" or the "Would it matter if I was" series. This isn't some mass-market story, this is the story of Silver and the Mane Six.
>>3901https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n_1zsCVBxw>I stopped reading there.>My cock doesn't feel very sucked.>You're just mad>You want to seem like a critic, but you don't want to be a good or helpful one.>You're mad, without a reason to be mad,>hat pony site you got me banned from by sucking admin cock>Your criticism isn't valid.>like the leftist you are,>you aren't in its target audience.>this is the story of Silver and the Mane Six.
I don't know what you mean; criticism should be:
3. Provide a next step.
What's math got to do with this?
Is this more nonsense about you overblowing one fag from a site for fags following you onto a different site, also for fags? Because you seem awfully obsessed with making that sound like it was multiple people following you 'across multiple sites.'
-and how does leddit factor into all of this anyway? People sharing leddit usernames? Where? Provide the proofs.
>>3901>inb4 "stopped reading there">what should my YouTube be?
Its not a matter of what it should be, its assessing what it is. Being a poorfag doesn't preclude one from making content that people actually want
to consume, rather than just recording what one is doing
and assuming (hoping) that people want to consume it. The same goes for your Fic. If you make something decent, I'll personally
support your work, but I/others don't pay for trash, though we do pay to have it removed.>criticism
Yeah, I was the guy who gave you ideas about how to give Silver weaknesses that would necessitate the participation of the Mane without making them retarded shadows of their original character. I'm still waiting btw. I did warn you, I am an asshole. ^_~>Silver is mean and dumb
Not mean, just dumb. Seriously though, its not a narrative, its evident fact.>You're [all] just dumb
More deflections, par for the course I guess.>Nice criticism
This is a good point, but not for the reasons you think it is. Have you ever read an article or a post or an editorial by a professional critic? They're not constructive, they're about calling out the failings; what the recipient does with the criticism is their
business, not that of the critic. The job of a critic is to thoroughly assess something from a position of expertise, familiarity, and authority, and Glim Glam has done that in spades, yet I doubt you've read more than the first two words. As far as the 'friendliness', did you expect other/special treatment cuz there's the underlying theme of FiM? You obviously missed the underlying /pol/ theme. Also, there are plenty (most, especially of those who are paying attention) who would be happy if you did
/thread, but that wouldn't feed into your narcissism, would it?>I'm just some youtuber/writer/'content'-'creator'/artist
In all legitimacy, you should put a "really bad" in front of all that; such a realization would immediately help to improve your work, but you won't do that cuz reasons.>Word salad
There's that absent self-awareness you've been repeatedly criticized for.
I'm gonna jump around a bit, please bear with.>Your criticism isn't validsigh>You're not a good critic
Since you can't differentiate between good writing and bad, it stands to reason that you would likewise be unable to distinguish between good criticism and bad.>want me slandered
Is it slander to present your
work and allow people to reach their own conclusions? No one is required to agree with the criticisms levied, and yet everyone seems to. Must be slander, it couldn't possibly be cuz there's merit to the criticisms. Carry on, mightiest of authors.>better than nu-fim
There it is, your one-armed man. This explains your beef with Glimmer, your self-inserting, and the piss-poor narrative explanations and justifications. You're trying to single-handedly right/write
the wrongs of the last few seasons of FiM. The trouble is, you're observably (and painstakingly, as evidenced by Glim Glam) not qualified to do so in a manner that will appeal to anyone
.>I wasn't paid to
I addressed this point. As an amateur, you don't get to demand payment, you have to at least provide a prototype in order to appeal to 'buyers', and your existing work is so lacking that I can't even.>Not the target audience
While I'm sure you stopped reading long before (or will at least posture as though you had), pray tell: who is
your target audience?>Nested Reddit comment chain
You're right. It isn't FiMfic, nor reddit, nor deviantart, nor some blog that you have any claim over. You're an anon just like everyone else, except you want extrua-spesial treatement cuz you vomit words into a computer or mobile far longer than you should given your competence at writing. You're not entitled, and the more you try to act like you are/should-be, the more you will be shit on. Cuz its shit, and even those - self included - who wade through it are doing so to spare others from the trouble of doing so. How many who have
read chapters of yours complain of needing therapy, detox, decompression, or other maladies?
Lastly>I've done nothing to offend you
Oh, that's where you're most
wrong, AND you're first mistake. You're doing it now, and you've been doing it since you first felt entitled to "grace" the site with your filth. You fucked off for a while, and it was nice, but like a bad case of herpes (which I'm not the first to make that comparison) you keep coming back, more virulent than ever. You've inherited the wind so to speak, try not to cry too much about it.
>>3901>I'm curious, what would you prefer that my youtube channel be? Minecraft? Fortnite? Schut Games? Please keep in mind that you're talking to a "Poorfag" here, someone who can't afford the latest shit without a lot of saving and/or commission work.>I'm a poorfag, so of course I have to be a Sonic fan, diamond-miner, Undertale fan, Steven Jewniverse fan, WWE fan, YanSim fan, and follower of the cult of Mr. Enter
Show me the line we're supposed to draw here. You think that being a poorfag necessitates having shit taste in games - some of which are a waste of money might I add?>someone who can't afford the latest shit without a lot of saving and/or commission work>people pay you to write and/or draw
I guess if Virus-20 can have paying fans, anything is possible...
>>3903>not just giving him his stupid math answer
Now he's going to proclaim that you're a glimmerbot out to exterminate him for the glory of mother Russia. One step forward, two steps back.
>>3890>Anyone can become a master at something if they can spend a week pouring over 1000 hours into mastering it, after all.First of all, you are so fucking stupid you dont know that the rule is 10,000 hours to become proficient, not 1000
so way to go fucking that big detail up. Secondly this is a make believe fantasy for those who dont want to improve and ignore the second half of this. That the 10,000 hours only works when putting yourself to the grindstone, with dedication to that practicing and improving that skill, sacrificing something else. Anything else doesnt hold up to reality. And third it doesnt excuse YOUR BAD WRITING of having your OC a master of every subject you can think of.
It doesnt take very long to learn a new skill starting from scratch, provided you set some time aside for it every day or at least every week, [i]however it can still take 6-10 years to become semi-pro at whatever you seek out to do (sometimes 4 if you are obsessive about practicing and improving that specific skill) for many people depending on the skill it will take their whole life to really become a master and got an early start through childhood upbringings. Because NEWSFLASH there is always ways to improve, learning from different perspectives and teachers and peers. ONLY the ones who will become the new masters will seek out to climb to the top of the mountain with refining their craft to an edge while everyone else settles for something less impressive. Just how old is this irritating shitstain of an OC? You've made him more accomplished than Starswirl, with none of the age that would be required for even one 20th of his abilities, all so he can be a 'stud' for your waifu pillowsack. Just fuck you Nigel.
Do you know how FIM works nigger? You get one thing you excel at and that's defined by the cutiemark. What exactly is Silver's cutiemark talent that he's refining other than the art of rubbing himself out in front of every pony in the room. If you say "Magic" then congratulations, you've given the exact same vague answer as what Starlight's talent is, that lets her do what she does with magic higher than other ponies like the Princesses. And yet she doesnt have complete mastery over every subject, her hobby is pretty mundane, she isnt world famous, and her super-magic (which has a long history of backfiring on her) is still not even half the level of bullshit that Silver can do.
You've created a Starlight that has no flaws in his super magic, with no limitation, for no good reason. Nothing backfires on him and he has no reason to change morally because no one points out he's a an insufferable fuck, ever. You're trying to force the reader to love him because you're obsessed with yourself. If you are going into this fic expecting that you can hand wave everything off about Silver "80th time champion grandmaster in dildo riding" Star and everything else under the sun because muh 1000 hours then you are one of the most retarded people on the planet. This explains why you think you're a professional when you're fucking shit at writing Nigel, and you are self-inserting AGAIN into your OC.
How many hours have you spent dedicated to writing? How many of those years have you done ANYTHING besides increase your vocabulary? Your writing skills are hot garbage. Have you learned or practiced anything anything about pacing, dialog or character development? Do you have no grasp on how to write a good plot? Do you know how to build tension? Can you maintain the suspension of belief? Can you come up with unique and interesting ideas? Do you know how to do good world building, or what that even entails?
The answer to all of the above is NO. This is just long winded wish-fulfillment.>Atrocious characterization forcing in a literalwho to everyones face, as an insult to the canon characters.>All characters - background ponies or otherwise are nothing more than blank slate sock puppets with no actual personality or depth.>An easymode life for the godly unlikable main character, the most boring OC of all time who wins at everything.>He has a time dilatation spell AND can clone himself, so clearly he can be a master at everything without any sacrifices. FiM machinations be damned.>No conflict and no inciting incident because everyone is cardboard cutouts to cheer on a self insert. >Strawman villains that are nothing more than more blogpoint targets.>The pacing grinds to a halt with another episode of egotistic rambling about whatever your OC is doing or saying.>What small semblance of a plot is killed off, suffocated for more of your self insert going off on tangents nobody reading gives a fuck about.>Plagiarized ideas from animu regurgitated onto FiM and even plagiarizing FiM directly, warped and twisted to fellate yourself.>Skipping over important details leaving gaping plotholes in the work, because it's not about your OC so you cant get a stiffy while typing.
See, Nigel doesn't understand the value of his time and effort. His shadow clones are a perversion of the naive desire to have endless time and energy to do all he wishes and be the master of all trades, because he doesn't understand the true value of a division of labor and specialized talents.
Ironically, MLP itself has an entire magical system that is dedicated to individual talents and specialization, so Nigel's going out of his way to toss that aspect of the show he pretends to understand aside. Kill yourself Nigel, this is your mindset.
Good job conflating the two things that confuse you.
If I really have to say it outright, Glimmer had more stolen Cutie Marks in her town than she had ponies with stolen Cutie Marks. Her Cutie Mark storage wall was also full, so I guess it was a good thing for her that she had jars for the six extra ponies who showed up in her town, and I guess it's a good thing that even though over 100 ponies showed up to her town and either left without their marks or killed themselves after an overdose of Commie shaming tactics at some point during her life, the Mane Six were the first ponies to ever put her Cutie Mark storage wall over capacity.
As for your personalities, you feel entitled to be treated more than two times nicer than you treat me, regardless of how valid your criticism is outside of your own head. I don't take your "It's shitty poopoo and Silver likes cock in his ass" mouth confusion seriously, so you need to go on pretending that I am everything you virtue-signal about hating.
>>3909>ponies killing themselves
>>3901>I stopped reading there.
That's about what I've come to expect from you. You sure give a pretty wordy response for someone who didn't read what I wrote.>I've read you saying the same shit multiple times in this thread between posts in which I respond to actual critics quite nicely, so I guess it all balances out.
Speaking of saying the same shit over and over, this wall of text is really just your usual boilerplate response to any level of serious criticism from anyone: you complain that people are being too mean to you to deserve a response, you dismiss all criticism as ad-hominem attacks without addressing any of the points being made, and you insinuate that all your critics are just trolls who follow you around from site to site. Yawn.
In any event, I make the same points over and over because you never seem to grasp any of them, and all of them are perfectly valid points. I'm not going to bother restating them here; however, I will remind you that I am still going through your entire opus line by line in the other thread and addressing, quite specifically, everything I think is wrong with your writing. You are free to read or respond, or you can ignore me, or you can continue to be a whiny sperg; it's entirely your choice. At this point I'm not doing this for you, I'm doing this for myself and others on the site.
For anyone else reading this who, unlike Nigel, has an actual interest in improving their craft as a writer, I would actually recommend doing what I've been doing. If you read a particular piece and find that you absolutely hate it or absolutely love it, it is quite helpful to give it a thorough analysis, pull it apart and explore exactly what you like or don't like and why you love/hate it. It gives you an insight into your own writing and what sorts of elements you should include or exclude, and in particular what sorts of common mistakes that writers make that you can watch out for.>I'm honestly getting a bit tired of people who think "This story is shit, stop writing it! You're the worst writer ever and you're worse than/just as bad as Chris-Chan! You're gay AIDS and your OC likes penis in his ass! Downvoted lmao!" is the height of literary criticism.
Your words, not mine. In any case, I've given you ample reasons as to why your story is, quite objectively, shit and why you are, quite objectively, a bad writer. You can either choose to listen and improve, or continue to keep writing the way you do and keep getting shit on by probably anyone you show your work to. I know you think I've got some kind of vendetta against you but I really don't have a dog in this fight one way or the other; I'm doing this partly as an exercise for myself and partly because it's funny. The fact that I've actually given you some pretty good advice on how to improve your craft is just a bonus, although I know you won't see it that way.
As to the CWC comparisons, again these comparisons are made because they are objectively accurate. You behave in the same way that CWC does. Your body of work revolves around similar themes and is of comparable quality. You both rip off Sonic the Hedgehog and Pokemon and pretend it's original work. You both refuse to see flaws in your own work and dismiss anyone who doesn't like it as a troll. You are literally CWC with a British flag.>When I showed you a pic on how to get better at criticism, what did y'all respond with?
We appropriately made fun of you for it, because the pic just shows how completely dense and incapable of self-reflection you really are. You basically just complain that we're not being nice enough to you. We're not obligated to be nice to you, and we're not obligated to like your work.
You keep using the word "entitlement" in your responses, as if we are the people who are behaving like we're entitled to something. You are the one who actually has this attitude. You are the one who seems to feel that he is entitled to have his story read and enjoyed, and that anyone who doesn't like it can either criticize you on your terms or they can fuck off. This is bullshit. Early on in my objective analysis of your work in the other thread, I wrote a post on "Blaming the Audience" that I really do think you should read.
You are the OP of both threads that you're getting shit on in. We didn't seek out this pile of dreck you wrote, seek you out and start harassing you for it. You posted it here, twice, begging for attention and views. We gave you our opinions, you didn't like what you heard, so you started sperging out and it escalated from there.>My cock doesn't feel very sucked.
That's probably because it's chaffed raw from you continuously stroking it.>And you're trying to make me out to be some kind of horrendous monster because you really, really, really didn't enjoy the pony fanfic I wrote for fun.
There's Nigel's famous persecution complex again. I've never called you a horrendous monster, I've called you a bad writer, because you are. I've accused you of writing a bad fanfiction, because you did. I've said your OC is horrid, because he is. I've offered substantial proof of all these points, again if you'd like to try to rebut any of them I'll gladly hear you out.>I'm just some youtuber. I'm just some writer.
Only one of those statements is accurate.>You're saying bad things about my fic because you didn't personally like it, and that makes you mad, and I make you mad.
I've gone over this enough times already. You're right that I don't personally like your fic, but that's not the central issue here. The things that are objectively wrong with your fic transcend personal opinion; whatever else it is, it's poorly written. I could probably address the same issues I've already addressed without the sarcasm and gay jokes, but frankly you've given me no reason to do so. You'll get "nice" criticism when you write something that warrants it, and can approach this community with an understanding that we don't have to care.
A few more points then I'm done. Because I too can churn out thousands of words.>Your criticism isn't valid.
My criticism is perfectly valid. You just don't like it, because it isn't what you want to hear. Again, if you want to try and actually refute any of my points rather than just fling broad insults and conspiracy theories about "leftists" and people following you around from other sites, I'm all ears.>I don't believe all criticism is invalid, that's just something you've told yourself to soften the blow to your ego. I've listened to you, and that's why I don't think continuing to listen to you would help me improve as a writer.
As usual, you're projecting. My ego isn't the one getting beat to shit here, Nigel. I really don't care if you want to take my advice or not; you asked, or rather begged, /mlpol/ to read your shitty fanfiction and give you notes on it. We did, and you got pissy because it wasn't what you wanted to hear. Eventually you got so pissy that I decided to take it upon myself to give it a complete roto-rooter rectal examination and lay out exactly what's wrong with it in plain terms, no punches pulled. The project, believe it or not, has actually been fun, and as I've said at this point I really don't care if you're even reading my advice, let alone following it. Whether your writing actually improves is on you; I have no stake, these are just my thoughts. >I wasn't paid to make a product you'd like.
Of course you weren't. If I'd paid you I'd be demanding my money back; we all would. You're doing this for free, I'm doing this for free. The difference between us is, I'm enjoying myself and arguably producing something of value.>You're not a good critic. I've seen youtube commenters who are better at criticizing things.
Aw, that just hurts my feelings. *sniff*>You aren't really supposed to, because you aren't in its target audience.
Blaming the audience again. "You don't get it." "It wasn't written for you." "You clearly don't understand it." I'll say it again, Nigel: you don't pick your audience, your audience picks you. If you submit something you've created to be consumed and evaluated by someone else, that person is your audience. They don't have to like it or tell you they did. If the audience doesn't like your work, it isn't their fault for not understanding it; it's your fault for not communicating what you wanted to communicate. If you're just writing for yourself or your friends, then you don't need an audience at all and criticism doesn't matter. But if that's the case then why show it to total strangers, who have no reason not to take a giant shit on it if it's bad? Why post it here if we weren't in your target audience? You're just talking out of your ass and projecting as usual. If you don't have something worth showing to anyone, keep it to yourself. If you ask for criticism, be prepared to take it.>I'm trying to write MLPFIM as an action cartoon while also trying to preserve its core messages and themes better than nu-fim did when it decided it wanted to exclusively pander to you.
See, I get that that's what you're trying to do. What I'm trying to explain to you is that you fail to accomplish it. Ironically, as much as you shit on "nu-fim" and it's writers, you actually make a lot of the same mistakes that they do. You inject silly and improbable elements into the world to try and make it more interesting (to you, at least), you attempt to awkwardly wedge a Mary Sue original character into the main cast, you ignore the elements of the show that made it great in the beginning and focus instead on trying to warp it into your own personal Frankenstein creation. You don't write any of the characters well or even convincingly. Where the original series was envisioned to be a show about close friends going on adventures together, you attempt to exaggerate the "adventure" component to the level of epic fantasy while downplaying the "friendship" component until you just have a bunch of cardboard cutout characters who are neither interesting nor believable. Somehow, the OC character, who you put more effort into than any of the others, is the most poorly written, unsympathetic, and unbelievable of them all. In any case, nothing you've constructed resonates emotionally, and most of your "action" and "adventure" themes are too over-the-top and improbable to be taken seriously.
In the words of Lois Griffin: "This isn't art, this isn't even entertainment. This...blows.">It isn't supposed to be one of those excessively-upvoted HiE fics where the human is some bland guy you can project yourself as, or one of those short and shitty non-story scenes that exist to make normies shallowly feel cliche feels.
Lol now who's bitching about genres they don't like? In any case, what this story isn't supposed to be is beside the point; you completely fail to make it into what you claim that it is. You like action and ebin fight scenes better than feels? Fine, write about what interests you. You'd rather use an obnoxious self-insert OC than a blank-canvas projection-ready empty-template human character? Okay, you're the author; all that is up to you. That doesn't mean you have an excuse to just throw characterization and plot and narrative structure out the window and just write one long, rambling stream of autism about fights and magic.
I mean, come on. Criticism of "shitty, non-story scenes" from the guy who expended 30k+ words on a scene where two characters argue? The guy who padded a scene where his character flies from his office to the building across the street into about two pages worth of play-by-play narration? The guy who randomly dumps walls of text explaining world physics into block quotes and puts it in their characters' mouths?
You get to criticize the style preferences of others when you produce something of value yourself; until then, focus on getting your own house in order.
Well then where did the extra Cutie Marks come from? She's got over a hundred severed heads- I mean severed marks in her creepy room, in her creepy fancy customized and marked cutie mark container literally got so full she had to keep the marks of the mane six in jars...
I know suicide is horrendously dark and it doesn't fit the tone of MLP at all. But neither does a commie shame village. Ponies either ran away from her town without their marks and became hobos, ran away without their marks and got eaten by monsters, died in her town, got killed for uncovering the secret of her town, killed themselves, got turned into appliances and shit, or got so depressed and turned so grey that they turned to dust.
And if that's reaching, what's >>3908
"He forgot a zero so he doesn't get *rolls dice* time and effort and he should die" over here?
Also Silver's Cutie Mark is Connections. There are a lot of connections you can make with the concept of connections and a lot of things you can do with it(Good thing he comes from a world that doesn't know what nukes are), so it's basically the best mark possible outside of anything garish like an infinity symbol or Betterness or "Super Duper Mega Magic".>>3911
I don't see all criticism against my story as pointless. I see criticism of me as a bit pointless, since most of this site's users have just met "me" and there are people in this thread trying to misrepresent me. Nobody here knows about the regular trips I make to the local-ish charity store, or the charity shit I did in my youth, or those two guys whose lives I saved when I was younger, or that one suicidal guy I talked out of suicide(He's better now), or any of the other good stuff I've done. And I don't really like talking about myself, or defending myself from personal attacks on this level. I'd rather advertise my work instead. Besides, there's a good chance I'm actually two or three people working in tandem and everything everyone has said about me is bullshit.
Anyway, I read the critique of my work and the proper criticism is valid. If I'll improve as a writer by reading it, it's valid. I'm actually considering going back and doing that "Make Pinkie and Dash approach Silver before the party" bit someone talked about. Even though it'll make the "Silver gasps and loves the cute Pinkie, weirding everypony else out" scene less surprising. I'm also thinking of toning down Silver's abilities, he was supposed to be the "I have a lot of weakish moves and I know how to use them creatively, I'll turn around the ground under your hooves and that lamppost is now my trebuchet, I love going in with a plan and thinking on the fly when it doesn't work" to Twilight's "I have a lot of power and formal education, I love planning".
Also, "Your audience choses you"? Lolwut? Have you "chosen" me? Is that why you wish I was what you wish you chose instead of what I am? I get that you're trying to ironically quote a reversed bit from my story when Silver talked about selling shit, but dude, no. I choose my target audience when I make the fic, it's people who want to see Twilight and friends kick some ass. Individual people can choose whether they click my fic or not, sure, and they can decide for themselves if they like it or not, but individual people can't decide what my fic should be. Though they're welcome to offer advice on how it can be made better at what it's trying to be.
I get that you don't like it when writers "Clap back" to some of their critics, but... well, if you want to talk about something so shit even its creators won't argue with anything bad you say about it, shit on Fallout 3.
Seriously, that game's so bad, Bugthesderp shat on some of the dumbest parts of it just to try and please FNV fans in Fallout 4, even though that isn't how that works at all.
>>3913>extra cutie marks
It couldn't possibly be cuz they were busy doing other things, or a variety of other mundane explanations, no certainly not, it must be murder most foul right?>so it's basically the best mark possible outside anything garish
For one, there you go again trying to make Semen Star the 'best evar'. For two, you wouldn't know garish if you wrote it out in over 100k words, cuz you have and you haven't.>charity shit I did in my mouth
Sorry, that's just how I read it at first. I'm sure you'll think that's freudian or something, but I had to retrieve my sides so I'm chalking it as a win.>I helpeded people! I are gud!
We should compare notes sometime. Spoiler alert, you're outclassed.>I don't like talking about myself
Clearly>I'd rather advertize my workClearly>I'll tone down Semen Star
I hope so, I truly hope so>"Your audience choses you"? Lolwut? Have you "chosen" me? Is that why you wish I was what you wish you chose instead of what I am?
That's precisely it. You won't go away, you won't stop, so the only recourse is to try and get you to stop being such a faggot (read: learn to write compellingly so that our forced suffering isn't so insufferable). We're not here to talk about Fallout 3, and while you may intend
your audience to be "a particular group", for one I'd love to see the Mane kick (Silver's) ass and for two you're here bothering us
. Whatever you intended, you're shilling this shit to us
; naturally you're going to get our opinions. Don't like it? And the hoers you rode in on.
>>3913>cutie mark container literally got so full she had to keep the marks of the mane six in jars…
Evidently you never actually watched the episode, they were placed in the giant iphone at first, she only had them removed and put in jars later.
Just gonna add on to this, Nigel is only correct in that there are more cutie marks stored than ponies we see in the town, at least from a cursory glance at the episodes, that's if we assume the entire town takes part in the musical number. Pictured here is the cutie vault with 8 columns and 14 rows giving us a total of 112 slots for cutie marks, there are 13 unused slots, giving us 99 cutie marks before Twiggles and friends get themselves Spear of Longinus'd. Unfortunately, I'm nowhere near autistic enough to go through both episodes to figure out exactly how many ponies we see in the town.
Haha! That was only one leaf-anon commenting on your impoliteness and wanting to have a civil and polite discussion with you about your work in return for how he was treating you.
Wanting others to treat you how you're treating them doesn't sound as asinine as you somehow manage to make it sound.
The only one spewing retarded mouth confusion here is (you).
I myself don't give a fuck how you treat me, I don't care either way because it changes nothing, and next time, consider taking your criticism to the right person.
Do you actually have children? Because I don't think you even have a wife.
>>3913>I'm actually considering going back and doing that "Make Pinkie and Dash approach Silver before the party" bit someone talked about. Even though it'll make the "Silver gasps and loves the cute Pinkie, weirding everypony else out" scene less surprising.
Definitely a good idea. Part of the reason it helps to have other people read your work is because they can provide insight that wouldn't occur to you. When you are the author of something, the story is already in your head and when you go back and read it, you automatically envision it the way you want to see it. Your mind fills in a lot of the blanks, and things that come across as weird or awkward to a reader don't always register in your mind as such. Remember, writing is the process of taking what's in your head and laying it out so that others can see it the way you do. If other people are consistently giving you impressions of something you wrote that are way off base from what you intended, it's a good indicator that it can use a rewrite, or at least some tweaking.>I'm also thinking of toning down Silver's abilities
Also a good idea. As I read further into this I'm beginning to get an idea of what you're trying to do with Silver, but what I'm trying to explain is that it's just not working out quite the way you'd like it to. There are steps you can take to fix this.
One thing that it might behoove you to remember is that most action protagonists of the sort you're trying to write here don't start out with all their powers. I remember years ago I was watching Inuyasha at one of the later points in the series, where he had a bunch of crazy powers attached to his sword, and my stepbrother who had never seen the show was watching with me, and commenting on how stupid it was that he was so powerful. I had to explain that this was about a hundred episodes or so in and he had spent most of the series going through trials to acquire these powers.
His reaction is similar to the way I and most others on this site are reacting to Silver, because a character who starts off with a huge number of powers and can easily defeat most foes isn't interesting to read about, and can come across as obnoxious, especially when you also write him as being excessively arrogant. In the case of Inuyasha (I don't know if you've ever seen it but I don't watch a lot of the type of anime you usually reference; I'm afraid IY is the closest thing I've watched extensively) he starts out as a character with above-average strength and fighting ability, but still relatively weak compared to where he ends up later on. He gains most of his abilities over the course of the series. This is generally the preferred way to do these things.
My personal recommendation for Silver would be to reduce his powers down to a reasonable, mortal level. It's okay to have him be above average, even extremely talented, in maybe one or two areas. But you have to leave him room to grow and improve himself; otherwise what's the point of the story? If I were writing it I would give him a sense of strong business acumen, but make him less excessively rich. Make him an up and comer in the business world who hasn't quite made it yet. I'd make him maybe a magic prodigy in the same way that Twilight was at the beginning of the series, but not a hugely accomplished magician. Maybe give him one or two tricks that he's really good at and uses often to show off (the portal trick could actually be kind of a fun one), but dial it back to where he's got a lot to learn yet. I'd still recommend eighty-sixing the clone ability, but if you want to keep it at least don't have him start off with it, make him earn it.
His being the author of 200+ books is beyond excessive, maybe make him a prodigy with an interesting backstory who wrote maybe one somewhat successful book. He took the profits from the book and invested them into opening a magic shop or something. The magic shop was successful so he turned that into a chain. He's successful while still being believable, which humanizes (poninizes?) him and makes him more accessible to the reader. This buys you credits you can use to make him more of a dick in other ways if that's what you want. Maybe his poor upbringing made him ambitious to the point where he's not above grifting and stealing to get what he wants, so he's basically a legit businesspony who moonlights as a small-time hustler, and has an interest in magic and culture as well; sort of an anti-hero version of a renaissance pony.
See what I did? I really didn't change his character all that much from the way you made him, I just dialed him back to a level where he becomes believable and sympathetic. Usually the best protagonist for this type of action story is an individual who is flawed but not irredeemable, and stronger than the average resident of the world but still at a training stage that gives him room to improve.
This could actually help make his relationship with Twilight easier to develop as well. Imagine this scenario: Silver is not really famous, but autistic book horse knows his (ideally good but somewhat obscure) book, so she recognizes his name when he comes to Ponyville and tries to strike up a friendship. As she gets to know him, his arrogance and obnoxiousness turns her off, but he occasionally shows her a more human (pony) side that makes her want to keep getting to know him. He tries hard, usually too hard, and shoots himself in the foot a lot. She eventually finds out about his criminal side, which creates a moral crisis for her and forces him to examine himself, and ultimately make a choice between either friendship and redemption, or pursuing a lonely but probably lucrative path through life.
See how you set stuff like this up? I really didn't need to change that much of Silver's character to make this work, I just fleshed him out a little, toned down his powers and made him more human (ponyish). Now you try it.
>>3913>>3918>I choose my target audience when I make the fic, it's people who want to see Twilight and friends kick some ass.
Another something for you to consider: this may be who you intended to write for, but did you actually write something that such people would want to read? Give that question some serious thought; I'm not trying to insult you or ridicule you right now. Is "Twilight and friends kicking some ass" really what happens in your text so far?
Unless I'm way off base, what you're basically trying to write here is an action story. The format you're writing it in is also closer to a serialized format like a manga, rather than a more contained format like a novel. In some ways this gives you more freedom. You can basically keep writing for as long as you want to, chronicling the adventures of your character in bite-sized chunks without being constrained to the length of a single self-contained volume. However, I would still invite you to take a closer look at some of the long-running action manga series of the sort you seem to want to emulate. They usually move in arcs, which function like small, separate stories that play themselves out over the course of multiple chapters/volumes. The serialized format doesn't alter story structure; there's still a beginning to the arc, rising action, a climax of some sort, falling action, and a resolution that returns things to a starting point, but usually with the characters having grown or learned something. Then there's usually a couple of one shot humorous stories that last for a single (episode, chapter, what have you) before another arc begins, and the characters have another opportunity to grow and/or gain something (power, knowledge, whatever). This is the formula you should aim to follow.
Imagine that Pinkie Pie is blowing up a balloon. She's going to blow it up until it pops. You sit there, watching as she steadily blows air into the balloon. It keeps getting bigger and bigger. You know it's going to pop, but you don't know when. Every time you think the balloon is full to bursting, she manages to put a little more air in it. You can't fucking take it anymore. Finally, just when the anticipation has reached the point where you think you might actually die, there is a loud "pop", and the balloon explodes all over the place. Maybe it was full of confetti and confetti is everywhere now, because that sounds like something she would do. In any event, now that it's popped, you can relax for a few minutes. But then, she gets out another balloon, and the whole vicious cycle begins anew. That's how a story like this is supposed to work.
Now imagine another the same scene, but instead of blowing steadily until it breaks, Pinkie blows a little air into the balloon, and then lets most or all of it out. She blows into it again, then deflates it. Over and over. Sometimes there's more air, sometimes there's less, but the balloon never even comes close to a stage where you'd imagine it would pop. It will probably never pop, she just keeps blowing it up and letting the air out. It's not exciting to watch, it's just tedious. This is how your story currently works.
Every time some interesting shit happens in your story, you're putting air into the balloon. Every time you go off on a tangent about some random subject or start dumping unsolicited world info or backstory on Silver into quotes, you're letting it out. Not only does the balloon never pop, there's no indication that it ever will. Even if you manage to pop the balloon eventually, by the time that happens the audience will have lost interest, if they're even still around. I mean, you're how many thousands of words into it at this point, and what has actually happened so far? Seriously, take a moment and catalog all the events that actually occur and see how sparse it looks on a timeline.
Another thing to note about long-running serials is that there is usually a central plot arc, that runs like a single thread connecting all the smaller arcs together. It usually is anchored in some kind of quest or objective that the protagonist sets out to achieve. The smaller arcs are self-contained episodes that happen along the way. For instance, with Dragonball Z, the story is mostly a bunch of self-contained sagas that pertain to certain fights or certain characters. The overall arc is that Goku or whoever is trying to find the fucking dragonballs or whatever. Inuyasha's central arc is that he's trying to defeat Naraku; along the way he fights battles against demons and beefs up his sword powers. Naruto's central arc is...slathering potato salad on his dick and having his dog lick it off I guess; I've only ever seen one episode of that show and that was plenty. I honestly have no idea what it's about. But you get the point.
The main arc is the glue that holds everything together and gives the MC his purpose. The smaller arcs are where most of the entertainment value lies and where most character development occurs. The serial format give you a little more freedom to explore different ideas and pursue one-shot stories and side quests, but you need to at least follow the formula somewhat, you can't just ramble autistically about whatever whenever. Above all, action stories revolve around action; shit needs to be continuously happening in order to keep people engaged.
In the case of your story, the central arc is probably Silver's quest for personal redemption and fulfillment, which will probably culminate eventually with him forming genuine friendships with the M6, possibly boning Twilight, and maybe realizing that crime doesn't pay. Along the way, you can send him on all sorts of zany adventures that can be whatever you want. But you need to stay on topic, keep the action flowing, chop out needlessly verbose dialog (hint hint 30k word long argument scene), and make sure you know when and how you are going to make the balloon pop, and how to build up the appropriate tension.
Anyone else find it funny how when I critiqued a certain someone's ability to critique, that someone immediately threw out ALL of the stereotypical "Writer who cannot take criticism" damage control soundbytes, including stuff he hadn't even gotten around to accusing me of saying?
Also I already said let's not get into a "I'm a better person than you!" contest. This is the internet, we could both be bullshitting each other.>>3915
In the version of the episode I saw, the big cupboard thing was full. Glimmer stored the Mane Six's marks in jars specifically for... I forget why.>>3916>that guy I hate is only correct in the sense that he's correct.
I kind of just guessed around thirtyish ponies were in that town. It's possible that she had some kind of underground gulag for the "worst" thoughtcriminals and everypony in her town had just forgotten to say "Btw twilight plz help me break these trapped pones out", and that's where hopefully all of the mystery 70-80ish ponies went.>>3917
I diagnose you with gay, you whiny pseudointellectual redditor. Fuck off over to some adult political discussion so you can try and impress the adults present with your ability to (mis)use big boy words and terms while talking about "Muh cycles" and how "we have to prepare for the badness cycle guys! I'm smart for saying that! plz gib upvoats". Or fuck off back to the reddit/discord circlejerk that gave you this titanic ego. Either one works, but you honestly don't belong here.
You aren't intelligent. You aren't redpilled. You don't engage people in intellectual discussions. You don't care about western civilization or its future. You're just here to try and gain "Notoriety" so you can pretend your tiny scrap of internet fame means something. You're here because it's where the people went when they left you and the communities you and your friends ruined to seek greener and less circlejerky pastures.
You aren't here to have a good time. You're here to stop others from having a good time without you because you're secretly bitter about how lonely and irrelevant your "Ebin internet troll" lifestyle has left you.
You cry a lot when people don't treat you how you feel entitled to be treated, but you are a cuck.
And a fraud.
You are a cuck, and we have nothing to offer each other but scorn because I can't cure you of what you've got. I'm sorry for whatever parental neglect/abuse in your past caused you to act out in this way for attention, you didn't deserve to be raised like that but if you turned out like this, they deserved you. I'm sorry that you're addicted to the feeling of thinking you're being persecuted for loving glimmyglam, and your own sad idea of fun, but if I can't cure you, that means you will gain nothing from continuing to talk to me. So please, stop embarassing yourself, and stop trying to force your own views on what I "Must be" onto others. Don't make me tell the people here about that time you exposed yourself on a subreddit for old people while trying to convince the people there I'm what you think I am.
I like this, and I like you.
Naruto's arc was "Become awesome and prove I'm awesome to everyone who doubts, resents, and/or despises me" when the series was good, but it got swallowed up by the Uchiha like everything else in that category-gayht storm the story became. People talk about the last arc having too much DBZ bullshit but it all started when Itachi showed up and had "I can look at you and kill u instantly with mega black fire!" ability and a "I can point at you and make eye contact using my finger!" ability. Also the susanoo gundams were stupid, they should have been people-sized armour suits at best.
My autistic tendencies compel me to say the proper way to ponify "humanizes" would probably be "equinizes", but we'd need to check with an expert to be sure.
And you're right about Silver. I'll go back, edit some chapters, and nerf some stuff. And I'll remove some upcoming stuff, too.
I'm going to trim the fat from his backstory and keep the essential parts here, tell me what you think.
His backstory so far is: He was a smart, tough, lonely farm boy named Star Apple, and the only Unicorn for miles around. He lived on a western movie-themed Frontier Town named Manetanner if I don't think of anything better by the time that comes up in-story, and he was a fat kid who studied hard instead of making friends. His mom was a florist who married into the Apple Family after she met his dad at a gardening convention, and they moved to the frontier because they were bored in Manehattan and adventure sounded fun. He grew up on the farm and using magic to alter the fruits was banned, and so was using tech to make fruit-picking more efficient. They were old-fashioned ponies and he resented them for being that in the usual dumb kid way. Also, he taught himself magic from books he picked up in other towns while experimenting a lot, making random inventor crap, learning whatever he can, often by doing magic stuff wrong and learning why it went wrong, and so on. Then cattle rustlers went for his farm, so he picked them off one by one during a cattle theft using the crappy spells he knew and the inventor devices he made, and he became the town's deputy.
He got older and became a preteen, and decided to travel Equestria as Silver Blaze, young and magic bounty hunter, using his handful of magic spells and gizmos in creative ways to get around Stand-esque gimmicks used by many great outlaws he took down.
There was originally also going to be a bit here where he sent out a bunch of Silver Spares and many of them formed their own lives, the best ones going on to join his Leverage-esque crew on secret heists in his later years. One of those spares would go to Pony Asia and learn kung fu+The Spin from Jojo's while also "Fixing" the anger issues he used to have. And he still has them, they're just not as bad as they used to be. But I'm not sure about that now. On one hand, if he has a Leverage team, it means he has friends, so befriending the mane six is less special for him. So if they're all copies of himself, it still works.
Anyway, years later, he got old enough to go to college, and he reinvented himself as Silver Star, a suit-wearing british-voiced mysterious pony so he wouldn't have to deal with the "I can't allow some commoner to be my friend!" garbage he expected to encounter. He encountered less of that than he expected(possibly? unsure). Picking an obviously western-themed name was a small act of rebellion against the obnoxiously fake pseudointellectual rich-idiot ponies in the town, but he made friends at the school he went to. Though they ended up hating him after he fucked up in a big way and (spoiler) but he's still pouring money into finding a way to fix that.
He wasn't magically powerful enough to enter Celestia's School, but he was smart enough to get into the next best thing, Duel Academy. There, he learned combat magic, strategy, magical duelling, and he gained a formal education in the higher-level magic stuff while also taking secret remedial courses for the lower-level stuff he skipped or learned wrong. For example, he thought unicorns HAD to DBZ yell his whole life when casting hard spells.
The secret test to get in… It's the Kobayashi Maru. Silver got through it by being smart enough to spot a big hole in it I saw when I saw the Star Trek movie years ago. (I watched the actual Star Trek shows later and liked the original more)
He was sworn to secrecy about how he got in, so to maintain that secrecy he hypes the secret up like it was some kind of "Ultimate chosen one, equal of sage, great heaven" deal, implying that's what it was, when it was really just something anyone could figure out.
When he graduated, he did business shit, and that's where I began the story because I was originally planning on doing a "Every chapter starts and ends with a flashback scene to the guy's childhood, like how Oliver Queen from Arrow had flashbacks to his time on the island" thing I ended up dropping.
So, what do you think so far?
There are no other versions of the episode, Dear Leader Glimmer specifically orders Double Diamond to get their marks from the vault in part 2, in part 1 in makes a great big show of the marks going into the vault complete with loud sound effects as they're sealed behind the glass. You are correct in one aspect, you are wrong in another. That's if we ignore for a moment that some of the cutie marks present in the vault have duplicates and others even belong to ponies who at the time of the episode are living in Ponyville.
It finally clicked in my head. I didn't get this in the begining of these threads. I was wondering why Nigel believe us to be Glimmerlovers and communists and I finally saw it from his perspective.
He posted this fic here since he knew with this specific chapter since he thought he had made something we would appricate. A story in which communist were beaten in debate. But since he didn't get a good reception he wondered why that was. I think he had seen Glimmerposting earlier on this site so he came to the conclusion that some communist, which favorite horse is Glimmer, saw his post here. And since this person is a communist, he decided to call up some friends to shill and raid his post.
That is why he has been, I don't know if he still is, convinced that you all are Glimmerniggers.
>I like this, and I like you.
i know it wasn't directed towards me. You're tearing me apart Nigel. But I have said it before, I like a lot of your points on fim then I don't know you personally so I might not like you per se. I watch this thread and have my opions of what people write to eachother but this is the internet and I am not someone's mom so I am not going to lecture people on what they should and should not do.
A I right about it being you behind the posts about how Fluttershy became a manipulative bitch who made Discord emotionally dependent on her, Applejack became a stupid hick who gets angery at any other fruit than apples and that Twilight was turned into a ruby rose character? I have no idea of who ruby rose I btw But I do agree with those first points and with a lot of your other points.
However, I garantee that none of us are communists and I don't like your story.
I haven't read it because I usually just scan through a fanfic before I give it a shot. I was meet with a wall of text and I just felt so unmotivated to continue so I read what Glimglam posted about it instead. I figured that since you didn't point out in flaws in his description of your story, he wasn't misrepresenting you.
I know there was no other version, I was making a joke but I forgot what it was.
I hope the whole "Glimmer killed ponies" thing isn't what canonically happened to make Glimmer's bullshit power level happen.
But if she didn't kill anypony there, she definitely killed ponies in the alternate timelines she created by going back in time to ruin Twilight's life.>>3923
I don't think you're ALL them, just the ones that are them. Just that handful of dumb guys that are trying to insist I'm a bad guy, because they want to dupe people into thinking I'm a bad guy. It usually works for them on other, less smart sites, where "Muh group consensus" is god.
Also yeah, there are many ways to write a redemption story but "The supposed-to-be-nice hero uses friendship to make the bad guy emotionally dependent on her approval, keeping his balls in her purse instead of doing any heartwarming shit or whatever" really just doesn't sit right in a setting like FIM. The ponies are supposed to be cute, innocent, optimistic things in a dangerous world they tamed so hard they literally control the skies. Snooty places like Canterlot and Modernish places like Pony New York are supposed to be exceptions to the rule, not Ponyville.
Applejack... She was a really nice pony. She might not have topped any "Most popular" polls, but she was a good and respectable pony, and she deserved better than what the nu-writers did to her, turning her into the memey hick they see all southerners as.
As for Twilight=Ruby, I don't remember saying that but that's a good way to put it. After they "Fixed" Twilight's "Biggest" character flaw, she felt like a generic "Vanilla Protagonist" too often. Instead of seeing Twilight trying to make it as a princess and prove to Celestia that she can do this, we see a generic princess protagonist read lines on the script given to her by writers who'd never met her.
I think it's because they focused so much on the "Her being an Alicorn totally wasn't a dumb thing! Look, she's older now, so it fits!" stuff.
Ruby Rose worked when she was a socially-awkward weapon-loving dork two years younger than everyone else. When she got older and just became a generic "We can do it! Yay hope! I keep smiling because light!" protagonist it felt shallow. It felt like a downgrade. The writers didn't earn those "Smiling despite what she went through" points. The writers didn't earn anything. They just tease stuff for a while and then show it. It's like Steven Universe only not as bad.
>>3924>But if she didn't kill anypony there, she definitely killed ponies in the alternate timelines she created by going back in time to ruin Twilight's life.
That's debatable, even in the crystal war timeline the fighting amounts to slap fights and ponies have cartoon level resilience, so dropping boulders on Rainbow wouldn't have been lethal considering she's crashed at high speeds and walked it off prior. FiM isn't made for adults, there isn't anything in its universe or mandate that's lethal since producers in the modern day don't think kids can handle anything too dark, even the villains are exempt from outright death. Sombra exploded, sure, but he was shown to be able to regenerate his form from a single part, even the Storm King wasn't really dead thanks to the post credits scenes.
What I'm trying to say is, you've based a large portion of your judgement of Glimmer on headcanon derived from the staff's lack of maintaining consistency episode to episode (and occasionally even scene to scene if you pay attention to the wildly changing geography) and misremembered details in episodes. Since you've stated that your aim is to fix what the staff borked, one would think you'd pay a greater amount of attention to the details of what you're attempting to fix.
As an aside, fixing Glimmer isn't about her suffering retribution for what she's done, she's already been pardoned by Twaggle Sprinkles, so the better method would have been to send her back to Our Town to make amends and to remain there until she's learned and truly understood why what she did was wrong. A good scenario would be to have a Nishruu attack the town because of GlimGlam's excessive ShimSham, nullifying her ability to just magic the problem away and forcing her to utilise her leadership skills to make use of the talents and unique abilities of the town's residents to drive it off, realising in the process that utterly leveling the playing field like a dirty commie
doesn't solve problems. And yes, a Nishruu would absolutely work, Hasbro owns Dungeons and Dragons so there's nothing stopping anyone from just ripping shit out of the monster manuals.
I'm not sure anyone ever has called you a bad guy, just a bad writer with a bad OC.
>>3924>I don't think you're them, I just think that everyone I say is them
Am I the only person who sees the numerous fallacies in this position?
I think this is a measurable improvement. The backstory here is much better and comes across as less silly. I would definitely keep his magic abilities limited, especially early on. The more you can have him rely on ingenuity and creativity and less on high-level kamehameha type stuff the better off you'll be at establishing a good foundation on which the audience can build their opinions of him. At least in the beginning, like I said if you want to have him learn more high-powered spells and techniques later in the story that's up to you, but definitely in the beginning he should be physically and magically weak but intelligent and resourceful to make up for it. The progression through adolescence where he tries to make a living as a bounty hunter also has some potential, again just try to resist the urge to make him too amazing at it. The idea with fleshing out his backstory is not so much to provide a chronicle of neat stuff he's done, as much as to lay out the events that shaped his character, both the positive and negative aspects.
His childhood on a farm, for instance, would teach him the value of hard work and the value of money, but would also likely be the origin point of his greed and obsession with elevating his social status. His parents stifling his creativity would give him a chip on his shoulder which could make him moody and angsty, but also increase his hunger to escape mediocrity and pursue greatness. Having his family farm pillaged by cattle rustlers would teach him about loss (inb4 loss.png) and how anyone's achievements can be torn down in an instant. Personally, I would nix the bit about him going after the cattle rustlers and becoming the town Deputy; rather, I would have him go after the rustlers but fail miserably. He uses everything in his arsenal but it's not enough, either they get away and he's left hungry or they beat him to a pulp. Either way he survives and learns a lesson: that life is cruel, and he needs to become stronger. Think Batman Begins: when Bruce Wayne first tried to pick a fight with criminals, did he win? No, he got his ass kicked, but getting his ass kicked was an important development point for who he later became. He realized that grit and determination and righteousness isn't enough, you need an edge; you need strength, and you need to be ruthless to some extent. A fight isn't about who is morally right, a fight is about who can win. All of his experiences teach him good things and bad things, and both shape his character.
Going off to college, affecting a fake accent and trying to pass himself off as a blueblood while rigorously studying is exactly the sort of thing a character with this kind of backstory would do, so good job there. You're definitely on the right track, again just try not to have him gain quite so much power. You want him to emerge from dueling school as capable, probably on-par or superior to most of the top students, but not so overpowered it's implausible. You may want to consider giving him a rival here, possibly someone who actually is the type of blueblood Silver tries to pass himself off as. I'd make the rival as powerful or more powerful than him, whether or not Silver eventually defeats him or the conflict is left unresolved for possible future reuse is up to you; it's a stylistic choice and either could work.
I'd like to try to steer you away from the Kobayashi Maru business if I could, just because it's instantly recognizable as being from Star Trek and it's really not necessary to Silver's development. When I first came across it in your text my eyes pretty much rolled themselves. If you insist on keeping it in, since it's such a recognizable reference you want to make sure you write it in a way that makes it clear you are referencing Star Trek rather than trying to rip it off, which is a somewhat hard thing to do. I can generally do it but I don't know how to explain how to do it. In general I'd recommend you avoid referencing things outside the universe you're working in.
Having him working in business after college is a fine place to start, again just try to make his level of success plausible for the point he's at. There are a lot of practical considerations to business that have nothing to do with grit or moxy or the character's will. You need startup capital, a product, a way to manufacture and market your product, etc etc, and time for the business to take root and grow. It's unlikely a recent college grad from a humble background would own his own skyscraper, for instance, no matter how smart and talented he is. Maybe make him a small-time entrepreneur, or even an employee of someone initially. Maybe even have his initial adversary be his boss; he works for a shady company run by a shady pony, and he figures out some clever way to force him out and take over his company. There's a good first arc right there.
A couple more things.
I'd like to stress that how you go about revealing the character's backstory is as important, maybe even more important, than the content of the backstory itself. Probably the worst thing you can possibly do is have the character explain his entire backstory as dialog, and especially not at the very beginning of the story. If you give the whole thing away at once, then the reader knows everything about this character and there's no more mystery to him. Although in some stories the character's backstory is given away all at once, it's usually done quite a ways in, after a great deal of mystery has been built up around the character. In the case of Silver "sorry but I can't resist doing this joke one more time, butt sex lmao" Star, you're going to want to give it away in small pieces, and only in places where it's appropriate. When possible, try not to have Silver himself explain who he is, try to show
who Silver is and where he came from. You can do this through flashbacks, memories, inner monologues, whatever; just for the love of God please don't have Silver just start lecturing ponies about work ethics and bragging about how he used to beat up cattle rustlers while he's in the middle of a fight scene. Or a date.
I've actually got a YT video you may find helpful. It's a recording of a lecture on how to read and interpret fiction from the perspective of a writer rather than just consuming it as entertainment. The lecturer is William S. Burroughs, who I'll warn you was a beat writer and fairly degenerate in many ways (he was a literal fag and a drug addict, among other things). His actual writing I can generally take or leave. However, his analyses of literature are very interesting to listen to and I personally have picked up a lot of interesting ways of thinking from him. In particular, pay attention to the part where he's talking about the character of Jay Gatsby in The Great Gatsby, and how he is fleshed out. It basically goes over ways of thinking about a character as a whole person (pony), but only writing the parts you need the reader to see. If you do it right, the reader will get the sense of the whole character just from the breadcrumbs you give him, and be more satisfied for having pieced it together himself. You definitely don't want to just dump all the information in his lap at once.
Anyway, here is the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dymsKE_N3A
Another thing I've mentioned before that I'd like to stress again is your characterization needs work. This is just the art of understanding who your characters are and determining how they will think, speak and behave in a given situation. It's hard to learn initially, but once you do learn it comes very easily and you can do it without thinking. For an OC like Silver, what you're doing currently is a good start. You want to get everything you can about him fleshed out: who he is, where he's from, where's going. What are his abilities and shortcomings, what is his personality like, what does he like to eat, is he a top or a bottom (sorry that's the last gay joke I'll make about him I swear), etc etc. Write it all down, but don't put it all in the story, just use it as reference. When you're writing, try to imagine yourself as the character. You need to write his dialog in his voice, not yours, that is crucial to making your character believable. You need to think about his actions and how he reacts to situations from his perspective, not from the omniscient perspective of the author. For instance, your scene where Silver starts petting Pinkie Pie. Is that something Silver would do, or is that something that you, the author, would like to see Silver do? There's a difference between these two modes of thought, and you have to learn how to split them apart, even if the end result is the same.
For the other characters, the preexisting pony characters, their personalities and backstories are already established, so it's a matter of just doing the same thing as with your own characters: learn to think like them. I've suggested before, and would still suggest, writing some short exercise type stories about small interactions between different characters in the MLP universe. These are not necessarily to be published, just to experiment with the characters and see how they act. Writing greentext from a prompt is also a good way to learn this. Focusing on simple scenarios where there is minimal action going on forces you to focus on the characters and how they think, speak and behave. Once you've got that figured out, you'll find your characters behave much more naturally when you put them in your actual world and have them react to your action sequences. You'll be able to integrate your OCs into the canon universe much less awkwardly as well.
Oh my-oh my, what do we have here?
It's hilarious because on one hand you're pointing out my 'notoriety,' as if it's a flaw, (it is), but you seem intent on giving me the notoriety you criticize.>Don't make me tell the people here about that time you exposed yourself on a subreddit for old people while trying to convince the people there I'm what you think I am.
THIS, is what I'm referencing by the way, because you seem intent on 'threatening' me with something; when I quite blatantly told you to 'do it faggot,' even though I'm not the person you're threatening and you're just giving said retard 'notoriety'
when you think said person is me
but you criticize my notoriety
I'll ask again, do you have a wife?
Oh yes, I knew there was something else I forgot to mention. The clones.
Again, I would personally like to try and steer you away from them as I think they make your story overly complicated without really adding much. Every time there's an extra Silver, the reader has one more iteration of the same character to keep track of and it gets difficult to keep track of where the real Silver is. They also seem to be a bit of a crutch you rely on to give Silver unearned powers or to explain away improbable events, and in any event I have to insist that you please stop using them that way.
One idea I might suggest is maybe having one clone exist, and rather than have him be a servant or assistant to the real Silver, make him be an evil twin or something. Like let's say that at some point, probably in college or maybe earlier, Silver attempted a high level spell that was beyond his abilities, or maybe tried to modify a less complicated spell as he does in the original story if I remember correctly. I seem to recall that he modified a basic cloning spell so that the clones were able to think and act independently, and retain knowledge, and whatever else they can do.
I would probably have him attempt the same thing, but instead of succeeding, fuck it up. He accidentally creates a perfect clone of himself, but while the real Silver works to overcome his flaws, his clone is just a complete soulless dick. He has his own life and goes on his own wacky adventures, but from time to time injects himself into the real Silver's life, attempting to impersonate him for various reasons, probably in situations like dates with Twilight or other instances where he is getting close to gaining someone's trust but his evil clone conveniently fucks it up for him. It's an old trope that you can still get a surprising amount of mileage from if you do it right.
trying so hard
btw I got those games from humble bundle. Cheap games AND I get to support charity!
Also if you want to pretend I "Hate you for being notorious", turn your PC off so you can keep on pretending I'm saying what you wish I was saying.
You're a loudmouthed crybaby, desperate for attention and "Notoriousness". It's sad and pathetic.>>3931
Sounds good, what else?
I was thinking of reducing his "Arsenal" down to "I have a handful of spells, devices, and enchanted stuff on me at any given time".
KEK, tell us more about Vril, and loudmouthed crybabies, please
>>3920>"I diagnose you with gay, you whiny pseudointellectual redditor. Fuck off over to some adult political discussion so you can try and impress the adults present with your ability to (mis)use big boy words and terms while talking about "Muh cycles" and how "we have to prepare for the badness cycle guys! I'm smart for saying that! plz gib upvoats". Or fuck off back to the reddit/discord circlejerk that gave you this titanic ego. Either one works, but you honestly don't belong here.[/b]
You aren't intelligent. You aren't redpilled. You don't engage people in intellectual discussions. You don't care about western civilization or its future. You're just here to try and gain "Notoriety" so you can pretend your tiny scrap of internet fame means something. You're here because it's where the people went when they left you and the communities you and your friends ruined to seek greener and less circlejerky pastures.
You aren't here to have a good time. You're here to stop others from having a good time without you because you're secretly bitter about how lonely and irrelevant your "Ebin internet troll" lifestyle has left you.
You cry a lot when people don't treat you how you feel entitled to be treated, but you are a cuck.
And a fraud.
[b]You are a cuck, and we have nothing to offer each other but scorn because I can't cure you of what you've got. I'm sorry for whatever parental neglect/abuse in your past caused you to act out in this way for attention, you didn't deserve to be raised like that but if you turned out like this, they deserved you. I'm sorry that you're addicted to the feeling of thinking you're being persecuted for loving glimmyglam, and your own sad idea of fun, but if I can't cure you, that means you will gain nothing from continuing to talk to me. So please, stop embarassing yourself, and stop trying to force your own views on what I "Must be" onto others. Don't make me tell the people here about that time you exposed yourself on a subreddit for old people while trying to convince the people there I'm what you think I am."
Never before have you described yourself in one post better, Nigel. This post is proof that you are merely low functioning, since you cant tell who is what. But good attempt. I doubt it will grant you long term betterment though.
Who are you on Fimfic, I want to know who he blocked >>3548>>3932
You don't know anything about me, leddit will always hold a special place in my heart because like most stupid places From the internet it's filled wIth Many people who will give validation and positive praise in the overwhelmingly positive if it has any slight amount of redeeming qualities or 50/100 if its shit.
The internet is just one of those places,
filled with tonnes of unearned, unhealthy and stunted validation.
So why do you care if I share my theories on leddit? Everyone who cares enough to engage gets value out of its discussion or likes it.
So hows my flag going?
I hope it isn't getting too muddy.
How else can I put this...
The problem isn't that you USE reddit, it's that you ARE reddit.
You are everything wrong with Reddit. You display the absolute worst of reddit-like behaviour, and the worst behaviours and attitudes that it encourages. You aren't here to contribute to the site, you're here to get metaphorical upvotes on this site. You aren't here to contribute, you're here to seem like you are a contributor, and to make sure everyone knows it's you when you talk out your ass about cycles and inevitabilities and other bullshit, you have an avatar by another name. Did reddit infect you through exposure, or were you always like this? It doesn't matter. You want to turn this thread into one of your liberal reddit circlejerk "Everyone, quick! Downvote this guy no matter what he says and where he goes!" sessions. You want to feel strong, and you want to reassure yourself that at least you aren't me. Of course, you not being me is only a reassuring thing for you if you can convince yourself that being me is not only bad, but the worst thing any human being could ever be.
These downvote threads might be fun for you, but they don't contribute anything to this site. They don't provide better OC for its users. They don't help western civilization. They drive writers away by convincing them that all fanfic writers are like this loudmouthed vocal minority of unpleasable bullies. They don't belong here, on a site that should be the perfect synthesis of everything good about /mlp/ and /pol/.
Just as the shills of 4chan's /pol/ don't belong here, the ledditor circlejerkers of 4chan's /mlp/ do not belong here. And if one does, so does the other, for whatever reason there is to allow one to corrupt the place.
I originally wanted to advertise my fic here, with one thread about it. I made a second thread about >tfw making this fic. But now, I can improve my writing skills here, with the aid of the civil and intelligent people here. And you don't want that, because you don't want people to be good, or to get better. You want to destroy, like a liberal. You want people to suck, so you can pretend they suck more than you.
If you want to find people who actually do suck more than you, there's only one place you can find them. Do something good for western civilization and try to uncover the identities of Antifa members, supporters, sympathizers, conspirators, and funders. You don't have to be like this forever. You can turn your life around and turn your desperate search for much-needed self-validation into something constructive. Trust me, your self-esteem issues hurt you a lot less when you've got some actual accomplishments to your name.
Shhhh! This is hilarious! You're gonna spoil it>>3937>pic related
>>3932>I was thinking of reducing his "Arsenal" down to "I have a handful of spells, devices, and enchanted stuff on me at any given time".
Again this is definitely a good idea and it's good to see you're willing to start moving your character in this direction.
For Silver's powers and arsenal the main thing is to just dial it back to where he's at a reasonable power level for a character at the beginning of a story. What specifically he can do is up to you, but the main thing to think about is that his powers are appropriate for a low-level character. If you think of it like a video game, most of the time you start out with a character who can't do very much initially. The character usually starts off with some skills in a particular area or a weapon he can use well, and maybe a single special attack or special move. Anything else he learns along the way as a result of gaining experience or fighting bosses. If a character is powerful enough to defeat the final boss at the beginning of the game there's no reason to play the game. If you want him to be both a fighter and a magic user, try to balance his abilities evenly between the two and don't make him too powerful in either area. A friend of mine is writing a fantasy story that relies heavily on fighting rules, and he solved these technical problems by devising his own level system and simple RPG-like battle mechanics. That way he's got a logical, consistent system that helps him determine where each of his characters is at skill-wise, who they could reasonably beat, and who they would be outmatched against. You seem to enjoy inventing spells and battle mechanics so this might be an avenue for you to explore. But map the details out on the side and use them as reference, don't dump them into your text.
Particularly since it looks like you want this story to be a long, continuing saga, you will especially want to think about what kinds of abilities you want your character to attain along the way and how to space them out so he gains them at appropriate times. You don't have to have the whole thing completely mapped out, but it's probably a good rule of thumb that he shouldn't gain more than one major power per story arc. Also try to keep in mind the way things would logically work in your world. What kinds of things would Silver be logically able to do at the point in his life that you begin the story? It sounds like he did well at his magical dueling school, so he would probably have some abilities there; however, he's young and a recent college graduate, so while he is probably a match or well above the level of most of his classmates, he would probably get the shit kicked out of him if he went up against an alumnus of that school who'd been out in the world honing his skills for a decade or two. School basically prepares you to enter a particular career or discipline; doing well in school means you're a good entry-level candidate, it doesn't mean you're a master of that discipline.
It's also logical that he would be good at business at this point, but probably not wealthy yet. He knows how to earn money but wealth takes time to build. Have him start out low-level somewhere in the business world and work his way up, as I said I think you could make an entire story arc out of a conflict between him and some evil businesspony, either a competitor or someone he works for. You could play this out over several chapters and then resolve it, maybe even work in another complete arc before he even thinks of going to Ponyville. If you want him to be a successful and wealthy character, you should spend some time showing his climb to success, rather than just start the story out where he's already successful.
As to his intellectual pursuits, again it makes sense he would be smart and ambitious but not terribly accomplished yet. I think it would be a good idea to have him write a book or something (ONE book) that ends up being reasonably successful in some circles and gains him a small amount of fame and income, but not enough to propel him to the top. Again I think this could serve as a potential introduction point for when he eventually meets Twilight. Oh, and one more thing about that: you really need to examine the dynamics between the two of them and how you approach that. The way I'd set it up is to have Silver be aware that the Princess of Friendship lives in town when he eventually gets to Ponyville and wants to meet her, but isn't sure how to approach. Twilight finds out through the grapevine that he moved there recently, and it turns out she's read his book and liked it. The details of how they meet are up to you, but ideally, at the beginning, Silver should be more impressed with Twilight than Twilight should be with Silver. Treat the relationship the way you treat the rest of what he does: as a goal that he gradually accomplishes over the course of the story. You can even use stats and things to make it work if that helps you; make a dating sim out of it. Create a progress bar for his efforts to win her over. Every time he does something to impress her, it goes up. Every time he does something arrogant or stupid, it goes down. Set a high threshold for winning her over that will take him multiple arcs to achieve. A romantic story within an action story is by nature a subplot, so dole it out in small chunks and space it out across multiple arcs.
Also if you didn't see them I would recommend you give a couple of other posts I made a quick read: >>3929
. Pay particular attention to what I said about characterization because it's a significant deficiency in your writing that I've seen thus far, and if you can improve in that area it will help you a lot in any genre you might want to write in. You should also try to resist the temptation to go off topic or ramble too much or drop too much information into the story at once. Some writers like to outline and some like to make the story up as they go, but one way or the other you should have a general plan in mind for where you want the story to go in the long-term and try to follow it. In your case you may want to try writing a short outline for each arc you want to work on, then divide the action up so you know what events should happen in each chapter. The plan isn't gospel and you can deviate a bit from it if you want, but try to more or less adhere to the general timeline so that action keeps flowing evenly and your text doesn't get bogged down.
For instance Chapter 6 that you posted, which is where I initially started reading, is by far the longest chapter in your entire story, but very little actually happens in that chapter. If you lay it out so that by the end of chapter 6, this and this and this should have happened, then discover that Chapter 6 has swollen practically to the size of its own novel, but you haven't even covered half the events that you wanted to cover, that will serve as a red flag that you probably have some extraneous text that you need to remove or break up. Remember, if you're planning to write a long continuous work that spans multiple volumes anyway, you have no real constraints on length, so there's really no reason you need to feed the reader a huge amount of information at once. Just write it all out for yourself and save it to your hard drive somewhere, then use that text as a reference for yourself. You may want to consider writing a world bible or something similar that lays out all the complicated autistic mechanics and everyone's backstories and personal history so that you can reference it while writing. It will help you keep your details straight and also allow you to get a lot of your ideas out of your head and on paper, so you won't be as tempted to dump them into the text of your story. A lot of fantasy authors who set stories in complicated fictional worlds do something similar.
Sticking with Chapter 6 as an example, as I said you have an extremely long chapter in which very little happens. The reason for this is that you obviously have quite a bit to say about Glimmer and her beliefs and the things she's done, and the dialog between Silver and Glimmer dominates most of the chapter. Without changing any of the core content or message, you could split this up much more effectively across multiple chapters or even multiple arcs with a bit of planning and thought. You could simultaneously address some of the logic issues in this chapter.
You have Silver meet Glimmer for the first time at the barn party, however as it's been pointed out Glimmer is living in Twilight's castle, and you've said that one of Silver's clones has been inside the castle to explore it. It would thus make sense that Silver would be aware of Glimmer's presence in Ponyville, however at the party Silver seems shocked to find her there, which is how the fight starts. The whole thing just doesn't make much sense.
A better way to handle this would be to again eliminate the clone thing, and then have Silver bump into Glimmer at some point. He recognizes her, they argue (NOT for 30k words, just a short argument). Don't have them physically fight, just argue for maybe a couple of paragraphs, then Glimmer storms off. This sets up a conflict that you can make into a recurring event. It also opens up the potential for a conflict between Twilight and Silver, because Glimmer is Twilight's friend and Silver and Glimmer hate each other. Conflict is good, it's the stuff that stories are made from. If you want a long-runnning story, you'll want to set up multiple conflicts that can be resolved over time.
You can play out this back and forth a lot across multiple chapters or even multiple arcs. My advice, since you've said that Glimmer is not meant to be a major villain but just kind of a small distraction for Silver, is to make it a side story that intermittently pops up from time to time, rather than focusing an arc on it. Glimmer pops in and out of the story, and every time she does they argue about Communism or Equalism or whatever you want to call it. Just a short argument, nothing huge. If Twilight is around maybe have her stick up for Glimmer but also start to see things from Silver's perspective as well, the more he lays points out. In the end you can resolve it however you want, just don't do the whole thing all at once, and try to focus on events rather than rhetoric. In the massive argument scene, you tend to repeat a lot of the same points over and over. This isn't necessarily bad, but it's better to dole these kinds of ideas out across multiple scenes in small, easy to digest chunks. Again, remember your audience. People reading action stories probably aren't as interested in long debate sequences, so if you want to slip ideology into your story in a way that might influence them, you have to do it more subtly. Try to make the argument scenes topical and relate to events in the world, rather than something as broad and theoretical as ideology.
He's calling other people but between these two 'ebic drama threads' slightly turned into something useful (thank GlimmerNigel, faggot) and the poll drama /mlpol/ looks like it's experiencing the fall part of the cycle:
"weak men creating reddit-times"
Over all it's comedic because of how this mooomoo is
literally leddit even though he says I'm leddit incarnate.>>3937
So? You say I'm leddit, a valid flaw to be fair, but compared to my ledditfied description of myself aren't you still a bigger ledditor than me? Or is helping leddit pay the bills not counted?
It's almost like someone is making you criticize yourself.
Thanks for posting the pic /mlpol/
This whole thing is starting to get surreal. Halp, I'm melting.
There you go again with that shit, trying to push your own view of me as the "Correct" one. You see me as reddit, because you're reddit, and we all know what liberals like you are like when it comes to projection. Particularly, projecting your own flaws and failings onto someone you desperately want to "Destroy".
Unfortunately for you, the site's staff are redpilled on this site. So while you've gotten me banned from Fimfic, you can't get me banned from here with the same old "Attack man, start shit, call him the problem, blame him for everything, call him the worst, repeat until you dupe someone in power into taking your side" shit.
You exposed yourself to a subreddit for old people.
I don't think there's another way I can put that. I'm sorry to say this, but you're the problem here. I'm banned from Fimfic.net, and reddit. So could you return to the circlejerks you've excluded me from, and leave this site alone?
I know you can't, because you feed off attention and the meaningless "Drama" you start and obsess over, but could you at least try to fuck off? Come on, what was the point of sucking mod cock to get me banned from Fimfic and Reddit if you're only going to follow me here anyway?
You're an Antifa dog here to... What did those leaked Hillary emails from Wikileaks call that thing when dishonest people like you attack me so you can cry foul about me, again?>>3940>>3941
Nice, got it. By the way, I was thinking of balancing out the different levels of fighting ability in the Mane Six and letting each one contribute to big fights by giving everypony some kind of superpower when some big superpower-granting event goes off. Including the villains, many of whom will get better/"less fair" powers than the heroes. Everyone's power would generally fit their personality and who they are, but in a way that would help them. Derpy, for example, would get the ability to produce big bubbles that "Wash away" specific stuff on the conceptual level, so if she drops something she's carrying, and it breaks, she can wash away the damage to repair it, as if the cracks were painted on all along. But she wouldn't be able to wash away the object itself, erasing it. Also, I wouldn't just reuse the powers the Mane Six got in the Superhero episode, I'd give them ones that fit the mane six better.
Do you think that would make this story better, or worse?
Also, as for Glimmer… I like the idea of spreading out the scenes with her, and if this was just a slice-of-life thing with no regular physical conflict, I'd do that. But for an action cartoon, she needs to go. She’s too strong, she's too invincible, and something needs to happen to her before the “Silver and Mane Six VS villain of the arc” fights around Ponyville and Equestria really kick off. I don’t want fans to say “Hey, why don’t they just take Glimmer with them to instantly pwn all the bad guys ever?”. This character has no power level limits, she's like the shitty OC the Dungeonmaster's Girlfriend makes and gets away with for reasons everyone at the table knows. She can near-instantly do alone what Celestia and Luna - and the mane six - couldn't(Banish DISCORD, even if only temporarily) and she can defeat Twilight Sparkle multiple times in one day without ever running out of stamina. I'm surprised I'm actually going to say this about another fictional character after how much I hated that character as a kid, but even Itachi from Naruto wasn't this bad.
First of, worse. Derpy isn't a unicorn, so giving her powers would be absurd. As for the Mane 6, look at the Season 2 finale; they don't do it up unnecessarily, but everyone's talents are on display. Applejack - as one who bucks apples most every day - is bucking ass, Pinkie is putting her cannon to good use, even Twilight subs as a gatling gun. IMO that scene was pushing it, but at least it wasn't over the top or overdone. What you're suggesting is - as others have pointed out - trying to turn MLP into what it isn't; a shonen-tier series.
As for the rest, get fucked. Time and again you've accused others of what you yourself
do on a regular basis, with zero self-awareness. You attempt to speak for others as though you have any credibility, you attempt to distinguish who belongs where which you evidently don't as indicated in >>3920
(and I'm sure you've taken to not back-reading just so you can avoid instances where your statements are rejected) not to mention dismissing the legitimacy of your bans on other sites (just like the jews do). When are you going to get it Nigel, you're the biggest problem in this equation. I admit you're making progress in your creative capacity, but you really should knock off the whole "I belong here and (you) don't" shit.
Jason, seeing you shadowboxing with your own paranoia fueled autism against literal strawmen and made up sockpuppets is well and all entertaining, but for your own sake you should just stop. Stop and leave. You dug yourself a grave so deep you should have popped out in china days ago. I am sure you are merely using this site out of habit rather than a conscious decision. Get out of this house. Spirit be gone.
>>3948>stop and leave>get out
Don't you start with that shit
>>3946>Do you think that would make this story better, or worse?
As to this I can't really say. It goes back to what I said earlier in >>3897
about subjective and objective definitions of artistic value. If you look at the first image of Derpy, it's objectively well drawn. However, some fans might find things in this image to object to. Some might not like the idea of sexualizing poners. Some might call attention to the fact that her eyes aren't crossed and it's wrong for the character. Some people might not like the quasi-photorealistic style and think that the MLP characters should always be rendered in the Flash style of the show. These would be subjective criticisms of the work, based on personal taste and opinion. However, the objective quality of the artist's skill can't really be called into question even by people who don't like it; whoever drew this knew what he was doing.
If I were trying to teach you how to draw, and your art resembled the CWC drawing in pic 3, I would be trying to teach you how to technically draw well and would be focusing on things like horse anatomy, proportions, scene composition, lighting, etc; what you ultimately chose to draw once you learned how would be up to you. Once you reach a skill level in any creative discipline where no one can shit on your work for objective technical reasons, that's the point where you can afford to tell haters to fuck off if they don't like it. But you have to reach that level first. If you create something that is objectively bad and
contains elements and themes that are likely to be controversial with fans, and
you choose to take a combative tone with your critics, you're basically going to get shit on without mercy, which is what has mostly been happening in these threads so far. That's why I want to try to convince you to focus less on what specific elements you want to have in your story for now and more on how to lay it out and tell it, and how to build quality characters.
Whether or not your actual idea is "good" is subjective. When you're writing a fanfiction your primary audience will mostly consist of fans of the canon story, since people who don't like MLP probably won't read fanfiction set in that universe. The more you deviate from canon the more likely you are to get pushback from people who want to read stories that follow the spirit of the original work. However, that is not to say that writing a more transformative work that makes significant changes to the universe is necessarily bad just because some fans wouldn't enjoy it. What is far more important is that the story is well written and well told. An MLP story where Applejack has laser-beam eyes and Rarity is a cyborg with a thirst for human blood would be a huge departure from canon, but you could still make a fantastic story out of it if you constructed and told it well. By contrast, a huge amount of fanfiction has been written that follows the series canon perfectly and is still cringe-inducing and awful, just because the person writing it had no idea what they were doing. Even a stupid idea is salvageable in the hands of a good writer, and even a great idea can fail miserably in the hands of a bad one.
If you want my personal subjective opinion, I tend to agree with >>171363; that it doesn't make much sense to give a character powers that she wouldn't reasonably have. If you're going to have the Mane 6 plus Silver be a party of fighters, it makes technical sense to keep them all at a consistent skill level so they can all participate in battles. However, the problem you've got with these characters is that they weren't originally designed for that type of role, and figuring out fighting abilities for all of them will probably become an awkward task the more grandiose you want your battle sequences to be. For instance, Twilight is pretty easy to level up since her whole character is that she's a strong magic-user to begin with. However, the same can't really be said for Rarity, despite her also being a magic user, as she mostly uses her magic for domestic creative tasks and probably has no interest in learning high-level spells. Fluttershy would be a huge challenge, since it's completely against her nature to even fight in the first place and she really has no combat abilities to enhance, so you'd have to probably give her a weapon of some kind, which she'd look awkward trying to use. If I were writing this, I would probably drop this idea and go a different direction. However, that is not to say that you necessarily should do the same.
I would say your challenge, if you want to pursue this idea, is less a matter of figuring out what abilities to give these characters specifically, as figuring out why
they acquire the abilities you choose to give them. That's really what's going to make the difference. Like, let's say just for fun that you decide to mount a gun turret to Fluttershy's back and have Angel Bunny man it like she's a WWI fighter plane. Is it a stupid idea? Very. Funny, but extremely stupid. However, you could still potentially sell it. What you have to think about is Fluttershy's personality and character. What could happen in this world that would make her determined enough to engage in a battle on that level? It would have to be something huge, world-threatening. An evil on the level of Sauron, something awful and dark and destructive enough to make an otherwise docile, loving and gentle pony take up arms to fight for everything she holds dear. If you just say "I'm going to give Fluttershy a machine gun because it would be cool or funny" the audience probably won't buy it, unless you're writing something deliberately parodic or silly, which I don't get the impression is what you want to write.
Focus on learning characterization first; build characters who have genuine motivations to do the sorts of things you want to have them do, then you can focus on what powers you want to give them.
>>3946>the Glimmer question
If you want to kill her off or get rid of her then by all means do it, as I've said it's your story. My concern is with how you go about it, not whether or not you choose to do it. The mane
issue I wanted to bring to your attention is that Chapter 6 of your story is YUGELY unbalanced and bloated, and you really do not even come close to conveying what you are trying to convey. There's just too much stuff dumped into this one area; between the rhetoric and the fight sequence the length of this one scene, as I've pointed out, extends to about half the length of The Great Gatsby. By the time anyone gets done reading this one part they will have probably forgotten the rest of the story. It's like trying to dump too much water into a funnel at once; it gets backlogged and overflows, and most of the content you're trying to feed the reader ends up getting lost.
As I've said, you'll want to move your story in arcs, and focus on one arc at a time, unless you want to treat a certain arc as a subplot and weave it in and out across multiple arcs. I suggested using Glimmer's story as a subplot, but you could just as easily make a separate arc out of her if you want. The important thing is to just approach it correctly. What you basically do in Ch 6 is dump an entire arc's worth of content into a single scene all at once, and it's overwhelming. Everything contained in your argument sequence is everything you want to say about Glimmer, yes? But you say it all literally. You write out all of your thoughts and arguments against her in essay format and put it into quotations. That's not how you go about doing something like this, you have to show rather than tell.
As I've said, in an action story you have to focus on action. You have to keep things flowing and moving, and build tension appropriately. The way you have it, Silver just randomly bumps into Glimmer one day and they instantly fight. Where's the tension there? There is none; you haven't even introduced Glimmer as a character. You have to set up the conflict before you have the epic fight scene. In particular, if you want to have the reader sympathize with Silver and view Glimmer as an antagonist, you have to first set up both of these characters in those respective roles.
You've said your intention with the scene was to redpill people, but the way you have it written atm it's basically a reverse redpill. You have Silver, who for reasons we've gone over is already unlikable as currently written, used as a stand-in for the anti-communist side of the argument. Then, you have Glimmer, who represents the communist side, and who you don't introduce at all or give the reader any initial reason to dislike. You lay out reasons why you think the reader should dislike her during the argument, but you don't give them time to process the information or form an opinion based on their own impressions of Glimmer's actions. Before the argument even starts, you've already poisoned the well against your own side; the reader has no reason to dislike Glimmer and ample reason to dislike Silver, then you have him basically attack Glimmer without provocation. He makes technically reasonable arguments against Glimmer, but they don't resonate emotionally. Arguments are just words that represent beliefs; if you want to convince someone a character is evil, the way to do it is to show that character being evil. Just having another character call her evil won't convince anyone, particularly if they don't like the character who is trying to convince them.
An example of the kind of thing I'm talking about is pic related. If you look into the real story behind this image, you will learn that the two men being lynched were guilty of rape and murder. There was even a third man, also black, accused in this crime who the crowd let go because he was able to effectively argue his innocence, but you never hear that part. Lynching was a common form of frontier justice at the time, and was used against black and white perpetrators. Although racial tension probably added fuel to the fire in this case, the crime was the significant factor here, not the race of the criminals. The photographer who took this picture intended it to show that justice had been done; however the message that people overwhelmingly took away from it was le ebil raysis whypeepo just up and lynched two poor innocent black boys who dindu nuffin. You have to admit that out of context this photo looks pretty bad. This image was the inspiration for a song by Billie Holiday that wound up drawing a lot of public attention to lynchings and helped turn public opinion against whites and racial segregation. To this day this picture is used out of context in school textbooks as an example of the awful and racist things that white people have done, rather than as the example of justice the photographer intended. You have to be careful how you present things and make sure you communicate what you want to communicate.
A way you could handle Glimglam would be to start the Ponyville arc with her as a side character. You have some scenes describing what Silver is up to, told from Silver's perspective; he comes to Ponyville, he's meeting ponies, he's making friends, etc. etc. Then you switch over to Glimmer, show her interacting with Twilight and the others and being friendly, but show her inner thoughts. Make the audience realize she's just faking being reformed, prove that she's evil. Drive the point home, and show, don't tell. Then, by the time Silver confronts her, they will want to see her exposed for her crimes. Build up to the final confrontation, build tension so people are waiting for it to happen. Remember the analogy of Pinkie Pie and the balloon I went over before? That's what you're going to want to do here. Whether you do it in its own arc or spread it out across multiple arcs, the principle is the same.
Would be a shame if leddit-sama cycle man was self-aware.
That would almost challenge the idea I'm projecting my ledditness... mhmm...
It's almost like being self-aware is antithetical to the mode of thought that faciliatetes projection, oh my lord, self-regulating critique nooo nooo moooo...
I'm leddit incarnate and I loathe myself for it!
-but let's keep pretending that fact is true because I'd like to see how far your delusion can go.
Nigel?1!1 Could you possibly be projecting in your typical sly incapable of fault way [QuESTioN MaRk]
>>3952>image 1>crackshipping fail
What am I? A fucking >phone poster
>>3947>Derpy isn't a unicorn, so giving her powers would be absurd
What are superpowers>"shonen-tier"
You keep using that word.>"no u"
You keep saying that shit.>>3948>projecting his projection
If I'm a bigger redditor than your Vril-Chan friend, why don't I act in the reddit way he does? Why don't I run around with a custom flag, bullshitting people about cycles and rises and falls and other pretty words? Why don't I say generic shit like "We need to do something!" and "We need to master the cycles to predict the rise fall!" to try and get imaginary upvotes on a site without an upvote system??>>3951
Got it, I'll have Glimmer do more evil in her story.
One thing I can't decide on when it comes to Glimmer... She's evil, but she's also a really shit person who does evil for stupid reasons. So should she be "Faking her redemption all along" to see how far she can push Twilight and how hard she can shit-test her, or should she just naturally be this bad at not being evil due to her own awful personality?
>>3954>If I'm a bigger redditor than your Vril-Chan friend, why don't I act in the reddit way he does? Why don't I run around with a custom flag, bullshitting people about cycles and rises and falls and other pretty words? Why don't I say generic shit like "We need to do something!" and "We need to master the cycles to predict the rise fall!" to try and get imaginary upvotes on a site without an upvote system??
My God, that Vril-Chan guy is such a fucking retard! I am with you Nigel, he needs to be nuked from orbit It's the only way to be sure!
. Enough of their leddit-tier faggotry!! Internet WAR NOW!
>>3954>What are superpowers>>"shonen-tier"
No, thats the first time I've personally used it. Are you suggesting its inaccurate?>If I'm a bigger redditor...>If>... why don't I act in the reddit way he does?
For one, you technically have a unique flag in that our other British posters either don't post or use VPNs for fear of being associated with you. For two, there is far more to 'acting reddit' than the behaviors you describe (which he does do, admittedly) of which you are a far more egregious offender. Simply, its disingenuous for you to complain about reddit behavior when you've already distinguished yourself as being this site's most notorious and insufferable redditor.
>>3946>Glimmer needs to go
Because you're a hack and cant get over your autistic hate boner, you don't know how to write characters that are glass canons. >This character has no power level limit
There you go again with your fucktarded projection Nigel. The shit tier OC you created has no limits, as that's been well documented the amount of ass-pulls you continually pull each and every chapter for your favorite Sue. Starlight has strong magic but no pony, not even the Alicorns and not starlight can just use their magic forever with an infinite pool. But you and your retarded OC? 'My self insert has a clone spell that last for YEARS so he can be a master of multiple disciplines'. Is garbage, your ideas are fucking GARBAGE Nigel. >>3947
is right, giving Derpy or any side character super powers for her cutiemark IS exactly what one would expect in a Shonen, my first thought after reading that was how you are a retarded narufag and want more Naruto ponified. Is there anything you can write that isn't blatant plagerism? Jesus christ you are such a shit tier writer. Don't think I didn't see you ripping off Portals blue/orange portal either.>>3757>Silver shows up when the plot's done because he has to bring her back>Silver decided to check up on her, expecting her to have been specifically trying to make this timeline she created worse out of spite.
You are likely a sociopath if you can't even see the fault of what Silver did in Chapter6 and see that it makes Silver irredeemable scum if he just stands by and does nothing except 'checking in' after nearly beating her to death (lets face it the spell he cast to let her feel all the pain but none of the body damage is more sadistic than just murder) and then exiling her from her own dimension.>and perhaps she was just better off as somepony quietly resented by everypony. >The longer he spent around this pony, the more he felt like there was a wall inside his head, keeping his rage away from the controls. Or, to put it another way, it felt like something was dampening his anger. Slowly draining and regulating it.>two Silvers appeared in twin flashes of blue light. “Something’s wrong. Why can’t we get properly angry at this monster?”
You contradict your own ass-pull lore about Starlight being an eldricht 'Outlier' with Nigelight and your own OC. Well fuckwit, if even 'the most perfect grand master oc of all time at everything magical and gay' would be effected by Starlight's presence and 'dampening his anger' then Twilight's own words about every pony resenting her is a croc and doesnt line up as anything other than a gaping plothole. Why would background ponies have a stronger resistance to Starlight's 'outlier' status than others. The answer is they wouldnt and you are just a hack who decided he wanted to have Nigelight reaffirm what You think and have Silver think in the next chapter, and all the ponies afterwords as they give him yet another groupie because thats ALL that EVER HAPPENS in this shitfic. They are not individual characters with differing thoughts and personalities, it's all just one big circlejerk fest
I already know why you do it, because you can only process thinking about yourself with your unrelenting narcassism.
An incompetent and lazy writer who thinks that just by reminding everyone on what we already know when Starlight was a villain in S5 Our Town that the reader should get all emotional and hate her again for dirty gommunism as she just calmly offloads the ins-and-outs of cutiemark removal to your OC like a sociopath in your headcanon dumpsterfire fic. If you knew anything about this character then it would be obvious that this situation would NEVER happen because she doesnt just start talking about her past sins, nor how it was done as if they are just a casual stroll on the beach.
Learn how to write the characters or just stick to your own gay ass OCs Nigel. Not that you are any better that that too, Aquilla is a boring side character that nobody gives a fuck about and someone in the other thread did better than your shit in days, DAYS Nigel.
>>3954>She's evil, but she's also a really shit person who does evil for stupid reasons. So should she be "Faking her redemption all along" to see how far she can push Twilight and how hard she can shit-test her, or should she just naturally be this bad at not being evil due to her own awful personality?
I really can't tell you, because that aspect of it is your story and your lore. I don't hate Glimmer the way you do. My opinions of her up until very recently have been consistent with what seems to be majority opinion in the fandom, in that she is kind of a Poochie type character added to the series to try and revive it at a point where it's already more or less jumped the shark. I don't like the way the writers try to awkwardly wedge her into the Mane 6. Beyond that I didn't really think much about her until I read your story and felt compelled to start pulling it apart and analyzing it.
My visceral disgust at your character's sadistic treatment of her made me want to give her another chance, so I went back and rewatched some episodes she was in. I find that she's not an awful character, my issue is more with the way she's written and handled by the creative staff. As I said I don't like her being wedged into the Mane 6 as she doesn't fit, but I find the episodes that focus on her friendship with Sunburst and Trixie and Maud to be more enjoyable. The moral issues you raise about her past deserve consideration, but ultimately I think her desire to reform herself is genuine and I'm inclined to give her a chance to prove herself. Anyway that's my opinion.
More to the point here is that your own personal hatred of this character tends to interfere with your writing. You don't have to write her sympathetically if you don't want to, and if you want to make her a villain and kill her off or imprison her in another dimension that's ultimately up to you. What you should consider though is that people in your audience are not necessarily going to come into the story sharing your view of her. If you want to convert people to your point of view, you have to start from a somewhat neutral perspective and present the character in a way that the reader will conclude on their own that she's evil. In the current state of your story, you basically have her being brutally tortured for an entire scene, which is frankly going to be a hard sell no matter how you write it, even if you assume you're writing for an audience who has the same view of her that you do. Even if you made Silver more likable in the chapters leading up to this fight, the audience would be unlikely to condone his behavior towards Glimmer.
Remember what I said before, about how you can end up driving people away from your point of view rather than leading them to it if you're not careful? This applies here. Whatever you ultimately decide to do with Glimmer you need to reign in your hateboner enough that you can effectively tell your own story. The last thing you want to end up doing as a writer is making the audience sympathize more with your villain then they do with your protagonist.
If I wanted to write her as a villain at a post-redemption point in the series timeline, I would probably show her as being passive-aggressive. She's all smiles to Twilight and her friends, but she's plotting something quietly, maybe she wants to do another Our Town type thing in Ponyville, who knows. You could probably try to do something similar to the Wedding episode, where Twilight figures out there's something wrong with Cadance but nobody believes her and she keeps getting shit on instead of Cadance/Chrysalis. In any case I would probably make the eventual fight between Silver and Glimmer more evenly matched. Regardless of who the enemy combatant is, nobody is going to sympathize with a character who just holds his enemy in place with magic and tortures her. Give her a chance to fight back, make the battle interesting enough to read, be sure to build up the conflict beforehand so they have a valid reason to fight in the first place, and however you choose to end it, make sure that whatever happens to her is a valid comeuppance for her actions, not just you as the author torturing this character to death because you hate her.
As entertaining as the thread's been, I've gotten really burnt out on Nigel content and real life beckons. Farewell Glim, farewell Swedanon, and farewell King Battlebrit. Twas a wild ride.
Yeah, I can hardly blame you there. Internet drama can suck a lot out of you if you're not careful. Anyway take care, hope we were able to entertain you for a time.
This is more proof that crackshipping is baste and redpilled.
So besides crackshipping being based and sauteed I want you to look carefuly at that post and what it says Glimmernigel. >>3954
Look at the post and look at it closely.>inb4 muh leddit
Seriously J.D, look and listen closely, especially since I had nothing to do with you getting banned from FIMFIC, ha, fucktard. What did you do last, maybe that's why.>>3960
pics of your argument or it never happened nigger
nigel a good boy, he dindu block nobody in dis neigh-bourhood
When enslaving a village of ponies, mentally abusing them using a cult, getting caught, getting stopped, attacking the one who stopped you, losing to her in a fight, stalking her, randomly becoming 3x stronger than her, attacking a foal, repeatedly beating the one who foiled your last evil scheme in multiple fights while ruining the timeline and creating worse world after worse world in which wars are waged and monsters freely destroy Equestria without any heroes left to stop them, not to mention what Glimmer does after being "Redeemed" (forgiven endlessly) are perfectly fine things to do in your book...
...But beating up the pony who did all of that and being mean to her makes you ALL the bad words.
Is your room clean anon?
Everyone is putting fire with gasoline.https://youtu.be/VpdHMaccjw4
Did I break this guy?
No, he was replaced with an Australian shitposter.
This. It happened over a month ago. Flag-fag Vril has been cycle-shitposting.
Hey, I heard the S8 season finale had a child sentenced to a lifetime in hell for getting manipulated by some asshole.
Is that true?
The show's going to let time-breaker Glimmyglam off the hook, while putting a genuine pony kid in hell?
In the meantime, do tell: what rules are being violated?
Hey, anyone here have any good ideas for cool house shit?
I decided that instead of creating Twilight's perfectly ultimate dream house, Silver will instead create what he thinks her perfectly ultimate dream house is, giving her stuff she'll love turned up to 11 along with a fuckton of extra shit.
A fuckhueg treebrary made from a stupidly old oak tree taller than the twin towers AND wider AND bigger on the inside(a space-manipulation spell makes the building appear smaller the further away you get from it, so it doesn't start to seem incredibly and absurdly huge to your eyes until you're within spitting distance of it. To far-off ponies, it's seemingly as small as the other buildings in Ponyville), with more books in the publically-open library than a pony could read in one lifetime, plus a lot of cool shit you'd typically see in really good Skyrim and Fallout player homes, some original stuff, and more.
Silver shall build unto Twilight a castle that is twenty million cubits tall, and forty million cubits wide, and one hundred thousand million cubits tall. The house shall be made entirely out of dicks, and Silver "bend me over the kitchen table" Star will have put all of them inside his rectum in at least one alternate dimension, preferably. The entrance to the Dick Castle will be made out of thousands of smaller dicks, with a door that appears to be made out of wood but it's actually billions and billions of microscopic dicks.
Twilight will arrive at her new dream home wondering why somepony demolished her old house and also wondering if she should call the horse police, because a wild faggot will suddenly appear and start licking the door of her new castle, which is made out of dicks. She will see him and immediately explode, because his faggot levels will be so far off the charts that it will literally destroy her. Now, with Twilight finally out of the way, Silver "put a finger in me I'm just about done" Star can accomplish his original plan, which is to live in the Dick Castle and lick thousands of dicks every day of his life, from now until the end of time.
Nigel you really have ruined
I mean our raid
I mean /mlpol/.
Sorry I get confused sometimes. >^:)
I noticed you elevated verification and message permissions in your discord server, why's that J.G or.. wait.. J.D
Glimbots, this is your mindset. "Tee hee hurr durr dicks!".
>>3976>Nigel attempts to strawman detractors as penis obsessed drones>fails at clicking the correct post number>cites selfhelf as example for bad behavior>secretly showing how self-obsessed you are that you would rather be talking to yourselfNice selfown once again, Jason.
It is in these rare moments of clarity that your subconsciousness screams out desperately for you to come to the rationalization that you are in insufferable cunt.
Did I really click my own comment, instead of this >>3974
over here? Lol oops. That entirely negates my complaints about your childish "Tee hee hurr durr u dont like glimmer so ur a meanie who wants the peeny" mindset, doesn't it?
Your behavior alone negates the tee hee hurr durr. The gaffe however, that was just funny
stop crying glimmernigel. your ugly ass mother raised a faggot. el oh el
Wow, y'all're reaching pretty hard. Careful, you might rip your clothes and expose something. There aren't any old people around, after all.
But seriously, do you kids ever stop and look at yourselves? Look at this dude.>>3979>ur a meenie so it doesnt matter that we're kids who think u luv weenie>>3980
And then there's this guy, who can't even manage a response on the above post's level. It's great that he turned his custom flag off, but he fails to notice that he's posting a pic of a blue-checkmark's attempt to dox someone.
You kids have tried your hardest to go through everything you've got on me. You've went through everything I ever made, and everything I ever said on multiple sites, and you can't find anything that justifies your attitude towards me or the way you have been treating me.
You are liberal communist cowards here to shit the place up.
Unlike Gino DiGiannantonio you dont have a career or pretty much anything to be proud of, Jason. Stop having an such a caustic ego about it and take your pills.
You get points for tenacity, I'll give you that. Truth is - that's apparent to everyone who isn't in denial - we've gone through everything about you and made evident why you are not respected nor well received on this site as well as others. At this point (and I don't speak for the others) I'm entertaining myself watching you spin and maneuver to paint everyone else as being how you evidently are. Now you're resorting to calling us kids (which you've tried before) and its as laughable now as it was the last time. Everything you do to try and deflect, deny, posture, or delude yourself against makes this all the more laughable.
The only way to win this is to stop, which is what makes your unwillingness to do so all the more gratifying. Carry on though, I look forward to what sort of label you'll try next. Enjoy the dopamine!P.S. I seem to recall you were wanting to move to the US with your 'girlfriend', except without a job and without any money. How's that going?
>>3981>You kids have tried your hardest to go through everything you've got on me. You've went through everything I ever made, and everything I ever said on multiple sites, and you can't find anything that justifies your attitude towards me or the way you have been treating me.
At this point it's honestly more that it's just exhausting and not funny anymore. For the record I'm technically not finished going through everything you ever made, I've just gotten bored with the project. Even when it seems like you're starting to listen to advice you're being given you inevitably revert back to the same positions as before and come back here saying the same things as always, without ever bringing anything to the table that shows genuine effort or improvement. Arguing with you about nearly any topic or trying to give you advice is like punching one of those inflatable clown dolls that springs back up and hits you in the face no matter what you do to it. There's only so many times it can be amusing before you just give up and walk away.
>>3984>Even when it seems like you're starting to listen to advice you're being given you inevitably revert back to the same positions as before and come back here saying the same things as always, without ever bringing anything to the table that shows genuine effort or improvement.
Say, isn't that what Hitler was saying the Jews were doing when he argued with them?
Jason may not be an ethnic jew, but he is behaving and talking like one, and has a history of detractors to boast.
at this point the only option left i see for him is peacefully sunsetting him. if necessary by force.
Are you certain? It would make sense if he was,....
Say, Glimglam, if you feel tired of Nigel material. Does that mean that you don't wanna review (or give your thoughts) my work in the other thread?
I would love some input but I understand if you don't got time.
Regardless if you do that or not, you are really good at reviewing and seems to enjoy it. Maybe you should make reviews in the the review thread about other things than Nigel's stuff. Any contribution would be great weather you shit on something or praise it doesn't matter.
This invitation goes to all other Anons on this thread that has posted reviews and anons in general aswell. If you enjoy stories, why not post your thoughts on some? It doesn't even have to be more than a sentence. Even that can result in a larger discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuDjN6KsLdo
Motherfucker, I needed those sides.
Come on Nigel you should totally team up with Chris Chan to make the most epic comic saga on earth.
Perfect just need to add bubble speech for Silver.
I'm sorry, I was meaning to take a look at that, it slipped my mind. I will go through that later and give you my thoughts.
It's funny. I'm just some guy on the internet who likes anime. The darkest and most degenerate secret I have is that I liked FIM when it was good. These "People" have tried their hardest to find dirt on me and they've failed because I am seriously that boring and ordinary.
People who hate that I don't like their favourite pony (and that I made a fanfic they don't like. Oh, the horror!) are currently treating me worse than they're currently treating the enemies of Western Civilization.
It's been a month... Well, they've been shitting this place up for over a year, but this thread has been up for about a month. And they've spent that time throwing Bad Words and Bad Names at me quite liberally (see what I did there?) while hoping that some of the bad things they call me will stick. Calling me a meanie didn't phase me, and neither did saying that I and my OC like penis, so now they're claiming I'm a Jew. Wow, my rich-as-fuck OC has been around for this long, and only now are they thinking of saying that? Truly, the lord has made my enemies... Wait, I already said that. I probably don't need to point out that my OC is an orange and blonde haired blue-eyed rich Unicorn who lives in an alliteratively-named tower that is also named after himself.
Anyone else think it's funny how they howled with laughter when I clicked the wrong post? They sure are easily entertained. It's certainly made my job easier here.
They could be doxing and harassing Antifa members, or hyper-liberal pro-terrorist student-radicalizing professors, or anyone else on the planet. They could be doing something good for the world. And instead, they are here, in this containment thread I set up for them, to keep their Glimspam concentrated in one thread.
Unfortunately, they cry "REEEE NIGEL REEEE!" at anyone with a british flag who posts anywhere on the site. But hey, that's the sacrifice you have to make when you're doing a public service for a site whose mods are so terrified of being called a Battlebrit-sympathizer by the Hclegend army, they'll add bigger green text to my post and call me childish names until they think the leftists are done throwing accusations at them for now.
This sad, pathetic army is desperate for people here to join them in their anti-Battlebrit crusade, and they are desperate for people here to not look at why they want this anti-Battlebrit crusade to happen.
You know what else is sad? I can't think of anything left for these invaders to say that'll expose these invaders as exactly that: Invaders. Terrorists, trying to intimidate me. They certainly succeeded in intimidating the site's mods for a few posts.
To be honest, I sometimes wonder if there's any hope left for western civilization when people seem so unable to see beyond the obvious. I also wonder if there's any hope left for this barely-used site. I've been here since April Fool's, and I appreciated the ban on posting Glimmer "As a triggering agent" (If only mods saw that Glimmer was not the problem or what needed to be banned, her small, loud, whiny radicalized fanbase was) but I'm starting to lose confidence in this place. After all, if mods aren't going to protect users of the site and the site in general from (((outside influences))) from reddit, what are they good for?
>inb4 our beloved mods choose radicalized leftist redditors and invaders over a redpilled content creator to placate the 3-5 idiots in Hclegend's army
>>3998>this containment thread I set up for them, to keep their Glimspam concentrated in one thread
>"Wait, did you just say you want this site's mods to protect you from these idiots?"
No, I'm stalling these idiots while getting them to post using every IP they have. I want the site's mods to protect the site as a whole from these idiots by permabanning them.
>>3998>>4000>"inb4 our beloved mods choose radicalized leftist redditors and invaders over a redpilled content creator to placate the 3-5 idiots in Hclegend's army"Absolutely brilliant.
This is one reaction image I thought I'd never get a chance to use.
- Nigel's Rick & Morty threadhttps://mlpol.net/qa/res/2631.html
- Nigel's Glimposting thread (#1)https://mlpol.net/qa/res/3266.html
- Nigel's Glimposting thread (#2)https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/165646.html
- Nigel's shit
OC Promotion thread (#1)https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/166259.html
- Nigel's shit
OC Promotion thread (#2)
For those not aware, Nigel is a faggot and has been for a very long time.>Nigel is a faggot - Atlas, Tea Time With Atlas, July 2017>I declare that Nigel is a faggot - Atlas, August 2018
He's been summarily banned and/or kicked from 4chan, Mlpol Discord, and has received temporary bans on FiM Fic and here (the latter of which he flagrantly evaded to the point that mods stopped banning him because there was no point).
He maintains that all criticism of him is based on a Glimmernigger conspiracy that began on Reddit, invaded and ruined /mlp/, and followed him to and has infected the Discord, this site and its moderators.
He has dutifully earned the comparison of "SJW" and "Jew" by engaging in the same behavior and tactics, the former of which being falsely perceiving behaviors in others that he actively practices, and the latter of which due to his extreme distancing and deflections which border on Hitler's description of Jews in Mein Kampf. Also like the Jews, he refuses to accept, acknowledge, or admit that his behavior has anything to do with his treatment at large and instead transfers the blame onto everyone else.
He does not engage in threads that involve anything other than himself or his views which he happily and forcefully shoves in the board's face, bumping his own threads when ignored and worse when he isn't.
The above list of links is not exhaustive, and a quick review of his writing style will make him easily distinguishable on the board, which I encourage anons who are unfamiliar to
run from with all haste
peruse at their leisure and draw their own conclusions.
P.S. >Pic related
is an OC Plush from a Deviant artist named Cinnamon Stich, which he has been making since early 2016.
Mods plz don't ban me for organising this raid against Nigel and following him site to site because he tryed to shim sham the glim glam
John Elway confirmed Glimmernigger.
so does this mean Glimmer gets pardoned
I don't know about that, but it does suggest that Glimmer may be an honorary Denver Bronco. She's certainly more Football than Nigel
The gift that keeps on giving
>>4010>>4011>>4009eternally Blown the fuck out.
Prepare for ebin Nigel rebuttal rant decrying this organized mass harassment.
also Skyrim belongs to the Nords.
Christ, y'all're desperate. Nice doll, though. Can I get one of those?>>4004>He's been summarily banned and/or kicked from 4chan, Mlpol Discord, and has received temporary bans on FiM Fic and here (the latter of which he flagrantly evaded to the point that mods stopped banning him because there was no point).>"Oy vey, he's been banned from like 4 places, including one of our five Discords! So he must be bad!"
Oh no, how terrible. I've been banned from very liberal places by liberals, and I've been banned from one of the unofficial MLPOL discords by discord"Friends" thanks to the discord"Friend" army. The thing is, I haven't been banned from any of the Pokemon, naruto, BNHA, or general anime forums I've visited in my lifetime. I'm not banned from the Crusader Kings forum. I'm not banned from Serebii. I'm not banned from any groups on DeviantArt. The places I've been banned from in my lifetime make up such a tiny minority of the groups I've been in, but because these groups and sites make up your whole world, they seem like a big deal to you.
Don't worry, kids. When you get older, you'll probably develop a sense of perspective.>He maintains that all criticism of him is based on a Glimmernigger conspiracy that began on Reddit, invaded and ruined /mlp/, and followed him to and has infected the Discord, this site and its moderators.>"He finks our harassment crusade against him is a conspiracy feory! Dunt listen to him, he finks white genocide- I mean the other conspiracy feory targeting him is real!"
It's sad, for you, that in this thread and the other one, the people who've actually critiqued my work instead of getting #triggered by it... Well, I've actually listened to what they had to say, and we had nice conversations. One of them even convinced me to nerf my OC and make him less overhwelmingly powerful, which shoots a pretty big hole in your "He is overly-sensitive and obsessed with his own OC!" slander. The thing is, while those conversations were going on, you and you're "You are a meanie who loves the peeny! You are literally hitler, you are a- Wait shit, people here like Hitler. Um... You are a jew, you are all the E-celebs people here don't like, especially Sargon, you are Nigel from 4chan even though that's a guy famous for hating all of MLP not just the shit episodes, and you are CWC!" were irrelevant. You want to paint your behavior and your reaction to me and my work as my responsibility, because you still, even after over a year, can not argue against one post I made about your waifu being shit.
I get that you want to form tenuous and cosmetic connections between me and assorted people this target audience doesn't like, to make up for your inability to make solid arguments against me, my points, and my work, but you kids have acted like butthurt SJWs and Antifa members in this thread, and others.
I get that you want me to paint me as the "WORST! MAN! ALIVE!" because I don't like your waifu, but it's gone on for over a year now. You've spent weeks going over everything you've got on me with a fine-toothed comb, and you were so starved for objectionable content, you had to claim an art piece specifically titled something like "Johnny Protagon-est" was a Johnny Test OC.
Surely, you have better things to do, right? No? Well, can you get better things to do? Things that might help the site, western civilization, or both?>He has dutifully earned the comparison of "SJW" and "Jew" by engaging in the same behavior and tactics, the former of which being falsely perceiving behaviors in others that he actively practices, and the latter of which due to his extreme distancing and deflections which border on Hitler's description of Jews in Mein Kampf. Also like the Jews, he refuses to accept, acknowledge, or admit that his behavior has anything to do with his treatment at large and instead transfers the blame onto everyone else.
Huh. Leftists really do always project and never learn, huh? By the way, you cheapen these terms by using them as general "BadThoughtcriminalMeanie" words, Liberal. Stop making your true allegiance so obvious. It makes this even sadder and even more boring.>He does not engage in threads that involve anything other than himself or his views which he happily and forcefully shoves in the board's face, bumping his own threads when ignored and worse when he isn't.
Objectively untrue, and that should be pretty obvious, considering I'm seemingly the only british man on this website and I've been here since April Fool's.
There's something about this that I find pretty funny.
When I made a pretty big rant about the stupidity that was Itachi Uchiha, nobody from the Naruto fandom reacted in the way you did when I critiqued your favourite pony. Naruto fans are more mature than you.
When I made a longer rant about the bullshit that is Toxapex, no Pokemon fans treated me the way you do. Pokemon fans are more mature than you.
When I made an even longer rant about everything shit about Bethesda's Fallout, no Bethesda fanboy treated me the way you do. Bethesda Fanboys are more mature than you.
When I made an honestly too-long rant about all the dumb shit in Harry Potter, nobody from the Harry Potter fandom treated me the way you do. Good job making me say this, but... Harry Potter fans are more mature than you.
You started this harassment campaign against me over a year ago because I stopped a raid you were performing on this site. A few of your raid's members already hated me because I don't like your waifu.
Christian Weston Chandler never did anything like this to any of the people who criticized his favourite fictional characters, as far as I'm aware.
Christian Weston Chandler is more mature than you, and the fact that I'm saying this is on you.
Almost as though summoned
>>4014>we attack his character>he debunks us>better try and joke about the fact that he showed up, even though we've been hounding him in every other thread he's shown up in on-site for at least the last 3 weeks!
Leftists truly are hypocrites, aren't they?
>acts like a leftist for over a year
>Leftists truly are hypocrites, aren't they?
Nigel would you allow a man who is definitely not Gene Shalit to lick your butthole?
Zaldo is in fact Glimmernigel
Does that mean he won't have access to a shot gun?
lets hope hes quick with the spork
What the rebels like to forget, is that the Empire is what's keeping the Dominion out of Skyrim.
>>4021>Keeping the Dominion out of Skyrim>No, don't worry about all those Thalmor agents running around slaughtering Talos worshippers as they please
Legionfags are dumb, you're dumb.
>>4022>Legionfags are dumb>"Hey, I know, let's kill our High King, throw our province into chaos, force the empire to enforce the White-Gold Concordat that never really was enforced before, and weaken both Skyrim and the Empire to make it easy for the Dominion to simply run over everyone. That will show those pesky elves that didn't use to be here what for!"
The only reason Skyrim and the Empire at this point aren't being crushed by Dominion armies is that the Redguard sandniggers are tough sonsabitches and are giving the Dominion hell.
The Empire was letting the elves enforce it 20 years before the events of the game. Don't forget, they tried to offer Ulfric and his forces free worship of Talos in exchange for retaking the reach, then the elves found out and the Empire sold them out. High King Torygg, and the other Jarls, were bought out by the dominion with the signing of the concordat as evidenced by Provintus literally saying "The chests of gold didn't hurt either" in reference to the concordat being enforced amongst the imperial provinces. The Empire doesn't even have absolute control of its military, Tullius and Rikke both slip up and all but state that they consider the dominion the real enemy. Continuing to support the Empire and its disastrous surrender in a conflict they were winning simply because the imperial city got sacked is tantamount to surrendering to the British because they burned the White House to the ground. Or capitulating to Sharia law because the muslims will keep performing acts of terror if you don't. Or claiming that Israel is our greatest ally.
What's surprising is that the literal niggers of the setting know this while the Nords are busy trying to become like Sweden. The dominion isn't even as great a threat as everyone makes them out to be. They're on rocky terms with the wood elves, the Khajiit are on the verge of open revolt and even a good chunk of their own people on the Summerset Isles are getting sick of their shit. The elder council wanted the emperor assassinated for fuck's sake, I'll give you three guesses why and the first two don't count.
>>4024>the imperial city got sackedAdmittedly, I would probably surrender, too, if the only city I had that was worth a damn got sacked YET FUCKING AGAIN.TBH, the only reason I even support the empire is because I enjoy Roman A E S T H E T I C S and because Ulfric is a fucking retard. That and I also like playing as a battlemage. And Imperials are top-tier battlemages.
Which side SHOULD the Dragonborn join in Skyrim, morally speaking?
>>4026You see this >>175505 Nigel? THIS is Lee Goldson, aka Barneyfag. No one thinks you are him or that he is you. His autism is on a completely different level to yours, and trying to compare yourself to him is an insult to his hard-earned respect. In tonight's infiltration of 4chan, which you seemed to be a party to, you can clearly see him operating. Quit acting like you don't know, its an embarrassment to yourself and this board which you cling to so desperately. If you'd stop acting like you're full of shit, we'll ALL be better off.
Please carry on with your Skyrim discussion.
>>4027>boldfacing the reply made all of the replied post's lettering boldfaced in the thumbnail
Oh, it is my favourite thing when liberals openly claim that "nobody" is doing what they have been doing for the entire conversation.
Because it's funny how bad they are at lying.
This might sound odd, but /mlpol/?
I'm going to need you to spam this thread with horse pussy.
I want to see if it will drive these trolls out.
You heard him, this is now a horsepussy thread
Wow, Nigel. Just look at all the anons rushing to your defense. Really backs up your claim that you're just an innocent victim being trolled by hostile invaders.>>4032
Horsepussy is always appreciated, but in this case you should really check the flag.
bumping with horsepussy as requested
These fucking mentally ill detractors are using illegal underhanded toxic memes to destroy my youtube channel, my 10 year legacy. See, this is what happens when i take an offhands approach, I come back from the toilet to release my gouty bladder and the thread turns immediately into a toxic toilet jew slime pit. Ive had enough. I am putting my foot down!
I am just going to BAN. @Mods, Ban any semblance of laughter in the chat
. And now you can sit the whole day outside of streamchat and i guarantee we wont have any fucking drama. Thats what you get for stirring the pot.
Channel Trailer for Nigels new Podcast.
kek nice.>>4026 >>4030
Stop bumping your own threadm OP if you aren't even going to keep yourself on the topic of the thread.
I was thinking of doing a gag where Derpy Hooves finds the launched ball of Mary Sueness, and she lives a wonderfully lucky life from then on. But because she's so kind, she doesn't maliciously warp the world around her, it only happens subconsciously and in ways that make life great for everypony.
I was thinking of doing a gag where Derpy Hooves finds the launched ball of Mary Sueness, and she lives a wonderfully lucky life from then on. But because she's so kind, she doesn't maliciously warp the world around her, it only happens subconsciously and in ways that make life great for everypony.
I was thinking of making Discord want to throw Silver into bullshit weaboo fightan anime bullshit by summoning monsters, something Silver objects to when it's done in Ponyville, a place he doesn't want attacked by giant monsters. But halfway through the episode Silver said "I'll fight double the monsters if you make me a second Ponyville in the middle of nowhere for the fights to take place in" and the episode's plot stopped.
Is this how the writers feel when they get to a "Someone has to be an idiot here for the plot to go normally" moment?